benkay: there are no contracts, so nobody can be certain of anything.
jurov: Mats_cd03 don't forget, you promised me some rimming first
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Then someone sends tastegrams which seem to be almonds, but are actually cyanide
mircea_popescu: i guess it'd have to be implemented electronically rather than chemically.
mircea_popescu: incidentally... 3d molecularbiologizing... get cartridges of all the elements, print any substance.
jurov: there are iirc 5 basic smells that can be mixed like colors
Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: too late... Instagram _is_ tastegram
BingoBoingo: I didn't think there was much future for 3D printing beyond industries frequently needing bespoke and one-off construction
jurov: no need to 3d print molecules
jurov: yes, cuz there are much more combinations of 5 basic smells than 3 primary colors
mircea_popescu: what the heck do you mix to go from one to the other ?
jurov: dunno. my mother explained to me mixing smells is basic physiology exercise for med students
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.54729999 = 1.0946 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: fun fact : mercaptane actually is a natural byproduct of asparagus digestion in mammals. for a long time people imagined the ability to excrete it in urine is genetically dependent, as apparently not all people did it.
mircea_popescu: then it turned out that in fact yes all people do it, but the ability to SMELL it is the genetic trait
jurov: and yo get back to topic.. "you wouldn't download a penis" - guess what gets printed first once 3d printer appears somewhere?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16746 @ 0.0008634 = 14.4585 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: wao-ender can confirm
rbonestell: is there any specific person in charge of assbot?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00086235 = 20.4377 BTC [-]
jurov: no, assbot is promiscuous
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5750 @ 0.00086235 = 4.9585 BTC [-]
rbonestell: I thought I found the source under an mpex repo on github somewhere
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1007 @ 0.00086235 = 0.8684 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0731 = 0.2193 BTC [-]
rbonestell: I thought I stumbled upon some irc bot for mpex and havelock when I was making that android app for the havelock API... but I have a terrible memory.
rbonestell: I didn't read the preceding context, but daaamn- some serious hostility there.
jurov: what kind of master thesis paper doesn't notice the university where it is done?
jurov: just the first thing i noticed
mircea_popescu: maybe their entire country only has one university so it's kind-of redundant ?
Duffer1: i didn't know phoenix.edu offered masters
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.19376446 = 0.7751 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.54871538 = 7.1333 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.5499 = 1.6497 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: couldn't seem to get nickserv to cooperate
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3627 @ 0.00085992 = 3.1189 BTC [-]
nubbins`: yes but he said it in spanish and the audience spoke portuguese
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24073 @ 0.00086082 = 20.7225 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: by the way, anyone else noticed how quickly the altcoin subforum standardized ?
mircea_popescu: they have an announcement format, this is what one should do a master thesis on
mircea_popescu: copy the entire altcoin subforum, define 50-100 measures, see how standardised the offerings are, do a over time survey
mircea_popescu: pure fundamental open-market research. more valuable than 99% of all economics papers to be published in 2014
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23262 @ 0.00085697 = 19.9348 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.55808965 = 16.7427 BTC [+] {6}
mircea_popescu: anyway. the rms life and culture seems now a failed experiment. gpl was perhaps a good idea, but gpl 3 is an unmitigatedly bad idea, and so it goes. they wanted to kill bsd and in the end bsd killed them.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.56995 = 2.2798 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 5000 @ 0.000107 = 0.535 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.579 = 1.737 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 757 @ 0.00015499 = 0.1173 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.5876543 = 5.8765 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1476 @ 0.00015696 = 0.2317 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3500 @ 0.00015697 = 0.5494 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, when you say standardized, you mean the format of the announcement posts?
mircea_popescu: the reality underneath. who said they must have "faucets" ?
nubbins`: you used to find the same thing in group buy threads too
mircea_popescu: if you look at it unbiased it's shockingly organised, and arbitrarily so
nubbins`: really it just boils down to people doing copypasta because they can't be fucked to figure out how to structure a post
nubbins`: in their defense, why reinvent the wheel?
nubbins`: anyway, you'd suppose the rest has some sort of purpose
nubbins`: e.g. if there's no faucet, nobody but a couple miners are gonna bother to play with it
mircea_popescu: no argument it has purpose, but the structure and therefore the convention and meaning imo far exceeds the purpose
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00549999 = 0.143 BTC [+] {4}
nubbins`: i stepped into the altcoin announcement sub the other day. had to go back like six fuckin pages to see a thread that wasn't last updated "Today"!
nubbins`: alts are like cabbage patch kids
mircea_popescu: which is why i don't argue, it'd be like insisting "barracks" should be spelled "kaserne"
nubbins`: oo, canadian snowboarder just smacked his tailbone
nubbins`: "i can't even explain how difficult these tricks are" says the cbc announcer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00300001 = 0.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] [PAID] 0.36336265 BTC to 9`595 shares, 3787 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.07249999 = 0.29 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 13923 @ 0.00015697 = 2.1855 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34850 @ 0.0008596 = 29.9571 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00086324 = 4.791 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5966 @ 0.00015744 = 0.9393 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00086357 = 24.5254 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: i think that's a Crumbs sock
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65858 @ 0.00085637 = 56.3988 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1452 @ 0.00016996 = 0.2468 BTC [+] {7}
diametric: i can't wait until mtgox completely dies
KRS-One: where would we trade our magic: the gathering warez then
diametric: how great would that be if thats what it reverted back to
diametric: and they start offering refunds of btc in "equal valued" magic cards
mircea_popescu: <Mats_cd03> what is dead will never die <<< this, basically.
mircea_popescu: bfl is in the same situation, the entire bitcoin foundation structure is basically... that.
diametric: so many people think the bitcoin foundation is in charge of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: the people responsible very much going around talking about things as if.
jayk: my investor had the right idea
jayk: he wantd to fly out to bfly had have a tour
jayk: however, they never returned a phone call or email
jayk: in the end no money was ever delivered to them for product
jayk: i doubt a kansas city mega cloudhashing center exists for them
jayk: prolly see an exec run
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26700 @ 0.00085368 = 22.7933 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5799 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.122 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22292 @ 0.00085506 = 19.061 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 120 @ 0.00086899 = 0.1043 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0735 = 0.147 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.5898 = 5.898 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1225 BTC [+]
KRS-One: ah damn, i'll geek her up...fawk.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7500 @ 0.0001833 = 1.3748 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 700 @ 0.00018888 = 0.1322 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1225 = 0.245 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0735 = 0.147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15701 @ 0.00086164 = 13.5286 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1423 @ 0.00018898 = 0.2689 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.122 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59 = 1.18 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 77 @ 0.00550116 = 0.4236 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00019922 = 1.9922 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 130 @ 0.00571048 = 0.7424 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 102 @ 0.00583246 = 0.5949 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.00584539 = 0.5202 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59391484 = 1.1878 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 139 @ 0.0055 = 0.7645 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59391484 = 1.1878 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00085921 = 21.8239 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59385 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1858 @ 0.00085921 = 1.5964 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00085401 = 12.0415 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59397969 = 1.7819 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2920 @ 0.0002 = 0.584 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: DJ Khaled - Born N Raised - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.59 = 5.31 BTC [-]
KRS-One: Gotta represent fo my city
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20279 @ 0.00085422 = 17.3227 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.5939797 = 4.1579 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59 = 1.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 3000 @ 0.0055 = 16.5 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1650 @ 0.0002 = 0.33 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 750 @ 0.00085452 = 0.6409 BTC [+]
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28797 @ 0.00085491 = 24.6188 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2002 @ 0.00020084 = 0.4021 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3703 @ 0.00085776 = 3.1763 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 154 @ 0.00594281 = 0.9152 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.119 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 532 @ 0.00021 = 0.1117 BTC [+]
KRS-One: wtf hips , probable dumpy ass.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.04999999 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: Sublime - KRS One - YouTube
KRS-One: finishing prodigy-smack my bitch up atm 2 min left
KRS-One: prolly have to smoke a cig after this
KRS-One: hey kakobrekla u a sysadmin right
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00021003 = 0.8401 BTC [-] {4}
KRS-One: so like my nephew has huge email list he wants to use as email addresses for submitting forms to some websites-he says i would need thousands of ip addresses and spoofed browser info so the servers dont get filtered/banned, wants it to look legit. he says we just gotta repopulate the email address and automate the click process..
KRS-One: i say theres much more to it than that, was going to suggest a threaded C program..but im not sure we would need so many ip addresses instead of a well known email host
KRS-One: maybe throttle the submissions a bit..idk.. any input
kakobrekla: yeah, go find something more legitimate to do
KRS-One: it actually is legit, he does internet marketing
KRS-One: problem is it wouldnt look legit to admins
KRS-One: I have a pretty open mind when it comes to music, but wtf is this some borat shit?
KRS-One: kind of reminds me of the hardcore Cuban music I get exposed to here..they're very instrumental, trumpets, drums, etc.
KRS-One: what would this be considered? Popular music? Even for younger folks?
kakobrekla: no, younger folks listen to shit you paste
KRS-One: I listened to it, thanks. Its very different for me.
