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cazalla: mats_cd03, i bet i can get andreas to retweet
cazalla: and then swap the content out heh
cazalla: like a cake, it's needs to stay in the oven a bit longer before i serve it to him
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Maybe do a piece on how Chuck Tayor would have solved Liberia's Ebola with Dogecoin?
cazalla: that's an idea, next one i'm writing is "was satoshi a black man?"
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ben_vulpes: an acquaintance of mine was recently derping on his girl's phone, as there was a hilarious loop where her old phone had 16G of stuff and was utterly full, bought a new phone with...16G of storage, connected it to her 'iCloud' account, and watched as the thing immediately filled up and bricked itself
ben_vulpes: DURING the hacker fix process for this (which ultimately entailed deleting the iCloud account in question), my acquaintance and sometime colleague was browsing through the lady's photos to find...
ben_vulpes: his hypotheses: she'd plugged his phone into her computer at some point and "sure whatevere"'d all his photos onto her computer, and thence to apple
Diablo-D3: [10:44:37] <ben_vulpes> an acquaintance of mine was recently derping on his girl's phone, as there was a hilarious loop where her old phone had 16G of stuff and was utterly full, bought a new phone with...16G of storage, connected it to her 'iCloud' account, and watched as the thing immediately filled up and bricked itself
ben_vulpes: well "immediately" per the local pipe throughput
Diablo-D3: even if you restore a backup from icloud, it doesn't restore your photos into your local photo storage
Diablo-D3: it keeps them in the icloud storage
Diablo-D3: you have to manually go into the photo app and tell it to copy selected photos to local
ben_vulpes: there is also a "sync my data" thinger for new phones.
Diablo-D3: ben_vulpes: yeah, but iphones are locked down
Diablo-D3 just had to rescue someone's fucked up ios8 upgrade on an iphone 5c
Diablo-D3: I went from having 0 experience with iphones to fixing them
Diablo-D3: as much as I hate android, dear god its so much better
ben_vulpes: > 2 days experience, Diablo-D3's an iOS expert
Diablo-D3: ben_vulpes: I dunno, it was fucking bullshit
Diablo-D3: what fucked it up is all this icloud shit
Diablo-D3: and the fact you need 4.7gb of free storage on a 5c to upgrade to ios8
Diablo-D3: and theres only about 12.3gb of usable storage on said 16gb phone
ben_vulpes: the displays system preference gives one two radio buttons:
Diablo-D3: so you need 1/3rd of your ufcking phone
Diablo-D3: ben_vulpes: best for display just selects the correct scaled for retina
ben_vulpes: selecting "scaled" gives you 4 options
Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: no, tried through the itunes usb shit too
ben_vulpes: jesus Diablo-D3 let a guy tell a story ffs
Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: and it gets even better
Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: the icloud storage was filled almost completely with an incomplete backup
Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: because the phone tried to backup to 5gb of storage
Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: and my neighbor just said icloud was broken and she never used it
Diablo-D3: it was broken because it was full with a backup that ios should have never tried making
Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: I mean, thats even the bigger fucking problem
Diablo-D3: apple ships phones with icloud backup automatically enabled
Diablo-D3: so, out of the box, your phone is broken
Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: and itunes's UX is so insane that theres no way to backup the photos
Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: they expect you to use icloud for it independently of the make backup thing in itunes
Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: so I had to go and fucking copy them out of the DCIM folder on the phone
Diablo-D3: asciilifeform: so what I did do is
ben_vulpes: there is iPhoto. it copies photos from the i* pretty trivially.
decimation: imagine if ios/osx/windows had a new release that was smaller than the previous turd
decimation: people would be outraged because "you are stealing our new features"
ben_vulpes: well she's on the right track. have you seen technical incompetents try to use android phones?
ben_vulpes: the android platform does a magical job of implementing software-accelerated phone aging.
ben_vulpes: apple's done a decent job on the software jailing, so the phone operating system doesn't rot quite as quickly as its counterparts, so they're forced to release new "operating systems" that consume ever more resources.
ben_vulpes: on android, the users saw their *own* feet off.
decimation: ben_vulpes: agreed, my android phone magically rots, even despite my attempts to trim shit
ben_vulpes: the only people happy with androids are those with the budget to replace them every 8 months
ben_vulpes: or the technical savvy to wipe the things, ibid
TomServo: Where are all the phones with hardware keyboards, is what I'd like to know.
decimation: I have hardware keyboard on my android
ben_vulpes: my father sent me out with his startac when i was a wee one, for 'supervision'.
ben_vulpes: i forgot i had any electronics on me, went romping through a fountain, fried a legendarily high quality phone.
thestringpuller: you mean the phone's hardware can't keep up with the updates?
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decimation: before this one I actually had a nexus 4 (2013 model) for a month, dropped it from 18 inches and it cracked
☟︎ TomServo: decimation: Hey cool thanks, didn't know about that one.
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ben_vulpes: (succ being something along the lines of "next enum, plz")
decimation: ben_vulpes: I downloaded and played with some of the arrayforth devkit stuff
decimation: I was sad when I found you couldn't just edit in text, you need to use the 'colorforth' gui tool
ben_vulpes: the sellnow nicks have already paraded through
decimation: nevertheless they are neat chips, I might buy a devkit soon
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> know how we like to laugh at our ancestors' hygiene ? << quite this.
mircea_popescu: there's going to be little as amusing as "security practices" of the 2010s freeranged interderp.
mircea_popescu: TomServo> Where are all the phones with hardware keyboards, is what I'd like to know. << africa and my vaults.
decimation: they exist, just not being marketed by sexy
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mircea_popescu: run 12 instances of curl off a huge file with awk 'NR%12==n only to discover that the fucking thing keeps blocking itself.
decimation: At an electronics market in central Beijing, one retailer was recently selling the low-end iPhone 6 and 6 Plus for 6,500 renminbi to 8,800 renminbi ($1,060 to $1,436), down from 12,000 renminbi to 15,000 renminbi ($1,960 to $2,450) just after the release.
mircea_popescu: work a third shift, make yourself a bunch of ipads too.
decimation: when everyone wants an ipad that works well, but it appears apple's sexy has worn off a bit
ben_vulpes: they still go for a decent markup in ars
Diablo-D3: did someone really class action bfl?
