gribble: Current Blocks: 304569 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1862 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 14 hours, 11 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11546245801.6 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.78884
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 12 @ 0.02791351 = 0.335 BTC [-] {3}
mike_c: it is a very cool thing whose time may have finally come.
mircea_popescu: "Kadú es en la actualidad el único fetish bar de Buenos Aires donde nos reunimos los gays leather locales y donde acuden también muchos visitantes extranjeros, los sábados desde las 10 de la noche. Consta de un bar y un sótano donde la acción sexual está garantizada: las prácticas del BDSM más habituales son el fisting, las lluvias (para las que, a diferencia de los anteriores clubes, hay un sector específico), el nipple
thestringpuller: indirect mining investment eh? Guess it can be a way to access mining...
mircea_popescu: menos frecuencia se dan algunas sesiones de bondage, spanking o whiping, para las cuales el establecimiento provee de los accesorios necesarios. El código de vestimenta es estricto: cuero, látex, uniformes. "
danielpbarron: <+handsomesally> Jesus gives life to the world? everyone? if that is everyone in the world then everyone goes to heaven but that is not true << Scripture teaches that a person can believe in vain (1 Corinthians 15:2), receive the grace of God in vain (2 Corinthians 6:1), and even be sanctified by the blood of the covenant (Hebrews 10:29), and still end up in hell (Revelation 21:8). If a person's life questionably matches wh
mike_c: daniel, he's gone. it's ok.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.075 = 0.15 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: mike_c, heh, i was up in the scroll; didn't know he left
danielpbarron: but apparently he's reading the logs through the website, so he'll probably see this anyway
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.287 = 0.574 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.288 = 0.576 BTC [+]
assbot: Clarkson eats an Ortolan bunting - YouTube
decimation: I suspect your crazed fowl wouldn't be as tasty as a real ortolan
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+]
decimation: re: religious people: The religious zealots who bother in me are those who have turned marxism into godless Christianity - they hold the whip hand in the west for now
mircea_popescu: "The Better Business Bureau in Austin has issued a warning about doing business with Cointerra, a Bitcoin mining manufacturer."
decimation: asciilifeorm: I made contact with Mr. Parker, his tool was to create hdl code from a 7400 netlist, not the other way
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mthreat has been recorded.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mthreat has changed from 1 to 1.
assbot: Potato Semiconductor 74 Logic
Mats_cd03: theology and quibbling over scripture and doctrine is so fucking dumb
Mats_cd03: a waste of cycles to so much as hold the thought in your head
gribble: Current Blocks: 304571 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1860 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 13 hours, 50 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11600761528.4 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.32514
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 647.83, Best ask: 649.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 649.26, 24 hour volume: 6364.35989286, 24 hour low: 647.13, 24 hour high: 662.13, 24 hour vwap: 657.244722223
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.0279004 = 0.1674 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.076 = 0.152 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 18 @ 0.02788335 = 0.5019 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0764 = 0.382 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7517 @ 0.00085285 = 6.4109 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00253649 = 0.142 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.2948926 BTC [+]
dooglus: Re: <+BingoBoingo> Anyone else remember the KingofSPorts lolcow who got 1BTC from dooglus for writing a confessional about his gambling everything all the time and landing in rehab?
dooglus: I didn't give him anything did I?
mike_c: hey dooglus, how's it going. big day on JD today!
assbot: Just-Dice stat: 18429 BTC profit, 43.0k BTC invested, 1231.52 mio bets, 5.28 mio BTC wagered
mike_c: 5750 wagered, nicely above average.
dooglus: crazy day, yes. at least 4 major incidents in the last 24h
dooglus: whale LiKaShing deposits 20 BTC, and has it immediately withdrawn by sources unknown. claims site is hacked
dooglus: fake theymos loses fortune
dooglus: klye admits to spunking porn ipo fund over just-dice
mike_c: yeah, that was a good one
mike_c: what did you do about likashing?
dooglus: and pippin after discovering the joy of investing in jd instead of losing, loses all
dooglus: I kind of accused him of trying to make the site look bad
dooglus: that mike is still badmouthing CR in hs thread
mircea_popescu: dooglus i don't imagine 20 btc s the largest cash deposit
mike_c: did you offer any kind of evidence or just lean on your rep?
mike_c: just curious about how you deal with that kind of thing. must be reasonably common to get scam accused.
dooglus: I don't have any evidence. someone used his URL to access his account...
dooglus: it's quite rare, other than the rigtards "7 lo in a row! impossibru!"
mike_c: user 798461 last 24 hours: wagered 2,838 lost 565. ouch.
Namworld: eh, I can't do much more about it.
dooglus: weird rating system. the more trouble her has with the site, th more checkmarks you get for customer support
dooglus: he never had a problem with JD, so we get none
Namworld: Well to hell with it. If he's not happy not having instant support.
Namworld: We can't currently offer that.
dooglus: I expect MP's buttcoin was Klye's first experience with selling his body for tips
dooglus: I just linked to MPIF in a reddit comment btw
assbot: dooglus comments on Someone calling themselves "theymos" is gambling like mad on Just-Dice
dooglus: you're banned from reddit?
mircea_popescu: just, average redditard gets butthurt when reminded mpex exists
mircea_popescu: plenty of people still around that "invested" in glbse and predicted mpex' imminent closure back in 2012 etc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 20 @ 0.01980034 = 0.396 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0237999 = 0.1666 BTC [+]
TheNewDeal: why do all the fun topics like horseporn start up when I go to sleep?!
TheNewDeal: does anyone have any intel on who created the WTI bet / why?
assbot: wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki]
bitcoinpete: i met CryptoConsultor at our local meet-up the other week and he asked for a q&a… naturally i brought him here
TheNewDeal: bitcoinpete you liking the looks of your Bastille Day purchase?
gribble: Current Blocks: 304590 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1841 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes, and 17 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11836591652.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.68081
dooglus: there's a pending bet on bitbet about Klye's longevity
TheNewDeal: network has been hashing quite slow since the diff change...
dooglus: but it's phrased as a disjunction, so I doubt it will b acceptable
bitcoinpete: dooglus: i read the logs earlier… how does kyle have any longevity left?
dooglus: he hopes the bet is accepted so he can advise his creditors to vote "o" then top himself
bitcoinpete: TheNewDeal: ya and a bunch of hashpower skipped down like 2 hours before the reset
TheNewDeal: mircea_popescu is there a problem with trilema credits? I'm suddenly able to browse quite freely when using my 4G piped through my phone
bitcoinpete: TheNewDeal: 3g/4g always gives fresh ip addresses me thinks
bitcoinpete: Apocalyptic:hum, so clueless wannabe investor's pool hasn't dried up yet << but it's shrivelling like a salted slug
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0765 = 0.153 BTC [+]
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: wait, just like germany ? << lulz it's a new trend!
dooglus: bitcoinpete: I don't think so
CryptoConsultor: i see. you find bitcoin info loaded more on freenet servers?
