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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00082407 = 20.0249 BTC [-]
assbot: Pisicute pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
moiety_: mircea_popescu: they are so tiny! so cute, but they need some biscuits
moiety_: googles not translating well for me D;
moiety_: perhaps mine are just fat cats
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.06700542 = 0.7371 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27366 @ 0.00082545 = 22.5893 BTC [+]
assbot: Loperamide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mats_cd03: i may have used it a few times to punish a thief in the office
Mats_cd03: thats p much how rx research works no?
Mats_cd03: brute force all of the things. see what works, rinse, repeat.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: SSRI came from... Benadryl!
Mats_cd03: after 1 no pill a day for 4 days during a field exercise, i was literally full of shit
Mats_cd03: i used a scale...my poop was 4.6 pounds
moiety: is it just me or does the trilema header change more frequently these days?
mike_c: Mats_cd03: hopefully you weighed yourself before and after and didn't pile your shit on some poor scale.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9341 @ 0.00082545 = 7.7105 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4159 @ 0.00082669 = 3.4382 BTC [+]
assbot: Bupropion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BingoBoingo: (The interesting part is the picture... check the ring)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not useless, just... dangerous in actually useful amounts.
moiety: i get the kitten post now. good work mircea_popescu lol you need to source some ar ones.
moiety: bupropion is given rarely here as an antidepressant but more as an anti smoking thing, as its not licensed in the same was as in the us
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course, well at least it has been since MOAIs fell to the wayside.
BingoBoingo: moiety: Here Bupropion is used frequently when people discover aspects of the SSRI side effect profile.
BingoBoingo: impotence, inability to orgasm,... the full set is rather large
moiety: i had a patient that was on so many conflicting medications his liver was shutting down. every time i saw him, he was thinner and felt worse and they just wouldn't do anything. i'm worried what happened to him since i left
BingoBoingo: The only significant problem with MAOIs was they prevented selling the patient other drugs... at least drugs that aren't amphetamines
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> Mats_cd03: hopefully you weighed yourself before and after and didn't pile your shit on some poor scale. << freezer bags ftw
Mats_cd03: dafuq am i going to do with freezer bags
moiety: they have started bowel screening here for the 50+. you get cardboard sticks and instructions to shit on your bagged hand and smear it on a chart with said sticks, which you do over the course of X days and send it off to the GP
moiety: Mats_cd03: use it like a mit lol
mircea_popescu: fun fact : psychiatrists with child practices occasionally get to see cases of prepubescent kids that anally masturbate with their shit and end up with serious constipation issues
mircea_popescu: coke is an agro product. and for that matter, quite similar to sugar
mircea_popescu: so your gedanken experiment could well be carried out in a world where coke is the currency and sugar is illegal.
assbot: Vintage Commercials | Imperial Sugar
mircea_popescu: if this were true coke market in the us would be like meth market
TheNewDeal: wait are we talking about Coke or coke
TheNewDeal: I was going to say, Coke is verrry similar to sugar
TheNewDeal: still won't see it for 1 cent at your local whatnot
mircea_popescu: before every hick set his garage on fire trying to make meth
mircea_popescu: people thought organic synthesis is a cerebral endeavour
TheNewDeal: or you just have to know people that steal a gigaton of the precursor?
mircea_popescu: "Current meds: lamotrigine 300mg, topiramate 325mg, buspirone 60mg, protriptyline 60mg, EPA 600mg, methylphenidate 5-10mg, lorazepam 1mg PRN
mircea_popescu: Past meds (likely incomplete): Abilify, clonazepam, desipramine, diazepam, Gabitril, lithium, Neurontin, Paxil, prochlorperazine, Provigil, Prozac, Risperdal, Seroquel, Serzone, Strattera, Trileptal, Zyprexa"
assbot: Batshit Crazy & Medicated for your Protection
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know dude. the idea is there's no such thing in there
mircea_popescu: medical profession maybe not, but the "mental health" "professionals" definitely.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00082498 = 9.6523 BTC [-]
assbot: Batshit Crazy & Medicated for your Protection
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform people hung for just following orders at nurnberg
mircea_popescu: one day people will hang for just following orders in what once was washington, dc, too.
nubbins`: more for following the wrong ones
nubbins`: which is why one should avoid being placed in situations where one can be easily ordered
mircea_popescu: the only solution is to pick a good sovereign and stick to it.
nubbins`: or rather, where the enforcing of said ordering is a common occurrence
nubbins`: unfortunately, picking a good sovereign likely requires you to pass through the hands of the worst sovereign of them all (int'l border control)
mircea_popescu: check it out, google has managed to erase history. the only winner of nurenberg doesn't exist in the brave new world.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> good sovereign << a cryptozoological animal << this reduces to saying there's nothing to live for.
nubbins`: i've seen one of those in person
assbot: Rolf Steiner: Cow gets stuck on roof near Swiss Alps | Metro News
moiety: this cow needs some time in the park
assbot: Brazilian man slaps an opossum, gets a handful of 400 porcupine quills | Metro News
assbot: - /You are a Man ( ) - YouTube
moiety: oh nubbins`, i watched quite a few films when i was internetless. This is really good:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1242460/ (also shutter island and inception but i think i'm the only one in the world who hadn't seen those yet)
assbot: We Need to Talk About Kevin (2011) - IMDb
moiety: how on earth did that man get the two confused
TheNewDeal: and inception returns to mediocrity after you watch it a couple more times
TheNewDeal: was great the first time, good the second, ...
moiety: i don't understand how anyone could have found it confusing
TheNewDeal: or lack attention spans that last 120+ minutes
moiety: most people don't watch memento the full way through or complain it doesn't make sense either
assbot: Neighbourhood Pool Watch
moiety: i thought so too TheNewDeal
assbot: Decades Later, Someone's Discovered a New Super Mario Bros. Glitch
TheNewDeal: so does that 51% have to occur over a week time period?
kakobrekla: you will never reach my registration date!
