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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.104 = 0.312 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.11730918 = 0.5865 BTC [+]
Chris_Sabian: I have a transcation that I sent out almost 5 hours ago and it is still unconfirmed. broadcast through 99 nodes. miners fee of 0.0005 sent. any idea of why it is taking so long?
BingoBoingo: Chris_Sabian: Piss off any people who run pools?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05800082 = 0.116 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00554955 = 0.3385 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 95 @ 0.00537995 = 0.5111 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32308 @ 0.00086534 = 27.9574 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16915 @ 0.00086346 = 14.6054 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.58100019 = 5.81 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 168 @ 0.00555 = 0.9324 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 39 @ 0.00561025 = 0.2188 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.005645 = 0.5645 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05801 = 0.116 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.058 = 0.116 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.16230094 = 0.3246 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 89 @ 0.00537995 = 0.4788 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00520099 = 1.8203 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.0057 = 0.1653 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0056925 = 0.2277 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58100019 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 44 @ 0.58590347 = 25.7798 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.591 = 1.773 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34850 @ 0.00086186 = 30.0358 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: i was going to buy a toyota 86 but decided to keep driving my shit box until it goes no more
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.592625 = 4.741 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.005601 = 0.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.59499998 = 10.115 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59598917 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.59711 = 2.3884 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59598917 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Nah, I prefer my Saturn. I just thing the diving suit would be fun.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00534999 = 0.1979 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.595 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00569 = 0.1138 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0057 = 0.285 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.59675833 = 3.5805 BTC [+] {2}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.59711 = 2.3884 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 23 @ 0.59884564 = 13.7734 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.0057 = 0.2052 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.00576032 = 0.3687 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00506117 = 2.5306 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 27 @ 0.59995554 = 16.1988 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.6020002 = 4.214 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61 = 1.22 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.618666 = 1.856 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.61999887 = 6.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00086184 = 6.6362 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 64 @ 0.005799 = 0.3711 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6104 = 3.052 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.61 = 3.66 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.61 = 2.44 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61 = 1.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00086184 = 17.1075 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 31 @ 0.6257061 = 19.3969 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.63854286 = 17.8792 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 102 @ 0.005799 = 0.5915 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.61001666 = 3.6601 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX:S.MG] 1D: 0.000149 / 0.000149 / 0.000149 (160 shares, 0.02 BTC), 7D: 0.000138 / 0.00013949 / 0.000149 (1180 shares, 0.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00010001 / 0.00011616 / 0.000149 (5030 shares, 0.58 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00500341 = 2.5017 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00519999 = 0.182 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.643975 = 2.5759 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00086184 = 3.6197 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.005798 = 0.1102 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61001 = 1.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.005799 = 0.2494 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6469 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.0058 = 0.464 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0058 = 0.116 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 145 @ 0.0050008 = 0.7251 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6469 = 2.5876 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.0008618 = 3.7057 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00581503 = 0.2908 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00086257 = 8.3669 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.0050008 = 0.3701 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.1066 = 0.2132 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Crimea 2 Electric Boogaloo has been submitted to BitBet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1066 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00590674 = 0.3898 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.057375 = 0.2295 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.1066 = 0.3198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1066 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.16230094 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.61275025 = 2.451 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: Yalta actually seems like a really nice place to have a summer house
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.64483333 = 1.9345 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: Why you shouldn't trust your VPS provider | gcr's journal
BingoBoingo: That is an interesting and surprisingly easy how to
BingoBoingo: Well cold as it is this time of year, generally you can dig rabbit, minimal pulling required
BingoBoingo: So ##mtgox-statement is a lulzy channel of the moment
diametric: I've been lulzing at ##mtgox-chat for weeks
diametric: especially the guy that dropped like $5k on goxbtc through bb
diametric: the latest trend is that Mark is under a gag order
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not in ##mtgox-statement either
diametric: and that he tried to slip that message in the IRC interview by posting a 9gag image and specifically mentioning 9gag when he linked the url
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Join, log, have lulz to dump later
diametric: I'm waiting for Mark is actually a reptilian alien
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52425 @ 0.00086453 = 45.323 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00490001 = 0.98 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: He only does this maybe twice a week, let him rest.
the20year: I know it doesn't make a difference to any of you, but I managed to come up with a mobile lighting solution for doing video inside the dumps we're buying
BingoBoingo: the20year: That actually sounds more interesting than the part where you buy dumps
BingoBoingo: Anyone in this channel remember the user midnightmagic ???
BingoBoingo: Seriously ##mtgox-statement is quite a lulzmine
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00086576 = 4.5885 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.60013749 = 4.8011 BTC [-] {5}
ozbot: Putin #11187 by kockluvr - PutinGayDressup.com
MisterE: the font page is down but internal links still work
BingoBoingo: Seriously lulzy channel for people needing circuses
decimation: ascii what kind of fool would believe they have any security when someone else controls the hardware?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.629 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Anyone here have favorite chapter's of Handel's Messiah?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62999999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.635 = 1.27 BTC [+] {2}
decimation: Part 2 has the Hallelujah chorus right?
decimation: Bingo surely the winklevii didn't keep their coins on Gox right?
BingoBoingo: decimation: Th winkelviie and Secondmarket may have Gox losses
BingoBoingo: decimation: The Messiah has 53 pieces, #44 is the Hallelujah chorus
BingoBoingo: I totally shouldn't have drank before writing this upcoming blog post.
BingoBoingo: I can't try to read a part in this god damned score without singing it to proofread my alterations.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00555001 = 0.1443 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00499999 = 0.13 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.05456666 = 0.4911 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 9 @ 0.05073333 = 0.4566 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00086499 = 15.2238 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: No. 44 Chorus | Bingo Blog
decimation: Lol Bingo. Except Gox isn't gone, it's horde resides in stronger hands?
BingoBoingo: decimation: As far as I can tell its horde is lost to Derp and Herp
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.0059349 = 0.4036 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I've seen Ghostbusters, the Keymaster always does alright. Even if herp and derp don't
BingoBoingo: Herp and Derp have to lose their coin somehow.
decimation: well, do we believe the 'we forgot to check if the transactions were actually valid' yarn?
decimation: I'm not sure which one is more fantastic
BingoBoingo: decimation: For a couple of weeks that was allowable, but only as a "most charitable reading which would still leave them insolvent"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00086314 = 16.0544 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 350 @ 0.0059565 = 2.0848 BTC [+] {17}
decimation: So apparently MP thinks the whole thing was an insider scam run mostly be Vessenes. It's sad that the early history of bitcoin occulted by such villainy.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 49 @ 0.005 = 0.245 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: decimation: He probably isn't wrong. People need to see the retard spewing from ##mtgox-statement
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.606 = 1.818 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00086563 = 7.6608 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 464 @ 0.00497455 = 2.3082 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.107 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.1071 = 0.6426 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28850 @ 0.00086314 = 24.9016 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18078 @ 0.00086291 = 15.5997 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.1173 = 0.5865 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1173 BTC [-]
ozbot: The $12 Gongkai Phone « bunnie's blog
benkay: how much does that run?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 102 @ 0.00316001 = 0.3223 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00086248 = 6.0374 BTC [-]
benkay: isn't it rather the fear of being found at customs rather than the actual searches?
dignork: asciilifeform what would be the excuse for confiscation? lack of certifications?
benkay: i actually have no idae
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00086248 = 8.8835 BTC [-]
dignork: makes sense really, free market (assuming it's free) still requires compatible systems of laws
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.004915 = 0.1966 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00499997 = 0.24 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4748 @ 0.00086278 = 4.0965 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 46 @ 0.00499997 = 0.23 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine most arm licensees practically throw away the ARM cores they paid for licenses to fab
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6501 @ 0.00086283 = 5.6093 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: What I want to know is now that MOPS based OpenRISC is very mature why can't I get a 4 ghz laptop with one of those.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8699 @ 0.00086244 = 7.5024 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: It is far from an ideal architecture, but...
