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assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4000 @ 0.00637777 = 25.5111 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.651 = 1.953 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.6505 = 9.107 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 30 @ 0.65 = 19.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.649 = 1.947 BTC [-]
BingoBongo: I mean we passed the Mt Gox high, but apparently some exchange Blockchain.info follows had the high price at $35, so I've saving the cigars
Bowjob: fuck the rain
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.679 = 2.037 BTC [+]
BingoBongo: So, BFL is is Kansas City. Is Josh/Inaba Rock chalk like a Jayhawk or like General Quantrill does e see all of the common sense reasons why Lawrence should burn?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5655 @ 0.00076 = 4.2978 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.9988 = 1.9976 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 6 @ 1 = 6 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/LPmQ46C.jpg
mircea_popescu: bitcoin entrepreneur (he thinks)
Namworld: who's that?
BitHub: mircea wtf
BitHub: stop sharing my fb profile pic
BingoBongo: What happpened to his forhead?
kakobrekla: brain has to grow somewhere
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1568249#msg1568249
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00637777 = 31.8889 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: hes' the "bitmillions new" guy
Namworld: Oh, it's BitHub
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.650005 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.650005 = 4.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 22 @ 0.65000001 = 14.3 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.65 = 4.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.649 = 7.788 BTC [-]
BitHub: so this guy is an aussie scammer?
mircea_popescu: more like aussie idiot
BitHub: want me to bash him?
BitHub: i have a crew
mircea_popescu: no cause you might accidentally fix his hairline
kakobrekla: lol
BitHub: its no problem
mircea_popescu: he's bashed enough as it is
BitHub: okey
mircea_popescu: since bitcoin i've become real good at counting zeros
BitHub: i'm joking anyway i dont really do that
BingoBongo: MP, this trolling something awful deal is taking a while. In the interim could you maybe hold a contest for spotting extra chromosones on bitcointalk?
mircea_popescu: lol
Namworld: lol what
mircea_popescu: actually the trolling sa thing delivered in spades
mircea_popescu: tho i was doing most of the trolling
BingoBongo: I've recieved one of your gift certificates. I've got time now though where I am looking at the long troll. Get to the moderator control pnel and make threads disapear like thie twin towers.
Bowjob: so how many people got the ten btc trolling price
Bowjob: prize
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [-]
splnkr: i give just enough a damn about the IRC community to actually hang out; can't understand how some see it as the target for misanthropic gratification
splnkr: ther are SOOOOOOO many better targets
BingoBongo: What's a better target than SA?
splnkr: um, media?govt? fortune 500? stodgy educators?
splnkr: the list is practially endless
splnkr: scuse my spelling at this late hour
BingoBongo: Media's too easy. I've done local and regional papers a few too many times. Government trolls itself. I'm a stodgy educator... What targets are left nao?
splnkr: check yoself fool
splnkr: =)
BingoBongo: Ok, checked...
BingoBongo: I'm ready to fuck, been ready to fuck, these pants are so tight
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 219 @ 0.0065 = 1.4235 BTC [+]
mod6: HAHA WAT
splnkr: sheesh, sorry i asked
BingoBongo: So... What's the deal with that Blockchain.info mixer?
Namworld: It mixes
BingoBongo: I mean the part where it has been phasing in and out of existence these past couple days.
Namworld: oh. No idea.
BingoBongo: Is that some bullshit, or is that some bull shit?
Namworld: both?
BingoBongo: I'm kind of wondering, where's the BitBets on the first S.BBET passthrough?
Namworld: Which passthrough was the first one?
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
BingoBongo: I don't know that there is an S.BBET passthrough yet.
BingoBongo: You'd think as much as Kumala wants to monetize Virecurex and Crypto::Stocks he would race to set one up.
Namworld: There's one I manage and another on BitFunder
BingoBongo: Namworld, where's yours at?
Namworld: BTCT.co
Namworld: I find BitBet overpriced right now tho.
aiball: coinbr.com has bbet for sale
Namworld: makes 3
BingoBongo: I don't know. I find it a bit underpriced for all the bets I've bought in on that won't realize till the end of the year...
aiball: definitely a buy and hold if anything
BingoBongo: If you are calling it overpriced Namworld I might finally have to get my shit together and finally register for that MPEX dealio
Namworld: I'm calling the shares as a whole overpriced.
Namworld: 0.002 right now
Namworld: 200'000 satoshi a pop. 20 000 BTC valuation.
BingoBongo: I now, that's thy I think they are qorth quite a bit more. Especially since the initial valuation for the whole enterprise was only 100 BTC.
Namworld: They take 1% in fees. Would take 2 million BTC in bets to make a 100% dividend.
Namworld: 0.002 is 200x initial valuation
aiball: has anyone figured out the dividend for bbet this month? I might take a crack at it but just as likely might wait to see the number
BingoBongo: Details, details. There's also the house bets and idiots who bet against any sense.
Namworld: I think it was over-buyed at IPO, people panic buying.
BingoBongo: The BFL bet is going to throw everything for fruit loops
Namworld: now no one buys, no one sells. Almost.
aiball: the bets are boring
BingoBongo: Right now too many are. There is very little action on most bets.
mircea_popescu: well so make some good ones
aiball: I'm boring
aiball: how about a major us bank will deploy ripple by 2013
aiball: fuck, that's boring too
mircea_popescu: ill take the no on that.
aiball: I wanted no, but you're on if I can't think of something better in 30 minutes
aiball: 1 btc, nobody gets hurt
BingoBongo: I have tried. A critical user mass is missing
aiball: tried what
aiball: ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno about that,
mircea_popescu: the april bfl bet is alreayd over 20 btc
mircea_popescu: that's a healthy sum of change if you think about it.
mircea_popescu: scratch that, it's over 40 btc 0.0
Bowjob: how about one for avalon too to make it interesting
aiball: because none writing bets reads people magazine. I'm not going to volunteer, but I think that's what is needed here.
mircea_popescu: people magazine ?!
aiball: that's what I said.
mircea_popescu: i dun get it tho
aiball: celebrities and kittens get eyeballls.
mircea_popescu: there were a buncha oscars i recall
aiball: true
aiball: I'm heading over to people.com now. then I'll hit up oprah's site
aiball: eww
BingoBongo: Pari seems to still lack enough market makers
aiball: Is Tom trying to get custody of his daughter? maybe that's something. I can't believe I'm thinking of investigating this.
BingoBongo: Oh shit
aiball: anyone want to take a side on "Tom gets custody of Suri by the End of April? "
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 120 @ 0.25512908 = 30.6155 BTC [+]
Bowjob: I made a bet for avalon on bitbet. lets get this shit rollin
mircea_popescu: who's suri
mod6: his daughter
aiball: By the way I'm talking about Tom Cruise. Suri is his daughter. Tom Cruise just divorced his Wife Katie Holmes
aiball: I sending up a 1 btc bet, just giving you insiders a chance to pick a side and I'll take the other.
aiball: I think that would be best for Suri and the other children.
BingoBongo: I just know bit365.eu won't be around long if they keep paying so much for betting against the Astros and Marlins...
BingoBongo: Suri stays with Katie, family law isn't that fucked yet
aiball: I guess that means I'm taking yes.
BingoBongo: I might throw a bitdime on no if it posts
aiball: .1 btc?
BingoBongo: I imagine it would get too lopsided too fast for real money
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.725 = 8.625 BTC [-]
aiball: I'm asking what is a btcdime
BingoBongo: 0.1 BTC
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
mircea_popescu: there it is
Bowjob: you added more stipulatons?