gribble: Current Blocks: 306422 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 9 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 hour, 11 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13448095222.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.38809
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014 :: 1.3 B (62%) on Yes, 0.81 B (38%) on No | closing in 6 months 1 day| weight: 91`228 (100`000 to 1)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.21959695 = 1.5372 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Did LA Kings fans take out LAPD drone during Stanley Cup party? | Puck Daddy - Yahoo Sports
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5775 @ 0.00082669 = 4.7741 BTC [+]
mike_c: hmph. well, maybe 14 is for sure :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.0000985 = 1.4775 BTC [-] {2}
cazalla: knc bet might just get there heh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8885 @ 0.00082679 = 7.346 BTC [+] {2}
trinque: benkay: that makes me think govt control of BTC is hard to avoid
Mats_cd03: 21:29 <•TheNewDeal> gribble quit it with the ">;" crap << your client sucks, mine parses it correctly
gribble: Current Blocks: 306432 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 2015 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, 24 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 53850340580.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 300.00015
gribble: Error: The "Math" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "1.3462^1.04" in it. Try "list Math" to see the commands in the "Math" plugin.
gribble: Error: The "Math" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "1.3462**1.04" in it. Try "list Math" to see the commands in the "Math" plugin.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4664 @ 0.00082725 = 3.8583 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10060 @ 0.00082725 = 8.3221 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43350 @ 0.0008237 = 35.7074 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Cat And Lynx Become Inseparable Friends
assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 500 @ 0.00227025 = 1.1351 BTC [+] {3}
FabianB: mircea_popescu: jurov: it should do bait << it should do mp approved bait. <-- it kind of does now, even probably not what you expected
gribble: Current Blocks: 306443 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 2004 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 10 hours, 50 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 11878747551.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -11.7647
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2980 @ 0.00082725 = 2.4652 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20023447 = 0.6007 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21750 @ 0.00082464 = 17.9359 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40750 @ 0.00082731 = 33.7129 BTC [+] {2}
Apocalyptic: so Argentina is refusing to pay some US hedge funds some settlement on their debt
Vexual: yeah i read that 1.5 bn
moiety: what will happen next?
Vexual: they will still not afford it
moiety: will it just stalemate?
Apocalyptic: apparently they sent a couple of lawyers to NY
Apocalyptic: to "discuss" the matter with the judge that ordered them to pay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2001 = 0.6003 BTC [-]
Apocalyptic: Vexual, apparently it's more like 15 bn in total
Apocalyptic: the 2 funds in question are indeed owed 1.4, but this settlement will trigger payments to others funds too
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.18952502 = 0.7581 BTC [-] {4}
Vexual: i guess they owe germany gold then?
Vexual: nothing a few thousand men couldn't scratch off the surface in a month
Apocalyptic: I wonder how much US sent them back so far
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 71 @ 0.02999989 = 2.13 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: BBC News - Hidden painting found under Picasso's The Blue Room
Vexual: those suits sent to ny will do well to slow proceedings
Vexual: no wonder that guy sells for big money
moiety: buy one, get one free!
Vexual: a proper old picasso print can be had for 1nc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Container
fluffypony: so now everyone is rushing to verify that this is "nothing like Neo & Bee"
fluffypony: "aving been in communication with these guys a bit I can say that they are definitely not NEO & BEE types. These guys definitely know what they are doing and they have proven that they can deliver since they have already done so. Unlike many offerings, their technical skills and abilities are pretty well proven."
moiety: because technical ability stops you running off with peoples monies
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00082789 = 12.5839 BTC [+] {2}
Vexual: looks like havelocks answer to ghash
Vexual: and it'd be timed exactly right if not for the 3-6 month deployment time
Vexual: but it smells like catpiss and the cat is technique
gribble: Current Blocks: 306455 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1992 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 12 hours, 20 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12833387688.7 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.67364
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12450 @ 0.00082264 = 10.2419 BTC [-]
Vexual: the prospectus has anxpro on a cg container, are they affiliated?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SHA] 25 @ 0.042 = 1.05 BTC
Vexual: plus token white dude, dollar exchange, mining, stock market
gribble: One would be wise to think so.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.21889486 = 0.8756 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.21929955 = 1.0965 BTC [+] {4}
pankkake: "their technical skills and abilities are pretty well proven" => same was said about kslaugther, presented as some rock star entrepreneur and engineer (when he was neither)
mircea_popescu: these schmucks have sunk in the research and classifieds the typology nao.
mircea_popescu: the archetype of the neobee being, of course, that antonoderpulous guy.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Container
pankkake: his blind hate for anything MP
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I dared to mention that a WoT presence might be a good starting point
jurov: "it was pretty hard to not reach a positive ROI by now with most asics." this doesn't have anything to do with mp
Apocalyptic: fluffypony, "Additionally, don't confuse the possibility of them being fiat profitable with them being Bitcoin profitable" too many derps don't distinguish between the two and will generally eagerly settle for the former
mircea_popescu: the stupidity of people holding bitcoin is the one thing that can hurt bitcoin (as evidenced by say the pirate debacle, or by the fact that a million fucktarded stoners managed to give the usg a gift of 20k ish btcs)
mircea_popescu: pankkake well, it's finite see. the only way they can do something stupid in the first place is by giving it away
mircea_popescu: Vexual: can't afford it ? << actually, they could, they just dun want to.
mircea_popescu: moiety: what will happen next? <<< probably us court will try to confiscate various argentine assets in various countries, further straining its relations with the world.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic: I wonder how much US sent them back so far << the us had more sense than to put a clause in there that the matter is to be judged according to frankfurt law.
mircea_popescu: "They have something better than WOT. Real names and real business experience." ahahaha help me rwanda.
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu, in the meantime i read that they are planning to get 50% back to frankfurt in a matter of seven years or so
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic they're also planning tobalance the budget
mircea_popescu: or wait, was that, they're planning to actually send congress a budget at all, like required by law ?