KRS-One: Feel free to send another one some time thats a bit different
KRS-One: Vexual sure has a wide range of tastes. I like checking out his links.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00085452 = 10.9379 BTC [-]
KRS-One: sure is...different..these guys are real artists.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5826 BTC [-]
theo: The king maynard knows how to write music and damn he knows how to sing
KRS-One: Haven't listened to them in a while.
theo: KRS-one: they really are, i am amazed they haven't gained the famity of Tool as of yet. But time will tell. Got to see them live last year best experience ever
KRS-One: Very percussion like Tool. Both bands are tops with me.
kakobrekla: anywho, the point is, the utility of music yt links is so low on -assets i discourage them, strongly.
theo: Well maynard is in both and writes for both of them lol.
theo: Have you heard his 3rd side project?
KRS-One: sorry bout that kakobrekla
KRS-One: kakobrekla: maybe not so bad when theres nothing going on?
theo: wow. I will link you them. They take my breath away
theo: Is that ok kakobrekla? If i link a YT video?
theo: ahhhhhh not the @ss
theo: yeah maynard is the writer for tool APC and puscifer. Plus he also did some green jelly back in the 70's
theo: yeh and the deep voice.
kakobrekla: just think about people reading the logs when you type spam in this window thank you
theo: no problems :). Mind you i read the logs sometimes and there is a lot of spam always lol.
KRS-One: This is good stuff..adding to my collection.
theo: KRS-one: your welcome brother i can link you on to many other similar bands that are small time or for some reason no one knows :)
theo: let me know what you think of the humbling
KRS-One: funny, i used to get exposed to different music when i'd download mp3's from livewire and what not when i would check out other music peopl ehad
KRS-One: thats what im listening to now
KRS-One: theo: me and Vexual trade links from time to time and b.s.
KRS-One: the humbling seems pretty powerful
theo: yeh same here the only way i now get exposed to new music is through my DJ friends and a recording label i hang at. Otherwise it would take so long to go through everything.
theo: Yeah the build up and just the lyrics "the hands of the many must join as one. and Together we will cross the river"
KRS-One: i go on undernet #mp3passion to download mp3's sometimes i watch the traffic go by and check out different stuff..kinda works for me.
KRS-One: Momma sed much better, maybe its my current mood
theo: if you ever want up and coming Australian bands i have to many of them. lol. Yeah momma sed to me is how i think all men should act. just a good set of lyrics
theo: il send 1 other link and see what you think very different music again
theo: this is my favorite band at the moment (though i am bias as its one of my best friends band)
theo: k no more spam thanks for tollerating it kakobrekla
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 17 @ 0.07202942 = 1.2245 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00085566 = 12.022 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00085452 = 20.6367 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2342 @ 0.00021002 = 0.4919 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7000 @ 0.00021 = 1.47 BTC [-]
Namworld: Can someone explain me why CasinoBitcoin is trading at 27 years of profits?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00085617 = 27.954 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8243 @ 0.00085624 = 7.058 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00085452 = 20.6794 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1627 @ 0.00085344 = 1.3885 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0734 = 0.2202 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0735 = 0.147 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4993 @ 0.00085642 = 4.2761 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9962 @ 0.00085998 = 8.5671 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6705 @ 0.0008568 = 5.7448 BTC [-]
theo: So MPEX can it actually be trusted?
Namworld: It's the one with the longest history.
theo: Well the owner of the exchange is very adament that he will never be found and you can do what you like to try and track it
theo: I do realise it has a long history. But so have some of the biggest ponzi schemes
Namworld: That he will never be found? Where the heck have you read that?
Namworld: He's quite public and vocal about what he does.
kakobrekla: theo me and a couple of other on this chan found him last year!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.55572305 BTC [-]
theo: ok. I just read on a few reddit topics and other things
Namworld: I would certainly like a link for a laugh.
kakobrekla: yes, reddit, the finance cream of the crop
Namworld: Whatever those reddits thread said, I'm sure they were innacurate.
theo: I agree hence why i was asking here to see others opinions.
Namworld: The owner can be pretty provocative/be vocal with unpopular opinions.
Namworld: It gets a lot of people quite pissed about him.
theo: But at the end of the day he is pretty straight up about business?
Namworld: But as far as business goes, it's been solid.
Namworld: Longest lasting exchange. No screw ups. Pretty secure wallet too.
theo: Alright thank's i have been looking at it as an option to trade on, just hesitent as 25 BTC is not so smaller investment nowdays
Namworld: It was more fun when SatoshiDice traded on there. I have an account, that I don't use that much anymore, sadly.
Namworld: SatoshiDice is now quite dead however. And not listed anywhere anyway.
theo: coinbr is that the company that lets you trade on them through them as a proxie? and only charges a fee
Namworld: Yes, you should sign up on coinbr if you don't want to put 25 BTC
Namworld: Both coinbr and mpex are in a good legal jurisdiction for that short of things.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32467 @ 0.00086138 = 27.9664 BTC [+] {2}
moiety: why didn't he say himself when they were discussing it being 30 then
Namworld: 25 for those with a MPEx referral
kakobrekla: yes its 30, but if you posses the skill of reading level 7 or higher, its 25
moiety: oh lol i thought you were just meaning i'd read it wrong kakobrekla! XD lol
kakobrekla: Namworld but referral numbers are lying around
kakobrekla: so reading comprehension is what its needed
kakobrekla: or maybe people who listed things on mpex
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00020501 = 0.82 BTC [-] {5}
FabianB: and lots of ppl hanging around here
kakobrekla: what im saying you dont even have to leave mpex page to get one
Namworld: I have one. First result on google for MPEx referral.
Namworld: You have to search for it a bit however.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1195 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29782 @ 0.00086248 = 25.6864 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 71 @ 0.00307539 = 0.2184 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2238 @ 0.00020501 = 0.4588 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3045 @ 0.000205 = 0.6242 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00086243 = 31.0475 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.073987 = 0.148 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.074 = 0.148 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.0054002 = 0.3726 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 46 @ 0.59702253 = 27.463 BTC [+] {15}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3717 @ 0.00019011 = 0.7066 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00086294 = 13.807 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0743995 = 0.4464 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0744 = 0.2232 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 900 @ 0.00082525 = 0.7427 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.19376446 = 5.8129 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00086349 = 3.713 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00565838 = 0.5658 BTC [+] {6}
jurov: and it's simple. if you register without referral, 0.2% goes to me
jurov: and having the invitation code is not compulsory, that was only for a month or so
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
theo: yeh i have already seen that site with the referall and manuals. Tis what got me more interested in MPEX Though i am not sure that they really offer anything i would invest into other then the derivatives scheme they offer as a baseline
jurov: well, for example both S.NSA and S.MG are making solid progress and are expected to ship imminently
jurov: but i don't know, what you want exactly?
theo: The only thing is that the profits from the website itself would have to be more then the 25 BTC i Invest and the additional funds i would invest after the origional down payment
jurov: during what timespan?
theo: Well currently i am quiet happy with havelock the only thing is that they don't have a large selection to choose from, well at least a large selection i believe could do well as buisness
theo: in the end i am a mid-long term investment. Dont usually have time for short term trading as i have a family
jurov: if you are sure havelock will be there mid-long term...then stay there
theo: What are your thought's? do you think they will?
jurov: imo they are going to end up like glbse/bf/btct, if a bit slower
theo: they have SFI which to me was a big thumbs up in my mind a IPO that raised 2 million
jurov: it's clear at least once cavirtex did what they did
theo: and that has 3 companies being mentioned in mass media
kakobrekla: because investing is all about mass media!
jurov: and name me some stocks there that have detailed monthly reports and clear signed agreements like mpex carries
theo: herpa derp, no it has little to do with mass media... But what i was implying is that if a incubator company that has 3 of there companies being mentioned in media a) it will do well. and b) in my mind it makes me think that there may be some more creedence to the website
theo: Honestly i can't hence why i am asking for advice and your opinions about such things
jurov: did you invest into doge, then? it has mass media powers
theo: CBTC seem pretty up front providing reports bi-monthly
theo: and never would thats a different type of investing
theo: there are only 3 companies i invest in there
theo: and the only 3 i have are the ones that seem to be transperent and have good communication.
kakobrekla: that might explain "CasinoBitcoin is trading at 27 years of profits"
theo: bi-monthly they update the google doc
ozbot: CasinoBitco.in - Public
theo: So right now it seems more like your making fun of my questions and what i think then providing any reasoning other then MPEX has been there ages and you should use my company to trade on it for my profit. Seriously great IRC.
jurov: theo can you pinpoint where i'm mocking you?
theo: <jurov> did you invest into doge, then? it has mass media powers\
theo: that to me is a jab at me, and many would take it as such
jurov: it was my honest opinion, you asked for
theo: I didn't ask about mass media or about dodge.
theo: I asked about your opinion on mpex and havelock.
