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assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 21:42:47; mircea_popescu: point was agreed to before i think. which is how the discussion re what pgp implementation must be like got started.
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 05:05:26; assbot: Ashley Madison Suicide: Man On Hacked List Kills Himself As Users Try To Remove Their Names From Ashley Madison Leaked List ... (
http://bit.ly/1LrWvMC )
assbot: Logged on 22-08-2015 21:23:49; mircea_popescu: there isn't a way for peasant to OWN picasso
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 00:32:28; mircea_popescu: punkman yes of course. just as soon as there's observable value everywhere a horde of shitheads with spoons are moving towards it.
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 00:42:58; mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform and whoever else is privately thinking of reimplementing pgp : one thing i'd dearly love would be the ability to encrypt not to X, but to "l1".
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 00:45:53; mircea_popescu: multiple UNSPECIFIED recipients.
mod6: asciilifeform: i can put up the individual .vpatch files for you to review tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: and the nonsense says that both the theoretical position you seek to defend is rubbish, and that the la times article you seek to defend it with is both rubbish and wouldn't defend it even if it weren't, and the it were defensible.
mircea_popescu: the slovaks are incompetent fuckwits. this, because there's so few of them it's cheaper to pretend like they're a country than to seek someone else's administration.
mircea_popescu: this resultd in their selling an item for less than it was worth. because they had no idea what it was worth. becxause it's not theirs - they merely inherited it.
mircea_popescu: from something that used to be a world power and a major empire.
mircea_popescu: so they got butthurt, and are prosecuting a local that was involved in their rape, they think.
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 01:16:09; ben_vulpes: solve my system of equations goddamnit don't try to intuit what i mean
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 17:32:45; mod6: my rotor+TEST2 has fully sync'd on gentoo. (3rd full sync with -verifyall)
mircea_popescu: if it bothers you can always drop aws connections at the firewall level
mircea_popescu: iirc someone explained it on reddit - they get 100 dollars worth free if they prove they're students or some crud.
mircea_popescu: but it's basically "some adults are giving free chickenfeed so let's take that and overturn the world!"
mircea_popescu: seriously, i can buy a cpu that outpuits cpu cycles at 500 a second over five years for 500 bucks
mircea_popescu: but the 100 dollar expenditure on "students" / redditards is absolute genius. get the fucktards to believe "nothing else exists", have cows for the rest of your life.
mircea_popescu: of course it sinks at the juncture where the cows are actually cockroaches.
mircea_popescu: the us' been learning to milk ever more roachy roaches for decades now.
mircea_popescu: Despite the fervor in the Bitcoin community, the odds are against Bitcoin XT. "This is not the first attempt to create a better Bitcoin, but I believe Bitcoin has such critical mass of resources devoted to it that it is unlikely anybody would abandon it for an incremental improvement,"says Gil Luria, an analyst at Wedbush Securities. "None has gotten much traction."
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, seems as best as i can determine the consensus in actual us finance.
mircea_popescu: makes the social media froth even less comprehensible.
mircea_popescu: (the "retail bank" where you go talk to a person you don't know that doesnty know you is really no different from mcdonalds "cuisine". irl, banks work a lot more like tailors)
mircea_popescu: fwiw, my entire intel thing is fundamentally a fork off ib intel.
mircea_popescu: (just like if major attorney firm loses major trial - it's not because the paralegals sucked)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3346 @ 0.00072641 = 2.4306 BTC [-]
mod6: SHA256 (rel1-vpatches.tar.gz) = 98f234a7ce0210efcd0e841818479a8d7495bb1ef50b90280453d252efccdbb3
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because you'd tell something else than what's in the log ?
mod6: SHA256 (rel2-pre-vpatches.tar.gz) = efee5d6f7a442748fb0326f0eb01ad69dc585e896ebadcaa6699af09b495618c
mircea_popescu: in general, the sure mark of a stupid yet pretentious student is, their desire to talk to the prof "privately".
mircea_popescu: because what, he's gonna give them the REAL math in private ?
mircea_popescu: "everyone else i'm giving tictacs, but since you ask privately, here is the REAL quantum mechanics"
mod6: let me know if you validate further, mechanically, whenever you get a chance.
mircea_popescu: "This is probably the first large scale opportunity to see whether unrestricted market forces actually do optimize a supply curve" << major point incidentally.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a review of the "best possible construction"./
mircea_popescu: certainly a lot better than the last time i read an article on zero hedge.
mircea_popescu: for that matter - i don't even have any objections, which is more of a journalistic achievement than a pulizer in each hand.
phf: huh, he was "active in bitcoin" for a bit, mmm was silver member in phoundation before getting kicked out, he started mmmcoin that was since killed, there's a blog post about bitcoin on his blog where he says "it's easy to take over bitcoin you just need couple of trillion u.s. dollars"
phf: (that bits.media link was supposed to be between "from" and "which")
funkenstein_: iirc, he had btc-e guys build the "exhcange".. looked identical to btc-e
mircea_popescu: yeah but what i'm saying is that this mmm and the 1990s historical item aren't much related
assbot: Logged on 27-07-2015 01:33:25; mircea_popescu: so /me goes to investigate this kingdom of loathing mud thingee. wikipedia claims 150k players playing regularly. /me has never seen > 500 players logged in. /me is confused.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> it is a solution to 'real people and spamming scum try to occupy limited space together' << yes, but the "free market" solution is "make people solve it on their own cpu" whereas you propose "solve it for other people on my own cpu". yes, if we can limit the market we don't need it to be free. but if we could make it free we wouldn't need to limit it.