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> Vexual: can't afford it ? << actually, they could, they just dun want to. // yeah they could at the expense of roughly half their USD reserves
mircea_popescu: fluffypony " Given how reliant this company is on paying backend costs in fiat" I don't follow this part.
mircea_popescu: why would fiat costs pose a problem ? it's quite clear why fiat revenues are a problem for reits etc, but costs ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: in other words, if they were paying staff and rent in Bitcoin they could present a business plan with amounts in Bitcoin
fluffypony: but they're reliant on the exchange-rate-at-the-time costs are due
assbot: How to fail gracefully as a Bitcoin business
fluffypony: having fiat-denominated expenses is not in and of itself bad, but they're going to sink virtually the entire amount into fiat costs up-front
mircea_popescu: "by investing in this company you're buying chunks of a dollar-denominated investment, because they mostly plan to sell your bitcoin and pay off fiat costs."
mircea_popescu: it's funny tho, that completely disqualifies thyem from any sort of experience or competence in the field
mircea_popescu: luckily we have years of amassed history and discussion to establish what competence/experience are, what they do and how they look like.
mircea_popescu: Mark Serbu told us, “I refused to sell my rifles to the NYPD, and when I talked about it online, it blew up like crazy. Everybody liked the idea of a gun law biting the government on the ass. There are only two manufacturers of semi-automatic 50-caliber rifles in the US, and neither will sell to the NYPD. This is like, ‘Screw you, New York.’ People are less safe without our rifles to protect you.
mircea_popescu: i had no idea they used the barrett as an anti-personnel device on the streets of the asphalt jungle
BingoBoingo: Pretty much anything not specifically designed to prevent it working, with exception as defined by the laws of physics (mountains, clouds, the sun...)
mircea_popescu: i suppose the wanna-be cool dorks love it because it's so BIG and it looks JUST LIKE IN TH MOVIES OMAYGAWD
fluffypony: I have already, will go fix past articles a bit later
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But expensive things with niche uses when less expensive more general purpose tools of quality are available is the American way!!!
mircea_popescu: One thing to note is that, generally speaking, a Bitcoin/altcoin mining operation is strictly profitable from a fiat perspective. Anyone who thinks they’re profitable from a BTC perspective needs to take a cold, hard look at the data for the past few years, and needs to couple the historical data with the inevitable delays when pre-ordering mining equipment. << this is quite true.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin mining is a perfect avenue for large players to dodge tax, whcih is why the hash is going quite so nuts.
mircea_popescu: rack up the fiat expenses so you don't make a profit, take the bitcoin home.
fluffypony: but it serves no practical purpose as an investment vehicle for those already holding Bitcoin (or who are buying Bitcoin on a monthly basis with their fiat earnings)
mircea_popescu: on top of that there's some... maybe 1-2% by now, amateurs that get to jerkoff to the thought that they're "just as much a part of bitcoin AS ANYONE"
mircea_popescu: they used to be 10% earlier this year. then again they used to be 100% a coupla years ago
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: American's didn't have the too much money problem until recently though (1950's) Kids who grew up with that mindset run the show nao though... or at least imagine they do
BingoBoingo: All of these people who grew up when the rest of the world was crippled now imagine it still is.
atcbot: 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 5k@150 49k@143 175k@142
atcbot: %t | %ticker | %book | %diff | %tx <tx_id> | %bal <address> | %mined | %block <block_height> | %lb | %tslb | %cm | %ptp | %help | %h
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 150 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 156
atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 430638.11 in 667 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -39.80
Apocalyptic: it's in quiet mode before the diff retarget
mircea_popescu: funny tho the lockstep way it works. 1k - 4k - 1.5k - 5k - 2k - 7k - 5k diff sort of thing
mircea_popescu: seems the hopper's "optimisation" is nothing but a dream in their head
mircea_popescu: since they'll be counting the "high" 5k as "low" six weeks later anyway
Apocalyptic: well the hooper's "optimisation" is disturbed by unbalanced's plan somehow
mircea_popescu: course this is a fact people who aren't familiar with atc history probably easily miss.
Apocalyptic: dunno if he started earlier than this diff period though
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 160 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 156
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic i suspect it's only disrupted by the fact that atc has the sort of backing that makes it not go anywhere. it's nailed straight to the sun as it were.
mircea_popescu: this bit of info'd quite change the optimisation, if they had it.
atcbot: 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 250k@160 500k@151 5k@150
assbot: Pour la Cour des comptes, il faut baisser le nombre de fonctionnaires
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 160 Ask: 201 Last Price: 160 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 156
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 607.51, Best ask: 609.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.49000, Last trade: 609.0, 24 hour volume: 8473.12848309, 24 hour low: 586.84, 24 hour high: 616.0, 24 hour vwap: 604.991375459
Apocalyptic: i wouldn't hazard a guess, too much for sure
pankkake: Apocalyptic: la Cour des comptes has been saying smart things for years, and has been ignored all the way
assbot: Les intermittents du spectacle occupent la Cour des comptes - L'Express
atcbot: -9 minutes and 49 seconds
pankkake: (translation : highly subsidied fake artists occupy the Court of Accounts)
atcbot: 2k@240 16k@235 50k@201 | 250k@160 500k@151 5k@150
assbot: Unisys phasing out decades-old mainframe processor for x86 chips - Computerworld
assbot: I stopped a ten million dollar robbery - Boing Boing
assbot: The Secret Service wants software that detects social media sarcasm. Yeah, sure it will work. - The Washington Post
jurov: "Ability to detect sarcasm and false positives," the request reads.
jurov: Apocalyptic why? i wouldn't put it past them?
BingoBoingo: Maybe the headline is the test? Secret Service collecting references to it as data to feed the beast...
mircea_popescu: i could use some *people* that reliably detect my sarcasm
mircea_popescu: Bill said, “We’ll lend $10 million IF we get the full $25 million on any default.” Here were the other terms Bill said.
mircea_popescu: - Bill wanted 25% of all the upside on the full $25 million in shares for the next ten years.
BingoBoingo: How was the borrower agreeing to that not a red flag that they were a fake
mircea_popescu: anyway, the post sounds legit. it's pretty much how something like that'd go.
BingoBoingo: Kinda the Roger Ver story, except he still praises and pays the loons that fleece him
mircea_popescu: “I have an idea,” I said, “I know the guy who wrote that letter. I’ll write to him and ask him if he wrote that letter. This way he independently verifies.” << the wot.
mircea_popescu: quote that to forum derp. this is exactly what we fucking do here, day in, day out.
pankkake: Vexual: why still not on the wot?