Bowjob: :3
mircea_popescu: tried to make it into something
Bowjob: thats the one i submitted, right?
mircea_popescu: ya
Bowjob: prototypes lol wtf
Bowjob: inclined to vote no as a hedge
mircea_popescu: well the jgarzik stuff
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo how's lopsided ?
aiball: I voted no on avalon
aiball: I used .5 btc from Tom's basic refund.
BingoBongo: Cruise tends to lose in court
aiball: I put it up there, but didn't take a side by mistake. I'll take yes as soon as it's approved. That is unless your comment about court is some way to convince me to take no.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00072 = 0.0014 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00620001 = 1.86 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.00620001 = 1.488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1811 @ 0.0062 = 11.2282 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4687 @ 0.00610821 = 28.6292 BTC [-]
aiball: why sell s.dice right before the dividend?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.725 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: heh, 10.56 on no
mircea_popescu: avalon ppl get no credit around here huh
aiball: all from you?
mircea_popescu: mnope
Bowjob: i wanna put no, but theres no yes
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: mhm
mircea_popescu: anyway, im off. gl all
Bowjob: night
aiball: night
ThickAsThieves: just submitted a couple bet ideas
ThickAsThieves: was wondering
ThickAsThieves: would it be unacceptable to say "The next winner of Project Runway will be homosexual"?
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: well, it may be difficult to check
ThickAsThieves: nah
ThickAsThieves: so much infiltrating of these peoples lives online probly
ThickAsThieves: i suppose being flamboyant isnt proof...
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: if they say so it's one thing
mircea_popescu: if they don't tho...
pigeons: pics or gtfo
mircea_popescu: pix of what ? their dilated bunghole ?
pigeons: goatse style
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.00641 = 0.1154 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: 6-8 watts/G this is okay for asic?
Bowjob: hey mp
Chaang-Noi: from here, friedcat updated https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1571278#msg1571278
Bowjob: your bet
Bowjob: umm
mircea_popescu: hm ?
Bowjob: what do you mean by majority ships
Bowjob: because avalon 2's shipping is april 10th
mircea_popescu: jesus fuck these things are impossible aren't they.
mircea_popescu: majority of batch 1, not majority of all items they will ever produce
mircea_popescu: (and it is your bet!!1)
Bowjob: oh
Bowjob: okay then
Bowjob: Yeah
Bowjob: I will bet on Yes :P
mircea_popescu: that'll be a first.
ThickAsThieves: i wanna complain that he doesnt really give any dates or schedules, but then again, who ever really lives up to those...
mircea_popescu: well ya but still, things irl happen on some sort of timescale
Bowjob: http://i.imgur.com/KzY4tPF.jpg
ThickAsThieves: update essentially says "we're working on it, we;ll get better!"
Bowjob: "Starting from next Monday, units will be en route to their country of destination and tracking numbers will follow maybe 2~3 days after (it is at this point onward which you can expect an email from us with the tracking information), we expect this process to continue to the 10th of March until all the units have been shipped out, if all is well people will get their units in-hand in the middle of March."
ThickAsThieves: i was refering to asicminer
ThickAsThieves: nice pic, but we've seen so many boxes of fans
Bowjob: this one prints money
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.685 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Bowjob based on that text the bet is pretty relevant
Bowjob: i guess
Bowjob: its a matter of shipping..
Bowjob: which monday however
Bowjob: i havent set the bet yet :P
Bowjob: yifu said christmas came early to them
Bowjob: from winning the huge bfl bet
Bowjob: i guess they bet either 300+ or the 250 bet
Bowjob: prolly the 300+
mircea_popescu: coolness.
mircea_popescu: wait, wasn't newyears just last week ?
Bowjob: umm month, but he's referring to this years xmas
mircea_popescu: :p
ThickAsThieves: &ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.08001, Best ask: 34.17002, Bid-ask spread: 0.09001, Last trade: 34.08001, 24 hour volume: 71974.65510805, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 33.23048
Bowjob: if this rally continues, I'll be able to afford a nice house at the end of the year
Bowjob: then after that perhaps go back to school..
mircea_popescu: lol cool
Bowjob: my priorities are backwards.. usually people go to school first
Bowjob: ..
Bowjob: lol
Zillion: mircea has the BFL March 1st bet paid out?
kakobrekla: tecnical difficulites
kakobrekla: technical*/
kakobrekla: fuckin fucked fuck keyboad.
kakobrekla: rd
blu3gr1ffon: Zillion: I haven't seen my bet in my wallet yet
Diablo-D3: spacex is going to launch the dragon again at 10:10AM EST http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html
blu3gr1ffon: not sure how long it takes.
blu3gr1ffon: if we are talking about the the bitbet.us one.
mircea_popescu: Zillion not yet. will be paid out presently.
blu3gr1ffon: mircea_popescu: thanks!
Zillion: blu3gr1ffon ok thanks just curious...usually they are fast but this one is big
mircea_popescu: np np
Zillion: cool mircea
blu3gr1ffon: anyone getting in on the BTC/USD at Mt.Gox will hit $35 in March 2013 bet?
mircea_popescu: im sure some people are
blu3gr1ffon: i wonder why not more.
blu3gr1ffon: so close already
mircea_popescu: ya srslty.
Bugpowder: Spacexxxxx
Bugpowder: Big day
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D-CA) claimed today that "over 170 million jobs" could be lost due to sequestration. "
mircea_popescu: why are these people even in congress ?
mircea_popescu: they're basically as dumb as reddit.
ThickAsThieves: coinlab's Buy $1M buttons are back
mircea_popescu: im sure that makes all the difference :D
splnkr: maxine waters might say extreme stuff sometimes but she's no fool
splnkr: she's among the best Congress has to offer
splnkr: she was the one to bring allegations of CIA crack cocaine trafficking to light in DC
splnkr: that's a pretty big deal in my book
mircea_popescu: splnkr that's my point
mircea_popescu: she's among the best congress has to offer and that's what she says
pigeons: yawn
mircea_popescu: does not compute
mircea_popescu: pigeons spam detracted
splnkr: in politics, sometimes you hyperbolize to make a point
splnkr: that's what you do when you're not lying
pigeons: spam retracted
mircea_popescu: splnkr ya well, here's the deal : if there actually existed 170mn jobs in the us it wouldn't be in the crapper would it
splnkr: sometimes you take an extreme position to reach a better compromise
splnkr: it's called negotiation
splnkr: but i do see your point in this particular case
splnkr: she maybe meant to say 176K
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.00641 = 12.82 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: yeah.
splnkr: however I think a lot of us often react to what people say when they're taking extreme positions for negotiation purposes
splnkr: for example an apt. complex i was advising decided to build their own cogen plant because the electricity service was threatening much higher rates
splnkr: well, now the electricity service backpedaled and is offering a continuation at the same rate
splnkr: but the apt managers were too dumb to realize they were just bandstanding
splnkr: now i wonder how this affects BTC speculation =P
pigeons: lieing and misleading sucks. even though lying and misleading is expected of politicians, it still sucks, and because of their position, perhaps sucks more
splnkr: well, maybe, or maybe it's that people suck, and force politicians to lie.