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Diablo-D3: because I find it hilarious that people are just NOW realizing
Diablo-D3: and lost my bitcointalk modship over it
Diablo-D3: because apparently bfl was a smart enough scammer to "donate" a lot of money to bitcointalk
decimation: it will be depressing to watch google slowly merge into usg
decimation: it rings the bell labeled "no escape" for all to hear in us-land
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, ever seen the lives of others ?
decimation: in fact the evidence we have is that they have tried to merge with usg since it became thinkable
mircea_popescu: it's gets enough very subtle things exactly right for me to call it an passible teaching substitute for actual experience
mircea_popescu: also check out what butchery i made of english in that phrase!
decimation: he was probably in some air conditioned bunker "in the field"
decimation: asciilifeform: have you taken the CADR verilog design published by Mr. Parker and run them on your own chip?
decimation: no but it would be an interesting exercise in archaeology
decimation: yeah good point. I'm gonna work on getting my 'opengenera' vm working again
decimation: asciilifeform: lol. Yeah when I saw demos of genera, I thought "wait, did they invent hypertext too"?
decimation: it seems like it is a hell of alot better than the shit berners-lee put out
thestringpuller: did Diablo-D3 ever get around to making that 1mn dollar company that would be the end all to mining datacenters?
Diablo-D3: I refunded investors and pulled out
Diablo-D3: but yeah, the whole DMC thing was hilarious
Diablo-D3: people keep calling me scam over it
Diablo-D3: yet it paid out more than was originally invested
dub: sure, just not to the people who bought at IPO
Diablo-D3: dub: actually a lot of them stuck until the end and got their money back
Diablo-D3: the only people who "lost" were those who idiotically paniced
Diablo-D3: ben_vulpes: yeah, luke-jr is a scam
dub: I doubt that but it should have been a whorthwhile lesson
Diablo-D3: ben_vulpes: its why I dont care about wot, its not policed
dub: anyway, you can't put a price on education, Diablo-D3 is no scammer
ben_vulpes: i know danielpbarron vaguely, i know Luke-Jr vaguely, i know how to weight their ratings
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: no, you're a troll
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: yes, Im a troll that wrote a very important piece of software that a lot of people donated a lot of money to help make happen
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: now only if you could do that.
ben_vulpes: aaaaah dig nanotube's rating of magicaltux
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: lol, so important that nobody uses it
Diablo-D3: no profit in it, even if you own asics
dub: they all use the software you plagiarised now Luke-Jr
Luke-Jr: dub: I have always given full credit to all authors and contributors of BFGMiner
dub: thestringpuller: this is actually why the wot is broken
Luke-Jr: dub: it's not broken, it works well
Diablo-D3: bfgminer = cgminer fork that luke-jr did because ck wouldnt merge his shit patches
Luke-Jr: BFGMiner = cgminer-the-GPU-miner + FPGA and ASIC support
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: except ck added fpga and asic support himself
Luke-Jr: cgminer = BFGMiner fork because ck wanted free hardware for doing nothing
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Diablo-D3: free hardware fo rdoing nothing? nope
Diablo-D3: he wanted the hardware on hand to actually test changes
Diablo-D3: and guess what? he got the hardware in the end.
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: you forget, I actually know ck, you dont
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: guess what? he successfully trolled. doesn't make it any less of a troll.
Diablo-D3: lol Luke-Jr is so goddamned butthurt
Luke-Jr: anyone who knows ck knows he's a pain
Luke-Jr: ck has a very large reputation for being a difficult person to work with
ben_vulpes: surely the commit history shows ck's contribution or lack thereof.
Diablo-D3: ck just doesnt take shit from people
Diablo-D3: if he was hard to work with, I wouldnt have been friends with him for the last decade
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: that's why he hasn't had kernel patches accepted since forever, eh
Luke-Jr: concepts, yes, but only after someone else has to go basically rewrite them
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: nope, even I have more recent Linux commits
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: -ck is out for 3.16 or whatever the newest kernel is
Luke-Jr: that's another word for fork
Diablo-D3: Luke-Jr: no, it requires the linux source
Luke-Jr: that's just a technical way of distributing code
Diablo-D3: the signal to noise ratio in this channel went to shit when he came in
Luke-Jr: all a git repo is, is a patch set
ben_vulpes: its a fascinating slapfight i gotta say
Diablo-D3: ben_vulpes: not much of a slapfight when I have written code, and so has ck, and Luke-Jr hasnt actually done anything.
