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jurov: that kind of bug one wonders how the whole thing worked at all
mats: is it because multiple customers put orders in at the same time?
jurov: and at the same price
jurov: and trade between themselves :)
mats: i guess it worked because i was the only one with any volume for the longest time
jurov: not just that, mpex added a misfeature of randomly rejecting orders
jurov: sometime during the recent lull
mats: well, if its any consolation, there's a btc for your troubles when coinbr is up, i know you do a lot of pro bono work around here
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00072471 = 7.6457 BTC [-]
shinohai: One day when I actually have btc I need someone to show me the ropes on coinbr
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263473 << thx for thumbsup but this is not related to current situation ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 00:33:21; Bingo_VACAY: Juriv seriously consider raising coinbr fees
oglafbot: http://oglaf.com/penpals/
assbot: Pen Pals ... ( http://bit.ly/1iqDRbA )
jurov: monthly/withdrawal fees already cause enough friction, pple made themselves heard
jurov: and the % .. maaybe someday ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Ah, well
jurov: http://hugelolcdn.com/i460/352391.jpg for all the niggaz
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1iqE1jk )
shinohai: LOLZ jurov
BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/eA9YX
assbot: Start a 'Grease Bucket Challenge' to raise awareness about obesity. : CrazyIdeas ... ( http://bit.ly/1JZPyMn )
mircea_popescu: lol pc frog
mircea_popescu: <shinohai> What kind of poppycock is that? Won't hire me if I have been negative online. << it's not hiring as much as living wage layer two. do you want to be like the niggers, getting free pills and welfare checks ? that's living wage layer zero. move to the ghetto. are you instead happy with the minimum wage, tax rebates, etc bullshit ? that's layer one, move to suburbia. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: however if you want the best of the best cafeteria food - that's level two! be positive online, move to san francisco!
mircea_popescu: hiring in the traditional sense has no bearing on all this. it's "hiring", as in, usg "hires" you to lap up the welfare faucet drippings.
mircea_popescu: on the plus side, you won't have any actual work to do, that sort where you could encounter and might have to overcome your own stupidity and general human limitations. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: on the minus side, if you can do it for a year and not want to kill yourself every night, you'll know you're dumb. not even "not smart". outright dumb.
mircea_popescu: <punkman> when do we start making a browser? << noty.
shinohai: Ironically mircea_popescu, the hashbang guys wanted me to come to San Fran and work lol
mircea_popescu: aha
shinohai: I'd last about a week before I burnt the place down.
mircea_popescu: but to be fair : i also won't hire them if they've been stupid online.
shinohai: Or mybe I could sustain another workplace injury nd double my income.
mircea_popescu: so it's just where the wall is drawn.
mircea_popescu: either don't be stupid, if you can, or if you can't, then don't be negative. sorcerers in the celestial city. zombies in the zombie horde. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: all things have a place and a place for all things.
shinohai: True. ^
shinohai: No one wants to be around someone that always projects negativity. But isn't there something to be said for honesty? ☟︎
shinohai: If someone tells me my product sucks, and it genuinely sucks, perhaps I can use that feedback to not suck.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00073841 = 17.4265 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: shinohai: coincidentally, i just saw this http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/06/business/smart-workers-seek-out-advice-study-suggests.html?src=me
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkiSEy )
mircea_popescu: that's not even the main point. the main point is that they abhor hierarchy, and want the world to be flat.
mircea_popescu: negative reinforcement is what your superiors do, and they can't have any.
mircea_popescu: so you know, if his product sucks tell him in such a way that it doesn't come out you're better than him, and he won't think you were "being negative"
mircea_popescu: all this derpage to assuage the fears and terrors of the 14yo mind already... it's kinda sad.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264638 << 0.5% per trade is plenty. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:13:24; jurov: and the % .. maaybe someday
pete_dushenski: dunno where BingoBoingo gets the idea that he's jurov's business development advisor now
pete_dushenski is a contented coinbr customer, downtown factored in
shinohai: I may be totally wrong, but I think it is foolhardy *not* to seek advice and varied viewpoints.
pete_dushenski: downtime*
pete_dushenski: shinohai: sure, but i didn't see jurov seeking advice here. maybe i missed this in the logs ?
pete_dushenski: !s hashbang
assbot: 5 results for 'hashbang' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hashbang
BingoBoingo just tossed out that suggestion
pete_dushenski: the equivalent being jurov telling qntra to put up a paywall because "make more skrillz!"
pete_dushenski: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 242.36, Best ask: 242.37, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 242.37, 24 hour volume: 20324.8238345, 24 hour low: 235.75, 24 hour high: 248.48, 24 hour vwap: None
BingoBoingo: Would give that idea consideration
pete_dushenski: not saying you wouldn't
mats: i love drama
pete_dushenski: and maybe someday, we'll live to see it
pete_dushenski: mats: drama ? heh this little tickling ?
mats: your mom ☟︎
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/PkBridv.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkjB8E )
pete_dushenski: speaking of qntra, it's coming up on its first bday, neh ?
pete_dushenski: october, wasn't it
BingoBoingo: it is
pete_dushenski: pretty sweet
pete_dushenski: and s.qntr has gone from 0.00013514 to 0.00039 !!!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00072881 = 10.422 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-qntr/
assbot: S.QNTR Analysis - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkjY2Y )
pete_dushenski: "Eugenie Bouchard has pulled out of the US Open with a concussion. TSN has learned that Bouchard sustained the injury on Friday night when she tripped while walking from the training room to room where the ice bath is located." << go canada ;/
shinohai: Qntra ... Powered by the tears of reddit (tm)
pete_dushenski: and truth !
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264355 << if this doesn't encourage a few more kids to put their money where their mouths are, nothing will. now if they only had any money... ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:27:29; mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.00541072 * 15000
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00072881 = 5.539 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: bbl
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29155 @ 0.00073723 = 21.4939 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32000 @ 0.00073866 = 23.6371 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264205 << win. where do i buy a ticket to the public impalement of the 'best practices' folks ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 19:55:05; shinohai: https://j.ludost.net/blog/archives/2015/09/05/rfc-2631_fips_186-3_and_openssls_implementation_of_dsa_appear_broken_and_possibly_backdoored/index.html
asciilifeform: that's what i wanna know
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264271 << checking TAKES AS LONG AS RECALCULATING ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 20:36:02; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263952 << understand, there's no hardware solution to this problem. you may make the probability less, but the only path to certainty is checking.
asciilifeform: because it ~is~ equivalent to recalculating !
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264281 << neato. kakobrekla, do you have it on your list ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 20:42:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263954 << 188.68.240.159 is also online, running pressed stator.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264312 << if you let the attach be mime/txt, line endings will be mutilated, aha. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:10:03; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1263972 << add to that, "never use known file extensions".
asciilifeform: Because It Can.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264334 << tr0l0l0l, gold medal. can take off the walrus mask now - which one of you rascals was this. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:18:13; anton_osika: So long. Thanks for the voice until I can become friends with phunctor.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264370 << 'work' as in their presence must not make the thing blow up. atm, it does. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 21:47:05; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264012 << why would either work ?!
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264422 << completely useless for anything but static html. it simply happens to be where my site lives ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:17:52; mats: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net
asciilifeform: (you can't actually get a 24/7 unix process at n.f.s. - it's a plain old www hoster, 1990s-style)
asciilifeform: ~and~ it's american.
asciilifeform: prolly not of interest to anyone here.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264440 << see above. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:22:10; mats: in fact i think alf does?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264443 << i don't expect to get anything out of this. or rather, i don't expect to see any of the things that i want, for the price i can afford. this requires broke, desperate americans selling to make rent. and i can't see them doing it on mircea_popescutron ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:22:48; pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: unless you already have dark market connex, you might have to wait for mircea_popescu/trinque's new buy/sell board ;)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264476 << same, l0l ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:31:46; mircea_popescu: incidentally /me hates that trait more than any other.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264479 << holy fuck man what've you been smoking ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:31:55; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform also, 'order id 22472' would indicate that you have more available btc than rothschilds. who's poor now ? (and yes, i understand that no one will ever actually offer you 'taig' via -otc)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264569 << it's that one bloke, every time. mr. misspell. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 23:07:59; mircea_popescu: i dunno. oddly the stan brood never talks.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264609 << this needs exposition work imho ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 23:46:21; mircea_popescu: ml also interesting for all the misdirection and denial work Peter Gutmann pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz sinks into the matter.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264614 << note the standard slimeball blame shift to the folks who busted the bug vault, rather than the turds who collected and sat on the goodies for usgtronic purpose ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 23:56:11; assbot: Hackers spent at least a year spying on Mozilla to discover Firefox security holes – and exploit them • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1iqD4HV )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264649 << where does my personal circle of hell fit into this dante inferno ? y'know, the one with work ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:33:26; mircea_popescu: on the plus side, you won't have any actual work to do, that sort where you could encounter and might have to overcome your own stupidity and general human limitations.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264658 << omitted important elements, the zombie city and the celestial horde. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:41:34; mircea_popescu: either don't be stupid, if you can, or if you can't, then don't be negative. sorcerers in the celestial city. zombies in the zombie horde.
asciilifeform in zombie city ☟︎
asciilifeform moonlights in celestial horde
asciilifeform: wallowin' with the eagles.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264661 << 'negative' there is codespeak for '#b-a and other thoughtcrimes' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:45:54; shinohai: No one wants to be around someone that always projects negativity. But isn't there something to be said for honesty?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00073866 = 3.0285 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/a/GIDeo << i went there today. and this is how i imagine your old house looks like. ☟︎
assbot: The Museum of Sleep-ad-Libitum ! - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1VHYo9U )
asciilifeform: five motherfucking stories of it.
mircea_popescu: ahaha no, those chairs suck
asciilifeform: there were perhaps 1,001 types of chair.
