BingoBoingo: Gribble why can't Malasia airlines stay in the air?
fluffypony: ;;8ball can Air Malaysia go another 6 months without an incident?
gribble: One would be wise to think so.
fluffypony: ;;8ball is BingoBoingo secretly a ball player?
mircea_popescu: ;;8ball did fluffypony have sex with his wife and two hookers
BingoBoingo: ;;8ball is fluffypony wearing his pony tail buttplug like right nao?
cazalla: BayAreaCoins, post dancing vid link at least
fluffypony: ;;8ball is everyone on the Bitcoin foundation seriously into little boys?
BingoBoingo: ;;8ball Paranoia is healthy if it is for practical reasons, right?
BingoBoingo: ;;8ball What about atcbot gribble. You know atcbot can get it.
atcbot: 722@279 30k@278 43k@242 | 208k@210 200k@202 45k@201
assbot: You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell bitcoinpete You cut off my hashing privates joke early... :(
assbot: Last trade for COG on HAVELOCK was at 0.00160016 BTC [-]
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 B (Total: 474.63 B). Delta: -0.65 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021704 B (Total: 474.63 B). Delta: -0.65 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00023849 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 314 @ 0.00268559 = 0.8433 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 455 @ 0.0026502 = 1.2058 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: My how the kingdom of loathing has changed since I last visited.
BingoBoingo: It just seems... to have accelerated a lot since the last time I was on (roughly the Crimborg outbreak)
assbot: Oxygen is a Drug Act Accordingly
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: It was one of their christmas events
danielpbarron: sometimes I get really into it and log in every day to get the most adventures per day or whatever
danielpbarron: I focus on getting #1 collections of items, especially items that cannot be traded or discarded
BingoBoingo: May short term goal now that I remembered it is a thing is to get spectral pickles to be my favorite food again now that the price has come down 10 fold from the last time I saw them.
BingoBoingo: Also to try these new seasonal ascensions I missed
danielpbarron: my main account was created before ascension rolled out and has never ascended
BingoBoingo: Ah, that was back before I had regular internet access
moiety: see google added btc currency converting to the search box
BingoBoingo: I wonder when Larry and Sergey will come in here groveling for airfare?
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Most of my playing occured in the spectral pickle factory drought
assbot: Stem cell treatment causes nasal growth in woman's back - health - 08 July 2014 - New Scientist
danielpbarron: the most impressive thing I did in KoL was get the #8 collection of FDKOL Commendations
danielpbarron: unless someone is sitting on a huge pile that they haven't publically displayed, that will never get topped (can't get that item anymore and you can't trade it)
BingoBoingo: I dunno really if I did anything too special
BingoBoingo: I mean last time I really played Kol was before 68749514392093b165be8c9c53df18107748fb18a50f0e4352fce5d0cfe56943
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00270336 = 2.7034 BTC [+] {7}
danielpbarron: every time I end up playing it again, I end up wasting too much time optimizing my adventures per day and it becomes like a job that doesn't pay
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: The thing to do is get drunk and bank adventures for the next day while actually getting drunk so you pass out
danielpbarron: I'll just leave my spectral pickle pile in my mall store until the price moves up and then use that meat to back MEAT
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: What class you play as? I forget.
danielpbarron: but classes don't matter so much anymore of you ascend a lot
assbot: Real Coins (RealCoins) auf Twitter
assbot: Erik Voorhees response to NYDFS Bitcoin Proposal
assbot: linux-kernel - [PATCH, RFC] random: introduce getrandom(2) system call
dignork: asciilifeform: is hashing random input is inherently a bad idea?
dignork: assume the following scenario, I'm generating random data by throwing dices, but I expect some bias: dices are non-ideal
BingoBoingo: dignork: You don't machine and balance your dice at each corner?
dignork: asciilifeform: so compensating bias by hashing a bit more of the dice raw data is a bad idea I guess
BingoBoingo: dignork: Turn the six sides into two outcomes 0 and 1, but first make sure the dice balance at the eight corners
dignork: BingoBoingo: I'm assuming usage of cheap off-the-shelf dice
dignork: asciilifeform: I get it, but if the data is really random with "small" bias, how hashing makes it worse?
BingoBoingo: dignork: The way hashes break is "collisions"
BingoBoingo: You don't get to pick what weaker value might collide without your tronger input
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Roughly spring 2005 that was in a discrete mathematics class I took. Don't remember if in the since resold textbook or not.
dignork: i thought about it, kind of partial reversal in case hash input size is smaller than hash output
BingoBoingo was roughly beginning the process of rotting his brain with booze at this point
BingoBoingo: The professor/underDean teaching also had a ~10 year CV black hole...
BingoBoingo: Professor in question was roughly a reverse Mircea, man dominated by wife
assbot: BitBet - Masahiro Tanaka will win AL Cy Young award :: 0.04 B (27%) on Yes, 0.11 B (73%) on No | closing in 3 months 1 week| weight: 69`978 (100`000 to 1)
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BingoBoingo: Well, more 'Murican Netanyahu since the Cherokee were tan, but...