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Also get rid of that discus shit
pankkake: not that you could be easily faked
fluffypony: BingoBoingo: I hate all the other jekyll comment plugins
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Just have a send all comments to X@Y.Z email address
fluffypony: I'll see if there's something new out for jekyll that is non-JS-ish
fluffypony: I will never install Wordpress again. EVER.
BingoBoingo: Not the whole thing, just the comment form
pankkake: I've seen some automated systems to do it, finally. proper comments was the only thing I would miss with a static blog
pankkake: I haven't tried those yet though
assbot: mpalmer/jekyll-static-comments GitHub
BingoBoingo: ;;google site:trilema.com the hottest idea in bitcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.2199997 = 1.1 BTC [+]
fluffypony: will take a looksie again when I have time
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> fluffypony: Also get rid of that discus shit << srsly.
BingoBoingo: The reason to use wordpress is that it's the standard. Doing it right is hard, but all of the usefull standards are.
mircea_popescu: he's prolly tried wp past 1.x and got burned by how shitty it is
BingoBoingo: 2.X for some values of X isn't bad. Same with 3.X with caveat, that for some values of X.
fluffypony: so I asked Jimmy Boy: "I'll turn that around and ask you to list 3 mining operations that were Bitcoin profitable. To simplify, you can just list the asset, what the IPO share price was, and what BTC dividends to date would have been for 1 BTC invested."
fluffypony: to which he responds: "Petamine, asicminer, 100th mine, and most people who bought bfl hardware, AM hardware, knc hardware, bitmain hardware, a1 clones, avalon hardware, bitfury hardware."
fluffypony: apparently buying hardware == investing in an asset.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony he went to the us school of diversive argumentation.
fluffypony: and apparently "The whole internet is a web of trust."
mircea_popescu: serious politician : "name one policy your demagogy implemented that served the public"
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Maybe ask why hes till isn't Bitrich
mircea_popescu: twerp : "guncontrolobamacareglobalwarmingsmokingbanclimatechangederpyherpyderpderpherp"
mircea_popescu: costs him about 100x less to run the mouth than it costs you, and so... he's using it.
mircea_popescu: this is why, incidentally, giving people a voice is such a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: the only thing it yields is a vicious circle of ever decreasing marginal investment in speech
pankkake: also people who bought bfl profited?!
mircea_popescu: what a healthy society needs are lemon laws for speech.
xmj: mircea_popescu: lemon laws?
xmj: as in, The Market For Lemons ?
mircea_popescu: problem with trying to implement that however is that it's too fucking sweet for whoever's in charge to hijack it into oppression of dissent
mircea_popescu: so basically society only works for as long as society enforces some sort of equivalent by itself. which is also why there can never be a society of "laws not men".
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7724 @ 0.00008136 = 0.6284 BTC [-] {6}
BingoBoingo: Sorta like the dilema by which Bitcoin is great for a well lawed and ordered society yet incredibly hostile to regulation
mircea_popescu: sure. but nothing cuts itself. evntually you get to a prime mover.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00082119 = 7.7192 BTC [-]
assbot: The Scientific Way to Cut a Cake - YouTube
mircea_popescu: incidentally, what's the us black slang to denote a woman in her 20s that spends her life naked in the household of some local lord / trap star ?
mircea_popescu: or so common & obvious it really doesn't need a word for itself
fluffypony: a pie chart is called a camembert chart in French?
BingoBoingo: The latter it seems from my limited knowledge
pankkake: fluffypony: fun thing, it's called just "un camembert", not even "graphe en camembert"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i wonder how they manage to shoot videos tbh. if i were living the limited lifespan of a rappar, i couldn't give less of a shit as to what tv convntions are.
mircea_popescu: must seem so fucken plastic & fake. "whyz dese bitches dresst anyway?!?!"
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FabianB: <+mircea_popescu> FabianB how does it do bait ? <-- not exactly, i mean this:
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BingoBoingo: Yeah, amazing how sometimes events make the errors irrelevant.
BingoBoingo: I was kinda hoping Ghana would have won that one
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.21999999 = 2.64 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: Detroit and Chicago are cheaper stand ins for China than... China
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 64 @ 0.23955234 = 15.3313 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.245 = 2.45 BTC [+] {2}
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 26 @ 0.24384615 = 6.34 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00082825 = 10.5188 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: "I was shaking. We had spoken to Evil on the phone." ahaha dude how fucking overdramatic can altucher get.
mircea_popescu: a fraudster stands to evil in the relationship an army major stands to the government.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.22000065 = 2.2 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: I dunno if even a Madoff level fraudster makes it as an officer candidate in the Evil Army
mircea_popescu: evil is traditionally used as the catchall for anything anyone perceives as contrarian or enmitous and isn't readily reducible.
BingoBoingo: Well, in the heirarchy I imagine Pol Pot makes Colnel... barely
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mircea_popescu: actually pretty much the only usecase i'm aware of is when you want to do basically the equivalent of issuing yourself a limited preloaded card.
mircea_popescu: i never use the cards associated with my various business accounts, ever. but if they came with a diy kit where i could create my own subcards, preload them and discard them... maybe, just maybe.
fluffypony: even if it's only creating virtual cards initially
BingoBoingo: Yeah, a decent low fee prepaid card is basically a money condom
fluffypony: and use them online for a month or two
mircea_popescu: no fucking way am i sharing an account that may well have fiddy million in it with some random guy with a pony tail in whatever restaurant
mircea_popescu: no matter how ridiculous counting fiddy hundred dollar bills may look to the sort of people i don't fuck anyway
mircea_popescu: ever want to get a kickass car ? it's simple : buy a red jacket and a cap, sit by the entrance to an expensive restaurant
mircea_popescu: "o, he thought you were the vallet". well that's fine, you thought he was santa.
mircea_popescu: Yiannis Chrysanthou, a security researcher who recently completed his MSc thesis on modern password cracking, was able to crack the password "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn1."
mircea_popescu: up until you realise some total dork took a line off lovercraft, as-is.
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mircea_popescu: i really recommend that thing. fucking special characters rock for the purpose.