pigeons: people suck so im forced to kill and steal
pigeons: dont blame the poor politicians
splnkr: whoa whoa the killing and stealing are another issue altogether
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 9 @ 0.38 = 3.42 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.39 = 1.95 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 5 @ 0.395 = 1.975 BTC [+]
splnkr: look, if you view a type of person as completely inhuman and one-dimensional so you can scapegoat them, you're never going to really understand why they are the way they are
splnkr: i had the experience of running for an elected office once and it totally changed my perspective
mircea_popescu: <pigeons> lieing and misleading sucks. even though lying and misleading is expected of politicians, it still sucks, and because of their position, perhaps sucks more <<< this. nonspam detected.
mircea_popescu: just make your motherfucking point, that's what a congress is for.
mircea_popescu: it's not a set of survivor or w/e
splnkr: so for example, sometimes what looks like stupidity from the outside is really willful ignorance
mircea_popescu: but it's always easier to self aggrandize and hyperbolize than make points
mircea_popescu: that's why the internet is so fulla hyperbolae
splnkr: well the irony here is that story about maxine waters misquoting a number probably got more exposure than the story about her exposing the CIA-crack connection in the 90's
pigeons: im suprised you lost, you are a politician, now its "misquoting"
mircea_popescu: i guess this teaches the importance of not fudging numbers.
mircea_popescu: i certainly dislike people that do that more than people that do coke.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 700 @ 0.00641 = 4.487 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.73 = 3.46 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.685 = 1.37 BTC [-]
splnkr: pigeons: i'm not trying to defend politicians, but explain them
splnkr: i have less than zero time for their BS
splnkr: they are leading the way to 100 years ago
splnkr: it's a joke and i don't care to stick around for the punchline
splnkr: to be constantly wrapped up in their misdeeds is paralyzing
splnkr: i'd rather just ignore and proceed =)
mircea_popescu: nice that you found btc then
splnkr: yeah i guess if you're going to jump down a rabbit hole it might as well be the one with the most potential to lead somewhere better
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.63899 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.01 = 0.2 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu ; I summon thee from da depths.
Zillion: Still no love on that bet here mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: Zillion dun' worry, it'll be paid before bfl ships :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.63899 = 2.556 BTC [-]
Zillion: LOL yeah but I am not the tycoon as you and need my measly coins
thestringpuller: BFL did not ship. Confirmed?
mircea_popescu: cooonfirmed
Zillion: checking one sec
mircea_popescu: Zillion srsly, we ran into some sendmany hairs, working at it, it will not be long.
Zillion: np just wanting to be sure no wallet problems is all really
mircea_popescu: you can be sure of that.
Zillion: thank ya sir...sorry, patience never been a strong suit for me
mircea_popescu: np np
mjr__: i think it would be awesome if we could lend our shares out on mpex...with an escrow feature of some sort
Zillion: why would you do that?
Zillion: very new to all this if that is a dumb question
mjr__: so others could short
mircea_popescu: mjr_ and why can' you ?!
mjr__: and i could have my shares which are just sitting there earn extra income
ThickAsThieves: while ive never used btcjam, i like how the integrated using btct assets as collateral
mjr__: you COULD, but there is no escrow
Zillion: i see what you mean\
thestringpuller: jurov: why do you expect that?
ThickAsThieves: they*
mjr__: risk averse
jurov: thestringpuller, cause mp mentioned sendmany hairs
thestringpuller: sendmany hairs?
thestringpuller: mjr__: smickles is working on something for that purpose I thik
thestringpuller: think*
jurov: mjr__, shorting is by definition incompatible with simple escrow
mjr__: mircea_popescu: I would rather have my shares in a pool for lending with the understanding that the guy has to have assets to back it up. Similar to bitfinex's system
mircea_popescu: mjr_ you can find an escrow you trust, push to them.
mjr__: but instead of BTC or USD, S.DICE and S.MPOE
mircea_popescu: unlike the bitfinex system w./e that is, you actually have signed receipts to prove this on mpex.
mircea_popescu: what's the impediment ?
mjr__: yes true
mircea_popescu: im sure any of the pt ops would do this, for instance.
mircea_popescu: possibly for a fee tho
mircea_popescu: lol jurov
jurov: i understood mjr__ looks for a broker he'll just push the shares to and broker does the legwork
mircea_popescu: this may be a decent line of business
mircea_popescu: at least it is irl
mircea_popescu: locating shortable blocks
thestringpuller: jurov you should add a shorting pool
thestringpuller: set up some interest rates, you already have one donor :P
mjr__: i meant a more automated system, yes Jurov and collects a portion of the interest or fees i generate
mircea_popescu: there's no reason it can't be automated, for sure.
mjr__: ie. i can just leave my shares in that pool, but i specificy that my term will expire before dividends
mircea_popescu: actually iirc topace was working on some automation for crediting pushes to his PT
mjr__: even better win, if they win the bet, i can double down
mircea_popescu: this probably can be reused
mjr__: true
mjr__: my whole point is that i want to increase my long position, but i don't want to buy at market, so if people want to sell at market, and then have to cover, i can buy back my own shares
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00075632 = 1.6639 BTC [+]
mjr__: if they are right and the short position works, i can increase my position for cheaper, if they are wrong, i get my original shares back anyway, and still rely on dividends
jurov: i'd prefer to run it closed with fixed interest, without dosclosing when i or someone other shorted and how much.
mjr__: exactly, i don't care who they are, i would rather trust mpex or coinbr than an individual person, provided that there is an autoclose out feature and there account is liquid enough to be able to buy back
jurov: transparency leads to somilar things like MPBPT investors bitching that i endangered their investment by setting the rate too high, lol
mjr__: some risk monitoring system
jurov: lmao maybe i can adapt bitcoinica code
mircea_popescu: lol listen
mircea_popescu: paying a fixed fee per week makes sense
mircea_popescu: 0.1% or w/e
mircea_popescu: and dividends pass through to original owner
jurov: yes that side is clear... but on the other side, maybe i can lend out to coinbr users where i can force liquidate them (hence bitcoinica reference)
mircea_popescu: :p
pigeons: i dont mind being force liquidated as long as you give it a cute nickname like "starfished" or "juroved"
mircea_popescu: anyway, certainly a valid development direction, this.
mircea_popescu: juroved works.
mircea_popescu: like brejnev'd except worse
mjr__: yes exactly, i don't want to rely on trusting them to return shares and be solvent
mjr__: if their account approaches insolvency they should get a margin call
mjr__: and if it reaches the point where they would be insolvent, they should be autoliquidated
jurov: okay, will plan it. but that even increases the risk of orders mismatch... mircea, how far are you with full tracking? did you determine it can be done?
jurov: who isn't following this - the "track" feature works basically only on half of transactions
jurov: the other half shows digest of other user's order
mircea_popescu: are these connected somehow ?
Anduckk: yay
Anduckk: bitbet payment recvd
jurov: if i mismatch leveraged orders the mess will be bigger
jurov: brb
mircea_popescu: Zillion there you go.
mircea_popescu: sorry for the delay everyone. bitcoind is not yet exactly mature, needs a little expert oiling
mjr__: ah, good idea too, if you were to allow me to lend my btc out for margin on people it could work in the same system...but again, need very robust risk controls
Zillion: thats a BTC short for me???
mircea_popescu: it is ?!
Zillion: yes sir
mircea_popescu: which line we talking about ?
Zillion: weight 37`870
Zillion: 2 btc
Zillion: you sent me 1.99
Zillion: 1.98876913
mircea_popescu: um looking into this
Zillion: thank you
mircea_popescu: you mean 21-02-13 19:54 No 357 2.00000000 19PN8 1.98876913 1Bye9 ?