BingoBoingo: longsoon looses my interest with its sponsorship.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I see no reason why chinese government should be more trustworthy than usg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I imagine don't buy CPUs, but buy understood FPGAs and force them into an acceptable image
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.0049 = 0.2695 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Seriously how many "BTC Olds" were in the gox fold
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Of late your exchange hasn't exactly been reliable either
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Every now and then t reverts to displaying stats from days earlier. Hard to describe
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, huh, doesn't seem likely to me
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, I haven't heard similar complaints so far
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: Do other people try to daytrade on web though.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I mean SPARC T1 cores are open source. Unless lisp machine I see little reason to not them.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course. Tis why national govt chips are worth skipping when alternatives exist.
BingoBoingo: OMG Luke-Jr endorsed the MPEx model "<Luke-Jr> the last 2-3 years have demonstrated that people get scammed far more often on decentralised exchanges"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: As far as I can tell Khosala lives in Ft Meade
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00086472 = 10.2037 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I kinda want an Apple II GS, i bet that can entropy without frying.
BingoBoingo: The way to appear clean though is to cage the important machines and subcribe to Cable's sports package and have a lot of CRT TV's
BingoBoingo: Introducing noise as a reciever isn't too new
BingoBoingo: So like, Luke-Jr Got really fucked by Gox, point and laugh???
BitcoinKike: copumpkin: Why would I oppose the wrong kinds of fascism?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.11019668 = 5.5098 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
dignork: asciilifeform: is there any way to grep/search in log.bitcoin-assets.com ? I mean like a month range. I can hack together some crawler, but maybe there is on already.
BitcoinKike: dignork: Try nao and ask kako's forgiveness later?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.106 = 1.06 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 92 @ 0.00316001 = 0.2907 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: OMG Luke-Jr called me a kike <Luke-Jr> BitcoinKike: lack of transparency including proof of reserves
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: We know, that is why I file down aluminum cans during downtime.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.63749393 = 3.1875 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: dignork: Accept the definition that scares you the moast?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.10500001 = 1.365 BTC [-] {4}
Luke-Jr: BingoBoingo: please do not slander me; there is a person by that name present
BingoBoingo: Everything is everything, unless it is nothing.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.63929666 = 1.9179 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.000865 = 12.975 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0059898 = 0.1198 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.0059898 = 0.1198 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: Remember, disorderlynes is a moral imperative
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00086244 = 7.5895 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 103 @ 0.00499483 = 0.5145 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.10217367 = 1.1239 BTC [-] {4}
benkay: pankkake: plz refresh assass feed. pushed to public too soon :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.1001 = 0.8008 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: no no there is a thing as too soon
benkay: one of those girls has done this before...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00490042 = 0.2695 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.05863587 = 0.3518 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.16230094 = 0.6492 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14351 @ 0.00086116 = 12.3585 BTC [-] {2}
KRS-One: if you zoom in real close on the pubes of the girls in that pic you can get a good crotch shot
KRS-One: which one would you take? right or left?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.64139124 = 5.1311 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34149 @ 0.00085914 = 29.3388 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: Remember ##mtgoc-statement is a total lolz factory ripe for pikinz
KRS-One: i would take the girl on the right, but i like blondes...the girl on the left has a fat pussy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.646 = 3.23 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.10874999 = 0.435 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00499493 = 0.1299 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.1001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 314 @ 0.00056898 = 0.1787 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.1001 = 0.3003 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00599 = 0.1378 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: I'm going to sleep soon and hope I keep logging that channel, but backup is necessary, because that is a lulz goldmine
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.1001 = 0.4004 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.05863591 = 0.2345 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.09613161 = 1.8265 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0936797 = 2.342 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.64552 = 3.2276 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00488998 = 0.1956 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.005999 = 0.5999 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 250 @ 0.00599947 = 1.4999 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.006 = 0.486 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4899 @ 0.00086464 = 4.2359 BTC [+]
hax0r42: how the hell did AM1 go up so much in 1 day?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 51 @ 0.00489997 = 0.2499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00085893 = 3.8652 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.00489998 = 0.343 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.64699 = 1.294 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.000865 = 9.9043 BTC [+] {2}
bloctoc_: looks like all those puts are going to expire
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bloctoc_: I've been looking at the price, seems good but one would have to sell bitbet to do such a thing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.006 = 0.114 BTC [-]
bloctoc_: I don't know but it's in the bitcoin-assets archives a couple of days after the transaction
BingoBoingo: bloctoc_: It was repeated several times over those days
BingoBoingo: ##mtgox-statement pissing me off beyond my vodka budget for a Thursday
bloctoc_: is there a way to verify mpex has possession of coins?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 62 @ 0.00489998 = 0.3038 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4000 @ 0.004614 = 18.456 BTC [-] {35}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.0048998 = 0.2058 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.00489981 = 0.1911 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gotta love it when the thesaurus is longer than the poem
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: the guy doesnt know they squated it themselves < clearly there's no relation between jesse and the gang.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.636 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ninjashogun: anyone interested in startups here? << ahahaha epic.
mircea_popescu: isn;t this the guy who didn't have the time to either a) get with the program or b) read the indicated article detailing the unsuccessful attempts of the last nitwit who thought he's too good to do what he's told on the grounds of well... he's special ?
mircea_popescu: diametric: the latest trend is that Mark is under a gag order << you happen to be familiar with the trials and tribulations of the public opinion during any of the large eastern european ponzi collapses ?
mircea_popescu: like the russki MMM, or romania's caritas (or later fni), or albania's rebellion of 1997 ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: gee whiz, look at all the people i want to talk to, and i have barely just woken up.
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> like the russki MMM, or romania's caritas (or later fni), or albania's rebellion of 1997 ? // we had this BMG Invest in Slovakia
mircea_popescu: generally the objects of the abject populace's fixations end up quite... jesus-ied.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo midnightmagic is an old time miner with a very naive set of strongly held notions.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.021399 = 0.214 BTC [+]
MagicalFag: just got a $a: ban on ##mtgox-chat, such fun
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8574 @ 0.00086337 = 7.4025 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lmao who the fuck bothers banning people on deadman's chat
KRS-One: Sure..Lets talk about your love life now.
KRS-One: I go to the strip club once a week. You would be suprised what you can get there being a regular.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 72 @ 0.00489899 = 0.3527 BTC [+]
KRS-One: I get out quite often when I'm not working as much too.. I like the bachelor's life.
mircea_popescu: you know that's possibly the least efficient way to buy sex, do you
KRS-One: Not trying to suprise you, I don't know much about you.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.10501 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: decimation: So apparently MP thinks the whole thing was an insider scam run mostly be Vessenes. << if by "thing" you mean "Bitcoin Foundation", then yes.
KRS-One: Its getting late here. Have a great day-
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00472009 = 0.2124 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: o look at that, Luke-Jr needs to learn to listen to mp.
mircea_popescu: because you'd still have 70% of your savings, that's why.
Luke-Jr: I didn't know you had access to MtGox's code
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of things you didn't know. but the fact that i said mtgox is going down, you knew.
mircea_popescu: next time, listen. it's not like it's coming out of my pocket if you don't, you know ?
Luke-Jr: oh, so I'm supposed to just believe everything you say but can't/won't provide evidence for?
mircea_popescu: you're supposed to listen to it. there's a fucking difference.
Luke-Jr: if I knew it, then I must have listened to you say it.
Luke-Jr: and thought you were full of crap since you couldn't substantiate it
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: did *you* steal the bitcoins?
mircea_popescu: if we had the luxury of discarding anything of reality that doesn't conveniently fit with our theoreitcal system, we wouldn't for instance be stuckl with quantum mechanics.
