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hdbuck: i look up from pool.sks-keyservers.net directly using the 0x… keys from the script
asciilifeform: hdbuck: please get my updated key from http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB98228A001ABFFC7 (and/or http://www.loper-os.org/pgp.asc )
mircea_popescu: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?search=adam+back&fingerprint=on&op=index << random example. not a single proper key in sight. fucktard.
mircea_popescu: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x9AF0C08E3C97CF0CCDC2F6E3201E1D0C00EDF5AB
polarbeard: here you are: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x11CC9042929D3682
ascii_butugychag: jurov: you can trivially do it right now, just walk all of sks, if the pubkey is - well - public, you can determine that someone rsa'd to it
assbot: Logged on 23-01-2016 14:31:04; mircea_popescu: well yes. 39 is the old ak/sks russian thing. nato has a bigger one.
mircea_popescu: well yes. 39 is the old ak/sks russian thing. nato has a bigger one. ☟︎
mod6: and additionally, this cuts out SKS.
ben_vulpes: re sks thread signed bundles of keys on everyone's websites is probably the best way to go
ben_vulpes: since sks is on the chopping block next, i imagine !register will eventually eat plaintext pubkeys.
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pgp.asc << updated, because sks must die
asciilifeform: -r loads from sks ?
asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/0DKPGAT << good; http://dpaste.com/1KG1EAY << evil (sks)
asciilifeform: so it would appear that sks has done something peculiar to my pubkey.
ascii_rear: fuck sks
phf: what i meant is something like this http://paste.lisp.org/display/304383. of course each execution of script creates a fresh gnupg keys folder, imports the wot, import from sks if we're going that way, does the operation, kills the gnupg folder
phf: i understand all that, and i was explaining that there's no conceptual integrity to it, as it stands. we have a .wot folder which is supposed to be a manually curated folder of <nick>.asc files. there were a few threads where mp and ascii argued that the folder should not be generated automatically (no sks or pre packaged tar files). so if one wants to build a rotor they need a .wot folder with pubkeys of all the foundation
mircea_popescu: sks is going away. has been, slowly like an avalanche of frozen sewage, but for years now.
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, various sks servs chronically down
asciilifeform: the new key was sent to several different sks boxen
asciilifeform: and are we really 'gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys FAB953C4'-ing ?
asciilifeform likes all of this with the very definite exception of the 'gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 0x......'
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=13-10-2015#1298016 << update: adam_obrien and i played golf this afternoon and chatted about pgp key-signing. in his excitement at discovering the command line tools, he tried out everything he could find (he's an enthusiastic kid!) and yes, signed my key. he was quite surprised to learn that this changed the key block on the sks etc servers.. fwiw ☝︎
ben_vulpes: that one can kill the sks?
ascii_field: (that anyone can take an arbitrarily-massive shit into sks)
ascii_field: it won't surprise me if this brings down sks as a thing.
ascii_field: of sks turdcannon 1.0
ascii_field: sks plops it in without asking ?
assbot: sks diddle - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1k2rQtU )
ascii_field: sks and mit - identical
assbot: dpaste: 3JJYZZW: sks.ask ... ( http://bit.ly/1X0jjFQ )
pete_dushenski: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x165749929F9A6BDD << this then.
pete_dushenski: eg. http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/key/0x165749929F9A6BDD != locally exported public key block above
mircea_popescu: did ytou get it from sks or export locally ?
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/contact/ << pgp public key block added. previously just had link to 'sks'.
phf: how does assbot handle key expirations? does it periodically download new key from sks or it downloads it if you try and use an expired key?
brg444: looks to be alive there? http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x4A0363951AFA090B6C221787E2F23DB84A63EC22
phf: https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x86AC5789F93ED2E7
punkman: trinque: but assbot gets them from SKS
trinque: I can sync them from assbot only if they're on SKS, and that one didn't appear to be, unless I'm coffee-deficient at the moment
ascii_field: also would be nice to NOT ignore the 5% or so of sks keys that have utf8-isms in'em
asciilifeform: we run out of sks long before this
mircea_popescu: it checks sks iirc.
mircea_popescu: https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x7FAB114267E4FA04 << sub 2048R/0FBEF185 2012-04-25
asciilifeform: (this is perhaps a good moment to point out that these dates mean little. unless someone in my wot has a very vintage copy of sks key collection that he's willing to swear to.)
mircea_popescu: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x4A0363951AFA090B6C221787E2F23DB84A63EC22 << doesn't seem to exist brg444
asciilifeform: http://sks.pkqs.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&search=0x18C09E865EC948A1 << it ?