mircea_popescu: dude danielpbarron you were way behind in the logs huh.
danielpbarron: i've read stuff since then, i just don't always read it all in order
trinque: "Now, every participant (firstly of the Bitcoin Republic, and then of the whole MMM) will be daily offered a simple web-task related to the activities in the social networks and forums that generate extra traffic to the MMM website." <<
http://mmmglobal.org/news/mmm_extra-3139.html trinque: what does his scam have to do with that?
trinque: where are you, herr timecube? show yourself
trinque: it's a good word, 'tis true
mircea_popescu: basically what is this, a sort of trying to herd retards to do web stuff ?
trinque: you join the MMM and you make 100%
trinque: Hello. My name is Jean, a manager of MMM Philippines, showing you my GH in the amount of P33,000. Thank you my donors and thank you MMM. Indeed its a great privilege to be part of this wonderful community. << ey asciilifeform, I found your filipinos
phf: mircea_popescu: i think mavrodi keeps spawning new mmm's, getting shut down or going bankrupt and then moving on. his last venture mentioned on wikipedia is MMM India in 2006, but there's no mention of this new mmmglobal
phf: but of course when you browse mmmglobal, his name comes up
assbot: Про Биткоин / Новости МММ. Последние актуальные новости МММ. А так же архив новостей МММ за 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 годов. ... (
http://bit.ly/1KGdBkl )
assbot: МММ Международная касса взаимопомощи. Официальный сайт Сергея Пантелеевича Мавроди. МММ 2015 - Мы можем многое! ... (
http://bit.ly/1KGdDIX )
assbot: МММ Международная касса взаимопомощи. Официальный сайт Сергея Пантелеевича Мавроди. МММ 2015 - Мы можем многое! ... (
http://bit.ly/1KGdOEa )
trinque: capitalism is mean; the solution is so totally not socialism (it's socialism)
trinque: in this case it actually sounds more like a pyramid scheme
trinque: cannot read enough to actually critique...
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 21:19:55; mats: i haven't seen any python libraries that enable this behavior without shelling out to the binary (or maybe i'm retarded, i dunno)
trinque: 10 billion's not a bad high score.
phf: trinque: russians of certain generation twitch at the mention of mmm
phf: there was a series of catchy commercials in constant tv rotation in the early 90s, that are simultaneously associated with collapse, "wild 90s" and plebs getting fucked left and right by yeltzin, oligarchs, tv spiritualists, scams, central bank etc.
☟︎ phf: (plot of commercials: every the top stereotypical russian pleb invests in mmm, gets more and more money. in every commercial he can afford to buy more and more shit. lenya golubkov, national hero)
trinque: partly to see what, lets say Comrade Joe Schmoe, looks like
trinque: ;;later tell felipelalli apparently I have used your app, Bitcoin Paranoid. neat
punkman: asciilifeform: no cosmic rays on that key right?
punkman: well at least it's revoked :/
BU769XX_dIQ: x%fail, is not that written into the (rules)
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 04:29:15; phf: there was a series of catchy commercials in constant tv rotation in the early 90s, that are simultaneously associated with collapse, "wild 90s" and plebs getting fucked left and right by yeltzin, oligarchs, tv spiritualists, scams, central bank etc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82900 @ 0.00072088 = 59.761 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38504 @ 0.00072553 = 27.9358 BTC [+]
punkman: "This is a community of ordinary people, selflessly helping each other, a kind of the Global Fund of mutual aid. This is the first sprout of something new in the modern soulless and ruthless world of greed and hard cash. The goal here is not the money. The goal is to destroy the world's unjust financial system. Financial Apocalypse!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43758 @ 0.00072567 = 31.7539 BTC [+]
punkman: so 21.co has mined 17k bitcoins in last 4 months. I wonder if they have any of their own chips or just renting.
jurov: ;;later tell trinque sorry, it fell between the cracks, next week
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5825 @ 0.00072584 = 4.228 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: ;;later tell asciilifeform currently if it gets only detached signature, it looks the signed file up using the hash in filename, this is being redone - will use original filename instead
punkman: jurov: I didn't put a hash in my detached sig filename though
jurov: that's another thing, if there is valid clearsigned text, it leaves all attachments
jurov: cuz otherwise "$#@$% it ate my attachmetns, dun wanna such mutilation"
jurov: punkman: if you recall, 21.co went into bed with intel
punkman: jurov: as reported by coindesk?
chetty: the new green energy, put all the fat people on tread mills!
punkman: "SexyCyborg says, while her choice of clothing might be shocking to Westerners, people in Shenzhen couldn't give two bits! As seen in her numerous scantily clad photos with lots of disinterested pedestrians in the background."
wyrdmantis: ;;later tell mircea_popescu so why l2 cache is relevant? give me a hint, please.
