mod6: !!up orgndnor
deedbot: orgndnor voiced for 30 minutes.
orgndnor: well, i've read a lot of material. most of the available logs, monsiuer p's blogs...
orgndnor: i guess lock down til the fuedalists return
orgndnor: hows the digital beanie babies, bros?
orgndnor: you got a weak jawline herr popescu
trinque: check out the walmart discount persona on this guy
trinque: !!down orgndnor
mod6: haha.
shinohai: >.>
mircea_popescu: what's a weak jewline ?
mircea_popescu: !!up orgndnor
deedbot: orgndnor voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: dun tell me it's what squarejaws call normal people.
orgndnor: well, in fact of matter, genetic appropriation might have relevance to intellectual heritage
mircea_popescu: what's that mean ?
orgndnor: your ideas are shitty and obsolete
mircea_popescu: in general or got anything specific ?
orgndnor: i mean, you are pedigreed, wealthy, educated, opinionated and idealistic
orgndnor: respect and all that shit, i assume that involves discipline.
mircea_popescu: you're not making much sense, you know. pick some priors and build a thread.
orgndnor: whats the goal man?
mircea_popescu: !#s causes and purposes
a111: 26 results for "causes and purposes", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=causes%20and%20purposes
orgndnor: yeah. that's exactly why i am here, again.
orgndnor: trilema will never die?
mircea_popescu: i dunno.
orgndnor: what kind of legacy is this?
mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care, either.
orgndnor: i get it if singularity is wsup. maybe you got inside tech knowledge.
mircea_popescu: what's a singularity and what's a wsup ?
orgndnor: you know goddamn well what te intention is with the wsup vernacular
mircea_popescu: try and understand that taking refuge in a string of nouns after having pointed out to you that most people will just discard out of hand strings of epithets as pure painstuitola isn't the best of strategies.
orgndnor: peasant here; walmart discount, yeah
mircea_popescu: mkay.
orgndnor: you're out of touchm sir
orgndnor: out of touch. you have something "interesting
orgndnor: but it'll be wiped into dust soon enough as this all will.
orgndnor: you a native romanian?
orgndnor: dpb told me trilema is anti-usgov.
orgndnor: "disruption of communication"
trinque: !!up BigTexasBingo
deedbot: BigTexasBingo voiced for 30 minutes.
trinque: hola senor boingo
BigTexasBingo: I can't be aresed to get out of bed for doganonor
orgndnor: the way of the future isn't through bitcoin, sirs; blockchain, maybe, but crypto? pipe dream!
BigTexasBingo: And I need an answer on what is wsup, and how does it connect to hair theory.
orgndnor: wsup = hood english transliterates to: "what is up" hence defining a query as to the current subject relevant
trinque: and he thought "this is it; I'll tell them how it really be, and they'll dig"
orgndnor: seeing as how this is the "serene" republic? most?
orgndnor: lo; well.
orgndnor: it don't be like it is but it do
mod6: herpa derpa
mircea_popescu: trinque the fundamental problem is that it's really unfair you'd listen to one but not another. how could this be! ALL THINGS ARE THE SAME THING etc
trinque: poor thing thinks I'm ingroup signaling with it
BigTexasBingo: Orangeponer: te falta
orgndnor: yeah i guess so
mircea_popescu: just that you can't possibly not be.,
mircea_popescu: the delusion of access is aftert all the fundamental cornerstone of pantsuitism. hence all the inept wank a la lucy, and hence the butthurt gal on day of failure comment section
orgndnor: well, fellows, you are just that much superior; no way i can engage.
BigTexasBingo: Orangeponer: Por favor poner una boligrapho en tu ano y sacar una foto
mircea_popescu: orgndnor did your mommy tell you sarcasm is what cucks do while in the cock cage ?
orgndnor: yes.
mircea_popescu: she had a point.
orgndnor: may the mother forever burn for such transgression.
orgndnor: so. do you guys ever smile?