jurov: and you reasoned by mass media coverage
jurov: i took that almost as joke
jurov: and replied accordingly
theo: I didn't use that as any reasoning idiot read back
theo: I used the IPO of SFI as reasoning and side noted that there companies had recieved mass media.
theo: That is not reasoning. it was a side note
jurov: so it's your side noted against my "jabs" then
theo: Yawn. I came on here looking for good info and maybe a nice convo, all your providing is arguments and yes you did make a "jab" Now we are arguing semantics for no reason. I asked your's / anyone elses advice on havelock and MPEX and all i got was a hey you should use my company as thats a hefty fee
theo: now your being a real dick so putting a great vibe out for your company thanks for making sure i tell everyone never to use yours :)
jurov: no need to hyperventilate
theo: how does one hyperventilate on the internet?
kakobrekla: we are not here to convince you into anything
theo: I didn't say you were, i just thought people would actually be nice and maybe give advice instead of being dicks
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 718 @ 0.00086193 = 0.6189 BTC [-]
theo: Actually there is a lot, no good advice is free usually
jurov: what kind of advice did you want? i say, mass media is irrelevant when coming to btc investment, you call me idiot
jurov: just because i said it in funny way
theo: Really it is irreleveant? how about go look at the company who made BTCtrader performed on the stock market the day they announced there beta ended? or how about the casino company who announced they were making a exchange? both stocks went up by 5-10% in a single day thats called mass media arround BTC affecting the world
theo: And furthering that Mass media is what has driven bitcoin to the point it is. If reddit hadn't started accepting it when they did i betchya we would not be at this point yet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00086125 = 10.2489 BTC [-]
jurov: but you said you're in for medium to long term.. or was it a side nmote,, too?
theo: I was asking about havelock and MPEX. Why jurov though that havelock would go down like so many of the other security exchanges
herbijudlestoids: theo: i think the general perception around here is they are in it for the hype, ergo its unsustainable
theo: Ok so not actually to do with legal reasons etc?
jurov: because havelock does not uphold any standards and it's up to issuers. i can't say that clearer
herbijudlestoids: they list "businesses", MPex prides itself on only listing what it deems to actually have a business model
theo: jurov i think thats a bit backwards as they do have standards. Otherwise they would have a fuck load more IPO as they reject a lot as well.
theo: They just might not have good standards
taub: ahaha i didn't even look into dogecoin closely until now
taub: but it's such a scam wow
taub: meme driven pump and dump
taub: only use is mine and sell ?
herbijudlestoids: theo: there have been some good examples shown iirc, you can trawl the logs if you wish
theo: whats your opinion herbi? are you also of the opinion that havelock will crumble and fall? The only reason i have some faith in havelock is there investment of SFI which was able to raise 2 million
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.00300242 = 0.3333 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0745 = 0.298 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.075 = 0.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00086125 = 20.5839 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14982 @ 0.00086125 = 12.9032 BTC [-]
herbijudlestoids: theo: no specific opinion, tho if i wanted to build an exchange it would look more like mpex and less like havelock
theo: Alright thank's :). If i wanted to build a exchange i think i would touch up on it from MPEX or at least the front end lol. And also his personal skills
herbijudlestoids: MPEX is conceptually equivalent to a large scale exchange on the order of NYSE or CME
herbijudlestoids: the frontend is irrelevent to the end user and in those cases is absolutely not exposed
herbijudlestoids: users of the system interact with the exchange through brokerage
herbijudlestoids: so? the frontend has really nothing to do with it, nor his personal skills
theo: Well i think you do miss some idea. The majority of stocks sold on the exchanges like Dow Jones or Nasdaq are used through brokerages because the majority of people do not have the technical know how on how to use a system or have the time to learn how its used. So if I were making a exchange i would do an idea of both providing one like his, with the ability to be your own brokerage and hence if people wanted charge a additio
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1200 @ 0.00021997 = 0.264 BTC [+]
theo: though thats just me
herbijudlestoids: theo: i dont miss any idea. not everyone needs a seat on the exchange. you do not understand the concept of an exchange.
jurov: theo your text was too long, got cut on "wanted charge a additio"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 25 @ 0.0735 = 1.8375 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.07319999 = 0.366 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: herbijudlestoids: you understood what theo has in mind?
herbijudlestoids: jurov: i dont think he has fully thought it through, he just sees some smalltime webservice which lets poncy little stocks that go nowhere list
jurov: butbutbut.. it's covered by media!!! *sigh*
herbijudlestoids: theo: what i suggest is if you think the existing thing has deficiencies that you can overcome, make your own thing and people will flock to it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.60349997 = 10.863 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
theo: Well to be honest i don't think he has done amazingly well what with the securities options someone in a post said that he had to pay out pretty much his whole years profits as people bet on the rising price and he had to pay / she
theo: But right now i am not sure as i am still researching
ozbot: MPOE, April 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
herbijudlestoids: theo: now i get why mircea_popescu is so short...because people are so fucken dumb
herbijudlestoids: you just read some shit, you really have no clue and form your opinions based on dumb shit
ozbot: MPOE, March 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
theo: No herbi maybe i am trying to make a informed opinion on these exchanges based on limited information.
jurov: theo then ask for information, not for opinions. there *is* info.
theo: I don't have an opinion as of yet and am asking questions from those who seem to be knowledgeable
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.12 = 0.48 BTC [+]
theo: thank you for the links jurov
theo: that was what i was refering to and that provided a much more indepth view into what was mentioned on a forum
herbijudlestoids: theo: lol so basically you required to be spoonfed info which is available on mpex directly
jurov: on the other hand, i do link btcalpha from the manual
herbijudlestoids: jurov: err, goto mpex.co, click on S.MPOE, top of the page is "Monthly statements available here"
jurov: oh my i forgot.. call ne noob :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4500 @ 0.00021997 = 0.9899 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00086105 = 29.1035 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00086385 = 23.5831 BTC [+] {2}
herbijudlestoids: im on the coinminer.net pool...just detected a new block a few mins ago
mircea_popescu: theo are you like retarded ? about a dozen people in this room found me just fine wtf.
mircea_popescu: ow crap, now i'm talking to ignored people off the chatlog.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i had a small mining rig, 1.6GH/s but one day my USB hub died and difficulty was going up so i never bothered to restore the setup...tonight i thought i would plug it back in for ATC
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: well since there is no source for ATC out, its hard for me to use my little ASICs to do anything except with cgminer
mircea_popescu: yeah actually, the happenstance of btc and the particular usb implementation some miner manufacturers happened to use really exposed a lot of crap the usb manufacturers were hiding under the rug for years
ThickAsThieves: <herbijudlestoids> mircea_popescu: well since there is no source for ATC out -- source is in the thread
mircea_popescu: it's one of those age old stories in industry "ah, who's ever gonna know" then 2 years later... bam someone burntests your shit on a large scale
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: ah ok, how much work do i need to do to get these lil buggers to mine on it?
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids think of it this way : all the work you do is training.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1318 @ 0.00086067 = 1.1344 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: can we tell people, don't play on testnet, play on Altcoin!
ThickAsThieves: herb i dunno how diff to set up mining, the source isn't much different other than some logos and stuff changed
herbijudlestoids: ah ok, solo mining is not hard it seems, i just point cgminer to the altcoind
herbijudlestoids: i will have to recompile altcoind from source since i dont have 64bit installed on this laptop
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 895 @ 0.00300009 = 2.6851 BTC [-] {11}
mircea_popescu: but inasmuch as both you and your referrer get 5 btc, it could be argued the new account only costs 20 with a referrer. anyway.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids you don't have 64bit installed ?! what ?
mircea_popescu: o you mean the cpu is 64bit but you're using a 32bit os ?
mircea_popescu: you know doing that actually slows it down because adressing and stuff ?
mircea_popescu: it's not just the addressable memory pool size that counts.
ThickAsThieves: fyi i have moiety ignored and i dont know why, probly a nickchange
herbijudlestoids: well lucky my entire workflow is encompassed by terminal, firefox, ssh, rdesktop and i dont notice ;)
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i've been extremely irc promiscuous this year.
moiety: hi mircea_popescu lol catching up? and nope they should go find it and read it in the first place.