☟︎ cazalla: punkman, from that post "Traditionally the wife controls family finance. Husband turns over paycheck and wife gives husband allowance." fuck that
☟︎ punkman: fluffypony: inb4 shoes banned from datacenters << I'd visit fluffypony's nudist datacenter
cazalla: i don't buy that that chick came up with that shop, probably marketing material and it'll be on kickstarter tmw
cazalla: why would a chick be watching mr robot, a show guerrilla marketed at 4chan autists
☟︎ punkman: she doesn't seem to be selling anything or asking for "tips" of any kind
cazalla: perhaps even a tp-link advertisement then
punkman: it's reddity/derpy, sure, I'll give you that
fluffypony: consistently over 3 million viewers in the US
fluffypony: I think the "omg real hacker tools" thing is to appeal to script kiddies
fluffypony: but the show itself is fairly well received among non-techie audiences
cazalla: fluffypony, that's total viewers.. doesn't even top 2 million viewers in the US
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 261 @ 0.00846052 = 2.2082 BTC [-] {13}
fluffypony: they don't count international viewers because that's all syndication
cazalla: well, what do i know, i don't watch tv on tv
fluffypony: I wouldn't fall into those numbers at all
fluffypony: but that's why shows I've enjoyed, like Mozart in the Jungle, have no "cable" ratings
cazalla: looks like has has fake tits, sorta falls in my favour.. same bandanna and clothing in each photo too despite weeks apart
fluffypony: "This shot was needed after my last project which no one believed I made. Because when they put your boobs in they suck out your brains. Everyones knows that's how it works:-) If it's still a problem I'll just have to wear a GoPro for the whole process LOL"
cazalla: same work shop clothing again
fluffypony: I wear the same clothing when I'm working on my drones
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74264 @ 0.00072278 = 53.6765 BTC [-] {7}
chetty: Because when they put your boobs in they suck out your brains.// odd I always thought it was the second head that was the issue with brain loss
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34356 @ 0.00072585 = 24.9373 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38506 @ 0.00072987 = 28.1044 BTC [+] {2}
chetty: <kakobrekla> crazy day on the market floor// someone is dumb enoguh to buy it seems
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23450 @ 0.00072793 = 17.07 BTC [-]
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PeterL: A few days ago somebody asked about kids TV shows, my kids like "Phineas and Ferb" and "Teen Titans Go", not horrible to have in the other room like most kids shows these days
thestringpuller: PeterL: How is Teen Titans Go as just a show? (Did you ever see the Teen Titans from the early 2000's?)
PeterL: I never watched "Teen Titans", which I understand followed them fighting bad guys? Teen Titans Go is absurdly silly, mostly just them hanging around their tower, it's ok in small doses
funkenstein_: PeterL, what does it mean "not bad to have in other room" ?
PeterL: like, I wouldn't sit down and watch it myself, but if they watch it I don't stab my ears, like if "Dora the Explora" gets turned on
funkenstein_: so like, when it's the neighbors who somehow you don't care about their development at all, it's bearable
PeterL: I mean, they are not bad as kids shows, but still definitely aimed at kids and not adults
PeterL: I don't have my kids watch TV for development, it is just entertainment
PeterL: well, they don't watch much of it
Adlai: it's in there, somewhere
PeterL: but sometimes me and Mrs L want to have some alone time on sunday afternoon, and the kids need something to distract them
thestringpuller: "And so I ask you this one question. Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them? " - Bender
PeterL: what does hitting them accomplish?
Adlai doesn't agree with that philosophy literally, but doesn't agree with the generally popular approach to child-rearing either
Adlai: PeterL: if there's more than one, and they're old enough not to try eating the stones, i'd suggest replacing the TV with a goban
PeterL: well, we have one of those, but only the oldest would understand what to do with it (maybe the second, I should pull it out and see sometime?) the third wouldn't eat the stones, he would probably grab them and throw them across the room, causing the first two to come screaming to me that their brother ruined the game
Adlai: worth a try imo, although it admittedly would intrude on the afternoon alone time
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 50 minutes and 29 seconds ago: <mike_c> ;;seen asciilifeform
mike_c: hey ascii. wanted to chat about the graph thing when you have a few
mircea_popescu: hey, USG "press", where are all the articles about how US collapses amid dji never-before-seen losses ?
mircea_popescu: you know, all the ones about china two months ago, do a search and replace. no good ?
PeterL: my US stock investments have recently lost everything they gained since January, big old 0% increase on the year now
mike_c: Ok. That was my impression, that the data source wasn't quite ready yet. we can wait.
mircea_popescu: mike_c yeah a bit of an early thing on my part. on the theory that prolly you're doing plenty of other things and want to schedule things
mircea_popescu: PeterL imo holding any sort of usg paper is irresponsible, but that's just me.
