jurov: that kind of bug one wonders how the whole thing worked at all
mats: is it because multiple customers put orders in at the same time?
jurov: and at the same price
jurov: and trade between themselves :)
mats: i guess it worked because i was the only one with any volume for the longest time
jurov: not just that, mpex added a misfeature of randomly rejecting orders
jurov: sometime during the recent lull
mats: well, if its any consolation, there's a btc for your troubles when coinbr is up, i know you do a lot of pro bono work around here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00072471 = 7.6457 BTC [-]
shinohai: One day when I actually have btc I need someone to show me the ropes on coinbr
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 00:33:21; Bingo_VACAY: Juriv seriously consider raising coinbr fees
jurov: monthly/withdrawal fees already cause enough friction, pple made themselves heard
jurov: and the % .. maaybe someday
☟︎ mircea_popescu: <shinohai> What kind of poppycock is that? Won't hire me if I have been negative online. << it's not hiring as much as living wage layer two. do you want to be like the niggers, getting free pills and welfare checks ? that's living wage layer zero. move to the ghetto. are you instead happy with the minimum wage, tax rebates, etc bullshit ? that's layer one, move to suburbia.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: however if you want the best of the best cafeteria food - that's level two! be positive online, move to san francisco!
mircea_popescu: hiring in the traditional sense has no bearing on all this. it's "hiring", as in, usg "hires" you to lap up the welfare faucet drippings.
mircea_popescu: on the plus side, you won't have any actual work to do, that sort where you could encounter and might have to overcome your own stupidity and general human limitations.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: on the minus side, if you can do it for a year and not want to kill yourself every night, you'll know you're dumb. not even "not smart". outright dumb.
shinohai: Ironically mircea_popescu, the hashbang guys wanted me to come to San Fran and work lol
shinohai: I'd last about a week before I burnt the place down.
mircea_popescu: but to be fair : i also won't hire them if they've been stupid online.
shinohai: Or mybe I could sustain another workplace injury nd double my income.
mircea_popescu: either don't be stupid, if you can, or if you can't, then don't be negative. sorcerers in the celestial city. zombies in the zombie horde.
☟︎ shinohai: No one wants to be around someone that always projects negativity. But isn't there something to be said for honesty?
☟︎ shinohai: If someone tells me my product sucks, and it genuinely sucks, perhaps I can use that feedback to not suck.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00073841 = 17.4265 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: that's not even the main point. the main point is that they abhor hierarchy, and want the world to be flat.
mircea_popescu: negative reinforcement is what your superiors do, and they can't have any.
mircea_popescu: so you know, if his product sucks tell him in such a way that it doesn't come out you're better than him, and he won't think you were "being negative"
mircea_popescu: all this derpage to assuage the fears and terrors of the 14yo mind already... it's kinda sad.
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:13:24; jurov: and the % .. maaybe someday
pete_dushenski: dunno where BingoBoingo gets the idea that he's jurov's business development advisor now
shinohai: I may be totally wrong, but I think it is foolhardy *not* to seek advice and varied viewpoints.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: sure, but i didn't see jurov seeking advice here. maybe i missed this in the logs ?
pete_dushenski: the equivalent being jurov telling qntra to put up a paywall because "make more skrillz!"
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pete_dushenski: speaking of qntra, it's coming up on its first bday, neh ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00072881 = 10.422 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: "Eugenie Bouchard has pulled out of the US Open with a concussion. TSN has learned that Bouchard sustained the injury on Friday night when she tripped while walking from the training room to room where the ice bath is located." << go canada ;/
shinohai: Qntra ... Powered by the tears of reddit (tm)
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:27:29; mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.00541072 * 15000
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00072881 = 5.539 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29155 @ 0.00073723 = 21.4939 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32000 @ 0.00073866 = 23.6371 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:18:13; anton_osika: So long. Thanks for the voice until I can become friends with phunctor.
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:22:10; mats: in fact i think alf does?
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:22:48; pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: unless you already have dark market connex, you might have to wait for mircea_popescu/trinque's new buy/sell board ;)
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:31:46; mircea_popescu: incidentally /me hates that trait more than any other.
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:31:55; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform also, 'order id 22472' would indicate that you have more available btc than rothschilds. who's poor now ? (and yes, i understand that no one will ever actually offer you 'taig' via -otc)
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 23:07:59; mircea_popescu: i dunno. oddly the stan brood never talks.