asciilifeform: from ludovic vii to aeron.
mircea_popescu: they all seem the same, but maybe just bad pic choice
asciilifeform: rooms had 'countries' theme - 'britain', 'russia', etc.
asciilifeform: with predominantly 19th c (or early to mid 20th in some cases) setting for each.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264739 << there's always one of these precious "oh nothing happened lolz" derps mixing themselves in every discussion ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 01:59:41; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264609 << this needs exposition work imho
mircea_popescu: in this case, it was gutmann
asciilifeform: how else!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16825 @ 0.00072652 = 12.2237 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: i had never before been inside a hose half like that.
asciilifeform: it was brain-melting.
asciilifeform: ~THIS~ is how actual people lived.
mircea_popescu: re that "blame shift" : i wouldn't even say it's blame shift or anything. pure "us vs them" mentality. obama bombs some schools ? YAY! schools organise and shoot some us terrorists ? BOO!!1
asciilifeform: ^ makes sense
asciilifeform: btw that was also the first time in my entire life in usa that i saw proper european-height ceilings.
asciilifeform: (in a residential bldg)
mircea_popescu: and ftr it's perfectly sound. who exactly do you suppose will get quarter for "having been a very competent usg agent" ?
mircea_popescu: chtulhu can eat him first
asciilifeform: speaking of which, the curator informed me that j.e.hoover quartered his agents in that place.
mircea_popescu: what is it, some sort of hotrel ?
asciilifeform: house of 19th c. mega-imperial somebody, turned into a museum-cum-whore-hotel
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: http://www.omansion.com << very spammy www, if i learned of it from www instead of wandering in, would not have even contemplated setting foot near it
assbot: The Mansion on O Street™ | Events, weddings, b&b & more in Dupont Circle, Washington DC. ... ( http://bit.ly/1VHZsL2 )
asciilifeform: possibly one of the worst company www i have ever seen.
asciilifeform: and yes, one can rent the place by the hour, day, month, and actually shit in them golden toilets !!
asciilifeform: ^ ben_vulpes et al
asciilifeform: ^ anybody else in gringolandia.
mats: lol, front page: white, azn, brown child
asciilifeform: mats: i disrecommend the www; just see my photos.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4725 @ 0.00072985 = 3.4485 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: though ftr i was there for ~2h and didn't visit even half the rooms.
asciilifeform was there with pet, and afterwards we had debate re: whether 'if even a few of the folks with maxint usd wanted a house like this, how many could be satisfied, ..., ..., turkey-buying dollars (tm), ..., ... .'
mats: i looked at em, gaudy stuff
asciilifeform: mats: much of the garbage in the photos is 'yard sale'
asciilifeform: (literally, the folks who work in that place, brought the crud in for sale)
asciilifeform: it is where the piles of 'books' came from
mats: lol
mircea_popescu: i'm not entirely certain what exactly strikes your fancy so, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: similar feeling to when i saw an american grocery store for first time
mircea_popescu: !up zveda
zveda: mircea_popescu: thanks
mircea_popescu: aha. who're you ?
asciilifeform: 'so this is what actual life looked like.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the abundance of items ? or what ?
asciilifeform: nonononono
asciilifeform: of space.
asciilifeform: fuck the items.
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/gIkqgKO.jpg < such as ?
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1i6SZLF )
mircea_popescu: first bidet masquerading as bathtub ive ver seen
asciilifeform: there were something like seven wooden tubs of various kinds, in just the rooms i saw
mats: reminds me of bath stall for old folks
asciilifeform: no 'pressed shitboard' either
asciilifeform: mats: actually old ru rubs were of the 'sit-down' kind
asciilifeform: mats: i bathed in one as a boy
asciilifeform: it was sop.
mats: interesting
asciilifeform: then shittification, pressboardification, 'modern' towers, shitter/bath combos, and 'lie-down' enameled steel tubs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, you ever been on the west coast ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope
mircea_popescu: are you going ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: never had a reason to go
asciilifeform: i've never been to alaska either
mircea_popescu: well there certainly exist better museums of "sleep ad libitum" all through california.
asciilifeform: and it is ahead on the list
mircea_popescu: yes but this'd be relevant to your interests.
asciilifeform: any in particular ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, dude, chris rhea's house lol.
mircea_popescu: anyone really.
mircea_popescu: rea*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00073432 = 6.6089 BTC [+] {5}
asciilifeform: it is a museum ?
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: hm.
asciilifeform: i don't personally know a fella named chris rhea.
asciilifeform: so i can't imagine he would invite me for tea.
asciilifeform: (given that i've never heard of such a man)
asciilifeform: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/10821220/Runaway-rhea-Chris-is-shot-dead-by-a-gamekeeper.html
assbot: Runaway rhea, Chris, is shot dead by a gamekeeper - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1VI0TJj )
asciilifeform: 'Local gamekeeper said he understood that the police wanted the bird dispatched because they were worried that it could cause a car crash'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=489 there.
assbot: Leland Stanford Mansion SHP ... ( http://bit.ly/1VI0S8s )
asciilifeform: seems like he is dead. and was a bird.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: now ~that~'s a mega-museum.
asciilifeform puts on map.
mircea_popescu: yw.
mircea_popescu: but srsly, east coast is famous for crampy, shitty quarters.
mircea_popescu: of more genuine historical interest, ;;google Captain George Flavel House
asciilifeform: i think the 'cramped' actually made it appealing to my inner submariner
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: you have an inner submariner ?
asciilifeform: (more pointedly, made it 'plausibly like places in my head')
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my old flat had just enough void air in it to physically pass from one room to another.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all the rest - shelves, bulkheads
mircea_popescu: periscope depth, captn!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the place was also set up in such a way that one must look for hidden doors (e.g., swing-out book cases) to find new rooms
asciilifeform: a kind of labyrinth
asciilifeform: this played straight into the mega-phantasy in my dream world of 'found extra room in house' that i've been afflicted with since childhood
asciilifeform dreams (literally) of rooms the way a hungry man does of food
asciilifeform: it is interesting how visiting, e.g., a gigantic warehouse, or stadium, does not tickle this fantasy
asciilifeform: because those spaces do not register as 'plausibly like somewhere i can picture living'
asciilifeform: for one thing, a four-story warehouse ceiling is vertical space and ipso facto wasted.
asciilifeform: (from my hindbrain's pov)
asciilifeform: whereas an endless succession of labyrinthine chambers is precisely it.
asciilifeform: i now understand why chinese emperors (and american industrialists) built them!
asciilifeform: it was a kind of theme park of not-feeling-cramped
mircea_popescu: isn't "Found extra rooms in house" kinda like "found extra procedures in code" ?
asciilifeform: no.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, my place in timisoara was ~5k sqft on two levels.
mircea_popescu: perfectly standard for the local upper middle class
asciilifeform: no so different from where my parents live, size-wise
mircea_popescu: had the option to buy it for like 80k, which i didn't take. ☟︎
asciilifeform: woah
asciilifeform: 80k barely buys a van here.
mircea_popescu: yes but you live in a shithole.
asciilifeform does not dispute this
asciilifeform: actually i am wrong, fella i know bought a spiffy van for 70k
asciilifeform: anyway, 1,2,3,infinity.
asciilifeform: 80 may as well be 800 or 800,000,000 from my pov.
mircea_popescu: what, it's like 400 btc
asciilifeform: so?
mircea_popescu: not even 1k!!1
asciilifeform: ...?
mircea_popescu: im just being silly.
trinque: asciilifeform: you do live in the worst possible part of the US
trinque: move to Houston, do math for an oil company
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00073894 = 8.7564 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: trinque: see thread.
trinque: the beltway is *not* all there is
trinque: so do science after 5
trinque: I dun geddit
asciilifeform: trinque: read thread, and maybe get it.
asciilifeform: or not.
asciilifeform: trinque: i have zero, zip, nada, interest in being an interchangeable part.
asciilifeform: trinque: if you cannot understand this, i am probably wasting space here attempting to explain it.
trinque: to that I have two responses
trinque: one, do some acid
trinque: two, taqiya
asciilifeform: trinque: would love some acid. might make this existence bearable. see old thread re: why i never had any.
asciilifeform: trinque: as for taqiya, it worked pre-google.
asciilifeform: perhaps.
trinque: asciilifeform: I was telling mr ben_vulp` earlier I'd love to get you some if I'm ever able
trinque: sadly, am currently not
trinque: just to see what'd happen
asciilifeform: dope is over-rated.
trinque: acid's special; not the least bit a matter of getting intoxicated in the usual sense
asciilifeform: !s a smell of petroleum prevails throughout
assbot: 1 results for 'a smell of petroleum prevails throughout' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=a+smell+of+petroleum+prevails+throughout
asciilifeform: trinque: as for your oil men, it is a basic truism of salary men in usa that no one is ever, under any circumstances, paid a salary large enough to stop being a salary man.
asciilifeform: it is an elementary thing.
asciilifeform: kinda like if you were kommendant of auschwitz, you wouldn't give a capo a machinegun
asciilifeform: no matter how much you trusted him.
trinque: I see oil and a few other things as the few remaining inputs on the US "economy
trinque: end quote.
asciilifeform: trinque: i am specifically laughing at your notion that i would hate life less if i were to agree to spend MORE HOURS PER DAY doing IDIOT SCUTWORK in exchange for slightly more banana peels.
trinque: ah shit man, I have meatwot friends working for these oil companies
trinque: they pillage and they live well.
asciilifeform: trinque: live well == sleep ad libitum.
asciilifeform: do they ?
asciilifeform: i think you already answered the question though
asciilifeform: they do not.
asciilifeform: given as 'they work for...'
asciilifeform: QED.
asciilifeform: a cubic kilometre of house is worthless if you can't spend your top waking hours there.
trinque: or another meatwot friend working for a tradebot company
trinque: who tried to hire me
asciilifeform: again, working.