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mike_c: Currently I am wrangling with python gnupg, which turns out to be a pile of shit
mircea_popescu: meanwhile bitcoin clearly poised to absorb the shocks lmao.
PeterL: well, I have had it stuck in a "retirement account" for a few years now, seemed like a good idea back when I put it in ... bleh
☟︎ mircea_popescu: all these people derping about how "oh, cyprus banks collapsed - bitcoin lalala ; oh argentina default - bitcoin lalala" don't comprehend the very basics of how economics works.
mike_c: punkman: thanks, I'll check it out. there's a lot of versions floating around
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mircea_popescu: mike_c from what i've seen, the python-anything turns out that way
mike_c: not in my experience, but this area, it is.
punkman: python-gpgme doesn't call out to shell but I haven't used it
mike_c: a hacked together with band-aids and rubber bands shell callout
mike_c: gpgme i don't know about
mike_c: oh fuck, it stands for "gpg made easy"? that's not promising
mike_c: so what, I'm stuck with bash scripts? how to use the fking thing?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: mike_c another premature thing is a pgp implementation that's proper.
mircea_popescu: looks like it'll be the first competing standard we end up writing.
mike_c: wywialm: what do the quedex guys use to talk to gpg?
davout: mike_c: i got gpgme to work fine fwiw
mike_c: oh? ok.. I will check it out. thanks.
mike_c: not just verifying. encryptying, decrypting, verifying.
punkman: I wonder how many klock are in gpg, anyone counted it?
wywialm: mike_c, from the client side, we have a python-gnupg wrapper app around our api
wywialm: if that is what you ask about
mike_c: thanks. i was looking for good alternatives.
mike_c: going to give gpgme a run around the block and see how that does.
wywialm: that is very temporary, we'll be moving to java bouncy castle in the near future
wywialm: i.e. this python-gnupg - calling gpg is just too slow
mike_c: whole app is going to java?
wywialm: that is a most likely scenario
punkman: wywialm: does that thing do gpg?
mike_c: "Generators/Processors for OpenPGP "
mike_c: out of curiousity, what's "too slow"?
mike_c: i mean, unless you're supporting HFT, is it really a problem for the client app?
wywialm: mircea_popescu, is there something i miss? re bouncy castle: we'll most likely have to write a library to make it more usable
mircea_popescu: turns out in point of fact a good chunk of the internet "ponzi" subculture has to do with this schmuck promoting nonsense like it's his mission in life.
wywialm: for "high touch" users, no, pyton-gnupg is more or less ok, but for algo and managing mulitple instruments the delays are noticeable
mircea_popescu: should be fun once pgp is implemented properly as full rsa.
mike_c: full rsa would make for some long messages
mike_c: but I hear bandwidth is doubling every year for the next 10 years :)
mircea_popescu: shit... dude i miss the drunken evening over a musama covered table with drunk people.
punkman: what's the difference of full rsa to current gpg?
mike_c: i was assuming he meant not using AES to encode the message
wywialm: mircea_popescu, what is java most hated for - in particular, in client-side? and what is the recommended alternative for similar purposes?
mircea_popescu: punkman currently a symmetric session key is rsa encrypted.
mircea_popescu: wyrdmantis slow, large memory footprint, undebuggable in that order.
mike_c: cuz message has to be encoded for each recipient
mike_c: JVM is not accepted on my machine
mike_c: because I don't trust it.
mike_c: even on my windows box..
wywialm: mike_c, we will not drop the python app
mircea_popescu: wyrdmantis just because web-programmers suck doesn't mean asm no longer exists.
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 04:44:57; asciilifeform: in fact, i saw these, as a boy, and they permanently defined what 'advertising' means in my head.
mircea_popescu: dude there's two people with wy ? apologies for misdirection
BingoBoingo: So, going out to pick up some chicken hearts to fry up for breakfast I saw the local much beloved microwave tower covered in a tent of some sort
BingoBoingo: Well, why the fuck does a microwave tower need to wear clothes?
punkman: because of derps sensitive to wifi?
BingoBoingo: There better not be any of those around here.
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mircea_popescu: maybe some kids wanted to fuck but didn't know how to camp so they used the available pilar ?
funkenstein_: perhaps "java" is too broad a descriptor with all the different compilers, VMs or not, etc. available
BingoBoingo: You know, this Chinese market mess is going to be hell on whatever's left of the US auto industry.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63902 @ 0.00072393 = 46.2606 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: The kulaks there were really starting to develop a taste for Buick and pickup trucks
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 05:21:32; asciilifeform: this kind of lure is only really thinkable in a ru90s-style collapsy context
mircea_popescu: that sort of large scale mismanagement is always the result of technical objects satisfying perceived imagological needs first and foremost. like the fortifications of the eternal city.
thestringpuller: "Our companies will be ready for larger blocks by December 2015 and we will run
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: well we need to be more certain
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 09:21:40; wyrdmantis: ;;later tell mircea_popescu so why l2 cache is relevant? give me a hint, please.
mircea_popescu: honestly i've been tempted by shenzen for a while now.
fluffypony: apparently you're not allowed to institute such safety measures in a DC
mircea_popescu: it was originally interesting, "check it out, the kitsch version of us collapse, 20 years early" but eventually one has enough.
