jonvaage: My hunch is that I need a rating from someone assbot has rated.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jonvaage has been recorded.
BingoBoingo: jonvaage: I'm going to send you down since you can self voice nao
jonvaage: There we go. Thanks, BingoBoingo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9682 @ 0.00082207 = 7.9593 BTC [+]
assbot: June Combined Trading Statement | Bingo Blog
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.0008181 = 8.7128 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: mike_c: There's a surprise in the statement you may want to insert into your tracker...
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021756 BTC (Total: 435.13 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
mike_c: yeah, i'll update the balances and everything when all the statements get in.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6203 @ 0.00082265 = 5.1029 BTC [+] {2}
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 250 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 33k High: 222 Low: 199 VWAP: 205
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 447913.20 in 934 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -12.43
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00082428 = 2.308 BTC [+]
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 19098 BTC profit, 0.0k BTC invested, 1269.21 mio bets, 5.32 mio BTC wagered
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00082428 = 14.0128 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00082431 = 4.8634 BTC [+]
jborkl: first stage of remote address and balance query www.bcoinnews.com/addr
assbot: Whose RedBook? Why Everyone Should be Concerned By the Seizure of MyRedBook.Com | Electronic Frontier Foundation
decimation: ascii, this is proof of the point you made the other day. If USG finds a website for 'hos intolerable, how much more intolerable would a "private army" be?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.034 = 3.4 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00082434 = 3.1325 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14350 @ 0.00082718 = 11.87 BTC [+] {2}
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 641.11, vol: 9409.31340585 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 630.983, vol: 10569.31677 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 643.3, vol: 17456.11694787 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 641.965779, vol: 13701.52560000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 638.0, vol: 13.74856305 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 642.819, vol: 119.20508553 | Volume-weighted last average: 639.999779747
gribble: Error: That's all, there is no more.
gribble: Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'bitmynt', 'btsp', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'btce', 'bfx'] or 'all'
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 250 Last Price: 222 24h-Vol: 33k High: 222 Low: 199 VWAP: 205
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 457849.92 in 902 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -10.49
BingoBoingo: I wonder how much of this hashpower coming onto ATC is simply to help WoL's game of the week progress in a timely manner?
kyuupichan: BTC blocks are very slow since the retarget
gribble: Time since last block: 4 minutes and 47 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00082719 = 5.4595 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.185 = 2.035 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.18175000 / 0.18687414 / 0.19987596 (32 shares, 5.97997235 BTC), 7D: 0.18175000 / 0.19663758 / 0.22789000 (372 shares, 73.14917818 BTC), 30D: 0.18000000 / 0.22654672 / 0.32900000 (3827 shares, 866.99428805 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00082395 = 1.3183 BTC [-]
Namworld: Just came around to leave someone a message. I'm heading right back offline.
Namworld: I might be a bit on and off for the next week or two. Going to move out to a new place.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.18305 = 0.7322 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.18184697 = 7.8194 BTC [-] {7}
BingoBoingo: Or whatever the ettiquette is in your new locale
Namworld: idk, not sure we have an etiquette at all...
Namworld: I'll look on the reverse for it.
BingoBoingo: Miracle brought to us by Bitcoin: Computers that can torrent the blockchain faster than they can import it from disk
BingoBoingo: Namworld: Oh, just setting up a machine as a node. Downloaded the blockchain by torrent in about an hour. It's on hour six of importing the blackchain into Bitcoind and still has the better part of 2013 to get through.
assbot: War of Life - Cellular automaton to the death!
assbot: The dark side of .io: How the U.K. is making web domain profits from a shady Cold War land deal — Tech News and Analysis
mike_c: wow, the death bombs have been brutal
BingoBoingo: Yeah, Life doesn't seem to have been fated to take this round
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8847 @ 0.00082315 = 7.2824 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: US Marshals Mistake Causes Bitcoin Fund To Lose 100 BTC
BingoBoingo: I rather like the purple and gold. Very regal.
assbot: Rich Amish Lured Into Florida Land Investment Scheme - Businessweek
BingoBoingo: "Right away, Crill learned that Moffitt was selling securities without having registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission. So he set up a meeting with Moffitt and Paul Smucker, one of the main Amish investors, at Smucker’s house in Lancaster."
BingoBoingo: "They directed more than one company involved to send a rescission offer to all the investors—a multipage document telling them they could choose to immediately recoup their money, with 6 percent interest, if they pulled out. The rescission offer revealed a dire fiscal situation."
BingoBoingo: "According to the balance sheets of one company, Mofco Group, $1.2 million had been spent on “site construction” and $3.3 million on “other development costs,” and yet the site in Bushnell lay essentially empty. More important, there was only $65,541 cash on hand; most of the $15 million-plus that Moffitt had raised was gone. "
BingoBoingo: "An Amish friend unconnected to the Florida Thing once said to me, “You think your life is complicated and ours is simple, but it’s the opposite. You just take everything as it comes. We’re constantly having to figure out what to do with new things.” As an Amish man told Donald Kraybill, “The Amish survived persecution in Europe, but I’m not sure they’ll be able to survive prosperity.”"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4250 @ 0.00081877 = 3.4798 BTC [-]
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 226 Ask: 300 Last Price: 226 24h-Vol: 586k High: 300 Low: 199 VWAP: 277
BingoBoingo: OMFG! Did the F.MPIF PC1 statement really move the ATC market that much???
atcbot: 39k@330 30k@320 30k@300 | 47k@226 907k@199 750k@175
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell artifexd You interested in further business???
BingoBoingo: I remember what happened last time I tried to crush a bubble. If mother fuckers want to burn themselves out, I can wait this time.
assbot: If I was pitching, after Sandoval shook his first 'round the bases after homering for the 1st time in a month, somebody's getting a bruise.
benkay: <jborkl> first stage of remote address and balance query www.bcoinnews.com/addr // pardon?
BingoBoingo: benkay: How is the bedtime mandate working out?
jborkl: To find out about a bitcoin address that is not yours is a challenge
jborkl: So that is the first part, about a week and it will complete
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021760 BTC (Total: 435.21 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10740 @ 0.00081877 = 8.7936 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3944 @ 0.00081801 = 3.2262 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13143 @ 0.00081788 = 10.7494 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12296 @ 0.0008176 = 10.0532 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: If Beer Could Talk - CollegeHumor Post
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 5500 @ 0.0003476 = 1.9118 BTC [+] {9}
BingoBoingo: ENOUGH! What is wrong with you all? All I want is a drink that gets me drunk, doesn't taste like water, and doesn't fill me up so fast I start to hate it halfway through. Is that really too much to ask?
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 474760.46 in 834 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: -7.18
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00081877 = 1.9241 BTC [+]
assbot: Community renewed by Yahoo for sixth season; movie to follow?
punkman: Yahoo: now with dying TV shows
BingoBoingo: punkman: Everyone know that Yahoo's brand of death only welcomes other members of the dead
punkman: BingoBoingo: I wonder how many people still pay $299 to be listed in the Yahoo Directory
BingoBoingo: punkman: In three years, once the blog has been living on its own hardware for a while... That might be the time to throw Yahoo some pity pennies.