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids "i didn't buy my bebbeh i love it any clothes because whatever, she's cold but my entire workflow consists of get in kitchen make me sammich"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so i'm promiscuous and you're confused.
moiety: btw guys i'm chipug, just using usual nick now
moiety: is that why you ignored me ThickAsThieves?!
moiety: lol kidding ThickAsThieves XD
ThickAsThieves: my wife, for like the first time ever, asked if there were girls in IRC
mircea_popescu: i'm sort-of hoping one day some libertard finds this chan and is all "we must start a petition to have these people brought to justice! they said cunt!"
herbijudlestoids: ThickAsThieves: is the only peer in the DNS seed still down for ATC? when i tried earlier today it was giving me conn refused and i had to explicitly connect to an IP someone posted in the chan
mircea_popescu: Namworld: I have one. First result on google for MPEx referral. <<< ahaha epic.
chetty: libtards can't irc. - requires reading and stuff
ThickAsThieves: herb, ask pankakke or the thread such questions, i'm just a weirdo in a clown suit
mircea_popescu: so i'm promiscuous, you're confused and this guy cnat raed.
moiety: i love the language code of this channel
mircea_popescu: ;;google chickenhawk "i scared myself" "i'm hunting a chicken"
pankkake: herbijudlestoids: it's my server and it's up. maybe it has trouble connecting to you
pankkake: no one offered IPs for me to add :(
pankkake: maybe you can try 87.98.146.72 too
moiety: my pi dreams have been realised in email server form \o/
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids: o shit yea i totally got a giant pool of IPs lol <<<
pankkake: oh, the current binaries don't have dns seeds
mircea_popescu: now herbi, share some ips for the glory of the altcoin!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.07660404 = 0.383 BTC [-] {3}
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: like you always say, good service costs BTC :P
moiety: is it a bad idea to change email address of a gpg key for any reason?
mircea_popescu: yeah, i'll buy an ip for pankkake from you for 100 alt.
mircea_popescu: by now this shit's roughly as complex as counterparty trade on any prop desk in london
pankkake: you made me do accounting, as the transaction list of bitcoin-qt sucks
mircea_popescu: PierreCPA: Perhaps, though I think we'll call them "accounting system developers", accounting will be done entirely 100% by computers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00085925 = 21.3953 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Depending on fab capacity. Total target is 10k to 40k wafers, relying on competitors, Bitcoin price, and other factors. A wafer is rated at 40 TH/s."
ThickAsThieves: theyll basically sell as much as would be bought it sounds
mircea_popescu: so if indeed they deliver pretty much everyone mining currently is screwed.
mircea_popescu: so basically if bitcoiners had a 1 btc budged for killing people, it'd go ~1 btc to taking out friedcat and ~0 btc to taking out a bunch of tards in suits in the us self importantly yakking about regulation or whatever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: theo you obviously missed the part where mpex has about a million btc mkt cap listed, and the part where the largest ipos in the history of btc all happened on mpex
ThickAsThieves: of course most of those wafers will be mining Altcoin by then, so it works out
mircea_popescu: now go ask havelock exactly what a) the total bitcoin loss from all listed and closed companies is so far with them
mircea_popescu: and b) exactly what would be the average return of an investor who put in 1 btc over a basket of everything they had a year ago.
mircea_popescu: cause if you don't daytrade and have a family those are the questions that matter, not whether someone paid random unheard of "press" outfit fiddy bux to run their bs story about nothing.
mircea_popescu: as far as i know, out of all the folks pretending to be into bitcoin finance, the only person who was in the press is yours truly.
mircea_popescu: seeing how we don't count reports of having been arrested, doing dope or bs press releases.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: tbh if you have been dealing with incessant queries from people with similar questions to theo then i can understand why you react the way you do to many things :P
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids it's deeper than that, i even have people to insulate me from it
mircea_popescu: but i'm a very unfortunate mix of volcanic personality and hands-right-into-the-grease mental model
pankkake: herbijudlestoids: yes. didn't you get any other connections?
mircea_popescu: omg thank you power ranger pancake for having fixed the blockchain with your powers!
mircea_popescu: you were like right here when you broke it and everything.
pankkake: that's how a lot of altcoins work :/ "oh we got 51% attacked again? let me fix it"
mircea_popescu: ah well. so that went like this : hearn changed the db structure in the new release without reading the old db code because fuck, he worked at google!
mircea_popescu: upon push the blockchain split, all the traders on the old chain, all the fuckwits still at that point following their release cycle on a new chain
mircea_popescu: and derps in -dev were all like omg you power ranger devs! you were right here! and fixed it!
pankkake: oh, right, I remember that. didn't know it was hearn
mircea_popescu: i can see that, i thought this must have been taaki too, originally.
pankkake: the more you mine the more you get
moiety: can we please send him a cape?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1205 BTC [+]
herbijudlestoids: is altcoin the first altcoin that has absolutely no difference from the original bitcoin in terms of algorithm?
mircea_popescu: moiety yeah, it could be really small and have cunts embroidered on it
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids possibly. certainly the first to get over 100 difficulty.
pankkake: no, there was a recent wave of sha256 altcoins, after usb erupters were totally useless
pankkake: the one that made me lol, by the name, AsicCoin
moiety: embroidery? you spoiler. i would've gone iron-on transfers
mircea_popescu: moiety even better because then it could sorta fracture right down the middle
moiety: lolol @ 'the block-cape'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.074 = 0.148 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "The majority of stocks sold on the exchanges like Dow Jones" srsly ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0745 = 0.2235 BTC [+]
herbijudlestoids: pankkake: out of curiosity, how many GH are you contributing to the ATC pool right now?
ozbot: #bitcoin-otc order id 19517
mircea_popescu: theo: what i suggest is if you think the existing thing has deficiencies that you can overcome, make your own thing and people will flock to it << no see, that's outright evil. the guy perceives deficiencies due to the shit on his eyes, and fails to see the actual problems. if he manages to get in the media with his braindamaged implementation (which is possible seeing how cluelessly stupid media people are)
herbijudlestoids: lel it was a kidden, obviously he is not going to make teh thingz
mircea_popescu: then that'll just be a bunch of people getting hurt down the road. pretty much exactly how most everything outside of mpex has been working to date, from the exchanges, starting with mtgox, to anything you wish to pick
mircea_popescu: no, actually, you're playing with widows' and orphans' money.
mircea_popescu: he WILL make the thing. because he's that stupid, and he lives in a braindead society which encourages fuckwits to "express themselves"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but anyway, my car's been waiting for like half an hour by now, i'll get fined for parking with the driver in it at this rate.
herbijudlestoids: i wonder who is contributing the ~40-100GH/s reports on the mining pool website for ATC
moiety: cheerio mircea_popescu
herbijudlestoids: ok, i ordered a new USB hub so i can resurrect the lil mining rig and set it on ATC
herbijudlestoids: at least that way i can try and use any i mine to get my WoT score up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00086118 = 23.4241 BTC [+] {2}
herbijudlestoids: kakobrekla: i got a couple of USB hubs here, but they dont seem to like the ASICs, so itll have to be 336MH/s until it comes :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.0008568 = 4.8838 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.19376446 = 3.8753 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.0743409 = 0.8177 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Ice age @ Postojna - Iztok Medja | Iztok Medja
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00086127 = 4.737 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0055 = 1.1 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0055 = 0.1925 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10040 @ 0.00086332 = 8.6677 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.19376446 = 1.5501 BTC [+]
pankkake: Help/Debug window doesn't work?
ThickAsThieves: gonna try a diff pc first, this one has some networking issues
pankkake: try "addnode 87.98.146.72 add"
pankkake: otherwise you can also add nodes in ~/.altcoin/altcoin.conf
ThickAsThieves: <pankkake> otherwise you can also add nodes in ~/.altcoin/altcoin.conf that path exists?
pankkake: it's surprising you could not make outgoing connections
pankkake: and you already should have a .altcoin directory created
pankkake: well, I don't know where to put the altcoin.conf then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13750 @ 0.00086578 = 11.9045 BTC [+]
Duffer1: same dir as the exe i believe
pankkake: someone did it in the thread I think
pankkake: it's in some user profile folder
pankkake: 125.120.196.224 68.35.72.33 162.243.123.118 other IPs to try
pankkake: it's in the same place as the wallet.dat
gribble: Time since last block: 31 minutes and 9 seconds
ThickAsThieves: when i use console to add node, it replies with a blank comment
Duffer1: search %appdata% then double click on Roaming
pankkake: so you create altcoin.conf and add lines of "addnode=IP"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02829999 = 0.2264 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.075125 = 0.1503 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0755 = 0.604 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.076 = 0.38 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3854 @ 0.00086763 = 3.3438 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.12000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.12 = 0.48 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: the blockr page has a weird bug where sometimes links arent clickable, something about scrolling affects it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4383 @ 0.00019104 = 0.8373 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.609 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.609 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.0008659 = 17.1881 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.02637610 BTC to 1`070 shares, 95923 satoshi per share
kakobrekla: ThickAsThieves can you make a proper bugreport :)
kakobrekla: like in a way that i can be reproduced
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 12 @ 0.19376446 = 2.3252 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8326 @ 0.00086763 = 7.2239 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27510 @ 0.00087175 = 23.9818 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 8000 @ 0.00019101 = 1.5281 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4770 @ 0.00019087 = 0.9104 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60997998 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2385 @ 0.00087062 = 2.0764 BTC [-]
ozbot: Bitcoin Mutual Fund
ThickAsThieves: "In other word's this isn't Tat Investments, exotic complex virtual bonds, that make Chase and Goldman derivatives look like a joke."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 17391 @ 0.00019 = 3.3043 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0057 = 0.2052 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 23 @ 0.00500101 = 0.115 BTC [+]
pankkake: scammers now pretty much always start with "I've been a victim of scams myself"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21360 @ 0.0008639 = 18.4529 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8672 @ 0.0008568 = 7.4302 BTC [-]
punkman: "I'm so "experienced" I've invested in two dozen scams."
punkman: shut up and take my money!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 300 @ 0.0055 = 1.65 BTC
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla so you're a global warming denier i take it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3500 @ 0.00018576 = 0.6502 BTC [-] {4}
pankkake: time to IPO revolutionary acne skin cream
mircea_popescu: "the secret MPEx doesn't want you to know about how a single mom made stock monyz working from the kitchen"
ThickAsThieves: TAT Spotted At Restaurant, You Won't Believe What We Saw!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 35 @ 0.0055 = 0.1925 BTC
mircea_popescu: "Dear @BTCFoundation, please eat shit and drop dead for promoting scumbags like @Mircea_Popescu #bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: the best part about google is that by googling mpoe-pr i get a link to her recent posts
ThickAsThieves: did you notice RPietilla's name now says he is slave to Goat?
ozbot: Twitter / BTCFoundation: #Bitcoin entrepreneur saves ...