BingoBoingo: Bash hasn't updated in a while... is it on Mats_cd03's no poop pills?
jurov: !down mircea_popescu
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mircea_popescu: "Due to the fake account troll below this post has been moved." ahahaha
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mircea_popescu: ;;rate fluffypony 2 Businessman that now owes me a steak.
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ansc: mp: what are your thoughts on icbit.se ?
mircea_popescu: that's a year or two old by now. perhaps things changed. not sure why they would have.
mircea_popescu: should be fucking framed. " Are you finished? Your wrong.", trhen guy goes back and edits it once it's pointed out
ansc: interesting piece. from that perspective, nothing has changed. no need to update. thank you for the link.
mircea_popescu: the boon #bitcoin-assets bestows upon they who come seeking wisdom is great indeed.
ansc: haha right. i must say i do agree.
atcbot: 2k@240 16k@235 50k@201 | 250k@160 500k@151 5k@150
fluffypony: the dude seems like a reasonable guy, he's very open about that and the appliance thing being fiat businesses, but I think he's struggling to find anyone around him willing to invest because, hey, porn site
atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 160 Ask: 201 Last Price: 201 24h-Vol: 7k High: 235 Low: 150 VWAP: 157
fluffypony: I told him to get on here and get in the WoT as it'll help with future ventures
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mircea_popescu: what, i love pron sites. heck, im STILL trying to get in touch with that pleasantly uninhibited chick from reddit.
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Vexual: lol lowecase me is gone
mircea_popescu: anarkitty. hey, this creates a new usecase for gribble. leave a note for osmeone, remember their name.
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for what it's worth the dilemma is irreducible.
mircea_popescu: on one hand, the slipped up theory is convincing. on the other hand, the sort of scammer/internet fraudster depicted often tries to run a hosting business on the side
mircea_popescu: so it may be a clueless noob that got a GREAT webhosting offer
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ansc: ok anyway, it's about the fed imposing exit fees on bond funds.
mircea_popescu: actually... i think it was predicted here months ago :p
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is indeed astounding how the bad habits of both groups align this way
BingoBoingo: A and B are indistiguishable at x,y because they do the same thing at that point.
BingoBoingo: I wonder if herbi will ever try his hand at ATC again
Vexual: didn't you take all his moneys?
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Sure, at the time, but noa his is busy with OMG acquisitions!!! in his most recent messages.
BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Douches are good, they are a force for cleansing
ansc: interesting that the odds are so much in favor of btc with brk/a trading @189k
punkman: now it tells me when I've already bet on a proposition and calculates the total along with hypothetical bets. Handy for topping up a bet
ansc: so one could calculate the implicit interest rate of btc based on these probabilities
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8142 @ 0.00082492 = 6.7165 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ansc: Well, I think the tool being tried for the effort at large now is f.mpif
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021664 BTC (Total: 433.28 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021703 BTC [-]
assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 171.02517117 BTC; +0.16054045 BTC (+0.0940%) since last check 11h 38m 47s ago.
Naphex: BingoBoingo: we're going live with EUR/USD next week. will you be sticking to ron or going for EUR/USD?;p
BingoBoingo: Naphex: It depends on how the book looks. I'll prolly announce the June or July statement if I've moved into that pairing or not, pending consultation with the general manager. I'll watch at for least weeks, emphasis plural, before making a decision.
BingoBoingo: Naphex: In BTC/Fiat I am exceedingly cautions
BingoBoingo: Naphex: I'm trading by hand so any moves into fiat occur only when I'm awake and ready to put in a lower bid very soon after fulfillment. << As this in in the chan it is an official disclosure. Nao.. Good luck figuring out my sleep wake cycle... if there is a discernable one.
BingoBoingo: I as mentioned before really didn't start until I beat herbi. Before I occasionally bet substituting exchanges for bookies.
Naphex: how are you likeing it doing it as a full time job?
BingoBoingo: I do this pretty much as I mention in the statements. It's a thing... I do it. I'll offer a range of more than most actual work the lowest performing civil servants do, but still less than nubbins` when he is in extreme focused art mode. (I estimate that to be between 0 and all of the hours in a week)
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BingoBoingo: I wouldn't know how. My fumbling attemps at mining never met going to a pool
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BingoBoingo: I think one of the most important moments of my development was when as a child I learned the trophie store is an actual place
cazalla: that's a memory i have too.. i use to play soccer, cherished the ribbons and trophies, figured out you could buy yourself the biggest and engrave anything for doing nothing killed the motivation to play
Naphex: cazalla: the trick to being pro is getting paid to play :)
Naphex: you can scam trophies on everything :P
cazalla: i actually played with a pro, he got dumped from the aussie team this world cup though
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cazalla: he bought me a he-man for my 7th birthday party
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I took away that anyone can have anything engraved and realized you can conceal success.
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Naphex: and his gonna mention LOVECoin
Naphex: they want it recognized like baitcoin
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punkman: 'Amazon patents 1-click blockchain transaction'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9061 @ 0.0008265 = 7.4889 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.0687777 = 1.7194 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 26 @ 0.069 = 1.794 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> what hppened to pity the pool? << ddos wars raging
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ThickAsThieves: [04:54] <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves so is atc taking over the ltc role ? /// well it *should* take over the role of all other coins of no distinction
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.0008265 = 6.0335 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> ThickAsThieves you need a comment permalink ///hrm, i'm not sure how to enable such ... ?
ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> incidentally, what's the us black slang to denote a woman in her 20s that spends her life naked in the household of some local lord / trap star ? /// gold digger, groupie, slut -- i'm not sure proper word exists, not that this is even a common thing
ThickAsThieves: <gribble> Sent 1 week, 0 days, 11 hours, and 38 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> Altcoin is holding me back. /// hehe, how can i help?
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nubbins`: "a woman in her 20s that spends her life"
thestringpuller: nubbins`: do you have a tracking number for the shirt btw?
nubbins`: chetty: cue the "counterfeit" redskins jerseys / memorabilia
nubbins`: thestringpuller: sorry, was waiting a couple days to see if more orders came in. shirt's getting printed today. tracking is too costly, most people opt out
nubbins`: you can add it if you like tho, i think it's around an extra $10
nubbins`: oh and hey, did you say you wanted the #b-a / freenode text on the back?
chetty: re:redskins decision// que the counterfeit everything, trademarks just became a joke
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mike_c: who is 'rethink-your-strategy'? that is some skilled trolling.
