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mircea_popescu: if you imagine you'll have orlov build you a ship out of a well chosen half walnut that'll perform better in "freakish weather" than a tanker you really should move on to apologetics, what can i say!
BingoBoingo: Or from Orlol's father outlet https://www.rt.com/usa/354538-missouri-candidate-machine-gun-ad/
asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/08/furious-sheep.html << orlol suggests vote-by-rng.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-26 18:33 asciilifeform: i thought orlov was stretching the truth, but apparently not - the new Official Narrative is 'trump is ru agent'
asciilifeform: i thought orlov was stretching the truth, but apparently not - the new Official Narrative is 'trump is ru agent' ☟︎
BingoBoingo: AHA, but Orlov makes a point of NOT using that.
BingoBoingo: Anyways Orlov's plumbing problem is that when making the boat it should have been a primary rather than secondary consideration. Also wtf, hoses? Rigid copper seems like it would be much better for that application if boar design allowed for sanely routing pipes.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:54 phf: trinque: it's techno nomad, it's a thing. microship guy doesn't really try to solve same problem as orlol, it's all different people with personal interests and agendas that don't necessarily compose into a single stereotype
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform asking "What is the minimal money necessary" is like asking "what is the minimum current draw of useful appliance". it depends neh ? for the money orlov already spent on his pretense (boat, authorship, whatever), egyptian native could have lived entire life happily in the circumstance of "the company of other bipeds being wholly SELECTABLE".
mircea_popescu: actually, further - i think that attempts to solve it on those lines will cost the attempter his life and sanity for no benefit. in other words - i say orlov is a scammer.
mircea_popescu: i don't think trying to formulate it is madness ; i do think that the orlov formulation is ridiculous at best.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 15:44 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's 'sailboat' is a racing yacht. orlov's is a (mostly) wind-powered antisocial survival capsule.
asciilifeform: actually orlov did at one point say that he would be happy to live in a land truck but it is too easily accessible by enemies
phf: even orlol made a point a few times that he boats not because end of world, but because it's in his nomadic nature. that's distinctly not what asciilifeform is trying to do
asciilifeform: it is a qualitative jump, in cost AND repairability, and i have nfi why orlov ignored it.
phf: trinque: it's techno nomad, it's a thing. microship guy doesn't really try to solve same problem as orlol, it's all different people with personal interests and agendas that don't necessarily compose into a single stereotype ☟︎
phf: nah, there was that other guy who built a computerized nomadic boat house (i think he started with a computerized recumbent bike in the 80s) and unlike orlol he actually documented his process very extensively
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's 'sailboat' is a racing yacht. orlov's is a (mostly) wind-powered antisocial survival capsule. ☟︎
asciilifeform: imho orlov is making a mistake though - he ought to be designing a submarine.
asciilifeform: an orlovian boat is a machine strictly smaller than a refrigerator truck.
asciilifeform: from past orlov&boat threads, iirc mircea_popescu sailed titanic diesels.
asciilifeform: 'quidnon' is orlov's crackpot design, it will, he wrote, be published as plans on www, and sold as diy kit.
asciilifeform: not houses for orlov.
mircea_popescu never likes the results, but perseveres reading orlov linked material.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: orlov has an interesting pill for mircea_popescu's 'if yer boat has a hole, you gotta drydock it and now you're out $maxint' >> http://quidnon.blogspot.com/2016/07/on-women-boats-and-plumbing.html
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: orlov.
phf: asciilifeform: you were right, four quarters is a large shtf project, using hippie and music festivals to find their operations. i can see why orlol would like it
a111: Logged on 2014-07-16 19:04 mircea_popescu: "Suppose you have a company that sets out to make a widget. Let's call it Company A. Its founders are all engineers, of an uncompromising sort, and the widget they design and manufacture is of tremendous longevity, durability and overall quality." << hey check out orlov.
asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2010/02/industrys-parting-gifts.html << classic orlol on subj
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: orlov. he cheats with diesel motor when in port.