mircea_popescu: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x95AD4E4BD126595B << and you're on sks alright.
kakobrekla: Varia_Varietatis it takes some time for key to be visible on sks, apart from that i think you might be hopping the wrong bot
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 11:41:31; mircea_popescu: and then $ gpg --keyserver sks-keyservers.net --send-key <KEYID> and $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-key <KEYID> where keyid you just copy from the line above.
asciilifeform: doesn't appear to be in sks
ascii_field: what is this nonsense with sks using ssl anyway
ascii_field: (from sks, for example)
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell n6 : can you extract and publish your public key as it resides on your machine, as opposed to whatever's on sks servers.
decimation: because the sks server will keep your revoked key forever
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose one day sks servers list a random key for you too ?
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: pgp.mit.edu was a gold mine for academic keys they may not have made the transition to sks. I retrieved manually though by schoool.
asciilifeform: from mit sks
scoopbot_revived: http://qntra.net/2015/05/phuctor-begins-processing-sks-keyserver-dump/
mod6: run this to pull ascii's key: `gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 0xB98228A001ABFFC7`
ascii_field: and readily admitted to having uploaded it himself, to sks
fluffypony: my company doesn't have a public key in SKS
fromphuctor: I'm pretty sure I uploaded it to sks years ago
ascii_field: fromphuctor: did you upload your key to sks? or did it live under your pillow, and you are telling us that someone stole it and uploaded it ?
fluffypony: SKS doesn't mandate that you remove data to keep in sync
ascii_field: fromphuctor: realize that anyone can submit anything to sks
ascii_field: fromphuctor: afaik nothing has ever disappeared from sks.
fromphuctor: if my info disappeared from sks, would it be removed from nosuchlabs
ascii_field: aha, virtually all of the pubkeys in phuctor come from sks.
trinque: fromphuctor: sks is the system which distributes public keys
jurov: fromphuctor: did you remove the info from SKS keyserver, too?
punkman: would be interesting to diff 2004 sks dump with 2015
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-07-2015#1199704 << he used ordinary sks, as far as i can tell. ☝︎
ascii_field: punkman: it appears to be in the sks data set
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 22:20:53; ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ERROR: certificate common name “keys.mattrude.com” doesn’t match requested host name “keyserver.mattrude.com” << when fetching fresh sks from dulap
ascii_field: (me trying to pull from sks somewhere)
assbot: Issue 7241 - go - /openpgp/armor: armored output differs from gpg or sks armored output - The Go Programming Language - Google Project Hosting ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvmVpz )
mircea_popescu: fromphuctor well atm it's working through a lengthy list of keys already extant on the sks servers.
decimation: how many sks keys exist?
asciilifeform: 292336/1298527 presently (sks set, walking backwards from end)
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-06-2015#1165236 << wait till they start uploading 'magic' keys for us to sks ☝︎
decimation: asciilifeform: are you saying google is gonna buy sks servers and slowly fade them away?
mircea_popescu: that "this is just how sks servers work"
asciilifeform: sks is more like usenet
asciilifeform: (since sks will apparently host -anything- purporting to be a key)
asciilifeform: has anyone contemplated collecting the set of sks keys which crash the parser ?
asciilifeform: but elementarily, all of them are expected to appear prior to the end of the churn of the sks dump circa last month
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 22:27:24; ascii_field: at this point it probably makes sense to churn the entire sks db for tuples of keys having same userid and date, and diff all said tuples.
asciilifeform: alphonse23_: there is a large and well-established network of public key servers. e.g., https://pgp.mit.edu and other sks
alphonse23_: oh, so if you want to store your pgp some where, so anyone can verify it's you, you upload it to sks
alphonse23_: I've never heard of the sks key server
asciilifeform: alphonse23_: instead we found that someone is uploading carefully modified versions of other people's keys to sks key server net
jurov: https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=bollstrom&fingerprint=on << can be got from here
ascii_field: https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=jbollstrom%40gmail.com
ascii_field: at this point it probably makes sense to churn the entire sks db for tuples of keys having same userid and date, and diff all said tuples. ☟︎
ascii_field: https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/key/0x342FA15421BD34F2 << diddled key for bollstrom; https://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net/key/0x4372F22E6DF53A6B >> his original
ascii_field: and it looks like somebody's ddosing sks ?
jurov: like EDDF63E ... and looks like it was submitted to phuctor directly, i can't find it on sks keyserver
asciilifeform: jurov: recall that nothing is ever removed from sks.