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pankkake: nubbins`: French would drive them mad
nubbins`: "they" generally works but would sound odd in a group setting
pankkake: the worst is job names. some can be gendered, some not, and even the French don't know what to do of them
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 144 @ 0.06580291 = 9.4756 BTC [-] {13}
assbot: North America's Bitcoin Roadshow Offers Free Car as Grand Prize
bitcoinpete: they're basically driving a kia across north america to "raise awareness"
bitcoinpete: then giving away the car or $10k worth of bitcoins
bitcoinpete: as fucking if someone takes the beat-up car instead of the coins
bitcoinpete: maybe mpex or bitbet should slap their logo on the side of this thing
bitcoinpete: i'm sure spots are for sale for an outrageous amount of money ;)
mike_c: ThickAsThieves: what do you think about creating seeds.therealaltcoin.org with node seeds.
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pankkake: the seeds I configured in the client are probably not working anymore
mike_c: they don't appear to be returning anything
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00082933 = 15.0109 BTC [+] {2}
fluffypony: it's a round-robin list that's dynamically refreshed on an ongoing basis
☟︎ mike_c: well that sounds like a nice enhancement eventually
pankkake: I've done all my altcoins with simple A records I updated myself
pankkake: but yes that requires knowning about the nodes
mike_c: but right now we are at ground zero with seeding.
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mike_c: so.. you're saying you'll run it ;)
fluffypony: if someone gets the source code working I'll gladly throw it on a box
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.065 = 1.105 BTC [-]
mike_c: core dev? any spare time to port to altcoin-seeder?
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punkman: that was a good pedicure, now I need a haircut
punkman: damn barber retired, gotta find a new one
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 206 @ 0.0289003 = 5.9535 BTC [-]
nubbins`: i've been cutting my own hair for about 7 years now
nubbins`: sometimes it turns out terrible :D
Naphex: nubbins`: why would somebody cut their own hair?
nubbins`: why would anyone do anything for themselves?
punkman: it's one of those things you can't do very well on your own
Naphex: yes but why not just pay someone to do it
Naphex: you don't have to pay attention and maybe you get a sweet skull massage :)
punkman: Naphex, I cut them myself last couple of times, with a little help from the girl, since the barber is not around
punkman: my biggest problem is the shitty shampoo everyone has
mircea_popescu: nubbins` sucks his own cock, eats his own cooking, he's a solipsist.
punkman: and they use too much of it too
Naphex: anything with electric razor or bald doesn't count:P
chetty: we are on to hair cuts? what happened to the fingernail polish, ladies?
nubbins`: if i could suck my own cock i wouldn't be wasting my time on irc
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 22 @ 0.0289004 = 0.6358 BTC [+]
nubbins`: mp, i think that's not the first time you've called me that
nubbins`: maybe. not that surprising i guess
nubbins`: Naphex: i don't pay someone else to cut my hair for the same reason i don't pay someone else to cook my food
nubbins`: me going to a barber for a haircut would make as much sense as going to a restaurant for a bowl of cereal
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gribble: Current Blocks: 306518 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1929 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 8 hours, 19 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 15413140721.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.48876
Naphex: 18:24 <+nubbins`> i've been cutting my own hair for about 7 years now
Naphex: 18:24 -!- mjr_1 [~Thunderbi@190.105.171.186] has joined #bitcoin-assets
Naphex: 18:24 <+nubbins`> sometimes it turns out terrible :D
nubbins`: and then i can't even fix it because i throw out all my scissors and clippers when i'm done :(
nubbins`: unlike a barber shop, where you can come in the next day for a free tune-up if you don't like what they've done
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 27.09655160 BTC to 9`095 shares, 297928 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 30 @ 0.02033915 = 0.6102 BTC [-] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69867315 BTC to 9`095 shares, 18677 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 457 @ 0.01949056 = 8.9072 BTC [-] {13}
gribble: korbman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 32 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <Korbman> or else I wouldn't be on here haha :P
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fluffypony: still a better post than Jimmothy's comment on GPG
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.06329633 = 2.5319 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6664 @ 0.00082981 = 5.5299 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: Fun fact: out of 10310 bitbets, only 313 have lost money betting on the winning side, and only 100 of those had a weight of 10k
☟︎ mircea_popescu: o look, south africa actually uses the ancient dce concept. nao i don't need to fumble trying to explain to people what domicile means anymoar! just reference south african law!
punkman: another tidbit: 52.3 % of bets picked the winning side, with total gain of 2644 BTC
punkman: total amount in 9393 BTC, gain 2633 BTC
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: I still use DCE when drawing up an MoU for a freelancer in another country
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31650 @ 0.00082842 = 26.2195 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: i thought it was mostly forgotten as a legal term cca 1898 or something
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fluffypony: and then almost as an afterthought "ohey, fundraising is in Bitcoin and so are dividend payments"
mircea_popescu: what i mean is specifically this : that the construction of recourse and remedy on the infrastructure of fiat is not going to work.
mircea_popescu: if it were going to work, fiat-based intl merchants wouldn't have such a fucking headache.
mircea_popescu: why did "bill" and everyone else involved seem to think that once the 10mn is wired, that's it, the fraudster won ?
mircea_popescu: why, specifically because the fiat method does not work.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06899789 = 0.69 BTC [-]
fluffypony: I agree with that - it was more to show that personal liability is always an option on the fiat side (reckless trading etc.), so this idea that you can burn a registered company and walk away and start a new one is also flawed
fluffypony: because that's the other thing that seems to be big, especially on the forums
fluffypony: "I can show business registration papers so therefore"
fluffypony: like registering a business in and of itself makes it flawless
mircea_popescu: if you do, you can. if you're random joe blow you can not, but then again this stuff is not for you anyway,
benkay: "CAN I HAVE BITCOINZ NOA?" << lol
mircea_popescu: so it's really a blind alley : those on whom it'd work are probably the same set that think "bitcoin is bad" or w/e
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and even so soviet tax collection was better than the tsar's.