Luke-Jr: Diablo-D3: you're simply a liar, nothing more
Luke-Jr: if anyone should be banned, it's you
Diablo-D3: theres a reason why ck denied some of your patches
ben_vulpes: until i see commits (ideally signed, but i don't think people were into that sort of thing back then) it's all hot air as far as i can tell
nanotube haunts thestringpuller ooooOOOOO
Diablo-D3: ben_vulpes: diablominer is on github
Luke-Jr: ben_vulpes: signing commits is considered bad practice, actually
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ben_vulpes: Luke-Jr: lol i ain't digging through y'all's shitpile
ben_vulpes: link me to introducing commits tho and i'll start to care
xanthyos: someone i know on tinychat is trying to dump btc to me at spot. i hope i don't come out looking like a fool. that's more of a worry than the money loss at this point: appearing like a fool in the short term to a bunch of druggies and cam whores
nanotube: xanthyos: why not ask for a discount to spot
xanthyos: i'll definitely round it in my favor
Luke-Jr: ben_vulpes: I can't find it now, but the Linux kernel used to have a writeup why commits shouldn't be PGP signed
mircea_popescu: <thestringpuller> did Diablo-D3 ever get around to making that 1mn dollar company << 1 mn BITCOIN. get it straight.,
Luke-Jr: ben_vulpes: IIRC it was related to signing implying you have audited the complete state of the code, not just the diff
ben_vulpes: the other arguments i've heard is a) weakens "importance" of signatures and b) leaks keys
Luke-Jr: probably also because git maintainers like to rebase commits regularly
ben_vulpes: well then the sig goes bad and tough luck.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i don't know my history very well even though i lived it
Luke-Jr: ben_vulpes: also, the sig can't prove who wrote the code anyway
Luke-Jr: ben_vulpes: it would be trivial for Con to take my commits and reauthor them with his own signature, for example
Luke-Jr: (although I doubt he'd go that far)
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: nano just updated a few ratings
Luke-Jr: thestringpuller: yeah, I'm not a big fan of rebasing, but that's how the git culture works :/
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> aaaaah dig nanotube's rating of magicaltux << i don't think he ever revisits them or anytrhing
ben_vulpes: wouldn't really pass an inspection tbh
Luke-Jr: nanotube: wow, your new rating for Mark is harsh! :o
mircea_popescu: <dub> thestringpuller: this is actually why the wot is broken << nah. if you know who people are you know what to discount. if you don't know, you can't use their ratings anyway.
Luke-Jr: nanotube: the news last I checked said the police don't buy the conspiracy theories
Luke-Jr: ben_vulpes: you know, the people investigating the MtGox incident
Luke-Jr: who actually have access to information
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ben_vulpes: yes, the entirely honest and upright japanese police.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr you read some conspiracy theories about what the police is buying ?
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: conspiracy theories being people saying Mark did it, with no evidence
mircea_popescu: <Luke-Jr> ben_vulpes: signing commits is considered bad practice, actually << by idiots.
Luke-Jr: police don't seem to believe that, and they have actual access to information
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: the Linux maintainers are idiots?
mircea_popescu: xanthyos> appearing like a fool in the short term to a bunch of druggies and cam whores << maybe you need a new reddit ?
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr> police don't seem to believe that, and they have actual access to information << How long did the Feds take on BFL?
ben_vulpes: <Luke-Jr> mircea_popescu: the Linux maintainers are idiots? << a large number of them. do we not hear of linus routinely reaming people for idiocy?
Luke-Jr: ben_vulpes: that's a point. XD
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BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr: Well, BFL has only very recently been shutdown and taken into recievership for merely doing what they've been doing for their entire run.
nanotube: Luke-Jr: not implying culpability, simply that i wouldn't trade with him given all the stuff hanging over his head
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> Luke-Jr> police don't seem to believe that, and they have actual access to information << How long did the Feds take on BFL? << the notion that "the police" has "the information" is such lmao.
Luke-Jr: ben_vulpes: what I said is true, even if you disagree with it
ben_vulpes: well, you've got fifteen minutes, Luke-Jr. make the best of 'em.
mircea_popescu: they've got what they finally managed to read on trilema, basically.
Luke-Jr: BingoBoingo: did the feds at some point say BFL was legit?
ben_vulpes: Luke-Jr: your assertion of such doth not proof make.
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr: Never, one judge commented that there wasn't enough in front of him at the time to revoke Sonny's parole, far from an endorsement
Luke-Jr: nanotube: btw, any idea why b-otc.com is broken?
Luke-Jr: BingoBoingo: my point exactly
Luke-Jr: BingoBoingo: Japanese police have stated they don't think Mark is involved in the crime
nanotube: Luke-Jr: seems to work for me, just checked.
Luke-Jr: ben_vulpes: yes, he screwed up big time
mircea_popescu: what the fuck dorkhead do you have to be to believe sssomething like that. "o the police said this guy isn't involved". how'd they know and why'd they say that.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: they're investigating the theft
Luke-Jr: and have access to information we don't
BingoBoingo: No reason police aren't for sale like anyone else.
mircea_popescu: but that aside : that's the definition of "investigating" : they dion;t know who did what
mircea_popescu: just because the idiots you normally shill at can't read japanese doesn't mean you actually get to propose nonsense in here as fact.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: too bad, I don't save every news article I read.
ben_vulpes: Luke-Jr: amusingly, you can't even find them when the time comes.
ben_vulpes: not that any of them are written by a key i know anyways.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: "news articles" was the topic
Dimsler: Luke-Jr, wtf are you talking about
mircea_popescu: but the very notion that "the police"'d have some sort of priviledged access to information...
nanotube: mircea_popescu: they /should/ have the entire gox database, unlike the general public.
mircea_popescu: nanotube you mean that thing that was stolen off their servers 5x ?
Dimsler: mircea_popescu, maybe they have access to the "secret" server
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: it's pretty obvious MagicalTux isn't allowed to publicly say a lot of stuff
mircea_popescu: seems unlikely, giving what we know of public servants, but why not hoep.