CryptoConsultor: definatly feel a bit rusty with my web skillz. Industrial work has made me soft
bitcoinpete: dooglus: a misunderstood then. either way, betting on that kid is as sensical as that kid's betting
bitcoinpete: CryptoConsultor: well spend 6 months reading logs here and derusting and you'll be good as new
CryptoConsultor: so much to digest already. you place this place highest in priority?
assbot: Tony Bennett & Bill Evans - Young And Foolish - YouTube
CryptoConsultor: It's rough these days to find the time to be the grand lurker I used to be
bitcoinpete: fluffypony: PS. I'm valuing my next company at $1 billion despite it having accomplished very little and/or nothing << what were we gonna ipo again? iWalletBackup inspired by usagi?
bitcoinpete: CryptoConsultor: i hear ya but there's no other way
bitcoinpete: mike_c:are you fking kidding me. halep in the finals?? << against the blonde bomber!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1791 @ 0.00085257 = 1.527 BTC [-] {2}
bitcoinpete: well, at least you can outsource some of the research to me :D
CryptoConsultor: If I can navigate these crtpto waters I should hopefully phase out my industrial life
bitcoinpete: i started reading logs in december last year
bitcoinpete: took me 8 months or so to find this place for realz
bitcoinpete: i found trilema right quick, but it was so far over my head that it took almost a year of reading it and many other books to come to terms with it.
CryptoConsultor: I spent many years reading logs back in the days before Napster
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.29744651 = 5.9489 BTC [+] {6}
benkay: CryptoConsultor: are you a cryptographic consultant?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07493514 = 0.7494 BTC [-]
bitcoinpete: CryptoConsultor: i wasn't on irc prior to being here. i was on twitter and local meet-ups mostly
CryptoConsultor: My crypto career is a work in progress. But ya I've had some Computer Security jobs in the past
benkay: what kind of crypto career are you building?
CryptoConsultor: Well I hope to transition my old school internet EDU into this new crypto blockchaining fun
bitcoinpete: mike_c: if you have identified a small set of awesome investments, why would you put money in something else that is worse? << let them eat cake!
bitcoinpete: CryptoConsultor: as always, the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago
bitcoinpete: you're not competing with ideal, just reality
mike_c: the blonde bomber better win
mike_c: what is this klye bet you're talking about?
bitcoinpete: mike_c: not entirely clear, dooglus seems to know tho
bitcoinpete: CryptoConsultor: being here so soon puts you miles ahead of the redditards and coindeskers
bitcoinpete: i have sharp words for a lot of people lol
TheNewDeal: mike_c looked like there is a proposed bet on kyle dying?
bitcoinpete: maidsafe, circle, twobitidiot, core devs, seamonster, usa, central banks...
TheNewDeal: "Mr Kyle lost Kylemax IPO funds, will he be dead or alive in 8 months?"
TheNewDeal: I'm confused why the Kevin Love bet didn't succeed after reading news about him possibly being transferred. Concerned MN native
bitcoinpete: well intentioned though they may be, they do harm to themselves and those who pray at their fucktarded feet
bitcoinpete: there's some room for compassion in this world but there's also room for being smart and not losing money
TheNewDeal: mircea_popescu UStardianism is most definitely a religion, and it's virtually synonymous with christianity
bitcoinpete: when "1 inmueble goes for 1 btc" even better
CryptoConsultor: right awn. I've got happy results even being late to the game
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.01980019 = 0.198 BTC [-]
TheNewDeal: bitcoinpete, haven't you hit some hard times in bitcoin as well?
bitcoinpete: CryptoConsultor: less than the oct/nov run
benkay: <CryptoConsultor> Well I hope to transition my old school internet EDU into this new crypto blockchaining fun // pardon me, EDU?
TheNewDeal: maybe I'm thinking of someone else. There was somebody that MP forced writing some GPG signed apology letter / explanation of some really crockety bitcoin stock endeavour
CryptoConsultor: My first round of Post Secondary school was many many years ago. We learned to txt edit HTML. So yea I got old rusty skills.
bitcoinpete: first i've heard of a gpg signed apology letter
CryptoConsultor: I explained to pete that I was once many years ago an active IRC junkie/web coder and then shifted out of web work for industrial paycheques
CryptoConsultor: this world feels alien to me now. gotta bruch up some old cob webs in the head
bitcoinpete: CryptoConsultor: been playing with tech stocks for about 15 years, did some lending and gambling as a kid, then started reading taleb and others about 4 years ago and here we are
CryptoConsultor: I did a few years at NAIT, but IRC taught me more then any classroom
benkay: CryptoConsultor: what pays the bills for you now?
benkay: what is this 'industrial' you mention - word means a lot of things in a lot of contexts.
benkay: production line installations and programming etc?
CryptoConsultor: Yea automated coal processing plant and Diesel Electric drive controls
benkay: so what do you plan to do with yourself in btc?
CryptoConsultor: I was stunned when I went to the Calgary Comic Convention and NOBODY was talkin Bitcoin
bitcoinpete: comicers like their little imaginary boxes
CryptoConsultor: well if I have to set up in convention center I will. they seem the best crowd to jump on the bandwagon next
bitcoinpete: and more than function, geeks can own the world
bitcoinpete: bitcoin is going to the upper crust and/or making its own
bitcoinpete: my attention is here and needn't be elsewhere
bitcoinpete: it's wall street's attention that will follow
TheNewDeal: did I understand this correctly that the namecoin network hashrate is sitting at about half that of the bitcoin network?
bitcoinpete: asciilifeform: cat experts, chime in - can the animal tunnel << gonna say no
mike_c: TheNewDeal: mergemining
TheNewDeal: I understand that it is mergmined, but the fact that a coin is mergmined does not guarantee anyone considers it worth mining, no?
bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: it is better to be stupid and appear stupid than to be stupid and appear a ceo. << à la kyle
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 216 @ 0.003001 = 0.6482 BTC [-]
mike_c: TheNewDeal: true.. but i am seeing the same numbers as you. 45 ph/s
TheNewDeal: methinks that people must believe it is worth mining
TheNewDeal: judging by the numbers, half as worthy
bitcoinpete: there's a fantastically intense couple's fight going on in the apartment next door
TheNewDeal: I'm actually just beginning to read about it now, after it being mentioned yeshterday in the lawgs
bitcoinpete: these late 19th century brick buildings don't shield sound like newer ones
TheNewDeal: if you swoop in at the right time, you could get some revenge sex
peterl: TheNewDeal: I think it was me you are thinking of with the gpg signed letter
peterl: hey, I'm peter, he is pete
peterl: and MP did not force me to write it, he just made a friendly suggestion
TheNewDeal: half of what I say is gibberish, and must be taken for granted
cazalla: almost all of you are named either peter or paul
gribble: Current Blocks: 304597 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 1834 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 58 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11643866275.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.95849
TheNewDeal: oh my gribbles this has been a slow start to the diff change
peterl: cazalla: don't forget the marys
peterl: isn't there a bitbet about difficulty dropping?