☟︎ mats: i can't even afford to go myself :P
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 09:42:08; cazalla: punkman, from that post "Traditionally the wife controls family finance. Husband turns over paycheck and wife gives husband allowance." fuck that
mircea_popescu: either that or skipping a year. i'm not doing another one in b-a. you've seen it all. literally.
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 09:49:31; cazalla: why would a chick be watching mr robot, a show guerrilla marketed at 4chan autists
mircea_popescu: teen enjoys geeky show, decides to give herself tits. only thing uncommon is that she had the guts to take control. otherwise...
mike_c: 22 hours from jfk to shenzen. ouch.
kakobrekla: i bet alf is gonna be disappointed. no coffee, no icecream, no steak.
mike_c: oh, with layover. nevermind
mike_c: only 17 hours in the air.
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mats: i'll be surprised if mp sticks around shenzhen as long as he does buenos aires
mircea_popescu: what, not like they don't let him in without conf invite lol
kakobrekla: better buy seats while you still can ;)
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 15:42:43; mike_c: so what, I'm stuck with bash scripts? how to use the fking thing?
mircea_popescu: anyway - not my fault the concorde lapsed without replacement. imo THAT is the end point of white civilisation.
mats: crowded, terrible air, you don't speak chinese, you'll never be chinese, inscrutable local politics
mircea_popescu: all it takes is me wanting to. which, granted, high fucking bar.
mats: but hey, you'll be real popular. chinese people love to practice english on white folk.
BingoBoingo: Why Shenzen and not the Democratic Congo of Ferguson?
mats: isn't that the outfit gavin worked for?
trinque: are we to the point where we give up on scoopbot yet?
trinque: I have a feeds module at the ready.
gribble: williamdunne was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 21 hours, 26 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <williamdunne> mircea_popescu: Relieve pressure by ranting on a blog? Sounds like it could work. I'll have another look at the incubators
mike_c: question I don't expect an answer to: how does mpex handle the gpg processing?
mircea_popescu: "They have made good public presentations that only serve to enhance Bitcoins image. Due to factors like these, various ppl within the community will take an interest in their POV."
mircea_popescu: heh dude wtshit already. nobody cares what "people in the community" etc. bitcoin is fucking money.
mike_c: hand-coded PGP impelementation in PHP and javascript
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would much rather fuck a plastic cyborg created out of the desire of the short yellow people to fit in with white civilisation than an actual scion of the latter.
mircea_popescu: because enthusiasm beats anything else nine times out of seven.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: her. tell me that if you had to share your lab you'd have a problem sharing it with her.
trinque: chick looks like that and knows what a computer is; what's wrong?
mircea_popescu: you live in fucking reddit republic and pretend it ends at the door.
mircea_popescu: i lived a much better life of the spirit when i lived it among nude whores on sets, and plastic women making a point of being stupid
mircea_popescu: and so would you. this entire "give boys letters" thing is dumb.
mircea_popescu: btw, anyone know the rather epic story of the only concorde crash to date ?
mircea_popescu: previous flight lost an engine foil, concorde ran it over, it cut a wheel, wheel exploded, large fragment of tyre hit underwing, shockwave broke a fuel tanker, fuel gushed out and caught, engineer cut the engine next, at which point they had 2km worth of runway left and needed 3 to abort.
☟︎ punkman: and "Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10"
trinque: mircea_popescu | so they took the passengers back to hotel. directly. << lol!
mircea_popescu: trinque i am not an expert in airflight security, or a pilot or anything. nevertheless, it's my opinion that this is a fine example of what thinking in a box is and what it gets you.
mircea_popescu: specifically, the correct move there would have been to cut all engines, engage all brakes (including the chute) and read a magazine.
mircea_popescu: fuck it, so it runs out of runway, runs through the airport fence, runs out into the fucking street.
mircea_popescu: but no... they "had to take off", because trained experts, and being trained means not thinking of all alternatives.
trinque: right, merely selecting one from the procedure book
trinque: my dad's a pilot; it's astounding how much scripted behavior they have to internalize
mircea_popescu: also the notion that "anything's an option once all the scripts yield in predictable failure" is hard to maintain
trinque: goes right to "nobody could've forseen" by way of "they did all they could" because they exhausted the rulebook
mircea_popescu: in that case, what the guy did was the actual minimal path.
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2014 19:46:44; asciilifeform: 'C: What I want to suggest to you is that it was recklessness, utter recklessness, in view of the conditions
mircea_popescu: my reading the magazine above is exactly in same degree and exactly the same kind, "recklessness".
mircea_popescu: at any rate, this is a very vast thing, it unites the mentioned "when hiring fortune teller - hire cheapest"
mircea_popescu: to the very common "but you gotta play", seen at work for instance by the people who think they HAVE to take a mortgage, or buy a diamond ring, or go to college, or so on.
BingoBoingo: Also $75,000 for a barrow. Not even a breeding hog, a castrated pig is now worth a new Chevy Suburban.
