BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe you should shoot him an email and see if live.
BingoBoingo: Well, yeah. The natural contents of the message would be "Hey, you have an interesting public key. Who is your daddy and what did he teach you?"
mircea_popescu: well since you're building lists : there's a thing the heeathens have, which intermediates action sales. "clickbank" or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: ie, you can have the sale-on-ocmission thing mechanized to some degree.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 19:21 ben_vulpes: the active filtering i'd like to put in is either a regular set of eyeballs (BingoBoingo's, or the mentioned-tangentially sales guy to hire) on the "design" corners of these hosting forums to pm our ads for shells on the shared server to folks who are building websites directly
mircea_popescu: their only relation to their shared server is a box where they explain to you what they want done.
mircea_popescu: sorta premium-shared, catering to what most "non-technical" people actually want from a website.
mircea_popescu: i know a bunch of people tried this, some of which managed to bootstrap themselves into middle class existences (from humble orc nobodyhood) ; but plenty failing miserably.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:52 ben_vulpes: mod6: doesn't really make a difference to the books, a liability is a liability. it's going to show up on the balance sheet regardless.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 20:56 BingoBoingo: mod6: Well pizarro got billed for the dentist. The doctor is out of my pocket. Part of the idea is getting these things off of Pizarro's line and into my own.
mircea_popescu: i can see the point, too, "i am so many years old and not getting younger ; if i sit and twiddle my thumbs in this jungle rather than some other jungle it'd better not be just so i end up 40 something and asked "Кто..." and not have an answer"
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815045 << the make food area incidentally is easy to misjudge. it'll make a world of difference, both in qol and what that qol costs, once you get a proper kitchen going. ideally with womanly help as i dunno you're that competent. have bread going every other day, have a pot of soup always, the good old strictures of european ie civilised life.
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:16 ben_vulpes: sure, but i'm talking about quality of existence here. own place to shit, own food prep area, not having to constantly piss on preferred chairs. it buys security for effects, and calm of mind that i think BingoBoingo underestimates (unless he is a very different animal from what i imagine)
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:33 mod6: Everyone wins: BB gets his raise, and 1 BTC end of feb 2019, and we get to hang on to a bit of cash for the summer to help ouselves out.
ben_vulpes: i can see it opening up the altcoinist scam market for least-effort websites
ben_vulpes: are there other things besides wordpress that fit the bill for this kind of thing?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, well, depends what they want. but basically.
mircea_popescu: consider how fiercely loyal alf is to that dumbass outfit, nfw or w/e it's called. it's over something like this.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:36 mod6: BingoBoingo: bud, you need your own place to hang your hat, you're a Lord of the Republic, not a random street orc.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815082 << i was able to find (after A LOT of expert searching, it is true) furnished apts conveniently located for all the girls ; didn't end up paying much of anything upfrtont either (they wanted a month's rent, i was paying quarterly anyway, so it sorta went away). gotta talk to "the people" (=dueno) though, "agencies" aren't so useful. but there's a 5% of the population that makes ends m
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:37 BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: help me enumerate these costs? A substantial guarentee upfront (3-6 months rent) and then furnishing the apartment.
mircea_popescu: well, so they'll fuck people's public_html for them, it's how "don;'t take over box plox" works.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-03 18:05 mircea_popescu: !!rate mocky 2 remarkably mentally organized eulora noob.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 23:33 asciilifeform: aaalso about to do a primality walk, where (ditto from corner case) a prime p is known where m/p is a prime q but q was not registered.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 23:28 asciilifeform: achtung phuctor readers! about to remove 676 spurious factors ( they equal their moduli, and are factors of no others) from the db; these crept in in late 2016
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:39 mod6: there's a guy we know in BSAS who can hook you up with a cage and whipping post/cross thing too if you need 'em.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:43 mod6: Yeah, maybe we could commit to some amount now, then build in a bouns structure for sales met or something.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, "but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max" << on what basis ? deductive approach from lack of experience ?
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815103 << understand though that the only reason they're surprising is because they weren't handled either properly or in time. there's a lot of leeway in how surprising the sort of predictable surprises are, by being what's called "proactive"
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 22:46 mod6: So my willingness to keep putting money into this is contingent on whether or not we can even reach profitibility. Which we'll never get there if "raises" and other "surpises" keep coming ujp.
mircea_popescu: ie, don't discover that a guy who's there at your pleasure is sitting on arms all day long contemplating roaches climb the walls because ~i point it out~, don't be surprised by the attentand morale issues.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the ssh key thing. "pay some dough, have the capacity to add ssh keys"
mircea_popescu: but generally it's not "things you couldn't do at home" ; but "things you can't be arsed to do at home"
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mthreat was there too with some girlies neh ? << chetty too
mircea_popescu: mod6, we were talkign about the cocks being sucked in corners bdsm club thing.