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 23:46:21; mircea_popescu: ml also interesting for all the misdirection and denial work Peter Gutmann pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz sinks into the matter.
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 23:56:11; assbot: Hackers spent at least a year spying on Mozilla to discover Firefox security holes – and exploit them • The Register ... (
http://bit.ly/1iqD4HV )
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:33:26; mircea_popescu: on the plus side, you won't have any actual work to do, that sort where you could encounter and might have to overcome your own stupidity and general human limitations.
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:41:34; mircea_popescu: either don't be stupid, if you can, or if you can't, then don't be negative. sorcerers in the celestial city. zombies in the zombie horde.
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:45:54; shinohai: No one wants to be around someone that always projects negativity. But isn't there something to be said for honesty?
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16825 @ 0.00072652 = 12.2237 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: re that "blame shift" : i wouldn't even say it's blame shift or anything. pure "us vs them" mentality. obama bombs some schools ? YAY! schools organise and shoot some us terrorists ? BOO!!1
mircea_popescu: and ftr it's perfectly sound. who exactly do you suppose will get quarter for "having been a very competent usg agent" ?
mats: lol, front page: white, azn, brown child
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4725 @ 0.00072985 = 3.4485 BTC [+]
mats: i looked at em, gaudy stuff
mircea_popescu: i'm not entirely certain what exactly strikes your fancy so, asciilifeform
zveda: mircea_popescu: thanks
mats: reminds me of bath stall for old folks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, you ever been on the west coast ?
mircea_popescu: well there certainly exist better museums of "sleep ad libitum" all through california.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00073432 = 6.6089 BTC [+] {5}
mircea_popescu: but srsly, east coast is famous for crampy, shitty quarters.
mircea_popescu: of more genuine historical interest, ;;google Captain George Flavel House
mircea_popescu: isn't "Found extra rooms in house" kinda like "found extra procedures in code" ?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, my place in timisoara was ~5k sqft on two levels.
trinque: asciilifeform: you do live in the worst possible part of the US
trinque: move to Houston, do math for an oil company
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00073894 = 8.7564 BTC [+]
trinque: the beltway is *not* all there is
trinque: to that I have two responses
trinque: asciilifeform: I was telling mr ben_vulp` earlier I'd love to get you some if I'm ever able
trinque: acid's special; not the least bit a matter of getting intoxicated in the usual sense
trinque: I see oil and a few other things as the few remaining inputs on the US "economy
trinque: ah shit man, I have meatwot friends working for these oil companies
trinque: they pillage and they live well.
trinque: or another meatwot friend working for a tradebot company
trinque: gets his dick sucked the rest of the time!
mats: so lets get down to it, asciilifeform
mats: how many hours of actual work do you do per week
mats: the sort you abhor, sure, include driving
mats: thats ten hours a week right?
trinque: not every act of my career is a manifestation of my principles
trinque: sometimes I'm just trying to get paid
trinque: stick another y on that, I guess
trinque reminisces briefly about the persian chick he dated
mats: 20 hours of driving? really?
trinque: probably most beautiful women on earth.
trinque: houston traffic gets crazy
mats: i dunno how your mental formula works, but i'd certainly pay to live closer
trinque: thing is, I know guys that just chose to be the smartest guy at a truly asinine startup
trinque: they make great money, they do whatever they please in their free time
trinque: I run a business, but I have no quarrel with those that just maximize their own path through the whole retarded mess./
trinque: I started my business by neglecting other retarded pursuits and building the other thing in spare time.
trinque: oh asciilifeform, DC and surrounding sucks so much.
trinque: surely you understand that the sludge flows out from exactly there?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00073894 = 6.0593 BTC [+]
trinque: yeah, but you just don't run into them.
trinque: everyone of consequence in TX hates the federal government.
trinque: deeply, and as a matter of principle
trinque: you just feel that way, and wait for the other thing to fail.
trinque: how many years do you think the federal govt has left?
trinque: the gov of texas talked openly about secession throughout his term.
trinque: they will destroy the currency and fail
mats: it becomes 2x per sqm to get so much as 30mins from work?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9820 @ 0.00073894 = 7.2564 BTC [+]
mats: and you cannot rent rooms either i suppose?
mircea_popescu: makes the collegiate campus a winner. especially at arizona state.
mats: i live alone atm. moved recently. but for most of non-barracks, non-univ adulthood i shared quarters with 2-4 other people
mats: and i expect to do so again in a year or so
mats: i don't abhor it like you do, will prob do it willingly well into late 20s
mats: sharing toilet with four others does suck, though. but small price to pay to hold onto more wages
mircea_popescu: i expect this will be the permanent normal mode of living from noiw on anyway.
mircea_popescu: but that's all gone now. people aren't willing to kill each other so they'll get packed.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: nah. see problem there wasd, they destroyed more stuff than killed people.