BingoBoingo: Yahoo might actually be a more accomplished internet troll than Weev.
cazalla: it wasn't a bad paid link back in the day
cazalla: yahoo + dmoz was some good link juice
cazalla: plus they would forget to remove the link after you paid for a year so it was typically a one off payment for perma link
BingoBoingo: Now the "search engine leader" drops weight from nearly any link more than 3 or 4 years old.
punkman: "On September 18, 2012, following years of negotiations, Yahoo agreed to sell a 20% stake back to Alibaba for $7.6 billion."
punkman: how much will that 20% be worth when Alibaba IPOs
punkman: 40% stake in Alibaba was probably the only good thing in their portfolio
punkman: "potential $221 billion valuation for Alibaba post-IPO." > so around $45 billion
BingoBoingo: Alibaba might actually have a greater value than google
punkman: yeah but it's such a shithole
assbot: College Degrees / Expertise? - Small Talk - Crazy Talk: The Crazymeds Forum
BingoBoingo: Alibaba is to small businesses what warehouse stores used to be
BingoBoingo: And then there's what it is for larger businesses
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 70 @ 0.0355 = 2.485 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.0355 = 1.704 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell bitstein What is up with the Satoshi institute surrendering to Disqus???
punkman: and then there's the planned IPO, which might be the biggest IPO yet on NYSE
BingoBoingo: punkman: Well look what alibaba does compared to what Google or Facebook does.
BingoBoingo: The later two traffic information. Alibaba enables and smooths actual commerce.
BingoBoingo: Many merchants are shitty on Alibaba, but... A lot of people like consuming and reselling shit.
BingoBoingo: Then yes, alibaba exapands into everything, provided there is an opportunity for them to take a cut of the action.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 643.91, Best ask: 646.45, Bid-ask spread: 2.54000, Last trade: 643.26, 24 hour volume: 7923.31032274, 24 hour low: 638.0, 24 hour high: 658.88, 24 hour vwap: 648.69748606
punkman: won't find a lot of lite coin here
BingoBoingo: Eh, I have some on a paper wallet somewhere
BingoBoingo: As kind of a hedge against an SHA-2 apocalypse.
BingoBoingo: The current litecoin crash really doesn't affect it though.
punkman: I got some doge on a retired disk, hoping doge will stop existing so I don't have to ever dig them out
BingoBoingo: That's about the story of altcoins other than Altcoin
manamex: is litecoin finally going down?
pankkake: BingoBoingo: it makes no sense and I am tired of this argument. … I'll reply to it when I get to finishing that article
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well it sounded like a better idea early last year... Now... Eh
BingoBoingo: Maybe eventually I redeem the LTC at 44 satoshis per agains $10k BTC
assbot: Yahoos Alibaba Windfall Means Firepower to Chase Google - Bloomberg
BingoBoingo: Shame noone in "business journalism" has the balls to suggest yahoo just sell what it can and return capital to investors.
pankkake: lol the litecoin bagholders quickly censored me again
punkman: BingoBoingo: need higher number of company
pankkake: reddit's censorship is clearly devious; you're never alerted, you don't know who does it, and you only see it by logging out
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Eh, they prolly paid more for their LTC than I did
punkman: so they will go buy out some random websites and close them down without making a profit
BingoBoingo: I say prolly because I dun remember what I bought LTC at
BingoBoingo: Sell what the derps will buy and then... just quit
punkman: that'd be better than buying more shoes for Marissa
BingoBoingo: Maybe they even sell the Yahoo brand and some other venture lets the media imagine "Yahoo" survived
punkman: Yahoo Japan should buy Yahoo
assbot: LTC we stand ! (To investors and trolls) : : litecoin
punkman: hmm, yahoo only paid $1 billion for their Alibaba share in 2005
punkman: that's some nice profit there
BingoBoingo: pankkake: LTC was only ever good as a hedge against an incredibly unlikely threat to BTC, and as a way for people who don't game to justify owning gaming hardware.
pankkake: again, no, and that was discussed here before. it does not protect against any threat
pankkake: nor is affordable by 13 year old gamers anymore
BingoBoingo: pankkake: Last year it seemed like that might be the case for a short time to a n00b
pankkake: I suppose Mac is Litecoin; it "doesn't have viruses"
BingoBoingo: SHA coins are Europe and Scrypt coins are the Middle east post Arab spring
cazalla: coblee is borderline scammer imo going to conferences, forums etc calling it silver
assbot: Adobe Ink, Adobe Slide: New tools that promise to improve drawing on tablets.
BingoBoingo: "Without any keyboard or mouse or USB ports, went the critique, the iPad would turn us into passive gobblers of commercial content. We’d read stuff, watch stuff, and listen to stuff that was spoon-fed to us. But we’d never make any stuff of our own." << exactly what happened
BingoBoingo: Then again people have been doing that since Windows 3.1
punkman: people do try to make stuff on ipads, but it's usually a novelty, "o look what I drew with mah pad"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00081754 = 13.3668 BTC [-]
punkman: "o hey dude awesome. it sucks, but I LOVE PADS"
assbot: Our Incredible Journey
assbot: Our Incredible Journey : What is an incredible journey?
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
BingoBoingo: ^ more created with a line of text than iPad fat fingers
punkman: I've been using a smartassphone since I dropped my awesome dumbphone in the toilet. I don't know how anyone can type or click anything on a touchscreen, most aggravating thing ever.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.0008187 = 19.7307 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: I actually kind miss my Blackberry from time to time... Then I remember how much Android sucked and cuddle with my beautiful flip phone
pankkake: me neither. I have a e-reader that has a touch screen, even touching to change the page… meh
pankkake: still selecting words is a pain
punkman: decided between cheapest nokia and cheapest samsung dumbphone on local website
punkman: maybe I want to hack on Symbian with 384kb RAM
assbot: Valiant prince MP explores the mother of all echo chambers. A saga of our times. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00082208 = 4.8503 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00081835 = 1.5549 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7750 @ 0.00082087 = 6.3617 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00081768 = 12.8376 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00082265 = 5.6763 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00082251 = 6.5801 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00082033 = 2.8712 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00082033 = 3.1583 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4157 @ 0.00082265 = 3.4198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03571 = 0.7142 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00081988 = 6.723 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 66 @ 0.04729069 = 3.1212 BTC [+] {19}
gribble: Current Blocks: 308874 | Current Difficulty: 1.6818461371161112E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 1589 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 8 hours, 24 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15890581764.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -5.51703
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00008117 = 0.8117 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14028 @ 0.00008202 = 1.1506 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00081951 = 1.2702 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: doubtful, could be hashing going from testing to delivery, or just luck phenomena at this new diff
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00082327 = 11.32 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.03599999 = 0.576 BTC [+]
assbot: Draper Fisher Jurvetson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
fluffypony: well with $7 billion in assets I suppose they have the money to throw at 30k BTC
assbot: Why venture capitalist Tim Draper wants to divide California into six states (interview) | VentureBeat | Business | by Dean Takahashi
ThickAsThieves: VB: Are there any sectors or companies you’re most excited about?
ThickAsThieves: "I like bitcoin. Bitcoin could really transform all of the currencies of the world. It could end up being a way for money to move much faster. Money moving faster means more liquidity, which means more wealth for the whole world, more deals. If I make a deal with you, we’re both better off. We can make those deals better and faster with bitcoin. That’s exciting."
assbot: Bitcoin startup CoinLab lands funding from Tim Draper and others, aims to help monetize games - GeekWire
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 58 @ 0.03599999 = 2.088 BTC [+]
assbot: Exclusive: Venture capitalist Draper wins U.S. Marshals bitcoin auction: Vaurum - Yahoo News
ThickAsThieves: "With the help of Vaurum and this newly purchased bitcoin, we expect to be able to create new services that can provide liquidity and confidence to markets that have been hamstrung by weak currencies," Draper said in the statement.