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many more people enter bitcointalk googling for mpoe-pr than for anything else
punkman: I only ever read MPOE-PR recent posts
mircea_popescu: pankkake apparently he hates me and a fellow named d. cameron whoever that is
ThickAsThieves: he's also the one who Goat made a big trade with last year,
mircea_popescu: goat is basically this lamer that likes to gossip about things pretending like he's related to them
mircea_popescu: you know the guy who's always "oh, universal pictures ? yeah my cousin works there"
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mircea_popescu: now, while he was involved with the pirate crap, and pumped it, and it failed,
mircea_popescu: i am confident he wasn't meaningfully involved with... silver.
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mircea_popescu: at least in romanian, "enormitate" means this incredibly stupid thing [to say]
davout: yes, in french too, "une énormité", exactly the same meaning
mircea_popescu: kind-of works the same way in english, and in french too
davout: but when you say it this way it means something like "fucking incredible"
davout: splendimagilistickexplialidorous
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mircea_popescu: MP's MI5: someone said karpeles was spotted in the bahamas
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mircea_popescu: yes, there does exist a network of individuals who operate outside of the constraints of "normal society"
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mircea_popescu: i mean... zero hedge tries to push a bitcoin bet site, gets humiliated like 10k to 1 by trilema
mircea_popescu: trilema is not a blog, however, not anymore than a mercedes is "white".
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mircea_popescu: now that's a blog that influences public oppinion, daily mail.
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mircea_popescu: it's so cool that pretty much everything women do is now merely a pretext for them to get porn careers.
mircea_popescu: and that everything the plebs do is pretty much a pretext for them being exploited, wikipedia chief example
KRS-One: Yes, mircea_popescu. Someone has to do it, preferrably them.
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mircea_popescu: god i'm so happy to have been born now rather than at any other time.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people actually felt this way historically.
KRS-One: In the mean time, I think my wife awaits in Germany. Wonder what the I.T. market for a gringo guy from the U.S. is like there.
ThickAsThieves: even being a celebrity means having to seriously ponder when/whether to do a sex tape
mircea_popescu: it's pretty much all it is, you now get the opportunity to show us your tits like we cared.
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KRS-One: mircea_popescu: being born in the 1930's might not have been bad.
mircea_popescu: so what, you can be raised by a poor mother working two shifts and an absent father who then came back as an antsy alcoholic ?
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KRS-One: yep, amazing growth and good life from the late 40's to the late 70's.
KRS-One: Ya the 50's seemed like the new trends would have been annoying as fuck.
KRS-One: Americans had it very well all of those decades.
chetty: so what would be a good decade?
mircea_popescu: which... you know, the braindead have it very well today, i'm sure.
davout: maybe 100 years from now mircea futurescu will say the exact same thing
KRS-One: I noted no lack of prosperity.
KRS-One: ThickAsThieves: the 90s was my time..best music and everything.
the20year: US has had it pretty good all the 20th century
mircea_popescu: maybe the 90s were ok in grenwich village too, but i wouldn't trade.
KRS-One: yeh 90s music was great imo..it improved the 80's and launched a new rock and roll
mircea_popescu: yeah, even the rap/w/e stuff black people did in the 90s was pretty cool.
the20year: Iron maiden has been good since they started, and the 90s weren't really significantly better than any other decade
the20year: Nirvana is ok for people with poor musical taste
KRS-One: iron maiden is f'n amazing
the20year: Tool is one of th few 90s bands I like
the20year: tool ,alice in chains, a few others like them are the only noteworthy 90s bands
KRS-One: thats cool..thickasthieves, got one better?
davout: the coolest music happened before 1950
mircea_popescu: the20year you like tool and discuss the musical taste of people liking nirvana ?!
mircea_popescu: this is like... ok you're banned on music criticism nao
the20year: In the grand scheme fo things, tool is only mediocre
KRS-One: they are a percussion band
mircea_popescu: but in no scheme of things in which nirvana sucks tool can be mentioned.
the20year: And nirvana worse than that, of all the music out there, 50 years from now, very little from the 90s will be played
the20year: Nirvana will be one of the very little that will be played
the20year: By 1998, in the US there was plenty of 80s being played still, today there is very little 90s music being played outside of things like nirvana ,tool, apc, metallica, and other similar hard rock type bands
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the20year: The pop of the 80s is still being played along with the pop of the 60s and 70s, not so much for pop music from the 90s
ThickAsThieves: <the20year> By 1998, in the US there was plenty of 80s being played still, today there is very little 90s music being played outside of things like nirvana ,tool, apc, metallica, and other similar hard rock type bands --- that is not how you sort things
the20year: How often do you hear nsync or 98 degrees, or new kids on the block on the radio?
the20year: (Almost never, and that's because they're compeletely irrelevant)
the20year: go look at the billboard top 20 from 1991 through 1999
ThickAsThieves: first, you dont judge quality of a decade's music by what is currently on the radio
the20year: and tell me how often any of those songs are continued to be played
mircea_popescu: anyway. 1940 really means wenn die soldaten and embrasse-moi
ThickAsThieves: second, you dont use shitty pop commercials as exmples
ThickAsThieves: radio is mortally wounded, probly not a good signal for anything
the20year: There are exceptions to my statement of 'the 90s sucked musically' but considering how much music was put out during that decade
ThickAsThieves: a signal of what blue collar workers are willing to put up with at work maybe
benkay: blue collar workers don't get a say in what's pumped in their ears on-shift.
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mircea_popescu: that's 1940. not w/e dubious jazz you can't even name that was barely getting started.
benkay: wow wenn die soldaten is like 9 minutes long
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KRS-One: 1930's, 1940's jazz was amazing.
mircea_popescu: (i don't dispute it was great. i dispute you can even name it)
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KRS-One: I used to play trumpet in grade school and i was well schooled in music and music composition.
KRS-One: I'd have to sit and think to remember more.
davout: KRS-One: trumpet looks like a fucking hard instrument
KRS-One: It took me years, but I'm sure you can say that about any instrument.
mircea_popescu: anyway, in the 40s armstrong was sutck in tin pan alley, dunno how many people even knew he existed
mircea_popescu: which is kind-of how it will play with the 90s or whatever other decade. we're probably so badly deluged in all the crap
mircea_popescu: that people in 2050 with a functional musicgoogle will be wtf, you had nothing audible in 2013 ? how about xyz
mircea_popescu: and we'll be like... wtf is x, y or z even, never heard it
KRS-One: not sure what to make of current stuff, a lot of crap out there now..unless its my tastes changing.
davout: thoughts about the "Frantic" movie ?
KRS-One: Dizzie Gillespie another great one
KRS-One: ThickAsThieves: ya think? do you notice that too
KRS-One: Oh Duke Ellington did some of my favorite hits.
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KRS-One: I tried so hard to play his music..Benny Goodman had a great band.
KRS-One: Some very well cultered people in this chat room, I'm in good company.
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mircea_popescu: you know how all chinese ppl speak "chinese" and indians from india "indian" ?
ThickAsThieves: i know some portuguese and it's not much help for romanian
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mircea_popescu: i know romanian and french and spanish and as a result portuguese is directly transparent
davout: yeah, if you know FR+ES PT is easily understandable
ThickAsThieves: if you know spanish you know portuguese, especially brazilian style
mircea_popescu: amusingly, i notice the 1st comment is from a french speaking emanuelle seigner fan.
KRS-One: to me Brazilian Portugese doesn't sound spanish.
KRS-One: And the Cubans are out to win a race for speed for some reason..Can never follow them.
mircea_popescu: once you follow a conversation between two women speaking simultaneously at about 120wpm
KRS-One: it is probably an older language too right?
KRS-One: It would make sense if so.
mircea_popescu: well anything'd be an older language than creoles spoken in the new world.