Zillion: holy crap you are so right sir
Zillion: how did i screw that up
Zillion: sorry man
mircea_popescu: jurov : http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57549707/fead082c83a0625eb8cc22452b7f213d7be041e29a7d2c203e704b01ec6bb04b
mircea_popescu: check that out, 3.5kb tx :D
mircea_popescu: Zillion np np
Zillion: nothing like whining just to find out your wrong and last money :)
mircea_popescu: gotta be careful with the weights
mircea_popescu: becauyse site rtakes 1%
Zillion: i was up too late
mircea_popescu: so if odds are even and weight under 1k (out of the orig 100k) you may end up -
Zillion: i know the deal sir
mircea_popescu: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/57549811/c6258eff0639d758015ed5dcdd8a1f1dcf7580ac833d52336b6ec4469f9281b5 and a 2.8kb tx with 0 fees ahaha
mircea_popescu: this bitbet stuff is informative.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 500 @ 0.01 = 5 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/the-grid/bitcoin-virtual-currency-legitimacy-online-retailers
mjr__: i am curious if you could use blockchain analysis to get an accurate NPV of S.DICE dividends
mjr__: at the very least gross profit
mircea_popescu: people already do on the forum no ?
blu3gr1ffon: Zillion: I got my bitbet return
mjr__: haven't seen that yet
mircea_popescu: dooglus' stuff, no ?
jurov: maybe the default end weight should be 1000 to account for this
jurov: not 1
mircea_popescu: jurov what about a bet like http://bitbet.us/bet/2/s-mpoe-will-crash-this-spring/
mircea_popescu: that's 100:1. end weight of even 11 makes you money.
jurov: mhm
blu3gr1ffon: so these bets with, so and so will happen by 4/1/2013, are they over if that something happpens on 3/5/3013?
blu3gr1ffon: or do they just sit there until the end to pay out?
mjr__: do you do underwriting mircea?
mjr__: at this point i mean
mjr__: or do you just list
mjr__: i wanna get into the private equity game lol
thestringpuller: !ticker S.MPOE
assbot: How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
thestringpuller: !ticker m S.MPOE
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0007147 / 0.00075259 / 0.00076 (207052 shares, 155.83 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069755 / 0.00078 (17890704 shares, 12,479.69 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067287 / 0.00078 (67719739 shares, 45,566.99 BTC)
ThickAsThieves: horsemeat found in tacobell
ThickAsThieves: heh
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: how bout this guy?
Guest31034: !ticker h sdice
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.64000000 / 0.65926621 / 0.68950000 (139 shares, 91.63800308 BTC), 7D: 0.60000000 / 0.65115724 / 0.69400000 (1192 shares, 776.17942766 BTC), 30D: 0.52100000 / 0.66313431 / 0.89000000 (11178 shares, 7412.51528089 BTC)
thestringpuller: http://bitbet.us/bet/153/s-mpoe-will-rise-this-spring/
mircea_popescu: that doesn't seem to get as much love for some reason
thestringpuller: it
pigeons: i would think horsemeat would cost more than cornfed cow meat
mircea_popescu: mjr__ i do a mix of both
thestringpuller: 's too much of a futures bet
thestringpuller: June is a far away mr. popescu
mircea_popescu: blu3gr1f1on in general they're over
mircea_popescu: depends on the exact circumstances tho
Chaang-Noi: horse meat is cheap if it comes from a horse no one wants
thestringpuller: mircea, how do I find that article you wrote on the bonds
pigeons: mmm satoshi's daemon
Chaang-Noi: race horses are dog food
ThickAsThieves: meateater problems
pigeons: not a problem
ThickAsThieves: not in any meangingful sense, no it isnt
ThickAsThieves: but sure has a lot of people chatting
Chaang-Noi: i like horse
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller which one ?
mjr__: what i don't understand is that they eat horse meat when it's labeled horse
mjr__: i really wouldn't care if i found out i ate pork when i thought it was only beef
mjr__: big deal
thestringpuller: if within a few weeks’ time you find yourself in the position of having to decide whether a few million dollars go to a. free drinks and garter inserts at a number of strip clubs or to b. coinbase “second round of funding”, the correct business decision is certainly a. At least the strippers can actually provide an answer should anyone happen to ask “what the fuck are you doing”. <<< I think many VC's w
ThickAsThieves: in the US, mostly the only meat-switching news you hear about is with fish
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I found the one I was looking for.
ThickAsThieves: cheap fish being sold as expensive fish in restaurants
mircea_popescu: a kk
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I was looking for http://trilema.com/2012/mpoe-bonds-historical-data/ btw
Anduckk: mircea_popescu is the string puller!!!
Anduckk: now i know everything
Anduckk: (btw thats is actually true)
Anduckk: gz on ur success
mircea_popescu: um wut
thestringpuller: ;;calc 344 + 364 + 6074 + -632
gribble: 6150
thestringpuller: MPBOR is in the overall green
thestringpuller: nominal green* congrats mr. popescu!
thestringpuller: it's like the pirate month never happened...
mircea_popescu: yeh
mircea_popescu: cool
mircea_popescu: jurov here's the rand you promised http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoind-not-quite-ready-for-prime-time/
mircea_popescu: i started off trying to be nice but by the end i was thoroughly pissed off so.
gribble: 1 BTC = 34.25001 U.S. dollars = 26.2693741 Euros
Diablo-D3: fucking xchat
BitHub: hey now
mjr__: so you underwrite and marketmake?
mjr__: mircea
jcpham: EskimoBob tell me about the things that make you angry
jcpham: i figured you were angry about something
jcpham: you normally seem angry
jcpham: I imagine you having steam coming from your ears
mircea_popescu: mjr__ to some degree. the way it practically works is mostly by putting min bids in during ipos
jcpham: like a cartoon
jcpham: i really do
mircea_popescu: nothing much came of it in the case of bitbet for instance, it took off way
blu3gr1ffon: is g.bbet on bitfunder bitbet.us?
BitHub: yes
blu3gr1ffon: BitHub: danke
BitHub: no problem
topace: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00610821 / 0.00633093 / 0.00637777 (46523 shares, 294.53 BTC), 7D: 0.00572194 / 0.00621997 / 0.00638999 (320933 shares, 1,996.19 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00602873 / 0.007395 (6844333 shares, 41,262.64 BTC)
topace: !ticker h sdice
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.64000000 / 0.65926621 / 0.68950000 (139 shares, 91.63800308 BTC), 7D: 0.60000000 / 0.65115724 / 0.69400000 (1192 shares, 776.17942766 BTC), 30D: 0.52100000 / 0.66313431 / 0.89000000 (11178 shares, 7412.51528089 BTC)
BitHub: blu3gr1ffon - https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.BBET
gribble: 1 BTC = 34.49900 U.S. dollars = 26.4603467 Euros
blu3gr1ffon: any hope for ziggap?
mircea_popescu: who are those ?
BitHub: ziggap are on bitfunder as well
blu3gr1ffon: they are, newly so. anybody used the service?
mircea_popescu: "Anonymous
mircea_popescu: I am done using this site. When you place a bet with a professional you want to be paid when the bet has resolved. Not when someone is good and ready to pay you. Mircea Popescu is a no better than any scammer before him."
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: wtf is wrong with people srsly!
ThickAsThieves: PAY ME NAO
BitHub: yes blue i have
BitHub: its a place to buy bitcoins from
BitHub: they do a few countries
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ok but i mean... today is still the 1st wtf.
