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ozbot: In which Newsweek is remembered as a contemptible piece of shit pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popes
artifexd: mircea_popescu mike_c made a comment that would have fit nicely into that post. Something along the lines of "Leave the man alone. Either he is the real Satoshi and deserves our respect. Or he isn't and you're bothering the wrong guy."
mike_c: oh yeah, somebody in here was talking about driving over to his house.
mike_c: ^ we'll need 491 petahases for 17 zeros
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mike_c: no problem. more zeros is good.
mike_c: more zeros in front of hash means more zeros at end of btc exchange rate :)
mike_c: do these metaphors just come to you? "If this story was motivated by a quest for truth I am an alien shooting lasers from my ears"
artifexd: mike_c there was a block with 17 zeros 9 months ago
mike_c: i suppose right now something ~ 1/16 blocks should have 17 zeros
mircea_popescu: mike_c lol. but i mean... it's not THAT out there is it ?
mike_c: no i liked it. i just wonder what train of thought lead there
artifexd: mike_c, 17 zeros does appear common now. 289404, 289364, 289358... the list goes on
mike_c: if 16 zeros is required, they ought to get 17 zeros by happenstance 1/16 times or so
mike_c: 1/256 :) math is cool that way
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00087131 = 11.327 BTC [-]
gecko_x2: weird that there's no thread about the mtgox database theft
gecko_x2: one would think that millions of users would be interested if their passports leak
mircea_popescu: mtgox never had millions of users, get a hold of yourself
gecko_x2: i just got banned from ##mtgox-chat
gecko_x2: it's a majority of bitcoin users
gecko_x2: with passports, bank account details, home addresses etc
gecko_x2: i pm's this one guy that turned out to be a op on ##mtgox-chat
gecko_x2: about him trying to help this nanashi character that was trying to flog the database for personal gain
gecko_x2: as u can see in the pastebin log
gecko_x2: and yet.. no thread on bitcointalk
gecko_x2: seems like an international conspiracy of some sorts :p
gecko_x2: well MP.. they did have 1 million users
gecko_x2: "The site had 1 million customers as of December 2013, according to a document posted on the Web that was purported to be a leaked business plan."
ozbot: Lost in translation: the tangled tale of Mt. Gox's missing millions - e-commerce, Mt. Gox, security,
gecko_x2: the issue was about the stolen database
gecko_x2: i just find it weird that there is no talk
dexX7: where is gox database?
ozbot: Rumors of 20GB of data stolen from MtGox : Bitcoin
dexX7: yea i saw that, but the db is not available, right??
gecko_x2: i mean this user at the end of that pastebin
gecko_x2: was trying to help this nanashi dude
gecko_x2: and he just banned me from ##mtgox-chat for pointing out that he should report the suse to interpol or something, not help him
gecko_x2: he claimed he was trying to protect me lol
dexX7: you're mapping file size to customers?
mircea_popescu: if they had 1mn customers the average passport scan is 20kb
dexX7: a database file is certainly not an image or whatsoever
dexX7: and i doubt those are base64 encoded and stored there
dexX7: no, the claim is they are in posession of a 20 gb database and the guy further ensured that they are not looking forward to leak verification docs but they may have that
dexX7: contact infos, transaction histories etc., i'd guess
B007: I almost want to buy that db
dexX7: i mentioned base64 encoded related to "store images in a database"
mircea_popescu: i thought the claim was as to a bunch of passport scans
dexX7: i'm not aware of this and i'm also not aware that it was ever discussed this db will be up for sale
mircea_popescu: dexX7 yes, but it makes no sense. why'd you base64, what is this, db-over-email ?
mircea_popescu: dexX7 what are yu on about, that was the discussion, some nanashi dude on forum/etc
B007: "willing to sell it in pieces, 10BTC for 2gb of data"
dexX7: wait, what pastebin is that?
mircea_popescu: haha so wait, the dude figures someone cares enough about mtgox to pay 100 btc for their tx history ?
dexX7: "send btc, you surely get the data"
dexX7: "contact me for samples, so i know who the bad guys are"
gecko_x2: well if my passport and home address is in there
B007: "I will verify that I am in possesion of this data before you make purchase. Interested buyers can contact me and I will send you all information contained in file about you personally. No one contact asking for parts of the file for free/me to send file before payment."
gecko_x2: what idiot would try to sell it on irc anyways?
dexX7: so did anyone confirm this guy really has the data?
dexX7: hehe, well gecko appearingly does :)
gecko_x2: i find it amazing that nobody seems to care
gecko_x2: that stupid script still runs hehe
B007: people would care more if it was a cc dump
gecko_x2: a database of 1 million + bitcoin users with passports, home address and bank acount details?
gecko_x2: ofcourse. leave it to the great mircea popescu to just scorn and spit on anyone that talks about it
cazalla: i'd like to know if they actually deleted your data after 90 days when closing your account as they said they would
gecko_x2: just like with every other issue
gecko_x2: i bet that's why ppl love you so much on bitcointalk threads :p
gecko_x2: MP seems to me you think you are smarter that the rest of the world
gecko_x2: that's why everyone likes you.