Luke-Jr: that stuff, the police have access to
nanotube: mircea_popescu: sure, except it wasn't the entire thing? it was a particular date range, plus as i recall not all transactions?
mircea_popescu: yeah because co-conspirator testimony is like the be all end all of truthsources.
nanotube: i distinctly recall it didn't have some of my earliest transactions :P
mircea_popescu: which one of the leaked versions of which particular breach ?
nanotube: also, were there usd input/outputs? or just btc?
mircea_popescu: let's talk of something else, this can't not end up retarded.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, it occurs to me, the ba deeds registrar thing will be a not-so-bad way to distribute source.
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ben_vulpes: for the record, signing not your own commits is anathema and will eventually be outed.
ben_vulpes: RagnarDanneskjol: you're familiar with tagging in git?
ben_vulpes: a tag is "this release bears my stamp"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes can i commit code my slavegirl wrote on her offline abacus ?
ben_vulpes: tux might nota been a party to the crime, but it happened under his watch.
mircea_popescu: so then if i sign a commit you made, what's the problem ?
ben_vulpes: why not encrypt messages to bitcoin private keys? it works, what's the problem?
mircea_popescu: can you stick to arguing your idea instead of arguing around ?
ben_vulpes: the commit is "here is a diff of thing before i started work today, and thing after i finished this feature." it may include tests, changes to other miscellaneous stuff. it should exist (in my opinion, i may be wrong and might need to be argued out of this) as a statement that "i did this work". this clearly gets hazy when you've got multiple eyes on a screen.
ben_vulpes: and multiple people providing input into what precisely should be done. however, the buck must stop with the signer of the commit.
ben_vulpes: also i don't really know that git affords for you signing my hash and including it in the repository, from a technical perspective.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but see, if what you mean to say is "signing actual commits may be taking on more responsibility than you realise", why say "anathema" ?
mircea_popescu: as far as i can see, all signatories of a thing are joint and several responsible for it.
ben_vulpes: that's why the signatory of the commit can only be held responsible for changes introduced in that commit.
mircea_popescu: if that's what you're trying to do, it's not anathema, it's the right thing. if it's not what you're trying to do it's still not anathema, just, you're misguidedly using the tools
ben_vulpes: sure, i made a change to openssl, and i stand behind it. that should not be taken to be an endorsement of the project.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes basically the practica application would be, once X bug is found, grep for the code and whenever you find it in something someone signed, tear them a new one.
ben_vulpes: what would it mean for it to be in something that someone signed?
ben_vulpes: that's the importance of signing the diff.
ben_vulpes: that's why the commit is the right thing for a contributor to sign.
ben_vulpes: "i changed these things, and i take responsibility for the content of the change."
ben_vulpes: now if you strip whitespace on a line that later turns out to have a mission-critical hole...
mircea_popescu: sure, if that's what he means that's what he should do.
mircea_popescu: fuck you, don't dick around with lines you don't udnerstand.
mircea_popescu: the entire point of the exercise is to make people fucking affraid to write code.
ben_vulpes: now in the tag, you include a message: "this signed tag is my stamp upon the whole and entirety of the codebase".
mircea_popescu: that' the only way they'll stop long enough to read something.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's nonsense. what's this, a badly specified bitbet bet ?
ben_vulpes: or, "this signed tag is my stamp on lines xx-yy in file thus.hs"
mircea_popescu: no dude, you include what you sign between --begin and end
ben_vulpes: i'm demonstrating the range of what's possible, not what i'd do.
ben_vulpes: and you probably want to hash the lines and sign the hash to boot.
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ben_vulpes: what is anathema in the previous context mircea_popescu is taking someone else's commits, signing them and claiming them as your own.
ben_vulpes: if i find commits like that without a "copied without permission from XXX" -- that's a demerit.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you could only make people terrified in this system if everyone was required to sign commits no?
ben_vulpes: in 20 years, a bitcoin implementation may be software people's "masterpiece" work - eg the piece of work that grants one the title of "master" in the field.
ben_vulpes: if i see this day i will be a happy man.
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mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> what is anathema in the previous context mircea_popescu is taking someone else's commits, signing them and claiming them as your own. << why ?
mircea_popescu: there's no permission to be had or sought. this is free software.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller no. girls aren't required to fuck anyone and yet they're well terrified of not doing a good job in bed.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what if someone doesn't sign "heartbleed introduction" then no one is accountable and system is moot
thestringpuller: but this means software that is signed everywhere has more accountability than software that doesn't
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00074955 = 12.6674 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00074928 = 10.9395 BTC [-]
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November"
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RagnarDanneskjol: are there any time-bending' methods for proving a doc [notarized electronically*] is not added[forged] to db AFTER some point in time? like a 'carbondated' irrefutable binary marker [or tensor more like]. for instance, unique single use keypair for each new calendar day thats signed by [or a hash of] some other newly generated 'time-dependent' keypair + 'something else'[ie classified new
RagnarDanneskjol: sapr ad but more easily recoverable]. we'll presume the date record of keys published is unreliable/unavail/innacurate [including classifieds which could fall into all 3 categories] and placing aside the single use pair being vulnerable to forger obtaining historical key pairs in advance.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16650 @ 0.00074918 = 12.4738 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol well how are you going to put the hash in a block retroactively ?
mircea_popescu: but anyway, this discussion can continue tomorrow, i'm off.