BigTexasBingo: All the time
orgndnor: excellent excellent
BigTexasBingo: Y vos? Nunca hacer sonrisas con la chicas?
orgndnor: im gay; sir.
orgndnor: as in, homosexual.
mircea_popescu: the funny part isn't that he assumes we're heterosexuals ; but he assumes we know he's male.
BigTexasBingo: And what about your fag hags? Or are you not a cool gay.
orgndnor: uncool gay.
mircea_popescu: is that how incels digest their incelcity these days ?
orgndnor: i like to reside privately and peruse the worlds data to form my own assumptions.
orgndnor: ?? incels
mircea_popescu keeps fingers crosed in hope he used neologism correctly.
orgndnor: i don't use facebook or twatter, sir
BigTexasBingo: Then how do you get off Orangeponer
mircea_popescu: i thought this was an 8chan meme
BigTexasBingo: mircea_popescu used correctly. Me voy a dormir nuevamente. Not often a person can catch a live painsuit in the logs these days.
mircea_popescu: sleep tight.
mircea_popescu: and, in your case, dun let the bedbugs byte,
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-23#1785630 << so offending attribute is _Noreturn, which is a c11 feature that was only introduced in 4.7. but! i tested with 4.6.4 on freebsd before release, i now also compiled 4.4.3 and it still works. running cpp-4.4 on the file it looks like something in freebsd headers actually replaces _Noreturn with an __attribute__ call that older gcc's support. with a test file with `void _Noreturn foo() {...}' but without any includes, ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 01:20 hanbot: in today's lols, i go to make the new vdiff, i get http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WoPts/?raw=true
phf: and both 4.6 and 4.4 refuse to compile it. a temporary workaround is to compile with `make vdiff -D_Noreturn='
phf: also make vdiff `-D_Noreturn=__attribute__\\\((noreturn\\\))' is even better work around, but the combination of shell/makefile seems to pass the parenthesis through on bash but not on zsh...
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-23#1785651 << that works for me also, i seem to recall threads where alphabets were discussed and maybe byte order was dismissed, but my memory is vague on subject☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 04:41 mircea_popescu: specifically in our case, dot (2e) comes after dash (2d) ?
phf: hanbot: and another option is to use this http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/UpI9J/?raw=true vpatch, unsigned because i'd like to wait till wednesday to roll all the fixes and cuts together
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i've been quite enjoying your last articles btw.
mircea_popescu: hard sheep makes a life worth living, eh ?
mircea_popescu: !!rated BingoBoingo
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated BingoBoingo 4 at 2016/05/17 03:20:10 << his lordship the lord goebbels.
mircea_popescu: !!rate BingoBoingo 4 the gringo wildcatter
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ITPC6/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: (for the innocent : a wildcatter is say philiph's character in clemens' "the gilded age", or more generally any guy who sees a mine where no one else does.)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-24#1785845 << well, i'm trying to reopen them☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-24 04:56 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-23#1785651 << that works for me also, i seem to recall threads where alphabets were discussed and maybe byte order was dismissed, but my memory is vague on subject
mircea_popescu: truth -- the latins were idiots ; nevermind they didn't even have zero in their lol of a numeration system -- they didn't even have commas. or, for that matter, dots. meta-alphabetic notation (such as the dash here that permited me to ~signify~ something about symbol relation) is entirely a post-industrial invention. fuck, the bright minds of alchemy-era mathematics didn't even have =.
mircea_popescu: so the problem of how to alphabetically sort meta-alphabetic signs is not liable to be informed by ancient practice.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-24#1785844 << reworking the code so it doesn't rely on the complex macroconstructs not an option ?☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-24 04:54 phf: also make vdiff `-D_Noreturn=__attribute__\\\((noreturn\\\))' is even better work around, but the combination of shell/makefile seems to pass the parenthesis through on bash but not on zsh...