punkman: mircea_popescu: average time from winning bet placement to resolution is 42 days
mircea_popescu: i wasn't watching at the time, but did ayone in the early 90s/late 80s say hey, lenin's nep previewed what'll happen here ?
punkman: 9393 was only the winners' input btw
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.0008269 = 16.9515 BTC [-] {3}
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chetty thinks MP has been reading tea leaves again// "- I suppose you’ve never learned of the law that protects people’s rights and propety…"
chetty: goes so nice with theft of redskins trademark
chetty: the states stand up so well to the feds these days
punkman: asciilifeform: what's that
chetty: asciilifeform, greping for ips? wish I had some time for funs
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Naphex: or coinzone or whatever
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 90 @ 0.01979875 = 1.7819 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06550729 = 0.6551 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.06323412 = 1.5809 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00082375 = 14.498 BTC [-] {4}
mthreat: asciilifeform: that nsa-spiegel-snowden PDF is pretty interesting. It seems like Germany is basically part of the "five eyes" countries, which would make it "six eyes"
benkay: <mircea_popescu> incidentally, what's the us black slang to denote a woman in her 20s that spends her life naked in the household of some local lord / trap star ? // video ho in the rap industry
benkay: punkman: that's lookin all right man
mike_c: yeah, very cool. when do we get to play with it?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00082603 = 4.0062 BTC [+]
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 1.39 B (58%) on Yes, 0.99 B (42%) on No | closing in 1 week 1 day| weight: 92`453 (100`000 to 1)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.0635 = 2.8575 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.06349999 = 0.762 BTC [-] {3}
los_pantalones: does anyone know if the us govt has control the private keys on the silk road wallets ?
los_pantalones: i was always under the impression that they didn't have control of that
mike_c: possiblity? SR coins can be sold now. DPR coins can't be sold until conviction.
los_pantalones: fluffypony you understood that was the process or that the feds do not have the private keys
fluffypony: they don't have the keys (at least not that they've admitted to), but once they have them they can beat the keys out of him with a wrench
fluffypony: Joe "The Plumber" Kazinsci will work his wrench magic on DPR
empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR
benkay: ;;later tell BingoBoingo herbi's back?
assbot: List of Possible Silk Road Bitcoin Bidders Allegedly Leaked by US Marshals
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punkman: no it's 15kb of pure horror
kakobrekla: title = AttrMap(Filler(Text(['BITBET.PY', '\n', 'DELUXE EDITION'],align='center'),valign='middle'), 'banner') < WIN
punkman: there's some work to get to AMAZING
punkman: why isn't the hashbang working, how do I linux?
mike_c: don't you need a space?
mike_c: doesn't look like it, ignore me.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00082697 = 7.7322 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: nanotube, first name on the list
Naphex: so there is a list of bidders
Naphex: anyone did any intel on the bidders yet?
Naphex: anyone got the full bcc?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.06943859 = 1.2499 BTC [+] {2}
l337: why couldn't you do it, los_pantalones?
l337: ah, didn't notice that
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l337: is MP pricing bitcoin @ $10k, did I get that right?
chetty: well he is making a point about not selling cheap if you got em to hold
chetty: I dont think we actually have very good price signals atm
l337: what would constitute a good price signal tho?
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davout: los_pantalones Naphex i have 21 more e-mail addresses in mine
los_pantalones: oh, fo realz? why didn't they get dox'd with the rest ?
los_pantalones: sorry, per'aps that was something i shouldn't have asked
davout: there are a few addresses that have no associated name, a couple folks that lead to multiple google hits
davout: also no, i'm not bidding, and i didn't inquire
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16541 @ 0.00082894 = 13.7115 BTC [+]
FabianB: l337: if you lurk a few month you'll know better
FabianB: l337: if you don't look short-time you might realize it's not current fiat/btc price that matters
l337: I seem to know that already, it's the long-term value I am interested in
fluffypony: long-term I already know the price of Bitcoin
fluffypony: ;;8ball will 1 Bitcoin = 1 Bitcoin by the time we hit 2030?
gribble: One would be wise to think so.
l337: it must be painful spending it once the dollar goes to shit
jurov: hi all, any news around X.IDIFF.JUN?
mike_c: no settlement announcement yet
mike_c: i assume that means it will be capped.
empyex: FabianB: [X.IDIFF.JUN] Bids:
empyex: FabianB: [X.IDIFF.JUN] Asks: 4806 @ 0.01189900 100000 @ 0.01190000 1 @ 0.01200000
mike_c: dangerous trading on settlement day.
davout: chetty: "whats a dollar?" <<< just a letter away from a collar
fluffypony: chetty: it's like Bitcoin but centralised and it has a random annual inflation set by this centralised issuer. also no block reward, lame.
jurov: yes, it's frozen on coinbr and I would like to close it today, tmrw will be mostly afk
mike_c: mircea_popescu hasn't said anything
jurov: that's why i'm asking
mike_c: just highlighting him :)
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jurov: ;;calc 4250217919*2.9
mike_c: i would hope so. diff flipped on the 18th though.
mike_c: but since it hasn't been announced yet, i assume capped.
mike_c: (and i may or may not be talking my book here)
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fluffypony: "If you are on my investors mailing list this is the email number. Please cross check.
fluffypony: To confirm email please match numbers.
fluffypony: who needs gee pee gee when you have sekrit kodez on forumz
mike_c: if only there were a way to verify who wrote an email..
punkman: yo dawg I heard u like difficulty: "The header is signed with the coinbase transaction's private key, and the hash (SHA256(SIG(header, privkey))) of that signature is smaller than a second difficulty parameter Y. "
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00082643 = 8.099 BTC [-]
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dignork: punkman: this proposition does not solve anything really. gigahash will run his private servers to solve the second puzzle, happily keeping 99% of hashing power.
punkman: I'm sure it's braindamaged
dignork: tl;dr version: we add another puzzle with controllable difficulty, which pool will have to solve, but it uses privkey, so he won't outsource it.
