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assbot: Mycelium Announces '
Entropy' Offline USB Paper Wallet Creator
danielpbarron: but i guess it all rests on
entropy generation and that's been a target for longer than Bitcoin has existed
BingoBoingo: I run on
entropy like any good crypto process
assbot: btclittlejohn comments on PSA: brainwallet.org's "random" button uses low-
entropy Math.random()
justusranvier: If a contract is fully specified in some tangible form, then the amount of
entropy in the explaination is inversely proportional to the simpleness.
assbot: Mycelium
Entropy | Indiegogo
ThickAsThieves: "All you do is plug it into a printer's USB port, and the device uses specialized hardware to create a random number with 256-bits of
entropy."
assbot: The KillCap Refrigerator | musings on
entropy mircea_popescu: the thing is, the hardcore future problem is not resolvable, as
entropy only goes one way
teward: asciilifeform: might be because something else is installed alongside seahorse for
entropy generation, I dunno. CLI only took an hour for 4096-bit keys.
teward: agreed, asciilifeform, to be honest, CLI is my native environment, I prefer managing my keys via CLI. I just use Seahorse for generating, the GUI has a tiny bit more
entropy, and I generate only 4096-strength keys :)
joecool: though there's some people that gen the keys on smartcard and never have it touch a system, i thought it better to gen offcard (could feed more
entropy)
assbot:
Entropy - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Apocalyptic: huh, how is
entropy correlated with "degrading over time"
jurov: lol andreas schildbach is just leaking "Mycelium
Entropy" rng for printing paper wallets
mircea_popescu: the best error, like the best
entropy, is the result of a different approach than culture.
benkay: client wants to do a thing with asymmetric crypto on the major mobile platforms, my guys are handling the ios side. apple provides a handy dandy set of apis for generating keys (your second 4096 bit key on a bleeding edge iphone will take over a minute to gather 'adequate' '
entropy', btw).
benkay: wrong direction on the
entropy ladder
fluffypony: benkay: presumably due to lack of
entropy not due to it being tough to crunch?
mircea_popescu: because "dictionary" or whatever. which is fine, but also, killing them is the general goal of
entropy.
mircea_popescu: ie, not all keys work, key has to satisfy magic yubikey criteria on top of
entropy BingoBoingo: Normally the answer is the catcher calling pitches, as a great catcher is a slightly better source of
entropy than the batter
bounce: asciilifeform: I forgot who mentioned to hook a 10k resistor to a mike in, turn up the gain, and feed that to the
entropy pool. how suitable an
entropy source is that in your opinion?
artifexd: I've learned that the raspberry pi has a hardware rng. My current plan is to build use that. I'll Von Neumann it if necessary. Regardless, as soon as I get one, I'll use the tools asciilifeform recommended to measure the
entropy.
cgcardona_: i turn on loud music and shake my booty to generate extra
entropy myself
kakobrekla: yeah the
entropy on it is bad, no cardano sorry guise.
Apocalyptic: <tg2> Rngd uses more
entropy points // not in your case
tg2: Rngd uses more
entropy points
Apocalyptic: you're using /dev/urandom as a source of
entropy ?
deadweasel: oh man, i'm hungry, gonna make some
entropy.
pankkake: well then, you *were*
entropy starved
pankkake: anyway, my question was about /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail - if it's low then fixing *that* will make higher quality gpg keys faster
Apocalyptic: you're just depleting the
entropy pool for no use
tg2: and at 5 keys/s,
entropy generation is not the limitation
tg2: then you have sufficient
entropy for gpg to operate
tg2: none seemed to have an impact and gpg never complaind about lack of
entropy Apocalyptic: tg2, you're just exhausting the
entropy pool then
tg2: it is using perl to generate
entropy tg2: provides enough
entropy to get by
pankkake: tg2: fun. did you check you were not
entropy starved for your performance stats?
tg2: fk this vanity gpg generator is an
entropy whore
artifexd: Unless the bias is 100%, in which case there is no
entropy to tap so you can't get any
entropy out.
Mats_cd03: idk much about this crypto shit except that the dongle seems to have more
entropy? feel free to chime in if you know anything
jurov: hope in 50 years we'll be only poking fun about today's cargo cults of passwords,
entropy and randomness
mircea_popescu: sorry, i generally agree with his point that people overuse random for no good reason, and that
entropy isn't readily understood by the average coder,
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete just generate
entropy the traditional way.
jurov: now how hig
entropy can *that* have?
dignork:
entropy is lower to a gibberish of comparable length
jurov: they have the same
entropy benkay: memorability vs
entropy dignork: jurov, easy to remember, but
entropy is low, a lot of buttins to punch, broken hands, loss of qualification, death
Multivac: You can't escape
entropy BingoBoingo.
BingoBoingo: I kinda want an Apple II GS, i bet that can
entropy without frying.
mircea_popescu: there's a slight difference between stat analysis and
entropy measuring, but anyway
mircea_popescu: just impossible to verify
entropy quality on tiny samples.
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, just 8 bytes, I need the best
entropy i can reallistically get
mircea_popescu: each string has its own per-character
entropy, from epsilon to 8-epsilon
herbijudlestoids: soooo basically, everything fighting
entropy in any form whatsoever is now analoguous to obama trying to kickstart the economy
KRS|Gotyawallet: ;;tell jurov later just-dice user study completed..interesting results..time is a function of random number chosen, time passing increases
entropy, next data gathering, will probably use perl