B007: gecko_x2: Vantaa, Finland
mircea_popescu: gecko_x2 you two will have to decide at some point if you wish to talk sense or not.
mircea_popescu: i thought we just established that a) no 1mn and b) no passports.
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gecko_x2: what do you mean no passports?
gecko_x2: did you just decuce that fact in your brilliant head?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2769 @ 0.00404112 = 11.1899 BTC [-] {18}
gecko_x2: you can fit lots of data in 20GB
mircea_popescu: it means that a 20gb file containing 1mn records is limited to 20kb per record.
gecko_x2: you don't know what's in the database
dexX7: well, i requested a sample
B007: that would be worth it
B007: good ascii artists are hard to find
gecko_x2: reminds me of VLC's ascii output plugin
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B007: telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.005994 = 0.2398 BTC [+] {2}
dexX7: B007: haha that's awesome, just started watching
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 48 @ 0.005995 = 0.2878 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: that's starwars if memory serves?
cazalla: and i would guess gox count their 1m account as those registered, not just funded/active or verified
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.005996 = 0.1499 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.005996 = 0.1199 BTC [+]
cazalla: maybe the 20Gb represents 5% of people who verified and the remaining 1Gb represents the other 95% of people and is just username + email
mircea_popescu: at any rate, ~20gb worth of passport scans is, if memory serves, in the 2-3k range
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cazalla: i would guess a lot of people just send 5mb jpegs too
mircea_popescu: generally the way this crap works in practice, you have a size. if you get sent stuff under that size you return it as illegible,
cazalla: 20kb sufficient for that? i thought you need to keep a certain resolution
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benkay: psh who downsizes things
benkay: ^^ sez every derpy web dev
mircea_popescu: because they for whatever reason i've never evaluated perceive if oyu're supoena'd it's better to offer uniform sizing
mircea_popescu: conceivably they just want to avoid the edge case where judge wants to know how come the one id in the set we actually care about is also your smallest.
dexX7: "1.1 million of account and 550,000 verified customers"
mircea_popescu: this, of course, goes for businesses with like, actual COOs and GCs and whatnot
dexX7: one after the other. i did get a response, but that was simply "Your email text was empty. I am not going to open any attachments." ... accidently sent my mail with the message in the attachment
dexX7: there is also the chance that this guy will return an excerpt of the 2011 leak
dexX7: but to their defense, they already provided gox source code
dexX7: well, or let's say "a guy with the name nanashi on irc"
mircea_popescu: you can't verify it's actually gox coide, not really, you can't verify it's not just some dude passing along some pastebin he's found god knows where.
mircea_popescu: kinda where the lack of interest starts. jack shit you can in facrt verify.
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dexX7: lukas-jr could. he is referenced multiple times in the code as email recipient for an alert that goes off in case of tx sending problems
dexX7: i received another answer
dexX7: containing an address
dexX7: which is not the one used for the gox registration
dexX7: but taken from a phone book
kakobrekla: i could prolly somewhat verify the validity of the code if we had the api parts
dexX7: oh not this 2 bit idiot again
gecko_x2: just pasted.. i dunno about the author
mircea_popescu: taking bets on how long he takes to get tired and move on
mircea_popescu: "The full-time project is a company called Inscrypto, which is basically a privately-funded, decentralized version of the FDIC for Bitcoin. "
B007: when it's us dollars, it looks like $19 btw
B007: mircea_popescu: you should bet 1000 on something on your site
☟︎ joecool: still trying to find Waldo tbh
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 271 @ 0.0056429 = 1.5292 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 905 @ 0.00017953 = 0.1625 BTC [-] {8}
dexX7: "That is extremely strange, I don't know how that could be. As far as I know you are the first person who's data has not been accurate. Is it possible that you had an older account associated with that email?" ... from the gox guys
dexX7: well, no one complained about data being incorrect maybe
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dexX7: it's really odd. the data i received is indeed connected to me, but not mine. more like the one of a relative who is neither associated with my email address nor with bitcoin. and it was only "name/address/zip/city/country", no scans, id or whatsoever
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 78 @ 0.00455937 = 0.3556 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17350 @ 0.00087043 = 15.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00087027 = 18.6238 BTC [-] {2}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 70 @ 0.00569928 = 0.3989 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 324 @ 0.00430995 = 1.3964 BTC [+] {12}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8650 @ 0.00087224 = 7.5449 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.08299999 = 0.913 BTC [+] {2}
joecool: asciilifeform: its probably cool in romania
joecool: asciilifeform: i mean, they'll hear it coming a lonngggg way away
KRS-One: yeh turbo props are crazy noisy
KRS-One: i had to fly in one to the bahamas once it sucked
joecool: use it for barnstorming @ night
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joecool: i wonder if propfans are nearly as loud
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02348998 = 0.1174 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.044 = 0.484 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.04362553 = 0.4363 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00087008 = 10.615 BTC [-]
ozbot: Tracking down Bitcoin's creator - YouTube
KRS-One: fags have too much time on their hands.