trinque: ends at 5!
trinque: gets his dick sucked the rest of the time!
asciilifeform: 'cause no energy for actual thought, aha
mats: so lets get down to it, asciilifeform
mats: how many hours of actual work do you do per week
asciilifeform: hard to say
asciilifeform: and what is 'actual work'
asciilifeform: does sitting in the wheel coffin count ?
mats: the sort you abhor, sure, include driving
asciilifeform: (traditionally not, but it isn't like i would be there if it were not for the rest of it)
mats: thats ten hours a week right?
trinque: taqiya
asciilifeform: 10-20
trinque: not every act of my career is a manifestation of my principles
trinque: sometimes I'm just trying to get paid
trinque: stick another y on that, I guess
trinque reminisces briefly about the persian chick he dated
mats: 20 hours of driving? really?
trinque: probably most beautiful women on earth.
asciilifeform: mats: sure.
asciilifeform: mats: what is so astonishing
trinque: that's 2hrs commute a day
trinque: can happen
trinque: houston traffic gets crazy
asciilifeform: 2 is the bestcase
mats: i dunno how your mental formula works, but i'd certainly pay to live closer
trinque: thing is, I know guys that just chose to be the smartest guy at a truly asinine startup
trinque: they make great money, they do whatever they please in their free time
trinque: I run a business, but I have no quarrel with those that just maximize their own path through the whole retarded mess./
trinque: I started my business by neglecting other retarded pursuits and building the other thing in spare time.
asciilifeform: mats: i can't even begin to afford to live near where i work.
asciilifeform: mats: literally twice or more per square metre.
trinque: oh asciilifeform, DC and surrounding sucks so much.
trinque: surely you understand that the sludge flows out from exactly there?
asciilifeform: trinque: of course.
asciilifeform: trinque: i don't work for the sludge though.
trinque: I know, but proximity!
asciilifeform: what about it? it isn't like this is ancient china and you don't have to pay tax if you live far away from the tax collector.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00073894 = 6.0593 BTC [+]
trinque: yeah, but you just don't run into them.
trinque: everyone of consequence in TX hates the federal government.
trinque: deeply, and as a matter of principle
asciilifeform: trinque: do they pay a penny less of tax from this ?
trinque: you just feel that way, and wait for the other thing to fail.
asciilifeform: feel ahahaha lol.
trinque: how many years do you think the federal govt has left?
asciilifeform: 10,000.
trinque: the gov of texas talked openly about secession throughout his term.
asciilifeform: or not.
asciilifeform: but longer than i have.
trinque: they will destroy the currency and fail
asciilifeform: sure. and then i will be dead.
trinque: who knows.
asciilifeform: nah i'm pretty sure.
asciilifeform: mats: i will add, to earlier thread, that it is not even reliably possible to ~rent a house at all~ near where i work.
asciilifeform: renting out houses is not something that is done, generally, in the richer parts of MD.
mats: it becomes 2x per sqm to get so much as 30mins from work?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9820 @ 0.00073894 = 7.2564 BTC [+]
mats: and you cannot rent rooms either i suppose?
asciilifeform: fuck rooms
asciilifeform: what, you think i will put up with sharing toilet with strangers ?
asciilifeform: seen them, smelling them ?
asciilifeform: why the everliving fuck should i even think about this.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> hard to say << heh.
mats: so princely
asciilifeform: so minimum-human-ly.
asciilifeform: how many unrelated, unfucked adults does mats share his quarters with ?
asciilifeform: (today, not in the barrack)
mats: wat is 'unfucked'
asciilifeform: ones you do not regularly have sex with
mircea_popescu: interesting metric.
mircea_popescu: makes the collegiate campus a winner. especially at arizona state.
mats: i live alone atm. moved recently. but for most of non-barracks, non-univ adulthood i shared quarters with 2-4 other people
mats: and i expect to do so again in a year or so
asciilifeform: sux
mats: i don't abhor it like you do, will prob do it willingly well into late 20s
mats: sharing toilet with four others does suck, though. but small price to pay to hold onto more wages
mircea_popescu: i expect this will be the permanent normal mode of living from noiw on anyway.
asciilifeform: mats: small price if you don't do any serious thinking.
mircea_popescu: in the 50s a bank CLERK lived in roughly what alf thinks palatial. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see old thread about sovietized flats where i live, aha
mircea_popescu: but that's all gone now. people aren't willing to kill each other so they'll get packed. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: those being, very strictly, the options.
asciilifeform: aha, garbage collector hasn't really run since '45
mircea_popescu: nah. see problem there wasd, they destroyed more stuff than killed people.
mircea_popescu: so it was actrually scant improvement.
asciilifeform: '18 then ?
mircea_popescu: i would think so.
asciilifeform: anyway, i don't expect to live to see another such thing. certainly not the other side of it, anyway!
asciilifeform: slightly related,
asciilifeform: i have been getting increasingly frequent telephone spam from electric co., offering to cut my rates in exchange for a (for now, voluntary!) remote disable on my air conditioner compressor. it is hilariously insulting. why won't they just mail me a vial of cyanide, also 'voluntary' ?
asciilifeform: even more electric saving, from it
asciilifeform: i suppose it is not too long to wait, for the northkr-style rolling blackouts
asciilifeform: and for the predictable game of hopscotch through various 'voluntary', 'voluntary-compulsory', finally compulsory belt-tightenings ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'mains power on tuesdays for party members'
mircea_popescu: uh
mircea_popescu: wtf is that lol
mircea_popescu: !s <Belxjander>
assbot: 47 results for '<Belxjander>' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%3CBelxjander%3E
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265005 << forget clerk. a railwayman could ~buy~ a house and support five children on his wages, in '50s. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:00:35; mircea_popescu: in the 50s a bank CLERK lived in roughly what alf thinks palatial.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-08-2015#1224008 << l0l! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 04-08-2015 06:58:21; Belxjander: using AmigaOS 4.1Final on my desktop myself... definitely niche..
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264735 << also being silly ? i really don't disagree with your assessment of your personal situation at the end of the day. i mean, how could i ? but nor do i share your uniquely russian fatalism. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 01:55:12; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264479 << holy fuck man what've you been smoking
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264753 << reminds me of 'deco' museum in riga. /me goes digging for pics. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 02:31:58; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/a/GIDeo << i went there today. and this is how i imagine your old house looks like.
pete_dushenski: also of rented apartement in jewish quarter in riga, which had the most beautiful interior staircase with the most divinely baroque wrought iron handrails.
pete_dushenski: derp. s/riga/prague on the 2nd one.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what were you doing in riga ?
asciilifeform: 'Jack Whittaker won $315 million and ten years later, his daughter and granddaughter had both died of drug overdoses, his wife divorced him, and once while in a strip club, he was drugged and robbed of $545,000 in cash, as reported by The New York Times.' << thinking folk don't play lotteries.
asciilifeform: elementary.
asciilifeform: unsurprising that scum wipes his arse with the money.
asciilifeform: (with the enthusiastic help of his 'friends' and family)
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: touring. visited most of latvia and lithuania. just last year in fact. partially documented here http://www.contravex.com/2014/09/12/architecture-in-riga/
assbot: Architecture in Riga | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JLn35Z )
asciilifeform: ah hm i recall this
asciilifeform: went just for kicks? to eat fine sprats ?
asciilifeform: enjoy classic su atmosphere ?
pete_dushenski: kicks was the intent. fell in love with the food.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00073787 = 11.7321 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: i'd already been to most of the rest of europe, so baltic was somewhere new
asciilifeform: 'William "Bud" Post won $16.2 million in the Pennsylvania lottery in 1988 but was $1 million in debt within a year. "I wish it never happened," Post said. "It was totally a nightmare." A former girlfriend successfully sued him for a share of his winnings and his brother was arrested for hiring a hit man to kill him in the hopes he'd inherit a share of the winnings.'
asciilifeform: ^ how the fuck does that even work
asciilifeform: 'former girlfriend sued successfully..'
asciilifeform: 'Their 14-year marriage was over, a freak fire gutted their house, and every penny of their fortune was gone.' << at least he had the sense to scorched-earth
asciilifeform: rather then letting the vultures get it.
asciilifeform: btw in usa they traditionally hand out the winningz piecemeal, to make sure that the lucky fella doesn't do something That Would Be Wrong like cashing out to btc and sending it all to isis
asciilifeform: or equipping 500 fine young folks with automatic weapons and a reason to live
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00073737 = 8.5904 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265031 << one interesting mega-feature of 'o street' is that you can actually pay to live in it. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:34:44; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264753 << reminds me of 'deco' museum in riga. /me goes digging for pics.
asciilifeform: unlike most museums
pete_dushenski: by the hour eh
asciilifeform: by the year if you like.
pete_dushenski: neato
asciilifeform: i suspect that the day is not far when lotteries turn into 'lifetime walmart gift card' instead of usd ☟︎
asciilifeform: prolly after the first winner catching on to algo of 'cash out to btc, brainwallet'
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> unsurprising that scum wipes his arse with the money. << that's one angle, and valid. the other angle, perhaps equally valid, is that prisoner kept in prison since birth has imagination of life outside, is let out, in a world much akin the prison inside, goes berserk.
pete_dushenski: we have '$1k 4 lyf' lotteries here. pretty lulzy
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i live in same prison, what of it
asciilifeform: imagination is a thing of the inner world
mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: if you don't have it - you ain't a someone.
asciilifeform: not a person.
asciilifeform: if it were possible to give 20megausd to a dog, what would he do?
asciilifeform: buy a megatonne of kibble ?
asciilifeform: hire squads to collect rotting racoon carcasses from whole city, every day?
mircea_popescu: buy cats, force them to dress as bitches, fuck them ?
asciilifeform: nah that'd be a man.
asciilifeform: with imagination.
mircea_popescu: afaio dogs like to fuck more than to eat.