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:00:35; mircea_popescu: in the 50s a bank CLERK lived in roughly what alf thinks palatial.
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 06:58:21; Belxjander: using AmigaOS 4.1Final on my desktop myself... definitely niche..
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 02:31:58; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu:
http://imgur.com/a/GIDeo << i went there today. and this is how i imagine your old house looks like.
pete_dushenski: also of rented apartement in jewish quarter in riga, which had the most beautiful interior staircase with the most divinely baroque wrought iron handrails.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00073787 = 11.7321 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: i'd already been to most of the rest of europe, so baltic was somewhere new
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00073737 = 8.5904 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> unsurprising that scum wipes his arse with the money. << that's one angle, and valid. the other angle, perhaps equally valid, is that prisoner kept in prison since birth has imagination of life outside, is let out, in a world much akin the prison inside, goes berserk.
Vexual cadillac hands, unknowingly
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:55:15; asciilifeform: i suspect that the day is not far when lotteries turn into 'lifetime walmart gift card' instead of usd
pete_dushenski: "Billiards Suite • $4,000/night • sleeps 2 • Our most booked suite! This suite includes exclusive use of the billiards room for 8 hours, plus an adjoining hotel room. This is the most asked for suite in The Mansion for events, as you can sleep (if you choose) or play billiards on a $150,000 classic billiards table." << via o mansion's absurdly bad www
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12696 @ 0.00072959 = 9.2629 BTC [-]
assbot: BitBet - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 14,000 before 18th September :: 4.39 B (9%) on Yes, 46.99 B (91%) on No | closing in 18 hours 18 minutes | weight: 3`215 (100`000 to 1) ... (
http://bit.ly/1I5ArQc )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073425 = 4.2587 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.0007294 = 6.1999 BTC [-]
mats: what does ebays cut look like
pete_dushenski: i imagine a wire transfer would be the only reasonable course of action here
mats: 15k for flipping a buncha bits in a db
pete_dushenski: ya, makes remittances look cheap. so where's the fat rich white guy sitting in his newoldporsche on the phoundation's website ?
mats: hes on the casting couch holding the cam for that woman in front of the whiteboard
davout: thestringpuller: haha such nice troll
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0007294 = 5.6164 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00073073 = 3.544 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14963 @ 0.00072879 = 10.9049 BTC [-] {3}
punkman: pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. << ebay still takes 10% fee on final price (up to $1k or something). and that's before paypal fees. not for cars though.
☟︎ punkman: which is why I sometimes find sellers website/email and transact away from ebay
punkman: for a while you'd see items priced $0.1 and rest of price in shipping costs, which worked to minimize fees.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00073129 = 9.5799 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00073459 = 7.199 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00073129 = 7.8248 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 06:01:17; pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. it's paypal i'd worry about.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00073459 = 2.2038 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 10:11:16; assbot: Unhackable Version of Windows Built By Israeli Security Company ... (
http://bit.ly/1JOjEWc )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14089 @ 0.00073811 = 10.3992 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.0007313 = 18.4288 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21167 @ 0.0007298 = 15.4477 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell Belxjander you haven't actually fixed your connection.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4033 @ 0.00072695 = 2.9318 BTC [-]
shinohai: Did that n6 guy who was trying to build gentoo and get in wot ever come back with a new name?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7080 @ 0.00073918 = 5.2334 BTC [+] {3}
shinohai: Oh cool danielpbarron glad he got up and running finally
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:29:25; trinque: or what, if aliens landed, you think they'd want some kind of cultural exchange, rather than to scrape whatever they like out of the earth's crust and ocean, then depart?
funkenstein_: For a prompt to imagine how this might work, see "Accelerondo" - Charles Stross (megabook)
jurov: are dns samples "cultural exchange"?