TheNewDeal: I'm going to put out TheNewDeal's current prediction of 6.9% increase
cazalla: i think you mean marie but i get confused myself
assbot: BitBet - Lewis Hamilton to win 2014 F1 World Champion :: 0.06 B (60%) on Yes, 0.04 B (40%) on No | closing in 5 months 2 weeks | weight: 99`893 (100`000 to 1)
TheNewDeal: yes and it pays out 1.32 at 1 BTC with a timeweight of only 6,000
TheNewDeal: but you would be betting basically that one of the next two diff changes is going to be negative
TheNewDeal: crawling over bitbets is my second job
CryptoConsultor: I'll keep reading up on this gribble guy. He's a lot more fancy than the eggbots I used to know
TheNewDeal: gribble's a boss, but he's notorious for underpredicting diff increases
TheNewDeal: ;;rate gribble 1 notorious for underpredicting difficulty increases
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user gribble has been recorded.
CryptoConsultor: ok I think I got reg with gribble now. Is that assbot going to stop -v me?
mike_c: ;;ident CryptoConsultor
gribble: Nick 'CryptoConsultor', with hostmask 'CryptoConsultor!~Hoodmin@S0106000f66a91966.hn.shawcable.net', is not identified.
peterl: you also have to be in assbot's L2 trust to voice yourself
peterl: ;;gettrust assbot CryptoConsultor
BingoBoingo: dooglus: I assumed you paid him as he claimed, because soon afterwards his confessional went missing (Kingofsports that is)
BingoBoingo: CryptoConsultor: Probably part of the reason is that gribble isn't an eggbot, forked supybot
dooglus: BingoBoingo: I don't remember, but I don't think i would have given him anything
dooglus: BingoBoingo: I published his piece on the blog, and allowed him to put up a donation address
BingoBoingo: dooglus: His confessional may have mentioned Deb instead. I only remember the matter because I at one point sold him some single bitcoins until he got pissy I wouldn't sell him tens and send first at the same time.
assbot: Just-News @ Just-Dice: Gambling Addiction - KOS
dooglus: assbot: that'll be 1 mBTC for reading that post please ;)
Vexual: now theres a man who knows how to gamble
mircea_popescu: <TheNewDeal> does anyone have any intel on who created the WTI bet / why? << intel ?
Vexual: gambling rehab should teach mathematics
peterl: does assbot pay for trilema credits?
Vexual: no, the header is free
peterl: MP gives head for free?
mircea_popescu: mike_c: the blonde bomber better win << don't hate halep just because she is young and eager and in better shape and scrappy
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: "Mr Kyle lost Kylemax IPO funds, will he be dead or alive in 8 months?" << that ain't gonna work.
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: did I understand this correctly that the namecoin network hashrate is sitting at about half that of the bitcoin network? < it's mergemined
mircea_popescu: the correct construction is that "about half bitcoin miners also merge namecoin"
peterl: didn't John Nash have a big breakthrough in math while chasing skirts?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0764989 = 0.3825 BTC [+]
peterl: what, you mean the film does not stay true to the original story? I'm shocked /sarcasm
jborkl: Mircea if you have not been by the site lately. I just finished the diff calculator.
jborkl: And a whole bunch of other shit
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I forgot about ECL. The point is, discrete logic need not be slow. However, at high speeds propagation delay is going to be a serious issue, which implies distributed clockless dataflow design.
decimation: mircea_popescu: Have you seen propaganda related to the Falklands war? It's my understanding that the AR gov't uses it to stir up the masses
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 22 @ 0.02599264 = 0.5718 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07573307 = 0.3787 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 57 @ 0.01981674 = 1.1296 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 27 @ 0.0238 = 0.6426 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00253969 = 0.254 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29 = 1.16 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.28600498 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17105 @ 0.00085348 = 14.5988 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00253995 = 0.254 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07648301 = 0.2294 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07648302 = 0.4589 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.07461028 = 1.0445 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.29 = 2.61 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00085346 = 10.3269 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.02392685 = 0.1675 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07431252 = 0.5202 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0258 = 0.1032 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0743 = 0.5201 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00085292 = 20.1289 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.074 = 0.444 BTC [-]
dub: so much trollin in the btc
assbot: Remember the guy who gambled 50.25 BTC away 1 week ago? : Bitcoin
fluffypony: dooglus: can't you set it up so that when he logs in again to JD it does a 301 to some gambler's anonymous service?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27950 @ 0.00085216 = 23.8179 BTC [-] {4}
dub: help is only a bullet away
cazalla: how would that stop them gambling
cazalla: they had an inquiry on gambling addiction here in australia due to all the degenerates spending their kids lunch money on poker machines
cazalla: result was counselling was a waste of time and money
fluffypony: cazalla: I dunno, I've never known anyone in that situation, so I'm not sure how you stop them
fluffypony: besides a swift kick to the balls every time they want to gamble
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07399999 = 0.148 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.0742654 = 1.1882 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.0201997 = 0.2828 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 100 @ 0.02736326 = 2.7363 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.07461733 = 1.4923 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.074699 = 0.1494 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated]
assbot: BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today
fluffypony: "@fluffyponny @jurov @davout @pankkake please stay out now from this postings, everyone know now that only 4 or 5 guys from
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ IRC chat only claims problems with us how sad is that for you guys, do you not have any work in real life? do you only accuse other companies of scam and more, each forum member looks to your profile history can see that the only people accuse others of scam are a small group talking 24
fluffypony: hours in a IRC chat and think about who is next they can accuse of shit things! Poor very poor!"
pankkake: this is actually accurate. but after all, most things are a scam
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16543 @ 0.00085078 = 14.0745 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: tbh i dont think he knows he is scamming
pankkake: I have a wide definition of scam :) claiming competence while you don't have it = scam
danielpbarron: how sad is that for you guys, do you not have any work in real life? do you only accuse other companies of scam and more << the false teachers make an identical claim; not much difference when it comes to scammers
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 152 @ 0.00248735 = 0.3781 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: Central Bankers Argue Digital Currency Requires Institutional Control
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 125 @ 0.0024 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2}
Apocalyptic: "Instead, they posit that central banks could issue their own digital currencies that would benefit from the institutional backing of a central bank"
pankkake: it's the coindesk/reddit thinking that bitcoin is only about payments, forgetting the digital gold
fluffypony: ;;rate frankenmint 1 OpenRigs customer, and newly appointed /r/bitcoin mod
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user frankenmint has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: decimation: mircea_popescu: Have you seen propaganda related to the Falklands war? It's my understanding that the AR gov't uses it to stir up the masses << english propaganda is generally not to be taken seriously.
