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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16085 @ 0.00088902 = 14.2999 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00089144 = 10.6527 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: sale's over!
benkay: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/527746/how-advanced-socialbots-have-infiltrated-twitter/
assbot: How Advanced Socialbots Have Infiltrated Twitter | MIT Technology Review
benkay: "That suggests that Twitter users are unable to distinguish between posts generated by humans and by bots."
asciilifeform: i suspect that most twitter users cannot distinguish between their arse and their elbow.
benkay: pretty much.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 268 @ 0.00049153 = 0.1317 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.03173594 = 0.476 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.0316398 = 0.1582 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 15 @ 0.03102006 = 0.4653 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 18 @ 0.031 = 0.558 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 617.57, Best ask: 618.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.33000, Last trade: 618.9, 24 hour volume: 22478.28160686, 24 hour low: 568.56, 24 hour high: 629.4, 24 hour vwap: 0
mircea_popescu: bitstein, refresh my memory, what do you run again ?
bitstein: Satoshi Nakamoto Institute - http://nakamotoinstitute.org/
assbot: Satoshi Nakamoto Institute
bloctoc: I hereby run the Charles Shrem Institute
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 5 @ 0.03000001 = 0.15 BTC [-]
bloctoc: which makes me charges l'affaires
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25738574 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 618.9, vol: 22588.58377934 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 606.218, vol: 13330.08831 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 620.9, vol: 23275.49746798 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 612.63, vol: 0 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 610.410068, vol: 7157.83650000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 616.0802, vol: 18.17342865 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 618.9836, vol: 163.46928348 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 616.144878149
BingoBoingo: Why is it crashing???
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25013283 = 0.5003 BTC [-]
benkay: hey JorgePasada you coming to the next pdx-together?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25011663 = 0.5002 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 617.56, Best ask: 617.67, Bid-ask spread: 0.11000, Last trade: 617.59, 24 hour volume: 22515.13048547, 24 hour low: 568.56, 24 hour high: 629.4, 24 hour vwap: 0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 3 @ 0.03389934 = 0.1017 BTC [+]
benkay: http://www.dazeddigital.com/photography/gallery/17802/1/the-enclave
assbot: The Enclave | Dazed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25738574 BTC [+]
benkay: http://500px.com/photo/70360863/gwen-purple-double-exposure-ii-by-chill-?from=user
assbot: Gwen, purple double exposure II by Chill | 500px
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.25061112 = 4.511 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.0975 = 0.4875 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26883594 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25100002 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !t m f.mpif
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 / 0.00021726 (9529 shares, 2.07 BTC), 30D: 0.000215 / 0.00021551 / 0.00021726 (667097 shares, 143.77 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.25075 = 1.003 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: !up starsoccer
benkay: how's it going, sir?
starsoccer: thanks
starsoccer: i guess
benkay: ma'am, w/e
benkay: what brings you by?
benkay: pf nm i don't know why your handle struck me as unfamiliar
starsoccer: nah i ussually idle here
starsoccer: tho I am new to idling here
starsoccer: lol
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot starsoccer
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user starsoccer: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=starsoccer | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=starsoccer | Rated since: Sat May 12 23:07:51 2012
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14619 @ 0.00088479 = 12.9347 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: ;;gettrust joecool
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user joecool: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=joecool | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=joecool | Rated since: Thu Apr 28 14:23:15 2011
benkay: hm
BingoBoingo: Pretty sure this is a cue that your frat isn't worth it http://gawker.com/14-bros-charged-in-fraternity-hazing-that-cost-a-pledge-1583983163
assbot: 14 Bros Charged in Fraternity Hazing That Cost a Pledge One Testicle
benkay: fraternaties are awesome
benkay: i think they should give fraternaties lots of guns
benkay: fraternities*
BingoBoingo: I never really got the appeal.
benkay: and then incite arbitrary hatred between them instead of the nominally long-standing tradition of 'service'
benkay: which is just slumming with a smile anyways
BingoBoingo: So apparently XFCE is supposed to have a theme called "stellar" which replicates the characteristics of CDE on Solaris. I can't seem to find it.
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/05/30/harvard_grads_say_i_went_to_college_in_boston_and_call_it_the_h_bomb_get.html
assbot: Harvard grads say "I went to college in Boston"? And call it the H-Bomb? Get over yourselves, Ivy Leaguers.
BingoBoingo: It's obvious they are merely afraid of embarrassing the Alma Mater
benkay: "If, on the other hand, you refuse to tell someone you went to Harvard, that reflects poorly on you—it implies that, on some level, you buy into the overblown mythos of Harvard and the presumption of Ivy League superiority."
benkay: "if he does eventually find out you went to Yale, he will be offended that you have judged him incapable of gracefully handling that fact." i mean probably he couldn't have
BingoBoingo: I just take such polite evasions as personal concessions they could not honor the history of their Alma Mater due to personal fail
joecool: !gettrust benkay
joecool: ;;gettrust benkay
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Trust relationship from user joecool to user benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=joecool&dest=benkay | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=benkay | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013
benkay: i ain't nearly so cool
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 613.2, Best ask: 615.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 615.22, 24 hour volume: 23320.92142408, 24 hour low: 568.56, 24 hour high: 629.4, 24 hour vwap: 0
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27149798 BTC [+]
benkay: why is it crashing?
BingoBoingo: benkay: Imma guessing the dollar is crashing because of the recent Hilary pumping
benkay: http://bitbet.us/bet/807/hillary-clinton-to-announce-us-presidential-bid-in/
assbot: BitBet - Hillary Clinton to announce US Presidential bid in 2014 :: 1.19 B (76%) on Yes, 0.38 B (24%) on No | closing in 6 months 4 weeks | weight: 85`628 (100`000 to 1)
benkay: the evening calls, folks. adieu!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27149808 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2525001 = 1.01 BTC [-] {3}
cazalla: that's such a good bet that one
cazalla: easy no bet
BingoBoingo: ;;genrate 2000
gribble: The expected generation output, at 2000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 10455720138.5, is 9.61973943009e-05 BTC per day and 4.00822476254e-06 BTC per hour.
BingoBoingo: Looks like an interesting device for ATC mining http://www.amazon.com/BITMAIN-ANTMINER-U2-Bitcoin-Overclockable/dp/B00ITD5NV6
assbot: Amazon.com: BITMAIN ANTMINER U2 2Gh/s USB Bitcoin ASIC Miner. Overclockable: Computers & Accessories
BingoBoingo: I like how 1 GH/s is officially under $10, I wonder how long until under $1
BingoBoingo: Also http://www.amazon.com/Bitfury-Twin-Chip-Bitcoin-Miner/dp/B00JCABMSI/ref=pd_sim_pc_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=07018ZXFNMX0Q28D6AR9
assbot: Amazon.com: Bitfury Twin Chip Asic Bitcoin 4-5 Gh/s USB Miner: Computers & Accessories
BingoBoingo: Around ~10 per gh/s
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ever see film 'war games' ?
asciilifeform: 'the only winning move is - not to play'
dub: i have the wargames soundtrack on vinyl
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 85 @ 0.0024 = 0.204 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Indeed
BingoBoingo: I imagine it is more profitable now to hedge difficulty Bitbets with a mining farm than vice versa
BingoBoingo: I also like the War Games knockoff, 'Manhattan Project' with the guy who played an alien in a sitcom
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 729 @ 0.0001438 = 0.1048 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0225 = 0.1125 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Battle of Clickbait empires http://gawker.com/working-at-vice-media-is-not-as-cool-as-it-seems-1579711577 vs http://www.vice.com/pages/response
assbot: Working at Vice Media Is Not As Cool As It Seems
assbot: VICE to Gawker: Fuck You and Fuck Your Garbage Click-Bait 'Journalism' | VICE United States
BingoBoingo: Web longevity http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm
assbot: Space Jam
BingoBoingo: Well, so far playing with OpenBSD I have to say one of my favorite parts is the error messages, danielpbarron can you corroberate this?