mircea_popescu: a there we go, extern void xalloc_die(void) __attribute__((noreturn));
mircea_popescu: seems rather the right approach neh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did i miss a picture post somehow ?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in unadorned physiology, http://78.media.tumblr.com/87f9274d8a7a376ff37b280ca6e95866/tumblr_nfeogeksF51ri9me7o1_400.gif
shinohai: gm mircea_popescu !
mircea_popescu: heya
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in old trilemas, http://trilema.com/2014/the-disadvantages-of-living-among-idiots/
mircea_popescu: i really should link that bit about teh bureaucrats more often.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i've been quite enjoying your last articles btw. << Thank you.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> hard sheep makes a life worth living, eh ? << It really does. Who knew getting fired could be such a great thing when the right person does the firing.
mircea_popescu: speaking of fire, http://trilema.com/2013/the-broad-and-the-million-fireants-a-parable/ !!!
mircea_popescu: i've been on a blogreading kick of late.
BingoBoingo: I have as well, in addition to the blog writing. Events have been very 2013 part II entonces feel I ought read more 2013 and 2014
mircea_popescu: i can see it.
BingoBoingo: AHA http://trilema.com/2014/the-disadvantages-of-living-among-idiots/#footnote_2_52366 and http://trilema.com/2018/mp-at-arenal-2003-2018-caution-steps-in-de-crease/#selection-247.0-247.786
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu . hands were full. but now have a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/triage_clocks_1.jpg and a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/triage_clocks_2.jpg .
asciilifeform: i'ma write an actual essay about time, when i figure out an actual rhythm worth writing of. currently all i have is a 'triage', to actually track what eats resource, and cut off deprioritized ( mainly , real-time interactions... ) items when running short.
mircea_popescu: candid means you're in there an' n ot posing for it!
asciilifeform: i ain't posing.
mircea_popescu: well yes, but you're also not visible!
asciilifeform: exceedingly difficult to fit both a little clock face and my face in 1 frame. ( doesn't mircea_popescu already have a picture of my mug , lol )
mircea_popescu: this isn't about to repeat pattern is it ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Girl has hands and aesthetic judgment?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: girl, since you mentioned, said, approx, 'this is dumb, and tell'em to piss off'.
mircea_popescu: unsupportive, eh. well, so sit it somewhere and turn on the timer, what can i tell ya.
asciilifeform: hmm lessee...
asciilifeform digs for a tripod
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/dour_mug_shot.jpg
asciilifeform: where's my tit fee!111
mircea_popescu shall deem this satisfactory.
mircea_popescu: and yes, re rythm : time discipline is not a torture device, it's a tool. it's supposed to help you achieve your goals not make life inconvenient.
asciilifeform: i must admit, i've been enjoying saying to various folx : 'sorry, out of time, laters'
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu isn't just saying things, to fit in with the crowd or the fashions of his generation or whatever. literally, "help you achieve your goals".
BingoBoingo: I've learned local moo cows get a bit more responsive the next time, after walking away from them because you have an appointment to make. Actual appointment not necessary.
asciilifeform: phf: your proggy built without eggog here, but then i saw and yes gcc 4.9
mircea_popescu: local receptionist girly (that's the supreme social achievement for the hairdresser class chickie here, being a doc's receptionist is almost as good as being marriewd to him) at the cima hospital (best in the country!!!) was utterly shocked when my response to her telling me the doctor who was like 10 mins late just called to say he's "on his way" but no specific eta wasn't "ok, ok" but "thast's unfortunate, i have other appo
mircea_popescu: intments".
mircea_popescu: i dunno if it did anything fgor them though, i've not been back
BingoBoingo: I'm still learning and this is a very rural city.
mircea_popescu: kinda how i recall it eyah
BingoBoingo: They area I'm in Pocitos/Buceo barrios were resort towns until the city swallowed them. Most of the other Barrios came into the city similarly as encampments and villages that the city just kind of grew into. Reading into the history here it was a sparsely populated country of men until the 1880's. Then the Italians came.