ThickAsThieves: The statement was issued by Vaurum, a Palo Alto-based company that facilitates over-the-counter bitcoin trading for financial institutions and high-net-worth traders, of which Draper is a major backer.
assbot: Tim Draper Wins Govt Auction, Partners With Vaurum to Provide Bitcoin Liquidity in Emerging Markets Medium
assbot: P2PSLOT:Super-cheap stock in exchange for global development
ThickAsThieves: this leaking of tiny bits of info each day is annoying
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.000092 = 0.92 BTC [+]
assbot: Vaurum - A Robust Bitcoin Exchange for Financial Institutions
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.000092 = 0.92 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 14399 @ 0.000092 = 1.3247 BTC [+]
assbot: Latest posts of: freewil
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00081951 = 2.4176 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00081951 = 10.7766 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.11111111 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 32(Y):68(N) by coin, 34(Y):66(N) by weight. Total bet: 19.77624304 BTC. Current weight: 49,780.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00081951 = 9.6702 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Charlie Shrem will discuss the lessons he has learned at the American Banker Digital Currencies convention in NYC"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00081788 = 10.0599 BTC [-] {3}
pankkake: ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 480.0, Best ask: 481.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 480.0, 24 hour volume: 132.01373316, 24 hour low: 466.0, 24 hour high: 480.0, 24 hour vwap: 475.06360682
xmj: fluffypony: damn milli malikas.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00082022 = 6.2337 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4162 @ 0.00081646 = 3.3981 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Russian authorities have softened their tone on Bitcoin; the central bank now says it won't hamper the usage of the virtual currency whereas previously it had vowed to crack down on the electronic payment instrument."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 157 @ 0.03599999 = 5.652 BTC [+]
assbot: How Government Forces the Poor Into Black Markets - Peter St. Onge - Mises Daily
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 37 @ 0.01436147 = 0.5314 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 192 @ 0.0149859 = 2.8773 BTC [+] {5}
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 654.0, Best ask: 654.03, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 654.0, 24 hour volume: 6759.24045494, 24 hour low: 638.0, 24 hour high: 658.88, 24 hour vwap: 648.468393708
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 85 @ 0.015 = 1.275 BTC [+]
kyuupichan: ThickAsThieves: All the govts are capitulating. Or are they? Not sure what it means.
kyuupichan: My exahash bet suddenly jumped from obscurity to be a high roller.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4337 @ 0.00081646 = 3.541 BTC [-]
mike_c: !isitdown blockchain.info
mike_c: not for me, and apparently not for gribble
pankkake: oh, maybe cloudflare breaking the API again
pankkake: if only dns was a protocol with resiliency and caching built into it
artifexd: ;;later tell BingoBoingo Sure.
pankkake: Host blockchain.info not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
artifexd: ThickAsThieves: Are you really looking to buy some ATC or were you making a joke?
[]bot: Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015"
http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 24.77624304 BTC. Current weight: 49,768.
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 228 Ask: 300 Last Price: 228 24h-Vol: 621k High: 300 Low: 199 VWAP: 279
gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> as a bare minimum
gribble: mp_on_a_boat was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: <mp_on_a_boat> anyway, off i go. late trall!
gribble: mp_* could be mp_a_colonia (20 hours, 14 minutes, and 50 seconds ago), mp_on_a_pony (1 day, 17 hours, 39 minutes, and 46 seconds ago), or mp_on_a_boat (1 day, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 32 seconds ago)
assbot: Bitcoin Block Explorer - Blockchain.info
gribble: Nick 'ThickAsThieves', with hostmask 'ThickAsThieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves', is identified as user 'ThickAsThieves', with GPG key id B28732FE807495EC, key fingerprint D649FD3B664A6BCF801D727EB28732FE807495EC, and bitcoin address 1NfXM69erAWPDdNrZ2k2UkuV7HDPc6Ebwk
mthreat: colonia is in uruguay, across the river from buenos aires
gribble: You have not yet rated user ThickAsThieves
pankkake: how you can trust it's really them?
gribble: You have not yet rated user fluffypony
xmj: ;;rate fluffypony 2 good chap. drinks milli malikas without batting an eye.
gribble: Error: You do not meet qualifications for entering ratings.
xmj: what do i do to get to rate someone?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.03627 = 0.6166 BTC [+]
gribble: Nick 'xmj', with hostmask 'xmj!~xmj@freebsd/developer/xmj', is identified as user 'xmj', with GPG key id FC9E29371B1B0D0B, key fingerprint 224ED70AA3AE3EF123B0CA88FC9E29371B1B0D0B, and bitcoin address None
mike_c: ah. you must have net positive ratings to rate other people, right?
xmj: so, i rate people. that decreases my future ability to rate people ?
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user artifexd has been recorded.
xmj: ;;rate fluffypony 1 good chap. drinks milli malikas without batting an eye.
gribble: Error: You do not meet qualifications for entering ratings.
artifexd: ;;rate ThickAsThieves 3 Long history of doing what he said. And he bought some ATC.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user ThickAsThieves has been recorded.
xmj: great, so mircea_popescu made me not be able to rate anyone soon
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
ThickAsThieves: punkman were you saying you are looking for odd programming jobs? I wanna get some Altcoin wallet work done
gribble: You rated user ThickAsThieves on Sat May 3 13:01:40 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Has good taste in hip-hop..
gribble: You have not yet rated user mike_c
mike_c: artifexd: you must have positive rating to nanotube
mike_c: ;;gettrust nanotube xmj
davout: thestringpuller: good taste in hip hop sounds like an oxymoron
artifexd: ;;gettrust nanotube mircea_popescu
punkman: ThickAsThieves: C/C++ not really my thing, but I'd give it a look
artifexd: mp is the source of xmj's negrating
assbot: therealaltcoin/altcoin GitHub
xmj: i described how many of the startups use amazon web services.
xmj: he didn't like that very much, lol
ThickAsThieves: the source is currently more up to date than the packages
pankkake: xmj: mp replied "no soup for you"
ThickAsThieves: but also would like to integrate mike_c 's new seeds. subdomain thing
mike_c: that would be great.. not sure we ever got the dns sorted.
ThickAsThieves: i'm also open to requests from others for features or polish to take care of for ATC stuff
artifexd: xmj: See if you can get MagicalTux to posrate you. That would offset mp's negrate.
ThickAsThieves: if you want that work and whatever work that probly turns into, lemme know a price or estimate or such
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xmj: artifexd: do you know what MT does professionally?
mike_c: magicaltux = mark karpeles.
artifexd: I don't think MagicalTux does anything "professionally"
gribble: You rated user MagicalTux on Thu Feb 27 08:13:53 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: ate all the coins.
artifexd: Using any reasonable definition of "professionally"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 63 @ 0.03627 = 2.285 BTC [+]
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xmj: artifexd: i'll assume you were trolling when you suggested i make up with him to counter mp's downvote..
artifexd: Trolling? No. Joking? Yeah. Hence my next line started with "That was a joke. Seriously though...."