BingoBoingo: !up darlidada
BingoBoingo: !up tych0
BingoBoingo: !up PoUpA
BingoBoingo: !up Pucilowski
BingoBoingo: !up random_cat
BingoBoingo: !up mius
BingoBoingo: !up nii236|RPi
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 617.04, Best ask: 619.67, Bid-ask spread: 2.63000, Last trade: 619.67, 24 hour volume: 23732.26557443, 24 hour low: 568.56, 24 hour high: 629.4, 24 hour vwap: 0
BingoBoingo: ;;stamplag
gribble: Error: "stamplag" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: ;;goxlag
gribble: Error: "goxlag" is not a valid command.
joecool: ;;lag
gribble: Error: "lag" is not a valid command.
joecool: goxlag was a pro feature
decimation: http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/30/motorola-texas-plant-shutdown/
assbot: Motorola to close its Moto X plant in Texas by the end of the year
decimation: "Motorola's intention was to offset the inherently higher cost of manufacturing in the US, compared with places like China, by being able to get handsets to customers quicker, and manage the Moto Maker customization process on home turf. But, despite churning out 100,000 Moto Xs a week at one point and progressively making the handset cheaper, the 'born in the USA' vision hasn't paid dividends."
decimation: I think the bottom line is that the Chinese government is far more willing to subsidize electronics manufacturing than the US is
BingoBoingo: decimation: The problem many electronics manufacturers have is they can't pull a Texas instruments and marginally increment their cash cows twice a decade
BingoBoingo: Problem is similar to the one killing AsicMiner
decimation: well, in this case the "cash cow" was just window dressing on chinese manufacturing anyway
decimation: and they failed to make that work. Or... the Chinese overlords in Lenovo took umbarage at the competition
decimation: loltron: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/05/29/dish-network-to-accept-bitcoin/
decimation: an interesting podcast: http://www.theamphour.com/196-an-interview-with-mike-englehardt-spice-simulator-synteresis/
assbot: An Interview with Mike Engelhardt - SPICE Simulator Synteresis | The Amp Hour Electronics Podcast
decimation: the interviewer is not the best... but the guest is interesting. Apparently LTspice compiles its own custom assembly code when you run a simulation.
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well in TI's case their cash cow are those calculators which sell based on their approval for varying tests (much in the way old Unix and crypto survives on FIPS, et al)
decimation: lol surely the calculator division isn't what's supporting TI these days
asciilifeform: decimation: i've very little respect for the ltspice fellow. he leads by example - the ancient tradition of 90% of usable electronics tools being winblows turdware.
asciilifeform: it is a plague.
decimation: when asked about that point, he said that he was developing on winblows because "that's what everyone uses"
asciilifeform: naturally.
decimation: there is an amusing moment when the interviewer asks "why don't you put your spice on a server for remote users" and he went on a rant about how that would not be benficial
decimation: he said people in Linear are perfectly happy to wait 6 hours for a simulation to run
decimation: The interviewer didn't ask why you can't make a baby in 1 month with 9 women
asciilifeform: geological runtimes are the unquestioned norm in winblows engineering tools.
decimation: right, he explained that he just "goes and buys the latest core i7 and the latest asus motherboard and that's the spec machine for the year"
BingoBoingo: decimation: Given the volume of production who much can a Ti-83,89, or 36 really cost per unit?
decimation: He did make an interesting point though - no one sells actually useful simulation tools
decimation: for the same reason that no one sells actually useful mining gear
decimation: http://investor.ti.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=779482
assbot: TI Investor Relations - TI reports 2Q13 financial results and shareholder returns
decimation: apparently the DLP® products, custom ASIC products, calculators, royalties and legacy wireless products is about 30% of TI's revenue
asciilifeform: ti makes an astounding variety of components that are found in just about everything.
decimation: it is interesting how TI has managed to stumble into 2014 as a profitable hardware manufacturer
decimation: I wonder what portion of their profit comes from selling to USG and friends
asciilifeform: pop open virtually any pc, you'll find at least a few ti parts.
asciilifeform: if only a voltage regulator.
decimation: The ltspice guy said that over half of Linear's revenue was in power regulators
asciilifeform: they're ubiquitous.
BingoBoingo: TI has some safety as foundry for certain kinds of applications that demand US made parts
decimation: right, as in USG and friends
BingoBoingo: Well, you can't put a Lenovo chip that refuses to target the forbidden city in a Tomohawk missile...
asciilifeform: re: u.s. electronics: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2014&bots=true#552471
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
decimation: sure you can: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/counterfeit-chinese-parts-slipping-us-military-aircraft-senate/story?id=16403599
assbot: Counterfeit Chinese Parts Slipping Into U.S. Military Aircraft: Senate Report - ABC News
decimation: Right, so my point about nest, TI, Renesas, etc is that the USG currently subsidizes the electronics industry through direct purchases
BingoBoingo: decimation: Only works if you have the bezzel points to avoid gasenwagen
decimation: wheras the Chinese subsidize electronics manufacturing wholeheartedly
decimation: which system is "free market"?
BingoBoingo: decimation: Congo's
BingoBoingo: You take the raw materials and sell them into the best bexxel for your purposes
decimation: The USG doesn't take kindly to buying "conflict minerals"
asciilifeform: every grab of the planet's crust is 'conflict mineral.'
asciilifeform: *gram
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well not diamonds. Other materials are negotiable.
asciilifeform: and every drop of sea water.
decimation: but the USG has employed many to define the undefinable
decimation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_resource
assbot: Conflict resource - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
decimation: The regulations were proposed on December 15, 2010, and published in the Federal Register of December 23, 2010[25] would require U.S. and certain foreign companies to report and make public the use of so-called "conflict minerals" from the Democratic Republic of the Congo or adjoining countries in their products. blah blah
BingoBoingo: US still has war trophies in active use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Eagle_%28WIX-327%29
assbot: USCGC Eagle (WIX-327) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mircea_(ship)
assbot: Mircea (ship) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
asciilifeform: ^ same model
decimation: https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/all-the-creeps-are-cheering/ USG & friends don't look kindly on the actual humans in Congo trying to do something about their situation
assbot: Congo: All the Creeps Are Cheering
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I was waiting for that
BingoBoingo: I thought it would take longer for someone to link the good ship Mircea
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-mining-update-0530/
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/dish-network-accepting-bitcoin/
BingoBoingo: So the more I look at travel to conference V3, the more it looks like the only part drawing my interest in traveling is the Darien gap.
BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630807.0
assbot: Coinbase Cheating on my BTC as price fluctuates
asciilifeform: afaik coinbase is famous for this. works as printed on the box: 'we fuck you raw.'
BingoBoingo: Still, it is interesting to see the infinite hitpoints in action.
BingoBoingo: http://sploid.gizmodo.com/crazy-guys-perform-amateur-demolition-on-100-foot-tower-1583918610
assbot: Amateurs demolish 100-foot tower using power tool, almost get crushed
asciilifeform: http://sploid.gizmodo.com/these-grown-women-are-about-to-see-their-own-vaginas-fo-1583732505
assbot: Adult women react to seeing their own vagina for the first time
asciilifeform: ^ from same link
BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YVKu2gLvQLQ
assbot: Silo Demolition by hammer - YouTube
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You seem to always get all of the interesting related links
asciilifeform: since i generally avoid the 'redditum' birdcage liner, senses stay sharp
BingoBoingo: Ah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2713864 = 0.8142 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Actual video of the demolition as opposed to gif suggest Western Kentucky accents
BingoBoingo wonders why kentucky hicks would know of Belarus
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27138587 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo also wonders if I commit to crossing darien by foot if a BitBet relating to Bingo captured by militia (FARC or the others) might be in order...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: One of the links suggested to me on the Vag article http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/unmasking-the-columbia-rivers-mysterious-stealth-boats-1583093889/+kcampbelldollaghan
assbot: Unmasking The Columbia River's Mysterious Stealth Boats
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27136129 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 219 @ 0.00223607 = 0.4897 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: re coinbase (BingoBoingo, asciilifeform): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630807.msg7022319#msg7022319
assbot: Coinbase Cheating on my BTC as price fluctuates
BingoBoingo: benkay: Most poorly kept secret in BTC is that Coinbase cheats on price swings
BingoBoingo: benkay: Do you have a favored *nix desktop environment or window manager?
benkay: i am a slave to os x
benkay: i mostly use emacs as a crappy lispy wrapper around higher-order *nix functionality
benkay: irc, code nagivation, text editing, email, en/decryption facilities, rss...
BingoBoingo: One of my larger regrets about undergrad other than not taking further comp sci classes is not mastering emacs, seems to have everything...
