BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Where are the lulz in heroic jap station wagon swats pedellerast traffic nuisance?
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell covertress Why would anyone not want to be seen here? The light here is very flattering. Anyways there are only two things a person NEEDS in their life. The Most Serene Republic and Sobriety. The second one is debatable.
BingoBoingo kinda envies those who can do sobriety as a part time thing. And russians who can be sober even while drinking.
shinohai: I tried complete sobriety and decided my life was less interesting because of it.
BingoBoingo: Can you do controlled drinking and succeed at it?
☟︎ shinohai: Well I have a bottle or 2 of wine on occasion, then maybe not touch a drop for 2-3 months.
shinohai: Depends on mood I guess, but I do enjoy it so I didn't want to give up *entirely*
BingoBoingo: Or do you plan on having three beers to celebrate graduating from socialist US school only to discover you have become a Lord of the Greatest Republic.
BingoBoingo: And fuck your two bottles of wine crap unless the wine has a name like Thunderbird, Night Train, or Sysco
phf: russians have a concept for it, "квасить" to drink socially in a controlled manner. failure at квас is seen as a character flaw. a grownup is supposed to go be able to go at it for like 5-6 hours without the embarrassing "passing out face first into the salad" eventual outcome. when you're in your 30s, you should be able to do it for 5-6 hours, then be able to freshen up and do work, etc.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Or you're a teenage girl. Apparently that sends quite a few spiraling towards a bottom.
BingoBoingo: phf: At some point I had that ability and lost it later to multi day binges. That may or may not have contained 5-12 hour bouts of "civilized" drinking.
phf: you do proper квас-ing by pacing yourself, but also eating appetizers and small meals (traditional shit like pickles or black bread or salted herring). also there are some rules, like "always go from lower abv to higher"
phf: but yeah self control is important, and i think a lot of people who do it through their lives turn into alcoholics
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Anyways continuing to drink for me while also living in USSA at a point became unacceptable according to the risk calculator.
shinohai: I just got tired of being a slob
phf: for all the jokes about russian vodka drinking, the amount of "functional alcoholism" i've seen in ussa is staggering. i literally cut contact with about 70% of my friends from my 20s, because they are slob alcoholics with no self control. so it's either health nuts who don't touch the stuff (or rarely) or else it's "50 minutes of квас and then race to the bottom" crowd
☟︎ phf: also sop in i.t. "friday happy hours" at shitty bars until everyone's blacked out
☟︎ BingoBoingo: The SOP that pissed me off most was fuckers prancing around with their Dainty light beers while playing games like Beer Pong. Bitch if have that kind of muscle coordination left you ain't drinking.
BingoBoingo: But now thank to the 12 steps I have stolen Inner Peace from my higher power, and I will curb stomp a bitch if they try to steal my serenity.
shinohai: I never did AA, I can't buy into whole "higher power" thing.
shinohai: But it does work for other folks, so that's good.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-21 00:48 BingoBoingo: Can you do controlled drinking and succeed at it?
mircea_popescu: the song goes "uite-asa as vrea sa mor, cu paharul linga mine, cu cobzarul linga mine, intr-o crisma din obor, sa scriu cind o fi momentul cu vin rosu testamentul. sa-i tragem o betie de pomina sa fie"
☟︎ BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: can not see. Apparently Youtube broke again and refuses to obey my download script.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Higher power is an intentionally vague term. Any of the other lords of TMSR would probably be happy to serve as your higher power if you ask nicely.
mircea_popescu: ie, "this is how i wish to die, the glass by me, the kobza player by me, in an Obor dive, and when the time comes write my testament in red wine. let's get so drunk it shall be remembered."
shinohai: tmsr is the closet thing to a higher power I acknowledge true
BingoBoingo: shinohai: alf or jurov might appreciate the benefits they recieve from serving as an object of your worship just so long as you ask nicely. Both have long histories of lording.
shinohai: Alf is a vengeful God, this is no better than Jehovah.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Well jurov is a high quality lord. Excells at fixing things that nobody thought could be broken until alf tried using them. Jurov is a very patient lord.
mircea_popescu: 1986 ro clone of frank sinatra, complete with juntos venceremos drip.
mircea_popescu: no idea what's with the "i'm a professional waiter" arm position, but anywya.
mircea_popescu: guy was huge in romania, ever since teenager. he never did anything but sing.