mircea_popescu: there's genuine anti english sentiment here, much like there's genuine anti-muslim and anti-indian sentiment in the uk.
mircea_popescu: the governments generally do the best practicable to manage it, the opposition generally accuse the government of pandering
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: dooglus: can't you set it up so that when he logs in again to JD it does a 301 to some gambler's anonymous service? << what's that to help ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I feel bad for the guy
fluffypony: lol Usagi - "You are not capable of doing work on the projects I am working on -- you're not qualified."
mircea_popescu: the vacant stare of the parents, or in other words " the worst thing that could ever have happened to your children is having met you."
mircea_popescu: anyway, *you* don't stop them. you just stop your wife and children from being thesort of retards, and then make *them* live in the most abject conditions available.
assbot: BitcoinBourse: the biggest scam in Bitcoin securities today
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: what's even better is that Usagi quoted BitcoinBourse as a defence
mircea_popescu: "only four or five people that happen to matter in btc finance say im a scammer, because the rest can't be bothered, and so please ignore everything bad you ever hear (about me)"
mircea_popescu: next post, anon guy "fu you owe me money since last year"
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: tbh i dont think he knows he is scamming << seems credible.
mircea_popescu: "Instead, they posit that central banks could issue their own digital currencies that would benefit from the institutional backing of a central bank" <<< in the dreamland they inhabit, where saying makes it so, central bankers can issue currencies which will matter because they say so, and the sec can matter because it's the sec and nobody has to cut a deal with me first or anything.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11877 @ 0.00085348 = 10.1368 BTC [+]
fluffypony: pankkake: I don't get "13991b1bd4d0c6f1c77954128922cb80bda602a7e8c893772e321dd6d6fdfba2"
pankkake: no real reason, it's a hash of the old post contents
gribble: #20705 Sat Jun 7 07:18:31 2014 pankkake SELL 1.0 Bitcointalk script @ 0.1337 BTC (Script to remove or mass edit your bitcointalk posts, comes with unlimited support or can run it for you)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00085232 = 14.1485 BTC [-] {3}
fluffypony: does that take you to the image directly
pankkake: price is based on my support time costs
fluffypony: oh weird - works in Opera, but not in Firefox or Safari
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: wife - if you zoom in you see your messages on IRC
pankkake: there seems to be no rule of editing old posts on .lk either by the way. so if interested, I can write it too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0747 = 0.2241 BTC [+]
assbot: MPEx owner in danger of being extradited to US to face charges | Page 9 | Bitcointa.lk
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2767 = 0.5534 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00239829 = 0.4797 BTC [-]
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gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 653.5, Best ask: 655.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 653.5, 24 hour volume: 8869.22193161, 24 hour low: 635.88, 24 hour high: 662.0, 24 hour vwap: 0
pankkake: interestingly the only one I accused of deleting posts was Goat
mircea_popescu: pankkake what purpose do you suppose adding a hash serves ?
mircea_popescu: proper solution would be to make a gpg key for the forum and sign everything
pankkake: the main purpose is that people wonder what it is :D
assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UNMODERATED] | Page 4 | Bitcointa.lk
mircea_popescu: Sydboy said: ↑ What does it feel like to be so stupid you lose money, or other people money ?usagi : I don't know.
pankkake: the few posts of Goat that were archived show how much he trusted pirate wasn't a ponzi. If you're looking for lulz.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I think Usagi threatened him and he backed down
pankkake: and many other guys that have nice great trust and VIP status
fluffypony: he's suddenly apologised for being so mean or whatever
mircea_popescu: the sec is too bitchy to work towards actually putting the guilty in the can tho.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00085073 = 12.4207 BTC [-] {2}
Apocalyptic: noting, you need someone to give you voice
deanclkclk: so I'm in the process of setting up a crypto exchange in the Caribbean
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27671344 BTC [+]
deanclkclk: fiat trading currencies are USD, CAD, Bahamian Dollar, Trinidad Dollar and Jamaican Dollar
deanclkclk: I'm trying to go through OKPay system for my setup but, they are extremely slow. Anyone knows of an alternative payment processor which gives an Bank Account for wire transfer?
deanclkclk: and also...how can I get trusted by the community ?
deanclkclk: I am aware that there is a trust issue going on here with most exchanges
mircea_popescu: a) get in the wot ; b) spend the next half year to a year reading hte logs
deanclkclk: in case anyone is interested and want to know the services I offer...feel free to ask
assbot: wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki]
pankkake: "We learn the most from our mistakes (myself included!)"
gribble: I currently have notes waiting for agentx24, anarkitty, bakinat, bcb, bitcoingirl, cevidad, congrats, hydruid, Immukization, Immuzikkation, jmcorgan, jtrunerbtc, kyledrake, MurphyLawn, nubbins, nubbins`i, Phinnaeus, and ryepdx.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27671344 = 0.5534 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2767 = 0.8301 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 56 @ 0.00231546 = 0.1297 BTC [-] {7}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2767 = 0.5534 BTC [-]
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0024 = 0.24 BTC [+]
deanclkclk: question mircea_popescu so I have a WOT account..how does it even work in respect to irc chats?
deanclkclk: you recommended this to me around Nov last year
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.0024 = 0.1752 BTC [+]
gribble: Nick 'deanclkclk', with hostmask 'deanclkclk!~deanclkcl@bas10-toronto01-845463865.dsl.bell.ca', is not identified.
deanclkclk: so yeah you did the ident thing and it said I'm not indentifed?
fluffypony: deanclkclk: an entirely different set of identifications
assbot: Beginners Guide - bitcoin-otc wiki
deanclkclk: do I need to have a rating to be known by gribble?
deanclkclk: not sure but, I have this account since last nov
Apocalyptic: probably not, he's talking about the nickserv account
Apocalyptic: -NickServ- Information on deanclkclk (account deanclkclk):
Apocalyptic: -NickServ- Registered : Oct 13 01:14:40 2012 (1 year, 33 weeks, 6 days, 13:53:39 ago)
Apocalyptic: as fluffypony said, this is entirely irrelevant to gribble's auth
assbot: Safe Browsing Tool | WOT (Web of Trust)
pankkake: that's not the same web of trust
fluffypony: deanclkclk: I sent you a link, follow it and read it.