ThickAsThieves: for realz
mircea_popescu: banks regularly hold payments 2-3 days, what about that.
blu3gr1ffon: i guess people expect the perks of bitcoin to apply to bitbet
ThickAsThieves: guaranteed that person will bet agai
ThickAsThieves: n
mircea_popescu: stuff has to be checked, for one, it's not exactly pennies we're dealing here. stuff breaks half the time, as it was indeed the case this time. new code and all that.
blu3gr1ffon: he will
mircea_popescu: gotta give scammers like mircea_popescu some slack eh.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves yea prolly.
ThickAsThieves: he probly had some other bet or debt he needed to fill
mircea_popescu: i guess if you sit there and mash the f5 there's little difference between an hour and all eternity
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybe bad experiences.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.68 = 2.04 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: who's the sack of shit now?
ThickAsThieves: ugh why did i ask...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.685 = 6.165 BTC [+]
gribble: 1 BTC = 34.49489 U.S. dollars = 26.4571944 Euros
ThickAsThieves: aww you guys didnt like my TV bets?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00637776 = 31.8888 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 38 @ 0.64500001 = 24.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.645 = 6.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.635 = 1.27 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.49501, Best ask: 34.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00499, Last trade: 34.50000, 24 hour volume: 63944.06343327, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.51541, 24 hour vwap: 33.24964
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1689.81 * 33.25
gribble: 56186.1825
mircea_popescu: bitbet is like vegas nao
ThickAsThieves: you can get hooker sthere?
ThickAsThieves: or what?
ThickAsThieves: i see my bet
ThickAsThieves: you were this close to a scammer tag
ThickAsThieves: i like the Survivor bet better though
mircea_popescu: https://blockchain.info/tx/36d2d306bf3798b9e3730239f58095cd7baeea5963cb9bcc736b6aa20b0b90c5?show_adv=true
mircea_popescu: 15kb tx, no fee
mircea_popescu: this is afaik the record
ThickAsThieves: you get the btc-pincher award
mircea_popescu: oldest coinbase award moar like it
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.60000, Best ask: 34.83988, Bid-ask spread: 0.23988, Last trade: 34.83990, 24 hour volume: 65618.15625339, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.28810
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.60000, Best ask: 34.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 34.83990, 24 hour volume: 65618.15625339, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.28810
ThickAsThieves: oops
ThickAsThieves: the ;; is def easier than the & sadly
Chaang-Noi: echo:)
ThickAsThieves: Isn't Google Glass already scheduled to ship in 2013?
ThickAsThieves: which was accelerated from when they said 2014 last year
ThickAsThieves: btw it's called Google Glass
ThickAsThieves: not Google Glasses
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00075999 = 3.04 BTC [+]
error4733: TAKE MY MONEY !!
error4733: google glass ftw
mjr__: yeah i need google glass
mjr__: the new video was awesome
mjr__: and i saw a picture of sergey brin on the subway in nyc wearing them
ThickAsThieves: from the looks of their promo photos, you have to look pretty hip to own a pair
Chaang-Noi: bulllls on parade!
mjr__: strong move
mjr__: !!!
mjr__: here comes 35
mjr__: no one ever went broke taking profits...sell sell sell
Chaang-Noi: i sold a bit today
mircea_popescu: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-01/consumer-spending-in-u-s-climbs-even-as-taxes-hurt-incomes.html
mircea_popescu: "Consumer spending in the U.S. rose in January even as incomes dropped by the most in 20 years, showing households were weathering the payroll-tax increase by socking away less money in the bank."
mircea_popescu: these people were already not saving enough.
mjr__: i was saying that as i kept my finger on the buy button, following goldman sach's modus operandi...tell people to do the exact opposite of what you plan on doing, and have them pay you for the "service"
mircea_popescu: the vote is in : the us public does not care whether the us ends.
mjr__: yes, but it is the system that makes savers into suckers
mjr__: i honestly think it may even be a partly subconscious effect whereby without concsciously realizing it, you know that saving is stupid when the value goes down so rapidly
mjr__: QE infinity and beyond
mircea_popescu: right.
Chaang-Noi: mp. america is fucked
ThickAsThieves: americans are so ignorant and detached from the political and financial world it isnt funny
Chaang-Noi: they have no clue
ThickAsThieves: i can have an intelligent conversation with maybe 5% of the people i come across
Chaang-Noi: their parents or grandparents made all the money, now everyone has credit
mircea_popescu: actually seeing how the expenditure is in large part houses,
mircea_popescu: it's pretty smart. buy a house today for 100k of debt, wait for obama to make 100k = 1 pizza
mircea_popescu: then pay back, get free house.
mjr__: i like that plan
mjr__: but that is the point
ThickAsThieves: they even messed up real estate as investment for the middle and lower class
mjr__: debt is good
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that's not limited to the us you know
mjr__: and they want eveeryone in as much debt as possible
ThickAsThieves: i dont know really :)
ThickAsThieves: i try to be worldly
ThickAsThieves: but i know i'm not
ThickAsThieves: i follow BBC and some Al Jazeera news
ThickAsThieves: but not much more than that
ThickAsThieves: and even that is WAY more than most people i know
mircea_popescu: i could carry on an intelligent conversation with maybe 5% of the egyptians in either cairo or luxor
mircea_popescu: turks in istanbul
mircea_popescu: russians in sevastopol
mircea_popescu: you name it
ThickAsThieves: i dont really understand why so many people dont want to think for themselves
ThickAsThieves: dont
mircea_popescu: the jools of twitter :
mircea_popescu: @MarkCalabria
mircea_popescu: Will be moderating panel here at Cato, March 13. Would a Financial Transaction Tax Affect Financial Market Activity? http://www.cato.org/events
mircea_popescu: @MarkCalabria Only in the sense that finance will move to Bitcoin faster.
mircea_popescu: @Mircea_Popescu Does the EU transaction tax proposal apply to Bitcoin transactions?
mircea_popescu: @MarkCalabria No, Bitcoin is structurally immune to imposed taxation.
mircea_popescu: le win.
ThickAsThieves: nice
error4733: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.53318, Best ask: 34.79987, Bid-ask spread: 0.26669, Last trade: 34.80000, 24 hour volume: 67402.19246156, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.33373
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136209288816.jpg did i mention i love those pants ?
ThickAsThieves: is that horse or cow leather?
mircea_popescu: it's prolly mare leather substituted for heifer.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.68499999 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: scams
ThickAsThieves: this coinlab ticker,
ThickAsThieves: shows negative time since
ThickAsThieves: someitmes
ThickAsThieves: they are time travelers
ThickAsThieves: -11s ago
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00075632 = 5.143 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4927 @ 0.00075542 = 3.722 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5478 @ 0.00075 = 4.1085 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: Spiers, responding to a question about whether he regretted Groupon going public with "I feel like the only reason you could be asking me that question is because you think I’m stupid or because you’re trying to see if I’m going to lie to you."
blu3gr1ffon: speaking of pants: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l3nCqOWua4
mircea_popescu: lol
ThickAsThieves: http://www.fastcompany.com/3006439/where-are-they-now/exclusive-andrew-masons-last-interview-groupon-ceo
mircea_popescu: he blew his plural. reasonS.
mircea_popescu: and for the record i totally called this on trilema, when they ipod
ThickAsThieves: i had every client asking me about groupon for a while
ThickAsThieves: i was like NO
ThickAsThieves: are you dumb?!
mircea_popescu: investing, heh.
ThickAsThieves: oh, i meant as an mktg solution
mircea_popescu: "We sat in the dining room at Madera, a Michelin 1-star rated restaurant in the Rosewood, a luxury hotel that’s partly owned by Stanford University."
mircea_popescu: lol 1 star better than no star!
mircea_popescu: why do us restaurants suck so bad.