☟︎ punkman: funkenstein_: maybe cultural exchange will involve getting fucked by tentacles for the next 10,000 years
funkenstein_: as to whether the defenseless, or any item at all, has value- see open market for that
funkenstein_: a proof that something has value is an offer to pay for said thing
punkman: what's the thing, arawak slavegirls?
kakobrekla: looks like it either the key or the message
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3379 @ 0.0007372 = 2.491 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10918 @ 0.00072775 = 7.9456 BTC [-]
shinohai weeps for the loss of phuctor, hopes the perps responsible reap karma.
fluffypony: I had a box at a DC that rebooted every few hours
fluffypony: I reported it as a hardware error 4 times, they kept telling me it can't be, it must be my configuration
fluffypony: so I dropped them and moved to a different host
shinohai: I am of the mind this isn't pure technical gremlins at work, considering the project.
pete_dushenski: "China's foreign currency reserves shrunk by $93.9 billion to hit $3.56 trillion at August-end, the largest monthly drop on record, according to reports."
pete_dushenski: "PBOC had stepped up its foreign exchange intervention to $122 billion in August from about $50 billion in July."
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 08:11:53; punkman: pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. << ebay still takes 10% fee on final price (up to $1k or something). and that's before paypal fees. not for cars though.
shinohai: I must obtain a copy of this unhackable windows, otherwise it is as mythical as North Korean unicorns to me.
pete_dushenski: "“Sailors kept downloading terabyte upon terabyte of porn, often filled with malware,” he added. “One sailor even managed to get his ‘harpoon’ stuck in a USB port.”"
pete_dushenski: shinohai: unhackable winbloze is as much of a joke as ^
pete_dushenski: “We are confident that NOTs will mold our sailors into cyber warriors,” Turing asserted. “By using their imaginations, we can train them on state of the art or next gen systems right away.” “It’s a whole lot better than the Windows 3.1 systems we actually have,” Turing added. “That’s for darn sure.”
pete_dushenski: "For Sale: AGM-114K Hellfire Missile, Slightly Damaged. Asking $1000 OBO. Location: Fort Drum, NY"
pete_dushenski: "Lockheed Upbeat Despite F-35 Losing Dogfight To Red Baron"
pete_dushenski: "REPORT: Female Ranger Grads Going To Crush So Much Fucking Pussy This Weekend"
pete_dushenski: "Odierno: Taco Tuesday Only Thing Holding This Damn Country Together"
shinohai starts selling Syrian passports for BTC
shinohai: Ah! Very good post, and true. Yet no one sees this as consequence.
pete_dushenski: "no one could've predicted a plane being used like a bomb"
pete_dushenski: "A man sexually harassed by his boss at a Wellington hostel has been awarded more than $35,000 after being sacked for complaining about the treatment."
pete_dushenski: "Mr Singh said Mr NarayaNasamy, also known as Robbie Nara, sexually harassed him by sending him explicit text messages, including one produced during the ERA hearing that said "I need to have sexs with u soon"."
shinohai: "I need to have buttsecks with u soon."
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: my blog is getting there. almost ready to be seen by da public.
thestringpuller: "This goes out to the guy with the Jew fro" then you have to distinguish between you and ben_vulp`
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: my friend showed me a video from jay lenos garage, in particular this hot rod that was built froma 12 cylinder tank engine.
pete_dushenski: and there was much more cross-over between car design and military equipment design
pete_dushenski: so tanks, airplanes had more influence over cars, particularly the racing sort
pete_dushenski: this was true as far back as voisin and citroen. google andre lefebvre sometime. guy was a crossover genius.
pete_dushenski: mercedes' domination of f1 in the 1950s was also a result of their ww2 airplane prowess
pete_dushenski: today, of course, cars are a cross between dishwashers and smartphonez
pete_dushenski: obscenely regal proportions on that thing. 'pontoon fenders' doesn't begin to describe that delahaye. and those running boards !
shinohai: Gawd that is a sexy automobile
assbot: Blast reported at chemical plant in eastern China, East Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times ... (
http://bit.ly/1NXLhAe )
pete_dushenski: there's internal turmoil, certainly in northwest where teh islamists reside. so 'accidents' can happen, but then again so too can accidents
pete_dushenski: sometimes there are patterns, sometimes mere coincidence and the actual reporting of otherwise hush-hush events make it appear as if there are patterns
shinohai: Oh yeah, I am sure there are lots of "accidents" that never make the media.
trinque: ;;later tell funkenstein_ feed it your pubkey as ascii-armor first
trinque: I can sync them from assbot only if they're on SKS, and that one didn't appear to be, unless I'm coffee-deficient at the moment
trinque: I also have no fucking idea what I read.
punkman: trinque: but assbot gets them from SKS
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00073857 = 12.7034 BTC [+]
trinque: punkman: yeah I'm telling him to either upload the key or feed it directly into deedbot-
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.0007392 = 3.8808 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8l11q9hsJM << “I don't think any of us—especially those five people—want to be the high priests of Bitcoin. We need to find a new way of governing—a new way of coming to decisions and have everyone be happy with the process and the decisions that are reached.”