BingoBoingo is really thinking MP was on to something about my needing to find a cleaner class of girl
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00210002 = 0.21 BTC [-]
benkay: i've been considering trying xmonad for window mgmt, but i don't actually want to spend more time farting around with more distractions atm
benkay: also xmonad implies i'll be learning haskell, wrapping my brain around whatever crazy pretzels those assholes have constructure...
benkay: constructed*
BingoBoingo: This past week I got pretty good at cwm, tonight I mastered xfce
BingoBoingo: benkay: Isn't haskel really just the C# of Lisp?
BingoBoingo: c# being an algol dialect
benkay: i have zero idea.
benkay: <-- self-taught computer amateur
benkay: the only fact i have in the sea of fud that is computer is that lisp-like stuff is kinda ok
BingoBoingo: Similar, but I haven't like an apple os since a/ux or OS 7.01
benkay: it is the rock of my outlook on computer which is meager in a vast and stormy sea of chaos
benkay: i'm trying to take as little a dependency on the apple os as possible
benkay: it may be self-sabotage under the hood, as i run a 'mobile interaction software development shop'
BingoBoingo: benkay: If you ever try hipster computing A/UX on the SE/30 is actually nice, pleasant
benkay: *gag*
benkay: (i kid, it's great. we build great shit for cool people all the time.)
benkay: fuck
benkay: hipster
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 61 @ 0.00201004 = 0.1226 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: computing
BingoBoingo: benkay: It's what I grew up on
BingoBoingo: During college Windows dulled me
benkay: i have vague memories of sitting on my father's lap and hitting the space bar in a game where we were looking for gems in a starfield or some such
benkay: the space bar triggered the self-destruct, which was better than getting got by the in-game baddies?
benkay: i have zero clue.
BingoBoingo: benkay: This was one of several machines I picked up in middle school from school auction at $10 per machine
BingoBoingo: Also the only one of the batch that I am sad that it produced magic smoke
BingoBoingo: Mail order catalog helped me put 128 MB of ram in it...
Naphex: morning
BingoBoingo: I have a maybe bad habit of spending more on parts than I do on computers
BingoBoingo: morning Naphex
Naphex: what's happenin
benkay: diff about to fall off a cliff apparently
BingoBoingo: Bastille day bet is more dangerous than ever to take though.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 112 @ 0.00200274 = 0.2243 BTC [-] {3}
benkay: http://bitbet.us/bet/866/bitcoin-over-1000-before-september/#c2960 << quoiiiiiiiiiiii
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin over $1000 before September :: 2.26 B (63%) on Yes, 1.31 B (37%) on No | closing in 2 months 3 weeks | weight: 94`201 (100`000 to 1)
BingoBoingo: Especially at this low weight
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25237444 BTC [-]
benkay: http://bitbet.us/bet/609/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall/ << although mr market disagrees
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall :: 6.66 B (17%) on Yes, 33.04 B (83%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 6 days | weight: 9`687 (100`000 to 1)
benkay: maybe just dd/dt stops freaking out or something more subtle
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0975 = 1.2675 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Well last adjustment was over 18%, but... it takes more and more hash to keep pushing difficulty
benkay: maybe diff doesn't actually fall, but the rate of increase in diff per time maybe does.
BingoBoingo: At some point it seems inevitable, but... BTC has a lot of untested territory still to test.
joecool: ;;diffchange
gribble: Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 4.94192 % based on data since last change | 6.98341 % based on data for last three days
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.25231758 = 4.5417 BTC [-] {7}
BingoBoingo: I really think people are underpricing the things that could lead to Brock resigning http://bitbet.us/bet/854/brock-pierce-to-resign-at-btc-foundation/#c2974?ref=16wAZSsL8BFNFM8WCsrE8pwwFkhDErWiok
assbot: BitBet - Brock Pierce to resign at BTC Foundation :: 0.3 B (3%) on Yes, 10.08 B (97%) on No | closing in 2 months 3 weeks | weight: 86`742 (100`000 to 1)
benkay: you underestimate how foul the foundation is
BingoBoingo: benkay: They hung Shrem for his Bong while Ve-suckadick still leads...
BingoBoingo: Oh, benkay also, how do you like the blog's new look... Or did I ask already?
BingoBoingo: !up Dimsler
benkay: http://bitbet.us/bet/867/x-eur-contract-monthly-renewal-canceled-in-2014/ // at least mircea_popescu threw down on http://bitbet.us/bet/859/cardano-to-ship-in-2014/ , davout
assbot: BitBet - X.EUR contract monthly renewal canceled in 2014 :: 0.44 B (88%) on Yes, 0.06 B (12%) on No | closing in 6 months 4 weeks | weight: 97`586 (100`000 to 1)
assbot: BitBet - Cardano to Ship in 2014 :: 1.08 B (98%) on Yes, 0.02 B (2%) on No | closing in 6 months 4 weeks | weight: 95`347 (100`000 to 1)
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/05/31/the-worst/
BingoBoingo: benkay: I dun think you know how I play BitBet...
BingoBoingo: Just enough on just the right longshots
BingoBoingo: If I man up on crossing the Darien on foot, I'll probably throw down coin on a bitbet hedge for ransom
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 52 @ 0.00199663 = 0.1038 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: !t h AM1
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.11000000 / 0.26949001 / 0.43411640 (847 shares, 228.25803918 BTC), 7D: 0.11000000 / 0.3314984 / 0.50990000 (1219 shares, 404.09655121 BTC), 30D: 0.11000000 / 0.40050545 / 0.50990000 (2697 shares, 1080.16319812 BTC)
benkay: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00420000 / 0.00468506 / 0.00511050 (461 shares, 2.15981445 BTC), 7D: 0.00415677 / 0.0050139 / 0.00588990 (923 shares, 4.62783358 BTC), 30D: 0.00415677 / 0.00599583 / 0.00710000 (7782 shares, 46.65953801 BTC)
BingoBoingo: Awfully close to their GLBSE IPO
benkay: owie - haven't really recovered from that btc rally, eh theyear20* ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: benkay: You see there is a substantial difference between AM1 and RENT. AM1 went as high as 6 BTC (not the havelock asset but the underlying) and served as the TardStar for 18 months now. It is now flirting with equity under IPO price. RENT was always questionable in price.
BingoBoingo: !up Ziggy9263
BingoBoingo: Ziggy9263: How are you today?
BingoBoingo: !up coingenuity
BingoBoingo: coingenuity: Are the rumors of you metals business being paperwork intense really that true
BingoBoingo: !up deadweasel
BingoBoingo: deadweasel: Long time no see. Like seriously. How is stuff going
BingoBoingo: ?
BingoBoingo: ;;rate Duffer1 2 Wrote seminal text on losing 90% in BTC stocks and admitted to it. Has very heavy balls.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user Duffer1 has changed from 1 to 2.
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, do you happen to have a linkg to that text ?
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic Which?
Apocalyptic: " Wrote seminal text on losing 90% in BTC stocks"
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: I'll look for it. It is no shame on him though. Was all his personal risk. The text makes up for the loss by leaps and bounds.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8943 @ 0.00088547 = 7.9188 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Duffer1's second point is from his Vault boy avatar
BingoBoingo: Apocalyptic: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/cautious-as-serpents-innocent-as-doves-you-have-been-warned.200818/
assbot: Cautious as serpents, innocent as doves. You have been warned. | Bitcointa.lk
Apocalyptic: ty
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 401 @ 0.00226154 = 0.9069 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.2506422 = 12.5321 BTC [-] {7}
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.75 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 75(Y):25(N) by coin, 75(Y):25(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.32379439 BTC. Current weight: 94,165.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 623.08, Best ask: 625.35, Bid-ask spread: 2.27000, Last trade: 625.35, 24 hour volume: 24619.40040858, 24 hour low: 568.57, 24 hour high: 629.4, 24 hour vwap: 606.685254236
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 625.35, vol: 24619.40040858 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 605.0, vol: 14937.17378 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 625.1, vol: 24222.15038632 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 620.0, vol: 82.38159882 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 618.1461, vol: 7844.28690000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 627.42576, vol: 19.72541055 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 606.713, vol: 171.58345811 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: Price signal seems weak.
BingoBoingo: Like Brock bait
BingoBoingo: Out of curiosity, are any other Norte Americanos considering an overland route to Conference v3?