asciilifeform: aha but are satisfied with chairs, telephone poles
asciilifeform: rather like american consumer.
mircea_popescu has observed pitbull kill cat, fuck carcass.
asciilifeform: did other animals queue up ?
asciilifeform: like that sea gull
mircea_popescu: nope
mircea_popescu: lmao
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.world-art.ru/lyric/lyric.php?id=14707 << related.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1EJSbGr )
asciilifeform: mega-classic.
asciilifeform: obligatory:
asciilifeform: http://rutube.ru/video/5c999e682aedf4d7f08adebda715433f
assbot: Мультфильм Мультфильм Миллионер — смотрите мультики онлайн бесплатно в хорошем качестве. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EJShOj )
asciilifeform: ^ animated version of this poem.
asciilifeform: also mega-classic.
asciilifeform: with english subs!
asciilifeform: !up Vexual
Vexual cadillac hands, unknowingly
mats: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265062 << thats genius ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:55:15; asciilifeform: i suspect that the day is not far when lotteries turn into 'lifetime walmart gift card' instead of usd
pete_dushenski: "Billiards Suite • $4,000/night • sleeps 2 • Our most booked suite! This suite includes exclusive use of the billiards room for 8 hours, plus an adjoining hotel room. This is the most asked for suite in The Mansion for events, as you can sleep (if you choose) or play billiards on a $150,000 classic billiards table." << via o mansion's absurdly bad www
pete_dushenski: ;;calc 4000/240
gribble: 16.6666666667
pete_dushenski: so a qntra a week basically. hmm.
pete_dushenski: ;;calc 109/16.6666666667
gribble: 6.53999999999
pete_dushenski: something about turkeys (tm)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12696 @ 0.00072959 = 9.2629 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1188/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/ << such lulzy bets history.
assbot: BitBet - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 14,000 before 18th September :: 4.39 B (9%) on Yes, 46.99 B (91%) on No | closing in 18 hours 18 minutes | weight: 3`215 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5ArQc )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073425 = 4.2587 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.0007294 = 6.1999 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-TURBO-X50-/221870469237 << air cooled porsche lulz. at $500k, this 18-year-old 911 turbo x50 is pricier than absolutely everything the firm sells today save the 918, which is a 1/918 unit HYPERCAR that retails for $850k
assbot: Porsche 911 Turbo X50 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1XA83kX )
mats: what does ebays cut look like
pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. it's paypal i'd worry about. ☟︎
mats: looks like 2.9%
mats: jesus l0l
pete_dushenski cannot imagine $500k pp transfer
pete_dushenski: i imagine a wire transfer would be the only reasonable course of action here
mats: 15k for flipping a buncha bits in a db
mats: what a robbery
pete_dushenski: ya, makes remittances look cheap. so where's the fat rich white guy sitting in his newoldporsche on the phoundation's website ?
mats: hes on the casting couch holding the cam for that woman in front of the whiteboard
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/VIwv3Qf.png << Advertisements for xt now in the bitcoin subreddit
deedbot-: [Qntra] Mozilla Vulnerability Hoard Compromised For a Year - http://qntra.net/2015/09/mozilla-vulnerability-hoard-compromised-for-a-year/
davout: thestringpuller: haha such nice troll
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0007294 = 5.6164 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00073751 = 15.6352 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00073073 = 3.544 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00073585 = 14.4595 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14963 @ 0.00072879 = 10.9049 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: lol win.
punkman: pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. << ebay still takes 10% fee on final price (up to $1k or something). and that's before paypal fees. not for cars though. ☟︎
punkman: which is why I sometimes find sellers website/email and transact away from ebay
punkman: for a while you'd see items priced $0.1 and rest of price in shipping costs, which worked to minimize fees.
punkman: new Firefox feature on new tab page http://i.imgur.com/A9Ngwxw.png
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LT1iUW )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8960 @ 0.00073347 = 6.5719 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/09/05/0/
assbot: A history of modern init systems (1992-2015) ... ( http://bit.ly/1NkWpqH )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00073129 = 7.642 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: http://www.archdaily.com/395363/india-s-forgotten-stepwells
assbot: India's Forgotten Stepwells | ArchDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1JOgwKb )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00073129 = 9.5799 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00073459 = 7.199 BTC [+]
punkman: http://www.techworm.net/2015/08/unhackable-version-of-windows-built-by-israeli-security-company.html
assbot: Unhackable Version of Windows Built By Israeli Security Company ... ( http://bit.ly/1JOjEWc ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: lolrly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00073129 = 7.8248 BTC [-]
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265113 <<< can buy porsche with paypal account? i'll take 10! ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 06:01:17; pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. it's paypal i'd worry about.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00073459 = 2.2038 BTC [+]
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265145 <<< This I got to see. Thanks jooz for the morning lulz. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 10:11:16; assbot: Unhackable Version of Windows Built By Israeli Security Company ... ( http://bit.ly/1JOjEWc )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14089 @ 0.00073811 = 10.3992 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.0007313 = 18.4288 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21167 @ 0.0007298 = 15.4477 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: oh for crying out loud.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell Belxjander you haven't actually fixed your connection.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4033 @ 0.00072695 = 2.9318 BTC [-]
shinohai: Did that n6 guy who was trying to build gentoo and get in wot ever come back with a new name?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7080 @ 0.00073918 = 5.2334 BTC [+] {3}
danielpbarron: shinohai, yes and he's a Eulora player now
shinohai: Oh cool danielpbarron glad he got up and running finally
punkman: http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/09/navy-cyber-sailors-notional-computers/
assbot: Fleet Cyber Sailors Train On 'Notional Computers' ... ( http://bit.ly/1EN9DcR )
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-09-2015#1264466 <-- absolutely positively the case, ty. What, do you think a starfaring person would travel light years, collect protons, return home? ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 06-09-2015 22:29:25; trinque: or what, if aliens landed, you think they'd want some kind of cultural exchange, rather than to scrape whatever they like out of the earth's crust and ocean, then depart?
funkenstein_: For a prompt to imagine how this might work, see "Accelerondo" - Charles Stross (megabook)
jurov: are dns samples "cultural exchange"? ☟︎
jurov: *dna
kakobrekla: only if the impregnate you
funkenstein_: yes any program
kakobrekla: they
funkenstein_: haha :)
punkman: funkenstein_: maybe cultural exchange will involve getting fucked by tentacles for the next 10,000 years
funkenstein_: as to whether the defenseless, or any item at all, has value- see open market for that
funkenstein_: if you don't see the value: resell
punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835 ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: ESR Writes on "Surprised By Wealth" - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcd2q )
assbot: I have a Patreon page ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcaDY )
funkenstein_: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8
assbot: dpaste: 3BKKJB8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcceY )
deedbot-: Bad URL or network outage.
funkenstein_: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8
assbot: dpaste: 3BKKJB8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcceY )
deedbot-: Bad URL or network outage.
kakobrekla: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcrXA )
deedbot-: rejected: 1
kakobrekla: see
kakobrekla: imp0st0r!
funkenstein_: lol
funkenstein_: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3BKKJB8.txt ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENcrXA )
deedbot-: rejected: 1
jurov: wtf did i read
funkenstein_: a proof that something has value is an offer to pay for said thing
punkman: what's the thing, arawak slavegirls?
funkenstein_: what am i doing wrong with the deedbot?
kakobrekla: looks like it either the key or the message
shinohai: https://i.imgur.com/gWst8Wp.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENhd7t )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3379 @ 0.0007372 = 2.491 BTC [-] {2}
funkenstein_: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3X4MQ12.txt ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENmwDI )
deedbot-: rejected: 1
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10918 @ 0.00072775 = 7.9456 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu reboot system boot 2.6.32-431.el6.x Mon Sep 7 00:30 - 10:01 (09:31) AND reboot system boot 2.6.32-431.el6.x Mon Sep 7 08:44 - 10:01 (01:17) ---- TWICE
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: TWICE, MOTHERFUCKERS
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu that box is a titanic disgrace not only to s.nsa, but bisp. every penny you pay for it is a penny given to a scammer who is laughing at us
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai weeps for the loss of phuctor, hopes the perps responsible reap karma.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu WITH MULTI-HOUR DOWN TIMES
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: a little bird held that power switch down, aha
asciilifeform: fucking cosmic rays, aha
fluffypony: I had a box at a DC that rebooted every few hours
fluffypony: I reported it as a hardware error 4 times, they kept telling me it can't be, it must be my configuration
fluffypony: so I dropped them and moved to a different host
fluffypony: haven't had a reboot since
asciilifeform: fluffypony: i have a box in an american dc with ~6+ year uptime.
asciilifeform: this is NORMAL
fluffypony: yup
shinohai: I am of the mind this isn't pure technical gremlins at work, considering the project.
asciilifeform: no shit.
asciilifeform: i will also note that i know a fella with a box shelved right next to mine (diametric) and his has not gone down even once.
pete_dushenski: "China's foreign currency reserves shrunk by $93.9 billion to hit $3.56 trillion at August-end, the largest monthly drop on record, according to reports."
pete_dushenski: "PBOC had stepped up its foreign exchange intervention to $122 billion in August from about $50 billion in July."
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265131 << huh. this i did not know. crazy. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 08:11:53; punkman: pete_dushenski: ebay just sells flat-rate ads. << ebay still takes 10% fee on final price (up to $1k or something). and that's before paypal fees. not for cars though.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265148 << can buy anything with paypal ! it's like money for the internet ! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 10:35:05; cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265113 <<< can buy porsche with paypal account? i'll take 10!