Luke-Jr: because right now, it sounds like you're implicitly confessing
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr no, it just sounds like you still have issues listening.
mircea_popescu: i get that you're very emotionally invested in this "master of all i survey" nonsense, but that's not how reality works.
Luke-Jr: the only way to know MtGox was going down like this, is if you had evidence, or you were behind it
Luke-Jr: and you clearly did not have evidence
Apocalyptic: having evidence is different from diclosing it
mircea_popescu: because i live in Luke-Jr world, where if Luke-Jr asks i am forced to comply ?
Luke-Jr: Apocalyptic: yes, but mircea_popescu is generally clueless too
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it is foolish to consider diddled cpus without having a picture of the actual possibilities in mind. <<< now how does this follow ?!
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: just because you're right for once in your life, does not mean you will be right ever again
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr apparently your one-bit counter is well smashed.
Apocalyptic: "Naivety multiplied by greed made the existence of such investment schemes possible in Slovakia" // like it's any different in any other ponzi
mircea_popescu: people have this amazing facility, guy goes out with girl, its their first time, it feels like the first time. kids have been fucking for a while now, it's anything but novel in any sense.
Apocalyptic: maybe, it certainly fundamentally isn't though
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 8 @ 0.04506296 = 0.3605 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: and then she gets pregnant/catches the clap/gets dumped and her mom is like lolz and she's like "o mom, just because you were right ONCE IN YOUR LYFF!!!
mircea_popescu: doesn't mean you'll ever be right ever again ever eleventy!"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.10487564 = 0.3146 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.10487564 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo : perhaps a good alternative is to buy a chinese and a usg and use them in paralel.
chetty: lol great recipe for any government
mircea_popescu: copumpkin how much did you have on gox ? if its not sikrit.
mircea_popescu: so far this is starting to feel like pirate all over again. in may "but mp! how can you irresponsibly let the pr chick say mean things about this important biznis for bitcoin, we know shit. we're twelve after all!"
mircea_popescu: then in oct "well... we're out of the game nao. was nice being part of it all blablabla"
mircea_popescu: dignork i use local logs for that purpose. log website only does daybased, and i suppose global search may be a little cpu intensive as a publicly exposed service.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell greenspan_fan i actually shot the last psych guy an email. figured he'd prolly like to know :p
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00086085 = 19.6704 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: benkay re the assass feed : trilema has a 15 minute rss delay built in for that very reason. maybe you should implement something like it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60000001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i mostly use it when i manage to typo in one of my booklet length titles.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16050 @ 0.00085872 = 13.7825 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "When using only an HD wallet design, you can regenerate the wallet (and all of the addresses) at any time using a seed which can be presented as a mnemonic string of words, without reducing the amount of entrophy like brain wallets do."
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, btw I always wondered why the polimedia servers were in the US
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00086337 = 8.2452 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15581 @ 0.00086626 = 13.4972 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: "There shouldn't be "insiders" in #Bitcoin - that's kinda the point of Bitcoin."
mircea_popescu: dude how is it that everyone takes it for granted they personally know what "the point of Bitcoin" is
mircea_popescu: "i shouldn't still be a virgin, kinda the point of bitcoin!!1"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 217 @ 0.0055 = 1.1935 BTC
chetty: <mircea_popescu> "i shouldn't still be a virgin, kinda the point of bitcoin!! <<<< it isn't?????
mircea_popescu: i guess it has resolved a lot of financial and mental hymens
ozbot: Reggie Middleton's UltraCoin - Bitcoin 2.0, aka Ultra Coin: Bitcoin's Derivative Layer That Allows T
ozbot: Bitblu - crypto investment management
benkay`: "Crypto-currency investment is hard..."
mircea_popescu: i don't mean the newest scamcoin, i get it, Reggie Middleton is a random noob who figures that he's special and doesn't need to first spend his six months reading here.
ozbot: Bitblu is recruiting our co-founder CTO
benkay`: bitcointalk *has* a search bar, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: "Great job on the Bitblu website. It looks awesome, even in beta!! Can't wait to try it out "
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 71 @ 0.00575 = 0.4083 BTC [+]
benkay`: wow dealco is still around?
mircea_popescu: scams don't go away anymore, they just age and reemerge, goat style.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02199998 = 0.132 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5004 @ 0.00086541 = 4.3305 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.10487562 = 0.3146 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16277 @ 0.00085984 = 13.9956 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: what is everyone's favourite bitcoin charting service these days ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
benkay`: hey everyone did you know that real companies are built on professionally curated data feeds?
benkay`: kinda hard to believe, but true.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00487998 = 0.976 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell duffer1 hey, you have a compatriot here : anddam
anddam: will keep that in mind
anddam: actually there are a few on btctalk but the tone of threads is childish more often than not
benkay`: anddam you troll for money?
anddam: benkay`: troll as in fishing?
mircea_popescu: "Load failed, retry after 5 seconds. Probably Reason BitcoinWisdom is temporary down Domain is not bitcoinwisdom.com Network issue"
ozbot: Bitcoin Market Price (USD)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00086718 = 12.1405 BTC [+]
davout: does anyone know about some spreadhseet software that uses decimals instead of floats?
FabianB: btcoincharts is probably the only one that works without js
ozbot: bitcoinity.org/markets
mircea_popescu: davout wasn't open office settable to use fixed point ?
benkay`: if you look sideways at the TATINVESTMENTS logo you can see a WTF
davout: i'm mildly satisfied with my accounting delta being -0,000000000000206057393370429
davout: mircea_popescu: thanks! i'll have a look
anddam: davout: I don't but is rounding error with floats that important?
davout: anddam: accounting is right or it isn't, it can't be sort-of right
benkay`: i will come harp at you over rounding errors of less than a satoshi anddam
anddam: davout: when you use floating point arithmetic it can
davout: anddam: "does anyone know about some spreadhseet software that uses decimals instead of floats?" <<< hence the question :D
mircea_popescu: i suppose the concept here is that math will have to suit the task, not the othjer way around
davout: anddam: what's to tell me it doesn't compound in weird ways ?
anddam: well, math would be exact, but when you're using a computer you're using an approximation
davout: anddam: except when you're using decimals
anddam: math is ideal, at least the one that was taught to me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00086811 = 10.6778 BTC [+]
davout: anyway i'll look into OO
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.09837502 = 3.935 BTC [-] {8}
benkay`: anddam: bitcoin is also ideal, and calls for ideal accounting.
ozbot: This is the story of your loss.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1291 @ 0.00459637 = 5.9339 BTC [-] {25}
mircea_popescu: so i'm hammering out the mpoe announcement for this month.
mircea_popescu: word of warning to the news people following : it's gonna be pretty massive.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 400 @ 0.00450006 = 1.8 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 250 @ 0.00450006 = 1.125 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 25 @ 0.0390015 = 0.975 BTC [-] {3}
HeySteve2: mircea_popescu, please private me regarding the news if I don't respond here
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.095 = 0.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 238 @ 0.00469412 = 1.1172 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 232 @ 0.0047 = 1.0904 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 33 @ 0.09084863 = 2.998 BTC [-] {5}
davout: mircea_popescu: delicious EXERCISE?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00440003 = 0.286 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.00086828 = 10.8535 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26450 @ 0.00086706 = 22.9337 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.00420003 = 0.84 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 155 @ 0.00418413 = 0.6485 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6359998 = 1.272 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.00411001 = 0.2178 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 474 @ 0.00410377 = 1.9452 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 388 @ 0.00413057 = 1.6027 BTC [+] {7}
wao-ender: and ddos was yday on their twitter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00414999 = 0.1245 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 59 @ 0.00415 = 0.2449 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7690 @ 0.00086438 = 6.6471 BTC [-]
ozbot: Twitter / WSJ: Breaking: Mt. Gox has filed ...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.08999997 = 0.9 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.08999998 = 0.45 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 90 @ 0.0055 = 0.495 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09497999 = 0.19 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00086813 = 3.3857 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: hum that could set a precedent about btc liabilities during liquidations
dexX7: what's the context? was there any statement about a potential fiat bailout?
jurov: Apocalyptic: there isn't any other way
jurov: where would they get bitcoins to resolve liabilities otherwise?