AndrewJackson: BingoBoingo - i'm not really Andrewjackson, its just my handle
BingoBoingo: AndrewJackson: Fuck you, that group accounted for like 1/32 of my ancestors
BingoBoingo: Not sure exactly because of cultural norms about breeding age vs. actualuality of the thing
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 211 Ask: 242 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 6k High: 210 Low: 210 VWAP: 210
gribble: Current Blocks: 311255 | Current Difficulty: 1.733631697850783E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 312479 | Next Difficulty In: 1224 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 47 minutes, and 22 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18508732489.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.76277
atcbot: 722@279 30k@278 43k@242 | 20k@211 208k@210 200k@202
decimation: asciilifeform: to quote Knuth on the subject: "There is a fairly obvious objection to this technique [using arithmetic operations to acquire random numbers]: How can a sequence generated in such a way be random, since each number is completely determined by its predecessor? The answer is that the sequence isn't random, but it appears to be. In typical applications the actual relationship between one number and its successor has no
decimation: physical significance; hence the nonrandom character is not really undesirable"
decimation: laster: "Sequences generated in a deterministic way such as this are often called pseudoranom or quasirandom sequences in the highbrow technical literature, but in most places of this book we shall simply call them random sequences, with the understanding that they only appear to be random. Being "apparently random" is perhaps all that can be said about any random sequence anyway."
BingoBoingo: Some would say that objection is a "political objection"
Duffer1: most of the new parts are here today, case tomorrow
Duffer1: my old comp served me well, she will be missed
BingoBoingo: Though maybe in the tweet I should have included the canonical form
BingoBoingo: So who here hasn't written a requiem in case "wetware has problems..."
assbot: gandalf falls one hour - YouTube
benkay: who is this diana_coman?
benkay: ;;gettrust diana_coman
BingoBoingo: /me wonders who hasn't written their own requiem
BingoBoingo: Or has papers saying their cadaver has joined the roman church at the moment of death
BingoBoingo: dub: I have vices, my last minutes aren't going to be pretty. I want the mourners at my memorial to feel that.
BingoBoingo: Also you can make the song of wrath in the requiem pretty badass with some power cords, diminished 5th's and ending the whole thing on a suspended seventh...
dub: you'll be dead, what does it matter
benkay: hm this nydfs paper looks like a suicide note from the usg
BingoBoingo: dub: I'll still be a ghost and I'll haunt the shit out of you if you keep up this attitude
BingoBoingo: Catholicism does a lot of shit wrong like Brock style kiddie diddling, but they do some stuff right like giving the memorial service for the dead a song of wrath
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr: The song of wrath: A cool perk of Catholicism, or so cool it is the only necessary part?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: To tell you the truth what I really want to do is synthetic corundrum in my back yard
assbot: Intercepted Audio of Ukraine Separatists - Video - NYTimes.com
BingoBoingo marvels over how common aluminum oxides are and yet how coveted particular tained aluminum oxides are
assbot: Mummification: Let's Mummify Barbie! - Kids Activities Blog
BingoBoingo has mixed feelings. would like to see if pcp give asciilifeform further practical paranoia or takes him over the edge
BingoBoingo still believs in "Balmer Coefficient" even if Ballmer hasn't hit it himself in decades.
BingoBoingo: dub: I am horrified at that lapse. You can't rightly mummify things that never lived.
dub: (official party twitter acct)
dub: and if you fold a 20 yuan note in 3 and holt it upside down maos nose looks like a 7
dub: also teh cure for aids was on that flight
dub: and 7 is the gayest number
jborkl: So how is the mpex rebuild progressing?
BingoBoingo: Seems to be going from MP's reports... Just the pain of rebuilding and robusting at the same time is a further necessary pain
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 626.89, Best ask: 626.9, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 626.89, 24 hour volume: 4729.62277386, 24 hour low: 610.0, 24 hour high: 629.0, 24 hour vwap: 619.870745689
BingoBoingo: So... mircea_popescu offers camgirls 0.1 BTC for tits, I offer lawsky 0.01 for sharpie in the pooper
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 64 @ 0.17409562 = 11.1421 BTC [-] {16}
bayareacoins: How is your day going? Anything fun and exciting or just another day in the neighborhood?
BingoBoingo: Just drunk as fuck and shat out a new blawg post
BingoBoingo: bayareacoins: Grain alcohol and distilled water. POE
bayareacoins: If you ever need a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle or anything similar to that let me know and I can probably beat markets price
bayareacoins: Small batch bourbon. Best bourbon in the universe good sir.