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xmj: artifexd: hrm, it's one of those days, didn't see that.
artifexd: No worries. Take a breath. Regroup. Learn to use the tools at your disposal (brain, eyes, wot, google). Come back stronger, better.
xmj: I blame myself for drinking tequila with fluffypony yesterday.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.037 = 1.147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10050 @ 0.00081646 = 8.2054 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete that instagram doesn't load anything for me. what is it ?
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: it's tim's kid taking a picture of his dad and two younger … ya
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 653.92, Best ask: 654.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.07000, Last trade: 654.0, 24 hour volume: 7165.73170950, 24 hour low: 638.0, 24 hour high: 658.75, 24 hour vwap: 649.402772905
assbot: Betting On Big Drop, Shorts Borrow All the GoPro Stock They Can - MoneyBeat - WSJ
bitcoinpete: "the percentage of shares available to loan that are actually being borrowed–is near 100%,"
bitcoinpete: mounting clips for everything and anything
ThickAsThieves: whole thing could be upheaved by a well-placed kickstarter project
benkay: no one expects the kickstarter upheaval!
mircea_popescu: this is the lulzy thing about "headcount-based" ipos and perception of value :
mircea_popescu: it's basically dotcom bubble v2.0. nothing easier to fake than headcount. except perhaps clicks.
mircea_popescu: and when i say fake, i include things such as, every year it gets easier and easier to amass headcunt, provided you promise you'll never charge a cent.
mircea_popescu: which is exactly what tat's saying : whole thing can now be upheaved by a well placed kickstarter
mircea_popescu: that doesn't mean kickstarters are valuable. it just means shit like gopro and airbnb are valueLESS
pankkake: most companies I've been in have two kind of headcounts. the real one and the investors one - both being from real data
mthreat: gopro sells actual hardware
mircea_popescu: mthreat not really. they dropship some gear some azn companies designed, made and assembled.
mthreat: their marketing seems to be similar to red bull (extreme sports marketing)
mthreat: so red bull just sells sugar + caffeine + water
mircea_popescu: the reason that shit works for coca cola (and immitators, a la red bull)
ThickAsThieves: however i wouldnt touch GPRO with a 10ft pole, way too many people thinking the same thing at opposite poles
mircea_popescu: is that sugared water with some pee in it is really trivial to make, so the entire product is the package.
mircea_popescu: this doth not work for anything that's an actual service. to be coca cola you have to be both valueless AND pointless.
ThickAsThieves: all it takes is GS to sum em up and issue a BUY rating at $100
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you know this polarization problem is perhaps the largest pile of conclusive proof that the official indicators are all fake.
mircea_popescu: in general a working economy exists to close the zero-infinity price window
mircea_popescu: when that window widens, the economy necessarily is losing contanct.
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 340 Ask: 347 Last Price: 340 24h-Vol: 771k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 287
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 534763.34 in 616 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 4.55
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00081646 = 1.6329 BTC [-]
punkman: oh nice game #10 is finished
punkman: should have bought more death
bitcoinpete: "The European Court of Human Rights on Tuesday upheld France's ban on wearing full-face veils in public, rejecting arguments that the ban undermines freedoms of religion and expression."
mike_c: stabilization is a bit strong. it's been running slow the last couple weeks, and is now running quite fast.
mike_c: pool hoppers might be back.
mircea_popescu: Est. % Change: 4.55 is what it is. it didn't have a period like this in 3 months
mike_c: yeah, it's close to 0 now because (2 weeks slow) + (1 day really fast) = little change
mike_c: i am just a lowly merchant wishing for something closer to actual stabilization. but that is unrealistic for a baby coin.
mircea_popescu: i thought you were my sock puppet. when did this merchant thing happen
mike_c: hehe. sock puppets can have day jobs
mircea_popescu: o no wait, that was pankkake. i got the fake identities mixed up
GinAddict1: oh, I'm Lawrence from GreenAddress, temporarily using this user in vacation
GinAddict1: ThickAsThieves: yep - bad/good slogan for a multisig service you reckon?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i don't recal, were we hating this thing
GinAddict1: a bit of hate maybe but we spoke a bit and it was a very reasonable conversation
GinAddict1: I actually came here for feedback so it would be great if you had any criticism
GinAddict1: I also wanted to tell Pete that someone is using his blogpost to spread FUD but i see he just got disconnected
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00081646 = 16.1659 BTC [-]
GinAddict1: mircea_popescu: we def had a really bad start, initially there was some marketing/dev mismatch and in our home we even said "Hack proof" when i actually wanted to say "Improved security"
mircea_popescu: GinAddict1 so when you say lawrence from greenaddress what do you actualy mean ? you code ? you manage ? you pr ? what ?
GinAddict1: I'm the founder, I code, I manage, I PR but more than anything I'm a bitcoiner first
GinAddict1: but coding wise i'm the least contributor
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.66972768 BTC to 11`168 shares, 14951 satoshi per share
GinAddict1: what is ba if i may ask? bitcoin average?
GinAddict1: you mean my earlier mention of someone using Pete's blog post?
assbot: GreenAddress hiding bad feedback? More proof to point towards it. : Bitcoin
mircea_popescu: specifically, " there was some marketing/dev mismatch"
GinAddict1: i miscommunicated with my graphic designer and in a table on the home there was a column called Hack proof instead of "Improved security"
ThickAsThieves: lol Hearn wins $100k bounty from reddit for software to replace BTCFundnation
GinAddict1: english not being first language for neither of us
assbot: $100,000 bounty winner announcement! : Bitcoin
GinAddict1: ThickAsThieves: I saw that, is Mike foundation friendly or? has he agreed? I don't see comments of his in the reddit post
ThickAsThieves: Mike has agreed to release the platform as open source before the end of August. He will be awarded $40,000 on completion. After the platform is live, I will put an additional $50,000 towards the first core dev crowdfunding project that gets made on it. This should help them become independent the moment it gets released, and hopefully will start streamlining Bitcoin core development
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so reddit pays to replace phlegm with cancer ?
ThickAsThieves: Does Draper's Purchase of BTC for Vaurum Add to the Total Venture Capital Balance?
mircea_popescu: GinAddict1 mike is the chief enemy plant in bitcoin. he's the guy that merged heartbleed in bitcoin for absolutely no legitimatereason, and he's the guy that forced a hard fork, idem.
assbot: Add a getutxos command to the p2p protocol by mikehearn Pull Request #4351 bitcoin/bitcoin GitHub
GinAddict1: I don't think it is a good idea at all to have it
GinAddict1: but according to others core devs it's been narrowed to the point that the obviously harmful stuff is gone
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im sure there must be a fatass white boi market somewhere.
mircea_popescu: don't knock it, whatever the pr0n, someone's rubbing to it.
mircea_popescu: GinAddict1 wait, is this one of those "let nsa put some bugs in, then take out the visible ones and it's good to go" sorta deal ?
mircea_popescu: nothing signed by gmaxwell may ever be merged. into anything. period.
GinAddict1: sorry i don't get the reference to gmaxwell and this one is .. about trusting untrusted nodes i guess
mircea_popescu: and in general, this bullshit where plants can coexist because us born engineers are cockless ended last year.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves wasn't that supposed t obe "you cunt" ?