BingoBoingo might secretly hope for sufficient support to take the Darien in the name of crypto
punkman: BingoBoingo: how would that bet go
BingoBoingo: punkman: Which one?
punkman: passing the Darien
BingoBoingo: punkman: I think price dependent I'd throw a BTC on "No" and put my best Eagle Scout skills into avoiding capture. I'd plan on using the bet as a hedge.
BingoBoingo: Potential Ransom would be unknowable.
BingoBoingo: I'd taked measures like letting the beard get unruly and rubbing myself down with meth to try to keep ransom cheap
BingoBoingo: punkman: I would definitely be a unique application of Bitbet as a hedge, at least so far.
punkman: BingoBoingo: but how would the bet be worded, seems tricky
BingoBoingo: punkman: And there is the dilema
BingoBoingo: punkman: I'm not supposing it as a thing to be supposed yet.
punkman: myeah
BingoBoingo: I'm just thinking the natural direction for funds considering I'm a not particularly in shape middle 'Murican would probably favor my capture.
BingoBoingo: Which is why even I'd bet against me
BingoBoingo: I'd probably also bet for me though
BingoBoingo: Tis how Bitbet works.
BingoBoingo: Bet both sides to control your maximum loss
punkman: I made a thing to track my bitbets
BingoBoingo: punkman: I think many people have
BingoBoingo: Many people have "public-ish" Bitbet addresses along with more private ones.
BingoBoingo: Takes initiative to turbocharge that stats page
BingoBoingo: The best part of BitBet has to be that I would get 3+ BTC if as we type an erect Brock Pierce is pulled out of a cub scout
punkman: not enough bankroll to bet the longshots, I need to work on that
BingoBoingo wonders about the interim outcome where Bingo encounter FARC and drinks copious booze while partaking in their beautiful snow.
BingoBoingo: punkman: Longshots are art and science
BingoBoingo just got the solaris look on xfce to click...
BingoBoingo wonders now about forcing cwm into an A/UX look
punkman: fiddling with the new airgap machine
punkman: but I seem to have misplaced the 2.5" drive that was gonna go on it
BingoBoingo has many machines with "air gap" by lack of ability to do "ethernet"
punkman: this one has ethernet, but the manual says it's disabled because it makes booting slow
punkman: there's also a bunch of GPIO pins, could hook up an RNG or a geiger counter
BingoBoingo: punkman: Are you using some sort of dev board?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 50 @ 0.03048265 = 1.5241 BTC [-] {10}
punkman: BingoBoingo: kinda, https://www.olimex.com/wiki/A10-OLinuXino-LIME
assbot: A10-OLinuXino-LIME - Olimex
punkman: if it turns out well, I'm considering making a nice enclosure and reselling them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.26477548 = 0.5296 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.26595424 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.27174821 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0975 = 0.195 BTC [+]
punkman: %diff
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 455357.13 Est. Next Diff: 153517.49 in 93 blocks (#32256) Est. % Change: -66.29
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1796 @ 0.00088431 = 1.5882 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8441 @ 0.00088018 = 7.4296 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3670 @ 0.00009362 = 0.3436 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.02320666 = 0.2785 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.02435343 = 0.1705 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0975 = 0.975 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.24500858 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.245 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0975 = 0.78 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.0023 = 0.207 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.00243946 = 0.139 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.255 = 1.275 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.25 = 3.75 BTC [-]
Naphex: w1wwwwwwd1wwww
fluffypony: Naphex: indeed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24471 @ 0.00087828 = 21.4924 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.25499999 = 1.785 BTC [+]
pankkake: hi, Naphex's cat
fluffypony: hah hah
fluffypony: maybe it's a CICADA 3301 code
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 18 @ 0.03001111 = 0.5402 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16921 @ 0.00087848 = 14.8648 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16378 @ 0.00088039 = 14.419 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 10 @ 0.0285 = 0.285 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.24453041 = 3.9125 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.24 = 2.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 279 @ 0.00234749 = 0.6549 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.23 = 1.15 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 19 @ 0.027 = 0.513 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.25399937 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.07999956 = 0.48 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7222 @ 0.00087759 = 6.338 BTC [-]
Naphex: it was a code
fluffypony: Naphex: I thought so
fluffypony: and my answer is yes
fluffypony: I will marry you
fluffypony: but only if my wife agrees
Naphex: i'm doing gaming sunday
Naphex: oh wait, its saturday
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30600 @ 0.00087821 = 26.8732 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 623.75, Best ask: 624.25, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 624.25, 24 hour volume: 19203.63390734, 24 hour low: 588.4, 24 hour high: 629.4, 24 hour vwap: 611.302270722
mircea_popescu: o hey.
fluffypony: up she goes
mircea_popescu: indeed
mircea_popescu: hm
fluffypony: bad hm or good hm?
mircea_popescu: well what is nano being attacked or being gfunny
fluffypony: could just be the alt nick in his client
fluffypony: and if he's having connection issues it'll reconnect with that
fluffypony: I come back as fluffyghost if ZNC can't secure my nick, for instance
mircea_popescu: true
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00088065 = 12.5052 BTC [+]
jurov: fluffypony: okay, as long as it isn't rapeghost
fluffypony: lulz
jurov: yknow, there was this rg dude around
mircea_popescu: ;;seen anarkitty
gribble: I have not seen anarkitty.
mircea_popescu: never showed up again huh.
mircea_popescu: funny how people's lives are determined for them in ways they can never account for.
fluffypony: yeah
fluffypony: their loss
xmj: mircea_popescu: determined by whom?
mircea_popescu: xmj, youll have to read the logs to unravel this mystery.
xmj: bleh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00088065 = 34.2573 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: so there you have your answer : by their own misguided belief that they can make calls and don't need to obey strangers/
xmj: Freedom - I won't
jurov: what else can you expect from alpha males
mircea_popescu: exactly. misunderstanding freedom is the most effectual limitation on actual freedom.
xmj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Explosion
assbot: The Great Explosion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
xmj: ^^ excellent book.
mircea_popescu: anyone here familiar with ipads know how the fuck to delete a game completely off the things ? i'm playing this retarded honorbound thing and no matter what i do, it still takes me to the original account i started with. where the fuck do they keep their files i wish to know
FabianB: mircea_popescu: don't have an ipad, but press the game for a few seconds, it'll show an x to delete
mircea_popescu: yes but when i reinstall it, presto, it has the old data
FabianB: ah, dunno then
mircea_popescu: mike_c: hehe. this is fun. http://ow.ly/3la8fY <<< OMFG
mircea_popescu: MIKE YOU EVIL BASTARD
mircea_popescu: i guess i don't need coffee today, my bp will be back to normal levels after sundown
mircea_popescu: jurov: and they hoped for phat IPO, but mircea rejected it outright << scrat or w/e pushed too hard on the negotiation lever. those things break easily.
jurov: yes, that
mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: "In essence, Beats aims to become Uber of music << this final stage cancer, where every bit of nonsense tends to be "that other bit of nonsense that got lucky" but "of somethingelse"
mircea_popescu: tomorrow joe wins lottery ticket. moe ipos scissors factory that'll be joe's lottery ticket of scissors.
mircea_popescu: joe buys 50 shares for half his winnings, press howls about the mega valuation,
mircea_popescu: next you know it everyone's cat aims to be either moe's scissor of tuna or joe's lottery ticket of flavoured condoms
jurov: wait till someone will want to be mircea of something
mircea_popescu: or whatever the fuck else.
mircea_popescu: o god have mercy
mircea_popescu: but i personally blame diablo.
mircea_popescu: well, blizzard. elite necklace of the zodiac, uber derpage of music,
mircea_popescu: they created the fucking mental slots. a generation of ipo artists fed on wow and md.
mircea_popescu: $t h am
mircea_popescu: !t h am
assbot: You had the last Philistine. This one's mine.
mircea_popescu: !t h am1
assbot: [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.11000000 / 0.26376753 / 0.43411640 (945 shares, 249.26031865 BTC), 7D: 0.11000000 / 0.32420524 / 0.50990000 (1337 shares, 433.46240978 BTC), 30D: 0.11000000 / 0.39303465 / 0.50990000 (2780 shares, 1092.63632173 BTC)
mircea_popescu: !t h amq
assbot: Have you got any tobacco?
mircea_popescu: guise halp whay is good investment tankeing ? shorts fud campaign ?
mircea_popescu: !up skinnkavaj
mircea_popescu: how's your portofolio these days ?
