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mircea_popescu: ah check it out, trilema has the header with the head errant today.
hanbot: i think that's a head rampant.
mircea_popescu: rompant lol
asciilifeform: oook so asciilifeform dug out his old experiment, in case anyone can win from it :
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2018-March/000293.html
asciilifeform: ^ and yes i classically-v-genesised it, given as there is not yet a new-v
asciilifeform: and yes there is a typo in readme, 't.xtal' should be 'test.xtal' .
asciilifeform: everything else is self-explanatory.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, phf , mod6 , trinque , et al ^^
asciilifeform: to see how this applies to $thread, take this , and then try gnudiffing the 'crystals' , then rename files, or move'em between dirs, and diff the resulting 'crystals' again, observe how only the 1 line that defined that 1 file's path, ends up changing
mod6: hey neat, i'll give this a closer look here tonight.
asciilifeform: don't burn too much time on this item, mod6 , it is strictly for vtronology.
mod6: thanks for the post asciilifeform
asciilifeform: all it does is the 'human readable tarball' trick.
asciilifeform: both to- and from- directions.
asciilifeform: quite possibly only trinque will find this tool interesting : it implements , i think, his favoured variant .
asciilifeform: ( or rather, just the whole-program representation therein -- it is not a vtron )
asciilifeform: anyways i've cluttered the l0gz enuff, that's all there is to this item currently.
asciilifeform: prolly i oughta preemptively answer the q of 'where are the hashes'. answ: hashing belongs in vtron, and would be of entire shebang produced by ^above .
asciilifeform back to wurk, bbl
asciilifeform: btw, ftr : ffa comes back from sabbatical next wk !
mod6: hey hey hey, lbj
mod6: asciilifeform: seems to do what is printed on the box (at least from a `txt2dir.py` point of view): http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/cVAQy/?raw=true
mod6: oh btw, the fg-genesis.vpatch and corresponding sig are not available via the archive.is link (originating from loper-os.org) ; You may want to post these some where accessable. I can throw them onto mod6.net if you like. ☟︎
mod6: Or, w/e, s.nsa site should be coming back shortly anyway.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yer site's 502 for the past half hour or so.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788411 << so in the end, this thread wasn't ever found was it ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-21 14:58 a111: Logged on 2016-02-21 02:14 mircea_popescu: (and for the record i will point out that tlp is anglotard enough to miss most of the substance. there's perfecty good reason everyone painted the same god damned vase with two apples next to it, and this has little do to with "you're not boring son ok" and a lot of fucking things to do with ... damn, where's that thread about ther ancient battlefield ?
mircea_popescu: god damned it was actually on trilema, not on trilema, which is why logsearch didn't turn it up. here, for all time : http://trilema.com/2014/a-conceit-or-the-importance-of-blogging/#selection-67.0-73.452
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-31#1791619 << they were mirrored from almost first hour of release at phf's http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=fg ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-31 04:48 mod6: oh btw, the fg-genesis.vpatch and corresponding sig are not available via the archive.is link (originating from loper-os.org) ; You may want to post these some where accessable. I can throw them onto mod6.net if you like.
asciilifeform: but moar mirrors never hurts.
asciilifeform: ( plus also in hardcopy included with every fg crate. )
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/heres-what-changed/ << Trilema - Here's what changed
mod6: lol derp, this for some reason didn't occur to me lastnight. aight nevermind.
mircea_popescu: and in other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-30#1791231 lulz, trilema archives deliver http://trilema.com/2014/parody-is-not-there-for-you-cancerous-fags-to-try-and-hide-your-cancer-behind-it/#footnote_3_55572 ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-30 05:21 douchebag: mircea_popescu: I have a girl but she is wondering if she's allowed to wear sunglasses
mircea_popescu: also 2018 is the year trilema actually took over my leisure reading needs. by now it's so old i've forgotten a large enough proportion of it the odds of hitting an interesting article loading my own blog actually exceed the odds of hitting something interesting by picking up a torrent, or opening the internets.
asciilifeform recalls approximately when this ^ had happened to uncle al
mircea_popescu: when ?
asciilifeform: some time around beginning of bush-I reign
mircea_popescu: did it show ?
asciilifeform: it did!
mircea_popescu: how ?
asciilifeform: started appending old essays to usenet posts
mircea_popescu: heh
asciilifeform: err, bush-II
mircea_popescu: did the whole thing become uninteresting, tritely self-referrential ?
asciilifeform: imho not. d00d 'quit while ahead'
mircea_popescu: i ain't fucking quitting.
asciilifeform: ~nobody ever does
mircea_popescu: i would really like a list of "all personal blogs older than a decade" right about now. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: but, of course, "you can find anything on the internet -- if you put it there yourself."
mircea_popescu: https://www.publiustx.net/ << "PubliusTX.net is Houston's longest running personal journal/weblog on politics and culture."
mircea_popescu: all fine and good, except the penultimate article is "Happy (belated) 2018! Posted by Kevin on January 6, 2018 So, I kind of missed my annual/placeholder Happy New Year post this time around…"
mircea_popescu: this is not a fucking blog.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ilkka kokkarinen's ~first~ blog, is ~almost~ old enuff: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752572 ; and imho notbad ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-17 03:56 asciilifeform: from same thread, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ilkka.zip << still there, still afaik only copy of his 1st blog in existence on public net
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "first blog" is autodisqualified. what's this, like "hot girl's first body" ? what are we, snakes ?
