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phf: i've been using vpatch/vdiff without full blown v, because i can order the patches by hand (and there's now an explicit ordering provided by manifest), and vpatch verifies the hashes for me. it would be handy if i could also press existing sha patches with `vpatch -a sha` or whatever ☟︎
mod6: thanks for your input. perhaps, the grass-roots thing is the way to go. ``talk to people''.
mod6: It's clearly stated on the Washington monument: ``Im reich ist vergnugen verboten!''
mircea_popescu: it's /mɒ`təʊ/, to not leave it in mystery. for one fucking thing, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS /ō/ in english. nor, for that matter, ä.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 21:01 hl`: not really trustworthy if they have non-free firmware on them, but theoretically they have a use case
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 20:42 hl`: I'm a longtime owner-control advocate.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 21:24 hl`: that's actually a fair point too. as implemented in e.g. PCs nowadays, even putting the closed firmware issues aside, the way they are integrated is _not_ secure. they're just connected using open pins to the CPU, you could easily replay everything
a111: Logged on 2018-06-11 20:42 hl`: I'm a longtime owner-control advocate.
BingoBoingo: <hl`> that doesn't protect against physical attacks. << Buy a dog and carry a hammer
swiftgeek: hl`: anyway only with proper root of trust you can measure all stages with tpm
asciilifeform: hl`: this is a perpetuum mobile.
swiftgeek: hl`: google chip fingerprinting
deedbot: hl` voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up hl`
swiftgeek: hl`: and nobody dumped yet trackpoint code either :>
swiftgeek: hl`: not really, but whether medium is ro or rw it doesn't matter
swiftgeek: hl`: we have seen plenty mask rom exploits already
swiftgeek: hl`: 1. lock device in dock (with key), softbrick, profit
swiftgeek: hl`: softbrick in thinkpad provides resistance against evil maids :)
asciilifeform: hl`: how much do you like google's tpm, which opens in 3 seconds to 'evil maid' with the magic rsa key ?
swiftgeek: hl`: especially when you think about reselling the device
swiftgeek: hl`: but OTP root of trust is not a solution either
swiftgeek: hl`: if you have more devices on same bus you can figure out something to sniff it, and later replay
asciilifeform: hl`: i am not interested in buying iron that specifically protects against everybody-but-nsa physical attack.
swiftgeek: hl`: you don't need physical attack there really
swiftgeek: hl`: it depends on root of trust being somewhere else
swiftgeek: hl`: not exactly that case either
asciilifeform: hl`: nope.
asciilifeform: hl`: please read the chan logs and make use of the search, before asking q, http://btcbase.org/log/
asciilifeform: what brings you to #trilema, hl` ?
asciilifeform: hl`: hello ?
deedbot: hl` voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: !!up hl`
mircea_popescu: (i ran 0.1 tests, so about 700 bucks. how a 10`000 sq foot of floor space electronics-and-white-goods specialist can not have made 700 bucks worth of sales by mid day is anyone's fucking guess. here is mine : nobody but me has any money.)
shinohai: nah I just unpack stean-latest .deb using `ar x` ... then cd to the resulting usr/bin/ and ./steam
Mocky: a fi copil din flori`to be born on the wrong side of the blanket
mod6: made a landing page for ``blog'' posts: http://www.mod6.net/blog.html
mod6: lol, "if it were not for your ``friends'' I would think that this was a normal chat site"
mod6: in a pinch -- you could always try to just : `patch -F 0 -E -p1 < mp-wp_genesis.vpatch` in some directory and just inflate the thing.
mircea_popescu: if one thing can be done with machine-powered text classifiers, is discovering just how utterly uninteresting 10`000 articles on feminist-daily nonsense outlet actually are.
mod6: For instance, let us use a scenario such as: asciilifeform puts in X BTC, mod6 matches alf's X BTC (where X <= 5), can this be created as stock then? In this scenario 500`000 shares would be assigned to alf & mod6 alike. In the circumstance I would put in (10 - X) more BTC, this could be assigned to me as "convertable bonds". I've been revisiting our conversation from a while back on the Pricing of Capita
asciilifeform: $ ldd `which gprbuild `
mircea_popescu: 27`001`189 bytes of THREATS of content. no content.
mircea_popescu: 27`001`189.
mod6: I thought the second way would work, and in fact `gcc-config -l` does report : x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.8.4 ; however, it seems like none of the ebuilds would work with a stage3 that old.