Apocalyptic: they wouldn't need to get them, just price them in the liability sheets
jurov: that has potential to create a mess
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic pretty much already established precedent.
Apocalyptic: mircea, wasn't aware, what case are you referring to ?
jurov: if i had usd-only position at time of bankruptcy, why should i share my claim with people who had btc-only positions?
jurov: and even if, what is the fair btc price here?
wbaw: kakobrekla, I'm John Kenney
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00468997 = 0.1172 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: o look, now you are on two of my screens :)
wbaw: so is the bet closed or what?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.63599999 = 5.724 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: mods close the bets when it needs to be, you can leave them a message on bitbet comments
wbaw: their lawyer just made an announcement
wbaw: that seems to satisfy the bet?
jurov: yes, put the link into bitbet comment
jurov: and let them do their job
Apocalyptic: <jurov> and even if, what is the fair btc price here? // hard to find a definitive answer here, but you can still can pick a reasonable one
jurov: that's anything betwen 100 and 500
Apocalyptic: <jurov> if i had usd-only position at time of bankruptcy // that's kinda irrelevant
jurov: Apocalyptic: why irrelevant? bankruptcy law applies only to fiat, it says nothing about BTC. Attempts to shoehorn BTC in there can be disastrous.
jurov: Listing BTC that are left on the papers and trying to pay them out would be Karpeles goodwill attempt, nothing more.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.09064826 = 2.6288 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.052 = 0.104 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00605 = 0.121 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00086813 = 6.5978 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.09 = 0.9 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 297 @ 0.00430679 = 1.2791 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23710 @ 0.00086841 = 20.59 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00606001 = 0.1576 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.00608813 = 0.1583 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0529 = 0.2116 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1054 @ 0.00018498 = 0.195 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic for instance the bitcoinica executors, couldn't care less about the btc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6175 @ 0.00018631 = 1.1505 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1557 @ 0.00018902 = 0.2943 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5807 @ 0.00019199 = 1.1149 BTC [+] {4}
wbaw: TOKYO—A lawyer for Mt. Gox announced at a news conference at the Tokyo District Court that the embattled bitcoin exchange was filing for bankruptcy protection and that Mt. Gox had outstanding debt of about ¥6.5 billion ($63.6 million).
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00086393 = 13.3909 BTC [-] {2}
wbaw: ... Yes prevails if there is an official announcement of the end of operations
wbaw: bet is still open, what a joke
wbaw: glad i didn't put more on it
jurov: wbaw why such haste?
wbaw: jurov, could you bet on a football match after the result is known?
mircea_popescu: o hey, us attorney general just jumped out of a window.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 986 @ 0.00444372 = 4.3815 BTC [+] {3}
wbaw: bookmakers should be fast
mircea_popescu: this is now the revolving window of finance and government.
mircea_popescu: wbaw you know they'll refund bets that are late anyway
wbaw: and not let people bet after the outcome is known
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 284 @ 0.00428984 = 1.2183 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00404101 / 0.00509159 / 0.00599998 (47908 shares, 243.92785559 BTC), 7D: 0.00278000 / 0.0046028 / 0.00600000 (417443 shares, 1921.40502491 BTC), 30D: 0.00261000 / 0.00422003 / 0.00600000 (543824 shares, 2294.95111460 BTC)
wbaw: it's an hour since the announcement
wbaw: that's expecting normal service
wbaw: mt.gox closed days ago
wbaw: at least its a warning not to use the site again & stick with reputable bookmakers
mircea_popescu: there are very many reputable bookmakers in btc outside of bitbet.
wbaw: i'll ask william hill next time
wbaw: and he has a shop around the corner from me
wbaw: so stop messing about
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 105 @ 0.004222 = 0.4433 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00609998 = 0.305 BTC [+]
wbaw: how official does it need to be if their company lawyer announcing it outside a court isn't enough?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 98 @ 0.00609999 = 0.5978 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: they're only claiming 64m in liabilities?
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 not really in their interest to include everything.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.635 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.053 = 0.212 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: wbaw hey, how does irl betting work ? i've never done it
Duffer1: i know, i'm just shocked at the gall
mircea_popescu: so you go to the shop around the corner and what happens ?
wbaw: mircea_popescu, i walk into a shop, place a bet, get fixed odds & a betting receipt
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 that's basically why people need lawyers for. average joe can't possibly summon all the needed gall for even trivial legal proceedings
wbaw: then when it wins i claim my payout in cash
wbaw: when the result is known
wbaw: then i get my payout a few minutes later
wbaw: but, it's walking distance anyway
wbaw: then i go to a shop with more staff
wbaw: there are 5 or 6 within a short walk, but i think william hill is the only one that takes random bets like this
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00609999 = 3.05 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: and to take this full seinfeld, what if you accidentally get triple-action moisturizer with uva on your ticket and now it's illegible ?
wbaw: mircea_popescu, they keep a record of all the bets
wbaw: you've never visited a real bookmaker?
wbaw: you need the details of the bet
mircea_popescu: generally all those i've seen are dingy affairs in the poor parts of town,
wbaw: they're huge companies here in the uk
mircea_popescu: huge companies they are everywhere, but still, much in the way mcdonalds is a huge company :
mircea_popescu: a huge company made out of a lot of small, smelly, dingy little outifits.
wbaw: when i pay for a burger at mcdonalds they usually give me one
mircea_popescu: yeah but once you'll graduate to restaurants you'll maybe notice you order and then wait
wbaw: same when i pay for a bet at a bookmaker
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10087 @ 0.00086358 = 8.7109 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: anyway, don't sweat it, i'm sure you'll have it by tomorrow, whatever it is.
wbaw: you really shouldn't still be accepting bets, it's just to take fees for nothing or skew the odds
mircea_popescu: someone betting after the event is known seems something.
wbaw: you take a 1% fee from returned bets, says on your site
mircea_popescu: meanwhile : A talking parrot has helped Indian police crack an intriguing murder mystery and led the cops to arrest the killer.
wbaw: so, what is an official announcement?
wbaw: for the context of that bet?
mircea_popescu: dood, i'm sure it's good enough, a mod needs to get to it.
wbaw: because it seems pretty official
chetty: Seriously whats the rush? Not like you can get interest on BTC
wbaw: should have faster service instead of acting like you're not trying to compete with huge companies with customer support teams
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i actually am not competing with huge companies for the favours of you.
chetty: hmm what huge company with lots of support team takes btc bets? I might want to check that out
cazalla: didn't you know bitbet was a scam wbaw?
wbaw: i didn't realise before, cazalla
ozbot: Strategic superiority, a saga pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
cazalla: wrong links, slow payouts, what's happening mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: Up until recently it was practically impossible to become embroiled into any sort of dealing with the subgroup, their ownership being strictly assumed and their lives strictly subsumed by the corporations competent at dealing with the human cattle : fastfood providers, supermarkets, the government. Both as employers and providers these specialised bureaucracies have the necessary tools, including cattle prods (or whate
mircea_popescu: ver theyre called now, non-lethal something or the other) to correctly handle them. They have the chemicals, theyve done the research, know the behavioural patterns, have the walls all built to obstruct vision, living arrangements all thought through and everything.