KRS-One: wow..well..she needs a bit more titteh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00087593 = 8.9783 BTC [+] {2}
MisterE: I just got baked and sucked into the btce trollbox for an hour
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04425 = 0.1328 BTC [+]
ozbot: Massive BTC Movements Send Tremors Though the Bitcoin Community - I Have Bitcoins
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 42 @ 0.005995 = 0.2518 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.602505 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00087705 = 8.1566 BTC [+]
pigeons: watched a whole movie with him and still am not quite sure i believe this "paul rudd" guy is not ben affleck
Luke-Jr: who is two bit idiot, and why does he want Roger Ver running the Bitcoin Foundation? :/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00087705 = 5.1307 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00087008 = 9.0923 BTC [-]
dignork: Luke-Jr, two bit idiot is the dude who leaked mgox pdf
Luke-Jr: ThickAsThieves: that would certainly make sense then!
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greenut: btw Roger Vee.... not good thing.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.04398779 = 0.8798 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11283 @ 0.00086981 = 9.8141 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.08032883 = 1.2853 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.00563 = 0.563 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 81 @ 0.00562105 = 0.4553 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 20000 @ 0.000115 = 2.3 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.04449905 = 0.89 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4492 @ 0.00086981 = 3.9072 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2000 @ 0.0005 = 1 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.NSA] 9844 @ 0.000105 = 1.0336 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00087438 = 1.7488 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MG] 1408 @ 0.000154 = 0.2168 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9525 @ 0.00087524 = 8.3367 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6025 = 1.205 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00087695 = 2.4993 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.08590962 = 0.1718 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.07562202 = 4.6886 BTC [-] {8}
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benkay: i gather we're in the backlash phase of this mainstream hype cycle
benkay: there's no price signal, so everyone's reduced to gibbering like animals about satoshi
benkay: errybody wanna bitcoin, so long as it's easily obtained from government-approved taps
chetty_: gubermint approved - oh noes, ruuuuuunnnnn
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0749992 = 0.15 BTC [-]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07172951 = 0.4304 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63875 @ 0.00080768 = 51.5906 BTC [-] {8}
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr: who is two bit idiot, and why does he want Roger Ver running the Bitcoin Foundation? :/ << take a guess
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2030 @ 0.00403232 = 8.1856 BTC [-] {10}
ozbot: US language tutor jailed for 30 years for sexually exploiting children in China | South China Mornin
mircea_popescu: the chinese educational dilemma : to hire or not to hire us citizens ?
mircea_popescu: on one hand, they're all pedos. on the other hand, if you catch them you can deport them for a massive fat sentence.
mircea_popescu: what would one have, unmolested children or severely punished child molested ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.04292874 = 0.3005 BTC [-] {5}
MisterE: PatrickHarnett being sued?