BingoBoingo: Are you sure? Maybe he waited tables until sucking the right dick? Entertainment is a complex industry.
mircea_popescu: also, this is trabajadores regime. strictly no dicksucking anywhere.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-21 00:53 phf: russians have a concept for it, "квасить" to drink socially in a controlled manner. failure at квас is seen as a character flaw. a grownup is supposed to go be able to go at it for like 5-6 hours without the embarrassing "passing out face first into the salad" eventual outcome. when you're in your 30s, you should be able to do it for 5-6 hours, then be able to freshen up and do work, etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-21 00:57 phf: but yeah self control is important, and i think a lot of people who do it through their lives turn into alcoholics
mircea_popescu: the only thing being that life expectancy of "50 something" is too short to make it obvious.
mircea_popescu: but if you plan to do it for 50 years instead of the usual 30-something, your liver will give out most certainly.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re "face in salad", all the "party girl" pictures of passed out sluts are degrading NOT for the anglopuritan reasons, but strictly because these adult looking women apparently fail at being not-12.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 21:17 mod6: the goal is and remains this: get the trb build infrastructure completed, once and for all. close out this portion of development with the completion of that (Makefiles) and a subsequent tying vpatch to mark the milestone.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-21 01:00 phf: also sop in i.t. "friday happy hours" at shitty bars until everyone's blacked out
BingoBoingo prefered quiet desk drinking as is in the logs.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i fear that the great cvas society went the way of the cafe society decades prior. people just don't get out enough / maintain social circle enough / whatever for it to wkr.
BingoBoingo: Well that's because Facebook, dying as it is did its damage.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the coolest thing about the inner peace deal is that when its time to flip the wrath bit, it means something.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo not even sure. the decay was evident in the 90s. might as well say the berlin wall falling did its damage.
mircea_popescu: ftm, it's not even clear the cafe society was sunk by the titanic sinking or by it existing. but anyways.
gribble: Current Blocks: 426142 | Current Difficulty: 2.1737548275723764E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 427391 | Next Difficulty In: 1249 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 2 hours, 38 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
gribble: Current Blocks: 426181 | Current Difficulty: 2.1737548275723764E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 427391 | Next Difficulty In: 1210 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 12 hours, 22 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
znort987: after the great schism, was the wot forked as well ?
znort987: or more practically, is there a page where the wot as used in #trilema can be explored ?
deedbot: L1: 1, L2: 2 by 4 connections.
mircea_popescu: that's the mechanismcurrently ; mike_c- made a visualizer but it was never updated, so it has old/assbot data.
mircea_popescu: speaking of which... who wants to make a visualizer already ? i tried emailing the guy months ago but no answer.
znort987: mircea_popescu: but how does one get to the comments entered along with ratings ?
shinohai: mircea_popescu: I spoke with mod6 about a v-style wot viewer, now may be the time to expound upon said idea.
mircea_popescu: znort987 deedbot has a json for that, lemme find it for it
shinohai: Por razon de eso no llegaste ayer.
mircea_popescu: listen : go to the president cafe or w/e it'scalled, the one right across from the teatre / across the street from that park, an' take some pics.
☟︎ trinque: voy a reemplazar wiki de mierda con wp-mp
trinque: k, ha, a chick on out cruise said the same
trinque: I'm off to the rainforest for now.
shinohai hands trinque juju beads against zika
trinque: muchas gracias mircea_popescu
znort987: trinque: thx, what I was looking for.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: first case of koch-gpg / openshit-ssh keys sharing a factor. pity it's such a lulzy one, HOWEVER, it does make the "sks error" nonsense just a little more lulzy.
gribble: jurov was last seen in #trilema 1 day, 1 hour, 32 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <jurov> so far not, but i will turn it off if something arises that needs nontrivial fix
shinohai shinohai has krusty tardstalk account
mircea_popescu: shinohai i need some noobs to labour for me in eulora. put a post up wherever it fits, jobs board if they have it ? saying that i'll pay 1 bitcent / 2 hours of work. first task is to get gpg key made and registered with deedbot after which install game and ask for acct. once they're in they get the first bitcent, after which they'll get tasks.
shinohai: kk mircea_popescu ... I'll find relevant section and make up a post
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 12:40 mircea_popescu: so on other news, i am writing teh republic's "cia factbook", and on the matter of gdp i would like to have an estimate of the "fair market value of the total time donated to republic during 2015" in the estimation of everyone involved. detailed is better, but nothing over a page omg.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-19 17:41 thestringpuller: PeterL: partially. They use butane solvents for the initial extract on the east coast cause higher yields, but butane sucks.
ben_vulpes: i haven't seen a vial prepared in any other way in over a year
ben_vulpes: there are companies selling turnkey extraction systems even.
phf: william gibson predicted everything, i claim as far as futurists go, he's been on point for a few decades now
thestringpuller: So scrubs resort to dirty ass butane they can get from like home depot.
gribble: Current Blocks: 426230 | Current Difficulty: 2.1737548275723764E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 427391 | Next Difficulty In: 1161 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 5 hours, 4 minutes, and 5 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: phf dandys always end up faggots. it is the way of the world, ordained by orson scott welles.
shinohai: I guess I'll babysit it and see if we get any bites
shinohai: Just noticed I had used the <a> tags, replaced with BBcode nau
mircea_popescu: a cool. neways, ima be off to... well things, but ima be back in a few hours in case anyone actually shows up. ta da.
danielpbarron: "Bitcoin doesn't enforce checksums at the protocol level either." << is this true? A block that includes a transaction which spends to an address with an invalid checksum can be considered valid?