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mircea_popescu: <punkman> 9393 was only the winners' input btw << well yes.
mircea_popescu: * chetty thinks MP has been reading tea leaves again// << the funny thingbeing... i don't even drink that much tea :D
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ^ choice turdlets << ahahaha the ips are the lulzy part.
mircea_popescu: <Naphex> tre' sa fie si puletii nostri in rind cu puletii lor, nu se poa'.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.065 = 0.91 BTC [-]
Naphex: mircea_popescu: omu numa prostii observa si invata vad ca
Naphex: at some point maybe people will wise up and stop comming into bitcoin like its hipster web3.0
mircea_popescu: ok so believe it or not, trilema credits just had its first hash collision. two guys with very reasonable emails + their ips hash as the same thing. who knew.
Naphex: the cookie hashing scheme seemed a bit lacking
mircea_popescu: Naphex not gonna happen. remember patriciu thinking he's going to be rich by copying berlusconi (adevarul),
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00082578 = 6.6888 BTC [-]
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Naphex: doubt it would sound that good in english
Naphex: romanian has a good way of adding feeling into writing :)
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones: does anyone know if the us govt has control the private keys on the silk road wallets ? << they claim they do.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: they don't have the keys (at least not that they've admitted to), but once they have them they can beat the keys out of him with a wrench << this is a dubious proposition at best.
mircea_popescu: the difference between us being, of course, that i've had occasion to beat things out of people.
TheNewDeal: MP, i thought the US has the wallets, but they do not have the password to unencrypt
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Naphex: here is a question, will USMS send the bitcoin to the winer or give him private keys/paper wallet?:)
TheNewDeal: surprised he didn't have it backed up anywhere?
mircea_popescu: for all the usg knows, we all have a copy, and the keys, and are sitting here lolling at their punk ass.
TheNewDeal: what do you mean exclusive, like the sole copy?
mircea_popescu: punkman: no it's 15kb of pure horror << lol make it longer!
mircea_popescu: btw, if the usms manages to get SCAMMED out of the sale...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13013 @ 0.00082547 = 10.7418 BTC [-] {2}
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Naphex: mircea_popescu: was that interview in romanian or translated?
mircea_popescu: jurov: hi all, any news around X.IDIFF.JUN? << was announced.
BingoBoingo: 2.5 ish is stil close to 10% of their last fundraising round
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: herr taleb alternates between ruminating on his personal sense of brilliance and excellent pedigree, and... punching a boxer's bag. how much fun to watch a man punch a bag? << kinda why i wanted him to come here.
mircea_popescu: it's my estimation that he's like a russian hound running with pudels,
mircea_popescu: which is the worst thing that can happen to the hound. the poodles... well... what do they care.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo btw, do you know about how much a round COSTS ?
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> i saw. wise decision. << haha why, did it make you moneyz ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: No, but I assume it costs a lot of sweat and treasure... and equity
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: who needs gee pee gee when you have sekrit kodez on forumz << epic lol
mircea_popescu: you gotta pay all sorts of people, and generally upfront fees.
mircea_popescu: this is why corps that blow a round and surivive are so rar.
mircea_popescu: also exactly where the vc wants them : once they're in the ring they pretty much gotta close, no matter what the termsheet.
mircea_popescu: "Confirmado: no hay precio para el dólar. Nadie vende, solo compran a $ 12.30".
benkay: lol except for the machinery
benkay: how on earth are you supposed to run a machine shop when they hold your mills at the border?
mircea_popescu: "Overall, it provides a gentle fix to the recent GHash fiasco"
mircea_popescu: i guess scammers and academics will never stfu are they
benkay: seriously mircea_popescu how can one have a good time without CNC machinery?
benkay: how to get a big-boy mill into ars?
mircea_popescu: The header is signed with the coinbase transaction's private key, and the hash (SHA256(SIG(header, privkey))) of that signature is smaller than a second difficulty parameter Y.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck can current miners preserve ths investment lmao
benkay: except that it gets stopped at the border.
mircea_popescu: "This mechanism is easy to devise following a community discussion that establishes the principles"
benkay: some argentinian. to keep me from doing things?
TheNewDeal: you can't import cnc equipment into argentina?
benkay: the word i got was that large, tech-heavy equipment gets stalled at the border.
☟︎ TheNewDeal: who's going to run a cnc shop? I work on cnc equipment at the moment
benkay: but i'd just looooooove to plop down 600k to test the theory.
benkay: it's on the list of things to buy, TheNewDeal .
TheNewDeal: we could import it in parts and then bujild it
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TheNewDeal: oh that's lame, they showed the email with blacked out names
dignork: TheNewDeal: dunno who blacked the names, somebody got the full list though
dignork: usms later said that these are not bidders, just people that where asking for clarifications
TheNewDeal: or at least that is what the article claims
TheNewDeal: in other news, "US Marshal only spelled with one L"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5136 @ 0.00082459 = 4.2351 BTC [-]
TheNewDeal: you're asking for many questions from people who will be very suspicious and will not understand your answers
jurov: you should have painted it as doomsday device
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 51 @ 0.068 = 3.468 BTC [+] {2}
TheNewDeal: thats what I was seeing when I looked it up. quite amazed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06987478 = 0.6987 BTC [+]
TheNewDeal: what do they have in university labs? I always assumed those ones were very inexpensive
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TheNewDeal: ascii why did you say that buproprion is useless?
BingoBoingo: I'm telling you that cholorine atom on the ring is the only thing holding it back from greatness and success in the back alley
TheNewDeal: what is the way to rate a dopamine reuptake inhibitor
BingoBoingo: It's really amazing how many catecholemine affecting drugs are merely the base chemical with various things snipped or tacked on...
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jurov: dudes and gals, you were really in bashful mood recently
Naphex: so.. iphone with windows ui, got it
Naphex: lousy name for a product though, fire phone
mike_c: i think amazon runs custom droid builds
punkman: but jurov he only wanted to lurk
BingoBoingo: justlurking: You could do the thing I did, pick a silly name and then later find out you are stuck with it.
benkay: that will definitely happen.
benkay: pick a name you like and use it.
justlurking: yep, starting my 6 month indoctrination thanks to pete