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 150 @ 0.0056025 = 0.8404 BTC [-] {2}
dexX7_: why is it a thing what the foundation does or not does? i don't think they are in duty and they seem to do a lot of lobby work which i think is a good thing
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 146 @ 0.00560165 = 0.8178 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 686 @ 0.00017944 = 0.1231 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11892 @ 0.0008337 = 9.9144 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 40 @ 0.0056 = 0.224 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 498 @ 0.00400077 = 1.9924 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00082976 = 5.5179 BTC [-]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 36 @ 0.07304161 = 2.6295 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2371 @ 0.003745 = 8.8794 BTC [-] {23}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1629 @ 0.0036 = 5.8644 BTC [-]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0721 = 0.721 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well at least he didn't lose it on the scientology of bitcoin
mircea_popescu: would be funny if it turns out this is how the greatest leader that ever was picks up nowadays
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 23 @ 0.0056 = 0.1288 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: but anyway, this notion that you can (or should) fly commercial from the cockpit is nonsense in the first place, and was on the out since at least the 60s
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 23 @ 0.59788693 = 13.7514 BTC [-] {9}
mircea_popescu: lucky the ukraine thing didn't happen in winter btw, or else it'd have been quite literal cold war.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07439999 = 0.372 BTC [+]
ozbot: Razlet thought on the topic of size and fitting pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
ThickAsThieves: you kinda make a pretty big leap from razlet to dog sizes
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ThickAsThieves: btw designers already can't handle different sized humans. I'm only 6'2" and can't fit properly into most cars
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.00397924 = 0.3183 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete hes the guy with the galt gulch project neh ?
nubbins`: there was a post on the forums last year about some guy making "bitcoin town"
nubbins`: he waited til around the tenth paragraph before he mentioned the forced ingestion of nootropics
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu Ya, that's him alright. Also from my hometown incidentally.
nubbins`: "Bitcoin town will work to protect, promote & repair the mental health of any willing citizens ... And we will work to be at the forefront of Neurogenesis and Synaptogenesis research."
nubbins`: next thing he's talking about datura and sweat lodges
mircea_popescu: it could have been right out of Master of Orion, this research
ThickAsThieves: is la serenissima a fancy way of saying world's smallest violin?
[\]: nubbins`, I know of a couple but you can't have them.
[\]: So I read through the pirate docs...
[\]: why didn't anyone tell me that I got fully repaid?
[\]: to think this whole time I got screwed
mircea_popescu: it's this mystical re-enactment of the venetian republic.
mircea_popescu: [\\\] people wanted you to have a nice surprise on mother's day.
[\]: but I'm not a mother
peterl: depends on where you live?
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[\]: is there anywhere but the USA?
peterl: I've only been places in the USA, so the rest of the world must not exist!
peterl: wait, no, I've been to Canada, but that's just about the same thing
peterl: Which is bigger, York or New York?
mircea_popescu: "There are thousands of acres of in BC Canada that are owned by the Queen of England....If we squat there drill some wells and plant some trees. Do you really think the Queen is going to bring us an eviction notice or force us off the land with military force?"
ozbot: Let's Build a Town, Bitcoin Town
mircea_popescu: The Citadel is evolving as a planned community where residents are bound together by:
mircea_popescu: someone somewhere actually believes that *us people* are anything but exceptionally stupid nao ?!
mircea_popescu: i guess the very essex-looking walltower kinda makes the point better than 10k words
mircea_popescu: "i am proud of these unrelated people's feudal architecture!"
mircea_popescu: HOUSING DETAILS: All homes will be built of poured concrete for exceptional strength and durability.
mircea_popescu: "Your home will be built to your specs (details available at this website) with utilities stubbed to the interior. You select the facade for the exterior of your home. You are responsible for completing the interior of your home as you wish. You may choose to do the work yourself, or hire contractors. But every single detail, from paint to tiles to counters, is your choice."
mircea_popescu: how about my choice of not living in a carved up rock ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.0445999 = 0.892 BTC [+] {8}
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the record, the same exact situation is the case in romania
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.07439998 = 0.2976 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: except you also get the choice to make a brick-in-concrete pillars with poured concrete foundation and wood roofing house,
mircea_popescu: and you can even use microcellular concrete or w/e you call it in english
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07439998 = 0.372 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: "we just called it the citadel because the outhouse was taken
mircea_popescu: anyway, how would one design buildings to "withstand" direct military attacks ? use an abandoned salt mine or something ?
chetty_: hey lets round ourselves up, save them moving us to the reservation (brave new world)
mircea_popescu: "all rooves are poured rebared concrete 10 meter thick"
mircea_popescu: "and if they make bigger bunker busters, we'll just pour more concrete"
mircea_popescu: "We actually hope to make a local restaurant and turn it into a national franchise"
mircea_popescu: o hey, we'll be just like the amish, except suckier and without tradition
mircea_popescu: "we need to go to each church and offer them contracts to not be churches any more"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im still digesting the earlier forum thing
mircea_popescu: "You have to work if you want a share of communal food"
mircea_popescu: what they'd do is what they currently do in the shitty pits they inhabit (starbucks et atll)
[\]: you should start charging for invites to this channel
KRS-One: teh lolpacity of the fapacity...let there be fap.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 80 @ 0.045 = 3.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 42 @ 0.13311598 = 5.5909 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.37038703 BTC to 3`597 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
KRS-One: Heh that first bitch looks fun..And free.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.67652000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 3080 satoshi per share
KRS-One: That guy who has her in bonds totally reminds me of a friend of mine who would do that.