BingoBoingo: And 50,000 people turns into 1,000,000 plus and "Where my country gone"
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/02/theft-today-djibouti-breaks-contract-seizes-private-port/ << Qntra - Theft Today: Djibouti Breaks Contract Seizes Private Port
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: apparently "private port" w/o private army worth about as much as community college degree.
BingoBoingo: 1800's South America has some truly lulzy history. Buenos Aires and Brasilero Empire agree to make Uruguay as a buffer state. Proceed to beat up on Uruguay for a decade. Buenos Aires, Brasilero empire, and Uruguay make peace by going up river and beating Paraguay into pretribal Apocalypse.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well, that free chikkken!
BingoBoingo: In other history, whatever happened to MNW http://btcbase.org/log/2013-01-17#-161102☝︎
a111: Logged on 2013-01-17 00:26 mircea_popescu: "I've survived entirely on bitcoin for a whole year. "
mircea_popescu: ~nothing.
BingoBoingo: Seems to be the case with a lotta 2013 names
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-24#1785862 << that's the idea, but __attribute__ is a gcc specific feature. i'd like to have a catalog of such extension because i noticed there's few more here and there☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-24 15:22 mircea_popescu: seems rather the right approach neh ?
deedbot: http://pizarroisp.net/?p=9 << PizzaroISP - Gear for hire, March 2018
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-23#1785673 << makes sense, i just published the gear Pizarro has for hire immediately. i can either lease you that box *or* a vps on it :\ immediately, but i'll also be running more boxes down in the near future☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 15:34 mircea_popescu: also ben_vulpes : the thinking over at s.mg is that we want a dedicated box for teh server plus a vps for holding the website and such things, so we don't have to eat the whole apache overload on the game server.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so did you disable the me engine ? or "could be but hasn't been" ?
mircea_popescu: also, wasn't specifically a proposal ; was just an example, to get that ball rolling already.
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9712.88, vol: 13363.78940680 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9701.0, vol: 54104.34019513 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9729.6, vol: 9242.84054869 | Volume-weighted last average: 9706.5156004
mircea_popescu: !~calc 9706 * (0.014 + 0.048)
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 9706 * (0.014 + 0.048) = 601.772
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: talking about the mb/cpu combo in the abstract, imma nuke it on this machine for certainsure; will update post
mircea_popescu: maybe a little on teh expensive side, but, let's not be splitting hairs.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes consider it sold ; where do i pay ? send diana teh login details.
ben_vulpes: you wanna pay for a year of hardware up front and invoices for rack space as they come due?
mircea_popescu: do i still have to pay 2x the cost if i pay for the year upfront ?
mircea_popescu: ie, i'm willing to either buy the machine or rent it ; but pick one.
ben_vulpes: "buy" in the sense of the amortization thread with davout from http://btcbase.org/log/?date=01-07-2013#113889 ?
ben_vulpes: eg yours for the year but not purchasing the machine?
mircea_popescu: mno. if you rent it out for 2x what it costs to buy it over a year, then if i pay for the whole year i'm basically spending the same money as if buying the machine, but not actually buying it. this is a bum deal. i'm willing to rent it (ie, monthly) or buy it (ie, own it), but i'm not willing to eat the downside of both approaches.
ben_vulpes: i can give you a pretty steep discount for paying the year up front, but because i'm building out the downline i want to keep the box on the balance sheet. how about a 20% markup on the machine if you pay for the whole year?
mircea_popescu: so what's the deal here : i pay for a year, at the price of 0.048xxx * 12 / 2 * 1.2 ; at the end of the year i don't own the machine ; but if it breaks down during the year you replace it free of charge to me ?