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265151 << coming to a bank branch near you. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 11:07:59; shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265145 <<< This I got to see. Thanks jooz for the morning lulz.
shinohai: I must obtain a copy of this unhackable windows, otherwise it is as mythical as North Korean unicorns to me.
pete_dushenski: "“Sailors kept downloading terabyte upon terabyte of porn, often filled with malware,” he added. “One sailor even managed to get his ‘harpoon’ stuck in a USB port.”"
pete_dushenski: shinohai: unhackable winbloze is as much of a joke as ^
pete_dushenski: “We are confident that NOTs will mold our sailors into cyber warriors,” Turing asserted. “By using their imaginations, we can train them on state of the art or next gen systems right away.” “It’s a whole lot better than the Windows 3.1 systems we actually have,” Turing added. “That’s for darn sure.”
shinohai: Harpoon in USB port LOLZ
pete_dushenski: ok 'duffelblog' ain't half bad
pete_dushenski: nice find, punkman
pete_dushenski: "For Sale: AGM-114K Hellfire Missile, Slightly Damaged. Asking $1000 OBO. Location: Fort Drum, NY"
pete_dushenski: "Lockheed Upbeat Despite F-35 Losing Dogfight To Red Baron"
pete_dushenski: "REPORT: Female Ranger Grads Going To Crush So Much Fucking Pussy This Weekend"
pete_dushenski: "Odierno: Taco Tuesday Only Thing Holding This Damn Country Together"
pete_dushenski: http://www.duffelblog.com/
assbot: Duffel Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1XBOubO )
shinohai: I know I am a heartless bastard but this makes me laff: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11509101&ref=NZH_FBpage ☟︎
assbot: The big passport scam: Pakistanis dumping IDs to become Syrian - World - NZ Herald News ... ( http://bit.ly/1XBOFnz )
shinohai starts selling Syrian passports for BTC
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265204 << dude, funkenstein_, sometimes you make no goddam sense. mebbe i'm an idiot and i cannot grasp the heights of your insight, but it seems altogether more like that you've got a bad case of shannonitis. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 13:36:43; funkenstein_: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3X4MQ12.txt
pete_dushenski: !s shannoniser
assbot: 0 results for 'shannoniser' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=shannoniser
asciilifeform: !s shannonizer
assbot: 28 results for 'shannonizer' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=shannonizer
pete_dushenski: aha
pete_dushenski: ;;google site:trilema.com shannonizer
gribble: Racists and the racist idea on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2015/racists-and-the-racist-idea/>; Look what the spam dragged in! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2015/look-what-the-spam-dragged-in/>; Causes and purposes on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/>
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265249 << related >> http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/09/eventual-consequences.html ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 14:35:48; shinohai: I know I am a heartless bastard but this makes me laff: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11509101&ref=NZH_FBpage
assbot: ClubOrlov: Eventual Consequences ... ( http://bit.ly/1XBQtNj )
asciilifeform: 'For example, there is the refugee problem, which seems to be affecting all the countries that bombed, invaded or otherwise disrupted the countries that are now causing the refugee crisis. It never seemed to dawn on the highly compensated eurocratic morons that helping the US empire to destroy Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and Yemen, and sow chaos all over the Middle East would result in a torrent of humans deluging their sh
asciilifeform: ores. And now they are reduced to explaining at the top of their lungs how the refugee crisis has nothing at all to do with their foreign policy.'
shinohai: Ah! Very good post, and true. Yet no one sees this as consequence.
pete_dushenski: "no one could've predicted a plane being used like a bomb"
pete_dushenski: "A man sexually harassed by his boss at a Wellington hostel has been awarded more than $35,000 after being sacked for complaining about the treatment."
pete_dushenski: "Mr Singh said Mr NarayaNasamy, also known as Robbie Nara, sexually harassed him by sending him explicit text messages, including one produced during the ERA hearing that said "I need to have sexs with u soon"."
shinohai: "I need to have buttsecks with u soon."
pete_dushenski: "-love, the guy who signs your paychecks"
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: my blog is getting there. almost ready to be seen by da public.
pete_dushenski: respek
thestringpuller: There will be a big shoutout to you there.
pete_dushenski: :D
thestringpuller: "This goes out to the guy with the Jew fro" then you have to distinguish between you and ben_vulp`
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: my friend showed me a video from jay lenos garage, in particular this hot rod that was built froma 12 cylinder tank engine.
pete_dushenski: car design used to be very much an art form
pete_dushenski: and there was much more cross-over between car design and military equipment design
pete_dushenski: so tanks, airplanes had more influence over cars, particularly the racing sort
pete_dushenski: this was true as far back as voisin and citroen. google andre lefebvre sometime. guy was a crossover genius.
pete_dushenski: mercedes' domination of f1 in the 1950s was also a result of their ww2 airplane prowess
pete_dushenski: today, of course, cars are a cross between dishwashers and smartphonez
pete_dushenski: http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/photo_04-09-2015_13_22_48.jpg?itok=fjZdkrJk << 1912 lorrain dietrich 'vieux charles iii' with 15.1L four-banger
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXKiA6 )
pete_dushenski: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-concours-elegance/2015-concours-elegance-show-report-and-gallery << moar obscure and fascinating old metal from days gone by.
assbot: 2015 Concours of Elegance show report and gallery | Autocar ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXKtLA )
pete_dushenski: http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/photo_05-09-2015_15_55_21.jpg?itok=yeUFIKLx << Delahaye Type 165 Touring Cabriolet commissioned by the French government, from the days when gov knew how to spend money.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXKzmA )
pete_dushenski: http://images.cdn.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/files/styles/gallery_slide/public/images/car-reviews/first-drives/legacy/photo_05-09-2015_15_55_08.jpg?itok=6g3zyqJP << same delahaye
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JP1unb )
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blastolene_Special << this is the car I was shown
pete_dushenski: obscenely regal proportions on that thing. 'pontoon fenders' doesn't begin to describe that delahaye. and those running boards !
shinohai: Gawd that is a sexy automobile
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: omgerd that's insane.
pete_dushenski: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/international-automotive-scene/528091d1302166419-hot-rod-devils-blastolene-brothers-02_lenotankcar.jpg << leno + blastolene special at what appears to be pebble beach concours
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXL1Bc )
thestringpuller: yea that's the one. thing is huge as fuck.
thestringpuller: i love the 12 cylinders. 2 gallons to the mile!!! jkjk
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2012/5/6/Jay-Leno-Reveals-1000hp-1975-Custom-Plymouth-Duster-7708686/ << this is the other car we were watching stories about last night
shinohai: Is China srsly trying to blow itself up? http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/blast-reported-at-chemical-plant-in-eastern-china ☟︎
assbot: Blast reported at chemical plant in eastern China, East Asia News & Top Stories - The Straits Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXLhAe )
pete_dushenski: shinohai: china's not that monolithic
pete_dushenski: what 'self' ?
pete_dushenski: there's internal turmoil, certainly in northwest where teh islamists reside. so 'accidents' can happen, but then again so too can accidents
pete_dushenski: sometimes there are patterns, sometimes mere coincidence and the actual reporting of otherwise hush-hush events make it appear as if there are patterns
shinohai: Oh yeah, I am sure there are lots of "accidents" that never make the media.
trinque: ;;later tell funkenstein_ feed it your pubkey as ascii-armor first
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: I can sync them from assbot only if they're on SKS, and that one didn't appear to be, unless I'm coffee-deficient at the moment
trinque: I also have no fucking idea what I read.
punkman: trinque: but assbot gets them from SKS
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00073857 = 12.7034 BTC [+]
trinque: punkman: yeah I'm telling him to either upload the key or feed it directly into deedbot-
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.0007392 = 3.8808 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8l11q9hsJM << “I don't think any of us—especially those five people—want to be the high priests of Bitcoin. We need to find a new way of governing—a new way of coming to decisions and have everyone be happy with the process and the decisions that are reached.” ☟︎
assbot: EB94 – Gavin Andresen: On The Blocksize And Bitcoin's Governance - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNigAV )
pete_dushenski: “If you go back in time, it was simple. It was whatever Satoshi decided.”
pete_dushenski: still simple today, gavin. b-a decideth.
pete_dushenski doesn't recommend wasting 80 mins of precious life watching gavin derp on podcast. just for historical reference and record. ☟︎
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3968 @ 0.00073283 = 2.9079 BTC [-]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: photos?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264747 << forbidden city ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 02:04:29; *: asciilifeform in zombie city
ben_vulpes: aok found photos
ben_vulpes: omg the unrelenting stream of kitsch
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9100 @ 0.00073227 = 6.6637 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14862 @ 0.0007311 = 10.8656 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00072774 = 4.512 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00073296 = 4.3245 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: re: shannonitis: https://www.amazon.com/review/R1LQTXOW0OMON/ref=pe_1098610_137716200_cm_rv_eml_rv0_rv
assbot: Amazon.com: John Young "Cryptome"'s review of Purity: A Novel ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPdvJB )
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265301 << ahahahaha cosmic rayz!!! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 15:42:59; shinohai: Is China srsly trying to blow itself up? http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/blast-reported-at-chemical-plant-in-eastern-china
ascii_field: 'he ran into my knife! he ran into my knife, TEN TIMES!!'
ascii_field: (tm) (r)
ascii_field: this was what, 5th in 3 weeks ?
ascii_field: kosmik rayz.
ascii_field: 'blow itself up' my shiny metal arse.