mircea_popescu: "bitcoin scammer's first identity" next.
asciilifeform: it was pantsuit-bulldozed
asciilifeform: but if looking for continuous ones -- i've nuffin
mircea_popescu: did he die ?
mircea_popescu: in the buldozing i mean
asciilifeform: he was defrocked from his professorship iirc; then sued, won, opened new blog, then some time in 2012 it happened again, but after this vanished. ( see thread )
asciilifeform: !#s ilkka
a111: 48 results for "ilkka", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=ilkka
mircea_popescu: (anyway, remind me of the ocarine dood once i signal i'm done reading mazepath. which may take the year or something)
asciilifeform: aite.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so how does this check out ? he had no copies of the old one or what.
asciilifeform: some folx have a strange attitude to own writing. i can even better understand the folx who burn their symphonies; but the indifferent -- i have nfi what broke in their heads.
mircea_popescu: so if he doesn't care, why would i ?
asciilifeform: no particular reason. but d00d figures prominently in asciilifeform's cabinet of curios -- 'old, sane, technically literate bl0gz'
asciilifeform: there aint many to choose from.
mircea_popescu: seems to me a modicum of self respect is nevertheless an absolute requisite for even showing face in a public forum.
mircea_popescu: "maybe i don't have much to say ; and maybe what i have to say isn't even that interesting ; but at least i give it my best shot, and i am aware there's nothing else that's me."
mircea_popescu: whereas i find VEHEHERY objectionable the usual "oh, what kangaroo court said is what i ~really~ am, that defines me". and so following.
asciilifeform: d00d had a healthy audacity and wrote under his own name etc. but then in the end burned everyffin.
asciilifeform: ( never even said , the last time, the reason why. )
mircea_popescu: nevermind the "my lawyer advised me not to comment on the pending case" ; rather instead "sorry your honor, that won't look good on my blog"
mircea_popescu: first things first.
mircea_popescu: in vaguely related news, " <p>Personally, I love personal blogs. I&#8217;m a sucker for HuffingtonPost, xoJane, and all those other sites with tons of juicy and interesting content.</p>" sez idiot giving advice on how to be blogful ; his page has js-disabled copy-pasting. which evidently works.
asciilifeform: at any rate asciilifeform is not his literary agent. moar of grave robber. nobody gotta look in the sarcophagus if they dun want.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, i'm not objecting to the thing itself, just mostly thinking out loud.
mircea_popescu: (for the young reader : xojane was some bullshit wanna-be "platform" for imaginary "cimmunities" that got bought by the suckers (time warner) in 2015 and frozen in 2016. because myspace wasn';t enough or something. and huffington post, well, need i even point out, it was exactly the same thing, ran by a nigger somewhat more dextrous still. adriana made out ok from the swindle.)
mircea_popescu: let's preserve, actually : https://www.xojane.com/beauty/news/best-xovain-articles
mircea_popescu: "Four years ago this month, I found out that Jane Pratt — the editor that had made me want to be an editor since I was 12 years old — had chosen me to be the beauty director of her new xoJane beauty spinoff, xoVain. OK, so I was actually her second choice — her first had fallen through — but that was OK. I had previously not even pitched to xoJane because I was so intimidated and sure I'd be rejected, so getting hired ☟︎
mircea_popescu: for a full-time editorial position in any capacity under Jane Pratt, with or without someone else's name crossed off next to mine, felt like an honor."
mircea_popescu: "marci" totally watched too much that-lesbian-interest-flick-with-the-older-woman-and-shoes, w/e it was called.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thx
ben_vulpes: pff nuffin in logs
phf: trinque: have you seen https://masteringpostgresql.com? it's by dimitri fontaine, who's a major postgresql contrib, but he also wrote pgloader, a proggy for etl into postgresql, which he wrote in common lisp; you get mentions of clos and naggum and such in his book.
phf: i saw it on a colleagues table, started reading it, and it looks sensible and educational. first time i borrow a book from a coworker :o
phf: ben_vulpes: mimisbrunnr perhaps needs a list of fellow bots, so that it ignores links from bot quotes. i remember we had conversations about how to handle it long time ago, but i don't remember what the resolution was. a111 maintains a list of all bots, which is just manually updated
mircea_popescu: phf the idea was that the behaviour is fine as it is.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-31#323153 ☟︎☝︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-31 16:26 mircea_popescu: and in other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-30#1791231 lulz, trilema archives deliver http://trilema.com/2014/parody-is-not-there-for-you-cancerous-fags-to-try-and-hide-your-cancer-behind-it/#footnote_3_55572
mircea_popescu: oh, i guess not. a111 dun read its own lines sometimes does it ?
phf: mircea_popescu: a111 doesn't read anything from bots, i can disable it but that will obviously create a mutually recursive loop of flood
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-31#1791691 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-31 17:50 mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-31#323153
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-31 16:26 mircea_popescu: and in other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-30#1791231 lulz, trilema archives deliver http://trilema.com/2014/parody-is-not-there-for-you-cancerous-fags-to-try-and-hide-your-cancer-behind-it/#footnote_3_55572
mircea_popescu: phf kinda what that ended up with, "let's see how deep it can possibly get"
phf: ah interesting
BingoBoingo: !!up Nicole__
deedbot: Nicole__ voiced for 30 minutes.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/bearish-news-for-the-dollar-as-renmibi-moves-into-oil-markets/ << Qntra - Bearish News For The Dollar As Renmibi Moves Into Oil Markets