RagnarDanneskjol: assuming it is compromised (not thinking about btc here at all)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60800 @ 0.00074779 = 45.4656 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17608 @ 0.00074698 = 13.1528 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Einstein notation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.00075076 = 7.3574 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16439 @ 0.00075103 = 12.3462 BTC [+] {2}
kakobrekla: ben_vulpes nah, i just fucked around with the db while moving ass.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28807 @ 0.0007505 = 21.6197 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00075283 = 18.4443 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17050 @ 0.00075043 = 12.7948 BTC [-]
mats_cd03: 03:06:03 decimation:before this one I actually had a nexus 4 (2013 model) for a month, dropped it from 18 inches and it cracked <<there's a 2013 model? whats the difference with 2012?
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2014 03:06:03; decimation: before this one I actually had a nexus 4 (2013 model) for a month, dropped it from 18 inches and it cracked
assbot: Logged on 27-09-2014 19:41:17; kakobrekla: (first day i had it, it flew about 3m vertically on a concrete floor)
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00075043 = 18.9108 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: "Specifically, the testimony of several former employees and Vice President of Product Development Josh Zerlan shows that instead of fulfilling orders immediately, Defendants used their customers’ machines to mine Bitcoins for themselves before shipping the now-used machines to their customers."
ThickAsThieves: "The machines being tested were collectively hashing at a rate of 12 terrahashes per second (TH/s). At that time, this comprised approximately 3 percent of the hash rate of the entire bitcoin network."
assbot: Feds: Butterfly Labs mined bitcoins on customers boxes before shipping | Ars Technica
ThickAsThieves: Circle is open for business, that should halve Coinbase's lifespan
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28750 @ 0.00074726 = 21.4837 BTC [-] {3}
ben_vulpes: their hamburger menu illustration is hilarious
ThickAsThieves: lol Intuit just responded to a 2yr-old service request from a developer that used to work for me
ThickAsThieves: "Hi, I'm interested in developing integration apps with Quickbooks online. May I sign up for a one year developer account?" too late Intuit
ben_vulpes: why does everything suck, ThickAsThieves
ben_vulpes: one guy says to hire a whole payroll company
ben_vulpes: another guy says to just use quickbooks payroll
TomServo: Am I seeing this right? Lenovo is paying less for IBMs server division than M$ paid for Mojang?
mats_cd03: minecraft is a big deal and i think that's often understated in this channel
chetty hasn't noticed anyone even talking about minecraft here ..
chetty: ben_vulpes, if you have employees where you have to do withholding and stuff, hire an outfit, cheaper in the long run
ThickAsThieves: <+ben_vulpes> one guy says to hire a whole payroll company /// in my experience doing your own payroll via QBO is better than paying ADP or such, but only if your staff knows some amount of accounting and tax filing
ThickAsThieves: it does make it easy, but at the risk of not knowing wtf to do if you have a problem and no accounting support
chetty: all the assorted tax filings and stuff are real time eaters
ThickAsThieves: and QBO doesnt make it clear when/what you need to mail yourself, vs submit online
ThickAsThieves: i learned by doing and it took a couple years to clean up the mess
chetty: been a few years since I did that sort of stuff but back then giving up and hiring a company was best move I made
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assbot: My coworkers made me use Mac OS 9 for their (and your) amusement | Ars Technica
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00074764 = 6.6914 BTC [+]
assbot: Hong Kong Protests Swell as Riot Police Withdraw - WSJ
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mircea_popescu: ;;rate PeterL 1 Guy fucked up his glbse assets 3 years ago. This is a fact. That fact may be explained as a smart guy failing in a soup of idiots, and the optimist in me is inclined towards it.
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assbot: Govt works on criminal law reform to fight blue dollar - BuenosAiresHerald.com
mircea_popescu: Michael Goldstein presentats a tutorial on GPG contracts and the #bitcoin-otc web of trust. < that ?
justusranvier: We started syndicating our weekly bitcoin meetups.
justusranvier: Instead of just teaching classes to the people who show up in person it spreads the reach a bit
justusranvier: He'll be talking about your GPG Contracts article.
justusranvier: Maybe one of these days you could get on a Hangout with us for a Q&A.
assbot: SECRET//COMINT//REL TO USA, AUS, CAN, GBR//20291123 United States SIGINT System - Pastebin.com
justusranvier: mircea_popescu: Google's answer to Skype. Useful in that you can stream/record to YouTube
mircea_popescu: why must the format be bulky and impossible ? can't we do this ?
assbot: Austin Bitcoin Meetup Guest Speaker Series - YouTube
mircea_popescu: do this : hire a chick wherever your studio is located. i'll pay for her tiome, give her an xchat terminal and she can read my replies.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.0007459 = 11.4123 BTC [-] {2}
moldysnizz: It's pretty good so far. Slept in. No one around but a couple of dogs. Still breathing... Good shit right here.
moldysnizz: And I only fucked up my ;;bcverify once!
moldysnizz: I've been trying to wrap my head around rand().
moldysnizz: Computers making randome numbers? I don't think so.
moldysnizz: I was formarly chatquack, but the computer with the creds is in storage.
kakobrekla: moldysnizz you prolly need to read everything ascii ever said.
assbot: Madonna - Lucky Star - YouTube
jurov: dunno, large part of that material is scattered around trilema
jurov: related to cardano rng
jurov: where did i wrote randomly?
jurov: not you, TheNewDeal
TheNewDeal: It was mostly a joke, on the topic of rand() ya know
jurov: dat my mind. just produced a thought "what if we measure trilema entropy? and what if it ends up being over-unity?"
bounce: txtspk, bringing humanity into easy AI territory from the other end
TheNewDeal: Makes me remember the markov chain trilema
assbot: Logged on 22-03-2014 17:19:21; asciilifeform: incidentally, my first exposure to the problem of RNGs with inadequate entropy was by accident, at uni
mircea_popescu: unfortunately, it is a skill i seem to have mysplaced myself ;/
jurov: trilema entropy is 0 << means 1 bit of trilema text contains 0 bits of information?