BingoBoingo: 'INsert Girder'
punkman: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-debian-is-trying-to-shut-down-the-cia-and-make-software-trustworthy-again ☟︎
assbot: How Debian Is Trying to Shut Down the CIA and Make Software Trustworthy Again | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPdYLP )
ascii_field: punkman: what, you thought #b-a was exempt from embrace&extenduish ?
ascii_field: 'Reproducible builds are already a staple of Bitcoin and the Tor Project.' << ahahahahahahaha
ascii_field: bitcoin.
punkman: yep
punkman: that line caught my eye
ascii_field: carefully avoiding to mention ~which~ bitcoin
punkman: also I have serious doubts re: "According to Lunar, 83 percent of Debian packages are now built reproducibly, and more join the party every day."
ascii_field: 'Diverse Double-Compiling' << little problem here. THERE IS ONLY ONE C COMPILER worth a cow's fart
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00072638 = 34.4304 BTC [-] {5}
ascii_field: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/why-security-experts-are-using-an-ancient-email-format-in-2015 << related
assbot: Why Security Experts Are Using an Ancient Email Format in 2015 | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPeoll )
ascii_field: '"Just because I use mutt doesn't mean I enjoy it," he wrote in an email. "I hate it. I wish there were something better, but I've not found it yet."'
pete_dushenski: http://gizmodo.com/ashley-madison-code-shows-more-women-and-more-bots-1727613924 << botlulz
assbot: Ashley Madison Code Shows More Women, and More Bots ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPfm0P )
pete_dushenski: 'in the database dump from Impact Team, all we can see is the ample evidence that male users were contacted by bots pretty much constantly. Those data fields tell us that 20 million men out of 31 million received bot mail, and about 11 million of them were chatted up by an automated “engager.”'
pete_dushenski: apparently ashley madison was yet another mommy blogger/daddy investor 'make money while you sleep' scam ☟︎
pete_dushenski: no one wanted to have affairs, just to ~feel~ like they might possibly consider it.
pete_dushenski: be a secret agent, use pgp (tm)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15742 @ 0.00072526 = 11.417 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: "Once the man struck up a conversation, the bot would say things like this: "Hmmmm, when I was younger I used to sleep with my friend’s boyfriends. I guess old habits die hard although I could never sleep with their husbands." and "I’m sexy, discreet, and always up for kinky chat. Would also meet up in person if we get to know each other and think there might be a good connection. Does this sound intriguing?
pete_dushenski: ” It’s unclear what else the engager would say—either the bots really are this simple, or further chat phrases weren’t in the code. Most likely, based on what I saw from other bot code, the bot would urge the man to pay credits to talk further."
ascii_field: snore. orlovian deer/hunter symbiosis.
ascii_field: these schmucks ~demanded~ to be scammed.
punkman: "really are this simple" yeah you don't need more than that
ascii_field: the real enabler is usg, of course, because not just anyone gets to harvest the chump armies. ☟︎
ascii_field: it is a crown concession, like petro-drilling the coast
pete_dushenski: was xtian church before them
punkman: ashleymadison is a crown concession?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1264646 << see thread ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 00:32:12; mircea_popescu: <shinohai> What kind of poppycock is that? Won't hire me if I have been negative online. << it's not hiring as much as living wage layer two. do you want to be like the niggers, getting free pills and welfare checks ? that's living wage layer zero. move to the ghetto. are you instead happy with the minimum wage, tax rebates, etc bullshit ? that's layer one, move to suburbia.
pete_dushenski: 'usg "hires" you to lap up the welfare faucet drippings.'
pete_dushenski: ok mebbe that's not the most relevant thread...
pete_dushenski: punkman: in any event, argument being, there's no u.s. anything without crown say-so
punkman: pete_dushenski: I don't buy that the crown has any control whatsoever against the botmasters
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: punkman: it was a multimillion above-board corp. with legal team, almost-ipo, etc
ascii_field: you don't get to be that in usa without some apparatchik support.
pete_dushenski: punkman: doesn't have to be direct string-pulling, can be 2nd, 3rd order
ascii_field: or the first patent troll who comes along will eat you for lunch. or ceo busted for 'irregularities' of which every man on u.s. soil who ever so much as smelled a seven-figure sum is guilty as all hell; etc
pete_dushenski: not like obama has time between youtube videos with 'viral stars' to write scripts for ashmad bots
fluffypony: damn the Chinese are getting desperate for profit: http://shanghaiist.com/2015/09/06/fake_paper_rice.php ☟︎
assbot: Fake rice made with paper found in Guangdong: Shanghaiist ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPh2HQ )
ascii_field: 'Earlier this year, reports emerged about plastic rice sold on the Chinese market making its way across Asia. This fake rice was a more edible-sounding mix of potatoes, sweet potatoes and delicious synthetic resin. According to Oryza.com, plastic-tainted rice grains remain hard after being boiled, and the soup made by it forms a very unappetizing plastic sheath 'that burns like plastic' when heated up.'
ascii_field: pure gold.
pete_dushenski: gnarly
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265007 << see also. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 04:00:49; mircea_popescu: but that's all gone now. people aren't willing to kill each other so they'll get packed.
punkman: ascii_field: I meant the non-US botmasters, ashleymadison sure, just like any other US corp
ascii_field: poor cn orcs haven't had their buffett and wrigley's corp. yet, have not invented reasonably food-like industrial waste, yet.
ascii_field: give'em time.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265178 << how much of that 36M did he ever really take home ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 12:55:11; punkman: then http://news.slashdot.org/story/99/12/10/0821224/esr-writes-on-surprised-by-wealth >> and now http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6835
ascii_field has seen esr in the flesh on several occasions, and the man is an INSUFFERABLE braggart and confabulator
ascii_field: but money was never one of the things he bragged of.
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: did you two chat or just 'see across room'
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: just heard him talk
ascii_field: i personally have nothing to say to him.
pete_dushenski: fair 'nuff
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00073529 = 8.6029 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00072474 = 16.5603 BTC [-] {3}
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: by the time esr could legally sell his shares in 'lnux' (june 2000), the share price had tanked from $240 at end of ipo day to ~$40.
pete_dushenski: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geeknet#/media/File:LNUX.png
assbot: Geeknet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EOyEEA )
ascii_field: that's still a few M
ascii_field: where did it go ?
pete_dushenski: twas 15 years ago...
pete_dushenski: of living in usistan
ascii_field: so?
pete_dushenski: ;;calc 240/40*36000000
gribble: 216000000
ascii_field: ??
ascii_field: you prolly meant,
ascii_field: ;;calc 40/240*36000000
gribble: 6000000
pete_dushenski: quite
pete_dushenski: ;;calc 6000000/15
gribble: 400000
pete_dushenski: i dunno what to say, the guy's not a money manager
ascii_field: to put it mildly.
pete_dushenski: him and every other lottery winner/pro athlete
ascii_field: but i think most folks could avoid bleeding 400K/yr out of their arse
ascii_field: without really trying
pete_dushenski: most folks ? haha. hardly.
ascii_field: the most likely thing is that the man INVESTED!!1111!!111 it
trinque: ahaha I just got an e-mail from "pantera capital" addressed to [FirstName] inviting me to apply for funding. ☟︎☟︎
ascii_field: like most of the early btc holders did
ascii_field: trinque: make sure to also buy v14gr4!!!11 from them
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: because what else ? take little, regular sips from pool
trinque: lol, no kidding
trinque: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: and to ransom their lost prince.
trinque: maybe I can get someone to tie a laptop to his scrotum
ascii_field: no deal until tied.
ascii_field: elementary.
pete_dushenski: trinque: try eth long guy from denmark or w/e
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00072442 = 9.6348 BTC [-] {2}
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: the point being, most people haven't the foggiest clue how to make a dime last a day, much less how to turn it into 15c.
ascii_field: terrible example
pete_dushenski: mkay do better
mats: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34173544
assbot: Yemen crisis: Qatar 'deploys 1,000 troops' - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNzG0o )
trinque: "commence payments" sold my email to pantera
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: see my ancient review of mpex for instance.
trinque: me.commence@domain.org
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: are you saying you're 'most people' now ?
ascii_field: it is not hard to turn 100K into 200K
ascii_field: but quite impossible to turn 10c into 20c.
ascii_field: especially and particularly if you need 9 of the 10 cents to make rent.
pete_dushenski: aha. very reasonable counter-point. but my original point still stands because you're changing the premises now. esr didn't have 10c and need 9 to make rent, same for lottery/athletics winners. they had millions and failed to turn it into anything other than heartache and dust
shinohai: So I will take the remaining 1c and turn it into twopence
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: aha, i personally have no idea what he did with it. perhaps he sent it to nigeria.
ascii_field: or invested in best phriend's 'sure to make megabux!!11!!11' sv idiocy ☟︎
ascii_field: (but i repeat myself)
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: so maybe it's 'not hard' to turn xxxxxx into 2xxxxxx for you or i, but there's a mountain of evidence to suggest that this is a reasonably rare skillset
pete_dushenski: which pretty much sums up http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/01/american-social-mobility-is-really-just-luck-says-data/
assbot: American “social mobility” is really just luck, says data. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNArGT )
ascii_field: at the very least, it is not hard to still have the 100k at the end of the day
ascii_field: this merely requires doing nothing.
BingoBoingo: But ESR has(had?) wife
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: doing nothing is the hardest !
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: fuck knows, maybe paid for cunt transplant or what
BingoBoingo: Still wife is a money leak.
ascii_field: why?