deanclkclk: no need to laugh at a novice gribble novice fluffypony
fluffypony: I'm laughing that you didn't even bother to open the link and read it
deanclkclk: I did actually but, there's a lot of text..sometimes I glance
deanclkclk: but, yeah I spend the time and read ti
assbot: Naming and shaming the AGW fraudsters
deanclkclk: by no means I'm a fraud or came here to defraud anyone pankkake
fluffypony: deanclkclk: that link he posted has nothing to do with you
deanclkclk: plus mircea_popescu offerd to vet my code lol
pankkake: yeah, read the article :D I'm just dumping my daily read
deanclkclk: only if irc is smart enough to log chat between two nicks
pankkake: #bitcoin-assets has public logs
mircea_popescu: pankkake im too lazy to read that, past the chuckle that deanclkclk thought it is about him somehow
deanclkclk: I'll rummage through it one day but, not now. Will get back to you mircea_popescu
fluffypony: maybe he offered to have your code put down at the vote?
mircea_popescu: deanclkclk well as a general rule don't make statements you don't have backing for at the ready.
mircea_popescu: failure usually results in silence, but i guess im in a good mood.
danielpbarron: <+deanclkclk> I did actually but, there's a lot of text..sometimes I glance << what BTC address should I throw my money into! Your company sounds amazing!
deanclkclk: thought you would have remember though if I said it
pankkake: mircea_popescu, that's how I feel towards some of your blog posts :)
fluffypony: deanclkclk: I would expect that too - after all, mircea_popescu only has 1 or 2 conversations a year
deanclkclk: danielpbarron: you're free not to throw money at my company
pankkake: ;;google site:log.bitcoin-assets.com ibm think
deanclkclk: if you guys are looking for the log it's found around November-December last year
deanclkclk: but, it started out with a few members here calling me an "fucking idiot"
davout: 'but, it started out with a few members here calling me an "fucking idiot"' <<< surprise surprise
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fluffypony: I'm truly shocked that anyone here would say such a thing
fluffypony: that certainly doesn't sound eponymous for #bitcoin-assets
davout: ;;later tell mike_c i want a picture of your warface
deanclkclk: surprised that the responses I've gotten today are anything but, unfriendly
mircea_popescu: so i have survived the largest shock in my adult life.
mircea_popescu: do you know what is remarkable about rubbing alcohol here in buenos aires ? the sort sold in pharmacies ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: it's not really alcohol ?
mircea_popescu: it's not denaturated to the degree that the label lists as indications : for rubbing,
davout: mircea_popescu: do you mean you can get a simple chemical without being infantilized away?
mircea_popescu: i mean you could also get it in romania, liter bottles of triple distilled grain alcohol. but in specialist shops.
punkman: yeah pure alcohol is pretty fucking handy
punkman: can get it in supermarkets/pharmacies here, but it costs 9 eur for 250ml now with all the new taxes, ridiculous
mircea_popescu: it's actually a much better (safer) fire starter than gasoline
punkman: I use the denatured stuff for that
punkman: which is like 1eur a liter
mircea_popescu: i don't recall whatexactly burn product of methylen blue is dubious but there was something
punkman: don't need much if you got kindling, burns off in like a couple seconds
punkman: they actually label the denatured stuff as "lamp/lighting" alcohol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07457 = 0.2237 BTC [-]
assbot: Rationamente paraeconomice, sau despre saracie pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.76322672 BTC to 8`244 shares, 21388 satoshi per share
Naphex: so what is the best cure for rage?
Naphex: that will turn me on a killing spree
Naphex: women doh! i got everything else on lock lol
danielpbarron: <+Naphex> so what is the best cure for rage? << if The Bible ain't your thing, try cannabis
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0237999 = 0.1904 BTC [-]
Naphex: danielpbarron: only some crappy marocan brown available
Namworld: cannabis wouldn't work for me. I'm kind of relax naturally. Give me anything that alters my mind and I'm no longer going to be happy.
danielpbarron: Naphex, won't find sympathy from me; the cannabis in my local is probably worse
Namworld: Not that it doesn't have any effect, but because anything that alters my mind and makes it hard for me to think clearly tends to enrage me.
pankkake: walks work for me. last time of great stress I walked around for a few hours
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 110 @ 0.00250616 = 0.2757 BTC [-] {5}
Namworld: Walking is nice. Or cycling. Unless you're downtown in a place with no cycling accomodations. Then no cycling.
punkman: can barely keep the streets paved
punkman: but it's nice when the 4x4 don't try to run me over
Namworld: I wend to Denmark once... so much cycling space, so few cars.
Naphex: mircea_popescu: yeah going for a drive around vienna
punkman: yeah denmark and the netherlands are rather wonderful for cycling
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27 BTC [-]
Naphex: gonna check it out maybe i fins a nice puff place
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.02511077 = 0.2511 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes, generally speaking physical exhaustion. i guess walking can be the same as a spirited bout of skanko-roman wrestling.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27 = 0.54 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00085318 = 2.7302 BTC [+]
Namworld: Reading trilema can be fun. Am I the only one who had some actual success trading shoddy shares? Who else in here managed to trade a profit?
fluffypony: Namworld: I'm too scared to even buy in to shoddy shares
Namworld: It's not too bad when you don't hold large amounts over extended period but flip shares on the large price difference.
Namworld: There's not a lot of that since GLBSE/BitFunder/etc tho
mircea_popescu: Namworld a question a little like "am i the only one who won the lottery"
kakobrekla: early day of glbse, whatever you put your money in was a winner after a week and a complete lose after two.
Namworld: No, of course, but I only hear of failed funds. Certainly some people in here did it with some kind of success? They're just not as public since investing for themselves. Was looking to hear about any such person.
Naphex: google now sends bitbet updates
mircea_popescu: there's people doing this thing with ponzis (politely known as "hyip") where they send money and try to take it back out before everyone else.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, this is actually an offense in the western world.
kakobrekla: yup, except it wasnt a ponzi it was bubblescam
mircea_popescu: Namworld ^ that'd explain to you why they tend to be quiet.
mircea_popescu: always at risk for civil clawback + penal proceedings.
mircea_popescu: "As for substance abuse I'll admit I like to have a few beers, But for the most part I stay off the drugs as of late."
kakobrekla: anyway, people had too much coin at the time
Namworld: Too bad I sunk most of those profits into BitVPS which needed servers and everything to no avail. BTC price rose too much afterward.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.02369589 = 0.237 BTC [-]
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pankkake: Namworld: I had more success trading shit on btctctc than on havecocks
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.27999995 = 7.84 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2799999 = 0.56 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28 = 0.84 BTC [+]
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021714 BTC (Total: 434.28 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021599 / 0.00021725 (15651 shares, 3.38 BTC), 30D: 0.00021536 / 0.00021709 / 0.00021726 (125310 shares, 27.20 BTC)
Namworld: That's why I say there hasn't been as much good arbitrage opportunity. Havelock ain't much good.