mircea_popescu: no, by way of 1 bit of trilema contsaining 1 bit of information and so no room for this entropy cheez
bounce: "security by lack of entropy" -- my, wouldn't that be useful
mircea_popescu: ;;google time is going by really slow i think we might be dead
mircea_popescu: bounce it's basically asciilifeform's plan for computing.
assbot: Unsorted collection of various Cardano related updates + spurious pics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
moldysnizz: mircea_popescu, did you ever get a decent prototype of that RNG device working?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00074764 = 7.9997 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: exactly like except completely opposite.
assbot: Loper OS » Cardano Prototype Tidbits: TRNG Boards.
bounce: clearly, for production you must come up with an unique colour
kakobrekla: asciilifeform basically yea. you also have the arm editions in same package.
moldysnizz: Right? Any decent crypto needs decent rng.
kakobrekla: i guess i expressed myself wrongly, as atmel indeed prints arm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00075066 = 8.7077 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: theres hundredths of versions and editions
gribble: davout was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 8 hours, 41 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <davout> oui et toi-même ?
punkman: asciilifeform: the selling point is mostly the Arduino IDE
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mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> exactly like except completely opposite. << lmao
assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021861 B (Total: 478.05 B). Delta: -2.17 B. The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
☟︎ moldysnizz: Well, I have a shit-ton of reading now. Thanks for the info.
moldysnizz: I'm going to make my own TRNG. With hookers, and blackjack!
mircea_popescu: since you're doing that might as well go the whole nine yards
assbot: F.MPIF last 1@0.00020614
kakobrekla: wtf is with the round stones in the mpif fund, did you invest in that ?
assbot: F.MPIF last 1@0.00020614
assbot: Logged on 29-09-2014 18:16:19; assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021861 B (Total: 478.05 B). Delta: -2.17 B. The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
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jurov: but the phrase is from assbot's fortune file?
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assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021861 B (Total: 478.05 B). Delta: -2.17 B. Have you got any tobacco?
chetty: news.yahoo.com/israeli-circumcision-device-provokes-union-outcry-south-africa-141537701.html
nubbins`: chetty, there's a die antwoord song featuring a xhosa guy talking about circumcision
assbot: Die Antwoord - Evil Boy (Explicit Version) - YouTube
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fluffypony: please don't link to Die Antwoord, nubbins`
nubbins`: ah hahaha, fp is having an aneurysm no doubt
fluffypony: nubbins`: well the thing is, they're not even satirical or funny
fluffypony: they just take tidbits and snippets of red-neck society and then blow it completely out of proportion to try and make it "shocking"
mircea_popescu: fluffypony sounds like a decent recipe for humor neh ?
fluffypony: but in doing so they mostly come across as "meh" instead of shocking
mircea_popescu: "Die Antwoord (pronounced [di'ɑnt.ʋoːrt], translation: "The Answer") is a South African rap-rave group formed in Cape Town in 2008."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14667 @ 0.00074646 = 10.9483 BTC [-] {2}
xanthyos: IT IS OFFICIAL. THE SOCIALIST DANIEL VITA OF LANGLEY, BRITISH COLUMBIA, HAS ELECTED TO STARVE TO DEATH.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10250 @ 0.00074936 = 7.6809 BTC [+]
nubbins`: o wow, just signed up for a circle account and used it for the first time
nubbins`: imagine, buying btc with a credit card
kakobrekla: nubbins` did you encounter any amount of jerk with that?
nubbins`: kakobrekla as painless as taking a shit
nubbins`: transferred $50 from my credit card, immediately withdrew to cold storage address
nubbins`: gonna wait a few days to verify cc fees and do the same in reverse
Dimsler: circle will take CC and convert to btc?
Dimsler: has anyone fed it hacked lines yet?
nubbins`: warning: cash advance fees may apply
Dimsler: whats the approval process?
nubbins`: no approval process, you just enter your billing details
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> kakobrekla as painless as taking a shit << ouch :D
mircea_popescu: Dimsler> has anyone fed it hacked lines yet? << i imagine not really so far.
nubbins`: what amazes me is that they managed to insure this whole process somehow
Dimsler: once the nigerians hear about it taking cc
Duffer1: that all sounds ripe for abuse
Dimsler: sitting there feeding cvvs
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: it relates to "intended use". I want to know if a certain scenario is in scope.
thestringpuller: I was just wondering if you were in the mood to take questions :P
Dimsler: who the fuck is stringpuller
nubbins`: oh lel, my visa-enabled debit card works, too
kakobrekla: see nubbins` try out his 584 cards going broke
Dimsler: whats the limit to load in?
mircea_popescu: Dimsler what a stupid q lol. how would they enforce a limit ?
mircea_popescu: 10k ips, 10k stolen cards, 10k bitcoins and womenz ain't one.
gribble: Error: "got" is not a valid command.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: could the cardano be used as a blackbox key generator? for instance someone once escrow keys that are one time use, the device can sign a message utilizing these generated keys, but they are inevitably destroyed, and no one has true record of the private keys used to sign said message
thestringpuller: i apologize for the disarray of thoughts. a dpaste more flushed out maybe more beneficial in terms of relating the scenario
thestringpuller: the counterparty is in the room and takes the cardano as part of the deal
Dimsler: seriously anytype of scenario where a private key has to be trusted leaves room for malice
thestringpuller: how do people know the cardano came from you asciilifeform and mircea_popescu 's "good lab" in the first place?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14616 @ 0.00075199 = 10.9911 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: so the guy is supposed to study the design, to find out if it comes fro mevil lab ?
