tmsr - Search: sks

BingoBoingo: In that case why not SKS? Durable thing that required machining, but otherwise perfect conscript rifle

mp_en_viaje: rarely seen state of affairs at us gun shops ; generally gun worth 3-500 selling for 1-2k. sks surely worth the 300.

a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 16:40 PeterL: I was in a gun store in 2010, they had an SKS for $120, but I didn't get it, wish I did, now they run about $450 around here

a111: Logged on 2019-04-22 16:35 PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909210 << are you shooting the raccoons with a SKS, or am I mistakenly mixing these log lines together?

PeterL: I was in a gun store in 2010, they had an SKS for $120, but I didn't get it, wish I did, now they run about $450 around here ☟︎

asciilifeform: PeterL: the sks comment was re mp's budapest 'changing of the guard' photo

PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-21#1909210 << are you shooting the raccoons with a SKS, or am I mistakenly mixing these log lines together? ☝︎☟︎

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Those are common "demilitarized" collectors items. In the 1990's the catalogs selling Mosin and cheap SKS were full of all sorts of otherwise cool (sten, uzi, etc) molested into uselessness

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they're in order of submission, so the top MB or so is ssl certolade, the rest -- sks

BingoBoingo: Or any sks at all, so long as it's not a Chicom one (Clinton I regime weird)

a111: Logged on 2016-08-16 21:03 mircea_popescu: it's not "the sks server" that is retarded. is the concept of machine-spread rsa key that's retarded ; much in the way of "machine-generated trust", be it embodied in "dao" or "colored coins" or "safe bitbet"

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, so the standard here is, "a key from the sks system which my gpg at home eats and which is nevertheless not prime and excepting A50591247C8E37A64117B74F78AB527059E13694 / B01584E9F6CB9E76DEA61E2A73786CA0F4EACC4F because reasons and with a special review clause for later on left blank atm" ?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i was discussing the dozen gpg generated, sks vintage keys that weren't divisible by 5.

asciilifeform: ( the rest, sks, and the tiny remainder, manual submissions. )

asciilifeform: takes a day or 2 to grab a snapshot of sks. another day to cut it. then swallows in 1-2d

asciilifeform: nope, recall, it requires a cooperating existing sks server. we -- leech manually.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you mean a fresh sks dump ? are we running a server or how did that go ?

mircea_popescu: i guess it could do that then : "x keys broken the past 9 minutes, ssh 5 (olivetti.it, blabla.dot) ; sks 3."

asciilifeform: ( perhaps after this, we'll do an sks refresh, high time for one, last time was in 2015 )

asciilifeform: after these get eaten, prolly will be ripe for a refresh of sks

asciilifeform: fwiw i never pushed my final gpg key to sks, and have nfi if it's there or not

asciilifeform: ( iirc sks ~can~ be configured to reject pubs without selfsigs -- but not everyone did this )

asciilifeform: re sks, might be lulzy to generate revokograms for phuctured keys and send to it. afaik they currently display ALL revokograms with the respective key. put whatever text you want...

midnightmagic: "goat". doh. Okay. I wonder if that's Chaang-Noi. What the heck is he doing with the SKS keyset..

midnightmagic: asciilifeform: The earlier dataset would just be evidence I didn't randomly edit mine, and thus prove that buddy probably didn't upload his key into the SKS set before that date. (Since SKS key server ops won't delete keys.)

asciilifeform: midnightmagic: so go and search mit's sks , why ask here.

midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Correct. However, if the data comes from, e.g. MIT server hosting, or if it comes from one of the SKS key server operators, then that's enough. I can point at that and say "look, more data that says the same thing."

midnightmagic: asciilifeform: Good god, no. Not interested in embrace&extinguish. I've managed to capture the attention of Chief Lying Scumbag himself Craig Wright, and a secondary source of historical SKS would mean that I'm probably not lying when I tell people that fake-Satoshi's fake-keys *weren't* in the dataset as of February 2012.

a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 11:45 midnightmagic: Uh. asciilifeform? Can I ask you where you managed to dig up those old SKS keysets which predate the one I shared with you?

a111: Logged on 2017-10-03 11:47 midnightmagic: Also, may I point people to you as a source of SKS historical data?