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin suddenly opened the gate. It is a poisonous offering. You are grossly unequipped to interact straight with the refuse of Western society. Accepting investors with fortunes under a million dollars or whatever the limit was placed for US citizens may make sense. Accepting investors with fortunes under any arbitrary value and simultaneously wits under any arbitrary threshold is not a sound business plan but a stra
wbaw: i'm not saying it's a scam, just you should act a bit faster to protect your customers
wbaw: like your competitors do
mircea_popescu: but you're in no way at risk. if people bet after the fact hey just get charged a small fine
mircea_popescu: and while it'd be ideal to move faster, it's also ideal not to make mistakes, and not to cost an infinity.
wbaw: how do people know it's after the fact if the bet is still open?
mircea_popescu: these are the three ends of the triangle : how much it costs, how secure it is, how fast it goes.
cazalla: ask snackman, he knows the answer to that one wbaw
mircea_popescu: every business will make a choice as you can't have all three.
wbaw: you could close betting while you reach a decision
cazalla: wbaw, why not use it to your advantage and bet on some props where the outcome is already known?
wbaw: cazalla, because i'd be paying 1% for nothing
Apocalyptic: <ATH5> "There was a weakness in the system, and the bitcoins disappeared" << Karpeles live
wbaw: and that's what it's about, taking those 1%s & fuck repeat custom
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00086863 = 3.7351 BTC [+]
Apocalyptic: "<maz0> Teikoku Data Bank, Japans largest and most respected credit-rating agency, in July of last year reviewed the company and gave it a D4, the worst possible rating a company can receive on their scale. One of the reasons for the low rating was the lack of qualified accounting staff at the company." mircea is there any truth to that N
wbaw: how can you run any business without looking at your competition?
wbaw: and how they do business
mircea_popescu: wbaw how can your williams whoever do business without looking at bitbet.
wbaw: mircea_popescu, they were here first
wbaw: and they're the big name, not the new competitor
wbaw: so it's all different because of the currency?
mircea_popescu: wbaw in a word, yes. especially because bitcoin isn't a currency in this sense.
MisterE: almost got back in to ride is back to 570 but we're going under 550
wbaw: mircea_popescu, this is why you'll never be big like they are
wbaw: it's no different, it's a betting site
MisterE: lol Apocalyptic that's almost as bad as letting the 2 companies with the worst customer satisfaction numbers in the US merge :D
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, you just linked me an article from today
mircea_popescu: well guess what... i'm not that far off. now what do we do.
ozbot: William Hill plans cost cuts to offset new tax regime
wbaw: Revenue rose 18 percent to 1.49 billion pounds of which net retail revenue accounted for 907 million pounds, up 10 percent, and online revenue rose 12 percent to 446 million pounds.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic yeah it's some japanese corp research firm
Apocalyptic: I thought you were referencing the credit-rating claim
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wbaw: they're not even the biggest
mircea_popescu: wbaw thjat's besides the point. i being already comparably big, your argument fails
mircea_popescu: and anyway, i'd love to keep chattin' but got some stuff to do right nao
cazalla: wbaw: you should be more given the outcome is known, that will fix your problems
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10771 @ 0.00086393 = 9.3054 BTC [-]
wbaw: cazalla, according to mircea_popescu here that'd mean i just get taxed 1%
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 879 @ 0.00086863 = 0.7635 BTC [+]
wbaw: and i can't put bets on even those his website says that i can
wbaw: so i'd be getting taxed for their mistake if i bet now, or the betting is corrupt
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0061 = 0.1159 BTC [+]
cazalla: so what are you worried about then
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.00448999 = 0.1437 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00457998 = 0.1649 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: so a hdd in a raid array failed and has been hotswapped.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00086863 = 3.9957 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.635 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.635 = 1.27 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63599 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63599 BTC [+]
jurov: i'd be pretty asstight if company owner was personally involved in raid hdd replacements :D
wbaw: i'm not worried about anything cazalla, just explaining why it's my first & will be my only bet on the site
wbaw: other gamblers will just go elsewhere quietly
wbaw: it has finally been closed, but speed is important
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 85 @ 0.00437102 = 0.3715 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.635 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.1141981 = 2.284 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.114899 = 0.3447 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: <mircea_popescu> uh what happened to this thing /// there's a frenzy over AM solving more blocks than usual (sell Neo! Buy AM!) and the Neo bid book didnt fill much behind the rally
ThickAsThieves: wbaw, how could you possibly expect the diversity of bets at BitBet and immediate resolution on all of them?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.00086843 = 1.2158 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.117 = 0.234 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.11999 BTC [+]
wbaw: not immediate resolution, but closing should be fast
wbaw: responses from customer support shouldn't be so rude & arrogant either
ThickAsThieves: well i just woke up and everything was the way it should be!
wbaw: i think they're in romania though, so no excuse, was the middle of a working day
wbaw: customers are right
wbaw: this is why you lack many customers
Duffer1: TaT i hear AM added 600th recently, might have something to do with it :P
ThickAsThieves: if you want civil interactions with people, try being a human being
wbaw: other bookmakers don't call me a bitch for giving them money
wbaw: no other bookmaker that has lasted has done that
wbaw: every business has to serve it's customers or it fails
wbaw: when i became a customer & paid them money
wbaw: then again when i remembered never to use it again & recommend against it
ThickAsThieves: dont enter into arrangements with people then complain when they execute them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0538 = 0.2152 BTC [+] {2}
wbaw: i was complaining about them not executing them
wbaw: or being too slow to execute them because they were too busy abusing customers
ThickAsThieves: does bitbet say it will solve all bets in under X amount of time?
wbaw: every bookmaker closes bets when the event is over
wbaw: so i will just use those instead
wbaw: now please stop arguing with former customers
Duffer1: afaik MP is an owner and not actively involved, but as an owner I'm sure he's more annoyed with delayed bet closing than you
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1645 @ 0.00434981 = 7.1554 BTC [-] {6}
wbaw: i hope he is, he should be
wbaw: doesn't matter to me i can just go elsewhere
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.00019 = 0.95 BTC [-]
wbaw: search 'gambling' on google
wbaw: there are quite a few
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1087 @ 0.00018899 = 0.2054 BTC [-] {2}
Duffer1: ah i'm not a gambler, i haven't kept up with the offerings in the space
ThickAsThieves: the best part about these bitbet naysaying interlopers is that it's always for like $50 bets
wbaw: they have lots of big competitors but they think they're different because it's magical internet money so customer service doesn't count
ThickAsThieves: and they demand to be customer that is always right and able to take all business away
wbaw: ThickAsThieves, why risk a big bet on your first go with some shady site?
wbaw: they know not to come back after that
Duffer1: I am certain that those involved with Bitbet regard Bitcoin as substantially more valuable than fiat
wbaw: i'm used to better service, rather than being insulted by staff
wbaw: we will see who's still here in 10 years
Duffer1: perhaps you haven't been around long wbaw but if i was a gambler Bitbet would be the only site I'd trust to do what they say, no more no less
wbaw: wtf are you talking about?
Duffer1: everyone else will just tell you what you want to hear right up until they run with your $$
wbaw: you think bitbet are more reliable than betfair?
wbaw: william hills have been around ~50 years
wbaw: and they always pay out
wbaw: does that even matter?
jurov: one day the miscalculate the rates on popular bet and go out of business
jurov: and unlike fiat nobody, is loaning btcs
Duffer1: i see, so when i said earlier "only site" i was refering to only bitcoin betting site
wbaw: yes, they catch scammers on betfair
jurov: nothing like that can happen on bitbet
wbaw: that's what they do
wbaw: it's betting exchange
wbaw: betfair allows anybody to bet
wbaw: bitbet is just in denial
Duffer1: denial about what? i'm just curious, i'm not trying to poke you
wbaw: i lost an interesting looking betting site i wanted to give my custom
wbaw: saying they don't host scammers, denying that bet fixing could be a problem...
wbaw: no, i got trolled by bitbet
wbaw: the customer service response i got to my email yesterday
Duffer1: i was under the impression that bets are moderated by the exchange
Duffer1: I don't see how fixing could occur without collusion by employees
wbaw: because you just said you have no experience gambling
wbaw: it cost money from my bet, people were betting after mtgox closed
ThickAsThieves: do you know what happens when people bbet after the fact on bitbet?