mircea_popescu: punkman: that's not a quarter << well it's not two weeks either, whadda ya want.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 39 @ 0.00503833 = 0.1965 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 24 @ 0.00503832 = 0.1209 BTC [-]
fluffypony: "Have actually been discussing this very topic with a couple of my friends. Though CS has been around for quite sometime, it's becoming more and more apparent that Kumala doesn't seem to spend a whole lotta time even making sure his sites wallet's are working. Add to this the ridiculous fee's, 0 due-diligence, and serious lack of support we've all agreed that CS's time is limited at best barring some sort of major delta in Kumala's modus
fluffypony: operandi of who gives a flying-<beep>."
fluffypony: CS seems to be on the way out
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: well this is the best ever indication the fuckwits are running out of whole bitcoins
mircea_popescu: the people who used to steal by the 100s are no longer interested to either continue hitting them for quarters or to sell to a hungry young scammer willing to bother.
mircea_popescu: and so the ancient chumpatrons close down
fluffypony: unfortunately the aforementioned user jumps to the wrong solution
fluffypony: "Decentralized exchanges are the next logical step in my opinion."
fluffypony: right after complaining about due dilligence
mircea_popescu: this is because the aforementioned user does not belong holding any bitcoin
mircea_popescu: he's not correctly privileged in the head.
assbot: Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3X7V79X.txt )
pankkake: !b 10 ✂︎
mircea_popescu: this is why privilege is so important : so guys like him are kept packing others' groceries forever.
fluffypony: he should check his privilege
mircea_popescu: definitely.
mircea_popescu: i think this is the new meaning of that previously meaningless expression
mircea_popescu: "check your privilege" is a polite indication that one's being so generally stupid it's not worth discussing the particulars.
mircea_popescu: roughly the equivalent of old msdos "general failure please reboot"
fluffypony: lol
jurov: Abort,Retry,Ignore,Fail?
fluffypony: all of the above
mircea_popescu: ^
fluffypony: Unprivileged comment detected. Please dump core and reboot life and / or universe.
mircea_popescu: works quite well dunnit
xmj: well, the matrix runs on Windows XP.
xmj: so a reboot is necessary from time to time.
mircea_popescu: !up nkuttler
fluffypony: gah
fluffypony: what's the worst for stuff degrading over time?
fluffypony: my addled brain is not functioning, and Google isn't helping
xmj: decay ?
fluffypony: there's another word
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2400077 = 0.48 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00088065 = 3.6107 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: rotting ?
TomServo: entropy?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.2400001 = 1.92 BTC [-]
fluffypony: ENTROPY
fluffypony: holy fuck
fluffypony: thank you TomServo
Apocalyptic: huh, how is entropy correlated with "degrading over time"
mircea_popescu: shangri-la: I tried looking into shorting AM shares some months ago but came across nothing, anyone know some way? <<< you gotta be part of the market to trade. are you ?
mircea_popescu: maybe he means entalpy
jurov: "nah, just wanna to snatch some CFD"
mircea_popescu: lol ok.
mircea_popescu: benkay: the challenge i'm facing for the CONference is that of whelping. it's entirely possible lady v'll be either bedridden or suckling in april. << benkay adding to the world supply of gemini huh.
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: I was looking for this - http://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/464/2096/2001.full
assbot: On the thermodynamics of degradation
fluffypony: Apocalyptic: also - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/entropy - "a process of degradation or running down or a trend to disorder"
assbot: Entropy - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Apocalyptic: never seen it defined in such a way
fluffypony: I normally use it that way to make myself sound educated and self-important
fluffypony: :-P
jurov: sesquipedalian fluffypony
fluffypony: hah hah
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo:Also interesting, how much time would be spent searching system Z bar cabinet full of disco lights for things that might be data storage. << lawl.
fluffypony: entropy isn't a very long word, jurov
mircea_popescu: ACHTUNG!
fluffypony: omf sendingen tö wifen
mircea_popescu was thinking "should paste it ? nah, it'll bore everyone, older than dirt. nah! ppl still don't know it! nah... yeah!"
mircea_popescu: in the end the right side won it turns out
xmj: mircea_popescu: what language is that supposed to be
mircea_popescu: pumperknicker.
fluffypony: Germinglish
jurov: Hollandanisk
fluffypony: Jurovskian
mircea_popescu: i suppose today it'd be racist, because omfg cotton pickin' hands ? does that mean black people can;t use computers !??!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 169 @ 0.0041 = 0.6929 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00238932 = 0.1195 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00088065 = 3.0382 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: yes
mircea_popescu: ;;rated kumala
gribble: You rated user kumala on Sun Mar 30 17:45:32 2014, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: consummate scammer. vircurex, cryptostocks, an entire stack..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 238 @ 0.000472 = 0.1123 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00246923 = 0.1235 BTC [-]
pankkake: I'm always surprised when scammers have an account on otc, not just bitcointalk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00088079 = 23.1648 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: this guy has been around for years.
mircea_popescu: early on everyone wanted to be in otc because everyone wanted to be with the cool kids, and losers a la various washed up stars, antonopule and so forth hadn;t fallen in yet.
pankkake: well, some of the older scammers aren't in it, or I haven't found them
pankkake: as for the newer ones, yeah that's obvious, I'm not even arguing it :)
mircea_popescu: who ?
mircea_popescu: of the older ones i mean
fluffypony: ;;gettrust pirateat40
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user fluffypony to user pirateat40: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=fluffypony&dest=pirateat40 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pirateat40 | Rated since: Mon Aug 1 17:18:45 2011
fluffypony: "best to wait for him to resolve his legal issues one way or the other before conducting further business with him..."
fluffypony: lol nanotube
fluffypony: so diplomatic
pankkake: I've tried to find goat, roger ver, and other forum vips from 2011-2012
mircea_popescu: goat is in there
pankkake: ;;rate -2 Garr255 lied many times and stole from his Cognitive asset (his explanation is that he was really incompetent, neither possiblity is good)
gribble: Error: 'Garr255' is not a valid integer.
pankkake: ;;rate Garr255 -2 lied many times and stole from his Cognitive asset (his explanation is that he was really incompetent, neither possiblity is good)
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -2 for user Garr255 has been recorded.
fluffypony: ;;gettrust usagi
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user fluffypony to user usagi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=fluffypony&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012
fluffypony: ;;rate usage -2 Doesn't know how to backup in any way, shape, or form. I'll adjust this rating after he has gone and done an IT-related diploma and has at least the same knowledge as an A+ network technician.
mircea_popescu: i'd have to go through my old logs to see what name he was using at the time
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
fluffypony: ffs
fluffypony: ;;rate usagi -2 Doesn't know how to backup in any way, shape, or form. I'll adjust this rating after he has gone and done an IT-related diploma and has at least the same knowledge as an A+ network technician.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -2 for user usagi has been recorded.
Apocalyptic: ;;rate kumala -2 Vircurex and cryptostocks...
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -2 for user kumala has been recorded.
pankkake: anyway, I've tried to find correspondance between the two wots and even reddit, but I rarely got something
dub: so he needs to know how to drool on his shoes
fluffypony: dub: yes
fluffypony: I'll adjust it to a -1 if he can demonstrate that ability
mircea_popescu: ;;getrating sexdrugscoins
gribble: Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust sexdrugscoins
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user sexdrugscoins: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=sexdrugscoins | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=sexdrugscoins | Rated since: Sun Jun 19 11:21:51 2011
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0265002 = 0.212 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 8 @ 0.0243 = 0.1944 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 8 @ 0.04954094 = 0.3963 BTC [-]
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/check-your-privilege/
pankkake: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2014#669067 that link is pretty relevant to last day's AM price halving ☝︎
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.23500084 = 6.11 BTC [-] {7}
pankkake: that guy on scamtalk starts most of his replies by "Dear x, I hope your well." :|
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00088547 = 7.2166 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lulzy huh
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla, wtf was goat going as in 2012 ? btcking something or the other ?
danielpbarron: <+BingoBoingo> Well, so far playing with OpenBSD I have to say one of my favorite parts is the error messages, danielpbarron can you corroberate this? << if you mean that they are usually helpful in diagnosing the problem, then yes; my experience with openbsd has be very positive so far
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34330 @ 0.00087905 = 30.1778 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1776 @ 0.00087727 = 1.558 BTC [-]
FabianB: mircea_popescu: chaangnoi or something like that?
pankkake: couldn't find that in wot
mircea_popescu: nah before that
mircea_popescu: guy has been online for like 20 years, does this eighteen month scrub of everything
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.23 = 0.46 BTC [-] {2}
chetty: <mircea_popescu> guy has been online for like 20 years, does this eighteen month scrub of everything// online rep stuff does fade ..slowly
[]bot: Bet created: "Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/871/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.224 = 2.24 BTC [-]
pankkake: http://bitbet.us/bet/609/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall/ again?