ThickAsThieves: i think michelin stars work diff than hotel ratings
ThickAsThieves: i dont think you can get 5
ThickAsThieves: up to 3
mircea_popescu: yes.
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.75002, Best ask: 34.81892, Bid-ask spread: 0.06890, Last trade: 34.81895, 24 hour volume: 68172.45866000, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.83990, 24 hour vwap: 33.35396
mircea_popescu: He softened a bit. “I think in the first phase of our company, we were a glorified mailing list. We had a completely unintelligent email that we sent out once a day and we had a human sales force that was going around and procuring the deals... "
mircea_popescu: ahahaha o god.
mircea_popescu: why don't they say this sort of shit in autumn 2011 ?
mircea_popescu: why do they wait for it to be 2013 and everyone be pissed off ?
mircea_popescu: this is what so called CEOs should learn from me, seriously. say it dude.
jcpham: what is the lesson, i'm listening
mircea_popescu: say nigger. tell people to fuck off. say your company sucks and is a glorified mailing list. say whatever the hell is the case.
mircea_popescu: no matter how apparently impolite, impolitical, inappropriate or whatever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: just say it.
jcpham: i'm a big proponent of telling the truth
mircea_popescu: truth has nothing to do with it.
blu3gr1ffon: if you have shareholders, it is illegal to do anything that would lower the price of your company
ThickAsThieves: any company that is largely a sales team sucks
mircea_popescu: blu3gr1f1on fuck that.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves coca cola is largely a sales team.
mircea_popescu: it can be done, marginally.
Chaang-Noi: new ATH
ThickAsThieves: exception to prove the rule?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu believes in falsifying histroy
thestringpuller: history*
mircea_popescu: i do "?
thestringpuller: How much of the full story does anyone person know?
mircea_popescu: that's exactly the motherfucking point.
mircea_popescu: say it. it doesn't have to be "the truth"
mircea_popescu: it just has to be what you see.
thestringpuller: Or what you want everyone else to see.
mircea_popescu: that only sets you up for the unpleasant situation of this guy
mircea_popescu: http://www.fastcompany.com/3006439/where-are-they-now/exclusive-andrew-masons-last-interview-groupon-ceo
jcpham: sorry i was distracted by imgur and now I'm watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtS2Ikk7A9I
mircea_popescu: you're better off ignoring what people want entirely.
jcpham: what were we talking about
mircea_popescu: jcpham buttseks
jcpham: i do not like this topic
thestringpuller: aha! thats why the bot shorted them. Poor guy.
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.81100, Best ask: 34.86999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05899, Last trade: 34.81100, 24 hour volume: 68642.46395107, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.89000, 24 hour vwap: 33.36688
jcpham: wtf is a groupon anyways
mircea_popescu: a glorified mailing list. literally.
Diablo-D3: jcpham: seriously?
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: no
jcpham: didn't they go out of business
ThickAsThieves: lol at this video
Diablo-D3: its basically a volume discount
jcpham: well i do not shop so idgaf
Diablo-D3: a lot of people collectively take up a discount
Diablo-D3: jcpham: not just items, services too
jcpham: broup buy coupons
jcpham: i get it
Diablo-D3: a lot of companies pulled out of groupon and refuses to honor groupon deals because groupon wouldn't set limits and shit
jcpham: i see
Diablo-D3: group on also had pretty fucked up internal financials
jcpham: groupon promotes consumerism
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 which is a polite way of saying they cooked the books for the ipo
jcpham: i'm violently anti-consumer
pigeons: it has a high carbon footprint
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: basically
Diablo-D3: jcpham: consumerism isn't bad inherently
Diablo-D3: jcpham: like, I'll buy mass produced products…. they just have to be high quality ones
jcpham: when people band together in facebook hoardes to groupon their rent money?
Diablo-D3: like I just bought a $99 9" frying pan
jcpham: why the fuck would you pay 100$ for a pan
Diablo-D3: its an all copper frying pan with a thin layer of 18/10 stainless steel for the cooking surface
jcpham: i barely eat let alone spend money on retarded kitchen goods
Diablo-D3: they normally go for $200+
pigeons: a good pre-seasoned cast-iron skillet?
Diablo-D3: I took advantage of a pricing error
Diablo-D3: pigeons: a good one of those is $20 =P
Diablo-D3: fuck yeah lodge
jcpham: pigeons that's a hand me down
Diablo-D3: can't beat lodge cast iron
Diablo-D3: jcpham: its like this
pigeons: yeah that's what i have ;>
jcpham: grandma hooked us up with the cast iron
Diablo-D3: Im going to own one frying pan the rest of my life thats not cast iron
Diablo-D3: so why not buy the best?
mircea_popescu: pigeons i have some cast iron stuff. the problem with it is the womenz can barely lift the stuff. some sauces require lifting the pot with one hand while stirring with the other
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, I wouldn't use cast iron for sauces
jcpham: i'm just poking at you Diablo-D3, if you want to spend money on copper pans and mine bitcoins on Nvidia
Diablo-D3: you use it for meats
pigeons: need stronger womerns
jcpham: be my guest
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: get a 18/10 stainless pot
Diablo-D3: they're light and inexpensive
mircea_popescu: pigeons you fuck 24 inch bicep amazon pikewomen k ?
Diablo-D3: you can get one for like $50-75 depending on what size
jcpham: ;;google pikewoman
gribble: Pepper Pike woman driving force behind Arts Summit in Cleveland ...: <http://www.cleveland.com/chagrinsolonsun/index.ssf/2011/05/pepper_pike_woman_driving_forc.html>; Pepper Pike woman overcomes multiple sclerosis and publishes ...: <http://www.cleveland.com/chagrinsolonsun/index.ssf/2011/04/pepper_pike_woman_overcomes_mu.html>; Northern Pike - Woman River Camp: (1 more message)
Chaang-Noi: you guys know too much about cooking stuff
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.89769, Best ask: 34.89989, Bid-ask spread: 0.00220, Last trade: 34.89990, 24 hour volume: 68050.93419775, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.89990, 24 hour vwap: 33.36805
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: cooking is a man's art
pigeons: not pikewomen, just healthy
thestringpuller: to 42
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 often enough you make the sauce in the same skillet you cooked the meat for juice economy.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: it depends on the sauce
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00637776 = 0.6378 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ofcourse
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: like, I don't ike putting tomatoes in a cast iron pan
mircea_popescu: no acids.
Diablo-D3: or other acidic foods
Diablo-D3: but a white sauce or gravy? thats fine
jcpham: i can honestly say I'm never experienced the word juice followed by the word economy
mircea_popescu: exactly.
jcpham: i think i should take a nap or bleed out or something
mircea_popescu: jcpham you never lived having to save your juice to satisfy many hungry mouths either.
Diablo-D3: jcpham: he basically said "gravy without getting another pan dirty"
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: HAH
mircea_popescu: good one huh.
Diablo-D3: I laughed out loud, Im a bad person. No wait, that other thing, Im awesome.
jcpham: i can't wait to drop "juice economy" on someone
jcpham: when they least expect it
mircea_popescu: then make them pay you bitcoin dust for it.
Diablo-D3: but yeah, I wouldn't have paid $200 for this
Diablo-D3: infact, I didn't even want to pay $100
mircea_popescu: 7 bitcoin, who cares.