Duffer1: that does not mean those late bets will be honored
wbaw: that's breaking their own terms then
Duffer1: unless they changed it very recently, it's 100%
ThickAsThieves: if your bet confirms after the event took place they lose all money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25295 @ 0.0008685 = 21.9687 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: ThickAsThieves: no
jurov: it's first closed, then they return bets minus 1%
jurov: then after it's resolved, they eat new bets
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00450488 = 0.1577 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63 = 1.26 BTC [-]
jurov: adn even if someone bets while it's still open, but the result happened
wbaw: What if I bet after the bet has been satisfied, but before it is actually closed?
wbaw: Your bet will be refunded, minus BitBet's 1% fee.
jurov: they return -1% too
Duffer1: if the bets are returned then the payout would be according to resolved weight
wbaw: so they screwed somebody
wbaw: either those that bet while the bet was still open, but in fact closed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16867 @ 0.0008694 = 14.6642 BTC [+] {2}
wbaw: or the people who bet before
jurov: wbaw after the result happens, bet is closed implicitly without them having to announce
jurov: it's best defense from scammers
jurov: good idea, don't you think?
wbaw: so why the 1% fee & leaving bets open so late?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3983 @ 0.00016694 = 0.6649 BTC [-] {16}
wbaw: surely the bet still being open is there mistake, so no fee
wbaw: because they're advertising that you can, ThickAsThieves
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [-]
wbaw: they can close the bet on their site
jurov: wbaw btc payments can be even hours late, and returning them is overhead for bitbet
wbaw: they can not be so rude to customers too
Duffer1: that's also a feature, not a but :P
ThickAsThieves: also, what if the evidence of the bet resolution is debunked? then you complain they closed it too fast?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.09349999 = 0.374 BTC [+]
deadweasel: handle your business by doing due diligence before you place money somewhere. that's all there is to it.
deadweasel: indeed. bitbet is an unending font of entertainment
deadweasel: for this, I do love it. also, winning.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00086954 = 16.3039 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 48 @ 0.00450655 = 0.2163 BTC [+] {4}
ThickAsThieves: "I love the sense of entitlement in your generation," she wrote, then continued. "You're welcome for your humility lesson for the year. Don't ever reach out to senior practitioners again and assume their carefully curated list of connections is available to you, just because you want to build your network."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 239 @ 0.00450499 = 1.0767 BTC [-] {2}
libbe: wheres that from thick
ThickAsThieves: and it turns into ""The note I sent to Diana was rude, unwelcoming, unprofessional and wrong ...," she said in her e-mail. "Diana and her generation are the future of this city. I wish her all the best in landing a job in this great town.""
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00086605 = 16.7148 BTC [-] {2}
ozbot: Nasty LinkedIn rejection goes viral - CNN.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00086351 = 3.454 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09349999 = 0.187 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: i guess that's what the media does, it breaks you if you give it weight
ThickAsThieves: some gems from CNN's home page today: She blew off salute to take THIS selfie - World's best prison food? - Men: Your sperm clock is ticking - 'President finally said something' - Kutcher and Kunis engaged? etc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.606 = 1.212 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: "Mt.Gox learned Monday that 1.75 million bitcoins held by the company and its customers had disappeared"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 760 @ 0.00459938 = 3.4955 BTC [+] {5}
Duffer1: 1.75m bitcoins gone, only claims 65m in liabilities in bankruptcy app
Duffer1: lol they're trying to claim $37 per bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00086346 = 7.9438 BTC [-]
Duffer1: ^ where i saw the 65m figure, dunno what their source is
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20565 @ 0.00086367 = 17.7614 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: catching up on the day's logs… twitter is just jammed with gox brain damage. can't take it
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu to Luke-Jr: you're supposed to listen to it. there's a fucking difference. << priceless
ThickAsThieves: Jon Stewart having a laugh over Mt Gox starting as a card exchange
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00086367 = 8.3344 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.09349999 = 0.561 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.0046109 = 0.2536 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0935 = 0.4675 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.63160684 = 17.685 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00485999 = 0.3305 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.63633266 = 1.909 BTC [+] {2}
bitcoinpete: Looks like my little blog post took a notch out of NeoBee, eh ThickAsThieves
bitcoinpete: I wonder what I could've done to something like CFIG or 7C
ThickAsThieves: you could actually do plenty damage to CFIG if you tried
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: Correction, only people who matter read your blog
bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: but I didn't even post it on reddit!
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: You posted to this chan though
ozbot: Mapping Bitcoin Addresses to IPs: Hard, but possible | Bitcoin Security
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: Reddit has a poor ratio of eyes to eyes that matter
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: Time to start sending coins to MPEx from SBUx
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.11705 = 0.2341 BTC [-] {2}
bitcoinpete: ThickAsThieves: Did you read that in the almanac?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00086367 = 5.0525 BTC [+]
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 135.0, vol: 0.00000000 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 558.69, vol: 18248.76543402 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 541.96, vol: 12559.69095 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 557.0, vol: 12295.19418405 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 582.1, vol: 65.15586648 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 554.88, vol: 7185.97300000 | Volume-weighted last average: 553.591064627
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12442 @ 0.00086762 = 10.7949 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: hmm so does option bot problem fix itself now that gox volume is 0?
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: I'm guessing that is going to be in the MPEx announcement
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15163 @ 0.00086963 = 13.1862 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: "A lot of them tend to be in their 20s and 30s, they tend to be hip New Yorkers definitely with an eye for aesthetic detail – they may work in the visual arts or performing arts."
jurov: is pic of mr. gay-debauchery in there somewhere, too?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61000001 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: too bad the register can't spell "transpLant"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.0935 = 0.561 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: And converting to Orthodox Judaism would be far more cost-effective.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62459 @ 0.00086446 = 53.9933 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.006 = 0.222 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00086425 = 11.3217 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6999 @ 0.00086656 = 6.0651 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0543 = 0.543 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.60066666 = 1.802 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: BingoBoingo: I don't get the boogaloo reference
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.55879266 = 14.5286 BTC [-] {14}
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: electric boogaloo
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: electric boogaloo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.16230094 = 0.4869 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09499898 = 0.19 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.536575 = 2.1463 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16833 @ 0.00086734 = 14.5999 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0048 = 0.48 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: Turneja - Kukavica (Arkan - Mine Field Scene) + Eng Subtitles - YouTube
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00485598 = 0.2768 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.0544 = 0.544 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.05201753 = 0.4161 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00564526 = 1.1291 BTC [-] {10}
chetty: A man who was traveling through Manchester, New Hampshire was stopped and harassed by the TSA after he opted out of going through a body scanner. The official reason for further interrogation, according to the screeners, was We saw Bitcoin in your bag and need to check.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00556 = 1.112 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 99 @ 0.00485548 = 0.4807 BTC [-] {3}
ozbot: » TSA Detains Libertarian Blogger After ‘Seeing Bitcoin’ In His Bag Alex Jones' Infowars: Ther
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00019129 = 0.3826 BTC [+] {10}
benkay`: ugh asciilifeform you gotta put this shit into some fiction
benkay`: publish it somewhere and everything
benkay`: 1/3 of the things you write in -assets gives me the willies
chetty: I figure its true, to strange to be fiction
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 37 @ 0.00597001 = 0.2209 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 57 @ 0.00598666 = 0.3412 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 75 @ 0.006 = 0.45 BTC [+]
chetty: asciilifeform: ouchy, I guess next stop is full up mind reading
jurov: researchers already did read passwords from brain. one has to control self to not think about them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 98 @ 0.00485598 = 0.4759 BTC [+]
benkay: gotta get out of the states
BingoBoingo: Oh brain steganography is going to be a thing soon
chetty: multiplication tables making a come back
wao-ender: in my honest, I dont remember some password, only just mechanics of keypresses
chetty: true, without keyboard passwords are a mystery
wao-ender: well, rather find function how to re:create password instead of remember exact value of pw
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 26 @ 0.05182695 = 1.3475 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 9 @ 0.1169999 = 1.053 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.1169999 = 0.351 BTC [-]
benkay: if they have the smarts to hang on for a year or two, they may make it back
benkay: at least their smart enough to actually go long
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.095 = 0.19 BTC [+]
benkay: man, the derp is just as strong on hacker news as bitcointalk.org
Duffer1: letstalkbitcoin.com/the-ghost-in-the-machine-at-mtgox/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.00464018 = 0.3805 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 258 @ 0.0008796 = 0.2269 BTC [+]
ozbot: Chinese New Year, Litecoin to Blame for AMD GPU Shortage, Price Hikes | Digital Trends
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 228 @ 0.0008798 = 0.2006 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00018999 = 0.19 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.1169999 = 0.819 BTC [-]
Jere_Jones_: My wife told me that she couldn't get a birthday cake with a bitcoin on it because it would have been copyright infringement and we needed to get written permission from Bitcoin.