Namworld: Funny thing, arbitrage is normally between 2 markets. For BTC, there's a large price difference on a single market.
benkay: <deanclkclk> plus mircea_popescu offerd to vet my code lol // that'd have been me.
benkay: or was that dotcoin...
pankkake: I think it was you and him yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 18 @ 0.02500205 = 0.45 BTC [-] {2}
pankkake: apparently "military grade" is aes-256 cbc, and admin pins are good ideas
pankkake: the most secure part was the package, crappy plastic shell
pankkake: the key itself is nicely built, perfect for a keychain
pankkake: the other secure part is how you need tiny fingers to enter the PIN :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.0198202 = 0.1982 BTC [-]
pankkake: this serves my intended purpose though, making tampering with it harder
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07457 = 0.2237 BTC [-] {2}
Mats_cd03: security through obscurity is a legit layer of defense
Mats_cd03: i hope its not the only one though
pankkake: I don't have anything that is not software encrypted
assbot: BMF has lost access to it's wallet [UnModerated]
benkay: figure out the web of trust yet?
tokyopotato: i tried registering... used multibit wallet address... but gribble wouldn't recognize the authentication
benkay: well i'm having breakfast with a babe atm, so i can't help atm
BingoBoingo: 0.5.11 is the last version I can stand, before too many unfeatures got tacked on...
tokyopotato: i really just needed to have a pubkey for the authentication
mircea_popescu: <pankkake> apparently "military grade" is aes-256 cbc, and admin pins are good ideas << herp
BingoBoingo: tokyopotato: If you have an extra hard drive or machine giving a *nix a try might be useful. I've heard a lot of complaints of GPG4win just not... working...
mircea_popescu: fluffypony Do you have any concept of the moral high ground? You think you've won some kind of game here -- but you have no idea what you lost, do you?
mircea_popescu: whenever some wild eye enthusiast extols "free market" to me ima link them to usagi.
mircea_popescu: in a free market anything goes, right ? including that paralyzing nonsense.
mircea_popescu: soon enough the expense of distinguishing becomes prohibitive, and the society is split : the very rich, who can afford freedom
fluffypony: "I HAVE SO MANY PLANS. SECRET PLANS. AMAZING BUT HIDDEN PLANS. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. YOU. DON'T. EVEN. KNOW. AND YOU COULD'VE HAD A PIECE OF THE ACTION BECAUSE I AM A BENEVOLENT GOD AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU BUT I WOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU A PIECE. AND NOW YOU FUCKED THAT UP. SO SORRY FOR YOU!" - Usagi, 2014
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's more like "you show yourself to be a bad person by arguing with usagi"
benkay: filter the market with capital barriers, then.
fluffypony: you know how they bitch about smoking and they're like "every pack takes 2 days off your lifespan" ?
fluffypony: I feel like arguing with Usagi has taken 2 days off my lifespan.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: I swear the most useful side effect of recommending a 6 month reading and waiting period is to sort out the fucking Dice addicts. << on the first tier fo sho.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: See, I can respect certain kinds of gambling like picky sports betting and BitBet. I can't comprehend people who bet against RNGs though. Seems like the fastest way to provide someone else a steady income.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. You bet though tto prove a point.
BingoBoingo: There's a difference between that and the forumer seeking a fortune.
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BingoBoingo: Hamilton excels at the running game, but no one cares about that. Can't hit.
BingoBoingo: Exciting player for sure... Just not in the right way.
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pankkake: fluffypony, this is probably true. force yourself to log out!
pankkake: and accept that some people are beyond saving
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davout: fluffypony: arguing is only useful if both participants are mature enough to accept that they might have to change their position
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fluffypony: davout: I keep forgetting that I am not worthy to argue with The Great Usagi
assbot: [EMUNIE] Important Announcement: BTC Theft
assbot: Doctor Accidentally Heals Fibromyalgia | Medical Satire - GomerBlog
pankkake: guy can't secure his btc and pretends to create "the next step in cryptographic currency"
mircea_popescu: "By that point I imagine internet bounty hunters finding your whereabouts are the least of your worries.
BingoBoingo: If you diversify a bit EMunie guy can be Kumala
mircea_popescu: the guy now has two options, including comandeering the idiot's accountand posting his masturbatory selfies
mircea_popescu: and also the option to send the internet provider a contract cancellation form
davout: but wait, there's more !
mdev: pankkake> guy can't secure his btc and pretends to create "the next step in cryptographic currency"
mircea_popescu: "What awaits you is an existence where you dare not raise your head above water, for the fear of someone, somewhere waiting with a golden axe. I am a calculated man with resources, who can be cunning when needs to be, and I will use all resources that I have to track you down, and I will start with those gold axe's."
pankkake: mdev: look at the bitcointalk link
assbot: Doctor Accidentally Heals Fibromyalgia | Medical Satire - GomerBlog
assbot: [EMUNIE] Important Announcement: BTC Theft
mdev: oon after these attacks the assailants gained access to several online services I control, and most certainly had some form of access to 1 or more machines on my home network and also our remote servers.
mdev: i don't get how flooding gives someone access
fluffypony: pankkake: the "next step" they refer to is "giving everyone access to our funds"
BingoBoingo: mdev: Fibromyalgia is a famous diagnosis of "we can't find anything wrong" that many medical professionals assume to be malingerers and drug seekers.
mircea_popescu: mdev it's the forum. it doesn't have to make sense, words connote feeling and feeling is all ambitious young folk need.
mdev: he's talking about 600 BTC stolen being "spilled milk"
mdev: whatever, that's a trmeendous amont of coins
mircea_popescu: a) it's peanuts for an actual business ; b) he never had 100 let alone 600.
assbot: [EMUNIE] Important Announcement: BTC Theft
mircea_popescu: no, actually, fibromyalgia is non specific pain sundrome
mircea_popescu: so pretty much "guy is either insane, addicted or annyoing"
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Some people with the diagnosis move to actual diagnoses. But yeah, the use of the label makes it worthless.
mdev: he just brushed off like "spilled milk"
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fluffypony: darlidada: you still keen on taking on that #bitcoin-assets synopsis / archiving project?
assbot: #bitcoin-assets [GLBSE/MPEX] now or IRC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.02699967 = 0.243 BTC [+]
FabianB: hm, coinbr proxy works for me
FabianB: lol, why are they even still trying?
mircea_popescu: well, kids are born poor but by the time they reach adolescence they become (at least in their estimation) strong.
darlidada: <+fluffypony> darlidada: you still keen on taking on that #bitcoin-assets synopsis / archiving project? --- yes i'm sitll up for it
fluffypony: he doesn't have 8 hours a day right now, but he'll get there
fluffypony: imho the collection of knowledge is worthwhile
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31291 @ 0.00085187 = 26.6559 BTC [-] {2}
darlidada: mircea_popescu: i've done 3 years in philosophy so far; a bit of accounting/economy before but i wasnt really into it so i forgot most of it. i'm one of these brain-damaged kids you write about. i'm doing my best to cure myself though
fluffypony: so you cure yourself through accumulating knowledge :)
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo don't sel them short, feminists accomplished some spectacular blowjobs this year.