☟︎ pete_dushenski: “If you go back in time, it was simple. It was whatever Satoshi decided.”
pete_dushenski doesn't recommend wasting 80 mins of precious life watching gavin derp on podcast. just for historical reference and record.
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3968 @ 0.00073283 = 2.9079 BTC [-]
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 02:04:29; *: asciilifeform in zombie city
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00073227 = 6.6637 BTC [-]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00072774 = 4.512 BTC [-]
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ascii_field: 'he ran into my knife! he ran into my knife, TEN TIMES!!'
ascii_field: punkman: what, you thought #b-a was exempt from embrace&extenduish ?
ascii_field: 'Reproducible builds are already a staple of Bitcoin and the Tor Project.' << ahahahahahahaha
ascii_field: carefully avoiding to mention ~which~ bitcoin
punkman: also I have serious doubts re: "According to Lunar, 83 percent of Debian packages are now built reproducibly, and more join the party every day."
ascii_field: 'Diverse Double-Compiling' << little problem here. THERE IS ONLY ONE C COMPILER worth a cow's fart
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00072638 = 34.4304 BTC [-] {5}
ascii_field: '"Just because I use mutt doesn't mean I enjoy it," he wrote in an email. "I hate it. I wish there were something better, but I've not found it yet."'
pete_dushenski: 'in the database dump from Impact Team, all we can see is the ample evidence that male users were contacted by bots pretty much constantly. Those data fields tell us that 20 million men out of 31 million received bot mail, and about 11 million of them were chatted up by an automated “engager.”'
pete_dushenski: apparently ashley madison was yet another mommy blogger/daddy investor 'make money while you sleep' scam
☟︎ pete_dushenski: no one wanted to have affairs, just to ~feel~ like they might possibly consider it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15742 @ 0.00072526 = 11.417 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: "Once the man struck up a conversation, the bot would say things like this: "Hmmmm, when I was younger I used to sleep with my friend’s boyfriends. I guess old habits die hard although I could never sleep with their husbands." and "I’m sexy, discreet, and always up for kinky chat. Would also meet up in person if we get to know each other and think there might be a good connection. Does this sound intriguing?
pete_dushenski: ” It’s unclear what else the engager would say—either the bots really are this simple, or further chat phrases weren’t in the code. Most likely, based on what I saw from other bot code, the bot would urge the man to pay credits to talk further."
punkman: "really are this simple" yeah you don't need more than that
ascii_field: the real enabler is usg, of course, because not just anyone gets to harvest the chump armies.
☟︎ ascii_field: it is a crown concession, like petro-drilling the coast
punkman: ashleymadison is a crown concession?
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:32:12; mircea_popescu: <shinohai> What kind of poppycock is that? Won't hire me if I have been negative online. << it's not hiring as much as living wage layer two. do you want to be like the niggers, getting free pills and welfare checks ? that's living wage layer zero. move to the ghetto. are you instead happy with the minimum wage, tax rebates, etc bullshit ? that's layer one, move to suburbia.
pete_dushenski: 'usg "hires" you to lap up the welfare faucet drippings.'
pete_dushenski: punkman: in any event, argument being, there's no u.s. anything without crown say-so
punkman: pete_dushenski: I don't buy that the crown has any control whatsoever against the botmasters
ascii_field: punkman: it was a multimillion above-board corp. with legal team, almost-ipo, etc
ascii_field: you don't get to be that in usa without some apparatchik support.
pete_dushenski: punkman: doesn't have to be direct string-pulling, can be 2nd, 3rd order
ascii_field: or the first patent troll who comes along will eat you for lunch. or ceo busted for 'irregularities' of which every man on u.s. soil who ever so much as smelled a seven-figure sum is guilty as all hell; etc
pete_dushenski: not like obama has time between youtube videos with 'viral stars' to write scripts for ashmad bots
ascii_field: 'Earlier this year, reports emerged about plastic rice sold on the Chinese market making its way across Asia. This fake rice was a more edible-sounding mix of potatoes, sweet potatoes and delicious synthetic resin. According to Oryza.com, plastic-tainted rice grains remain hard after being boiled, and the soup made by it forms a very unappetizing plastic sheath 'that burns like plastic' when heated up.'