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall :: 6.66 B (17%) on Yes, 33.04 B (83%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 6 days | weight: 9`535 (100`000 to 1)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.223 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet created: "ASIC Miner below IPO before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/872/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.22200006 = 1.998 BTC [-] {3}
pankkake: bitbet thinks diff is going to fall?! lol
pankkake: or just wants to give 0.07 BTC to 1BqbM
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.0975 = 9.75 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00088422 = 26.1729 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.08619999 = 0.3448 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 7 @ 0.0265007 = 0.1855 BTC [+]
BCB: is goat in here
pankkake: lobbes: I've left you a rating if you ever want to talk in here. http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html
assbot: #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.222 = 0.666 BTC [-]
pankkake: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3940
assbot: Against decentralized bugtracking
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.04954094 = 0.2477 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.0265 = 0.1325 BTC [-]
Mats_cd03: is there a solid gpg library anyone would recommend?
Mats_cd03: gpgme doesnt seem to be updated anymore
FabianB: gpgme
FabianB: really?
pankkake: C library?
pankkake: what do you want to do?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.02780096 = 0.1946 BTC [-] {4}
Mats_cd03: yeah a C library
Mats_cd03: encryption and decryption
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 11 @ 0.0277 = 0.3047 BTC [-] {2}
FabianB: Mats_cd03: http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2014-May/028483.html <-- not so long ago (GPGME 1.5.0 released)
FabianB: doesn't look dead, 10 days ago
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00224749 = 0.1124 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i dont recall goat before 'chaang-noi'
benkay: <Mats_cd03> is there a solid gpg library anyone would recommend? // openssl tro lo lo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.19591419 BTC to 9`131 shares, 24049 satoshi per share
fluffypony: Mats_cd03: just use the GPG command line client in a screen session that dumps to screenlog, push commands to it with stuff
fluffypony: :-P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] [PAID] 3.20000000 BTC to 40`000 shares, 8000 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] [PAID] 5.00000000 BTC to 50`000 shares, 10000 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] [PAID] 2.17250000 BTC to 86`900 shares, 2500 satoshi per share
dignork: Mats_cd03 gpgme is just a wrapper, executing gpg and reading stdout/feeding stdin
jurov: n IT-related diploma and has at least the same knowledge as an A+ network technician.///fluffypony that does *not* imply knowledge of backup strategies
fluffypony: jurov: like dub clarified - he needs to be able to dribble on his shoes
fluffypony: then rating goes from -2 to -1
danielpbarron: <+mircea_popescu> yes but when i reinstall it, presto, it has the old data << try settings > general > usage (wait for it to load) from here you can manage app data stored on both your device and in iCloud (if you have that enabled)
jurov: wait, there are certificates for drooling on one's shoes???
jurov: or diplomas?
fluffypony: jurov: yes - A+ and N+
cgcardona: monring everyone o/
cgcardona: *morning
benkay: allo cgcardona
asciilifeform: gentlemen - who wants to recommend a modern stabilizer transformer? mine's dropping the ball.
asciilifeform: none of the recent semiconductor-based 'on-demand' crap. can one still get the massive soviet-style ones, i wonder.
asciilifeform: (ferroresonant)
mircea_popescu: benkay, wait a second how the fuck do you know 11 months in advance when the woman's gonna deliver
asciilifeform hates only one thing more than calculating drill annular ring diameters by hand: having to do it twice.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.02789741 = 0.1116 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, doubtful. youll prolly have to fix your old one.
mircea_popescu: they'[re too heavy for transport see. cause we're so advanced and gdp
asciilifeform: damn, as usual.
asciilifeform: america. where you get to re-wind transformers, just like grandfather.
mircea_popescu: reminds me of france in 1950s.
mircea_popescu: major world power, just don't ask for anything.
dignork: asciilifeform: I have ~80W PSU, there is pretty big transformer inside
asciilifeform: dignork: we're talking about a 20kg monster
dignork: well, mine is about 5-6 kg for the whole device
asciilifeform: these things aren't even 'officially' necessary in the 'civilized' world.
asciilifeform: 1:1 winding
dignork: ah, 1:1 is an isolating transformer, I have one too :)
dignork: like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261356466906&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:3160
assbot: Dale Technology IT400 Model IT400 4 110V 3 5 Medical Grade Isolation Transformer | eBay
asciilifeform: yeah thought about getting a surplus medical unit, but they tend to be small.
dignork: 400W
asciilifeform: gotta have 1kw, preferably 2
asciilifeform: plus, the bigger, the better it works. think of it as electrical equivalent of flywheel.
asciilifeform: (there are folks in usa using actual flywheels for this purpose, still! world power, yeah.)
dignork: asciilifeform: what are you feeding?
asciilifeform: computers, lab instruments, laser cutter
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: a room full of various strange
dignork: asciilifeform: two of these? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ACME-TA-2-54525-Industrial-Control-Transformer-1500VA-50-60Hz/291157461753
assbot: Acme TA 2 54525 Industrial Control Transformer 1500VA 50 60Hz | eBay
asciilifeform: rather like it.
dignork: not sure if it's 1:1 though, listing is not clear
asciilifeform: aye, if the surplus turds were meticulously labeled, i'da bought one already.
asciilifeform: also annoyed that the art of varnishing and baking transformers seems to have been lost. just about anything you buy now buzzes like electric chair.
dignork: second photo is a label, x3:x is 1:1 to h2:h4
asciilifeform: even the tiny little things in laptops, tablets
asciilifeform: i can hear a 'kindle' gizmo flipping pages. across a room.
asciilifeform: ~16kHz whine.
asciilifeform: my theory: old engineers (what still remain) went deaf from old age; young ones - from 'concerts'; no one remaining who thinks noise is a problem.
asciilifeform: (transformers buzz from 'magnetostriction' of iron. varnish acts as a dampener.)
dignork: poutine: google for multisig, and you find 3 vaguely readable docs on how actually to do this
dignork: oops
jurov: asciilifeform what's perfect hearing good for anyway?
asciilifeform: what are good eyes good for? legs, arms? plenty.
jurov: eyes yes. arms and legs, yes. but ears? just annoyance
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6157 @ 0.00088547 = 5.4518 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: reminds me of a conversation i once had with a fellow who had an implanted electronic prosthetic ear
asciilifeform: he could switch off whatever noise, or just plug necessary audio into a jack in his head. was envious.
jurov: i'm not being fully serious here, i actualy agree it's sad
jurov: someday people with perfect hearing will end up wearing hearing aids with noise suppression
jurov: *soon
asciilifeform: 'happy lives the man who has only one leg. one sock won't tear, and he needn't the other boot.' (russian childrens' rhyme)
asciilifeform: jurov: this is already SOP. i've one right here (phase cancelling headphone)
fluffypony: research: http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20140531.png
jurov: now if the subatomic particles were so easily affected
jurov: but then dunno, we'd have phlogiston and aether and whatnot
jurov: and oprah fields
penguirker: New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/05/31/usagi-back-back-back-it-up-ayee/
fluffypony: omf I'm crying
fluffypony: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8206016000/hB2340436/
fluffypony: from this tumblr: http://straightwhiteboystexting.tumblr.com
assbot: Straight White Boys Texting
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0731 = 0.2924 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 35 @ 0.00527511 = 0.1846 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.07999998 = 0.16 BTC [+]
pankkake: ;;seen mike_c
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 20 hours, 3 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <mike_c> url isn't linked
pankkake: I need you for my troll :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4000 @ 0.00009195 = 0.3678 BTC [-] {3}
cgcardona: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 620.45, Best ask: 621.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.54000, Last trade: 622.0, 24 hour volume: 14008.21634313, 24 hour low: 607.02, 24 hour high: 629.4, 24 hour vwap: 619.896578906
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3654 @ 0.00008653 = 0.3162 BTC [-] {7}
cgcardona: what's the 'milk' joke on bitbet all about?