BingoBoingo: darlidada: Which is your favorite of Descartes, Spinoza, and Leibitz
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But the dude feminist explained the clit exists...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Like racehorses. Also getting a feel for what someone feels most comfortable reading.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37959 @ 0.00084855 = 32.2101 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: my favourite philosopher is Douglas Adams
fluffypony: I wonder if pankkake's ramblings count as philosophy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.02382 = 0.1191 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: With that question I take two answers as meaningless, one as a suggestion the answerer should be sent to the LISP mines
BingoBoingo: Because in three decades if I get a pacemaker I'll be damned if it runs unix
mircea_popescu: one of the best things about open space style office and these chairs on rollers they do nowadays
mircea_popescu: also run over chicks in open toe sandals, but hey. no pain no gain.
davout: mircea_popescu: "also run over chicks in open toe sandals" <<< ouch
fluffypony: danielpbarron: I replied to the fucktard on that thread as well
darlidada: BingoBoingo: it would be spinoza, but I dont know him that well; its the joy of reading Plato's logos and the joy of reading nietzsche psychological depth that really brought me into philosophy; nowadays it is more political philosophy and logic that i am interested in, the first because it helps me understanding the world i live in, the second because it cures my mind from the
darlidada: contradiction the era i grew up in
darlidada: i read the 3rd chapter of "On religion" by schopenhauer yesterday. It was a nice discovery from reading mircea_popescu blog:)
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: see! he's perfect for this project.
darlidada: Nietzsche has the same view than Schopenhauer on books too. I think I read too much for my own health.
mircea_popescu: davout well what, they should wear platforms like decent sluts.
mircea_popescu: but yes, schopenhauer is under rated because "romantic"
fluffypony: ok darlidada - I will make sure you have a platform to start your work by Wednesday, sound good?
darlidada: fluffypony: I wont truly be available before the 1rst of july b
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I want daily synopsis + dictionary
fluffypony: darlidada: I know, no need for major commitment till after 1st July
mircea_popescu: imo the fewer platforms the better, as a general philosophy.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: not nicely; I played with mediawiki a bit, not happy with it
mircea_popescu: the very concept of "platform" is predicatred onm there not being many of them. imagine if there's 500 platforms, the whole thing looks about as flat as chinatown
pankkake: I read Schopenhauer for the insults, and Douglas Adams for the philosophy
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: remember, though, I'm throwing money at this in the hope that at some stage someone will go "oh shit, tome of all knowledge, take my dogecoin plc"
pankkake: TarMi!~3d3d@5.79.71.195 has quit: Quit: MIRCEA POPESCU IS AN ASSHOLE! < for those who hide quits
mircea_popescu: fluffypony so you seriously expect to monetize PUBLISHED summaries of assets ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I expect to monetise tl;dr's :)
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, this isn't communist Romania
pankkake: but I'll probably eventually ebook it myself
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mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic no but i mean... so someone buys it and publishes it on his site. now what.
Apocalyptic: mircea, good question, I was being sarcastic
davout: "so someone buys it and publishes it on his site. now what." <<< same goes for trilema
davout: indeed, that doesn't really change the point
mircea_popescu: moreover, wouldn't it perhaps be more productive to come up with some sort of way of monetizing the wiki if that's the point ?
mircea_popescu: i mean, merely the monetization issue is not in fact a good answer to "why make moar platforms"
davout: you did not refrain from implementing credits because someone could theoretically come up with freelema, right?
mircea_popescu: davout i happen to have this comfortable situation where if someone pisses me off i can actually bury them in legal paper.
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: but surely it depends on *what* you're monetising
TarMi: Mircea is an asshole!
fluffypony: TarMi: I know, right, he's a real cock head
mircea_popescu: fluffypony which is why i said, trilema and ba summaries aren't really thesame thing
mircea_popescu: you'd think he caught me while i was doing his mom or something
davout: mircea_popescu: that sounds like it'd be much more costly to the target than to the attacker
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: so analysis of Trilema articles would be open, right? it doesn't preclude credits to the source
davout: i mean burying someone in legal papers would be costly to you, and it would be easy to work around
mircea_popescu: fluffypony well, original content is generally one thing, derivative content is generally iffy.
davout: or on tor, or whatever, we're digressing here, my point is that monetizing convenience is something i think can make sense
mircea_popescu: definitely, but then making a myriad platforms is anti convenience
davout: fluffypony make a blog with summaries, use credits
fluffypony: yeah but fuckit - I'll host it somewhere and kakobrekla can cname analysis.bitcoin-assets.com
mircea_popescu: cause you know, everyone's gonna make one, cause there's nothing easier in the world, exactly the sort of busywork unemplyed webcoders love, and then they'll compete and then before you know it you won't be able to be friends anymore.
fluffypony: my thinking was WordPress with a "dictionary" plugin that picks up words in posts and links them to "definitions"
mircea_popescu: iirc i said something then but i don't recall what or how itwent
fluffypony: pankkake: wiki links to other articles are not automatic tho
fluffypony: pankkake: either or - I still don't think that letting all-and-sundry edit is good
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fluffypony: I want darlidada to maintain a "guardian of knowledge" role
mircea_popescu: thinking about it, you basically want him to run a blog
fluffypony: yes - but the key here is analysis and synopsis
fluffypony: and it's not to give noobs a lurk-free path
mircea_popescu: yeah. platform threw me, but srsly, yu just want to make a blog.
darlidada: its true that knowledge is disseminated everywhere, but to be fair trilema bitcoin section already does a very nice job
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: yep - a blog post for every day that #bitcoin-assets has existed
fluffypony: once darlidada gets to like June last year he's going to have to dip into personal logs
darlidada: how should we sort the stuff that happens ? should we sum up everything even random fluff?
darlidada: even on #bitcoin-assets, there is a chat hierarchy, there are chat logs that are important to sum up and chat logs that are just fluff
mircea_popescu: <fluffypony> random fluff is the best << except the mp theorem is that "bitcoin-assets is the shortest packing possible of all the information it contains".
