phf: can still see front page
phf: mircea_popescu: it seems like you have some totally custom avatar logic on trilema? do you have patches for that?
mircea_popescu: phf there's two main points of the split between mp-wp and automattic-wp. one is that i shot the akismet idiocy in the head (mp-wp antispam system works way the fuck better, and doesn't you know, run arbitrary code from the automattic equivalent of disqus, shambling abominable horror of untold proportions).
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the other is that instead of calling gravatar, it just puts out avatar.png from commenter's webpage.
mircea_popescu: because gravatar thing is utter bullshit also. but i'm not terribly convinced this scheme's so great either.
phf: so it's <?php echo $comment_author_url; ?>/avatar.png or you go to top level domain?
mircea_popescu: $url_parsed = parse_url($comment->comment_author_url);
mircea_popescu: if ($comment->user_id==1) echo "<img alt='",$comment->comment_author,"`s avatar' src='
http://trilema.com/avatar.png' class='avatar avatar-32 photo' height='32' width='32' />"; else if ($url_parsed["host"].$url_parsed["path"] > "") echo "<img alt='",$comment->comment_author,"`s avatar' src='",str_replace("//avatar.png","/avatar.png",$url."/avatar.png' class='avatar avatar-32 photo' height='32' width='32' />"); else echo "<im
mircea_popescu: at the rate we're going, #trilema is going to end up in google for php queries huh.
phf: we're going to start getting random people with nonexistent english comprehension going "kind sir or madam please help wordpress plugin"
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 23:58 asciilifeform: the 1 is clickable
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 02:08 asciilifeform: fwiw my old site uses the ancient evils.
phf: mircea_popescu: which file was the above lifted from?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how you imagine making a monkey out of the reader's acceptable or anything.
mircea_popescu: phf same comments.php in my theme ; but in general wherever the theme outputs comments
phf: today on trilema we're regressing!
ben_vulpes: 'mircea_popescu and friends wordpressinate with mixed results'
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "what started as a channel dedicated to lisp and assorted snobbery totally devolved into apache and php club"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: have you considered an org mode -> html export?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: too much failed in one paragraph tho. "their beloved if irrelevant" ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 02:24 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: have you considered an org mode -> html export?
mircea_popescu: nobody spetn as much time playing doom as it'd take to read trilema.
mircea_popescu: " revealed to much lulz that many miners were using a simplified form of verification when they were selecting blocks to build off of which lead to splits when it turned out "soft" forks aren't so soft." << " revealed that many miners were using simplified (and dysfunctional) chain verification, to abundant lols and chain splits. Turns out "soft" forks aren't all that soft!" ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 02:19 mircea_popescu: lol thestringpuller been a busy little blogger lately has he
gribble: Current Blocks: 419208 | Current Difficulty: 2.0945315859538098E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 419327 | Next Difficulty In: 119 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 19 hours, 41 minutes, and 47 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 02:07 mircea_popescu: phf there's two main points of the split between mp-wp and automattic-wp. one is that i shot the akismet idiocy in the head (mp-wp antispam system works way the fuck better, and doesn't you know, run arbitrary code from the automattic equivalent of disqus, shambling abominable horror of untold proportions).
mircea_popescu: receive in that total, meaning that out of 100k they rarely actually published as many as 1k comments. the rest's just spam.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 02:23 ben_vulpes: #trilema goes slummin
mircea_popescu: its crowning achievement is, no doubt, the blog. this is what php exists to do, blog software. not, ironically, "forum" (ie, web-replacement bbs) software, which is what it's mostly used to do.
mircea_popescu: that requires users and sessions, neither of which is php capable to handle at all. but notice that blogs DO NOT require users, nor do they need sessions. nor, for that matter, cookies.
mircea_popescu: yet again there was a right thing to do (network of blogs) and a fucktardedly wrong thing to do (www-"forum") and the shithead community chose to do the wrong one. for obvious social reasons, it's way the fuck harder to write a blog than to "participate" in a "consensus".
mircea_popescu: everywhere you turn with this already. a sickening display.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-03 19:40 mircea_popescu: also - if anyone feels like undertaking maintenance for this, on like a V tree and everything, i wouldn't be at all against.
shinohai: mircea_popescu: you need someone to maintain a vanilla wp setup?
shinohai: To me that would mean stripping as much crud as humanly possible lol.
mircea_popescu: and make it v'd. anyway, more than willing to mentor you along, you wouldn't be stepping into abyss.