midnightmagic: Also, may I point people to you as a source of SKS historical data? ☟︎

midnightmagic: Uh. asciilifeform? Can I ask you where you managed to dig up those old SKS keysets which predate the one I shared with you? ☟︎

asciilifeform at one point put in some sweat to make a real-time sks feeding thing, but junked it when found that it requires ASSENT on peering ends to work

mircea_popescu: more different now than a second before, apparently it didn't have elaine ou's pgp eithyer, notwithstanding it's on mit sks

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely possible that it wasn't in the orig sks dump

asciilifeform: mats: you might want the raw sks set rather than mine then

a111: Logged on 2017-04-25 13:18 mats: asciilifeform: ok thanks for the heads up. can i get a dump of fingerprints from phuctor? i will crawl sks instead

mats: asciilifeform: ok thanks for the heads up. can i get a dump of fingerprints from phuctor? i will crawl sks instead ☟︎

asciilifeform: unless an ~existing~ sks user gives you a connection

a111: Logged on 2017-04-25 04:28 mats: before i install sks and figure out how to wrangle bdb - someone have a dump of ascii armored pub keys?

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-25#1647772 << i tried this, wasted a great deal of time. you can't get an sks dump by running sks. ☝︎

mats: before i install sks and figure out how to wrangle bdb - someone have a dump of ascii armored pub keys? ☟︎

asciilifeform: i published an sks eater here a few yrs ago, search logs

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform linked a dump at some point, check the logs. the principal parts are a sks+trims (keybase, whatnot) dump that might be still available, though 2 years back in logs, and Framedragger 's ssh scan results, which he might share with you.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sks does in fact find a key immediately if such is known.

a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 16:05 asciilifeform: which, note, replaces, e.g., sks and other heathen idiocies.

asciilifeform: which, note, replaces, e.g., sks and other heathen idiocies. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 02:16 asciilifeform: btw does mircea_popescu know what would happen if a pgp key with his main key but new magical subkey were generated and posted to sks ?

asciilifeform: https://sks-ural.com/staty/tehnicheskoe-obsluzhivanie-schetchika-vody-v-ekaterinburge << from referheaderspam on dulap! and it goes, and goes, every hour, every day! can anyone posit hypothesis why a water meter repair (apparently legit, and 0 other commercial content) spams ?

asciilifeform: and, again, 'displayify daily' will nuke the 'use as sks, check pasted keys in real time' aspect.

asciilifeform: because sks gave it to us with a revoke cert glued on.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the other obvious thing would be to dispense with 'real time submission' entirely, and when someone dumps in a key, it goes into next batch. but we discussed this earlier in this thread, it would mean that the thing cannot be used as sks-like tool.

asciilifeform: 'just popped' means that you can no longer use it, as previously suggested, in place of sks, for instance.

asciilifeform: will keep sitting there until the last sks disk rusts.

asciilifeform: recall, it was an sks key, rather than from ssh scan.

asciilifeform: we also have jurov's keys, and new sks sets, and who knows by then what else.

asciilifeform: i will add that the thing does not appear to reside on sks, though other items advertised as 'seclab' -- are

trinque: but at any rate, "I published to sks before old expired" is also broken.

a111: Logged on 2016-10-09 02:00 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-09#1554094 << Just Say No to sks, folx.

ben_vulpes: wouldn't one want to actually verify the key components and not just that sks coughed something up for a given fp?

mircea_popescu: wtf was that anyway, "go do this and then wait for its imperial majesty usg.sks for until they feel like it". since when!

mircea_popescu: rAISellers but did you send it to the sks servers ?

asciilifeform: but at least then it'll be in 2 places, vs 1, and neither'll be sks.

mod6: after submission of your key, it takes a while for sks to process and index the key so it can be "searchable"

mod6: about all i can do is try to look up your FP in some sks keyserver to see if its there to resolve that dependency.

Framedragger: supersechi: upload it to both http://keys.gnupg.net/ and https://sks-keyservers.net/ - they will propagate keys amongst themselves but just in case you don't want to wait

mircea_popescu: no need to force people to sks ; not like we're supporting the kochabomination

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: https://gnupg.org/blog/20160830-web-key-service.html << koch grunts again to push folks to gpg2. this time, by 'obsoleting' sks.

mircea_popescu: first case of koch-gpg / openshit-ssh keys sharing a factor. pity it's such a lulzy one, HOWEVER, it does make the "sks error" nonsense just a little more lulzy.