mod6: sooo hot in there, omg. mod6 in a three-piece and a 40lb backpack.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:28 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815092 << you didn't even give him a workorder yet (as you don't evne have a sales plan yet) and you want to add incentives to it ? kinda ass-backwards!
mod6:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-18#1815181 << it occurs to me that my statmens re surprises are unwarrented. i had only remembered the 1BTC in feb of 19, i somehow entirely forgot the other 7500 a part. so wasn't a surprise, just something that i somehow blocked out.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:32 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815103 << understand though that the only reason they're surprising is because they weren't handled either properly or in time. there's a lot of leeway in how surprising the sort of predictable surprises are, by being what's called "proactive"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, phuctor is kinda deliberately designed to not be a "only us" item. so what can you do.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 21:36 mod6: BingoBoingo: bud, you need your own place to hang your hat, you're a Lord of the Republic, not a random street orc.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> logo! << as long as it costs ~0 i'm game :D
☟︎ mircea_popescu: if only artists weren't thoroughly illiterate, we could like, have one.
mod6: oh yeah, i gotta get some extra sleep tonight before i do something dumb. like type my root password in here.
mircea_popescu: imo the former is a bad move. the 2nd is nb, but meh. someone will go steal someone's popsicle and random posturing dork will go "conspiracy!!!" and i won't care but you'll have to either shoot a "judge" or talk to him.
mircea_popescu: i thought he was just done explaining how he didn't like surprises. wanna go for a round yourself ?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, phuctor is kinda deliberately designed to not be a "only us" item. so what can you do.
mircea_popescu: not everything has to be monetized. though of course considering how you'd do it is just about mandatory.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you could of course put in ye olde mp-wp page limiter, and give all the boecks a very sad surprise.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:16 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, "but i think 20 shell accounts and 100 lower-end ftp-only accounts is probably the max" << on what basis ? deductive approach from lack of experience ?
mircea_popescu: i don't recall exactly how it was done ; but all trilema was google indexed.
mircea_popescu: well, still is. that's the part the dweebs rarely understand : trilema is 10k articles that are as interesting today as they ever were. they imagine just because nobody looks for 2015 huffington post in 2018 and no other sites have the sort of size trilema does besides "news" outlets, that such a thing dun exist. but it does exist -- the bugs luv the blackbody radiations.
mircea_popescu: if one thing can be done with machine-powered text classifiers, is discovering just how utterly uninteresting 10`000 articles on feminist-daily nonsense outlet actually are.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a guess at what storage a 10 dollar/mo plan might be reasonably marketed at, informed by scrolling through a few pages of shared hosting offers and looking at a few in detail
mircea_popescu: be sure to make a point of pointing out this is true allocated fs space, as most everyone sells a number but delivers a best effort
mircea_popescu: kinda how google showed "free inbox space" on gmail for a while.
mod6: early bed time. ni ni
trinque: file is there, known good, etc
trinque is peeling back the layers trying to see what gpg is cranky about. meanwhile, why'd the (defpackage :v ...) go away?
☟︎☟︎ trinque: I don't think it's good form to litter the COMMON-LISP-USER package with this.
mircea_popescu: (original name of ye olde persian empire, the thing the greeks fought/emulated, cyrus' creation.)
deedbot: fettiffany voiced for 30 minutes.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 04:20 mircea_popescu: aand in other "shit that wasn't in the logs yet", 𐏃𐎧𐎠𐎶𐎴𐎡𐏁
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, anyway, i ended up with a lot of cuneiform syllabusing because check this out : the principal trick of darius was to pretend the person he deposed ~wasn't~, actually, the person they claimed to be. ie, nebuchadnezzar morphed to an impostor (Nedintu-something), bardiya (brother of legitimate persian king) was really "gaumata" etc etc.
mircea_popescu: pretty interesting device in light of how the current empire works. it's a wonder they didn't discover "it wasn't hillary that lost, but a different hydra of the same name"
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:51 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> logo! << as long as it costs ~0 i'm game :D
lobbes: I have the sword and the "P" saved as vector images, so scaling and general fiddling shouldn't be an issue if you want me to
mircea_popescu: might be an idea to use a trace of the dood's face. he has an epic "wut ?" face imo.