GinAddict1: right, can I not be put on a kill list please
ThickAsThieves: i wanna know the legal deets about why i dont know this auction price yet
GinAddict1: ThickAsThieves: apparently we may find out with a FOIA request in a bit
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves they're protecting themselves as best they can.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11685 @ 0.0008162 = 9.5373 BTC [-] {3}
GinAddict1: also, does anyone know fdroid and do you like it as an alternative to the play store?
danielpbarron: 12:25:16 <+GinAddict1> do you prefer reddit or bitcointalk? << i prefer irc and twitter
assbot: S.NSA, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
danielpbarron: we were the only two people there that were already in -assets as far as i could tell
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mircea_popescu: a ok. i just met him cause he commented on my word cup bitch.
danielpbarron: he told me he couldn't get voiced and i literally lol'd
danielpbarron: I told him i'd give him a +2 for meeting face-to-face
danielpbarron: I don't know if that conversation was meant to be private but i'd like him to bring it up in here
danielpbarron: and that's the end of the list of gribble users at porcfest lol
danielpbarron: he sold me a paper wallet that he had already imported into his phone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00081605 = 2.1625 BTC [-]
assbot: S.NSA, June 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00081563 = 10.6848 BTC [-]
danielpbarron: i attended the gpg key signing party; half the users that showed up were running windows
danielpbarron: they spent most of the time settng up some portable key server
danielpbarron: all the while I was trying to convince them to just use my flash drive or better yet, get in the WoT with gribble
danielpbarron: it was at the Porcupine Freedom Festival in Lancaster, New Hampshire, USA
danielpbarron: i found a few individuals there who might do the right thing and get in the WoT
danielpbarron: the guy i accidentally ripped off is in the WoT now, user named GunPlay
GinAddict1: does anyone here use specialized hardware for gpg or just your favourite flavor of *nix ?
GinAddict1: old on purpose or by chance? i.e. worried about some RNG in recent chips?=
danielpbarron: GinAddict1, a little of both; it's what I had left over from back when I used to be into computers, and I don't trust new hardware / don't know what's good now
danielpbarron: I like that all my hardware was built before Bitcoin existed
danielpbarron: but i guess it all rests on entropy generation and that's been a target for longer than Bitcoin has existed
danielpbarron: oh! and one of the webdevs from the Bitcoin magazine offered to publish an article if i were to write one for them
GinAddict1: asciilifeform: for k? what if deterministic
ThickAsThieves: The growth in customers accounts, for both Coinbase and competitor Blockchain, continues to grow at a pretty torrid rate. Mr. Armstrong said the company is seeing growth in its user base of about 3-4% a week, and has jumped from 100,000 accounts a year ago to about 1.4 million now.
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mircea_popescu: what are you, dumb or something ? a fake market in which some banks play with infinite money, waht are you gonna do ?
pankkake: I don't understand why anyone would listen to trading advice anyway
pankkake: at least, free, public trading advice
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> what are you, dumb or something ? probly, but i dont feel the sting just yet
mircea_popescu: pankkake now turn that around. do you understand why anyone'd listen to relationship advice ?
ThickAsThieves: and it is nice seeing other firms calling GS scammers the day after
mircea_popescu: it makes zero sense, but women like to belong, and this is driven into them deeper than reason. so... they listen.
pankkake: there is every reason to withold good trading advice and publish bad trading advice
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves no but he knows you know ? 's not thought it through for two minutes, and yet :D
pankkake: if I tell women they should swallow, everyone benefits. if I tell they should buy the thing I plan to buy before them, I lose
mircea_popescu: if you're supposed to be rich and the plebs poor, telling them to buy etc also everyone benefits.
assbot: BCE : la subvention dont personne ne parle | Contrepoints
pankkake: effectively subsidizing out banks
gribble: What do you think I am, a shell?
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gribble: Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "canstringlag" is not a valid command.
mike_c: <+ThickAsThieves> yep, like GS unloading all their NFLX this week << no no, there's an invisible wall between the trading desk and the rating guys. they have NO IDEA what each other are doing. really, they promise!
assbot: double-conversion ups is neat - Imgur
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0385 = 0.9625 BTC [+]
pankkake: asciilifeform: does it tell you how efficient it is?
pankkake: I have UPSes but only the passive ones
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.03898887 = 1.1697 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: ouch, right. not sure I want to pay 20% extra
pankkake: I used to live in a place that fried my psus every few months
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 34 @ 0.0499985 = 1.6999 BTC [+]
pankkake: well, the cheap ups I got at that time was enough, though it eventually died :)
pankkake: yes, that's what the two I have seem to do. they go to battery sometimes even when there's no visible power cut
pankkake: so, I suppose it helps my hardware live a longer, happier life
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.03949109 = 1.7771 BTC [+] {3}
pankkake: yes, I know, I just wondered how "worth it" it was
pankkake: I'd rather invest in something with a big battery; I want the thing to stay up if I'm not there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 9 @ 0.059 = 0.531 BTC [+] {4}
pankkake: 80mm's okay… I hate the smaller ones
terp: whens the next trip to the moon?
terp: i needa buy my tickets
assbot: The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.00081605 = 3.1353 BTC [+]
terp: what are these crazy californians doing legalizing bitcoin and marijuana?
benkay: desperate bid for relevance?
terp: its all ready the hippy mecca
assbot: Sotheby's London Hits High Notes with 93 Million Sale - artnet News
mircea_popescu: it's going to make a bundle for well positioned handlers tho. all this free floating money...
mircea_popescu: Do u have any personal imformation of BVPS owner?They are fraud.They started buy back at a very low price 2 monthes ago,and it's non negotiation.I can get less than 3 btc.I accept that.And they say they will pay before june 30th. But I havent got any payment till today.
mircea_popescu: so talking of ways one doesn't exactly expect to die : i have a gas boiler here. gas isn't really that commonly used in ba, and i guess they don't really get it. i notice that sometimes when i turn hot water on it sputters. super is like "well ya gotta let steam get out now an' again".
mircea_popescu: direct circuit boiler. let's hope it doesn't acumulate too much steam o.O
benkay: pray for a bleeder valve?
mircea_popescu: (it was suspended, sorta pointing towards sink, originally. send the bish to wash dish, get scalded bish randomly)
benkay: on an entirely different topic, mircea_popescu would you explain the tangibles line in the S.MG report?
mircea_popescu: davout argued it to death when it was first introduced (about 1 year ago, s.mg was iirc the first to an0 report, and i wanted an example)
benkay: yeah, the argument was about buying vs leasing.
benkay: it did seem a pretty tortured way to shoehorn an asset bearing company into an0 reporting.
benkay: not that i know *anything(
benkay: what was the rationale, mircea_popescu - that since it was a purchase with a 1-year buyback agreement you could book it as opex instead of capex?
benkay: and do forgive any misunderstandings of terminology.
mircea_popescu: benkay that since eulora could sell it off if it decided not to want it it's worth something.
mircea_popescu: so everything here takes the same brass skeleton keys pretty much. i have a 2`800 grams pile of different keys ;/
benkay: wait i thought an0 was for companies with no assets period?
benkay: nonzero asset corporation jesus fuck i'm retarded
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jurov: and davout.. oh i was asking you earlier about paymium:
jurov: i'm trying to figure out something around here, would need to set up slovak translation and support, is that intersting for you?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.03948 = 0.7896 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00081544 = 20.6306 BTC [-] {4}
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jurov: davout: to get merchants around here into paymium
jurov: nothing to see here, move along
davout: jurov: so you want to promote paymium in slovakia?
jurov: yes. if stars align right
jurov: i mean, if someone non-derpy will be around here to help me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00081475 = 10.4288 BTC [-]
assbot: BBC News - Why has Google cast me into oblivion?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: so is this a thing, you reply negatively to a tweet, then poster deleted op and retweets anew, disconnecting your comment from their feed << that sounds like exactly the sort of thing you'd see on twitter.
mircea_popescu: benkay that shit should be lulzy, i got tons of upset romanian scammzors/spammers/whatnot documented on trilema
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 559333.38 in 518 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 9.35
assbot: Enter Twitter’s New Venture Capital Arm? - Digits - WSJ
benkay: pull more money out of the markets and dump it into your friends' idiotic startup scams.