mircea_popescu: so i bet you if you do all the fluff your summaries will exceed the space of the log, prolly 3x
fluffypony: so the entry for "Mircea Popescu" won't be repeated per-day
mircea_popescu: and if you're notwilling to compromise some words will be book length
fluffypony: and it will grow as he gets through the logs
fluffypony: for this I'd hope some entries are extraordinarily long
fluffypony: darlidada: I hope your book-writing skills are up to scratch :-P
darlidada: fluffypony wants me to become a philosopher like the one from the french enlightment whereas i wanna become a free spirit like rousseau, though now that i am into bitcoin, im not sure about his love for the demos anymore ;<
fluffypony: on the contrary, I want you to become a cartographer ;)
darlidada: interesting, so you want me to map every person and every event within the bitcoin world
darlidada: bitcoin asset is our santa maria ;p
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c let me know once you approve my comment so i know it hasn't just been swallowed up by the machine and can erase the pasted version i've saved just in case.
fluffypony: darlidada: yes - clever tags will provide a map
fluffypony: this needs a curator - multiple, disparate, dispassionate, uninterested curators don't work
mircea_popescu: well i'm sure that multiple passionate, disparate, interested curators will work too :)
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fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I'm not against the approach, but I think this needs a more unified approach to prevent a more unified view
fluffypony: once everything is "there" it's different
fluffypony: but consistency is critical during the initial load
Guest20889: mircea_popescu: The amazing thing about the unfuckable is the variety of ways they can inhere that property.
mircea_popescu: could be the net worth graph of pretty much any forum investment
mircea_popescu: . Just fucks me off when I see super rich fucks chuck their money around like confetti. Fiat or bitcoin. ( and yes bit of jealousy, but if I was that rich I would share the wealth in a more meaningful way)
mircea_popescu: that's not how you get to be rich. rich people are hated, because they are supposed to be hated. No one has ever gotten elitist rich by following the rules or being nice.
sedeki: mircea_popescu looking for a python developer?
mircea_popescu: someonewaslooking forsomething but i forgot who. fluffy maybe ?
sedeki: mircea_popescu i have a hunch you follow interesting blogs. do you want to share?
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mircea_popescu: "I leave aside the confusion absence of evidence/evidence of absence--and the misunderstanding of the very notion of "empiricism". It is a fact that in the real world of our daily decision-making 1) we do not have much evidence of most relevant things, yet we need to take action; 2) in most situations, "true/false" is never symmetric (one side is more harmful than the other), so the burden of evidence is one-sided. Which
mircea_popescu: kes "doing science" lose their tenures after the endowments (and charity) run out of funds, they will be barely fit to do anything in the real-life ecology. I wonder what you can do with an unemployed, say, academic orthodox economist. You could do better with non-post-academic cab drivers. Clearly those the most fit at dealing with "just evidence" will be idiot savants outside their evidence domain."
mircea_popescu: this guy is like me, except older and givingmore of a shit.
mircea_popescu: "So let me take this into more interesting territory, and express my anti-social-planner views. Even more that in Hayek's days, the ecology of the real world is becoming too complex for Aristotelian logic: very, very little of what we do can be safely formalized, meaning asymmetries matter more than ever. Which puts the Western World today at the most dangerous point in its history: unless we get the Bernanke-Summers cro
mircea_popescu: ill eventually be destroyed by the machinery of arrogant, formal-thinking civil servants, and Ivy-league semi-retards."
mircea_popescu: "Finally, beyond the current mess, I see no way out of this ecological problem, except through that tacit, unexplainable, seasoned, thoughtful, and aged thing crystalized by traditions & religions --we can't live without charts and we need to rely on the ones we've used for millennia. Le 21e siecle sera religieux, ou ne sera pas!" << someone needs to shout bitcoin at him in such a way that he understands wtf we do here.
mircea_popescu: "We prohibit under anathema that murderous art of crossbowmen and archers, which is hateful to God"
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Mats_cd03: youre intent on world domination huh
mircea_popescu: "So, by tinkering, I figured out that I fare best under the following conditions: no breakfast, working out randomly (but in a lumpy way: long walks & intense weight lifting without a scheduled time limit), "working" randomly, fasting when working out, avoiding modern carbs (and modernized fruits), avoiding contact with economists and finance idiots, taking red eye flights & fasting during episodes of jet lag and similar
mircea_popescu: "Having a risk number is not trivial. It does lead you to do foolish things, even if you knew that the measure was wrong. If I can show that, many people [who offered quantitative risk measures in finance] will have to be held accountable –& I can show that! One of Fannie Mae director’s, a quack & proponent of “Modern Finance” charlatanism, kept promoting “scientific” risk measurement methodologies that do not measure ri
mircea_popescu: ately, but lead people to TAKE MORE RISK foolishly thinking they know something. [This is the reason I singled out Fannie Mae in The Black Swan as a firm sitting on dynamite & the International Association of Financial Engineers as a society of snake oil vendors harmful to society]. After > 1 trillion in losses I can safely say that my statement that the banking system has been taking more risks than they thought SHOULD
mircea_popescu: or, "why forum rating agencies are stupid and people will fucking hang for it"
mircea_popescu: "So I hold that giving someone a bad risk measure was just as CRIMINAL as giving someone the wrong medicine. For a long time nobody sanctioned doctors who poisoned their patients. Why don’t we take on the proponents of quantitative risk management, put them in jail so they stop harming us?"
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mircea_popescu: Un vieil homme du nom de Chunglang, qui signifie « Maître des rochers », possédait un petit lopin de terre dans les montagnes. Un jour, il perdit l’un de ses chevaux. Des voisins vinrent alors lui exprimer leurs condoléances pour ce malheur. Mais le vieil homme leur demanda : « Pourquoi pensez-vous que cela soit un malheur ? » Et voilà que quelques jours plus tard l’animal revint, suivi d’une horde de chevaux sauvages. À
mircea_popescu: au les voisins apparurent, pour le féliciter cette fois-ci de cette aubaine. Mais le vieil homme leur rétorqua : « Pourquoi pensez-vous que cela soit un aubaine ? » Les chevaux étant devenus très nombreux, le fils du vieil homme se prit de passion pour l’équitation, mais un beau jour il se cassa la jambe. Alors, encore une fois, les voisins vinrent présenter leurs condoléances et à nouveau le vieil homme leur rétorqua :
mircea_popescu: uoi pensez-vous que cela soit un accident malheureux ? » L’année suivante, la commission des Grands Flandrins arriva dans la montagne. Elle recrutait des hommes forts pour devenir valets de pied de l’empereur et porter la chaise de celui-ci. Le fils du vieil homme, toujours blessé à la jambe, ne fut pas choisi.