BingoBoingo: And how does it advance my goal of purity of essence. Simple mix of ETOH and H2O
bayareacoins: If you have to ask then you probably don't need to know :D Just know if you ever do want a bottle of Pappy hit me up :)
bayareacoins: Now that you heard about it tonight I bet you hear about it at least twice more this week. Generally how it works
BingoBoingo: I actually prefer the standards. Distilled liqour is an area where the scaling up tends to produce more consistent quality.
bayareacoins: These are $2000 bottles + . They only bottle 3000 23yr's on the years they do bottle.
BingoBoingo: And if I am in a Whiskey mood how does $2000 for moonshine beat General Grant's favorite old corw at the low end or moiety's people at the high end?
bayareacoins: I'm from the Ozarks and have never seen that :D
bayareacoins: BingoBoingo good sir, you have a wonderful night. I'm off to holler at this chick and then pass out.
BingoBoingo: bayareacoins: That's part of the problem with the price point. I've drank small batch hillbilly made and aged moonshine. Scarcity for its own sake does not guarentee a premium product
bayareacoins: You're out of your element Donny :D google Pappy Van Winkle. Gnight :D
BingoBoingo: I have a feeling the natural end to this debate would be similar to Mircea's debate about wines
BingoBoingo: Trying to jsut artificially up the price is an LVHM sort of scam
dub: there is the small matter of aesthetics
BingoBoingo: Whiskey can only get so good in Kentucky and Wild Turkey and Knobb Creek own that niche. To get better you need Wisky from Scotland.
dub: im not going to argue but I know people who would
dignork: BingoBoingo: why do you assume that killswitch opportunity is over (your link to loper)?
dignork: at the time of writing balance was different?
dignork: 2 years ago, gox is dead, large holders still exist, potential of dropping price to near zero is still there
BingoBoingo: Dropping to near zero on Stamp et al is still possible, but... Actual drop to near zero isn't possible...
gribble: Bitstamp | A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 10818261.1549 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 108.1826 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 39.6821 seconds
BingoBoingo: And who other than a govenment would survive doing such a sell on stamp to colelct their fiat after the Bitstamp anal probe?
dignork: tbh, i don't think that short price drop would kill the system, but I still don't see how today is different from 2012
BingoBoingo: Well, how much BTC does Usagi or Dank control atm?
BingoBoingo: Honestly that change was what made $100/BTC possible
dignork: So them loosing btc, makes killswitch impossible?
BingoBoingo: Well, it makes it harder that dude who can't sell his guitar and dude who can't sell his bike no longer have BTC to sell
BingoBoingo: dignork: That people who hold BTC now are capable of buying more if it goes down instead of crying makes a big difference.
mircea_popescu: assbot: Stem cell treatment causes nasal growth in woman's back - health - 08 July 2014 - New Scientist << lmao
mircea_popescu: dignork: i thought about it, kind of partial reversal in case hash input size is smaller than hash output << you have to look into rainbow tables. try something easy and well studied like md5
mircea_popescu: by the time you've got a few tbs of rainbow tables you generally also have a good enough understanding of why exactly whitening doesn't do much.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell decimation you'll have to bear in mind knuth was interested in randomness from the perspective of scientific simulation, not from the perspective of cryptography (a topic he never reasearched or to any degree understood)
assbot: Azi nu se sarbatoreste nimic pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: jborkl: So how is the mpex rebuild progressing? << slowly.
Madeline: how do I get gribble to authorize me?
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 8 hours ago
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mircea_popescu: mrX_ waiting for teh usms to come up with the winning bid.
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 8 hours ago
mrX_: trolls will be trolls
pankkake: I hope we eventually know though, refunds are no fun
pankkake: I'm not sure they realize bitbet takes the fee anyways
pankkake: they consider it won't ever be?
fluffypony: pankkake: as far as I'm aware there have been a bunch of FOIA requests submitted, so it will be made public
mircea_popescu: fluffypony wouldn';t be the first time the usg ignores the us law.
fluffypony: that's true, but then we wait for the FOIA requests to be rejected
pankkake: what are the typical delays for this?
pankkake: wow, well. it's pretty clear it's best to wait
mircea_popescu: and to think tho, this was going to be such a sweet psych op. they had it all planned and shit. and nao...
mircea_popescu: cowering behind desks, can't even say what the grandiose auction closed for.
fluffypony: maybe they've been asked not to release the price
mircea_popescu: a few moar victories like this and teh usg won't need any defeats.
pankkake: what, you think there's an organized conspiracy or something?
assbot: I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: pankkake yes. they were going to announce it originally. but then...
pankkake: I wasn't aware of any promise to make the price public
mircea_popescu: Madeline got anything where you're a) nude and b) it's not a grainy 320x200 px ?
mrX_: I would be surprised if they made the price public any time soon
mrX_: Only releasing things when forced
pankkake: but that's what the FOIA requests are for right?
Madeline: Well, I just started getting naked on the internet in the last 48 hours, sooooo... not yet! BUUUUT... I'm ready to break out the DSLR and bestow upon you the gifts of my HD nakedness.