KRS-One: I don't know much about language but find it interesting..funny how many words are similar.
davout: so isn't the first sentence something like "Frantic is the exact kind of movie for Harrison Ford" ?
davout: or "that he could have made" ?
mircea_popescu: "Frantic e exact genul de film care-i place lui Harrison Ford. " = frantic is exactly the type of film hf likes.
KRS-One: Seems very much like Latin.
davout: explain "care-i place lui"
mircea_popescu: care which. place, a placea, to like. -i lui pronouns required by the verbal form
davout: so place is the actual verb, care the complement and hf the subject
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davout: i'm in love with his accent
benkay: oh are we talking about bitcoin again?
jurov: no, about future billionaires
mircea_popescu: holy shit piaf's le contrebandier doies nopt exist on youtube. at all.
davout: i found one, but it has been removed due to copyright complaints apparently
mircea_popescu: yeah, see, then all the tinfoil hatters rant about da gubbermint.
mircea_popescu: Lâchez tous les chiens et puis planquez-vous au fond de vos cabanes.
mircea_popescu: Regardez sur la dune l'homme qui passe là-bas. Il est pourtant seul mais vous n'l'aurez pas.
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mircea_popescu: i wonder what "champagne velvet" from terre haute, ind bottling co tasted like
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ozbot: Was Philip Seymour Hoffman gay?
ThickAsThieves: i have this working theory/curiosity that a majority of artists are gay
KRS-One: JayZ sucks imo..not sure how he got so big
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benkay: sounds like the cops just wanted an excuse to bust that ring
KRS-One: ThickAsThieves: You could be right with that theory, artists can be that way or go both ways.
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benkay: Thomas Cushman, 48; Robert Vineberg, 57; Juliana Luchkiw, 22; and Max Rosenblum, 22
benkay: what, you think the kids were actually moving weight?
ThickAsThieves: also the more highly intelligent people i'm friends with seem sexually confused at best
KRS-One: not sure there is a connection with intelligence
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KRS-One: Self awareness has an attribute of realizing we are animals, but I'm not sure I agree with all that.
mircea_popescu: you kidding me, i'm like the one left rock of actual straightness in a sea of you bicurious drug addled peeps!
pankkake: straight/gay is the most boring sexual distinction
benkay: unless you have sex only in the missionary position you're a fucking weirdo, mircea_popescu.
benkay: having sex at all makes one a fucking weirdo these days. more than one partner? you're at least three standard deviations out.
mircea_popescu: benkay you know tons of chicks actually love missionary ?
benkay: also yes i do but that's not the point i'm making.
benkay: (also come on does no one appreciate the standard deviation pun?)
benkay: i forewent standard deviant 'cause i expect too much from y'all apparently
mircea_popescu: exercise for benkay and anyone else : let the standard deviations be calculated for one who only engages in sexual congress with members of one gender that accept as prerequisite that they may not have any say in when sex is happening nor in the choice of partners or activities.
KRS-One: there is a lot of gayness out there, in my .bait i find solitude.
benkay: .bait is a solitary activity, yes...
benkay: don't know that that's a calculation i really have time or interest in. sounds more like piles of time spent surveying that'd be better spent recruiting the surveyed into my bed
KRS-One: Yes maybe thats a better word?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, since we're talking about recruiting, here's a ploy i invented during dinner earlier :
mircea_popescu: you sign up to a forum, under the pretense you are a time traveller from the future. you establish this persona, more or less humorously but intelligently,
benkay: "i'm doing a survey on sexual practices. oh hey! you're right up my alley - come with me, i'm going to insert someone else in you."
mircea_popescu: then in due time you explain that the REASON you took the time trip is because the future sucks, and you are seeking your own mother in her youth to fuck her and so in causing a singularity erase that sucky future.
mircea_popescu: (obviousl;y some research as to the more nubile forum members being i norder)
davout: ThickAsThieves: you are right, mircea_popescu has issues
KRS-One: interesting reading nevertheless! lol
KRS-One: fantasies + mediatation is badass
KRS-One: there is no telling where your mind can go if you let go
KRS-One: try it sometime..u can think some crazy shit..idk maybe its all the drugs i did
davout: KRS-One: what? fantasies or meditation?
davout: KRS-One: when i sit I try to not think
davout: but i guess the point is to be aware of what happens not shut everything off
KRS-One: someone told me once about microdosing LSD...after a while he spoke perfect German without learning..wtf? I am still thinking he was bullshitting.
KRS-One: but who knows, never tried the stuff.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well the same stupid idea from last year that came out of that scamsite betsofbitco.in as well.
BingoBoingo: This allowing people to bet on a sure thing, but at a loss was a genius idea.
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mircea_popescu: no wait wait, i'm getting the credit. it was mine. kakobrekla just implemented it badly.
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davout: so if frantic isn't that good i guess i'll have to settle on robocop 3
benkay: i saw a trailer for a new robocop last night
benkay: i love how american movies are 90% animated these days. actual actors must just be too damn expensive or the profit margins just darn slim.
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davout: i watched it, it's fun
pankkake: so, does current detroit look like robocob detroit yet?
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davout: i watched the original one a week ago, it is amazing, the haircuts, the glasses, the music everything
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benkay: you won't catch me in detroit any time soon. the only dystopian megalopolis i'm interested in is buenos aires.
benkay: Detroit isn't even a proper city any more.
davout: weren't they supposed to be bankrupt?
Namworld: I hope Detroi becomes a complete ghost town eventually.
Namworld: I need a ghost modern city I won't have to take a plane accross the oceans to see in China.
mircea_popescu: if your definition of ghost town allows for squatters you can probably check out washington dc
Namworld: Cairo has the same issue as China.
mircea_popescu: actually, california and generally the us west is littered in 100% abandoned towns
mircea_popescu: they may not be very big, maybe a square mile or two, but still
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> if your definition of ghost town allows for squatters you can probably check out washington dc <<< Asbury Park in NJ at least used to be ghostly
Namworld: If it's ghost enough, there won't be squatters, simply because there won't be food supplied to the area, because no shops open.
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mircea_popescu: right. check out the litany of abandoned mining towns all through ca, az, nm etc
Namworld: Unless they eat the roaches feeding on wood and glue.
mircea_popescu: squatters don't normally have money to buy anything in a shop anyway, so it's even
Namworld: There's no food to steal or find in dumptser too without shops. That's the issue.
mircea_popescu: Kern county has i think 100 or so abandoned settlements
Namworld: I was kinda hoping for a ghost town large enough to have skyscrapers in disrepair.
mircea_popescu: Namworld that's not possible for a strict reason of closeness.
mircea_popescu: skyscrapers are relatively new tech, economy doesn't shift fast enough to have those yet.
mircea_popescu: unless it;s mismanagement (there are in egypt some towns developed but never occupied say)
Namworld: I know, that's why I said I hope that's how Detroit ends up.
Namworld: Eventually become the first specimen.
Namworld: Depends on how long it's been left in disrepair I guess.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves at least no plane's landing in that one naimean ?
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punkman: Alibaba is such a shithole. Every other day they send me this useless email "Shop the best deals & discounted items!!!!11lol!!"
punkman: Mouser one the other hand is kinda nice, "You have purchased the following part number(s) from Mouser Electronics within the last two years. The manufacturer has published a Product Change Notice. Please click on manufacturer part number to view product details and similar products for replacements."
punkman: generic tact switch is EOL'd. Clearly I should know about this.
mircea_popescu: like the past week, right ? it lost like 30% of value and now... it stopped.
punkman: ponzi schemes need at least a decade too
punkman: satoshi is just waiting for the right moment
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mircea_popescu: funny thing too : back before the alt explosion, the #1 "criticism" the general public had was "bitcoin is a ponzi"
mircea_popescu: now that joe q random can happily make his own crypto-ponzi, nobody says the word anymore.
mircea_popescu: obviously the entire thing was powered by the general public's jealousy
mircea_popescu: much like the entire "my neighbour is rich clearly he stole it"
mircea_popescu: if somehow the entire neighbourhood goes into theft nobody complains about how the rich stoled it anymore. because fundamentally everyman's objection isn't that someone's rich
punkman: half my neighbours squatted on the land with shitty little houses, until they got a proper title and sold off to someone that could build an apartment building
davout: ThickAsThieves: sounds like it could work
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ThickAsThieves: Apocalyptic / kakobrekla / jurov when will you release an altcoin exchange and host ATC trades?
jurov: when mpex start accepting altcoins, then yes
jurov: and what about sth like X.ALT ?
mircea_popescu: you know someone in the thread was making an offer iirc ?
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mircea_popescu: you have significant atc holdings and the ability to make deliveries ?
ozbot: Creating my own bitcoin bank
mircea_popescu: "A bank isn't something you start on a whim after drawing a doodle on a napkin"
mircea_popescu: . If it's not immediately clear to you why citizen banking is a bad idea in general, I'd suggest paying the first person you can find who can draw a flow chart of themselves, your torso, and a scalpel to perform heart surgery on you; on the off-chance you survive, the recovery time'd make for good reconsidering.
ThickAsThieves: okay so what signal is it that the forum is starting to like her too?