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:00:49; mircea_popescu: but that's all gone now. people aren't willing to kill each other so they'll get packed.
punkman: ascii_field: I meant the non-US botmasters, ashleymadison sure, just like any other US corp
ascii_field: poor cn orcs haven't had their buffett and wrigley's corp. yet, have not invented reasonably food-like industrial waste, yet.
ascii_field has seen esr in the flesh on several occasions, and the man is an INSUFFERABLE braggart and confabulator
ascii_field: but money was never one of the things he bragged of.
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: did you two chat or just 'see across room'
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pete_dushenski: ascii_field: by the time esr could legally sell his shares in 'lnux' (june 2000), the share price had tanked from $240 at end of ipo day to ~$40.
ascii_field: but i think most folks could avoid bleeding 400K/yr out of their arse
ascii_field: the most likely thing is that the man INVESTED!!1111!!111 it
trinque: ahaha I just got an e-mail from "pantera capital" addressed to [FirstName] inviting me to apply for funding.
☟︎☟︎ ascii_field: trinque: make sure to also buy v14gr4!!!11 from them
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: because what else ? take little, regular sips from pool
trinque: maybe I can get someone to tie a laptop to his scrotum
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pete_dushenski: ascii_field: the point being, most people haven't the foggiest clue how to make a dime last a day, much less how to turn it into 15c.
trinque: "commence payments" sold my email to pantera
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: see my ancient review of mpex for instance.
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: are you saying you're 'most people' now ?
ascii_field: but quite impossible to turn 10c into 20c.
ascii_field: especially and particularly if you need 9 of the 10 cents to make rent.
pete_dushenski: aha. very reasonable counter-point. but my original point still stands because you're changing the premises now. esr didn't have 10c and need 9 to make rent, same for lottery/athletics winners. they had millions and failed to turn it into anything other than heartache and dust
shinohai: So I will take the remaining 1c and turn it into twopence
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: aha, i personally have no idea what he did with it. perhaps he sent it to nigeria.
ascii_field: or invested in best phriend's 'sure to make megabux!!11!!11' sv idiocy
☟︎ pete_dushenski: ascii_field: so maybe it's 'not hard' to turn xxxxxx into 2xxxxxx for you or i, but there's a mountain of evidence to suggest that this is a reasonably rare skillset
ascii_field: at the very least, it is not hard to still have the 100k at the end of the day
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: fuck knows, maybe paid for cunt transplant or what
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: as to esr's 100k, to quote "Yes, we do have some savings and stock. No, I don’t want to tap them, because thank you I do not want to be on the dole or dead of starvation and exposure when I’m really old. "
pete_dushenski: " It’s not going to make much of a dent in (for example) medical insurance, thanks to the statist bastards who’ve driven health-care costs into the stratosphere through their incessant meddling. (They cost my wife her job, too – that’s been psychologically rough on her.)" << moar esr from punkman's link
☟︎ ascii_field: 1) out of what, 6m 2) likely denominated in usg junk
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pete_dushenski: 1) this is average roi for 'make money while you sleep' 2) what else ?
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 15:37:38; mircea_popescu: i don't solve problems. i just throw away other people's solutions.
ascii_field: i for one sincerely hope that esr lives long enough to starve; and that i live long enough to watch.
ben_vulpes will someday wear esrs mantle of "attached self to prominent open source project"
ascii_field: esr is an especially noxious worm for having the temerity to pretend that his career owes nothing to usg
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: i don't live in the dc city walls properly speaking
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: but in nearly p.g. county, md
ascii_field: generally i stay out of dc other than to see museums and miscellaneous oddities
pete_dushenski: i need to make my way to dc's museums one of these years.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: highly recommended. so long as you stay out of the 'modern art' claptrap pits, you will see 'america as it once was'
ascii_field: see the goodies before they get mysteriously desaparecido'd (sold for hard currency to cn)
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: i can travel to china just as well, but dc is marginally more convenient. for now.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: why do you assume that the buyer will exhibit the goods ?
pete_dushenski checks yeg to bwi. $376 round trip with stop-over in ord.
pete_dushenski: plaque reading 'on generous loan from his greatness xixixi'
ascii_field: the land of plastic rice gives a fuck about 'posterity' like a dog about beets.