shinohai: Sounds good to me, is that tar.gz mentioned in link still available? I will pull it down when I get back from town this afternoon.
shinohai: Actually I can d/l now while having tea
mircea_popescu: step 0 would be to apply phf's patches and get it up. step 1 would be to get everything (not the theme, everything else) into one single file, and have it still work.
mircea_popescu: that'll make the crud obvious and simplify the task of cleannup.
mircea_popescu: once you get that you genesis it as a V tree, and then patching can begin.
shinohai: Yeah makes sense, sounds like a plan.
shinohai: Encrypted with wrong gpg key tho mircea_popescu
shinohai: BingoBoingo: I probably get 4-5 nasty DM's a day on twitter calling me the same thing xD
BingoBoingo: Oh, I don't get those, but also rarely visit twatter anymoar
shinohai: I guess I should an hero because I believe scarcity in blocks is good.
mircea_popescu: lulziest about this block thing is the derpy miners arguing against their interest on the basis of social media gargle.
shinohai: I have a script that auto posts Qntra stories, and occasionally use twitter to troll. But I have less and less time for that anymore.
shinohai: And that one worked fine mircea_popescu thx
shinohai: So if I understand correctly, you want a single page, e.g. wordpress.php that does almost everything.
mircea_popescu: everything except the theme stuff. that should be in theme.php
mircea_popescu: (best import phf's basic theme so you can see shit works)
shinohai: reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/4r43ps/chinas_major_influence_over_bitcoin/d4yjy7t <<< Butterin "I can't fix Ethereum but this is how I would fix segwit"
mircea_popescu: but anyway, asciilifeform 's prediction proceeding right on schedule. the "indepedndent" usg tool and "ethereum developer" finds time to discuss bitcoin as that "innovative project" burns to the ground. because truly it wasn't all about trying to fuck up bitcoin all along. nothing of the sort, ethereum was a serious effort by serious people with their own heads and etc.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: too bad the bad bitcoin wolf fucked it all up for them.
mircea_popescu: in other cvasi-lulz, ro whore, ex wife & baby's momma of ro footballer, discussing their split-up : "you can't make a whore into a housewife ; nor an athlete into a respectable man"
shinohai: All whores must be kept on leash.
mircea_popescu: the young ones, i guess. but in principle, the definition of a whore is exactly that : woman that's fine naked.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like alf's dream, can parachute her with no resources on island, will be fine.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 12:45 mircea_popescu: but anyway, asciilifeform 's prediction proceeding right on schedule. the "indepedndent" usg tool and "ethereum developer" finds time to discuss bitcoin as that "innovative project" burns to the ground. because truly it wasn't all about trying to fuck up bitcoin all along. nothing of the sort, ethereum was a serious effort by serious people with their own heads and etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, swan's song. they know he's exposed ; gave up and are burning the asset.
mircea_popescu: 50-50 odds it's even the physical buterin, the guy with the misshapen skull, actually writing the item.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you mean poloniex, it's been in wash trading mode for a week +
mircea_popescu: it's "going down" in the hopes of capturing the occasional dizzy derp. not going too well.
mircea_popescu: nicely mirroring the situation a year+ ago, when i couldn't find any owners to borrow from for the life of me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform brontosaurus gotta graze. can has hay ? no ? can has grass ? no ? then can has hay ? no ? then can has grass ? no ? how about lettuce ? fern ? hay ? grass ? lettuce ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, re teh state of the bitcoin - lettuce not allow all the countless things we're doing distract. even if the summer of forks was defeated politically, so we blessfully didn't have to fight the battle on the technological field, mod6 still needs all the help he can get.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not remarkable, woman cosigned on a loan. this is the point of cosignature.
mircea_popescu: default for the purposes of cosigning means the cosigner pays.
mircea_popescu: that's what a guarantoor does : "give x this much, and if he won't pay, i will". it's an ancient institution, the piece of shakespeare i butchered revolves around it.
mircea_popescu: yeah. i mean sure, it's cowsy interest "human piece" etc.
mircea_popescu: but as far as any possibility of working anything is concerned, there's nothing remarkable here. "i made my bed on highway, got run over".
mircea_popescu: "let's break things for stupid people". recurring theme of "modern democracy" altogether ; so much so it's obviously at the core of the stupidity involved.
mircea_popescu: anyway, sane people, which is to say business people, take insurance in such a deal. whether the principal is a dumb kid or a warehouse, you insure against it's destruction specifically so you don'tend up in this "guarantor pays through no fault".