Dimsler: honestly there still a certain level of trust
Dimsler: i mean what are you nit picking at?
Dimsler: thestringpuller, quit trolling
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually this is how it was done during romanian revolution
mircea_popescu: coupla guys showed up at state tel;evsion building, dumped a sack of machine guns on floor
mircea_popescu: everyone got some. derps couldn't even fire them, stuffed pants
mircea_popescu: (not really machine guns as in, three person platform fired band fed. shitty mps)
xanthyos: capslock on the internet is the death throe of the loud poor man
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: mechanical angel << well cardano is resistant to DPA, isn't this an angelic property?
xanthyos: it made sense on mechanical typewriters
assbot: PA Md. 1986 - Wikipedia
xanthyos: back when people used to troll with paper
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: oh now i see. i was once blind. thanks for giving me eyes.
mircea_popescu: "România, membră a Tratatului de la Varșovia, a decis trecerea la noul calibru la începutul anilor 1980. În loc să fabrice direct o copie a automatului AK-74, conducerea de la București a decis dezvoltarea unei arme independent de cea sovietică. Rezultatul, Pușca Automată Model 1986, deși similară familiei AK-74, avea unele elemente constructive proprii. "
mircea_popescu: moved to the m16-inspired vietnam 5.56, in 1980, but decided to make own gun
nubbins`: thickasthieves: you obviously grew up in the age of varying-case fonts
nubbins`: should be a lower-case lock key IMO.
Dimsler: well romanian aks are pretty nice
Dimsler: probably the best one vs an original russian one
Dimsler: what year did romanian aks go to mild receivers?
kakobrekla: asciilifeform also 'not in the face' ?
assbot: dpaste: 1ACV2MC: You Have a New Comment, by tat
Dimsler: the ak is pretty decent for back fires
kakobrekla got his chips before he managed to get em running
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7724 @ 0.00075288 = 5.8152 BTC [+]
The20YearIRCloud: Doesn't Romania still use stamped AK recievers? I know all the ones we get here in the US are paper thin
The20YearIRCloud: Manufacturing firearms isn't illegal anyhwere in the US outside of California and NY whom have additional restrictions. The federal deal is that it has to comply with all local laws, and if you intent to sell it, they require your information to be on it.
punkman: this circle thing works, just grabbed a cheap coin
The20YearIRCloud: And then, the 'firearm' as far as the USG and ATF are concerned is the part that contains the serial number
The20YearIRCloud: So with an AK/AR it's the reciever, on something like a glock it's the frame/grip.
The20YearIRCloud: It's a limited group asciilifeform : No barrels under 16" , gun must be 26" or longer, no fully auto/burst. No shotguns under 18" barrel.
punkman: surprised it worked in this shithole
The20YearIRCloud: The uS passed a law a while ago that made it quite hard to sue a gun maker
punkman: nubbins`: did you get like 10 sms messages from them?
The20YearIRCloud: Because if they would allow it, it would bring on a severe wave of 'i improperly used your product to hurt someone, so i'm gonna sue' which happend a ton in the early 90s
nubbins`: punkman any major action required a SMS verification code
The20YearIRCloud: Well, most firearm firms that have a worry about the legality might send a copy or a blueprint to the ATF to get certification
The20YearIRCloud: If it's a prototype, and you have a commercial manufacture license, you can fix that
The20YearIRCloud: If it's 17" , the law says you can just weld a piece of scrap metal to it that's 1" long and make it get to the minimum length
The20YearIRCloud: SIG very recently put out a few hundred thousand items that the ATF decided they didn't like, and they were essentially impossible to recall, so ATF sued them, and SIG won the lawsuit
Duffer1: welding a muzzle device counts too
The20YearIRCloud: Read up on the story of Ruby ridge to find what happens over that inch asciilifeform
The20YearIRCloud: becuase that's what happened. A ATF agent got a guy to cut a inch off a shotgun in exchange for $200, then started a whole ordeal over it
The20YearIRCloud: Well in the case of ruby ridge the USG killed the guy's family
The20YearIRCloud: law says it's on them, although it could be done, ala gunwalker
Duffer1: forces can trick you into breaking the law with impunity
The20YearIRCloud: where they forced a gun store to sell guns to a known cartel member, or otherwise they'd throw all the people in jail. Then said cartel guy kills quite a few with said gun.
gribble: Error: Problem retrieving latest block data.
PeterL: asciilifeform: presumably the gun manufactureres keep records of what they produce
PeterL: signed by the techs certifiying they meet specs
PeterL: then they can use those docs in court
PeterL: then they would have to prove records were falsified
PeterL: I wonder if this has been tried in court yet?
PeterL: your example, modified gun used to prosecute manufacturer of record?
PeterL: could agent walk into my lab and say "You have benzyl chloride, acetonitrile and methylamine, therfore intent to manufacture methamphetamine"?
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> use it wisely << actually he can selfvoice nao.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> in that burden of proof is, de facto, on the accused in all cases. << goes neatly with the
PeterL: but any organic lab will have those ingredients
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, an excellent example of why so called "strict liability" and the rule of law can not coexist.
mircea_popescu: any state purporting to enforce strict liability is pure stalinism and nothing but.
☟︎ Duffer1: i believe it would be enough for an arrest, prosecution would be more difficult
nubbins`: mircea_popescu then whytf is he PMing me asking for voice?!