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> So scrubs resort to dirty ass butane they can get from like home depot. << What they don't carry CO2 at your home depot? You live in the Capital of Home Depot!
mircea_popescu: * umoguny has quit << lol why is this shit so hard seriously nao.
deedbot: edw voiced for 30 minutes.
danielpbarron: why do people go to the trouble of making burn addresses that have valid checksums if such a thing isn't enforced by consensus rules?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's enforced in the sense high-s is enforced : miners won't mine it.
BingoBoingo: <danielpbarron> why do people go to the trouble of making burn addresses that have valid checksums if such a thing isn't enforced by consensus rules? << Because you can either make baby or you can make baby but feed girl levaqin while baby is baking.
mircea_popescu: ok, you're like the champ of bad metaphors, but that one's the worst yet. wut ?!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: levaquin and related antibiotics do the weird arm/stump/hand-ish birth defect.
danielpbarron: so invalid address is a thing like nlock is a thing. What is the republic's take on that? I know nlock isn't well regarded, but what is the harm in rejecting invalid address? or is there no such thing as an invalid address?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron nothing wrong with rejecting invalid addresse.s
mircea_popescu: seeing how they're oft typed by hand, it's a common courtesy.
danielpbarron: a courtesy that might cause a block to be orphaned, i guess is the primary reason to no actually enforce it
deedbot: kunickis voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2013-10-13 20:09 mircea_popescu: please do.
mircea_popescu: dun hate, the bitcoin community! is going to do things! ANY MINUTE NAO.
ben_vulpes: the kapersky blog attempts to append to the pastebuffer with js anything copied from a page on "threatpost.com"
mircea_popescu: dumb shit, was all the rage among a certain set a few years ago.
mircea_popescu: oh ben_vulpes i thought you were on about the tardstalk thing. no, i know/knew who chsados was.
mircea_popescu: the interbitcoin was a lot tighterly knit five years ago, chiefly because much fewer "business" tards.
mircea_popescu: Robert Rohloff, a 34-year police veteran who has to worry about staffing, budgets, and patrolling the busiest commercial district in Tulsa, says there’s nothing funny about Walmart’s impact on public safety. He can’t believe, he says, that a multibillion-dollar corporation isn’t doing more to stop crime. Instead, he says, it offloads the job to the police at taxpayers’ expense."
mircea_popescu: so what the fuck IS the police there for and why the fuck is a private corp's job to "fight crime" and why the everloving fuck would they pay taxes if they're supposed to fight crime on their own anwyay
BingoBoingo: Eh, walmart lost the part of their institutional memory that contained substantial cattle herding prowess around the time they turned into the town commons
mircea_popescu: the derping is amusing. "oh, why do these people running the CHEAPEST store not spend money like the people running not-so-cheap-stores? ???"
BingoBoingo: Anyways the big shift seemed to happen when they went all in on the grocery business and started eating the foodstamp racket from both ends
mircea_popescu: at some point libtards will have to wake up to the realisation that their implementation of freedom, for all its warts, has created a bunch of idiots, who are good for nothing but to shoplift and maaaaybe assault.
mircea_popescu: not that they'll do that if they can in any way help it, obviously.
mircea_popescu: "oh it's walmart's fault". no bitch, it's your fault for thinking joe's daddy may not bitchslap joe's mommy, and teachers shouldn't keep a leather whip by the markbook just in case, and so on and so forth.
phf: it'll be someone else's fault till the very end
mircea_popescu: yeah. damn that walmart for not spending money it doesn't have and "offloading" the police's job on the police at "Taxpayers" (=walmart) expense.
phf: pretty sure Hillary can fix it
mircea_popescu: i thought hillary thought america is already great ? what fixing.
mircea_popescu: might be the same big-socialist-party candidate stupid enough to run on a panglossian ticket for first term.
phf: asciilifeform: do you have a gnupg1 version, that can be used as a trb-like base? i want to go through an execise of reading a diff between some version that can be relied on with all the disclaimers and whatever's in the trunk