Diablo-D3: I was aiming for the $50s
Diablo-D3: but when something like that comes up
Diablo-D3: you snag it
Chaang-Noi: $100 for a pan?
Chaang-Noi: why it is good again?
Chaang-Noi: other than not being cast iron?
mircea_popescu: copper is good cause very conductive
mircea_popescu: medical steel coating cause resistant and healthy
mircea_popescu: (unlike teflon and crap)
Chaang-Noi: what do they make woks out of?
mircea_popescu: bronze i thinl
Chaang-Noi: i think i have a few of them
Diablo-D3: woks are often cast iron or annonized steel
Chaang-Noi: bronze good or bad?
mircea_popescu: lol inb4 new wok selling bitcoin business
Diablo-D3: bronze is fine, although you usually don't see it anymore
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 i think he's in asia neh ?
Diablo-D3: stainless steel is the best for the surface though
Chaang-Noi: im pretty sure they are mostly steel that we have
Diablo-D3: you can get pans that are pure 18/10 stainless, and they're good
Diablo-D3: copper bottoms are better
Chaang-Noi: fuck, im going to go check.. iv not been in the kitchen for months and im going in to see pots...
Diablo-D3: almost pure copper is 1%er kind of shit
Diablo-D3: there are pro chefs that don't use shit like this
Diablo-D3: Im like this
Diablo-D3: Im too poor to buy cheap shit
Diablo-D3: nanotube knows what Im talking about
Chaang-Noi: i think the stuff we ahve is mostly steel
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: 18/10 steel is what a lot of people have
Chaang-Noi: why is steel bad again?
Diablo-D3: like, commercial grade shit is usually pure 18/10 or aluminum/18/10 bonded
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: its not
Chaang-Noi: okay
Diablo-D3: the best cooking surface you can get is 18/10 stainless
Diablo-D3: its not the best _conductor_ though
Chaang-Noi: i see
Diablo-D3: thats why a lot of high grade 18/10 stainless pans have a copper layer inside
Diablo-D3: the only thing better is as much copper as possible with a thin layer of 18/10 as the cooking surface
Chaang-Noi: i dont think im picky enough id notice the differance
Diablo-D3: how often do you cook?
Chaang-Noi: cook?
Diablo-D3: unless you cook every single day and do hardcore shit, you'd never see it
mircea_popescu: omfg what is with the difficulty ?!
mircea_popescu: am i seeing this right, we're getting a downtrend retarget ?!
Chaang-Noi: if i cant go out of have some one cook for me i will eat bread from the bag and beer...
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: gpis are being powered down
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: its the calm before the storm
Chaang-Noi: of = or
mircea_popescu: omfg this is insanity
Diablo-D3: Chaang-Noi: yeah see, Im rejecting most pre made foods
Namworld: I guess a lot of the 25 terahash of GPUs are being removed
Chaang-Noi: so do i
Diablo-D3: Im doing it Real Man (™) style
Diablo-D3: holy shit
Chaang-Noi: we grow much of what we eat
Diablo-D3: osx can automatically spellcheck that
Chaang-Noi: and get local the rest, in the market
Chaang-Noi: but i neer cook it
Chaang-Noi: never
Diablo-D3: huh, why not?
mircea_popescu: why not ?
Chaang-Noi: i dont know, i never have. also spending more than 10 mins trying to get a meal is a waste of time
Chaang-Noi: my wife will spend 2 hours on a meal some times... fucking insane
mircea_popescu: its an artform
mircea_popescu: i hear you say that im thinking "this is like saying spending more than 2 minutes to get laid is a waste of time"
Chaang-Noi: who spends more than 2 hours to get laid?
Chaang-Noi: you know i live in thailand right?
mircea_popescu: i don't think i spent two hours actually cooking yet tho
mircea_popescu: i don't mean the part between meeting the girl and getting her naked.
mircea_popescu: i mean the part between her being naked and you being done
Chaang-Noi: oh, i do BBQ, but i dont really count that as cooking
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: 2 minutes getting laid? wtf, must be an asian thing
mircea_popescu: more like rabbit thing
mircea_popescu: he prolly does it 49 times on an avg day
Diablo-D3: I couldn't get off in 2 minutes if I tried. Infact, I did. Didn't happen.
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 17471712.2288 based on data since last change | 4610091.30003 based on data for last three days
ThickAsThieves: ???
mircea_popescu: what the fucking fuck
mircea_popescu: are we forked ?!
mircea_popescu: we're forked. there's just no way.
Chaang-Noi: ahh sex time, yeah i have done over 2 hours before but not for a while.... 30 mins to an hour is fine...
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi most cooking takes about the same.
mircea_popescu: yest i made shrimp in white sauce with garlic + pasta, took like 25.
Chaang-Noi: yeah, but sex is so much better than food
mircea_popescu: hm
Chaang-Noi: if im goig to spend 1 hour doing something its going to be sex, not cooking:)
mircea_popescu: well obviously different, but both sensual delights.
Diablo-D3: hell, I wouldn't mind doing 8 hours on a meal
Diablo-D3: depends entirely what you're doing
ThickAsThieves: but really, whats going on with the diff
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 223776 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 2015 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 16 hours, 9 minutes, and 3 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17471712.2288 | Estimated Percent Change: 300.00477
thestringpuller: uh
thestringpuller: I'm getting June futures
mircea_popescu: wait
thestringpuller: LOL
mircea_popescu: 17 mn ?!
mircea_popescu: holy sheit i read that as 1.7mn
Chaang-Noi: yeah asics on fire
Namworld: not sure we're forked... but looks like someone could do a 50% +
mircea_popescu: look at http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/ tho
mircea_popescu: they have very diff numbers.
Chaang-Noi: that would suck, lol
Namworld: unless BFL is testing on top of ASICMINER
thestringpuller: bot isn't in sync...
mod6: yeah, they're showing 3m estimated
mod6: much different than the numbers gribble is giving
mircea_popescu: i wonder wtf.
ThickAsThieves: where does gibble pull from
ThickAsThieves: r'
mod6: even the diff change is saying 914 blocks, and gribble is saying 2015 blocks
mod6: err s/914/974
mircea_popescu: gribble wins tho, it's about 2k
mircea_popescu: retarget was earlier today
mod6: yeah, werid
mircea_popescu: maybe charts is off
mod6: ;;bc,nethash
gribble: 33000.822494620807
ThickAsThieves: http://bitcoindifficulty.com/
Chaang-Noi: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/
mircea_popescu: it's clearly up
mircea_popescu: charts is fucked up, must be
thestringpuller: is the estimate off?
thestringpuller: or is the estimate highest the farther away the next retarget it
thestringpuller: I think it's going to go down very quickly
thestringpuller: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 17471712.2288 based on data since last change | 4610091.30003 based on data for last three days
ThickAsThieves: ah
Chaang-Noi: wait three days i guess
ThickAsThieves: stringpuller wins
thestringpuller: good charts Chaang-Noi
Chaang-Noi: thanks
Chaang-Noi: that is what i use
Chaang-Noi: not mine btw
mircea_popescu: sipa is wuile
thestringpuller: wuile? wut dat meen?
mircea_popescu: Pieter Wuille aka sipa, https://github.com/sipa
Chaang-Noi: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 223778 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 2013 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 12559483.346 | Estimated Percent Change: 187.54212
Chaang-Noi: 12M now
blu3gr1ffon: who runs bitbet.us?
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu does
mircea_popescu: lol
blu3gr1ffon: cool, you made me .7btc mr. mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: watch me get a cake for doing such a good job
mircea_popescu: ahahaha win
kakobrekla: FUUUU
mircea_popescu: lmao totally.
