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phf: ^ comments welcome, hanbot let me know if you have problems getting it working, feedback from mp-wp would be appreciated
mod6: phf: was able to press just fine, I did get an error on build, but it still spit me out a vdiff: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5Szrt/?raw=true
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/21/the-hostel-as-home/ << Bingo Blog - The Hostel As Home
mod6: fwiw I used that binary produced, even with the error, to test and see if it would yield the same vdiff as the original would, and so far, looks like it works just the same as printed on the box. I don't have as good of a test case as hanbot will have tho. Mine was very basic.
mod6: here's what my test looks like: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/7Y0RU/?raw=true
mod6: again, uber simple, i encourage everyone out there to test with wider testcases ofc.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785473 << thanks for fast testing! the warning is harmless, i frankly got desensitized to it, and it slipped through the cracks. the entire error.c needs to be cut anyway, but it's a low hanging fruit ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-22 00:18 mod6: phf: was able to press just fine, I did get an error on build, but it still spit me out a vdiff: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5Szrt/?raw=true
mod6: alright! My bad before, that problem wasn't an "error" proper, it was a Warning, a Warning in 'error.c'. If I'd read more carefully I'd probably have noticed.
mod6: Anyway, phf did a quick change. It's all good now:
mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/lk75b/?raw=true
mod6: If anyone is curious what the sha512s are for those vpatches & sigs I used in my latest test, they are here: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vV3ti/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: exciting times.
mod6: yeah, indeed.
mod6: how goes today?
mircea_popescu: pretty great. on the tail end of a "hey, wanna go to the beach ?" "sure!"
mod6: that sounds nice.
ben_vulpes would dearly like to arbitrarily hie to the beach
mod6: ^
mircea_popescu: it's only like 50 miles or so
mod6: that's not too bad. bout an hour drive eh?
mircea_popescu: oh, and also, the police here utterly don't gaf. car doing 150 in an 80 zone, highway patrol right there, couldn't be arsed.
mircea_popescu: it's like a better romania of the 90s.
mod6: nice :]
mircea_popescu: so sunset on teh beach.
ben_vulpes: !!deed http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/pizarro_charter.ben_vulpes.asc
deedbot: accepted: 1
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/bundle-510352.txt
ben_vulpes: btcvixen: can't even afford an irc client that stays connected all the time, can you
ben_vulpes: nah it's funnier this way
ben_vulpes: gonna call my office again?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what's the trilema where you do the math on variance in abilities between the sexes?
deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/why-are-the-kids-hell-bent-on-killing-each-other << CH - Why are the kids hell-bent on killing each other?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes http://trilema.com/2017/the-boundless-burden/ ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "ridiculously outsized"
mircea_popescu: also, have you ever considered paragraphs ?
mircea_popescu: or you know, commas maybe ? non run-on sentences ?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/cu-cartile-pe-masa-un-fleac-l-au-ciuruit/ << Trilema - Cu cartile pe masa : un fleac, l-au ciuruit.
deedbot: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/02/22/eucrypt-chapter-11-serpent/ << Ossasepia - EuCrypt Chapter 11: Serpent
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785472 <- I confirm it pressed fine + it vdiffed eucrypt's chapter 11 files as expected - with the difference in order of files as your post clearly states; for anybody interested, see ^ for the diff of the 2 vpatches ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-22 00:01 phf: ^ comments welcome, hanbot let me know if you have problems getting it working, feedback from mp-wp would be appreciated
mircea_popescu: nice
shinohai: phf, I also have successfully pressed your vdiff, works fine so far. I excised error.c and error.h from mine in second build, per: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785478 also worked fine. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-22 01:00 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785473 << thanks for fast testing! the warning is harmless, i frankly got desensitized to it, and it slipped through the cracks. the entire error.c needs to be cut anyway, but it's a low hanging fruit
shinohai: Also, note to mod6, this was tested using new experimental `V` with changes, pm me later if you have questions but all seems to behave correctly.
asciilifeform: !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/pizarro_charter.asciilifeform.txt
deedbot: accepted: 1
BingoBoingo: !!deed http://aaronrogier.net/pizaro.txt
deedbot: accepted: 1
mod6: Mornin'
shinohai: morning mod6
mod6: how goes shinohai?
shinohai: ok here and you?
mod6: Doin well! Combing through this charter.