Duffer1: arrest if an officer wanted to fuck with you
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assbot: Max Keiser to Join Russell Brand on The Trews for One Week | The Anti-Media
xanthyos: ^ two men both of whom i have trusted and have let me down. "but i love him and maybe this time he won't beat me."
xanthyos remembers 2010's "buy silver crash jp morgan" keiser scam
Duffer1: how's maxcoin doing these days btw? :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00075286 = 21.6824 BTC [-]
xanthyos: i don't even track the prices of any alts
xanthyos: russell brand used to have a radio show 10 years ago full of revolutionary antistatist ideas. then he started getting work for cbs and disney and got quiet
mircea_popescu: * xanthyos remembers 2010's "buy silver crash jp morgan" keiser scam << should prolly blog about it
xanthyos: i was one of the idiots who bought silver at 29 and held it even when it spiked to 48
punkman: how many times did Kodak go bankrupt?
xanthyos: i got all my information from keiser's call-ins to the alex jones show, so i guess i deserved to lose
xanthyos: when idiots speak confidently, it's hard to resist their charm. that's why jehovah's witnesses visit in pairs
Dimsler: pretty sure the only people taking jones seirously are low brow hicks
Dimsler: that are easy to convince into a wearing a tin foil hat
xanthyos: his gravelly voice puts me to sleep
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00075301 = 24.774 BTC [+] {4}
punkman: mircea_popescu: probably older than paypal
The20YearIRCloud: I'm the only guy i know that bought into silver that hasn't lost a good deal of money into it
nubbins`: i know a hippie that put every cent he had into silver in 2008
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22983 @ 0.00075309 = 17.3083 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15917 @ 0.00075345 = 11.9927 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00075354 = 14.6187 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: Biologists find an early sign of cancer | MIT News Office
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BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Interesting write up. I do wonder though why they picked OS 9 and not... 7
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19084 @ 0.00075286 = 14.3676 BTC [-]
assbot: Meth charge dropped after only spaghetti sauce found on spoon
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assbot: How To Make Pancakes Like A Druggie - YouTube
jborkl_: wtf is up with assbot, shithead
jborkl_: thank you for the up BingoBoingo
assbot: jborkl_ +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
jborkl_: is there a new assbot rule I am not aware of?
jurov: ;;gettrust assbot jborkl_
jurov: assbot doesn't know you
assbot: US Judge Griesa holds Argentina in contempt in debt case| Reuters
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well their previous archeology experiment was DOS... Also 7.X series supports color.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, what's the reason that payment this week is considerably less than previous ones?
cazalla: cyber lashing for being lazy previous week?
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xanthyos: heh, oliver twist asking mr bumble for some more
cazalla: asciilifeform, reads like First Blood
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: what, if anything, do you use for a www browser on your 68k ? << Telling people their websites are broken
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: 68k, and very highly developed asm/demo culture << I may eventually pick one up.
mats_cd03: 17:42:24 <+jborkl_> is there a new assbot rule I am not aware of? << 26-09-2014 21:31:23 <mircea_popescu> ;;unrate jborkl_
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones: then tried to sell them OTC using bitpay as broker << mostly because everyone else had more sense than to be involved.
mircea_popescu: but bitpay gotta stick with the old ring of scammers because why not.
mircea_popescu: TomServo: Is this bizarro world? <<< well lenovo isn't a us state corp.
mircea_popescu: getting ACTUAL dollars, ie, reducing your external debt, ios a whole different story from shuffling bezzlars among the branches of state / various state owned entreprises in a ridiculous but doomed attempt to simulate a working economy
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peterl_: why doesn't Lenovo capitalize their name? for the longest time I thoght it was Ienovo
dub: yeah! or just spell phonetically: renovo
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thickasthieves: well if you want charts go to my site, but i havent published any lately
thickasthieves: but ive charted this thing inside and out and it's just a probable thing according to my tea leaves
dub: whats your traderview again
dub should think about storing bookmarks outside his browser history
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cazalla: cheap coins, no cash, have car rego and insurance to pay this friday, that burns more than having bought previously at higher price
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dub: is this becoming a sport? how far can you make it into the wh
mircea_popescu: dub im rooting for the "we fucked in the white house" blog
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xanthyos: what about a "what illegal things can we get to grow on the whitehouse lawn" sport
thickasthieves: i always wanted to get an asston of pot seeds and go johnny appleseed across the nation
dub: parts of china are like that apparently
dub: grows everywhere, locals mostly dont know what it is
mircea_popescu: dude this "solutions" bullshit. everyone and their "solution". you can't buy a fucking corkscrew, it's gotta be a bottle opening solution
peterl_: the other question, would growing wild still produce useable product?
xanthyos: it wouldn't be as nice but it would do the trick
thickasthieves: well people would just grow their own if they wanted after that
peterl_: quantity makes up for low quality?
dub: isnt it already heading that way?
xanthyos: dmt is illegal and it exists in the pineal gland of every brain
thickasthieves: i remember 5 yrs ago i told my wife itd be legal in US in our lifetime and she said no way
dub: yeah sentiment be changing from the 50s where anything the govt said was true
peterl_: but will other drugs still be illegal, or will there always be a "off-limits" list?
mircea_popescu: dub mostly because the govt's been changing. back in the 50s, most of what it said actually was close enough
peterl_: that was quick, usually you let them play longer
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jurov: thickasthieves: my area TAs are saying it will keep getting down to last year's $100-150
BingoBoingo: Has the dragonfly been captured to check for tampering?
BingoBoingo: Next you know Obama's going to be having a good laught about the two dragonflies that fucked on your head while you were sleeping tomorrow night
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thickasthieves: <+jurov> thickasthieves: my area TAs are saying it will keep getting down to last year's $100-150 // tis possible
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