mircea_popescu: she was more than likely offered life insurance for the kid, declined it to save 25 bux a month or w/e
mircea_popescu: that part, of course, needn't be mentioned, because "who cares more about sanity than '''people themselves''' is the bad thing mkay!"
mircea_popescu: anyway, to bridge this to finance : this is the fundamental difference between shares and bonds. a bond is owed on irrespective of how the business does ; shares only fraction of what the business did.
mircea_popescu: the woman is trying to convert bondholders on a lossy entreprise into shareholders, because of course she would.
mircea_popescu: reason scamcoins / forum scams always go the same way is, basically, this woman. stupid people are all stupid the same.
mircea_popescu: hey, business is business. the fool's never on the tender side of any bargain.
mircea_popescu: (business closes as acceptance of tender - so between a tenderer and an acceptor)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is not legitimately their concern in capitalismus.
mircea_popescu: but yes, the whole thing's dead, we're debating which dead cell's at fault in the dead tissue.
mircea_popescu: in fairness, once bailing begins, the details are forever being worked until everyone is dead.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wasn't the Framedragger_ lot ~20mn keys ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 10:24 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-04#1496683 << i'm not even sure that's true, ftr. php is actually a fine language FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE. hypertext preprocessor ffs! it's not even a language, as such! just a preprocessor, like an early scripting language.
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-28 03:38 mod6: <+asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: i lived in a ~hole for 20 yrs. << you can come live in my basement if you're tired of paying rent. i've even got a garden. :]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform holy shit what is wrong with this crap. who. WHO!!!! can think ls may say that.
mircea_popescu: why not you knwo, "an unspecified specification has eggoged. please retry to abort."
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: if I buy you a shed like the one in timasora, and mod6 installs it on his property, will you please just go live there and save money?
gabriel_laddel: $s People generally wish to be rich for all sorts of reasons and mental constructions that scarcely survive the transformative process which becoming rich entails
mircea_popescu: honestly i can't complain. as the saying goes on shittycustomers.com, "it's easy if you know what you're doing".
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 20:36 Framedragger: asciilifeform: yeah so i'll prolly end up dumping 10M ssh keys on phuctor's ass, via its web interface. i wonder if phuctor can handle parallel requests, to a point :P i won't be an asshole about it.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: you can live in the guest house. it's like a shed but with windows, and a kitchen, and a bathroom.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-08 01:50 mircea_popescu: dawg, just make those cardanos so we can sell em and that's it, let some other unfortunate soul extract himself with bountee.
mircea_popescu: hey, wadda ya want! alf is ~still~ making his original gf from back when he was 15 a pasta dinner. he just had to go to college first, find another woman, and other details.
mircea_popescu pictures 35yo woman waiting patiently for that damned pasta for the past ~20 years
gabriel_laddel: Look, I don't have your personal ledger in front of me, but wouldn't paying ZERO in rent save you a lot, even if you only do it for a year and your pet has to go live with her mother?
shinohai: After 35 years I'd wager it was as mushy as a virgin's vagina after a night in the mircea_popescu dungeon.
mircea_popescu: shinohai virgins usually do poorly the first time in the dungeon. naive cunt petrifies readily.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how are you going to make a boyfriend with that sort of attitude ?!
mircea_popescu: don't mind me, this convo reminded me of spirited not-yet-lawyeress many years ago. she, similarly, "i don't want your charity!" "fine, take your clothes off then and you'll have earned it."
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: L1: 0, L2: 2 by 2 connections.
gabriel_laddel: because wtf, it isn't that difficult and somehow I manage to be fed + sleep indoors shave and whatnont?
mircea_popescu hadn't even seen the "and pet has to live with mother" part. EPIC.
gabriel_laddel is currently shopping around for a USB drive that will hold all the masamune sources, as the current one is too small
☟︎ mircea_popescu: in fairness, i sometimes do this, except never send pet to live with HER mother. i send her to live with the more sane female cousins of mine, learn the ropes of female sanity.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: it's mod6's garden, and not a garden, a basement
mircea_popescu: and next year mod6 could come to alf's garden/basement.
mircea_popescu: they could have like an itinerant seminar of luby transforms, functional analysis and convexity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i could teach you php and you could make rent money on fiverr in no time.
mircea_popescu: will need to talk to phf for css though, i never went to that class.
mircea_popescu: in other nuts, someone should totally write a universal program improver, which takes any legal code, unrolls all for loops and reimplements them as if clauses ; and unrolls all if clauses and reimplements them as for loops.
gabriel_laddel: but must be willing to put up with having your stuff taken from time to time / "the knockout game"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, it's necessarily machine-doable, and not even that hard. kinda low hanging fruit of evil.
mircea_popescu: "she walks into a room and all anyone can think about is "...really ?!?!?!""