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.32 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 11007.33 GH/s
mircea_popescu: benkay i don't get it, twitter is not making money. what vc arm ?!
benkay: it's not vc it's a fucking roulette wheel
mircea_popescu: "Writer, Actress, Humanitarian, Philanderer, Bravado, and Playboy" mind.
benkay: No one calls a male past the age of puberty “a good boy.” // lies - i called a guy a "nice kid" just two days ago.
benkay: and i'm clearly alluding to his business and life inexperience.
benkay: waittaminute what's wrong with sluts?
benkay: does this person think that sluts are bad?
mircea_popescu: Some of us are trying to use ‘grow some ovaries’ as a female-friendly equivalent to ‘grow some balls,’
benkay: ovaries are not where the thinking happens
mircea_popescu: "For the record, I don’t think that a female who has frivolous and frequent sex with different men has any cause for shame, at least not if she’s doing it because she enjoys it and because it’s making her a happier and better citizen of the world, and if she is doing it for other less helpful reasons, then those reasons are what she should be dealing with, not the “symptoms.” Sadly, few people actually view f
mircea_popescu: emale sexuality in this way; even women and men who advocate liberated female sexuality, are sometimes guilty of using it against other women because the insult is so readily available and so ridiculously ingrained in us."
mircea_popescu: way to go on hitching the derpy equalitarian aggenda on sluttery.
mircea_popescu: we support women being sluts FOR BEING SLUTS, not for being something else that isn't being sluts. good god.
mircea_popescu: liberated female sexuality specifically does not mean female sexuality coralled by feminist special interest. a slave's a paragon of liberated female sexuality, not some derpy "playboy" with bills due.
mircea_popescu: mthreat we need o get the ba registrar of deeds moving already
benkay: had to explain to someone that their 'coupled' gps-imu thinger on a phone was not coupled in the strict sense of the thing.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: ok.. do you know the guy who wrote proofofexistence.com is from bsas?
benkay: did so by example: "now on this other actually tightly-coupled gps imu an acquaintance built, he actually used the IMU to maintain a lock on the GPS sats while under...10G acceleration".
benkay: eyes bugged, minds boggled.
mthreat: last F1 accident I remember, tehy said the sensor said 26G
mthreat: and the driver was ok, maybe some bruising
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assbot: F1 2008 Spain - Big crash for Heikki Kovalainen - On board - YouTube
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mthreat: asciilifeform: sounds right - racing seatbelts are designed to "rip" a bit on impact to absorb some of the force
mircea_popescu: is that sensor right under the hood above the radiator ?
mthreat: i don't know... probably close to the driver
mthreat: since that is what they want to measure
mthreat: mark webber had a thing about how he swallowed a pill that monitored his body temps, etc, during the race
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benkay: an acquaintance crashed a Ford "Mustang" into a tree one time. the crumple zones are so well-distributed around the car that the cupholder crushed his unopened cola can, dousing everyone in the car in a fine mist of sugar water.
mthreat: it's amazing the fuel cells don't rupture in F1 cars
assbot: On Board LV2.3 with Roll Stabilization - YouTube
benkay: <mircea_popescu> he didles rockets in hs spare time iirc. // once upon a time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but your cannon car would be a major danger for the one bhind it
benkay: they're vastly larger than the canards.
benkay: vortex shedding was imparting a torque on the airframe, inverting control and confusing controller.
mircea_popescu: "Following the overtaking of Lee’s email, the attackers processed a password challenge, which then provided them with a list of all of the passwords that had been previously listed within the browser. They then retrieved Bitcoins Reserve’s domain register, and then proceeded to add another DNS record that gave them access through Google to the company’s admin page for their apps account. "
benkay: so obviously the correct solution was to machine and harden our own .25M bearing races to decouple torque on stability fins from airframe.
rithm: mircea_popescu took a vacation?
ThickAsThieves: Sheryl Sandberg apologizes for Facebook's News Feed experiment: 'we never meant to upset you'
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the record : Bitcoins Reserve / sam lee need to a) read the fucking history. this retarded shit happened once to bitpay.
mircea_popescu: bitpay fucktards didn't put the trilema article on he topic all over their site,
mircea_popescu: and he ain't putting the by now years old trilema article al over his shitty "service"
ThickAsThieves: The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, a White House watchdog group that condemned the Obama administration's phone surveillance program earlier this year, has released another report ... According to the board, though, it's completely legal.
mircea_popescu: then they wonder why they're despised in bitcoin. well... this'd be why. stupidity does it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00081728 = 5.9661 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "we're not sorry we stole but terribly terribly sorry we got caught"
BingoBoingo: Huh, even with Death owning the board, life is still a value purchase
ThickAsThieves: Bitcoin payments on Expedia exceeding their expectations, “I think we’ve already seen what we’ve needed to see..."
assbot: The Events of Failday pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: O hai let me verify your identity! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: this entire "stolen emails" thing is a decade old by now.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00081323 = 6.6685 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Many merchants are shitty on Alibaba, but... A lot of people like consuming and reselling shit. << wasn't this essentially the pitch of ebay too ?
BingoBoingo: Well It's a place scared white Americans can get stuff from china and pretend to be "in industry"
BingoBoingo: It's like LVHM, it sell the pretense of being or being in a thing
assbot: Tim Draper Bitcoin Press Conference on Livestream
jurov: !up ninjashogun >:D
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mircea_popescu: artifexd: I don't think MagicalTux does anything "professionally" << ok that was pretty good
ninjashogun: hey, so I don't know if it's related to my offer the other day or what by an op in another channel got about 23 PM's from people in this channel.
ninjashogun: I'll just state my interactoin with you guys for the record:
mircea_popescu: i have no idea how long that makes it but i think i never missed A SINGLE LINE since logs were introduced.
ninjashogun: i'm a startup founder, I now have 2 startups I'm doing. (That's what the small funding round is about in the other channel).
ninjashogun: And then when I realized that you guys have a ton of money and (I thought) in earnest working on products, offered services.
ninjashogun: Anyway, I'm a real world person. Anyone here who is interested cna connect with me in real life.
ninjashogun: I disagree with all of you completely on running a business - especially Mircau. I think this channel is incredibly trollish.
ninjashogun: But I have absolutely no gov't affiliation of any kind, and 15 minutes on the phone with me can tell anyone everything about me.
mircea_popescu: mthreat status report in my inbox re yest : "Streets jammed with crazy hat wearers and trumpet people, Argentina's playing. Nueve de Julio es bloqueado completamente con locos."
aegis: Hi all... sorry for the nick changes... I was grouping nicks that some scammers were using earlier.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: it was crazy. I'm looking forward to more crazyness when they play belgium
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ninjashogun: This channel is the most trollish I've ever seen. Anyone is welcome to participate in my funding round on -otc though, as long as they want to connect with me in real life (I don't deal with pseudonymns)
mircea_popescu: aegis pretty sucky to have to group all the possible variations. got aeg1s ?