KRS-One: I think its Ozbot..not me.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00599648 = 0.1079 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00082909 = 9.6589 BTC [-]
KRS-One: Ok ozbot..no fucking around. Gimme a good one.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00397924 = 0.5571 BTC [-] {4}
KRS-One: HAH Shrem and Karpelese coindesk 'coined' bromance.
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bitcoinpete: Wondering if I should be trusting bitaddress.org… Anyone else use it?
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it conveniently dots the screen, so no need for radio mouse
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete just generate entropy the traditional way.
mircea_popescu: gimmicks are fun for a computing project in computer class,
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bitcoinpete: lots of good reading on thelastpsychiatrist btw. keepin' me busy
ozbot: When did the 2007 banking crisis start ? How about 1985. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07667742 = 0.23 BTC [+] {3}
moiety: asciilifeform asciilifeform I've come to terms with the giant manul not actually being giant (how did i not see that?!) .. decided we need to find someone proficient in GM to make it happen though
moiety: i know some have human blood today
mircea_popescu: Here's something to quote at the Dr. Gregs of Bitcoin finance : "Inevitably, of course, business errors will occur and the wise manager will try to find the proper lessons in them. But the trick is to learn most lessons from the experiences of others. Managers who have learned much from personal experience in the past usually are destined to learn much from personal experience in the future."
moiety: even manul had to have been cross bred at some point
moiety: LOLOL imagine how much more confy this one would be
moiety: one more derp and i shall leave you in peace... can i ask a laser derp asciilifeform ?
moiety: ligers are interesting, they can't breed i was under the impression
moiety: ok lasers, i aw a purple laser for the first time (side note of epic btw) and the site said, "comes into its own during a lunar eclipse." is there something actually in that because its purple or is that just a gimmick?
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: the banking crisis piece is on the talebian money. history doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme. house=louse
moiety: so just any laser is going to look better during an eclipse?
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete i will take the other end of that view : it's unfair to make the blind the designated drivers of your bar hopping party
mircea_popescu: it is equally unfair, and quite callous, to sign up for mortgages idiots whi ocan't afford them
bitcoinpete: or to tell them that they aren't men/adults/people w/o a mortgage
moiety: thank you asciilifeform!
bitcoinpete: 400 million people weren't brought to North America for their shrewdness, just their escapism
mircea_popescu: they were housed somewhere at the time the clinton binge begun
mircea_popescu: i suppose in its own contorted, braindamaged way, the left was preparing for the future.
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moiety: i knew a girl that managed to get a mortgage working at walmart, i had no chance working nhs
moiety: mircea_popescu: on the inside
mircea_popescu: is this one ALSO a vc and entreprteneur who thinks himself well known ?
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mircea_popescu: actually spider legs is probably the best solution for robots.
moiety: pet lasers?! beats the purple one hands down!
mircea_popescu: moiety just think, one could code that thing to bother cats
moiety: mircea_popescu: Plan! I appear to have two subjects ready for testing. though, you know it won't get rid of me forever, i'd come back and show you the results
mircea_popescu: btw, i don't recall if i ever showed diametric my toy anti-fly plan ?
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually 8 legs is prolly ideal. in rough conditions legs are used for navigation, like a spider. on normal situations two legs are used as depth perceptive eyes
mircea_popescu: 4chan wisdom ("what was seen cannot be unseen") provides an amply useful philosophical framework
moiety: i'm not planning on arming the cats to be fair
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 816 @ 0.0001756 = 0.1433 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform perhaps too advanced yet, but! suppose the thing actually MADE its own polymers
moiety still thinks a cat botherer would be the best plan
mircea_popescu: " I hope you come to this year’s meeting, which will be held on May 20 in Omaha. There will be only one change: after 48 years of allegiance to another soft drink, your Chairman, in an unprecedented display of behavioral flexibility, has converted to the new Cherry Coke. Henceforth, it will be the Official Drink of the Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting."