mircea_popescu: and even if it stands to unexamined imagination, "the $5 watch renders the demand for $500`000 watches 0", this is never true. no demand ever reaches actual 0, for very good reasons that have to do with how negative numbers don't exist irl.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-06 17:21 asciilifeform: upstack : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810476 << 6`976`695 , mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: upstack : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-06#1810476 << 6`976`695 , mircea_popescu ☝︎☟︎
shinohai: Was reading logs this morning and saw: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810071 ... On newer deb/african pthread issues were solved with `libpthread-stubs0-dev` pkg ☝︎
mod6: lobbes: if you are still in the `bitcoin/build' directory, what does `ls -al toolchain/usr/bin/x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-g++` return?
mod6: my next suggestion is to try to install build-essential, ala: `apt-get install build-essential`
lobbes: ah, there I got a egogg: make: *** No rule to make target `bitcoin'. Stop.
mod6: `
mod6: try this: `command -v gcc-4.7` see what it tells you, then do `ls -al <from_whatever_command-v_told_you>
mod6: what about `ls -al /usr/bin/g++` ?
mod6: and if you do `ls -al /etc/alternatives/cc` ?
mod6: what does `ls -al /usr/bin/cc` show you?
mod6: N=`basename $P .vpatch`
mod6: One other thing about ada-vtron, at the time, I was using system commands to execute `gnupg'. Where as now, perhaps we can use ffa/peh.
asciilifeform: ( re 90`000 mice -- see also e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2014-11-16#925567 thread ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and next week -- 90`000.
jurov: for example, if sbcl ran the command using shell, this would have side effect of actually running touch: (run-program "ls" '("`touch /tmp/evil`") :SEARCH T)
mircea_popescu: now how the fuck can you build anything out of 100`000`000 elliots and 10`000`000 terries ? because that's the other fucking half of http://trilema.com/2014/pushing-the-soft-tender-flesh-of-a-friend-against-the-sharp-rotating-blades-of-the-immutable-machine/#selection-967.295-971.2 "how much does the devil have to pay you to love him" problem.
mircea_popescu: what he does is observe that out of his 10mn or w/e list, 9.999 million were culled off in t1. fine. WHATEVER!!!. there's still 10`000 left yes ? what do we know about them ?
mod6: (do a `ls -al <dir>` to see the perms on the left most column, e.x. `ls -al /`)
BethanyC: `https://i.imgur.com/EMgnQxk.jpg
mod6: Not as much ``tbtf initiatives'' as it is just the larger Republic, neh?
mircea_popescu: imagine, if you only had 100`000 more pairs of tits you could write cryptographic client-server protocols.
avgjoe: "Requests that `amount` be withdrawn from your available balance and sent to `to-btc-address`. This step shall be performed by a human operator after reviewing account history. Expect at least one day of processing. Bitcoin transaction fees shall be deducted from your account."
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the .htaccess files included with/generated by mpwp include the `Allow` incantation, which is not a thing in apache 2.4; trilema purports to run on 2.4.16; can the Order/Allow incantations be replaced with the 2.4-style Require?
mircea_popescu: ckang the idea isn't you bruteforce it, the idea is that in between world A, where 100 people living have 1 btc each, and world A', where 99 people living and 1 person dead have 1 bitcoin each, is that the apparent value of the bitcoin will be 101% in A` vs A.
phf: i'm not sure what the comparisons to the room mean at this point. i suspect it means "it's not really `so bad it's good`, it's really just dull bad, and you should avoid it", or?
mircea_popescu: and on the old films front, "20`000 years in sing sing" is a gnarly piece of nonsense about on there with "the room". except with spencer tracy playing the incomprehensible retard.
mircea_popescu: trinque> all anyone does today is larp, from chiraq to palestine << word. and the larp that they do is always and very amusingly a sort of first-person-cool. i was explaining a coupla days ago the mechanics of "pantsuit uprising" and how firing a line would send the whole field of 'em packing to deeply disbelieving girly. she honestly thought that if i march a 100 strong regiment to the sider of a 100`000 strong "color revol
mircea_popescu: "in natural languages, we are used to context. indeed, contextual meaning is what makes natural languages natural. we have `list' as a verb, and we have `list' as a noun. we have `listless' as an adjective describing something (like a programming language) that does not have lists, and an adjective describing someone who is sort of permanently tired. when we need to disambiguate, we do so with more words."