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/bundle-510424.txt
mod6: !!deed http://www.mod6.net/pizarro/charter.txt.asc
deedbot: accepted: 1
mod6: Here's my detached sig: http://www.mod6.net/pizarro/pizarro_charter_genesis.vpatch.mod6.sig
mod6: Ah crap. Disregard this ^ -- I screwed up and created a detached sig of the charter.txt proper, not the vpatch. hurr durr.
mod6: fwiw, V caught this mistake: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Kxkxe/?raw=true
shinohai: nice work V
mod6: silver lining 'eh
mod6: this time i was like "WAT?!", but then i was like "ok, MOST of the time this thing is correct if it's complaining, I must have did something wrong... but what could it be?!"
mod6: then it dawned on me.
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/bundle-510428.txt
mod6: Alright, fixed. Link is the same as before: http://www.mod6.net/pizarro/pizarro_charter_genesis.vpatch.mod6.sig
mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/vHzJf/?raw=true
mod6: My apologies.
ben_vulpes: neato mod6 tyvm
mod6: yw
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/npm/npm/issues/19883
ben_vulpes: > Critical Linux filesystem permissions are being changed by latest version
mircea_popescu: mostly amusing for the "someone somewhere is actually still trying to push this "latest version" wank".
mod6: hue. he went to jared.
ben_vulpes: trinque and anyone else interested in colocating with Pizarro, here's a draft contract for review: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/MBQmX/?raw=true
ben_vulpes: trinque: can i get the pizarro website's rss feed added to deedbot?
deedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/?p=3 << PizzaroISP - Provisional Charter for Pizarro
deedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/?p=5 << PizzaroISP - Provisional Articles of Incorporation, notes
trinque: there ya go
ben_vulpes: groovy, gracias
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1784957 << sounds great; I'll work it in ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-19 14:57 mircea_popescu: then the corresponding can also be implemented (l1 can have any blog added). vaguely curious as to results.
ben_vulpes: great now we can get https://www.oglaf.com/feeds/rss/
mircea_popescu: old style clubs' way of working, at any rate
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dunno that i could be arsed to read/whatever a contract tbh ; but do you have a gearlist or anything yet ?
ben_vulpes: not yet, still wrapping up the first courier run. when you say gearlist, you mean "machines Pizarro is buying and will lease out"?
ben_vulpes: i have one machine that's about to come out of the crate that i'll detail on the blog; i'd intended it for vpsen but would also be happy to lease it entire.
ben_vulpes: hey mod6 if there's demand for boxes, would you be averse to selling the machines we got for the foundation to pizarro for leasing on? we can always get another couple of machines, it's not as though the two we bought for the foundation are super important to get racked right now; i'm sure other folks might be willing to rent 'em out and that'd be a great thing for pizarro's cashflow
mod6: Hmm.
mod6: Well, first off, those are The Foundation's assets.
mod6: There may be some accounting considerations.
mod6: Feels like it'd be hairy. Although, I can see the possible necessity. If I can be convinced that the accounting will be simple and straightforward for the public, I'll consider it more.
ben_vulpes: i've got a pretty cut-and-dried cost basis for those two machines. it'll look like an line expense for the machines and hardware, followed by a line of income for sale-of-assets matching to the satoshi, plus possibly a token fee to the foundation for assembling them.
mod6: The goal for the Foundation is to get 2, 1U rack spaces for machines to host trb + webhost/mirror.
mod6: I think the foundation should avoid this sale.
ben_vulpes: mk then
mod6: I suppose, if we could get the following commitments: 1) Someone in L1 (L2?) to source two new machines [with equiv specs] for The Foundation, delivered to ben_vulpes March 31st. 2) A delivery plan for these two new machines to Pizaroo in .uy.
mod6: 3) Pizarro to signoff on 2U reserved for The Foundation.
mod6: That may make it satisfactory.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/fickle-fiat-twenty-year-old-social-media-user-knocks-1-3-billion-usd-off-snapchat-market-cap/ << Qntra - Fickle Fiat: Twenty Year Old Social Media User Knocks 1.3 Billion USD Off Snapchat Market Cap
mod6: jurov: I sent an email to the ML, but isn't showing up. I can confirm that the clearsigned data verifies on my end.