BigBitz: when did we become -camwhores, mircea_popescu?
mircea_popescu: BigBitz nothin' wrong with a bit o' fresh tit is there.
BigBitz: There is not..... there certainly is not.
mrX_: I suppose. I'll give government credit if they do, but I wouldn't be surprised if they deny it as privileged financial information.
pankkake: Madeline: related to your previous questions about gribble, registering and completing the task will likely get you a trust rating
punkman1: did any other girls show their face or just saffron?
assbot: Rating Details for User 'sexy_saffron'
pankkake: since it was posted on reddit where many don't, it's not surprising
pankkake: (and don't do that for a living either)
punkman1: plenty of pros on reddit I'd say
Madeline: i'll definitely register after I complete my picture challenge... this shit is really cool.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.0027 = 1.35 BTC [-]
Madeline: Am I really "stripping?" I feel like that technically requires a linear timelines of clothing removal while dancing... I'm just starting straight from naked.
☟︎ punkman1: coupla girls saw me reading the pay-for-your-tits post, first question "do I have to show my face or just tits?"
Madeline: Well, aside from being NAKED, I'm going to level up this cliche with COLLEGE STUDENT! Go team!
BigBitz: hmm we have a smart one then... using words like loinera and understanding them.
punkman1: I told them "what you wanna be like the 100 other shy reddit girls, forget it"
punkman1: maybe I should recruit next time I'm at the nude beach
BigBitz: I am still seeing no tits... ping timeout... ffs.
madeline: sorry, my internet exploded and then put itself back together...
madeline: tits are coming... I've been busy answering questions about my LIFE to internet strangers because i missed the school house rock episode about not doing that.
punkman1: everyone gets a minute of fame on the internets
punkman1: story time: I was at this remote beach camping with a dozen other people. Family shows up one morning via boat and sets up tents nearby. After a few hours Old Man approaches us and is like "hey guys can you put away all the dongs, we got kids here" while not being able to take his eyes off all the perky titties splashing in the water.
mircea_popescu: sooo... "hpow about you park your kids somewhere els then" ?
punkman1: they had unpacked two boatfuls of crap already, too much work
BigBitz: So the way I read that is you were running around with your dong out and other guys had their dongs out.
punkman1: are you scared of dongs BigBitz?
pankkake: to my French ears, your nick sounds like big ding dong
punkman1: I just don't get this whole "my kid will be scarred for life if he lays eyes upon some genitals"
mircea_popescu: anyway, worst part of remote camping with a dozen other people
BigBitz: Trying to distract myself from my real work.
punkman1: need tits to take mind off silk road auction bitbet
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moiety: fluffypony: I am! I have been, i just wasnt very well so i was reading logs more. How are you?
moiety: lovely! I got some plants because they were half dying and they've perked up :D how's the flash drive? do you use the keyring?
moiety: i've had a ploshay-esque face recently, had a tooth out and took a reaction. hamster-look was inescapable
fluffypony: moiety: I haven't used the key ring, but flash drive is awesome - thank you :)
moiety: Vexual: i'm still looking at materials, had too much else on
moiety: yay good stuff madeline :]
madeline: is there a countdown... a parade...
moiety: o rest assured we're parading
cazalla: looks like i put mario kart down at the right time
madeline: 1GhyE6ec2iWzNbZrLnDCM1UJZcWZwAmMnp
cazalla: my old school teacher was on MH17
assbot: Kanahooka couple among those lost on MH17 flight | Illawarra Mercury
cazalla: yeah :\ I had him in primary school, like year 4 or 5
moiety: sorry to hear cazalla, it's really tragic
moiety: i didn't know anyone on the flight and i kinda do
BigBitz: why 6bb9 1297 or whatever?
pankkake: BigBitz: this was answered before, but maybe you can guess
pankkake: tip: it might depend on your IRC client settings
pankkake: it's the random id assigned by webchat, you see it in the join line for example
madeline: can i ask a question, or do I have to leave now that i've given up the goods?
fluffypony: you don't have to ask to ask, just ask :)
chetty: make an account, hang around :)
pankkake: you're more than welcome to stay - and register
madeline: well, it's more than one question actually... how did you all find each other? do you any of you each other in real life? what is the purpose of this particular chat group? how many people are pantsless, but still wearing socks right now?
madeline: *do any of you know each other in real life?
madeline: i ez rel gooodz at zee tiepeen
pankkake: I'm at work and fully clothed, thank god for the air conditioning though
fluffypony: I've gotten semi-sober with xmj at the Depeche Mode bar in Tallinn, Estonia
dub: pants and two pair socks here
Vexual: shit it's hotter there than here pankakke
assbot: Yo #bitcoin-assets, I put contrarianism in your contrarianism | pankkake
chetty: many of the people here have met at various conf.
madeline: pankkake: what area of the planet are in the vicinity of?