Jere_Jones_: She said that several bakeries told her that same story.
anddam: Jere_Jones_: also the cake would be malleable
Jere_Jones_: She laughed. I laughed. I had balloons on my cake instead.
ThickAsThieves: it's not 100% absurd to be worried about the bitcoin logo
TomServo: I could swear I've seen one or two Mickey Mouse cakes... but I could be imagining that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 495 @ 0.00517539 = 2.5618 BTC [-] {25}
ThickAsThieves: the cake place likely got sensitive because of doing too many mickey mouse cakes once
Jere_Jones: If you don't know what a bitcoin is, yeah, I understand the confusion. My wife and I do, though. Hence the hilarity.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.1169999 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 32 @ 0.02175686 = 0.6962 BTC [-] {4}
Asa9: my wife has some cake pans of popular kids mascots from the late 90s but no disney ones.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 4672 @ 0.00009682 = 0.4523 BTC [-] {9}
benkay: that feel when a project manager cancels the meeting you scheduled to plan out the next 2 months of work
benkay: maybe i just need bacon.
chetty: asciilifeform: Its a toss up, '84 or Brave New World - but its pretty much upon us
Asa9: oh what the hell - why not both?!?
drifton: Anyone have an opinion on the viability of profiting off of exchanging btc for ltc and vis-a-vi? Ive only been going straight btc investment as of late and ltc has me curious. Sorry for the vague question, or if it's considered off topic.
benkay: you're talking about becoming a professional trader by trading your own book. just don't.
chetty: off topic? is that possible here?
ThickAsThieves: LTC simply does not function in reaction to BTC in any reliable way
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 170 @ 0.00465002 = 0.7905 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00464201 = 0.4642 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX:S.MG] 1D: 0.000149 / 0.00014955 / 0.000154 (180 shares, 0.03 BTC), 7D: 0.000138 / 0.00013973 / 0.000154 (1200 shares, 0.17 BTC), 30D: 0.00010001 / 0.00011631 / 0.000154 (5050 shares, 0.59 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SMG] 1D: 0.00009501 / 9.705E-5 / 0.00010280 (4859 shares, 0.47159003 BTC), 7D: 0.00009501 / 9.954E-5 / 0.00013000 (7926 shares, 0.78898943 BTC), 30D: 0.00009501 / 0.0001088 / 0.00013850 (16446 shares, 1.78939064 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0046 = 0.46 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1960 @ 0.00018999 = 0.3724 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 73 @ 0.0046 = 0.3358 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.095 = 0.76 BTC [+]
anddam: benkay: the bacon concept is interesting
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 225 @ 0.0044291 = 0.9965 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.58998899 = 1.18 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00440002 = 0.132 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.117 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] [PAID] 7.50000000 BTC to 40`000 shares, 18750 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 34 @ 0.05100001 = 1.734 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 27 @ 0.10577669 = 2.856 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] [PAID] 5.00000000 BTC to 50`000 shares, 10000 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 72 @ 0.00597 = 0.4298 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 69.10503292 BTC to 3`122 shares, 2213486 satoshi per share
benkay: get yer dealco divs and get out day apparently
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.05385713 = 0.377 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.05736678 BTC to 3`122 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.09550288 = 0.6685 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.09550006 = 0.6685 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.09199994 = 0.92 BTC [-]
benkay: ;;later tell anddam bacon ipo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 23 @ 0.08043478 = 1.85 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.055 = 0.11 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 34 @ 0.13311598 = 4.5259 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00086308 = 5.8689 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: ThickAsThieves: yeah they used to for the not real journalist shit
Diablo-D3: they still have it for some legacy areas
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0555 = 0.111 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
ozbot: Cyprus One Year After Bank Bail-In -- the Canary That Lived - MoneyBeat - WSJ
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05416667 = 0.1625 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08181 = 0.2454 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 6 @ 0.13311598 = 0.7987 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0559994 = 0.28 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08130283 = 0.2439 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.13311598 = 0.6656 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.05595783 = 0.6715 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0800171 = 0.8002 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.13311598 = 3.9935 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0575 = 0.115 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.055 = 0.11 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.05398213 = 1.5115 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.006 = 0.15 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 12 @ 0.13311598 = 1.5974 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.054 = 0.108 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 388 @ 0.00454236 = 1.7624 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 165 @ 0.00453334 = 0.748 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.054 = 0.324 BTC [+]
TomServo: BingoBoingo: was not kidding about ##mtgox-statement
ozbot: A Discussion on How to Salvage MtGox Customer Account Holdings - Imgur
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 125 @ 0.00360365 = 0.4505 BTC [-] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 45 @ 0.07801111 = 3.5105 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13110 @ 0.00086445 = 11.3329 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.13311598 = 0.6656 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00086759 = 10.1074 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 13 @ 0.13311598 = 1.7305 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 55 @ 0.00600001 = 0.33 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 45 @ 0.00600001 = 0.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.081 = 0.243 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.053 = 0.106 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 143 @ 0.00478783 = 0.6847 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 377 @ 0.0048762 = 1.8383 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 77 @ 0.13311598 = 10.2499 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0815 = 0.326 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13221 @ 0.00086807 = 11.4768 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0525 = 0.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.08225 = 0.1645 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 26 @ 0.00474995 = 0.1235 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.0515 = 0.103 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.08275 = 0.331 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.085 = 0.17 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0835 = 0.334 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.051 = 0.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.00474997 = 0.2565 BTC [+]
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4890464455.62 based on data since last change | 4092738869.01 based on data for last three days
gribble: Current Blocks: 288335 | Current Difficulty: 3.81572379881463E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 290303 | Next Difficulty In: 1968 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 12 hours, 34 minutes, and 39 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4890464455.62 | Estimated Percent Change: 28.1661
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12647 @ 0.00086819 = 10.98 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.09999999 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.051 = 0.102 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00483117 = 1.4494 BTC [+] {5}
ozbot: evoorhees on centralization - The Bitcoin Phenomenon on Vimeo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00488999 = 0.4401 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30500 @ 0.0008694 = 26.5167 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 22 @ 0.13311598 = 2.9286 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.09999999 = 1.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.1 = 1.7 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0823125 = 0.6585 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 16 @ 0.08120312 = 1.2992 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11723 @ 0.00087012 = 10.2004 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0805 = 0.161 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.051375 = 0.1028 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 22 @ 0.00488995 = 0.1076 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.052 = 0.104 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.00548999 = 0.4666 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.05325 = 0.426 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.05475 = 0.219 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.05625 = 0.45 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.05828571 = 0.408 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.09999997 = 0.4 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.05942857 = 0.416 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.11900092 = 0.595 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0835 = 0.835 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.08575 = 0.343 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.08683332 = 0.521 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08733333 = 0.262 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.1 = 1.1 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.088 = 0.176 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10637 @ 0.00087026 = 9.257 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.1 = 3.9 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.1 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 78 @ 0.0046416 = 0.362 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08999999 = 0.27 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 66 @ 0.0055 = 0.363 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.05025756 = 0.1508 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.00488993 = 0.1565 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 30 @ 0.13311598 = 3.9935 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.082 = 0.41 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00086638 = 16.2013 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SMG] 2070 @ 0.000095 = 0.1967 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 810 @ 0.000191 = 0.1547 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.08395 = 0.4198 BTC [+]
nubbins`: couldn't connect via chat.freenode.net
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Pretty much Freenode seems constantly under some level of DDoS now
nubbins`: poor admins must be sick of it by now
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.02139899 = 0.1498 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.0047101 = 0.212 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36100 @ 0.00086506 = 31.2287 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0827 = 0.1654 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.00483971 = 0.121 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.11585504 = 5.7928 BTC [+] {16}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.1175 = 2.4675 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.0827 = 0.3308 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: at some point we will make #freenode on irc.bitcoin-assets.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.0827 = 0.1654 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 642 @ 0.00019618 = 0.1259 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0834 = 0.417 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00087019 = 20.754 BTC [+] {2}
omen1855: before my days, but history repeats itself very quickly
Bugpowder: probably been repeating itself for 2 years without people knowing about it.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.13311598 = 0.3993 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: well, it was more of a joke and id rather not, but if it comes to it, i would.