asciilifeform: tell it to orlov.
asciilifeform: ice could only survive through graft...' << from orlol,
asciilifeform: l0l orlov goes to that one iirc.
asciilifeform: in other newz, an orlol, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/05/a-russian-warning.html
asciilifeform: recall orlov's hypothesis re how american-fat will kill the victim if he begins to burn it ?
asciilifeform: the perennial favourite example (as seen in, e.g., orlov, and elsewhere) is bacteria in agar
mircea_popescu: oh ers was just begging generically, at the same time orlov needed new engine
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: under discussion was orlov's gambit of seagoing-thing-as-escape-from-rent
asciilifeform: iirc orlov had one
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ever consider doind the orlov thing and moving to one ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: unrelatedly, i found out that orlov told the truth, and it really does cost only a few hundy usd/mo. to part a 30 ft. boat (on east coast usa at least)
mircea_popescu: people new to the topic of how the democratic cancer spreads may just as well read orlov's last bit linked by alf, or any other of ten billion treatises on the topic.
asciilifeform: related orlol: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-color-counterrevolution-cometh.html
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform inasmuch as he steal speaks of "its money", orlov doesn't actually get the turkey dollars thing. he earnestly thinks that there is ONE kind of usdollar, and PART of that one is "wasted". whereas the situation in the field is that there's two kinds, ands the bezzle part can only be bezzled with.
funkenstein_: i came across some light reading which might be enjoyed by Orlovians http://www.feasta.org/2012/06/17/trade-off-financial-system-supply-chain-cross-contagion-a-study-in-global-systemic-collapse/
asciilifeform: which is that photovoltaic and wind are preparations for what orlov called 'boutique economy'
mircea_popescu: he is saying what orlov is saying, and what yarvin is saying, and what generally the castrated son of a stupid anglo whore is always fucking saying
asciilifeform: and hey also orlov.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe if we ping Herr Orlov enough it will be done?
mod6: i had to laugh at that last orlov
mitch_callahan: is this Dmitry Orlov ?
pete_dushenski: ;;google site:trilema.com orlov
pete_dushenski: !s orlov
mitch_callahan: sorry I don't know Orlov.
pete_dushenski: sort of an orlov character, isn't he ?
assbot: Logged on 02-12-2015 21:15:47; asciilifeform: unless you're of the mircea_popescu or orlov school of thought, in which case better gifts include horse and kalash
asciilifeform: unless you're of the mircea_popescu or orlov school of thought, in which case better gifts include horse and kalash ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, the symmetry with orlov is oddly lolz.
asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/11/supporting-evidence.html << spiffy orlol
asciilifeform: aha, as in that orlol
jurov: because orlov says so?
asciilifeform: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/11/an-exit-strategy-for-traitors.html << orlol (guest article)
ascii_field: anyway in usa it is a very simple matter, as described by herr orlov: near-everybody there is 2 or 3 missed paycheques away from hobo-dom.
mircea_popescu: sure. like orlov, locklin and eric what's his face. they all live.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: kunstler is, one of, orlov's mega-favourites. but i was never able to stomach his output.
asciilifeform: as described by orlov, even; the reason why the car is sold last of all is that without it, no money.
ascii_field: snore. orlovian deer/hunter symbiosis.