madeline: because it's the middle of the night where i am... so i assume you're at least half a planet away
assbot: Financial Cryptography: Casebook for a disaster: google's BebaPay and why it is wrong, wrong, wrong
Vexual: where are you from madeline?
assbot: The stuff all good conspiracy theories start with pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
Vexual: i was guessing hawaii, but i guess im just being pedantic
assbot: Comcastic service disconnection by ryan.block on SoundCloud - Hear the worlds sounds
madeline: so most of you work on bitcoin related endeavors?
assbot: Erik Voorhees response to NYDFS Bitcoin Proposal
pankkake: madeline: some do, I don't know about most
madeline: that's a great article, or "reflection" rather... thanks for sharing
kakobrekla: while reddit "is this a good thing ??"
pankkake: both reddit and bitcointalk though regulation will be here to help them
pankkake: for months it was all about some "JOBS" act
pankkake: what do they think, that the bitcoin securities exchange would be allowed as is?
dub: so don't transact wiht americans?
dub: vorhees is tool and what the fuck i swrong with that font?
assbot: The Role of Bitcoin as Money - Money and State
dub: he writes like an entitled teenager
dub: feels like im reading an episode of scooby doo
Vexual: thats the worst analogy ever; ther is not a single mystery in it
chetty: <dub> so don't transact wiht americans?//thats about the size of it
dub: im srsly not seeing much downside here
dub: they are increasingly irrelevant and, god willing, wont be around much longer anyway
chetty: but they splash a lot going down
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 197 @ 0.00267 = 0.526 BTC [-] {2}
Vexual: went you once capitalised?
thickasthieves: hehe /r/buttcoin now has "sponsored by Butterfly Labs" on it
assbot: Erik Voorhees response to NYDFS Bitcoin Proposal
thickasthieves: sry if linked already, havent read yesterday's log yet
Vexual: pankakke linked that not half an hour ago
thickasthieves: fukn florida electricity was all spotty yesterday so i got tired of re-authing over and over
pankkake: I was surprised it wasn't posted earlier though
thickasthieves: i was hoping mp would write something up on the matter
chetty: thickasthieves, its just more muricans digging their own grave
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thickasthieves: Can Rudy Giuliani Rescue Uber? The ridesharing app’s drivers have variously been accused of rape, kidnapping, and abuse. Now it’s bringing in the former New York City mayor to audit its background check process.
Vexual: shit, the world really is cukoo
jurov: they shoud start to abduct kids, too
jurov: and public indecencies
jurov: but afaik not children
Vexual: what about the state licensed taxi drivers?
pankkake: they're Regulated, thus can do no wrong
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chetty: didn't you guys know, unregulated = evil
thickasthieves: is there any good writing on why money laundering shouldnt be illegal or similar ideas?
chetty: should be a good topic with all the good(bad) examples of what goes wrong with bad law, everything from prohibition to the drug war
chetty: and the gubermint laments about the poor 'unbanked' while banks get harder and harder ...
pankkake: perhaps they don't like the unbanked because they don't like cash
chetty: well all the kyc and aml rules make it harder for people to get 'banked' (not saying thats a bad thing)
assbot: New Underground Economy | Cato Institute
thickasthieves: i'd like to also see some stats on organized crime and terrorism stopped thanks to AML
chetty: much of the real burden of these compliance costs will fall on those least able to afford it, while those intent on finding their way around it will do so.
chetty: that statement strikes me as the real crux of the issue
assbot: AML and OFAC Compliance Straining Banks’ Budgets, Study Finds | Bank Systems & Technology
Vexual: your everyday highsteeet banj is sgit at tax stuff
chetty: too many people making too much money out of current system
pankkake: if taxes were simple, people would realize how much they pay
pankkake: I can tell you most Frenchies have no idea they pay >50% a year, yet do
thickasthieves: "Some might argue that developing economies cannot afford to be too selective about the sources of capital they attract. But postponing action is dangerous. The more it is deferred, the more entrenched organised crime can become." This is from a pro-AML article, but it's interesting if you take it out of context to mean any entity (incl government)
☟︎ Vexual: i just saw that bhangladesi banker on bloberg today
assbot: Statistical Data - Money Laundering & Bank Secrecy Act (BSA)
Vexual: his stats were impeccible and he accepted 0 bullshit
thickasthieves: So AML gets 800 criminals per year and about 6 years in prison ea
Vexual: bhangladesh waterfront is buy
thickasthieves: "Despite increased investment in transaction monitoring systems, satisfaction has declined. Although transaction monitoring systems continue to represent the greatest area of AML spending, it appears that regulatory requirements are still outpacing system improvements"
Vexual: too long, reasonable steps is all you need
chetty: all that compliance simply drives more and more into underground economy
thickasthieves: "Seventy percent of respondents stated that they had received a regulatory visit which focused on KYC"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 333 @ 0.00267 = 0.8891 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.00265 = 1.325 BTC [-]
thickasthieves: hmm will NFLX bleed more today, or Monday after earnings report?