cgcardona: what am I missing that's obvious?
cgcardona: is it just like 'milk it for all its worth' kind of a think?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 8 @ 0.116 = 0.928 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07999999 = 0.64 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: cgcardona http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2014&bots=true#661893
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log
cgcardona: got it
kakobrekla: also if you dont have it, you get a bottle of it in the footer as a reward for going through the entire page
cgcardona: yes I got it
cgcardona: bitbet is really cool. the first time I saw it it blew my mind. Still one of the cooler sites to show people regarding btc. so nice work
joecool: lol milk is a scam and loans are a gift
fluffypony: joecool you know what's really a scam?
fluffypony: backups are a scam
cgcardona: false sense of security
fluffypony: the truth is in the data
cgcardona: fuck it. just freeball
fluffypony: 1 copy = truth
cgcardona: canonical copy
fluffypony: exactly - 1:0 on itself
fluffypony: there's no reward without risk
fluffypony: and what greater risk could there be
fluffypony: so the reward will be that much greater
fluffypony: if you have no backups
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 4 @ 0.0278974 = 0.1116 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 36 @ 0.02789741 = 1.0043 BTC [+]
Mats_cd03: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 621.17, vol: 13998.86617647 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 608.6, vol: 7948.38554 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 619.8, vol: 9444.5672781 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 629.0, vol: 46.2647362 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 622.300695, vol: 4765.46090000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 621.99999, vol: 13.30129996 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 612.152966, vol: 63.01958164 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
jurov: fluffypony that's called "bitstamp theorem"
fluffypony: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.23001 = 0.46 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.22474285 = 1.5732 BTC [-] {4}
pankkake: Backups are for wimps. Real men upload their data to an FTP site and have everyone else mirror it.
fluffypony: lol
asciilifeform: s/ftp/blockchain
pankkake: quote from the inventor of penguins
pankkake: so I encode my wallet.dat in porn and share it to the world
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.22204357 = 1.5543 BTC [-] {3}
fluffypony: such a pity that Bliss Devices didn't get funding
fluffypony: I was hoping for an implosion
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21250 @ 0.0008862 = 18.8318 BTC [+] {2}
pankkake: it was "toon soon", a year later it would have worked
pankkake: too*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00088677 = 11.7054 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00210869 = 0.1265 BTC [-]
cgcardona: asciilifeform: s/ftp/blockchain <<<< yep
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07999998 = 0.4 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.23499828 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4476 @ 0.0001512 = 0.6768 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.08 = 0.24 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.08 = 0.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.08 = 0.56 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 13 @ 0.02770002 = 0.3601 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.00207937 = 1.0397 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.23831848 = 0.9533 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00088679 = 5.3207 BTC [+]
benkay: <mircea_popescu> benkay, wait a second how the fuck do you know 11 months in advance when the woman's gonna deliver // it's all hazy probability fields at this point
benkay: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 621.5, Best ask: 622.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 622.0, 24 hour volume: 13575.94459734, 24 hour low: 611.0, 24 hour high: 629.4, 24 hour vwap: 620.734722492
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 7 @ 0.0277 = 0.1939 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35099 @ 0.000885 = 31.0626 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00088484 = 4.7339 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00088733 = 17.8797 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00088734 = 1.5972 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 9 @ 0.0277 = 0.2493 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;later tell bitcoinpete the saddest thing about Usagi is desptie early investors like myself warning others, people still invest money in his money loss machine...
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23116 @ 0.00088484 = 20.454 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1168 @ 0.00203611 = 2.3782 BTC [-] {4}
pankkake: he probably still has green trust with DefaultTrust
fluffypony: of course he does
fluffypony: HERO MEMBER
fluffypony: VIP
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.22201063 = 4.4402 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.0008848 = 7.6093 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.08864298 = 1.3296 BTC [+] {2}
thestringpuller: yea but why does he have 15000 btc?
thestringpuller: He has so much debt to pay
thestringpuller: why isn't he shutting down and paying niggas back?
dexX7: i don't like scammers, but i do respect hero members. i can only imagine what kind of experience it must be to be involved for a longer time.. (i'm saying this after being an active member for 13+ months)
fluffypony: has anyone noticed the Bitcointalk footer recently?
fluffypony: "Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN."
fluffypony: Bitcointalk is now sponsored by Comma
fluffypony: it's amazing, hey assbot?
thestringpuller: bitcointalk the worst thing to happen to bitcoin since the bitcoin devs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.22200004 = 4.44 BTC [-] {3}
pankkake: I'm still seeing "Private Internet Access"
thestringpuller: he deleted your post fluffypony ?
thestringpuller: haha
thestringpuller: wow
thestringpuller: yet quoted you?
thestringpuller: like
thestringpuller: whut?
fluffypony: thestringpuller: yeah, much fail
fluffypony: pankkake: seems to say that now for me as well, it didn't say that on a few pages
fluffypony: pankkake: I guess it's just generally borked
pankkake: lol
thestringpuller: damn, "how to not run a bitcoin business"
thestringpuller: it's also funny how scammers are terrified to come in this channel
fluffypony: ah it's doing it again - it happens when I got to my profile page when I'm logged in
benkay: step 1: don't touch both rails
benkay: seriously: btc businesses must do all bookkeeping in btc
benkay: !t h rent
assbot: [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00400100 / 0.00415024 / 0.00470000 (420 shares, 1.74310187 BTC), 7D: 0.00400100 / 0.00470416 / 0.00588990 (1042 shares, 4.90173566 BTC), 30D: 0.00400100 / 0.00595711 / 0.00710000 (7395 shares, 44.05286365 BTC)
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/2318/
benkay: !t m smpoe
assbot: Are you sure you have no tobacco?
benkay: !t m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00087727 / 0.00088303 / 0.00089172 (494501 shares, 436.66 BTC), 7D: 0.00080316 / 0.00087081 / 0.00093337 (4691671 shares, 4,085.59 BTC), 30D: 0.00080316 / 0.00091603 / 0.00101 (24669564 shares, 22,598.27 BTC)
pankkake: either assbot should fix the common command mistakes, or kick you every time you make one
thestringpuller: !up HeySteve
benkay: ;;gettrust chairforce1
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user chairforce1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=chairforce1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=chairforce1 | Rated since: never
benkay: !up chairforce1
benkay: that's a pretty funny handle, ch
chairforce1: neat
benkay: chairforce1:
chairforce1: thanks
benkay: who are you and what brings you by?
chairforce1: im really good at losing money
chairforce1: i came here to boast
benkay: carry on - asicminer?
chairforce1: yea
chairforce1: and active shitstorm
chairforce1: such is life
fluffypony: if I had any Dogecoin I'd send you a tip
benkay: learn the mining lesson?
chairforce1: haha thanks but it would be better spent if some1 who needed it more got it
chairforce1: i don't think i have
chairforce1: teach me
benkay: don't do it
kakobrekla: its simple, forget mining.
assbot: Last 15 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/00Z2ERT.txt )
benkay: !b 15 ✂︎
chairforce1: well i never have, but i have invested in mining "companies"
kakobrekla: dont do that also.
dub: the important thing to remember about mining is to do it in 2011 not 2014
benkay: boils down to a long position on mining
fluffypony: chairforce1: they never make money
dub is fairly happy with his AM gains
chairforce1: i believe it
chairforce1: now i must slowly rebuild
chairforce1: but i will persevere
dub: theres a secondary market for sticking shit in your ass somewhere around here, might give you a leg up
thestringpuller: chairforce1: with an attitude like that you will be fine
chairforce1: yea im not worried
thestringpuller: ^- spoken like a true hustler
fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/1L7P4FI.jpg
fluffypony: French phrase book
fluffypony: seems to be the natural order of things
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.02449837 = 0.245 BTC [+] {3}
chairforce1: yea
chairforce1: regular weekend night at the bar
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.00203 = 0.1157 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2201 = 1.1005 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 8 @ 0.02789741 = 0.2232 BTC [+]
chairforce1: can some1 explain what s.mpoe does?
benkay: goes up some days
benkay: down others
benkay: have you read the contract?
chairforce1: no, ill go read it
benkay: ask google first, then ask in here.
