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shinohai: Maybe I should switch to an
ethereum-based database >.>
mircea_popescu: though it'd seem they've learned their etherape lesson and are much more conservative on the fiat side. prolly will be more like doge than
ethereum. anyway.
danielpbarron imagines the lulz one might farm from laundering bitcoin first through
ethereum or a similar scam, as a step between coinbase and bitbet, to see if someone else gets stuck with the 'blacklisted' coinz
mats: shinohai: I don't want to read about
ethereum or
ethereum-likes unless it is about holders being herded into cattle cars and gassed
mircea_popescu: ~same reason nobody sane is doing the "buy
ethereum" whatever.
mircea_popescu:
ethereum "publicly traded company" ? in what alternate universe.
BingoBoingo:
https://archive.is/E7JJG << Delusion Update "Instead, Seaman noted, Classic is an “insecure orphan chain” being promoted in a way that would be illegal if
Ethereum were a publicly traded company, which it could eventually be." and other lol
mircea_popescu: and in other
ethereum news : the "white hack" attackers... stole... the pot.
mircea_popescu: like, if
ethereum-classic created some dilutive
ethereum coins to pay off random idiots to run their chain instead of the
ethereum-fork. or vice-versa.
mircea_popescu: it protected the people involved in its various wars, from iraq to bitcoin, ever so grandiosely well. it even managed to protect its ground installations in say libya, or for that matter
ethereum...
mircea_popescu: this is how the
ethereum humiliation worked ; and why ; and wherefore. and it's how the bitfinex thing played out, for the same reasons.
mircea_popescu:
ethereum forked by "agreement of the community", does the result satisfy your expectations, for instance ?
ben_vulpes: dude the past week has raised my shits given about
ethereum from zero to like a half
ben_vulpes: but the notion of a "fits in head"
ethereum contract boggles the mind, so.
shinohai: I have gotten more entertainment out of
Ethereum than I have from anything in this space in a long time
mircea_popescu: so basically, "the business case for
ethereum is just as good as for bitcoin" just got kicked a little in the teeth with a big fat "DO NOT USE CONTRACTS FOR ANY PURPOSES!!111".
BingoBoingo: In other news, some derp is dreaming about mustering enough miners to 51% the
ethereum chain that didn't hardfork in a time travel theft. Idiot appears to be neglecting that much hash would make his chain vulnerable.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-23 16:07 mircea_popescu: oh, right, there's also a whole pile of claims re insider trading, manipulation etc over the "price" of "
ethereum" at kraken and poloniex.
mircea_popescu: lol look at un-bailed out
ethereum version, tripled overnight ?
mircea_popescu: and so they KNOW what
ethereum will be used for in the future ?
BingoBoingo: Just because
ethereum is rolling in lulz we can't be saying corn futures are up when in fact they have fallen like a rock because "What the fuck are we going to do with all this corn?
BingoBoingo: The part where they had the classic
ethereum anyways and likely wanted to head off the pain in court by giving the tokens to the victims they tried to steal them from when they first decided to pretend the tokens didn't exist.
mats: i don't see what poloniex and bitfinex have to gain by including '
ethereum classic' along with '
ethereum'
mircea_popescu: this however leaves them very fucking exposed, because they wet panties over "oh, hard fork
ethereum will set such great example!!1eleven". it will. for whom ?
thestringpuller: All the ether and DAO huffers were like, "We are just doing this cause we have no other choice! We have to fork cause Vitalik told us
Ethereum dies if we dont!"
mircea_popescu: oh, right, there's also a whole pile of claims re insider trading, manipulation etc over the "price" of "
ethereum" at kraken and poloniex.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: in point of fact,
ethereum happened in the mit media lab.
interviewee: did they write any part of the slock.it code or solidity or
ethereum?
mircea_popescu: ~anyone holding as much as a farthing "worth" of
ethereum presently has overhead the possible claim here discussed, with its treble damages and whatnot.
thestringpuller: Never though
Ethereum would become more scandalous than paycoin.
thestringpuller: the
ethereum hard fork is making the VER-ified crowd go wild.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-19 12:16 thestringpuller: Also they are nailing the doors shut on Ether tomorrow until "clear winner": "As a Poloniex customer, you do not need to do anything. The migration will occur automatically, and your full balance of
Ethereum will be transferred to the winning chain. Keep in mind that as we near the fork, we will be temporarily disabling deposits and withdrawals in preparation for the migration process. Trading will continue
thestringpuller: Also they are nailing the doors shut on Ether tomorrow until "clear winner": "As a Poloniex customer, you do not need to do anything. The migration will occur automatically, and your full balance of
Ethereum will be transferred to the winning chain. Keep in mind that as we near the fork, we will be temporarily disabling deposits and withdrawals in preparation for the migration process. Trading will continue to operate as normal during
☟︎ shinohai: "TheDAO and HF have already led to a lot of learning, bug fixes, additional research and development of contracts and platform, consensus building, and user education. So the
Ethereum platform is already more valuable than before."