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 22:33:16; mircea_popescu: ascii_field: they happily send their sons to army so they can 'die for a fat bitch's right to marry her dog' << wow. that, right there, is more valuable to orlov's employer than orlov's entire body of work to date. mebbe you get job offers nao.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field: they happily send their sons to army so they can 'die for a fat bitch's right to marry her dog' << wow. that, right there, is more valuable to orlov's employer than orlov's entire body of work to date. mebbe you get job offers nao. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 05:33:47; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> orlov fellates the boston harvaprinceyaleton liberast-wing-usg orthodoxy <<< and moscow does not ? puhleaze.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> orlov fellates the boston harvaprinceyaleton liberast-wing-usg orthodoxy <<< and moscow does not ? puhleaze. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the climategate thing is why i do not credit mircea_popescu's hypothesis re: orlov being a minion of moscow. orlov fellates the boston harvaprinceyaleton liberast-wing-usg orthodoxy
asciilifeform: btw that was orlov's lowest point, imho
asciilifeform: 'Now I seriously think of moving to Argentina. This nation already survived the horrific default of 2001, military dictatorship, deindustrialization and various other calamities, and came through it all with its dignity intact. They know how to be poor but happy (unlike Russians) and without neuroses (unlike Americans)—I saw this with my own eyes.' (guest orlolz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/08/corn-madness-revisited.h
ascii_field: ask orlov, l0l
mircea_popescu: cuz i might want to be able to distinguish orwell from orlov
mircea_popescu: check it out thestringpuller you got better score than orlov.
ascii_field: i must have some 'css' filter in my skull that makes orlov make sense
mircea_popescu: i guess you'll have to provide offsets with your orlov links nao
ascii_field is not orlov and isn't paid by ru; hell, they won't even give him a passport
ascii_field: this is not ~strictly~ necessary - a professional exterminator (paid, as in orlov) can do his thing without emotion
asciilifeform: ^ orlov's 'you will not be told when collapse has happened, only when it has happened to ~you~'
mircea_popescu: and it is why i pointed out orlov's failure in the elephant story.
ascii_field: in all fairness, orlov never advocated 'let's all you plankton move to x and colonize'
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-08-2015#1236094 << orlov devoted a whole chapter to this, for english readers ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 15:46:48; mircea_popescu: "But a boxing audience is always disgusting, and the behaviour of the women, in particular, is such that the army, I believe, does not allow them to attend its contests." lmao orlov and his middle class sentimentalities.
mircea_popescu: "But a boxing audience is always disgusting, and the behaviour of the women, in particular, is such that the army, I believe, does not allow them to attend its contests." lmao orlov and his middle class sentimentalities. ☟︎
phf: (there's a 90s russian commedy, дмб, about a bunch of hapless army conscripts. at some point they are supposed to provide entertainment for generals, in some total buttfuck nowhere location. one of the activities is pig hunting, they release a pig, and the general goes after it. so of course the pig gets eaten by one of the hungry conscripts, and he has to pretend to be a pig running through fields. i can't help but think about orlov's boomer
phf: i started reading orlov with his piece about "everyone should get russian passport and move syberia to survive orks and global warming", i thought that maybe he was one of those slightly misguided older russian expats, so i sent him an email in russian with the general idea of, what about existing power structures there, it's not like moving to alaska, there's not going to be a shortage of local generals interested in hunting out of shape expats
mircea_popescu: but hey, orlov doesn't know about india. he got a hammer an' he's a builder.
asciilifeform: phf: orlov is obsessed with the subject of 'noble orcs', where it is gypsy, or eskimo, or whoever hasn't invented water closet yet
phf: that orlov quote is questionable, with the same message as his other writing, i.e. "orks are cooler then you" where you is a u.s. office worker. i grew up in intelligentsia family and when i started getting into fights i was sent to sambo. i also saw fights involving chechen boys, including "деревня на деревню" kind, and in none of those were russian boys holding back. what is this
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1229957 << orlov's mafia development stage. this is available ~right now~ just as in 1880 cosa nostra. BUT they use an ethnic filter to keep out usg. (the only filter known to work semi-reliably, sadly) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, i have to strike the foregoing. i never challenged orlov.
mircea_popescu: not orlov is it
mircea_popescu: ascii_field if you recall, i challenged orlov and he came out with "I am a robot doing the above".
mircea_popescu: imo the entire menagerie, orlov, yarvin, whoi have you are simply doing this by hand
asciilifeform: see also orlov re: english being a technical pidgin
ascii_field: if you are only concerned with the collapse, orlov's 'post-soviet lessons' is notbad
asciilifeform: hah. ~now~ has a 'submitted by orlov'