mircea_popescu: who's to know, my hayseed was maybe drinking OmahaCola
moiety: not just one change, a distinct drop in respect and increase in hilarity this year
moiety: btctalks ads just get better.. trusted ponzi's now?!
bitcoinpete: even at his advanced age, still hustlin' for that cherry
benkay: en.bitcoin.it down for anyone else?
mod6: benkay: ya, (Can't contact the database server: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 (mysql))
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moiety: building freelance platform that is 60% complete. need 10btc benkay
benkay: lalalalala not reading moiety
ozbot: [Mpex.co] The Scientology of Bitcoin Finance?
mircea_popescu: also TIL MPOE-PR is 1.8687% of bitcointalk's scam accusationsboard.
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mircea_popescu: from the "i'm a derp on the internet hear me roar" dept : "It is often noted that Barack Obama is an expert on constitutional law. That is better than the alternative, but it doesn't follow from that credential that he has a sound (or even benign) philosophical understanding of the constitution. Obama's credentials as a constitutional lawyer pale compared to those of Justice Antonin Scalia, for instance, and Scalia's p
mircea_popescu: hilosophical conception of the constitution is pernicious."
mircea_popescu: isn't it great that every hs drop-out / grocery packing specialist out there gets to judge the president and the supreme court justices ?
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mircea_popescu: According to Buffett's 2006 letter to Berkshire shareholders, Blue Chip had 1970 sales of $126 million as about 60 billion of "stamps were licked by savers, pasted into books, and taken to Blue Chip redemption stores." He also said, "When I was told that even certain brothels and mortuaries gave stamps to their patrons, I felt I had finally found a sure thing." Sales dropped to $19.4 million in 1980 and $1.5 million in
mircea_popescu: "stay away from technology, we don't understand it. focus on stamps and wrigley's instead"
B007: I don't think anyone under 20 even knows what Blue Chip was
ozbot: [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings
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ozbot: Another Bitcoin Exchange Bites The Dust: Vault of SatosHistory
B007: "in order to be acknowledged as the single professional trading platform in the world for operations in cryptographic currencies."
ThickAsThieves: <kakobrekla> previous was normal coke? // pepsi, says his book
ozbot: Fans raise cash for Dorian Nakamoto, irrespective of his link to Bitcoin | Ars Technica
ThickAsThieves: I like how DrGreg goes "Have you noticed, MPOE-PR, that each and every time you have attempted to start a substantive argument with me of any kind, I have handed you your a** on a platter? " and then goes "The difference is, these folks have the class not to belabor the point, they have the class not to run around after you saying "hey, look at this joke I just made up about you, and
ThickAsThieves: I think it's really funny, and aren't I brilliant?"" in the same breath
ThickAsThieves: he wants mpoe-pr to teach him more explicitly, rather than laugh that he doesn't read that icbit and gox are scams on his own
ThickAsThieves: i guess the next LSD study results won't be publicly shared
ThickAsThieves: do we need to read past "The CIA, for instance, is moving toward the cloud with the help of Amazon"
mircea_popescu: anyway, the mpoe-pr thing is quite efficient, in that people who still confuse us two inadvertently manage to show about how much effort they're willing to put into research
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wonder if it is unpatriotic to point out that generally speaking, the chinese military and perhaps others have been reading the us communications for a while now
mircea_popescu: they don't really need to wait for a snowden to come around
thestringpuller: i feel like that's just an ancillary effect in certain cases - i think there are people who are hell bent on proving MP === MPOE-PR and put plent of effort into researching that. nevertheless...
ThickAsThieves: people willing to put more effort protecting being wrong
mircea_popescu: it just sticks out as such an ill advised time and effort investment.
mircea_popescu: i mean, on one hand ample proof to the contrary is available
mircea_popescu: but even that aside... suppose you somehow prove she's me. nao what ?
mircea_popescu: not even a lousy "mp is a hypocreat!11" sticks, it'd work out more like "omg mp is such a better troll than you"
mircea_popescu: it's just... obviously nobody bothered to think it through
Namworld: Dorian Nakamoto will get much more than a free lunch it seems.
Namworld: Yeah well I guess you can't really see it as free.
Namworld: I did? Oh, I shouldn't be here then.
mircea_popescu: hm, iks it me or is bitbet bereft of its favicon nao ?
Namworld: Dibs on thirtytwobitidiot. I'll spread "Bitcoin hack tools to print Bitcoins" links replacing victims' OS with Windows ME.
thestringpuller: not even sign her up for a bunch of porn magazine subscriptions?
mircea_popescu: anyway, this seems like a normal mortgage you'd expect a 30something to be burdened by neh ?