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pankkake: no glowing ignore makes minds more open?
pankkake: because thermos can't fix the forum
mircea_popescu: punkman a wonder they missed out on adding thc in there
mircea_popescu: i rue the day i'll end up in a car filled with buttons labeled conveniently "easy" "simple" "fun" etc for my convenience.
punkman: maybe they could make some money suing US companies with BTC in their name
jurov: maybe i said it already but still, how will the OS work in 50 years?
jurov: 1. linux will ahve one button "Do What I Mean"
punkman: if you would please scroll down to "Close Buisness Button" on thebcbank.com
jurov: 2. windows will have one button "Make Me Happy"
davout: punkman: this part is brilliant
jurov: 3. mac will have no button at all
davout: just below "Apporval Escillation"
mircea_popescu: i tell you, i read those stories about x company using forced child labour and my only two thoughts are
punkman: they will soon be in the bitcoin mines again
davout: "Your balance : 5 POTATOES"
mircea_popescu: a. i bet you they don't whip them nearly enough and b. why the fuck aren't they doing this to white kids already.
ThickAsThieves: "All security and fraud employees have access to immediately begin cold-storage draining of all accounts to cooresponding offline wallets to prevent any further loss of funds. "
KRS-One: from what I saw of odesk it seemed like a cesspool
davout: mircea_popescu: right below "Apporval Escillation" XD
davout: mircea_popescu: they'll fix it shortly
mircea_popescu: which you know... coulda been quite humorous. "hello, your founds are losts"
punkman: "All security and fraud employees have access to immediately begin cold-storage draining of all accounts to cooresponding offline wallets"
punkman: how do you go from cold storage to "offline" wallets?
ThickAsThieves: Nothing is 100% secure. For this reason we bild our systems in layers preventing attackers from accessing data even if they are able penetrate a system."
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves sounds like they also invented pantyhose.
mircea_popescu: punkman just meant we have already been wtf-ing at the exac tquote for like 20 seconds
mircea_popescu: which is the 70s on the information superhighway timeline
KRS-One: They can speel really well too.. "Close Buisness Button"
davout: ALTCOIN WAI U NO BUILD
punkman: I'm just adding to the history archives
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KRS-One: If all security and fraud employees have access to drain the accounts that means everyone potentially has access..am I wrong?
KRS-One: Each user should have a wallet that only they can access.
mircea_popescu: davout you know, maybe at some point you should consider acquiring a compiler or build environment or something
davout: i don't need to, i have an appstore yo
KRS-One: yeh try another build environment
pankkake: depending on your boost version, you might have to revert something
mircea_popescu: you know, incidentally, we should have french day sometime
mircea_popescu: when everyone's required to speak french and english => kick
davout: or if you speak html éhéhé
davout: pankkake and i shall now proceed to teach french to assets using only yo mamma jokes
davout: that didn't work so well
taub: i didnt realize gox hat withdrawl troubles again
taub: way out of the loop with bitcoin stuff
davout: mircea_popescu: just keep the same suit
davout: who cares, we have the "french-touch"
davout: that's what you hear all day on the radio, "blah blah blah economy shitty, blah blah, but hey, french touch!"
mircea_popescu: i think the french touch is when the girl is working in the garden and you jump her
pankkake: french touch is basically some sort of French talent. of course, that talent goes to work elsewhere
mircea_popescu: and then a few hours later you find dry earth in your hair and get all wtf
Namworld: French-Touch: 2D12 necrotic damage + 3D4 acid damage + 3D4 poison damage
mircea_popescu: also, when moiety comes back we gotta do "moque l'ecosse" day.
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moiety: bonjour monsieurs, que quelqu'un a dit tartan?!
mircea_popescu: i dunno in what shitty country that's the average woman srsly.
davout: which one are you referring to?
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mircea_popescu: barbie is about 20. the average twenty year old is not built like a flatbed truck
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pankkake: left is a giraffe with no boobs, right is a trunk with no boobs
davout: does it claims it represents the average *20* woman ?
davout: or just the average woman?
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell Jere_Jones now is the time when you go "o hello assets, you were right, i was wrong, thank you for advising me even if i was too clueless to understand you know much better than me"
pankkake: and missing the sexiest body part, the navel
davout: i just learned a new english word, yay!
mircea_popescu: davout i guess you're right, a large part of the problem was semantical anyway
davout: indeed, as hitler once said: "most problems are semitic"
Jere_Jones: o hello assets, you were right, i was wrong, thank you for advising me even if i was too clueless to understand you know much better than me
☟︎ Jere_Jones: I resisted the advice, but in the end, I did follow it.
mircea_popescu: post averted, i was just about to publish a rant about how they jus' don
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Jere_Jones: I'm glad that I could save you some work.
moiety: so you don't want me to give Valeria Lukyanova a call then mircea_popescu?
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mircea_popescu: it's not such a rare body type for white eastern girls. pretty much the true caucasian type.
moiety: yep, she talks to aliens you know
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moiety: it's not rare when you remove a rib or two, no. Aside from that, it's her makeup that looks really out of place
moiety: yeah shehad a couple removed she said once
moiety: refuses to give actual age
KRS-One: if you are a man and have some ribs removed you can give yourself oral..so the story goes.
KRS-One: I'll try that next time..thought ozbot was a dude.
KRS-One: That girls ass on teh Saving Abel album revs my motor
moiety: KRS-One: that rumour comes from Prince, it's what he apparently had done
moiety: mircea_popescu: nah, can't be over 30. I'm thinking she is protecting future guesses down the line
mircea_popescu: maybe she's just a traditionally brought up girl that doesn't suck it, doesn't swallow and doesn't share her age
mircea_popescu: she just does weird makeup, has boobjobs and ribs removed that's all
moiety: of course she doesn't, she's been too busy locked in her room piling on the makeup or in a hospital ward!
mircea_popescu: moiety if you know how to code you can prolly make an irc bot to do men pics
moiety: my coding would probably return pics of caravans or something
mircea_popescu: irc bots are not that hard, you just get a supybot to run and then learn to tweak it
mircea_popescu: if you're not doing anything else, learning to turn a new trick can only improve your street value.
moiety: i had started a discussion point bot, to give people things to talk about so i didn't have to drag them through daily conversation so much
mircea_popescu: hm. anyone have a link handy to that number guesser asciilifeform made ?
moiety: kk if you don't hear back from me, i jumped out the window at a 1% score
mircea_popescu: don't do anything drastic like hurting yourself over failure
mircea_popescu: if you must have the negative reinforcement just do humiliation,
moiety: ha that is a neat little page
mircea_popescu: the "brain" involved is an application of markov chains.
moiety: fuck is that where captchas came from?
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moiety: [71.43 think i will stop there.] ty, this is a good example
jurov: lol that would be proper anticaptcha
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gribble: #19541 Sun Feb 9 17:54:58 2014 mod6 BUY 100000.0 ATC @ 1.8e-06 BTC ((Want to buy up to 100,000 ATC for around 0.00000180 BTC each, ~0.18 BTC total. Smaller amounts ok too! Must have WoT rating. PM me, lets make a deal!)
ozbot: 'Dumb Starbucks' stupid mystery: Who's behind the faux coffee front in Los Feliz? | 89.3 KPCC
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moiety: lol nice. so who is up for dumb gox?
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moiety: you think this will lead to more?
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mod6: ok well, guess its order #19542 now
mod6: cleaned it up a bit. better rate if someone has mpex account and can receive btc through there.
nubbins`: who camps outside a store for a cheap tv?
nubbins`: i think it's an american thing
pankkake: coffee is typically a I WANT THIS NOW thing with me
mircea_popescu: nubbins` but a tv i can see. some poor people save for a tv.
pankkake: especially since it comes out faster than tea, I conditionned myself like that
nubbins`: poor people who like starbucks, that's who
mircea_popescu: pankkake it's service, right ? the value of a cup of coffee in and of itself is ~zero
nubbins`: FWIW, starbucks regular drip coffee isn't any more expensive than any other coffee shop
nubbins`: tastes like shit for reasons which many obstinately ignore, but that's another discussion
mircea_popescu: "Despite the popularity, customers seemed confused about what exactly was going on."
mircea_popescu: "I have no idea what's going on yet i'm stuffing shit in my mouth"
mircea_popescu: it is beyond me how that entire thing continues to function.
nubbins`: you'd be surprised how many people have said to me "YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU'LL GET SUED" after seeing some star wars parody shirts we printed for a client
pankkake: from what I understand it's a place you go to show how cool you are
mircea_popescu: pankkake wouldn't all that be nullified by a) it being free and b) you waiting in line ?
nubbins`: pankkake, the feeling of power than one gets from having a very long-winded, very specific drink order plays a part in this too
pankkake: of course not you have to stand in line in cool places
mircea_popescu: wait wait. so basically... they want to be me, except with something small that they can understand. it's not "build me a thing so and so and back and forth", which is what execs do all day.