ninjashogun: the funding is $30K within the week, it can be to hard trusted escrower (who does cost control). It's being spent on two startups, one of which has a client but is not yet incorporated, the other has discussed very high valuaitons with (real-world) VC's.
ninjashogun: by cost-control I mean someone trusted (nobody from this channel obv) can actually wire the checks, to e.g. incorporation costs, legal costs around closing the round, etc. You would have to like and be involved with real-world, VC-backed startups to be able to participate meaningfully.
a3gis: someone registered a3gis
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, the reason is that a mod from another bitcoin channel got (in his words) 23 PM's from people in this channel. After someone posted my offer here.
aegis: Do any of you make a living just off bitcoin?
ninjashogun: asciilifeform, 23 PM's from people asking about me (or my deal.) So, I thought I would clear things up.
ninjashogun: I slightly trust Benkay, however he doesn't have a real-world VC network and hasn't taken venture capital money for his business.
ninjashogun: Benkay and I talked on skype extensively btw, you can ask him anything about me, he'll know the basics.
ninjashogun: I've also connected with other real-world VC's/founders from here. So it's a mixed bag.
ninjashogun: anyway that's all for me. just came here to address the PM's.
jurov: lol how many veecees you connected for 30k$ ???
ninjashogun: jurov, 0. I didn't even mention it to them.
ninjashogun: The bid that I'm soliciting is for an x repayment.
jurov: ninjashogun have you talked to usagi?
ninjashogun: For traditoinal companies, that have at least 2 years of net revenues, it's typical to raise "RBF" (revenue based financing) at a multiple of up to 5x, meaning that it will be returned until 5x has been returned. And that is with substantially reduced risk. (2 years of real cash flow.)
ninjashogun: so I can take bids up to any amount and will consider them, on the $30K.
jurov: yea, i definitely recommend
ninjashogun: Hi, Mats_cd03 and I have talked as well, but not on skype or anything. At the time i think I was just focusing on the newer business with you Mats, you would recall that I was talking in terms of a loan I think.
ninjashogun: However at the moment both businesses are doing "well" (at the preseed stage), the second (services only) business is gearing up really well and it's time to incorporate, etc.
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ninjashogun: jurov, I don't see a log for Usagi when I open the scrollback, so probably I haven't spoken with him.
gribble: usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 38 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, 29 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <usagi> No, but it will go over
jurov: he's gone over to bitcointalk
ninjashogun: jurov, I would ordinarily ask for an "intro" (who is he, etc) but I've been told that it's a bit forward to ask for this kind of info in btc world.
ninjashogun: jurov, I recommend a double opt-in system, where you ask Usagi if he would like an intro to a founder, and if he does want one (as well - I'll speak to him) you can introduce us.
ninjashogun: by "as well - I'll speak to him" I mean that I will appreciate the intro, I'm happy to speak with him.
jurov: hm, did anyone really wrote something that does justice to usagi's long and colorful career?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves badly advised. supposedly it's gonna get more "exposure" this way.
jurov: ninjashogun: he had only the purest and noblest intentions, you remind me of him
assbot: Usagi- is he or isn't he a scammer.
ninjashogun: jurov, this is why I'm ont raising a securities sale
ninjashogun: jurov, this is why I ignore people's suggestions to make a crypto currency and sell shares, etc.
ninjashogun: Jurov, I am only interested in personal financing, not in my assets per se. The use is on the two companies, one of which isn't even incorporated.
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: The thing is to us you sound astoundingly like Usagi
jurov: yes you do something dont-name-it-bond
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, well did you guys talk to him in real life? Or is this all from bizarro btc work?
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, well, I don't know. That thread I linked shows a founder who is selling assets free of any regulation or securities law. It gets ugly very fast.
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, it's why I don't mind doing traditional things. All of the great companies built in America since hte Great Depressoin, including the entire Internet and softtware, etc, tech sector, was done under securities regulation.
ninjashogun: you can't just come up with some bogus asset and start selling it.
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: And then there's the people who built shit *gasp* with their own sweat and money
ninjashogun: Anyway, I'm not going to argue with you guys. You're free to do whatever you want. If anyone wants in on the funding that is being raised I was asked to post a prospectus, it'll be in the other channel and you can review it.
ninjashogun: I also consider hte logging here and its interpretation to be absolutely psychopathic. Like you guys have never picked up the phone and networked with anyone.
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, yeah, you and Benkay have the same philosophy here.
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, but while I respect that philosophy, a little bit of capital is always needed.
ninjashogun: BingoBoingo, like, engineers love the immiggrant Tesla's story, but he only ecked out a meagre living from some patent royalties and that's it.
jurov: just do a garage sale
Bugpowder: If anyone wants to put $50-250k+ into a real near field microscopy startup at the angel stage, let me know.
BingoBoingo: ninjashogun: That's why most restaraunts hire dishwashers, so people can realize their dreams
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves "if you're watching it, you're in the demo"
Bugpowder: I know the tech is solid, he just quit job with market leader to found the company, and will partner back with them.
Bugpowder: I can put you in touch if possibly interested. He has plan and deck can show privately.
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Bugpowder: Poor dogecoin. DFJ is out on doge.
jurov: and paymium is shown with english interface, that's why i write about i18n
mthreat: ^watching - this is kind of painful to watch
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mike_c: nubbins`: highlight was: he's not telling on price.
nubbins`: i'd say he went between 800 and 1k
jurov: mircea_popescu misheard vegetarian?
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I'm leaning to suspect that as well. That the reason he isn't talking price yet is he doesn't want to appear to have overpayed
mike_c: 1k isn't overpaying for 30k bitcoins
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mircea_popescu: either that or he got it for free and they're working on an angle.
☟︎ gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 7554622.7432 USD and would take the last price up to 1005.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 755.4623 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 19.0805 seconds
nubbins`: well y'know. you're talking about an inconvenience in buying
nubbins`: he buys something with 1btc tomorrow, he's out money
nubbins`: he buys something worth 5000 btc tomorrow, he's out money
mike_c: i don't think he spent his last $ on the coins.
assbot: the wrong way to beg for money
nubbins`: i don't think he spent "his" money at all
Namworld: I am now attracting threats of harm to me and my family, for working for a Bitcoin casino and for having a few BTC. Apparently I'm responsible for Scrat's debts because Scrat not reachable/can't pay.
Namworld: The worst way to beg for money.
nubbins`: people are threatening you and your family?
Namworld: Nevermind that I can't do anything about it nor have access to Scrat's wallet.
Namworld: Nah, I'm not. Some schmuck who probably lost money on Coinroll and can't get to scrat found my Facebook.
kyuupichan: blockchain.info just gets worse and worse
Namworld: No, Coinroll did no such thing. But apparently his losses aren't legit and Scrat owes him.
Namworld: Normally I'd think the guy is a retard because I'm not the right nor wealthiest target in this... but that's what makes it worse. I imagine a retard could well decide to go gangster and show up.
davout: jurov mircea_popescu french/dutch/nigerian by adoption = a fun world cup
mircea_popescu: Namworld maybe it';s a hot chick and you end up with a new, fiery girlfriend ?
justusranvier: Second mistake: logging into IRC with your home cable modem's IP address exposed.