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> i was there, even took pet, nobody fired << lmao!
mircea_popescu: 40 deaths/100k per year. who the fuck's gonna waste a bullet on you specifically.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 15:30 asciilifeform: l0l i also missed the 'mother' thing
phf: he was just having fun, man
phf: asciilifeform: they are having their own trilema, of the appropriate level
mircea_popescu: anyone follow along the culture clash in that last article comments section ?
mircea_popescu: neway, it's like sewing on old, sunbaked rag. the more you patch, the more it breaks.
mircea_popescu: very reminescent of both the actual open sore repositories themselves, as well as that "nothing happener, sir" joke.
mircea_popescu: his lordship is called to london on urgent business ; leaves country house in hands of his chamberlain
mircea_popescu: the next day calls, "is everything ok ? " "certainly sir, everything is in order" "so nothing happened ?" "well, sir, your little black dog. he died."
mircea_popescu: we had to let the horses go when the roof was about to fall
mircea_popescu: apparently a maid that was in the wake got horny as it often happens to young women at old people's funerals, while being vigurously used from behind turned over candlestick
mircea_popescu: guy comes with just a small comment, turns out doesn't distinguish clauses, has no definitions and etc.
mircea_popescu: very popular in ro. dja recall the hruscov mis en scene ?
mircea_popescu: it's a modern classic, very well constructed in counterpoint and a well fitted denouement
ben_vulpes: does anyone remember the sound effects?!
phf: the theme was maid on mac os 9. took some screenshots, photoshoped it to size of kubrick's elements (header, vertically repeated background, footer), s/jpg/png/ in right places
☟︎ phf: morning coffee problem
ben_vulpes: eg "how dare a few kids try to stick a pinwheel in our jetstream"
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command.
deedbot: idontgetit voiced for 30 minutes.
phf: shinohai: if you unpack mp's tarball, unpack wp-content into it, apply the patch, you should end up with a working instance
phf: yeah, it requires LAMP
shinohai: Sweet, coincidentally I have a fresh lamp setup to test on.
mircea_popescu: davout am i wrong in suspecting you comprehend most php of anyone here ?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 16:49 phf: the theme was maid on mac os 9. took some screenshots, photoshoped it to size of kubrick's elements (header, vertically repeated background, footer), s/jpg/png/ in right places
mircea_popescu 's plan, if this wasn't already transparently obvious, is to convert the ball into unviersal serenissima-to-www convertor, call it serenity or whatever and be done with it.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 15:05 gabriel_laddel is currently shopping around for a USB drive that will hold all the masamune sources, as the current one is too small
trinque: my old boss ended up homeless too!
mircea_popescu: wasn't anyone living close to him btw ? how about you fucking give him a thumb drive and charge it to me, i'll buy you a salad or something next we eat together.
trinque: ben_vulpes: lost home *first* then office
ben_vulpes: yeah i heard that the last vestiges have finally been absorbed by something marginally profitable recently
trinque: to each his own complicated art-project / suicide I guess
trinque: gabriel_laddel: if you need a gentoo box to hack on I don't mind having such a thing on my network somewhere, provided you have a thing to get into it
ben_vulpes: art: if it's not masturbation, it's suicide!
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 20:48 asciilifeform: or we could chip in to buy the fella a balticastle
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do you have "a software bug" disable WRITE PROTECTION OMFG
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform love that "could". COULD upend, you see. whenever title contains a question mark, the implied question is always to be answered in the negative ; when title contains painful topic to lizard hittler, could can always be replaced by "certainly, but we'll pretend otherwise"
mircea_popescu: anyway. statistical "science" is much like chastity-belt chastity.
mircea_popescu: "The researchers used published fMRI results, and along the way they swipe the fMRI community for their “lamentable archiving and data-sharing practices” that prevent most of the discipline's body of work being re-analysed." don't wonder why.
mircea_popescu: it's for the exact reason servers had to be broken in to get the "climate scientists'" data.
mircea_popescu has been delighting in teaching very talented girl french!
mircea_popescu: "So far more than 3.6 million people have signed up the petition on the parliament.uk website. Any petition with more than 100K votes is considered for debate in parliament, irrespective of its merits either way." << epic.
mircea_popescu: anyone want the side project of introducing a petition to discuss whether the queen should be flogged naked at the gate of westminster abbey for being a nigger jewess ?