BingoBoingo: I see no other outcome. This isn't even artmarket altcoins which... Don't expire when the pig goes to slaughter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i ran a month or so of a similar thing mostly out of curiosity if this happens. notrly.
BingoBoingo: "Donelson’s Land of Lincoln steer sold for a record $61,000 to the highest bidder, Governor Bruce Rauner."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform xbox is genuinely WORTH 2k of today's watered down dollare.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's much a process like how we'll end up paying 5k for real cpu
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i presumed they were chip-able in a certain manner.
mircea_popescu: they prolly have a secret word for it too, like fags in 1950 ny.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19864 @ 0.00072033 = 14.3086 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 20:54:46; mircea_popescu: which is why no cows, no trees, everyone on tatamis
trinque: bout to bring a deedbot- feeds module online
trinque: I'm going to let it run in private for just a bit, after which when I'm satisfied with his behavior, will add feeds here.
mircea_popescu: how's my chances on redheads ? what's the oracle say ?
mats: china loves white people. white people got da money.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know this worldview is how the south got its reputation for cousinfucking.
mircea_popescu: how are the girls going to run around naked in siberia ? get locals ?
trinque: I'm highly skeptical that a country building all the everything anyone uses on earth is anything like Pyongyang.
mircea_popescu: why would i want to crash some lame fat fuck's party ?
mircea_popescu: who's the lame thin fuck of china again ? or i lost an antecedent, wut
trinque: China is a gigantic country. All of it eats roast dog?
mircea_popescu: kinda my point. working into/out of "cn". what is that ?
trinque: right, and look at the variance you get in the USA
trinque: say rural south vs downtown Seattle
mircea_popescu: so you propose to me that a 10 mn sqkm surface inhabited by ~2bn people is ENTIRELY uninhabitable, on account of the fact that... RICE grows there ?
trinque: or for that matter downtown Houston vs Magnolia, TX
mircea_popescu: i needed regular supply flights in my own fucking country, just for having moved to the outskirts of my home province.,
trinque: I know for a fact they ship *from*
trinque: shenzen is not the south pole lol
mircea_popescu: shenzen is, roughly speaking, detroit of 1920 or new jersey of 1880
assbot: Logged on 19-06-2014 02:26:17; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever do business with han chinese ?
mircea_popescu: the rent in romania article i linked coupla weeks ago was discussing "affordability" in terms of, "to people makinmg 400 euro per month as an avg salary".
mircea_popescu: yes, that's not a concern. nevertheless, whether i buy or i don't buy is still a decision.
mircea_popescu: and if i couldn't do business with a defined class, no matter which class, i'd have a very serious PERSONAL problem in my own estimation, and i'd go resolve it forthwith.
trinque: k, turning on the feeds. each will barf top 5 when added.
assbot: I killed one, I'm publishing another, who the hell knows what's going on anymore. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
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assbot: Oglaf is still the biggest thing happening in English and other considerations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
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trinque: maybe assbot could ignore deedbot- ^
trinque: and I recall conversation around phuctor's rss. should I add it?
BingoBoingo: "However the discovery left medical regulators unimpressed. Using human medical waste to power vehicles (or indeed for any other commercial purpose) is largely illegal, and Dr Bittner's clinic has been raided by California Health Department officials."
mircea_popescu: well for sure us is very similar to ro, in the following amusing way : /me clearly recalls arab fellow living in romania explaining to me the problems with gypsies.
mircea_popescu: adding to the amusement, the part that he wasn't aware that to the average romanian, the arab,gypsy difference seems slight. but i suspect you know in english russian, chinese, same deal.
BingoBoingo more curious how mircea_popescu plans to get real internet in .cn
mircea_popescu: but that aside, i have very little hope left to be much surprised by people.
BingoBoingo: Don't they have that wall thing to keep the Mongols lost and until they get found, but for internet
mircea_popescu: o right. how am i going to get encrypted connections to my various servers. i dunno, BingoBoingo !
mircea_popescu: maybe i discover they drop payloads at the backbone level
BingoBoingo: sure, or they throttle the white man's speed
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it wasn't discussed as anything more than a very vague possibility. just, your objections got rejected is all!
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 04:38:13; asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes your bot is dead ?
lobbes: Of course, with this update lobbesbot seems to have new problems communicating with assbot. In summary, all that is left is to figure out how to get lobbesbot to !up himself again..
lobbes: for some reason, the OTP from assbot doesn't get sent to the messages.log like it used to pre-limnoria
lobbes: I'm sure I'm just missing something obvious
trinque: alright, well, this is the 3rd time I've had to get feeds going on mine
trinque: mind if I just keep doing it?
lobbes: well, I can't really say 'no.' If you've got a working solution, there's no need to wait for my derpage
kakobrekla: well, i dont mind who runs rss bot - but - usually we just let the chanserv do the bot voicing to make it simpler
trinque: parsimony strikes again; I'll endeavor to avoid busses
mircea_popescu: trinque one of the best parts of this entire open experiment thingee is how the rss bot was by far the MOST redone part of all of b-a
☟︎ kakobrekla: i even added rss to assbot for bens jeniks - which got shut down a day after.