nubbins`: "i'll have a coffee" is what a prole says
mircea_popescu: it's "make me a coffee so and so etc", which hey, ceo for drinks ?
nubbins`: "i'll have a quad grande six pump vanilla one inch steamed breve Americano" is what a cultured person says
nubbins`: "order me a triple venti decaf 120 degrees skinny hazelnut wet latte"
mod6: speaking of starbucks.. i hardly ever go there. but the other day i was like, "hi, tall black coffee plz." then they served me the kiddy cup. im like "wtf!?"
nubbins`: fwiw these are seriously drinks you can order
moiety: mircea_popescu: wait, lmao was i only meant to have 6 tries?!
moiety: and re coffee: my first thought was what are they serving? there's no licence and it's free, could be anything
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: nor do they allow starbucks in their country
mod6: yeah, they told me that, and im like thinkin... 'only in starbucks-universe, when someone orders a `tall` they give you a kiddy cup'
moiety: ahhh but but but mircea_popescu ... i'm at 71% lol that won't stick if i keep playing XD
nubbins`: mod6, the kiddy cup is a "short"
nubbins`: from smallest to biggest: short, tall, grande, venti
mod6: when did coffee get so complicated?
moiety: what on earth do they call espressos?
nubbins`: mod6, when the average disposable income reached a certain point
pankkake: I've been almost a week without coffee, this discussion is torture!
moiety: nubbins`: so disappointing...
mircea_popescu: your doctor who is french forbid to you, a frenchman, coffee ? and this happened in france ?
nubbins`: "The Double Ristretto Venti Half-Soy Nonfat Decaf Organic Chocolate Brownie Iced Vanilla Double-Shot Gingerbread Frappuccino Extra Hot With Foam Whipped Cream Upside Down Double Blended, One Sweet'N Low and One Nutrasweet, and Ice is the longest possible order you could order at Starbucks."
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pankkake: so I guess starbucks, with macdonalds, is a place where I will never understand orders
moiety: you poor soul pankkake how long have you got to suffer this lifestyle?
pankkake: moiety: hopefully just a few days
mircea_popescu: moiety he could just get an enema, but he's too bicurious for that.
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nubbins`: “This is exactly why I only order the Blueberry Muffins from Starbucks.” ~ Oscar Wilde
moiety: gonna make kiwi and apple muffins tomorrow
pankkake: what would happen if I go to there and ask for coffee, black?
moiety: sounds like a plan to find out mircea_popescu
nubbins`: they ask if you want a dark or medium roast
moiety: they probably wouldn't understand pankkake
mircea_popescu: i don't think they have one in this town, and likely i wouldn't want to go there anyway
nubbins`: they actually wonder if you'd like a dark roast or pure carbon
mircea_popescu: what if you go there and tell the girl "i just want you for the sex" ?
moiety: i never know if im in starbucks or costa coffee
moiety: i think they call the police mircea_popescu
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, they pour scalding water on you
mircea_popescu: how do they call the police ? "hello officer. vente low fat nutrasour evilguy!!!!" ?
nubbins`: notably, international starbucks locations all use the same terminology
nubbins`: so you can go to a starbucks in, say, romania and order the same drink you do in seattle
nubbins`: not even mcdonald's provides this level of americanization
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nubbins`: "i guess this is true... a hypothetical you..."
moiety: i really want coffee now too
pankkake: I need to find more of the coffee I got at christmas. from tanzania
nubbins`: know what pisses me off about tanzanian coffee?
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nubbins`: no, that you can only buy peaberry coffee from there
davout: "complex coffee for two..." <<< lmao
dub: why this talk of starbucks and coffee
mircea_popescu: dub because people saw dumb on a marquee and got all excited
dub: if you like coffee you've never been to startbucks
nubbins`: on average, 5% of coffee beans are peaberries.
nubbins`: and yet EVERY BAG OF COFFEE YOU CAN FIND from tanzania is 100% peaberries
nubbins`: and it's almost impossible to find a non-tanzanian peaberry
nubbins`: this is for no good reason other than some asshole decades ago decided "hey, i'll sell all these peaberries as a tanzanian thing"
nubbins`: pankkake, it's when there's one bean in the cherry instead of two
nubbins`: left is peaberry, right is normal
davout: it looks like potato-coffee
pankkake: oh… I don't remember how mine was
pankkake: thankfully you put water in it
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nubbins`: some people prefer peaberry because they've been more carefully selected, but.. shrug
nubbins`: dub: my first coffee experiences as an adult were starbucks
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dub: I'd die before going to starbucks
pankkake: I don't think you are allowed in without a macbook anyway
nubbins`: saw a photo once of some asshole with a desktop computer set up in a starbucks
mod6: nubbins`: he was there for the lan party
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nubbins`: speaking of compiling, eulora fans are clamouring for a new release
davout: i'll have a Double Ristretto Venti Half-Soy Nonfat Decaf Organic Chocolate Brownie compiler pl0x
nubbins`: i have a friend who used to work at a starbucks
nubbins`: the assholes would be secretly given decaf mon-thurs and regular on fridays
nubbins`: start the day off with a nice migraine
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mircea_popescu: nubbins` you mean that camel piss is so bad people who drink it regularly can't tell decaf from normal ?
mod6: "i paid $8 for it, it /must/ be what I ordered!"
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: it's burnt to char, it all tastes the fucking same
jurov: gentlemen, should i happen to end up in starbucks again,
jurov: whats the the code for proper, nicely smelling, italian espresso?
moiety: i might just go and make muffins now, to go with coffee
jurov: so far i only attained some unidenfifiable brown beverage
mircea_popescu: jurov mezzo serbatoio benzina, schiuma greggio e stronzi oca galleggianti
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jurov: and the other day we went trying taco bell "they rly eat this????"
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jurov: everyone around here got addicted to original lavazza/franck and he like
jurov: i don't see starbucks happening here anytime soon
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jurov: had cofee already?
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KRS-One: people where i live even make fun of taco bell...we call it "taco hell"
moiety: i have never sampled a taco in my life
jurov: didn't miss anything
jurov: *you haven't missed anything
nubbins`: rest of it is just boiled turd
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, you have 2% AND 2.5% milk?
mircea_popescu: some countries are shitty and do 2% and 3%. some countries are beter and do 2.5% and 4%
moiety: gold top is the way forward in the milk world
nubbins`: and then various creams and blends
mircea_popescu: why not just buy some actual milk and water it down yourself then
nubbins`: it's highly illegal to sell unpasteurized milk here
nubbins`: like, you can't even buy shares in a fucking cow
nubbins`: some farmer here used to sell unpasteurized milk
mircea_popescu: what, you can't pool your moneyz with someone to buy a cow ?
nubbins`: so he sold essentially cow timeshares
mircea_popescu: moiety sounds like a shade under ok. they prolly skim a little to make butter or w/e
Duffer1: was he not selling it in a bag? that could be the trouble
nubbins`: Duffer1 this "bag" thing is a mainland construct
moiety: the cows are smaller apparently
nubbins`: now ostensibly the people buying this unpasteurized milk knew what they were doing
mircea_popescu: it's actually kinda unhealthy for kids to never have raw milk
nubbins`: it's unhealthy to not consume the milk of another species?
moiety: a woman just breastfed a puppy to save it's life
mircea_popescu: the introduction of the cow marked a major explosion in human society and evolution
mircea_popescu: we aren't human in any sense if that sense excludes cows.
mircea_popescu: we're a construct of our history, and they're in there.
nubbins`: how about all the places where cow milk isn't really a thing?
mircea_popescu: there's a reason europe kicked butt, and that reason has a lot to do with cows
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nubbins`: sure, but that's like saying wheat isn't another species
mircea_popescu: this all aside : it's not unhealthy per se. it's just that the imune system beenfits from the "dirty" that cow milk is.
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jurov: except in times where it got its butt kicked by herds from the east (that subsisted almost exclusively on milk)
nubbins`: feeding your kid worms is healthy if you wanna go that route
mircea_popescu: nubbins` but see, we're not culturally and anthropologically a thing that resulted from 5k years of worm eating.
mod6: we feed our kids happy meals and grape soda... so there you hvae it.
mod6: 2 litres at a time!!!!!1
mircea_popescu: when you say "human" you say that kind of chimp which domesticated cows and then drank their milk and so on and so forth
nubbins`: i'll have a 2 liter happy meal please!
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nubbins`: so norway is doing well so far in sochi
KRS-One: authenitc mexican food is quite good
mod6: remember when the medals use to be actual gold, silver and copper? at the last olympics they were just 'coated'. this time I've seen gaping holes in the medals.
nubbins`: was it last time that the medals looked like CD-Rs?
nubbins`: KRS-One, authentic * is generally pretty good
mircea_popescu: yet another reason for me not to compete in the olympics
nubbins`: there was a 33yo woman today won a medal in snowboarding
nubbins`: just learn to ski and there's biathlon right there
nubbins`: cut your dick off and compete with the women
mircea_popescu: why would i want to compete with women w/o my dick ? that's the only reason to even do it