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a111: Logged on 2015-06-10 17:13 ascii_field: incidentally, most people are already using the worst aspects of brainwallet -and- conventional crypto
a111: 121 results for "brainwallet", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=brainwallet
asciilifeform: !#s brainwallet
fyr: just *grump* at the implication that gpg is usable enough by a non-initiate to get a brainwallet or w/e out of it in 5 minutes
ag3nt_zer0: mricea_popescu I know your response to my question is run my own node... but if I currently do not have one set up and wanted to be safe with my coins during this nonsense (i.e. take them off of coinbase & store safely), would following pete_dushenski's guide to creating an offline brainwallet utilizing 13 words arrived at through the dice method using only english dictionary be sufficient until I get an up and running trb node? B
asciilifeform: it went exactly like 'brainwallet mining' goes today
asciilifeform: plenty took 'brainwallet' to the gallows.
asciilifeform: phf: do you remember the 'brainwallet' thread ?
punkman: there's a new 8char brainwallet challenge, apparently nobody solved the last one https://keybase.io/warp/warp_1.0.8_SHA256_5111a723fe008dbf628237023e6f2de72c7953f8bb4265d5c16fc9fd79384b7a.html
asciilifeform: brainwallet is an iq test.
punkman: danielpbarron: bitcoin can never exist strictly as a physical token; there needs to be some sort of bank-like entity to put a name on it << the keys are always stored on physical tokens. unless you have a brainwallet (and the mind-reading machine has not been invented yet).
felipelalli: brainwallet uses sha256, it is a disaster
mircea_popescu: brainwallet or something
assbot: Logged on 20-09-2015 03:40:34; *: mircea_popescu foresees great cinematic drama, "the brainwallet". where guy gets shot in head, has to recoup his brainwallet.
mircea_popescu foresees great cinematic drama, "the brainwallet". where guy gets shot in head, has to recoup his brainwallet. ☟︎
asciilifeform: prolly after the first winner catching on to algo of 'cash out to btc, brainwallet'
Adlai: at least it's not a brainwallet
shinohai: I assume one must have a brain before attempting to use a brainwallet ....
assbot: Logged on 10-06-2015 17:00:38; ascii_field: mats: http://blog.jacobtorrey.com/my-minilock-concerns << i -still- insist that if your brainwallet is crackable, you are a moron
assbot: Serious: brainwallet.org shutdown and now I am wondering how to get keys back from the phrase? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1UuNbck )
asciilifeform: 'Ryan is also the author of brainflayer, a utility that attempts to find a guided brute force solution to brainwallet addresses.'
asciilifeform: ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3g7bpa/brainwallet_shut_down_permanently_due_to << re same )
punkman: also brainwallet with infinite change addresses
ascii_field: (the tx sent to brainwallet('password') etc)
ascii_field: for simple questions like 'enter brainwallet pw' this requires no heroic tech
ascii_field: (and before someone chimes in with 'so don't use brainwallet' - ~every~ wallet that you can get to, but mr schmuck can't, because you know where you buried it, etc. is in fact a 'brainwallet')
ascii_field: speaking of 'brainwallet', mircea_popescu's picture of usg prison where 'lifetime pension' is probably not long for this world.
ascii_field: brainwallet.
asciilifeform: (see recent 'brainwallet' thread)
asciilifeform: but, as ought to be clear, if your 'memory palace' is not a palace but a kolhoz full of 1,001 schmucks, don't brainwallet...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'generate addr' for instance prevents the use of the hypothetical 'brainwallet' machine discussed earlier.
mircea_popescu: the disagreement mostly stems from definitions tho. what people mean when they say "don't use brainwallets for you are stupid" mostly reduces to redditard going on brainwallet.org
mircea_popescu: "machine-empowered brainwallet"
ascii_field: my point is that everyone here is either using brainwallet in some form already (backup of your key in a postbox in japan, symmetrically encrypted with pw in your brain, and postbox # also in your brain) OR is one stint in pow camp away from 'civil death' (total loss of key)
ascii_field: and hence the location of key, and any symmetric decrypt password to it, -is- the brainwallet
ascii_field: incidentally, most people are already using the worst aspects of brainwallet -and- conventional crypto ☟︎
ascii_field: as it is, i would not trust serious coin, were i to have any, to anything other than brainwallet operated with optical keyboard connected to soviet z80.
ascii_field: mats: http://blog.jacobtorrey.com/my-minilock-concerns << i -still- insist that if your brainwallet is crackable, you are a moron ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Perhaps he doesn't trust his brain to "brainwallet" strong passwords
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: seems to me like he was of the 'brainwallet can be guessed' school of thought. i disagree. if yours can be guessed, you are either lazy or stupid
assbot: Breaking A Bitcoin Brainwallet | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1xSRxfW )
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/28/breaking-a-bitcoin-brainwallet/
kakobrekla: but anyway a simplistic approach : estimate reading time by multiplying the word count by result of brainwallet test
nubbins`: that ^ is then used as a brainwallet passphrase to get the public address 14GVvUrtrNvszwKEr9Qnqevmuy3RNHA3yF and its associated private key
nubbins`: ^ text of gpg-signed deed is used as passphrase for brainwallet, address of which is funded with pittance to prove document's existence at a particular point in time
nubbins`: http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator http://lenschulwitz.com/base58 https://brainwallet.github.io/ https://www.base64decode.org/
punkman: I dont use brainwallet, just trying to generate with diff tools
mircea_popescu: punkman incidentally, why is "brainwallet" shoehorned in there ?
punkman: brainwallet from exponent
mircea_popescu: yes, brainwallet.org thing
asciilifeform: aha brainwallet.
asciilifeform: or possibly 'brainwallet' ?
asciilifeform: brainwallet was known to be retarded for some time << brainwallet is a fully-automatic iq test.
nubbins`: anyway. does anyone know how the fuck deeds generates these brainwallet passphrases? :D
nubbins`: brainwallet.github.io
mircea_popescu: so im on the brainwallet orphan chain over here ?