trinque: I've had a working module for months at least, but was letting somebody else take a job
trinque: but lo, I am trinque, eater of bots
lobbes: <kakobrekla> usually we just let the chanserv do the bot voicing to make it simpler << so, in other words, no need for assbot voicing?
trinque: no, the right amount of code is better
kakobrekla: the right amount being less in this particular case :)
trinque: so why don't you set rules for everyone to be autovoiced when authed with nickserv
trinque: I don't want to spend another morning farting around with something as inconsequential as an RSS plugin
kakobrekla: do you expect to find shakespeare in your server logz?
trinque: I expect that someone who says "I will run an RSS bot" does it
trinque: so they don't waste my time
mircea_popescu: nah, the autovoice thing going away is prolly the right direction anyway
trinque: notably the bitching about how someone else wants to do it comes after I've put work into bringing mine back online
trinque: I'm not pissed at all. lobbes here seems to want to do scoops.
lobbes: trinque: not scoops, per se. I've just been on a quest to handle alf's phuctor feed
lobbes: the rest, I thought was williamdunne
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trinque: kakobrekla: at the time I wrote deedbot- there was an agreement that the thing should voice itself when I asked you to autovoice it.
mircea_popescu: that agreement was mostly me delicately pushing evolution.
trinque: seems the right way to me. fits using another means of communication at some later date, too
trinque: anywho, I am just trying to keep the gears turning. I'm not "pissed"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform thinking about it, "choose this profession" thing might be the distillate of the issue. on one hand, the evidence that suchg a thinbg as "choosing your profession" even exuists in nature is slight at best. take the longstanding observation that "a young researcher will end up in that field where he encounters the first success".
mircea_popescu: also the cui prodest analysis comes out very heavily charged. apparently the only people who'd benefit from you think "you chose" "your" "profession" are the people selling professions, and choice.
mircea_popescu: "now you chose it, it's yours, you gotta upkeep it" goes the taxation verbiage. just like... wait for it...
mircea_popescu: meanwhile back at mr x's camp : he chose nothing and no profesion. he can eat here. what's your problem ?
mircea_popescu: and in those terms, your problem is "why are you such an asshole" which comes directly to "why don't you wash like we do".
mircea_popescu can readily envisage the situation where, being dirigiblewrecked on same lab, would prefer the company of mr x over pretty much everyone in the dept.
williamdunne: +1 on auto-upping some nicks. I wanted to re-write Scoop in a language that doesn't use JIT and other such crap, but many languages lack GPG libraries that actually work.
williamdunne: D required a hacky method of telling the application to use the command line
mircea_popescu: hopefully we get a pgp implementation that's usable sometime this side of the decade.
mike_c: don't we already have a scoop?
mike_c: now maintained by someone who might keep it up more than a week
williamdunne: Ok, well lets settle on works well enough for the rather limited goal
mike_c: can't do much useful without it.
mike_c: hm. mpex hasn't been cracked by that yet.
mike_c: you send encrypted message, get encrypted response back in real time
mike_c: "coin".. you do on trades.
mike_c: malformed ciphertext is just theoretical, no? never seen in wild?
mike_c: i mean nobody (here) knows of any real example of this working.
mike_c: i mean, what's it going to do? root the box? I guess that's worst case.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: you probably own one of the most valuable pgp/email lists going..
mircea_popescu: nah, mpex is "potemkins all the way down". i read it on reddit.
mike_c: sure, generally. but if you're building a pgp interface.. obviously assbot has done so
mike_c: right. but if you want to build a service that has proper message security, how else to do it?
mike_c: well, don't tell that to mpex.
trinque: heh, sounds a lot like the human fuel gauge in Waterworld
mircea_popescu: "MegaIndex - powerfull analytics tool which allows to get comprehensive report about web-site's incoming and outgoing links." <, in other news, i am persuaded 50% or more of webtrafic is meta.
mircea_popescu: people trying to figure out whence other people get traffic.
mircea_popescu: ironically enough, i serve millions of pages/day to various of these idiots, and none yet has managed to observe that they do not get articles.
mircea_popescu: because srsly, trilema paid content thing "is just not done"
mircea_popescu: so bing and yahoo and ahrefs and who have you dozens of names literally still dutifully "index"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform these guys. they don't think themselves spammers.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: will the eyes scale? if a lot of cipher text turds are being thrown around you'd have to have a lot of eyes, as I can't imagine this scaling very well.
mircea_popescu: anyone remember that retarded chinese satellite launch thing where all the hopped up boys had to report PLAN OVERDELIVERED!!!
mircea_popescu: so asciilifeform shit thinner, faster, be a shenzen-er today!
mircea_popescu: not hot at all. i just picked a random name, cuz some interwebs chick was from there. then you got all immuno-responsive on me.
mircea_popescu: and im very fond of the sea for just as long as the distance between us is my decision.