benkay: otherwise MERCILESS MOCKING will ensue
benkay: ;;google mpex.co
gribble: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.: <http://mpex.co/>; S.MPOE last 9500@0.00089170 - MPEx: <http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MPOE>; [Mpex.co] The Scientology of Bitcoin Finance? - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.0>
chairforce1: already on it
benkay: if you're going to be a while, you might consider getting into the web of trust as well
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [-]
chairforce1: web of trust?
benkay: ;;gettrust benkay chairforce1
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user chairforce1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=chairforce1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=chairforce1 | Rated since: never
benkay: ;;gettrust benkay mircea_popescu
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~satoshi@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user benkay to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 23 via 13 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011
benkay: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu kakobrekla
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user kakobrekla: Level 1: 5, Level 2: 46 via 27 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=kakobrekla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kakobrekla | Rated since: Fri May 13 18:50:53 2011
benkay: ;;google bitcoin-otc wot
gribble: #bitcoin-otc web of trust: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/newsite/trust.php>; #bitcoin-otc: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/>; #bitcoin-otc web of trust data: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php>
benkay: crypto-backed trust database.
benkay: the crypto reputation mgr to bitcoin's crypto store-of-value mgr
chairforce1: this is interesting
chairforce1: i like the graph
chairforce1: so we r creating the perfect circle jerk?
chairforce1: according to dub?
benkay: basically
thestringpuller: haha
benkay: 'cause nobody !ups new faces or anything...
chairforce1: so what is to gain from this jerking in this circle as opposed to others?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.22 = 1.76 BTC [-]
benkay: the -assets circle or the wot in general?
chairforce1: both?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 418 @ 0.00203 = 0.8485 BTC [-]
benkay: uh -assets is just a bunch of rich perverts that run a lot of moderately interesting bitcoin things
chairforce1: fun
benkay: and the web of trust is just the place to have a reputation if you want to do btc biz
benkay: you'll note how well your forum investments did.
benkay: !up chairforce1
thestringpuller: yea that's a good point benkay
thestringpuller: forum investments vs -assets investments
chairforce1: well my forum investments are
chairforce1: bad?
chairforce1: and i have no assets investments
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kakobrekla: !b 3 ✂︎
thestringpuller: ^- interesting correlation huh
chairforce1: lol
kakobrekla: "<chairforce1> and i have no assets investments" < he invests in non-assets.
chairforce1: so is everything im saying getting stored to be used against me?
chairforce1: yea i found a way
kakobrekla: stored as learning material
kakobrekla: for other lost souls
benkay: not used against you
benkay: you can learn, right?
chairforce1: i know people with the phrase "not all who wander are lost" tattooed
chairforce1: i believe so
benkay: you'll be fine then
benkay: there's plenty to be learned here.
kakobrekla: well if its a tattoo, then it must be true.
benkay: read logs, get into the web-of-trust...
benkay: that's the only culty part, imho is the web of trust
benkay: but the whole thing falls over without some trust mechanism
benkay: identities being cheap and all
chairforce1: ok
chairforce1: what forest can i find these logs?
benkay: check the topic
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99706.0 reading the past is amazing
assbot: Here's why BTCST won't last for one year
chairforce1: !topic
chairforce1: ok
chairforce1: i made it a few lines into s.mpoe
pankkake: the wot +v thing allowed ~400 people at the start, and it's probably much more now
chairforce1: so my track record for reading is almost as bad as my investment ability
benkay: reading is a prerequisite for investing.
chairforce1: therefore i can do neither
chairforce1: and it makes sense
dub: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg7057216#msg7057216 related
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benkay: just gambling, you know?
pankkake: chairforce1: http://www.btcalpha.com/ has probably the best insight on it
assbot: Btc Alpha - Analysis tools for bitcoin finance.
pankkake: "I have avoided investing in S.MPOE because I can't figure it out." :)
benkay: that's mike's line, right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24187 @ 0.0008848 = 21.4007 BTC [-]
pankkake: yes. also "Clearly Mircea has been reading BtcAlpha and picked up some good ideas on where to invest his coin" on another post :)
benkay: on an entirely different topic, i just rented a server with 8 cores and 15G of ram for, oh, two hours, to run a job
benkay: satoshi bless the cloud
Naphex: for how much?
benkay: 2 bucks?
benkay: 5 bucks?
benkay: usd, that is.
benkay: amazon
benkay: ;;gettrust Pierre_Rochard
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user Pierre_Rochard: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=Pierre_Rochard | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Pierre_Rochard | Rated since: never
benkay: !up Pierre_Rochard
benkay: h'lo, sir
Naphex: ah for 3600 a year you could get twich that performance+1gb/s service for a year, with the server included:p
benkay: but you see i have no desire to own that server
Naphex: i know
benkay: i need it *now* for 2-6 hours, the cost of which i'm billing straight through to the client
penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/butterflylabs-updates-monarch-revises-imperial-pcb/
benkay: bfl is still a thing?
chairforce1: i read on the forum that walmart is selling a 10GH bfl miner for $300 or something
pankkake: only through tigerdirect on their website
artifexd: It's actually TigerDirect that is selling it.
chairforce1: oh
pankkake: but still, lol
artifexd: !up chairforce1
chairforce1: thanks
artifexd: np
benkay: eventually we're going to get bored, though, and you won't be a new name any more.
benkay: by that point, you should really be in the web of trust.
chairforce1: true
artifexd: Best to do that now.
pankkake: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation
assbot: wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki]
chairforce1: ok
benkay: you can do it with just a btc addr, if you don't feel like diving into gpg just yet.
benkay: but gpg is *invaluable*.
chairforce1: i dont know muhc about gpg
artifexd: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/
assbot: PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog
benkay: chairforce1: it's an encryption, decryption and signing library.
benkay: with it, one can transmit messages only a known counterparty can read, decrypt messages that only you can read, and sign messages in such a way that proves very robustly that your messages come from you.
chairforce1: great
benkay: ;;google ultimate gpg key
gribble: gpg --batch --yes --edit-key trust - GnuPG and GNUTLS Mailing List ...: <http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2010-July/039213.html>; Validating other keys on your public keyring - GnuPG: <http://gnupg.org/gph/en/manual/x334.html>; Creating the perfect GPG keypair - Alex Cabal: <https://alexcabal.com/creating-the-perfect-gpg-keypair/>
benkay: that last link will show you how to set your keyring up acceptably professionally.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30736 @ 0.00088422 = 27.1774 BTC [-]
joecool: i considered doing it that way but went the hardware route with smartcards
artifexd: I recommend that you follow BingoBoingo's advice and practice restoring your key from backup several times before committing it to the wot.
joecool: though there's some people that gen the keys on smartcard and never have it touch a system, i thought it better to gen offcard (could feed more entropy)
joecool: then backup the master and "mint" new cards from that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.21925 = 0.877 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: smartcards?
joecool: yeah
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 94 @ 0.00203372 = 0.1912 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: huh. neat.
benkay: asciilifeform: on a scale of zero to turd, what's your take on the gnupg 'fellowship' smartcard?
joecool: benkay: http://g10code.com/p-card.html <
assbot: g10 Code - Smartcard
joecool: despite what it says it does support 4096bit RSA keys with reasonably recent gnupg
benkay: hm and how ams input passphrase?
joecool: ams?
benkay: how would one
benkay: it's that youthful slang
joecool: benkay: pinentry through gnupg, it can be alphanumeric up to a pretty long length
joecool: card locks after 3 attempts on user pin, locks out reset of lock after 3 attempts on admin pin
joecool: at that point cannot use again until card is factory reset (destroys keys)
benkay: hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
benkay: i'm entirely satisfied with my approach
benkay: the important part is to generate revocation certs and store them offline, and removing the master key from the daily use device
joecool: benkay: this approach has the advantage of portability to a foreign system, i can fetch my pub keys and sign stuff with the card, walk away with card and never worry about leaving keys on foreign system
benkay: i get the appeal.
benkay: but i already live on this machine.
joecool: i didn't roll them into usage until i started using multiple systems
benkay: i probably have a multi-system setup in my future.
benkay: office box, porto-box...
joecool: on the same sense if you want a device to tool around with openpgp smartcard functionality that's easier to source
joecool: yubikey neo has a javacard port of it, keys limited to 2048bit there
joecool: https://github.com/Yubico/ykneo-openpgp <
assbot: Yubico/ykneo-openpgp GitHub
benkay: yeah but yubikey is turd
benkay: uninspectable turd
joecool: i always assumed majority of griping on them was from the OTP end, not the smartcard applet end