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: as to esr's 100k, to quote "Yes, we do have some savings and stock. No, I don’t want to tap them, because thank you I do not want to be on the dole or dead of starvation and exposure when I’m really old. "
pete_dushenski: prolly 100k in there if not more
pete_dushenski: " It’s not going to make much of a dent in (for example) medical insurance, thanks to the statist bastards who’ve driven health-care costs into the stratosphere through their incessant meddling. (They cost my wife her job, too – that’s been psychologically rough on her.)" << moar esr from punkman's link ☟︎
ascii_field: 1) out of what, 6m 2) likely denominated in usg junk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00073529 = 2.6838 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: 1) this is average roi for 'make money while you sleep' 2) what else ?
ascii_field: i must echo the canonical http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-07-2015#1218232 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 15:37:38; mircea_popescu: i don't solve problems. i just throw away other people's solutions.
ascii_field: i for one sincerely hope that esr lives long enough to starve; and that i live long enough to watch.
ben_vulpes will someday wear esrs mantle of "attached self to prominent open source project"
pete_dushenski: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COUFQRgVAAIx8mH.png << highest 1 bedroom median rents in usistan
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNBtCM )
pete_dushenski: ^ you're only in 5th, ascii_field
ascii_field: esr is an especially noxious worm for having the temerity to pretend that his career owes nothing to usg
pete_dushenski: not that $2,110/mo isn't still obscene
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: i don't live in the dc city walls properly speaking
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: but in nearly p.g. county, md
ascii_field: *nearby
pete_dushenski: right, '2 hour drive'
ascii_field: 1-2 hr to montgomery county
ascii_field: generally i stay out of dc other than to see museums and miscellaneous oddities
pete_dushenski: i need to make my way to dc's museums one of these years.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: highly recommended. so long as you stay out of the 'modern art' claptrap pits, you will see 'america as it once was'
ascii_field: see the goodies before they get mysteriously desaparecido'd (sold for hard currency to cn)
pete_dushenski: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/09/07/1535221/why-biking-injuries-and-deaths-are-spiking-in-the-us << heh. can't afford cars so taking bicycles. 'researchers' blame 'lance armstrong effect'
assbot: Why Biking Injuries and Deaths Are Spiking In the US - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JNCpa2 )
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: i can travel to china just as well, but dc is marginally more convenient. for now.
ben_vulpes: cn? hard currency?
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: why do you assume that the buyer will exhibit the goods ?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: for food, if you like.
pete_dushenski checks yeg to bwi. $376 round trip with stop-over in ord.
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: posterity ?
ascii_field: l0l
pete_dushenski: plaque reading 'on generous loan from his greatness xixixi'
pete_dushenski: same as row
pete_dushenski: this custom doesn't translate ?
ascii_field: the land of plastic rice gives a fuck about 'posterity' like a dog about beets.
pete_dushenski: hey, maybe beets are fuckable.
punkman: only if cook them
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00073699 = 14.8135 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0007384 = 7.827 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15650 @ 0.00073329 = 11.476 BTC [-] {3}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/08/feds-cyberbullying-reverses-cops-convictions-for-shooting-unarmed-people << lulzy
assbot: Feds’ cyberbullying reverses cops’ convictions for shooting unarmed people | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1M6xN4O )
ascii_field: 'In the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina back in 2005, five former New Orleans police officers were sentenced to six to 65 years in prison in connection to on-the-job deadly shootings of unarmed civilians. But recently, these five officers had their convictions set aside by a federal appeals court. Why? Federal prosecutors' anonymous online comments posted underneath local news accounts of the officers' ongoing
ascii_field: 2011 trial "contributed to the mob mentality potentially inherent in instantaneous, unbridled, passionate online discourse," the court said. In light of that, the appellate court found a fair trial wasn't possible.' ☟︎
pete_dushenski: this is like saying that fair trials aren't possible because putin ate a ham&cheese croissant for breakfast.
pete_dushenski: i seriously don't understand this shit.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: summary is, usg does whatever the fuck it wants
pete_dushenski: guess so eh
pete_dushenski: at least as far as prosecuting itself goes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00073872 = 10.9331 BTC [+] {3}
ascii_field: as for turning those cops loose, it is part of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259456 campaign. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 04:15:38; asciilifeform: the discreditation of local police apparatus, for its eventual demolition and replacement by unified fed gendarmerie, is going on schedule.
mats: i have yet to read about guardsmen shooting looters during katrina in the news
jurov: thestringpuller: mats: pete_dushenski: trinque: BingoBoingo: etc. coinbr back up, monthly fee for august waived
mats: and i know for a fact this happened
pete_dushenski: jurov: cheers !
mats: excellent
ascii_field: mats: you also will not often read about orcs shooting at ambulances during katrina. which also happened.
BingoBoingo: Congrats jurov
assbot: [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 5500 @ 0.00040427 = 2.2235 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5892 @ 0.0007312 = 4.3082 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: so, i discovered a recipe for healthy teeth.
kakobrekla: find yourself a hot dentist. ☟︎
pete_dushenski: this is news ?
mats: ascii_field: understand, this invokes memories of 'kent state' and the usual fears of us .mil operating domestically
kakobrekla: news to me!
pete_dushenski has had hot dentist for better part of a decade
pete_dushenski: tall, blonde, young...
kakobrekla: aha
pete_dushenski: kakobrekla still, wd !
kakobrekla: until now i was always serviced by men. what a mistakea to makea.
pete_dushenski: men for ortho, womenz for regular dentistry is best balance in my experience
pete_dushenski has never seen endo, perio, other specialists, doesn't know
mats: you would think americans would care. southerners in particular are perennially afraid of obama directing troops to steal their firearms, kill them, etc...
pete_dushenski: oh, and men for maxillofacial surgery (wisdom teef)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00073182 = 13.7216 BTC [+]
ascii_field: mats: the way it works is, there are precisely two kinds of permitted mass media in usa: 1) usg 2) usg crank bait ☟︎
ascii_field: !s crank bait
assbot: 25 results for 'crank bait' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=crank+bait
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21917 @ 0.00072407 = 15.8694 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: discussion of 'fed troops coming' is permitted strictly in the latter; and strictly in conjunction with discussions of martians coming, and shooting mind control rays
ascii_field: classic example of this algo being what happened with the '9-11 truth' folks.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49550 @ 0.00072136 = 35.7434 BTC [-] {2}
ascii_field: the choice permitted is between the official narrative and martians.
ascii_field: strictly, strictly this.
BingoBoingo: !up bitstein
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00071988 = 19.2928 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: !t m s.qntr
assbot: [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0.00040427 / 0.00040427 / 0.00040427 (5500 shares, 2.22 BTC), 7D: 0.00038573 / 0.00038753 / 0.00040427 (60100 shares, 23.29 BTC), 30D: 0.00027949 / 0.00037942 / 0.00040427 (75572 shares, 28.67 BTC)
jurov: what happens when new shares are delayed for a week!
BingoBoingo: Old shares go to the moon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7076 @ 0.00071782 = 5.0793 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9612 @ 0.00071659 = 6.8879 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.00071545 = 15.6326 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: !up analmaster
analmaster: hello
ascii_field: welcome analmaster
analmaster: the master of anus's
ascii_field: find your pgp key
analmaster: has arrived
analmaster: yes i had it burried deep
analmaster: in a special cavity
ascii_field: analmaster is my neighbour in the uranium minez ☟︎
mats: lol...
BingoBoingo: Ah, welcome
analmaster: thank you obama, for making it easier to enrich.
ascii_field: aka b00lcrap
ben_vulpes: amuse
assbot: cum into my harem
ascii_field: l0l!
analmaster: lol
analmaster: the assbot spews random crap?
BingoBoingo: assbot has buttitude
ascii_field: only when kakobrekla feels like it
analmaster: i see
analmaster: how does this work again
analmaster: !jailbat
kakobrekla: mp is offline
analmaster: he is a busy man
jurov: prepping eulora release
jurov: (imo)
BingoBoingo: http://apple.slashdot.org/story/15/09/07/1827205/steve-wozniak-steve-jobs-played-no-role-in-my-designs-for-the-apple-i-ii
assbot: Steve Wozniak "Steve Jobs Played No Role In My Designs For the Apple I & II" - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1UCW3ux )
ascii_field: 'Steve Jobs played no role at all in any of my designs of the Apple I and Apple II computer and printer interfaces and serial interfaces and floppy disks and stuff that I made to enhance the computers. He did not know technology. He’d never designed anything as a hardware engineer, and he didn’t know software. He wanted to be important, and the important people are always the business people. So that’s wh
ascii_field: at he wanted to do. The Apple II computer, by the way, was the only successful product Apple had for its first 10 years, and it was all done, for my own reasons for myself, before Steve Jobs even knew it existed.'
kakobrekla: how do you say, mega-un-surprise ?
ascii_field: afaik this was already public for eons.
trinque: yeah, I don't think anyone who is aware of tech thinks he invented anything
trinque: built a few very successful companies though
BingoBoingo: !up refferedbyloper
ascii_field: !s from:refferedbyloper
assbot: 1 results for 'from:refferedbyloper' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Arefferedbyloper
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
BingoBoingo: !up analmaster
analmaster: ah thank you
analmaster: you are a kind and gentle beast
pete_dushenski: http://www.gallup.com/poll/184730/americans-themselves-haves-nots.aspx << 38% of usians rate themselves as 'have-nots', up from 17% in 1988. capitalism won the cold war !1
assbot: More Americans See Themselves as "Haves" Than "Have-Nots" ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1SZSO )
shinohai: Wow, a real, live analmaster
analmaster: hello, ill be your anal master for the next 22 minutes
shinohai: Only 22 minutes?
shinohai: That will barely stretch my anus
pete_dushenski: 'this hour has 22 minutes' (tm)
analmaster: lol
analmaster: Hell would be heaven for me. All my life I've been with the have-nots. Over here, if you're a have-not, you're short of dough. If you're a have-not in hell, you're short of virtue. Once I get into hell, I'll start organizing the have-nots over there.
shinohai: Where is "over here" ?
analmaster: hell!
shinohai: !rated trinque
assbot: You have not rated trinque.
punkman: what do the "haves" in hell have?
shinohai: !rate trinque 1 Thanks for the help w/ Gentoo
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/fa971afe57c7ac01
shinohai: !v assbot:shinohai.rate.trinque.1:bfd69c9c9230ea2c46ba7c1722dc9b86bc5817f13192e63b9e9af4c0fddf43ba
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for trinque with note: Thanks for the help w/ Gentoo
analmaster: punkman: the haves in hell have contempt for jews.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00073 = 12.775 BTC [+]
shinohai: What constitutes a "have" vs. "have not" ?