mod6: Lords and Ladies of TMSR~, I am happy to announce the release of my V : version 99993 K. The tarball has been posted to the website http://thebitcoin.foundation : Also, take note, the trb-howto guide linked on The Foundation website has also been updated.
shinohai: dibs on first 2 verify
mod6: Thanks shinohai
shinohai: o7
shinohai: and phf's diff + ur vtron passed a personal vtest 2gether as well
shinohai: for my genesis on btcinfo
mod6: Thanks for testing shinohai. Very useful work.
shinohai: ty
mod6: !!up Loren
deedbot: Loren voiced for 30 minutes.
Loren: I just read the declaration of sovereignty. I found it very interesting, but I'm leaving because I have nothing interesting to say. I've to read the logs first.
mod6: Alright
mod6: Loren: That's the best approach, happy to see that. Stop back if you have Q's.
shinohai: Esperamos que pronto vueltas!
spyked: hey mod6, I just checked v99993 using ffa ch1-5 and also used it to test a press of phf's vtools and it works fine. NB: Debian systems are now pretty much broken and won't allow setting the default gpg to v1, so I had to manually replace the gpg calls in v.pl to use gpg1.
shinohai: neat spyked ... had any luck w/ w3m-js ?
mod6: hey spyked, thanks for testing & the report back.
spyked: yw! (also, ty for the release!)
mod6: np, yw :]
spyked: hi shinohai. I compiled it and ran it, but running trilema js still doesn't work. I've also tried a few other browsers with similar results. I am trying some simpler js snippets to get an idea of what works and what not
spyked: will write up a blog post when I'm done
mod6: trinque: (and others) let's circle back around and catch up cuntoo sometime in early march.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/missouri-governor-arrested-by-saint-louis-pantsuits-for-invasion-of-privacy-allegations/ << Qntra - Missouri Governor Arrested By Saint Louis Pantsuits For "Invasion of Privacy" Allegations
shinohai: neat, thanks! I got weird behavior for most part when i last compiled
trinque: mod6: finished item's sitting on my blog, waiting for others to test
mod6: yup, i recall. thanks for posting that. I need to go through the steps myself. maybe can do here in the next couple of weeks.
mod6: I'd love to see others step up and work through that as well.
trinque: would be great. once I've gotten feedback from several folks I'll genesis.
spyked: shinohai, my guess so far is that text browsers completely lack window interaction (e.g. scrolling, text highlighting), so they can't do the Trilema bits. but I want to be able to give a proper answer, which requires a bit of debugging.
spyked: and there are other things missing, e.g. links2 doesn't do regex parsing.
shinohai: im using uxrvt if that matters btw
spyked: me too
trinque: mod6: contributed kernel configs for good hardware (goes right along with the republic's recommended hardware list) are wanted
mod6: Alright, noted. I'm basically using some generics + one that has broadcomm support.
mod6: Not sure of those are altogether interesting. But if they are, can throw them somewhere for review.
shinohai: https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20180221201856
trinque: nah, idea is that "this is the *correct* kernel config for particular machine M"
trinque: and we get a repository of those going.
trinque: creates a place for debate on *what's* correct
trinque: kernel for machine M1 doesn't need any extra code present for drivers for M2
mod6: Ah, ok.
mod6: Sure, let's circle back around, I'll send what i've got. others can send theirs too.
mod6: republic needs its own os.
mod6: also to go along with pizarro's hardware, etc.
trinque: quite
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes for instance ; or machines pizarro thinks are worth racking, with pros and cons. or anything really.
mircea_popescu: spyked speaking of broken : "modern system" means that if you restart x, all gui apps die.
mircea_popescu: because why just fucking restart x.
mircea_popescu: and also, why the fuck would text browser lack highlighting. how's it supposed to even work.
mircea_popescu: mod6 it is incorrect to start with the pie-in-sky "own os" though. it is instead correct to start with a catalogue of usable if unideal extants.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell loren good idea to get your key in wot anyway ; otherwise the eventual "loren" will still be a day old item
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mod6: mircea_popescu: ah, ok.
mod6: ohhh 'un-ideal'. gotcha. was thinking "what does unideal mean?!"