BingoBoingo: AHA, the wonderful world of retail "rent to own contracts" has opened up. ben_vulpes how long do you plan to keep boxes on the balance sheet?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: one year
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 0.2881443 * 1.2 = .34577317 , and yes you'll have a spare
ben_vulpes: although perhaps i gotta sell it to you as i won't have a spare to fulfill that promise until the next run.
mircea_popescu: check you out, making money selling hardware insurance. easy $$$ when you know what you're doing.
mircea_popescu: aite, where do i send it ?
ben_vulpes: !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.345773172 one year of http://pizarroisp.net/?p=9
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ZBIMe/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: well also a month of rack
mircea_popescu: o wait, another point : i want 2 fgs into this thing. you dun have fgs do you ?
ben_vulpes: how about we wait until it's online, i'll take your handshake until then
mircea_popescu: sure.
ben_vulpes: all the fg sitting here are spoken for; did mod6 ever get a quote for the ten or so i wanted?
mircea_popescu: not yet. asciilifeform we gotta get a quote to these folk, what do you figure ?
ben_vulpes: aight, get me a quote. gonna head out for a run
mircea_popescu: word.
BingoBoingo: Is there a cannonical link for this classic somewhere in the archives rather than the toilet? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0;imode
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: our last price was 0.0395 ;
asciilifeform: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9605.91, vol: 13517.40635927 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9569.9, vol: 54815.60952992 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9595.5, vol: 9426.69958907 | Volume-weighted last average: 9579.2632713
mircea_popescu: ya but i mean...
mircea_popescu: how many do we have left ?
asciilifeform: !~calc 9606 * 0.0395
jhvh1: asciilifeform: 9606 * 0.0395 = 379.437
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: current stock here is 43 units.
asciilifeform unfortunately has to run, to meatspace; will be back later tonight.
mircea_popescu: aite.
mod6: I'd also like to buy five for personal use.
mod6: (Not to be confused with the 10 that Pizarro needs a quote for)
mod6: !~calc 0.0395 * 5
jhvh1: mod6: 0.0395 * 5 = 0.1975
mod6: Can pay mircea_popescu or alf directly, and send shipping info to alf if this is satisfactory. Just let me know what works.
mircea_popescu: mod6 give it a little, we'll come up with soemthing tonight/tomorrow
mod6: No rush, just wanted to put it out there. :] Thanks!
lobbes: BingoBoingo: no guarantees on canonical, but there exists some archives of it (mind the dupes): http://lobbesblog.com/queryarchive/view.php?searchterm=https%3A%2F%2Fbitcointalk.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D124441&sortby=
BingoBoingo: ty lobbes
ben_vulpes: holy shit phf the trackball you mentioned in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674958 arrived today and the action on this thing is downright sexual☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 05:12 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674891 << i've been using that one for a while, with a https://www.amazon.com/CST2545-L-Trac-Wired-Performance-Trackball/dp/B00EEFK5QQ trackball in the middle. i'm pretty happy with that setup. i've figured out how to get the firmware out of the controller, so i'm hoping to customize some of the keys (that are otherwise useless)
ben_vulpes is pleased
ben_vulpes: mouse traversal territory can now be properly and full time reserved for the engineering/tallypad
hanbot: <phf> hanbot: and another option is to use this http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/UpI9J/?raw=true vpatch, unsigned because i'd like to wait till wednesday to roll all the fixes and cuts together << produced executable, tyvm.
mircea_popescu: in other news, michael cera is like the representative of the 2010s ny hipster doofus
mircea_popescu: a sort of dj quals without the cool
mircea_popescu: i never knew dj quals was cool ; fucking sideshow of a sideshow (tom green) in a dubious mainstream teensploitation (road trip)
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER, ulterior decay exposes that yes, he was relatively cool.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-23#1785665 <- hmmm, I can see the utility of this and I can see it as something built on top of eucrypt but I'm not totally sure I see a very strong case for including it in eucrypt as such☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-23 14:52 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, what do you think diana_coman should eucrypt also include an elastic hashing algo on top of keccak and serpent ?
mircea_popescu: aite.
mircea_popescu: it's going to get built tho, he'll need a binary tree model, a merkle tree-izer, and an elastic hash-er for sure.
mircea_popescu: but maybe healthier if it's a diff lib.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/24/conscious-contact-and-other-things/ << Bingo Blog - Conscious Contact And Other Things