mircea_popescu: the uk prolly not relevant enough for anyone's time, but still, there it is.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wouldja stop with this "lalala i have my own hallucinated alt-reality plox partake" thing ?
mircea_popescu: be that as it may, it's like very weaksauce trolling / a pretty cancerous forced meme by now
mircea_popescu: the problem here is that asciilifeform lives in a mostly self-created world.
mircea_popescu: well, us doesn't have a rule that congress must discuss anything.
mircea_popescu: da fuck cares whether queen gets flogged. there's much better looking, younger cunts with juicier tits lined up for the flogger, lizzie's not speshul.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, having the utterly irrelevant condo owner association meeting calling itself "the parliament" face the dilemma of either ignoring its own rule or else discussing whether queen should be flogged for being nigger jewess is exactly what a good blog article is made of.
mircea_popescu: and also a fine comment on the state and aggregate value of the airstrip one economy : all it's good for, is to provide material for a blogger's article, in this manner.
mircea_popescu: kinda sad end for the derps that irritated hitler, half a century later.
mircea_popescu: myeah. well, that's what article research is all about.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so basically give it another ~yearish and qntra's gonna be all that's left ?
BingoBoingo: Likely. I mean Coindesk will likely continue as the stagnant thing it is, but eventually if they stand still in the swamp long enough malaria will get them.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo how did that go, "a man can live in the evereglades, where a man can hide an' never be found an' have no fear of the bayin' hound
mircea_popescu: but better keep movin' an' don't stand still - if the skeeters don't get you the gators will."
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Anyways there's also Ver's thing continuing along on all the Pinoy SEO USG.MIT can afford
BingoBoingo: Eh, google doesn't hate them on the generic query "bitcoin news" because both words are in their url.
mircea_popescu: back when it came out it was almost tmsr-level of good.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 21:49 mircea_popescu: ie, 50 bux
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 01:07 adlai: last i checked, tmsr has an ex-salesman? or at least a blogger who blogs a lot about how to sell
a111: Logged on 2016-07-01 01:07 mircea_popescu: adlai apparently they ran out of jews in washington.
pete_dushenski: in fact, you can tell there aren't many jews in alberta either. peeps be comin to me to broker / source aaaaall their shit atm.
pete_dushenski: apartments, cars, websites, bitcoins, and so on and so forth.
pete_dushenski: humourously, this is exactly what the inept local government is currently employing hundreds of mba grad mungaloids to do : "connect assets" and "bridge the social networks" something something
pete_dushenski just had his ears filled with so much such inept buzzwordery he can barely hear himself think
mats: is there an up to date guide to rolling trb on pogo's little-endian armv5?
☟︎ mats: i tried to run dpb's script after reading it and it puked a small hill of errors
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 22:12 mats: is there an up to date guide to rolling trb on pogo's little-endian armv5?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 21:58 mircea_popescu: then they went stupid.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 21:21 asciilifeform: do we have a man in ol' blighty?
mats: yeah, need a bitcoind for it nao
mats: then its off to cook off fireworks
mats: ok thanks asciilifeform
pete_dushenski: damndest thing : i was actually whistling the star spangled banner to myself while making my 3-egger breakfast omelette, quite out of the blue, and only several hours later recalled that it was colonial 'victory' day down south
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: last year this time i had an entire beach of canadians singing poorly but enthusiastically the same
ben_vulpes: then they decided they needed to sing 'oh canada' to make amends to themselves
ben_vulpes: double-sadly, it's not a particularly stirring anthem either.
BingoBoingo: It's better with the third verse, the one PC censors keep cutting
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: archive it? the jsbomination is strong with the daily mail
ben_vulpes: lol "their sensitivity level needs to change"
deedbot: xcfw748 voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: xcfw748: Not bad, but no compelling benefit either. Someone else here did express interest in themes, so Matbe hang around an they'll show up?
xcfw748: BingoBoingo thanks. since the work is already done, it couldn't hurt to drop it in and get a free facelift.
xcfw748: also have work already, not looking to take on projects, just interested in tidying up qntra since i read it fairly often
BingoBoingo: Well, I don't know you well enough to run your code, which is obstacles
xcfw748: i certainly don't know enough to answer that, but i could paste the css somewhere for you if you'd like to check it out
BingoBoingo: Anyways I think css wanter hinted at compennsation, but I am not certain
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 23:34 xcfw748: bah, css is harmless
xcfw748: addition of some classnames on elements, removing the table in the header in favor of css positioning