Framedragger: and some exchanges will add 'ETHC' (classic non-HF
ethereum) pairs. popcorn will be consumed
mircea_popescu: "This is why I love
Ethereum. The main net is live for less than a year, yet tthis is the third big convention. " to quote the locals.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-08 12:57 mircea_popescu: o hey look at that,
ethereum actually up 2.5%.
mircea_popescu lolz at the shitcoins. bitcoin cap 10bn, yest trade 1/4 bn (2.5%) ;
ethereum "cap" 800mn, yest trade 11mn (1.2%) ; ripple "cap" 250mn (hey, recall when it was 1bn+, above
ethereum ?), yest trade 500k (0.2%).
mircea_popescu: you can ask the
ethereum huffers to be fucking sane already until you fall over. but #etherape and a few short weeks later they've all woken up.
mats: btc history repeats on small intervals, 'ripple' and 'stellar' were
ethereum before
ethereum, etc...
mats: fun fact,
ethereum is a scam
mircea_popescu: o wait,
ethereum is a shitcoin therefore bitcoin something something ?
mircea_popescu: usg wants to save poloniex (ie, the owners, while somewhat tools, dun wanna be all-the-way tools) so you know, it'll just delist
ethereum and that's that.
mircea_popescu: (this, incidentally, was the main and is now the ~only reason for the
ethereum hard fork. give a plausible excuse as to why nobody's trading it)
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 12:45 mircea_popescu: but anyway, asciilifeform 's prediction proceeding right on schedule. the "indepedndent" usg tool and "
ethereum developer" finds time to discuss bitcoin as that "innovative project" burns to the ground. because truly it wasn't all about trying to fuck up bitcoin all along. nothing of the sort,
ethereum was a serious effort by serious people with their own heads and etc.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, asciilifeform 's prediction proceeding right on schedule. the "indepedndent" usg tool and "
ethereum developer" finds time to discuss bitcoin as that "innovative project" burns to the ground. because truly it wasn't all about trying to fuck up bitcoin all along. nothing of the sort,
ethereum was a serious effort by serious people with their own heads and etc.
☟︎ shinohai: reddit.com/r/
ethereum/comments/4r43ps/chinas_major_influence_over_bitcoin/d4yjy7t <<< Butterin "I can't fix
Ethereum but this is how I would fix segwit"
mircea_popescu: "I am hoping there will be a hard fork and all is resolved soon so that we can go back to normal days with the excitement of watching and reading about all the innovation that is going on with
Ethereum. Maybe /u/vbuterin if you have time."
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 01:35 mircea_popescu: in other news nobody cares about,
ethereum komoonity turning ugly with "what if fork doesn't get consensus" and other anxieties.
mircea_popescu: in other news nobody cares about,
ethereum komoonity turning ugly with "what if fork doesn't get consensus" and other anxieties.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1) nobody of the "background and experience in management experience spawns many years" derps running
ethereum built from source, or COULD build from source. i've seen enough of those lolz in eulora to have a pretty close idea ; 2. nobody's asking you to run trinque's shit on your box, so there's a difference here. but 1 and 2 aside, absofuckinglutely wtf. this isn't about tivoization of code.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform obviously. because you know, "
ethereum hole" is no longer google-trending. so therefore they must have.
mircea_popescu: yeah well. the whole "open source/free software" delusion has gone long enough ; time to take it behind the bikeshed and put a bullet in its brain. leaving aside the entirely misguided communist nonsense of stallman, which is already discussed int he logs, look at what open source did for
ethereum, since he mentioned it.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-29 15:20 mircea_popescu: meanwhile,
ethereum itself is brought to you by ming chan, "an mit alumna", vitalik buterin, which you no doubt remember as an obscure bitcoin punk, jeffrey wilcke, bernd lapp ("bern lapp's background and experience in management experience spawns many years"), stefano bertolo, yessin schiegg, willioam mougayar, thomas greco (omise), and vladislav martynov. see
https://archive.is/Se89j mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492644 << amusingly, judging by the comment count on the official announcement of the latest blunder ("for best results running our fix for the attack - please don't run it at all!"), even 1k total seems exaggerated.
ethereum is dead as disco, will take at least 6 months to re-inflate. prolly more like 18. and i somehow doubt the "many years spanned by experience in experience" people have t
☝︎ mircea_popescu: meanwhile,
ethereum itself is brought to you by ming chan, "an mit alumna", vitalik buterin, which you no doubt remember as an obscure bitcoin punk, jeffrey wilcke, bernd lapp ("bern lapp's background and experience in management experience spawns many years"), stefano bertolo, yessin schiegg, willioam mougayar, thomas greco (omise), and vladislav martynov. see
https://archive.is/Se89j ☟︎ adlai: and
ethereum is a billion dollar testnet
mircea_popescu:
ethereum community reads more and more like paycoin community.
mircea_popescu: "One cannot imagine
Ethereum community doing nothing in response to an existential hack. Doing nothing would say we lack courage and we let thieves walk away with their loot. HF is a must now. The community is reaching a new consensus."