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i verified w/ a brainwallet generator i wrote myself
BingoBoingo: I thought brainwallet was known to be retarded for some time
nubbins`: Duffer1 http://brainwallet.github.io
nubbins`: https://brainwallet.github.io/
nubbins`: if the deed ID is not a brainwallet passphrase, the laws of probability have broken down
nubbins`: no, i mean to tell you i put the deed ID into brainwallet.org and it spit out the associated public address
nubbins`: https://brainwallet.github.io/
mircea_popescu: why's brainwallet passphrase enter in here ?
nubbins`: because that's the private key generated from brainwallet passphrase BXZKQx2iLYyRpUCmdWCqJBvgUdvqWH4EE8TV1ns3pxLZ
nubbins`: > brainwallet passphrase > private key
nubbins`: mircea_popescu according to deeds.bitcoin-assets.com i'm supposed to end up with the brainwallet passphrase "BXZKQx2iLYyRpUCmdWCqJBvgUdvqWH4EE8TV1ns3pxLZ"
nubbins`: "how do i know brainwallet.org isn't stealing my keys?"
mike_c: i want to prove that in july i said X, but with your method I may have prepped a few brainwallet messages and now be showing you one of them.
mike_c: brainwallet method: you could prep 10 slightly different statements and pull out the most convenient one.
nubbins`: okay. so why don't i just plug the text of my deed into brainwallet.org, and send the money there?
assbot: John Ratcliff's Code Suppository: How to Play a Bitcoin BrainWallet Scavenger Game
ben_vulpes: http://codesuppository.blogspot.com/2014/04/how-to-play-bitcoin-brainwallet.html << and on the topic of scavenger hunts
RebeccaBitcoin: I'll change my brainwallet to b3cky'scoins
punkman: how come nobody has made a brainwallet for GPG yet? however stupid that would be.
bitcoinpete: we should do a brainwallet hacktest of "rand"
bitcoinpete: as used by brainwallet.org
assbot: btclittlejohn comments on PSA: brainwallet.org's "random" button uses low-entropy Math.random()
assbot: BrainWallet.org exploited and bitcoins stolen | Mineforeman
bitcoinpete: http://mineforeman.com/2014/06/27/brainwallet-org-exploited-and-bitcoins-stolen/ << a matter of time
ThickAsThieves: passphrase functionality on brainwallet.org, I used the random button to create the addresses."
ThickAsThieves: "I was an idiot and assumed that the "random" button on brainwallet.org was truly random, but it clearly is not. My coins were taken by someone who is clearly smarter than myself and this is completely my fault by creating Bitcoin addresses on a website that I assumed was safe. There's a $20k life lesson that I'll never forget, that's for sure. Also, to elaborate, I did not use the
assbot: who the fuck sent 10.8 BTC to the "correct horse battery staple" brainwallet? : Bitcoin
Naphex: dignork: lol, ms-brainwallet doesn't look right needing both keys :)
assbot: Multi-Signature Brainwallet - JavaScript Client-Side Bitcoin Address Generator
dignork: Naphex: there is also http://ms-brainwallet.org/ , but it's horribly wrong
asciilifeform: a successfully 'mined' brainwallet is... a failed iq test.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems to me like the physical hiding place approach suffers from the same problems as 'brainwallet.'
bitcoinpete: you could also have a gpg encrypted txt file with your brainwallet passphrase, meaning you'd just need brainwallet.org or bitaddress.org
dexX7: something like http://brainwallet.org/#tx where you only need to input an unsigned tx + privkey (unfortunally this does not work with brainwallet.org for whatever reason)
SatoshiJack: I will give you full details in a day or so -- we are going through the code now -- and figuring out what we have tobuild for it --- our big thing is -- how we generate address etc... I need to be able to generate like 1000 or so at a time -- and also to be able to submit transactions similar to how brainwallet.org works with blockchain.info for transaction submits...
jurov: SatoshiJack: brainwallet should work with atc out of the box, no?
SatoshiJack: mp,tat -- you guys need to get some people building around atc! I've tried contacting the Brainwallet.org devs -- but no luck getting them to show atc some love...
jborkl: why not pull a brainwallet, put it on a pi and make your wallet out of a bible verse. They are everywhere and you only have to remember what you part you put in
dexX7: yea, i'm not sure what the issue was, but brainwallet somehow had a problem with a special character in the message
dexX7: true. and especially with brainwallet.org there were significant problems
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-04-2014#604120 << dexX7 but i never got the same address from brainwallet as was actually used ☝︎
khersonus: https://github.com/brainwallet/brainwallet.github.com/blob/master/js/bitcoinsig.js#L36
ozbot: Brainwallet - JavaScript Client-Side Bitcoin Address Generator
dexX7: http://brainwallet.org/#verify for example ☟︎