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Vexual: i wonder how many pocket knices he stole
Vexual: all those brie wheels saved
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Vexual: bb gonna email snoop now tho
thickasthieves: basically you buy credits with bitcoin, then in a month the price for credits plummets when people realize how expensive it is in bitcoin
Vexual: selling somet you can;t probide is theft where im from
thickasthieves: i'm not sure they wont provide, but they obv have their priorities set to getting dat bitcoin now
thickasthieves: oh btw, did i mention developers are keeping half the credits for themselves too?
thickasthieves: "Just three days after opening for business, Seattle's only weed retailer, Cannabis City, announced that its entire inventory had sold out."
thickasthieves: "In a legal market, retail producers and sellers should possess an advantage over the black market," Paul Armentano, deputy director of NORML, said in an email. "They should not be placed at a disadvantage because of the need to comply with unnecessary regulations or egregious taxation."
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FabianB: so should i move over to havelock? ;)
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Vexual: bitcoin is backed by computers
assbot: Czech Republic Gets Its Own Virtual Currency - MoneyBeat - WSJ
pankkake: there have been many auroracoins
Vexual: bitcoin prolly had huge volume today and noone knows
thickasthieves: 'The central bank said the name of the virtual currency resembles the English translation of Česká koruna, the official Czech currency, and therefore was “unfortunate and misleading.”'
thickasthieves: oh you are tricking people by creating a deceptive currency? that's unfortunate
Vexual: were you tricked into atrting altcoin?
thickasthieves: i wrote to the WSJ author to explain that he is shilling
Vexual: at least he's not spammin the chan with hewtube
mircea_popescu: ok so re mpex : the best news, really. the whole shebang is deployed and actually works, as best as anyone can determine. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases which i expect to pass 100%. bar some improbable unforeseenness, mpex should be back this weekend.
pankkake: so you said twice it would take a week, instead of saying it would take two weeks. smart
pankkake: (actually not really how it happened, but I tried)
mircea_popescu: anyway, the gpg blob from the engineer in charge was so long this morning i thought at first he's gonna kill himself and is sending me his life story.
FabianB: $proxies ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend."
empyex: FabianB: Temporarily saved.
empyex: FabianB: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>)
thickasthieves: is it weird to have no website at all when exchange is down?
mircea_popescu: $proxies ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool."
empyex: mircea_popescu: Temporarily saved.
empyex: mircea_popescu: Proxies: ".. running a final swathe of test-all-the-edge-cases .. mpex should be back this weekend. also fabian is pretty cool." MPEx-Status: Error reaching trade engine (change: $proxies <newlist>)
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves it wasn't really ever intended to do much as "the website"
Vexual: perhaps mpes is getting alibaba
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
Vexual: smpoe auddenlt buys 10 everything
Vexual: alibaba is some billions
thickasthieves: i guess i'm just saying it's maybe a lil ghetto to have no website for days
mircea_popescu: dub: he writes like an entitled teenager. feels like im reading an episode of scooby doo << yeah well. it's hard dood.
thickasthieves: but i also used to sell brochures and websites for a living, sooooo....
Vexual: yeah thats kinda oppositely
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves yeah dude, google is like, important. everywhere.
mircea_popescu: i'm sitting here building a system that exists to beat into submission the us congress and it all depends on whether google delists me or not.
thickasthieves: hey you can take it to extremes to bat it away if you like
mircea_popescu: point is, if mpex isn';t fine outside of everything that currently exists on the web, mpex isn't fine
mircea_popescu: is it ghetto and unprofessional to not care what the feminists have to say ?
mircea_popescu: because i suspect maybe this conceptual harness works more like a control tool directed towards the user
mircea_popescu: than what language is fucking intended to be (a control tool directed towards the environment)
thickasthieves: well i agree with you in that too much weight is being attributed to this concern
thickasthieves: shit man, it's ok to have your website up when your exchange is down
thickasthieves: well everything should be the way that disrupts mp the least
mircea_popescu: pankkake: if taxes were simple, people would realize how much they pay << this lol.
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mircea_popescu: assbot: New virtual currency INNCoin is backed by gold and ready to take down bitcoin <<< one a fucking week by now ?
mthreat: "organized crime" isn't usually very organized
thickasthieves: just like how fiat arguments against bitcoin taste hypocrtical on examination
mircea_popescu: mthreat actually organised crime isn't usually very well documented.
mircea_popescu: chetty: desperate for news? << no, desperate for "alternatives". and they'd better fucking find some, because I will fuck up with their careers.