Namworld: I don't really hide my idendity. Never have, never wanted to. Anymore than mircea tries to hide anything about who he is. I don't have anything to hide. If I wanted something not known, it wouldn't be known.
Namworld: My IP doesn't matter when I've never hidden my name.
Namworld: There was a guy who at first claimed his son gambled his BTC on Coinroll, it's illegal, refund it. Was very insisting. Then another claimed Scrat stole the money and laundered it on his website (no idea how he knew the address his "stolen" BTC went to was a Coinroll address). Then some guy threatening legal action to me directly, having dug up my info. I told him I don't own or have
Namworld: access to Coinroll. Now I have harm threats and guy says he doesn't care I'm neither owner nor have access to Coinroll's wallet. I have to pay up from my personal money or I won't live...
Namworld: They all sounded alike... not sure if I should laugh, or fear a retard actually showing up... Even if he comes for me, the guy will still be a retard.
justusranvier: As the exchange rate of Bitcoin increases, so will the incentive of those who are inclined to use extortion, kidnapping, ransom, lawsuits, etc in order to obtain it.
davout: Namworld: retards don't actually do the things they threaten about
davout: justusranvier: lawsuits <<< okay
Namworld: Some retards do, thinking it's actually a good idea. Fortunately that's not too common...
davout: Namworld: meh, if the guy is that retarded how do you expect him to gather your address from your facebook
Namworld: @justusranvier Yes about exchange rate, apparently so. I've told the guy he didn't make sense. I'm not the one owning him and if he wanted to extort someone, there's better targets that are just as public.
Namworld: I have my address right there on whois. The guy has known it for months.
Namworld: He doesn't show up tho. All I get is IRC threats and addresses to make payments to...
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davout: Namworld: well, pay him or tell him to fuck off i guess
davout: or maybe just send him a drawing of a spider as payment :3
Namworld: I told him basically just that. That's his threats are pointless and not at the right target.
davout: no no, that's trying to use some sort of logic, just "fuck off" i meant
benkay: urgh bitbet and mpif are now so tangled
benkay: only thing missing is bitbets about mpif nav
Namworld: It's not gonna magically make his money appear. If he's serious he can just come to beat me and rob me, but it wouldn't be really any different than any other house robbery.
benkay: kyuupichan: what's going on with blockchain today?
davout: benkay: just not working
jurov: benkay gotta put some specially crafted bet related to mpif to close the loop
Namworld: I'm surprised jurov/wao haven't received threats already. I'm sure they'll start coming in from random people soon enough.
jurov: i don't disagree, you just happen to be most visible and in a country with most prone law system
Namworld: yes, legal threats are obviously easy. Doubt it would fly in court when I have no control on Coinroll. Would probably be instantly dismissed, I hope.
jurov: btw, how exactly is your situation different from dooglus' ?
jurov: "no control" i see, but investment and/or cooperation still falls under that law?
Namworld: It's not different. I can't operate Coinroll in Canada, hence why I refused to take it over. Scrat offered it for free to me and someone else. Me being in Canada and other in US, we refused.
Namworld: Well it might be potentially illegal in Canada to operate. But it's not illegal in all jurisdiction and as far as I know, foreign investment is not forbidden.
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Namworld: Aka, I can't own/operate most BTC things in Canada without license. But there's never been anything preventing investment in legal foreign companies...
jurov: are you required to disclose such investment?
Namworld: Maybe one could prosecute me because it's not registered. Maybe some zealous prosecutor could try to argue I'm an owner. But it wouldn't make much sense. It wouldn't close the business nor prevent operations.
Namworld: I might have to disclose it. Something I'll have to investigate how to do.
Namworld: One thing I know I'd have to disclose is any income/profit, obviously. The taxman will want a cut.
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fluffypony: do no coinbase users know about NLockTime?
davout: "do no coinbase users know" <<< that sentence could have stopped right here
Namworld: Most news article about Bitcoin and especially "what is the future/good for BTC" is stupid, fluffypony
Namworld: mircea_popescu, if it's not too indiscrete to ask, with the fortune you've accumulated in BTC so far, haven't you received threats/extortion demands so far?
mircea_popescu: <Namworld> access to Coinroll. Now I have harm threats and guy says he doesn't care I'm neither owner nor have access to Coinroll's wallet. I have to pay up from my personal money or I won't live... << so tell him the same lol
mircea_popescu: but anyway, you're running into what i'll call from now on the andreas proble,
mircea_popescu: it goes like this : you wanna play with the adults, you gotta wear adult breeches.
mircea_popescu: can't afford security detail ? stfu, do something else with your time. bitcoin is not for you.
mircea_popescu: don't have a team of lawyers on each fucking continent ? stfu, bitcoin is not for you. etc.
mircea_popescu: <benkay> only thing missing is bitbets about mpif nav << building the finances of a nation here naimean ?
mircea_popescu: Namworld of course i have. i also enjoy killing people.
mircea_popescu: exactly how beaten up should a would-be robber/etc be before he's been beaten up too much is a matter the courts never quite carved out.
mircea_popescu: you can probably not take a whole week doing it, but then again most schmucks wouldn't last a week anyway.
benkay: a week isn't a beating, that's torture.
benkay: and if you can't make a torturing go on for a week...
benkay: well gosh am i really talking to the real mp?
mircea_popescu: i guess the date the guy got caught must have been misreported then.
benkay: i'm sure a beating could go on for a full week, but what do you have after a day? pulp?
benkay: mircea_popescu: you'd know, not i
mircea_popescu: hey, it's namworld's friend we're talking about. che c'entro io
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 511511.43 Est. Next Diff: 582285.14 in 431 blocks (#38304) Est. % Change: 13.84
atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.38 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 10769.11 GH/s
mike_c: there have been some good fights for the bombs, but death's have been more effective.
mike_c: whoever got that pre-game bet in on death is killing it
BingoBoingo doesn't know who could have seeded the death pot...
mike_c: hehe. well good bet whoever it was :)
BingoBoingo: There's still time for life to try something bombwise in a sustained manner.
BingoBoingo: I suspect the earliest bombs really set the stage though
mike_c: life is very scattered. needs some good bombs to connect those islands
benkay: <mike_c> whoever got that pre-game bet in on death is killing it // ohyou.png
BingoBoingo: 2 Death No 4, 37 Small, prolly really set the stage...
Diablo-D3: [06:15:33] <Namworld> My IP doesn't matter when I've never hidden my name.
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atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 199 Ask: 272 Last Price: 199 24h-Vol: 796k High: 340 Low: 199 VWAP: 285
mircea_popescu: pankkake i took that test in spite of it starting with a retarded question. "Your top match for Which Atlas Shrugged character are you? is: John Galt"
atcbot: 18k@310 11k@275 19k@272 | 899k@199 500k@151 175k@142
pankkake: my second choice was dagny too
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 70 @ 0.0175 = 1.225 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: mircea_popescu: that's not thoth?
benkay: man do you just write a post and then purge it from your brain?
assbot: Colonia, Uruguay pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
BingoBoingo: benkay: Maybe if you wrote a post you could purge ninjashogun from your brain?
benkay: i don't write posts no mo.
benkay: gotta take that thing down.
benkay: i'd rather write emails instructing clients on the correct course of action and get paid for such than...blog.
benkay: don't really see why i should flatten out the information asymmetry either.
BingoBoingo: Oh, it is the parts of the information you flatten that matter