lobbes: This I am not sure of. My gut says a small percentage of each sale, but I've no idea what constitutes a "standard percentage" here. I am also a) inexperienced in sales, and b) motivated on the basis that the tmsr crisis isn't really over until a profitable Pizarro exists, so I'm pretty open on terms >>
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1814925 ☝︎ a111: Logged on 2018-05-17 19:28 ben_vulpes: lobbes, and BingoBoingo while i'm at it since i want to get you on the same train, what kind of commission makes sense to you for flogging shared shells?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 01:23 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815082 << i was able to find (after A LOT of expert searching, it is true) furnished apts conveniently located for all the girls ; didn't end up paying much of anything upfrtont either (they wanted a month's rent, i was paying quarterly anyway, so it sorta went away). gotta talk to "the people" (=dueno) though, "agencies" aren't so useful. but there's a 5% of the population that makes ends m
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Package in enduring the local rite of passage know as waiting in line. By all appearances DHL dorcs and Aduanas orcs should work it out before too long.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 00:49 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-17#1815045 << the make food area incidentally is easy to misjudge. it'll make a world of difference, both in qol and what that qol costs, once you get a proper kitchen going. ideally with womanly help as i dunno you're that competent. have bread going every other day, have a pot of soup always, the good old strictures of european ie civilised life.
mod6: how goes asciilifeform ?
mod6: ah. what model are those ones?
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 8081.58, vol: 8312.10405631 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 8075.7, vol: 28116.92948719 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 8073.5, vol: 4899.89873207 | Volume-weighted last average: 8076.62176092
deedbot: Invoiced ben_vulpes 0.22286546 << May 2018 BB refuel ( 1800 )
mod6: Thanks again, asciilifeform !
deedbot: IamNotWhatIam voiced for 30 minutes.
Mircea_PopeSkew: I will come back with a real identity and ask my encryption question to someone who will understand, like you.
deedbot: douchebag_junior may not $down Mircea_PopeSkew.
douchebag: also i'd like to note he's going to be perma voiced unless the bot was updated
BingoBoingo: What are the glyphs, I see generic unicode noise character
BingoBoingo: That's an entire system of encoding. Is unicode broken enough to squeeze that into two glyphs?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo, approximately ha-xā-ma-ni-š. "friendly minded"
BingoBoingo: I like the part in dude's fever dream where hash functions just "come" with "more advantages"
mod6: And I don't think it's whatever USD. Per the conversation it's $5000 USD worth of BTC right?
mod6: oops, wrong channel
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 8225.55, vol: 8332.63719846 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 8230.5, vol: 29181.858867100003 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 8226.8, vol: 4927.09850888 | Volume-weighted last average: 8229.0986196
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 19:13 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: go ahead and invoice now is fine
BingoBoingo: !!v E9BC80AD1CB0042F2B2C8F970DC286B304A7B4991154F0323CF154F85EED51C9
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-05-18 19:13 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: go ahead and invoice now is fine
deedbot: fettiffany voiced for 30 minutes.
mod6: !!reputation fettiffany
mod6: Hai, what brings ya here?
fettiffany: i was talking with someone, he brought me here
mod6: Ah, gotcha. Well, generally, if you want to be a person, you need to get yourself a key and register with deedbot. Then you can self-voice, and participate. As one does.
mod6: Mr. P. may help you through this process, I dunno. This is genrally the steps for newbs tho.
mod6: See, this is why I never answer the door.
☟︎ mod6: You've basically come to the chamber of The Most Serene Republic.
danielpbarron: this "site" is a chat room for people involved in Bitcoin to talk about anything. having a key registered lets you participate with more features
fettiffany: oh.. i see.. but i don't have nothing to do with bitcoins so.. hahaha
danielpbarron: stick around here and you will have something to do with bitcoin
deedbot: fettiffany voiced for 30 minutes.
hanbot: fettiffany, make any sense to you? and whaddya do with yourself when not stumbling into spooky irc dens?
fettiffany: Could you write me correctly? I don't understand that jargon
hanbot: fettiffany what's your mother tongue (first language)?
hanbot: ah. tenemos varios personas aqui que hablan espanol, pero normalmente si, hablamos en ingles. i asked you if the "declaration" you read a couple times made any sense to you, and in general what your hobbies/jobs are.
fettiffany: ya le habia dicho a mircea_popescu que solia trabajar en un call center pero despidieron a un monton de personas incluyendome. asi que me encuentro nuevamente buscando empleo, y aun peor porque no me encuntro en mi pais.
fettiffany: me gusta la musica, el canto, la fotografia.
fettiffany: mas o menos entendi el articulo, pero en si cual es el fin de todo?
fettiffany: te dare un acertijo, cual es el pais en donde gobierna un bigotudo hijo de puta?
hanbot: haha, asi todos son gobiernados por hijos de putas. ;D pero venezuela, eh?
fettiffany: y no, lamentablemente no tengo un blog.