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin Professionals - Looking For Bitcoin Talent? Ad www.cryptoconsortium.org <<< someone got so many "bitcoin professionals" they're paying google to help give them away.
mircea_popescu: "A Certified Bitcoin Professional is knowledgeable about the Bitcoin blockchain, Bitcoin transactions, and how the Bitcoin network operates. CBPs are able to apply Bitcoin technology to their professional area of expertise"
assbot: Logged on 15-02-2015 23:29:43; thestringpuller: asciilifeform: random question. If someone paid for you to take Buterin's C4 (Certified Bitcoin Professional) exam, would you do it?
mircea_popescu: you know this occurs to me - it WOULD be helpful if we had an actual "Bitcoin Basics Qualification" thing.
mircea_popescu: same thing as the color test was. or should have been,
mircea_popescu: "had a cunt 5years ago, still has it - clearly qualified as woman"
mats: djia closes another 500 hundred points down
mats: am no longer unsure about my decision last month to empty my retirement savings plan and buy buttcoins
mats: by no means do I think this is safe, but hey, risk taking is for the young
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37850 @ 0.00071948 = 27.2323 BTC [-]
mats: Starcraft REd to run on ARM
mats: TIL kink.com bought The Armory on Mission St
mats: passed by many times, had no idea
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26688 @ 0.00071952 = 19.2025 BTC [+] {2}
mats: >the three-judge panel upheld U.S. District Judge Esther Salas’ ruling that the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has the authority under the “unfairness” prong of Section 5 of the FTC Act to bring suit against companies over data security practices.
mats: now just how this is gonna play will be amusing to watch
BingoBoingo: "addr" : "128.8.124.7:5097", "subver" : "/UMD-Coinscope:0.0/", "startingheight" : 346223, << Fuckers aren't even completely sync'd
punkman: danielpbarron: were you leaving comments at vice?
danielpbarron: yeah that one time and yeah it was a webchat link naming the victim "from_vice"
danielpbarron: my 0.5.4-beta node is up to height=231807 and syncing much faster than any machine i've ever maintained (due in part to the wonderful DISCARD BASTARD BLOCK feature, and in part to this particular machine having 8 gigs of ram)
punkman: asciilifeform: he even has an app that uses OTPs
danielpbarron: especially nice considering that i'm using one of my old 5400 IDE-cable hard drives, and not even in a mirroring raid!
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punkman: trinque: you gotta make the thing not post the backlog
trinque: it only listens to me at the moment
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 20:24:27; mircea_popescu: trinque one of the best parts of this entire open experiment thingee is how the rss bot was by far the MOST redone part of all of b-a
trinque: keeping things alive is the hardest problem
BingoBoingo: Well pete_dushenski Your blog is the one that tends to send RSS botmakers running screaming
BingoBoingo: Or maybe you just really have done something deeply and utterly wrong with your RSS
pete_dushenski: we'll now see how deedbot-'s immune system holds up against it
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo not impossibru, but i really haven't diddled with it. then again, perhaps that's the issue
BingoBoingo: Maybe you sleep diddled it? Maybe RSS just really dun like Jooz.
ben_vulpes: wordpress ca. 2014 iirc when you set your thing up
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo rss likes trilema well enough. and i'll be damned if it's smart enough to tell the difference between mp's jooiness and mine
trinque: anybody sees any weirdness, just lemme know.
mats: paying 1k/mo to share a room in this place
pete_dushenski: 'Ben & Pete’s Magickal Skool For Kidz Who Can Mebbe Not Suck' (tm) (r)
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2015 15:39:08; PeterL: well, I have had it stuck in a "retirement account" for a few years now, seemed like a good idea back when I put it in ... bleh
pete_dushenski: sure, there are rules, regs, penalties, and whatever nonsense between you and your 401k bezzlars, but it's not like a little pain and a little friction now isn't a damned reasonable price to pay to avoid a lot of pain and an impossible amount of friction later
pete_dushenski: i had the same 'stuck' in 2013 and i can tell you that it's not the end of the world to unjam
pete_dushenski: anyone in a similar position is henceforth advised that, yes, it's possible to become unstuck from retirement scams that you will never see the proceeds from
punkman: asciilifeform: not like there's much left in the retirement funds here, but this is not possible
mircea_popescu: a which reminds me, trinque make sure pete_dushenski blog is only rss'd like randopmly one in 5
pete_dushenski: ^saw local production of fiddler last night as part of 'the fringe' festival (as was covered in recent contravex reviews). unfortunately, other than a hell of a tevye and a rather lovely hodel, the cast of 45 was unbearably atrocious
felipelalli: asciilifeform, I sent you two things. Which one should I send to the mailing list?
pete_dushenski: cows with tuning forks up their asses could hold a better tune than golde
pete_dushenski: the local production had this 'make accessible' and 'involve whole community' mandate branded on their stupid skulls, with entirely predictable results
felipelalli: asciilifeform, ok, I'm sorry. I did not want to pollute the list.
pete_dushenski: the riff-raff they let in wouldn't cut it in any of the high school or junior high productions i was in
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ;;later tell felipelalli you sent the thing to ~me~ instead of the ml <<< ahahaha epic.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski thatre's a dead concern everywhere. and even opera.