douchebag: http://f0gufhxx2a1lcy5f0h98nnxqzh5ht6.burpcollaborator.net/`id`
douchebag: http://6w3lb8toy1xc8p16w85zjethv814pt.burpcollaborator.net/`whoami`
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mod6: asciilifeform: seems to do what is printed on the box (at least from a `txt2dir.py` point of view): http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cVAQy/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-03-30 22:09 mod6: was thinking, that if we changed up the parameterization of v, could maybe resolve the multiple leaves thing. imagine http://www.mod6.net/sps2_dag.png without the 'j.vpathch', if one wanted to press both trees, maybe could tell v to : `./v.pl p v outputdir i.vpatch d.vpatch`
mod6: i.e. : `./v.pl p v outputdir gimme-all-leaves`
mod6: was thinking, that if we changed up the parameterization of v, could maybe resolve the multiple leaves thing. imagine http://www.mod6.net/sps2_dag.png without the 'j.vpathch', if one wanted to press both trees, maybe could tell v to : `./v.pl p v outputdir i.vpatch d.vpatch` ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but "it's for the reader" is a very weak answer, because if patch 3 touching a and b is written so as to include patch 2, whereas patch 3` touching a alone is written so as not to include patch 2, "the reader" will have a most terrible time deciding which to use and why the fuck his build don't work.
Amygirl: `!!register http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4vOvk/?raw=true `
mircea_popescu: douchebag so you covered say 80% of google's code and 70% of yahoos, and on this basis the 8`844`644 holes you found with yahoo makes you suspect the mere 2`333`156 holes found in google's schweitzer reflect a lesser per-cubit average of holes ?
mircea_popescu: so something like "pizarro incorporated, issued 1`100`000 shares with a par value of 100 satoshi each, subscribed by mod6 (500`000) ; asciilifeform (500`000) and TBF (100`000)" would be more in the regular form of these things.
mircea_popescu: then as the preliminaries were done and the thing was starting to move capital was "called up", ie, joe you underwrote 10`000 shares, now's the time to pay up so and so moneys.
phf: i still have muscle memory for dashes, quotes and a few math symbols on mac en layout. (i would even differentiate between russian << .. >> and en `` .. ''). this stuff seemed like the future in the early 2000s..
phf: i have a btcbase based test harnes, but it of course also didn't catch the issue, because it doesn't know about `\ No newline ...' in band thing either. it treats that line as a textual prelude to the next hunk which is a valid patch format
a111: Logged on 2018-02-24 04:54 phf: also make vdiff `-D_Noreturn=__attribute__\\\((noreturn\\\))' is even better work around, but the combination of shell/makefile seems to pass the parenthesis through on bash but not on zsh...
phf: also make vdiff `-D_Noreturn=__attribute__\\\((noreturn\\\))' is even better work around, but the combination of shell/makefile seems to pass the parenthesis through on bash but not on zsh... ☟︎
phf: and both 4.6 and 4.4 refuse to compile it. a temporary workaround is to compile with `make vdiff -D_Noreturn='
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-23#1785630 << so offending attribute is _Noreturn, which is a c11 feature that was only introduced in 4.7. but! i tested with 4.6.4 on freebsd before release, i now also compiled 4.4.3 and it still works. running cpp-4.4 on the file it looks like something in freebsd headers actually replaces _Noreturn with an __attribute__ call that older gcc's support. with a test file with `void _Noreturn foo() {...}' but without any includes, ☝︎
shinohai: Also, note to mod6, this was tested using new experimental `V` with changes, pm me later if you have questions but all seems to behave correctly.
mod6: So reading through some of the comments, questions, concerns rasised by mircea_popescu, and diana_coman, I started thinking yesterday that maybe -- since there are specifically hard-to-draw lines between mod6's role as Foundation Co-Chair, ben_vulpes's role as Foundation Co-Chair and their roles as ``managers'' or ``management'' in Pizarro ...
mod6: If the notion, ``there is no future for the republic without an isp'' (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-13#1783471) holds true, and mircea_popescu, hanbot, and diana_coman wish to see the Republic continue, we should all be putting aside differences to further the Republic. ☝︎
mod6: On a personal note, regarding "patience and support", I want to let it be known that it will be very hard if not impossible to make the ISP venture a success without the support of specficially, mircea_popescu, hanbot, diana_coman - and ``Minigame''. We need your business here.