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thickasthieves: love how all the dying internet boom businesses are embracing bitcoin
mircea_popescu: actually i dont think i ever bought a diff rackable server.
pankkake: google is very fast to update websites, it will also come back fast
mthreat: not sure i'd call it a niche
Vexual: ptoly tagged experimental
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pankkake: wow, maybe I'll buy a Dell U3011 after all :)
BigBitz: Austin or NYC. That's not a hard toss up.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sadly it seems mpex is one of those things still requiring a fortress.
thickasthieves: lol the WSJ writer wrote back to me "thanks for your thoughts"
fluffypony: thickasthieves: it's because you changed your nick to all lower-case
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CoinFire: Thanks fluffypony Was working on the WoT stuff but likely going to have to finish it a bit later ;)
thickasthieves: you seem to be on top of things, been reading since the SR auction
CoinFire: Fighting with my MBP at the moment which is refusing to charge LOL.
pankkake: replace the battery! oh, wait :p
CoinFire: Thanks! Certainly trying to be on top of everything at all times, lots of Google alerts, etc etc
CoinFire: LOL Exactly pankkake - Thankfully it is under warranty for a little while longer.
thickasthieves: i liked the coinjelly stuff, i noticed they wanted to talk privately, did anything come of that?
CoinFire: They've sent me some stuff and I've been waiting further confirmation from the insurance company. We will see how it plays out and if I learn more I will most certainly be updating things and posting a new entry for everyone :)
CoinFire: I'll agree thickasthieves on the font statement. I am likely going to try and get that changed this week. Another thing on the list of things lol. I find it hard to read on my iPad so it has to change :)
CoinFire: Any fonts you would rather see?
thickasthieves: yeah it's just too thin, well for google fonts, i recall Cabin being a good one
CoinFire: LOL fluffypony the doge community would enjoy that.
pankkake: "Raleway"? I don't have it, so that's why the website looks nice to me
thickasthieves: raleway is one of those graphic designer trendy fonts from a couple years ago
CoinFire: Do people still even use Papyrus? That was something I asked myself recently then I saw a hair salon had it as a giant window sticker and was just like UGH
fluffypony: the only font worse than Comic Sans and Papyrus is...Curlz
CoinFire: Then literally two days later, a church. I just head to shake my head.
fluffypony: that font needs to be stabbed in the face
pankkake: actually I'm wrong, I have it through google fonts I guess. and yeah, disabling it it's much better, it's too thin
chetty: whatever happened to just over ride the site css with your own font?
pankkake: I'm a fan of just using the default browser font (just use "sans-serif"). assuming most platforms have one that is not ugly.
fluffypony: chetty: Google Web Fonts, I'm a big fan
CoinFire: LOL That is awesome. Certainly trying to be all over them. Granted that involves virtually no sleeping ever.
fluffypony: you should hire a leggy blonde assistant
CoinFire: Checking it out thickasthieves!
CoinFire: I totally should fluffypony ;)
thickasthieves: it's a lot to read, but we generally take pride in not being reddites and slaying derpitude
CoinFire: I will be sure to get my keys and everything worked out this week as well :) Been working on a lot of stuff. It seems it never ends.
chetty: if it ends we will all be bored
CoinFire: HAHAHAHA So true chetty. So very true.
kakobrekla: at some point ill +m the chan so we can all take a break.
kakobrekla: i guess if i make my surname justin, then i can have case and time for kids.
mircea_popescu: indian cooking pronz. "oya baby, put it on the cumin side."
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: you can't do that unless you're also begging for a flight
thickasthieves: i wonder if any of our fake name businesses became real ones since
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mircea_popescu: about on par with toyota naming their prius replacement Toyota Pizda.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda poorly researched tho you know ? the 5mn domain names that were finally abandoned recently were a failed exercise in exactly this
mircea_popescu: 140 won't cut it. they need like 8bn names for diabethes.
mircea_popescu: "The sporting press is awash in liberal themes these days: the "underrepresentation" of African-American head coaches in professional football (nobody seems to object to the astounding overrepresentation of African-American players); the terrible injustice of private golf clubs refusing to accept women as members (funny, it's not a problem if Lady Victory Fitness Centers exclude men); and of course the whole business o
mircea_popescu: f women's sports, the greatest affirmative action program in existence (a woman can win a gold medal at the Olympics despite a performance that might not even qualify her for the men's event---but despite her inferior performance she wins the same medal as the men's winner)."
mircea_popescu: what is this guy, nuts ? who and why would want to see mixed gender sprint.
mircea_popescu: there are very few fields where women / men competition doesn't look like a squirrel trying to fight a raccoon.
mircea_popescu: those usually look like a raccoon trying to fight a truck.
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mircea_popescu: consider, "sex robots so poor guys can have the same shit as rich guys" ?!
chetty: munchcins vs the harlem globe trotters basketball anyone?
CoinFire: BBL Going to work on a few different things, I'll try and drop in often :)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't see that as an argument at all. just... you know, drool.
mircea_popescu: if sex robots were widely available today, i'd prolly still not use them. (for that matter, indiancandy is a sex robot, not terribly expensive - a good server costs more than what she would)
mircea_popescu: in short, it's not just the poor man's idea of what being rich is like that's wrong.