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ascii_field: 'In the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina back in 2005, five former New Orleans police officers were sentenced to six to 65 years in prison in connection to on-the-job deadly shootings of unarmed civilians. But recently, these five officers had their convictions set aside by a federal appeals court. Why? Federal prosecutors' anonymous online comments posted underneath local news accounts of the officers' ongoing
ascii_field: 2011 trial "contributed to the mob mentality potentially inherent in instantaneous, unbridled, passionate online discourse," the court said. In light of that, the appellate court found a fair trial wasn't possible.'
☟︎ pete_dushenski: this is like saying that fair trials aren't possible because putin ate a ham&cheese croissant for breakfast.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: summary is, usg does whatever the fuck it wants
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assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 04:15:38; asciilifeform: the discreditation of local police apparatus, for its eventual demolition and replacement by unified fed gendarmerie, is going on schedule.
mats: i have yet to read about guardsmen shooting looters during katrina in the news
jurov: thestringpuller: mats: pete_dushenski: trinque: BingoBoingo: etc. coinbr back up, monthly fee for august waived
mats: and i know for a fact this happened
ascii_field: mats: you also will not often read about orcs shooting at ambulances during katrina. which also happened.
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kakobrekla: so, i discovered a recipe for healthy teeth.
mats: ascii_field: understand, this invokes memories of 'kent state' and the usual fears of us .mil operating domestically
kakobrekla: until now i was always serviced by men. what a mistakea to makea.
pete_dushenski: men for ortho, womenz for regular dentistry is best balance in my experience
pete_dushenski has never seen endo, perio, other specialists, doesn't know
mats: you would think americans would care. southerners in particular are perennially afraid of obama directing troops to steal their firearms, kill them, etc...
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ascii_field: mats: the way it works is, there are precisely two kinds of permitted mass media in usa: 1) usg 2) usg crank bait
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ascii_field: discussion of 'fed troops coming' is permitted strictly in the latter; and strictly in conjunction with discussions of martians coming, and shooting mind control rays
ascii_field: classic example of this algo being what happened with the '9-11 truth' folks.
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ascii_field: the choice permitted is between the official narrative and martians.
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jurov: what happens when new shares are delayed for a week!
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analmaster: thank you obama, for making it easier to enrich.
jurov: prepping eulora release
ascii_field: 'Steve Jobs played no role at all in any of my designs of the Apple I and Apple II computer and printer interfaces and serial interfaces and floppy disks and stuff that I made to enhance the computers. He did not know technology. He’d never designed anything as a hardware engineer, and he didn’t know software. He wanted to be important, and the important people are always the business people. So that’s wh
ascii_field: at he wanted to do. The Apple II computer, by the way, was the only successful product Apple had for its first 10 years, and it was all done, for my own reasons for myself, before Steve Jobs even knew it existed.'
trinque: yeah, I don't think anyone who is aware of tech thinks he invented anything
trinque: built a few very successful companies though
analmaster: hello, ill be your anal master for the next 22 minutes
shinohai: That will barely stretch my anus
analmaster: Hell would be heaven for me. All my life I've been with the have-nots. Over here, if you're a have-not, you're short of dough. If you're a have-not in hell, you're short of virtue. Once I get into hell, I'll start organizing the have-nots over there.
assbot: You have not rated trinque.
punkman: what do the "haves" in hell have?
shinohai: !rate trinque 1 Thanks for the help w/ Gentoo
shinohai: !v assbot:shinohai.rate.trinque.1:bfd69c9c9230ea2c46ba7c1722dc9b86bc5817f13192e63b9e9af4c0fddf43ba
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for trinque with note: Thanks for the help w/ Gentoo
analmaster: punkman: the haves in hell have contempt for jews.
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shinohai: What constitutes a "have" vs. "have not" ?
shinohai: Oh, then count me as "have not" though most of the time it is intentional, as I don't buy into American commercialism.