ben_vulpes: funny how deeply the actual people notionally represented by the soi disant speakers for the people hate said speakers
☟︎ hanbot: fettiffany tenes que hacer uno, es siempre un buen idea. mientras tanto hay mucho aqui para leer, como la historia diaria
http://btcbase.org/log/ , y por supuesto el blog de mircea_popescu. me imagine que el va a ser activo aqui mas tarde hoy.
hanbot: ben_vulpes if they could mean for the people but not speak for them, then they'd have somethin' by george.
fettiffany: because socialism is crap, that's what has destroyed my country
☟︎ BingoBoingo: fettiffany: Qué otros paises tiene amigos y familia que se fue?
fettiffany: chile, argentina, uruguay, guatemala, colombia, brasil, canada, estados unidos... casi el mundo entero
deedbot: fettiffany voiced for 30 minutes.
hanbot: "'I'm ready for the battle, ready to make history," the 55-year-old politician bellowed at his final campaign rally in Caracas on Thursday, where he was flanked by the Argentinian football star Diego Maradona and wore a pickle-coloured shirt emblazoned with the image of Hugo Chavez." (via archive.is/YSHZF) << pickle-coloured shirt, eh? methinks the guardian's been reading BingoBoingo's blog lol
fettiffany: a china? no. no conozco a nadie en china
fettiffany: lo habria hecho antes pero pensaba que venezuela saldria de la crisis. y no fue asi.
trinque: fettiffany: I'm curious, how widespread is the realization in venezuela that "socialism is crap"?
fettiffany: et's see. in 2012 there was an economic crisis in venezuela, but you still went to the supermarket and got products. Today 2018 in the supermarkets there is nothing and if you get a product the price is equivalent to a minimum salary. How are people supposed to eat, buy medicine or clothes?
trinque: sure, but do most people say "boohoo, govt needs to stock the shelves", "fuck the government" or both?
BingoBoingo: fettiffany: From what I understand they get it in the mail from people outside the country and the mail gets stolen in transit.
fettiffany: 153/5000 since hugo chavez entered the presidency venezuela was decaying every day, until he died and left the piece of shit that is today president
fettiffany: they all complain, they march and protest but it's useless.
☟︎ fettiffany: According to Diosdado they were going to charge a percentage of the remittances that family members made to Venezuela. and that's a steal
fettiffany: de harina de maiz, blanca o amarilla. rellena de muchas cosas.
BingoBoingo: Yo prefiero arepas venezolanas. Arepas Colombianas son mas delgadas, con cosas encima. Y de harina mas duro.
ben_vulpes: fettiffany: are folks buying/selling bitcoins and dollars? how are folks defending against the inflation
fettiffany: a mi solo me gustan las arepas que yo preparo. las hago un poco dulces
deedbot: fettiffany voiced for 30 minutes.
fettiffany: hat's the worst, they spend their time complaining about inflation and dollar today (it's a page that puts the prices of the dollar and the euro at black market prices) and they are selling dollars and bitcoins or satoshis at exaggerated prices. they complain when they are supporting corruption
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 20:29 mod6: See, this is why I never answer the door.
mircea_popescu: you're too nice, yo. the 2nd line in the "trust, but verify" cuneiform manual is "answer the door, answer, but with nailed club."
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 20:29 fettiffany: actually i have no idea what this site is
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 21:10 ben_vulpes: funny how deeply the actual people notionally represented by the soi disant speakers for the people hate said speakers
hanbot: how the fuck do you get killed by daschunds?!
mircea_popescu: but in general, the surest way to ensure the deepest level of hatred that can be summoned in any situation is to pretend to things outside purview. dumbos claiming to be "presidents" etc just about do it.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: That's why it's news. Part of the collapse freakshow.
mircea_popescu: unlike me, dogs generally think it's worth their time to eat shit.
hanbot: i guess monty python's brutal rabbit is next.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 21:15 ben_vulpes: porque no te gustas maduro?
a111: Logged on 2018-05-18 21:34 fettiffany: they all complain, they march and protest but it's useless.
mircea_popescu: the sooner the spare fucktards understand nobody wants them, the better for everyone.
ben_vulpes: ah shoot, thank you. the finer points have slipped away.
mircea_popescu: it's not so much that "the shelves are empty". it's that the shelves aren't worth filling. not for these dorks.
mircea_popescu: and i'm pretty sure the realization is spreading faster than they are. why would anyone bother to "keep the populace content" in 2018 ? to what exactly, get type A twitter storms ?
mircea_popescu: "This is not a guide to a correct Eulora build on Windows. It’s the story of how someone did it while knowing virtually nothing about the tools, language or project. For all I know, it’s the worst way to do it that ends up working. " << i really like how this dood's mind is organized.
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