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mircea_popescu: "By the first time I had "sex" (depending on how you define it, since I took things in stages) I had already endured years of frustration and humiliation of an intensity that I don't think I can properly put into words." a ok.
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chetty: <mircea_popescu> in short, it's not just the poor man's idea of what being rich is like that's wrong.//a lot of rich dont seem to have much of a clue either
mircea_popescu: "I don't think an average man can pursue women effectively if he is primarily thinking about how good sex will feel when he gets it. That just isn't the right mindset when a man has to chat up dozens of women before he finds one with whom sex is a reasonable possibility." holy shit, with what woman is sex not a reasonable possibility ?!
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mircea_popescu: there's nothing more pernicious to the mind than its ability to construct self coherent if spectacularly wrong representations.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i tell ye, if i perceived i HAD TO chat up women i'd be a fucking homicidal maniac, notwithstanding amazing success rates. even if i never left my own harem and so my success rate was forever 100%.
mircea_popescu: why not just relax and enjoy the fact that you CAN chat up women.
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thickasthieves: "What is Coinbase? Coinbase is the world's largest platform for buying and selling bitcoins for US dollars at the current market rate."
thickasthieves: it's like the only biz that fits that description, no?
los_pantalones: you are also thinking of the word "platform" too narrowly
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mike_c: anybody can write a 10,000 line perl script. it's making it a 100 line script that's hard.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think there's a space between arguing that nobody should bang head against wall and arguing everyone should be god.
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones there's this derpitude tradition where noobs claim firstbiggest first to be one day biggest.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it also doesn't ship with any particular rule as to how it is to be employed or manifested.
mircea_popescu: which is really where the problem starts. overactive sex drive makes kids misrepresent the facts of the matter : it's true that women make for convenient release, but it's not true that's what women ARE.
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mircea_popescu: as the weirdo ages and frustration builds, this distinction becomes less readily accessible. nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: i know a few women i'm kinda tempted to eat with some regularity.
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mircea_popescu: but yes, i daresay that i'd still chat up women in the andes. wtf do i care about survival anyway.
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chetty: asciilifeform, there is something in the usa other than mice and roaches?
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fluffypony: five words: general management, cryptography, finance, cryptocurrencies, risk management
mthreat: how about a haiku for #b-a
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fluffypony: then the market is like "lol wtf is this shit"
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fluffypony: "I think money is exactly the same. I don’t think consumers will care much for the community their coin has; they will care about the algorithm. Or, more accurately, they will care about how the coin performs (mining cost, speed, security) because of that algorithm."
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: or "I’m not “hyping” these coins. These are advancements in cryptocurrency that not many people have noticed yet."
thickasthieves: <+princessnell> "As the creator of a digital currency, I..." /// wtf is this, major media shilling alts day?
fluffypony: thickasthieves: Brian Kelly is a fucktard
fluffypony: he's a CNBC "contributor" (read: blogger)
fluffypony: and he "created" NautilusCoin (read: someone else did the work)
thickasthieves: <+fluffypony> "I think money is exactly ... lulz abound
fluffypony: and it has a fat premine for a "stabilisation fund"
princessnell: o endogeneity. hookers/porn/sexbots lower cost for men of lacking power. good for high power males, high time preference women. negative externality for most others. increases pressure for neotenized males, masculinized females.
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pankkake: a fiat currency will disappear in 27 years on average. So, if you live outside the US […] the currency you use in your daily life will likely go away in 27 years
mike_c: median, mean, whatever.
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mircea_popescu: princessnell: As the creator of a digital currency, I..." << derp's never ending quest for relevancy.
mircea_popescu: one'd hope teh us propaganda drive to support their braindamage will collect better heads than the twinkletoss twins and nautilus coin guy.
mircea_popescu: i get more for .1 a tit for crying out loud. wasn't the usg supposed to be like rich and powerful and whatnot ?
mircea_popescu: "But what made Google successful as the world’s preferred search engine was not great “community” or shibe memes or aggressive marketing on Twitter." << orly.
mircea_popescu: "as a creator of a google, I know what made google successful!"
princessnell: the pipers only have to be as good as the mice they're leading
mircea_popescu: princessnell: o endogeneity. hookers/porn/sexbots lower cost for men of lacking power. good for high power males, high time preference women. negative externality for most others. increases pressure for neotenized males, masculinized females. <<< precisely.
mircea_popescu: you sound like you went to school for this or something.
princessnell: well, i'm going to school for econ, which has applicable tools
mircea_popescu: in general you can evaluate who's going to win a battle just by looking at piperquality.
mircea_popescu: black victory was predictable just looking at greenwich village cca 1960.
mircea_popescu: nautilus coin guy needs to learn to play an instrument.
princessnell: ya well, in the us instruments are relative, maaan
princessnell: too many people have been getting by on bs for so long that few know anything else
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