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: meh. i think you sucked all the fun outta that game :P
analmaster: no they aired it in the states when i was a teen
punkman just finished eating lentil stew and salty anchovies
punkman: admittedly not the best idea at midnight
analmaster: is there a difference between lentil stew and lentil soup
analmaster: i love lentil soup, with some olive oil and herbamare
davout: analmaster: looks interesting
analmaster: try it, you will never go back to sea salt.
analmaster: i am now shinohai's anal master for the next 29 minutes
shinohai: Hmmm ... since it is a holiday put a sparkler in your anus and take pics for #bitcoin-assets
analmaster: but since its labor day, your anus is going to be doing all the work
shinohai: Might be a good idea to register your gpg key with assbot though, and eventually get rated so you can voice yourself.
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shinohai: No context outside of being racist and damned funny.
shinohai: Every time I see fluffypony, I can't help but think "Friendship is Magic" and all.
fluffypony: thanks shinohai, I'm taking that as a compliment :)
analmaster: my teacher said you can be whatever gender you want to be
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analmaster: i played soccer with a black kid at the bounce house
analmaster: get him ready for a tough life of blackness
analmaster: listen a white lady clinching to their purse when a black person walks by is only natrual
analmaster: blacks commit like 50% of violent crimes in the states
analmaster: and they make up 12 % of the population
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assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 22:03:22; analmaster: can bits have color?
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pete_dushenski: analmaster: microaggression is supposed to be natural. like work, sex, and everything else villainised and illegalised by usg. sorta what monopoly on force means in praxis (monopoly on action)
kakobrekla: ascii_field do you always opt for british english variant (out of spite?)
ascii_field: when i write article-length crud i usually go back and americanize
analmaster: only half of america is a bunch of sensitive little bitches.
analmaster: i happen to the the last remaining american to chop down > 1/4 acre with an axe in 2014.
trinque: I get the sense that guy could've put an eyeball in orbit if he wanted.
pete_dushenski: "Lexus this month will begin offering a service through its Enform telematics system that will enable dealers to remotely look into a customer's check-engine light or other warning on the instrument panel. The service, Enform Service Connect, will be offered on all 2016 Lexus models" << what could possibly go wrong ? not like this'll be hacked six ways to sunday a la jeep uconnect.
pete_dushenski: "McNamara’s brilliant swindle was deliciously simple. It was based on one undeniable truth he learned from his years of owning a Buick-Pontiac-GMC dealership on Long Island: General Motors and GMAC were too incompetent and too bureaucratic to figure out that they were being scammed."
mircea_popescu: as jurov's not actually said anything re his theoretically present but upon examination inexistent connection or w/e it was, this leaves the problem of where to host open.
mircea_popescu: and if it stays open till early oct, nosuchlabs won't have a server until it gets resolved.
jurov: don't wait for me till i communicate it with my guys, of course
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for that matter, is it safe to shut down now ? you have backups and everything ?
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trinque: kdomanski: hi, who are you?
kdomanski: have you guys heard about the whole opensource LGBT drama where a bunch of people wanted a guy out of and OSS project 'cause he said something politically incorrect on twitter?
mats: this would not surprise anyone
trinque: kdomanski: yeah, the ruby thing? not that I don't expect this has happened many times
trinque: kdomanski: yeah, a guy I know more or less shouted "tranny hater!" at me for not caring about it
kdomanski: I cound 7 occurences of the word "privilege"
trinque: the SJWs can have Ruby; it's a steaming pile of shit
trinque: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel Conkeror has made its way into daily use; JS debugging tips? Best thing providing a JS REPL in Emacs?
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davout: let's start a ruby flame war
trinque: davout: ruby is objectively butts. rebuttal?
☟︎ davout: i like the language, the community much much less
trinque: I've done some ruby; mostly just yelling
davout: trinque: it has unicorns installable as a convenient ruby gem
trinque: davout: the whimsy, which I blame on that "Why" guy, bleh
davout: "Is this what the other maintainers want to be reflected in the project? Will any transgender developers feel comfortable contributing?"
davout: ugh, transgender people either have something to contribute, or they don't, like the fucking rest of us
trinque: nah diversity is a kind of magic dust you sprinkle on your products, and "radical innovation" sprouts
trinque: kdomanski: I am a white male; what do I know anyway?
davout: "Requesting contributions before being heard is a pretty low stab as well - you are basically saying that opinions gain worth with merit." <<< oh god
kdomanski: trinque: shame on you, check your privilege
kdomanski: "unless @elia is removed from the project, I cannot learn Ruby, and thus can't get a job in Ruby development"
shinohai: til you really don't need anything special to perform a DoS attack on reddit besides a script that constantly f5's the page.
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