Namworld: Apparently someone just used my email to register a My Wallet on blockchain.info... wtf?
Namworld: Looks like all links are the correct domain, no fishing there.
mircea_popescu: Saint Bonaventure University BAs, Journalism and Political Science; minors in Spanish, Fine Art 1994 – 1998
ThickAsThieves: i only questioned the home price cause I assumed she was in a CA metro
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: dujde srsly, it's an athletics only thing with like 2k people enrolled
ozbot: Pizda (chemical) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
mircea_popescu: mpoe-pr upon being showed the pizda chemical : "wait pizda is made of hos?"
ThickAsThieves: "The exchange is closing down. Its been a fun beta period but we need to go back to the drawing board for the good of our business/future. <3"
mircea_popescu: a) stuckj to play currency ; b) closed down when it became clear.
moiety: been as well just paying him
mircea_popescu: "I would bet 0.1btc asicminer pays more in divs the following year."
ThickAsThieves: “Ms. McGrath…my apologies for saying this, you don’t have a clue that you are clueless. If you have the guts to debate me in the press, send me your email address and let’s have it out.”
mircea_popescu: why do scammers manage to retain so little of the btc they scam ? well... "We also believe candor benefits us as managers: the CEO who misleads others in public may eventually mislead himself in private."
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Duffer1: i'm pretty disappointed in the latest crop of mmos
dexX7_: <ThickAsThieves> 38k doge stolen. < quite a few hacks recently. gox, bistamp, flexcoin, polioniex and openex
ThickAsThieves: i ran a guild once in WoW, started off okay, ended up a slave
ThickAsThieves: Duffer1 this one looks okay, though it seems to borrow from Rift a bit
mircea_popescu: also dominate the ah, but that's usually the case with me
Duffer1: i've watched some twitch footage of eso, it doesn't look like my type of game, but it's an mmo so i'll still probably play it a bit hehe
Duffer1: leading raids reminds me of herding cats
Duffer1: blizz's new moba looks like a lot of fun
Duffer1: if you can get a core group of competent players on a set schedule then raiding can be a lot of fun
Duffer1: heroes of the storm i believe it's going to be called
mircea_popescu: Duffer1 but it still consists of following a set procedure and talking to people on the phone.
Duffer1: it becomes more about the hanging out with friends than the raiding
cazalla: it's not really about skill, it's a social thing now
cazalla: look at the first year of WoW versus the pos it is now
mircea_popescu: cazalla didn't wow end up giving noobs max level just to prop their numbers for investors conference call ?
ThickAsThieves: when i was in a hardcore WoW guild, with real progression, the leader was a total drill sergeant
KRS-One: i tried WoW. hated it.. warcraft2 ftw. zug zug.
cazalla: ThickAsThieves: it worked well
cazalla: I did DKP for my guild, it was like taking the high school drop out and making him a cop
cazalla: WoW didn't really compare to Everquest though, that game was social + hardcore, none of this soloing rubbish
Duffer1: cazz going to play eq next?
ThickAsThieves: while they wouldnt say i scammed, many would say they disagreed with choices
cazalla: reputation mattered in everquest as well, doesn't matter for shit in WoW
ThickAsThieves: some veteren would show up after months away and expect the best loot, some noob would die first for 10 weeks and expect same drop
cazalla: unless your item never drops
mircea_popescu: no one is happy unless they are getting more than they estimated they're worth, and everyone's overestimating his own importance.
cazalla: bow off chromagg never dropped for me in 2 years :\
mircea_popescu: that's why governments which make a point of subjects' hapiness never end well.
ThickAsThieves: it's odd that these games never implemented their own DKP systems
cazalla: wasn't something you could buy mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: see, this is fucktarded. i would never play a game where you can't buy everything
mircea_popescu: it is an insult to everything i hold right proper and important.