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppfdhDBIohk << 'this hour has 22 minutes' sketch comedy show. national broadcasting at its most mediocre.
assbot: This Hour Has 22 Minutes - Canadian Mass(So Funny) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1Uy3i )
pete_dushenski: shinohai: 'poor' v. 'rich'
shinohai: Oh, then count me as "have not" though most of the time it is intentional, as I don't buy into American commercialism.
ascii_field: laugh at my poverty willya
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: meh. i think you sucked all the fun outta that game :P
ascii_field: l0l
pete_dushenski: analmaster: speaking of jooz. here's some markedly better canadian sketch comedy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvbvqYGgBqM
assbot: Salty Ham - Kids in the Hall - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1VcxA )
analmaster: ah kids in the hall
analmaster: reminds me of my youth
pete_dushenski: you grew up up north ?
analmaster: no they aired it in the states when i was a teen
pete_dushenski: aha
punkman just finished eating lentil stew and salty anchovies
shinohai: yummy
punkman: admittedly not the best idea at midnight
analmaster: is there a difference between lentil stew and lentil soup
punkman: analmaster: less liquid
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
analmaster: makes sense
analmaster: i love lentil soup, with some olive oil and herbamare
analmaster: you guys know the herbamare?
analmaster: a perverse western seasoning : https://img.thrivemarket.com/store/1200x/0/2/021718412169-1.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1W3OY )
davout: analmaster: looks interesting
analmaster: try it, you will never go back to sea salt.
shinohai: !up analmaster
analmaster: i am now shinohai's anal master for the next 29 minutes
analmaster: how shall we broceed
analmaster: ls
shinohai: Hmmm ... since it is a holiday put a sparkler in your anus and take pics for #bitcoin-assets
analmaster: hrm
shinohai: ^______________^
analmaster: that would work on july 4th
analmaster: but since its labor day, your anus is going to be doing all the work
shinohai: Might be a good idea to register your gpg key with assbot though, and eventually get rated so you can voice yourself.
ascii_field: shinohai: he was rated, aha, lost key
shinohai: ah
analmaster: a gpg key appears.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11772 @ 0.00073 = 8.5936 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/PdzPuTM.jpg ☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1XNHQ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5128 @ 0.00073726 = 3.7807 BTC [+]
analmaster: lol
analmaster: please provide some context ☟︎
analmaster: just some innocent interaxial play
shinohai: No context outside of being racist and damned funny.
BingoBoingo: Was that fluffypony?
fluffypony: HAH HAH
fluffypony: omg you guize
fluffypony: we have it in reverse now :-P
shinohai: xD
shinohai: Every time I see fluffypony, I can't help but think "Friendship is Magic" and all.
fluffypony: thanks shinohai, I'm taking that as a compliment :)
shinohai: Reddit bronies: https://youtu.be/t6023crXgIQ
assbot: My Little Brony Toy Commercial - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1K1ZjKf )
analmaster: ill never understand bronies
fluffypony: you and me both
punkman: http://ifonlyiweresochic.tumblr.com/post/101190496022/bio-prof-sex-chromosomes-determine-gender-me
assbot: oh so wonderful — Bio prof: sex chromosomes determine gender Me:... ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3qb0O )
analmaster: really?
analmaster: thats not what my teacher told me
ascii_field: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel http://www.sigsam.org/bulletin/articles/178/stoutemyer.pdf << some actual implementation details re: 'derive' & 'mulisp' ☟︎☟︎
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3qt7C )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
analmaster: my teacher said you can be whatever gender you want to be
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10949 @ 0.00071473 = 7.8256 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai: !up ascii_field
asciilifeform: !up analmaster
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9204 @ 0.00071473 = 6.5784 BTC [-]
pete_dushenski: http://36.media.tumblr.com/2910d740649b4c2cbc2163a27784ec21/tumblr_np90gtwvHD1qafppmo1_500.jpg << microaggressions, explained.
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K22ykI )
analmaster: im not racist
analmaster: i played soccer with a black kid at the bounce house
analmaster: the other day
pete_dushenski: did he score all the goals ?
analmaster: fuck no
analmaster: i dont let him score shit
analmaster: get him ready for a tough life of blackness
analmaster: listen a white lady clinching to their purse when a black person walks by is only natrual
analmaster: blacks commit like 50% of violent crimes in the states
analmaster: and they make up 12 % of the population
kakobrekla: bytes can indeed have color.
analmaster: can bits have color? ☟︎
ascii_field: !s what colour are your bits
assbot: 4 results for 'what colour are your bits' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=what+colour+are+your+bits
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18900 @ 0.00071457 = 13.5054 BTC [-] {3}
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2015#1265714 <<< asked gf, she said her bits are pink oc ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-09-2015 22:03:22; analmaster: can bits have color?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00071371 = 22.7673 BTC [-] {5}
pete_dushenski: analmaster: microaggression is supposed to be natural. like work, sex, and everything else villainised and illegalised by usg. sorta what monopoly on force means in praxis (monopoly on action)
kakobrekla: ascii_field do you always opt for british english variant (out of spite?)
ascii_field: reflex
ascii_field: it's the one i learned.
pete_dushenski: except shannoniZer
ascii_field: when i write article-length crud i usually go back and americanize
ascii_field: precisely because whiners.
analmaster: only half of america is a bunch of sensitive little bitches.
analmaster: pajama boys.
analmaster: https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/pajama-boy.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3uSHW )
analmaster: america in one picture.
pete_dushenski: !s lumbersexual
assbot: 0 results for 'lumbersexual' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=lumbersexual
pete_dushenski: ya, missing beard.
analmaster: shit
analmaster: im quite lumbersexual
analmaster: i happen to the the last remaining american to chop down > 1/4 acre with an axe in 2014.
ascii_field: ^ quite possibly.
analmaster: https://theuniversalspectator.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/pj-hitler.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1K25XA7 )
analmaster: har har
trinque: I get the sense that guy could've put an eyeball in orbit if he wanted.
trinque: !up ascii_field
pete_dushenski: "Lexus this month will begin offering a service through its Enform telematics system that will enable dealers to remotely look into a customer's check-engine light or other warning on the instrument panel. The service, Enform Service Connect, will be offered on all 2016 Lexus models" << what could possibly go wrong ? not like this'll be hacked six ways to sunday a la jeep uconnect.
pete_dushenski: in other car news, http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/09/dealer-swindled-6-billion-general-motors/
assbot: The Dealer Who Swindled $6 Billion From General Motors ... ( http://bit.ly/1K3wyRC )
pete_dushenski: "McNamara’s brilliant swindle was deliciously simple. It was based on one undeniable truth he learned from his years of owning a Buick-Pontiac-GMC dealership on Long Island: General Motors and GMAC were too incompetent and too bureaucratic to figure out that they were being scammed."
pete_dushenski: 'government motors' indeed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform alrighty, so i won't continue it then.
mircea_popescu: as jurov's not actually said anything re his theoretically present but upon examination inexistent connection or w/e it was, this leaves the problem of where to host open.
mircea_popescu: and if it stays open till early oct, nosuchlabs won't have a server until it gets resolved.
jurov: don't wait for me till i communicate it with my guys, of course
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for that matter, is it safe to shut down now ? you have backups and everything ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00071695 = 3.2621 BTC [+]
trinque: !up kdomanski
trinque: kdomanski: hi, who are you?
kdomanski: old frequenter who's been away
trinque: wb
kdomanski: have you guys heard about the whole opensource LGBT drama where a bunch of people wanted a guy out of and OSS project 'cause he said something politically incorrect on twitter?
kdomanski: *an
mats: this would not surprise anyone
trinque: kdomanski: yeah, the ruby thing? not that I don't expect this has happened many times
kdomanski: trinque: that one exactly
kdomanski: https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941
assbot: Transphobic maintainer should be removed from project · Issue #941 · opal/opal · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1QkREMj )
kdomanski: pages and pages of drama
kdomanski: popcorn advised
trinque: kdomanski: yeah, a guy I know more or less shouted "tranny hater!" at me for not caring about it
kdomanski: haha
kdomanski: I cound 7 occurences of the word "privilege"
trinque: the SJWs can have Ruby; it's a steaming pile of shit
kdomanski: +1
trinque: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel Conkeror has made its way into daily use; JS debugging tips? Best thing providing a JS REPL in Emacs? ☟︎
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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davout: trinque: ahem.
trinque: davout: wat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is to be backed up, for the last time, over the next couplea days.
davout: let's start a ruby flame war
trinque: davout: ruby is objectively butts. rebuttal? ☟︎
davout: i like the language, the community much much less
trinque: I've done some ruby; mostly just yelling
mats: http://colin.keigher.ca/2015/09/geotrustsymantec-has-revoked-all-ssl.html
assbot: Colin Keigher: Geotrust/Symantec has revoked all SSL certificates for .PW TLD domains ... ( http://bit.ly/1QkSQPI )
davout: trinque: it has unicorns installable as a convenient ruby gem
trinque: davout: the whimsy, which I blame on that "Why" guy, bleh
davout: "Is this what the other maintainers want to be reflected in the project? Will any transgender developers feel comfortable contributing?"
davout: ugh, transgender people either have something to contribute, or they don't, like the fucking rest of us
trinque: nah diversity is a kind of magic dust you sprinkle on your products, and "radical innovation" sprouts
kdomanski: trinque: you forgot "disrupting"
trinque: kdomanski: I am a white male; what do I know anyway?
davout: "Requesting contributions before being heard is a pretty low stab as well - you are basically saying that opinions gain worth with merit." <<< oh god
kdomanski: trinque: shame on you, check your privilege
trinque: it's still there.
trinque brb, food
davout: trinque: kek
kdomanski: "unless @elia is removed from the project, I cannot learn Ruby, and thus can't get a job in Ruby development"
shinohai: til you really don't need anything special to perform a DoS attack on reddit besides a script that constantly f5's the page.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00072104 = 12.1495 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai: !up kdomanski