mircea_popescu: i'd much rather add servers to freenode's pool than split the effort.
mircea_popescu: then again, that'd require them extracting head from bunghole, which may prove more difficult.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not rly any serious btc hoster as of yet
kakobrekla: well it depends on the size i guess, we have a small alter irc network in slovenia with like 200 people and 3 or so servers, works just fine for years
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla and then agency X wants to send 100gbit floods because why not.
jurov: asciilifeform: what about SDF?
ozbot: SDF Public Access UNIX System - Free Shell Account and Shell Access
jurov: no, iirc they offer full paid package
kakobrekla: im not saying it cant happen but small fishes dont stand out
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yeah but once we move assets there it becomes huge fish
jurov: they don't even take linux seriously. don't ask them about btc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00482998 = 2.415 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla keeps being rude and arrogant to customer support ppls
jurov: he's actually lucky kako did not start with slander
Jere_Jones: I'd just like to reiterate that I appreciate the advice -assets gave me about trying to buy goxbtc. Thanks folks.
assbot: Last 65536 lines bashed and pending review. (error)
jurov: usagi is not positive nor integer
jurov: mircea_popescu: it is already known what happens to mpoe in a hour and half?
jurov: is coinbr likely to survive it? :DDD
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just the regularly scheduled mpoe statement
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 92 @ 0.00482963 = 0.4443 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: asciilifeform mpoe bot has no info about market rates, so i'm curious how it will autoexercise
bones`: what would it take to be a serious BTC host?
jurov: or if mpoe strts spewing garbage instead
kakobrekla: i think most serial was cloudify or something like that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 90 @ 0.00482985 = 0.4347 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: bones` like a decade of experience in the field, actual connections, actual rented floor in multiple dcs, working relationships with the dc management, the tier 1 bw providers and parts suppliers.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00482999 = 0.3864 BTC [+] {2}
diametric: man I wish I had a laser cutter with a powered Z axis
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bones`: That's what I do by trade, and obviously I'm new here trying to expand my mind a bit
bones`: A few others and I have a hosting company but we're only in Philly right now
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah well, it's not as costly as diametric's 3d printer farm
diametric: asciilifeform: that doesn't speak precision to me
bones`: Two, we're still small and boostrapped
mircea_popescu: all the cultures the us "invaded" have actually successfuly invaded the us.
diametric: asciilifeform: well my Z is just leadscrews right now manually driven.. really crappy quality at that. I'd be better off just buying a new better laser
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 36 @ 0.00483 = 0.1739 BTC [+]
diametric: asciilifeform: i'd be skeptical those screws are very accurate
diametric: err accurate is not the word I meant
diametric: something cheap I'm sure, the leadscrews in mine are really, really crappy.
mircea_popescu: i didn;t say "asciilifeform should be less of a soviet" now did i.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 29 @ 0.0048378 = 0.1403 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13150 @ 0.00086619 = 11.3904 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.08025255 = 0.321 BTC [-] {3}
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: flushed yet? Gotta run shortly.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.09028588 = 0.632 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.079 = 0.237 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10107 @ 0.00086422 = 8.7347 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10293 @ 0.00086174 = 8.8699 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: the whole of twitter is made up of experts on the ukraine now.
Diablo-D3: can we ban people talking about the ukraine?
Diablo-D3: [05:36:38] <kakobrekla> did you relaunch DMC 5 yet?
Diablo-D3: a) 5? what happened to the other 3? b) Im no longer interested in DMC.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile rbs just announced it kinda... misplaced the 100bn the taxpayer provided
mircea_popescu: i'd say it's about 70% settled the crimeea splits off.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.00550025 = 0.198 BTC [+] {2}
ozbot: When Private Patrols Pull The Trigger |
mircea_popescu: brandished a lethal prybar and advanced toward the security guard in a threatening manner
mircea_popescu: "Much of the debate has focused on the ethics and effectiveness of bringing more guns and officers to wealthier parts of Oakland."
mircea_popescu: yeah dude, it's totally unethical for rich people to have better shit than poor people.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.11729364 = 0.3519 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59 = 1.18 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: cluj airport, about 15 years ago. previously unsecured at all, because well... originally was secured by army, then those went out, a whole story.
mircea_popescu: so they hired this ridiculous company, full of basically idiots
mircea_popescu: they lined up about 40% chicks, and it really looked like phi kappa gamma or some shit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00471514 = 0.7073 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 6 @ 0.079 = 0.474 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: one day i went behind one of these "security agents" and took her gun right out of her holster.
mircea_popescu: not like she could have fired it anyway, the gun was a .45 and the chick was like 90 lbs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59999997 = 1.8 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: very respectable gun, definitely would have sold for more than its "owner", on the open market.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11739982 = 0.2348 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: wouldn't you think they'd have been reclaimed during the 90s ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 32.43982214 BTC to 80`674 shares, 40211 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08133333 = 0.244 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11739999 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6477 @ 0.00086689 = 5.6148 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: passerbys were like... hey dude... don't you like... need that ?
mircea_popescu: was in the fucking central square, broad daylight, 1k people around
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.116 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11599999 = 0.232 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.11599999 BTC [-]
ozbot: Russia sent 'several hundred' troops into Ukraine: US official - Yahoo News
nubbins`: reports of armed soldiers @ the airports
nubbins`: asciilifeform: is there any other way?!
mircea_popescu: "Rome days away from bankruptcy. Eternal city warns it will go bust for the first time since it was destroyed by Nero."
mircea_popescu: let that be a warning to anyone thinking about passing legislation disrespectful of bitcoin :
mircea_popescu: bankruptcy is not only a possibility, but quite a reality.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0525 = 0.2625 BTC [-]
nubbins`: i've always kind of felt that organized groups of humans are inherently unstable after you surpass a certain size
mircea_popescu: "Rome won't even have money to canonize two Popes, John-Paul II and John XXIII"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.59999997 = 1.2 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "hey, you a saint yet ?" "naw, they can't fucking afford the fumigation bill"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 15 @ 0.081 = 1.215 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 31 @ 0.00483897 = 0.15 BTC [+] {2}
moiety would reply to mircea but is too busy searching the house for bulldog clips