Duffer1: bind on pickup has it's place though surely
cazalla: mircea_popescu: there was a server in EQ like that which allowed everything to be traded so there was a lot of buying/selling going on for that server
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mircea_popescu: (it has like 50+ currency types, it's insane, tokens of this, tokens of that)
Duffer1: is there no bind on pickup in rift? i only played the beta
cazalla: yes, i must feel superior to the scrubs
mircea_popescu: thre are some bound to char/acct stuff you buy via the fiat shop
mircea_popescu: well in fairness i craft epic items and moist everyone doesn't have them
mircea_popescu: there's legendary and i think 2 more rarities past that
ThickAsThieves: it's funny how Dota basically riffed off Bliz characters already
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Duffer1: how does bitcoin integrate to your guild MP?
cazalla: bliz moba will just be another social game with a shop so you can spend more money on flair
cazalla: i hope and mmo brings bitcoin into a game and does away with their own in game currency, that'd be interesting in a game with a solid crafting system
cazalla: i saw pics of that on your blog i believe unless i'm wrong, forget the name
mircea_popescu: cazalla it's this company that's been working for half a year at making a bitcoin based mmo
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves im pretty sure you'll be hooked once it's playable.
mircea_popescu: imo the only games worth playing anymore are btc games, if well done.
Duffer1: do people actually buy plat for btc?
ThickAsThieves: i almost wanna get into 3d modelling just to bank off all the hat buyers
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves will be a good skill ot have, get btc off smg too
ThickAsThieves: i imagine i have good base knowledge with years of vector art experience in 2d
cazalla: i wonder if using bitcoin as in-game currency would stop mudflation
wao-ender: cazalla: is there problem to make it as in-app payments?
cazalla: wao-ender: depends if it's only used to buy products from the company or if players can do trade
wao-ender: ex. buy levels in game, buy experience, skills..
cazalla: allow players to buy/sell items or w/e else they find in the world but that's it
wao-ender: wait, you don't remember how shareware worked few decades ago?
cazalla: no, i had full version of stuff
cazalla: paying to upgrade skills or levels is pay to win
wao-ender: that's what consumers want, easy win
cazalla: buying/selling items that i find legitimately in game is just common sense
cazalla: ThickAsThieves: you end up with more idiots who don't know how to play their class that way
ThickAsThieves: let me roll another character without doing every stupid quest again
cazalla: you need to make the leveling process slow if you do it that way imo
cazalla: just so that it actually means something to have a max level character
ThickAsThieves: sure, maybe the first time, and less and less each time after
Duffer1: i like how wow eventually tackled that problem
ThickAsThieves: likein WoW, there was often a shortage of tanks and healers
cazalla: although i will agree that with an older game like WoW, it makes sense to let people buy levels as it's population heavy at the top end
Duffer1: with legacy honor gear that's tradable to your alts that give massive xp bonuses
ThickAsThieves: they introduced that around the time i stopped playing
Duffer1: ya they introduced it wayyyy too late
cazalla: i quit after that wotlk, far too much hand holding, it became really boring
Duffer1: i have no interest in mists of pandas or the new one
cazalla: i'm looking forward to EQN but i doubt it'll be as hardcore as the original, that's not so bad once you have kids though
Duffer1: eqn looks very interesting
ThickAsThieves: it seems stupid, but dota 2 letting you buy outfits is such a better solution then just not designing new ones
cazalla: yet to play that but i assume outfits are just their version of LoL skins?
ThickAsThieves: i'm not terribly familiar with LoL, even though it's more popular
Duffer1: borderlands art is infinitely better than lol
cazalla: disagree it's borderlands type though as i hate that style too
cazalla: cheap runs on more computers which i would guess is why it's so popular, it'll run on a calculator
Duffer1: try the first borderlands if you're into rpgs
ThickAsThieves: basically dota 2 riffed off WoW and removed some of the cartoony aspects
Duffer1: in wow i always got the sense that the texture artists were really unhappy with the models they got
Duffer1: it's like they had one modeller doing everything, who's style showed throughout every piece of gear, and the rest of the team were disgruntled texture artists
Duffer1: i don't miss wow hehe, i do miss cracking out on a good mmo though, it's been a really long time
ThickAsThieves: it sounds silly but ugly models definitely contributed to me losing interest in raiding too
Duffer1: if you're going to make every lvl 80 character class look the same in end game then you better damned well make them look good
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves alternatively, don't allow a second character at all.
ThickAsThieves: how do you disallow more characters whilst allowing new accounts?
mircea_popescu: why do you want to play anything other than your character anyway ? because inept game design introduced artificial barriers perhaps ?
Duffer1: i had one of every class to learn pvp weaknesses
ThickAsThieves: mp did you ever play that iOS game where every time you die you are the son?
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cazalla: ThickAsThieves: rogue legacy?
mircea_popescu: "The two went through a contentious divorce in 1999 but remained friends, business partners and housemates sharing the $3.7 million, six bedroom, eight bathroom home."
Duffer1: holy shit MP it's Donna's parents from That 70s Show