Namworld: oh, bitbet report is in?
mircea_popescu: soonish
mircea_popescu: just as soon as im done cooking the motherfucking books
mircea_popescu: who knew accounting is this hard ;/
Namworld: It's more of being a PITA than being hard.
mircea_popescu: yes exactly.
ThickAsThieves: "This is not the apocalypse. It's just dumb," Mr. Obama told reporters
ThickAsThieves: re: sequester
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: What is the basis for your difficulty prediction?
mircea_popescu: whioch one ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 8 @ 0.03401 = 0.2721 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: "Bitcoin next difficulty looks like 17mn, a 300%ish increase. Possibly largest gap since the very early days."
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 5830327.65884 based on data since last change | 4610091.30003 based on data for last three days
mircea_popescu: it was the early estimate.
Bugpowder: that was like 15 minutes ago though
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00074307 = 3.7154 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6550 @ 0.00074306 = 4.867 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00074306 = 0.9288 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: it will change in 15 more minutes too
mircea_popescu: yes, early on estimates are noisy
mod6: i just got an email from my bank...they'd like me to donate some food to them.
mod6: o_O
kakobrekla: "people guarding the safes are hungry, f1"
mircea_popescu: mkay, first version of cooked books. http://trilema.com/2013/bitbet-february-2013-statement/
mircea_popescu: now let's see if we can get this shit past the auditors
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla what say you ?
kakobrekla: lemme see here
imsaguy: There's really not much to cook
mircea_popescu: imsaguy i gave up the weird cash-basis monstrosity i was doing last month
mircea_popescu: because if i kept up with it the report would have been literally uninteligible
imsaguy: just hire smickles already
mircea_popescu: much lighter version now
mircea_popescu: he's pregnant
imsaguy: jesus?
mircea_popescu: jesus had the flu
imsaguy: oh, I thought jesus was coming again
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+]
blu3gr1ffon: that's why smickles is pregnant
jcpham: http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-01-27/1233029874506.jpg
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours, 36 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
thestringpuller: smickles is super afk
thestringpuller: ^ imsaguy
jcpham: i bet smickles killed someone
jcpham: and he's just laying low
jcpham: he's 182% gangster to the core, that smickles
mircea_popescu: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/678-march-magic-month.html#post10143
mircea_popescu: this is kinda funnay.
mircea_popescu: the person that i'm pretending to be pretending to be or somesuch found it for me. imagine, a girl actually read bfl forums!
[\\\]: heh
jurov: bitbet referrals need whole addy or firstbits are okay?
[\\\]: I'm gonna make a bunch of claims, but then turn around and make a disclaimer that the claims could be false
kakobrekla: whole addy
[\\\]: He's too busy to do his own research but not too busy to make the initial claim
mircea_popescu: moreover... he disclaims whether bitbet is in fact owned by me or not
mircea_popescu: but he knows for a fact i'm a sad panda
mircea_popescu: because you see, there's some girl that keeps beating up on him on the interwebs
mircea_popescu: totally legit.
[\\\]: "one more day, I promise"
[\\\]: cross my heart, hope to die.
[\\\]: ok fine, I hope you die.
mircea_popescu: ;;google one more day
gribble: Spider-Man: One More Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man:_One_More_Day>; One More Day by Diamond Rio - The Last Time - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UWx-shGM0g>; One More Day Lyrics - Diamond Rio: <http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/diamond+rio/one+more+day_20039940.html>
mircea_popescu: wss this cheezy 90s song
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00611 = 0.0917 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0061 BTC [-]
[\\\]: I'll take your word for it, panda.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00609 = 0.609 BTC [-]
[\\\]: oh wait, inaba said you're a liar
[\\\]: and mommy said I can't talk to liars.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.7 = 10.2 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ya except after mpoe-pr walked all over his face on btctalk he has to say it in blfcloset
[\\\]: its easier to make up the rules in your own sandbox
mircea_popescu: "This person seams pretty sure of him self to bet so much money that we wont be seeing
mircea_popescu: A shipment before march, this has me a little worried."
mircea_popescu: very cute tho.
[\\\]: are there april bets yet?
mircea_popescu: yeah there's one like 60 btc
[\\\]: how about may or june?
mircea_popescu: not yet those.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
mircea_popescu: avalon too
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
[\\\]: I wouldn't take the avalon
mircea_popescu: 10:13 and 24:33 respectvely
mircea_popescu: apparently ppl think avalon has more of a shot ?!
mircea_popescu: in any case this makes me realise, bet arbitraging is now possible. yes one no the other or we
[\\\]: avalon has at least proven a device
[\\\]: even if not shipping en masse
mircea_popescu: that is a point.
[\\\]: what did kanoi hack on?
[\\\]: they shipped him to bfl to develop software, but what did he test with?
FonziSource: the avalon is not the quality i would expect
mircea_popescu: wasn't he on asicminers ?
FonziSource: but i would certainly rock the hashes
pigeons: damint fonzi, pick a nick
[\\\]: FonziSource: I'd expect there to be revisions between what Jeff got and what everyone else will receive
FonziSource: for avalon? yeah
mircea_popescu: prolly.
FonziSource: maybe a more poished product
FonziSource: I've read about the bugs and such
mircea_popescu: my guess would be thatm ost actual units would struggle to reach the prototype performance
mircea_popescu: it's the chinese way after all. soviet import.
FonziSource: but if the only bug is that it hangs every so x
[\\\]: that's not a bug
FonziSource: i'd reboot it prior to x and have a coke and a smile too
[\\\]: thats a feature
[\\\]: the windows miners still like to freak out after 5 days
[\\\]: so its not much different
[\\\]: schedule the reboot and be done
FonziSource: mine is rock-steady mostly yo
FonziSource: i just have the one
[\\\]: it is a bug in cgminer
[\\\]: don't tell them that tho
[\\\]: they'll blame windows
FonziSource: but I've got a cgminer running now since november on linux
FonziSource: non-stop
[\\\]: but basically, there were a few versions of cgminer that run for weeks
[\\\]: the new versions don't anymore
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: upgrade!
[\\\]: there's a leak somewhere :D
[\\\]: mircea_popescu: the whole stratum thing is forcing upgrades
mircea_popescu: i guess so
mircea_popescu: from what i gather the stratum is kinda unavoidable tho
FonziSource: cgminer version 2.4.0 - Started: [November 29, 2012, 12:47 pm] Rig: leviathan
FonziSource: (avg): 1040.85 Mh/s | Q:1714540 A:1896580 R:19689 HW:0 U:14.31/m ST:2258 DW:414493 NB:15431 LW:4265417 GF:292 RF:658
FonziSource: killing it
pigeons: no you can avoid if if you use Luke-Jr's bfgnet
pigeons: what's it called Luke-Jr
FonziSource: GBT
FonziSource: iirc
FonziSource: or is that a street drug
mircea_popescu: big fag net ?
imsaguy: great big tatas
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/41/network-difficulty-under-3-75-million/
mircea_popescu: oddly enough this is almost even money.
Luke-Jr: pigeons: I don't maintain BFGMiner old versions very long either
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,diff
gribble: 4367876.0008422
FonziSource: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 223785 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 2006 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 18 hours, 38 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 5112621.65753 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.05052
Luke-Jr: thought [\\\] should know better, and use it since it's got less bugs :P
FonziSource: 20 percent yesterday
FonziSource: so how much did the diff increase
pigeons: doesnt eligius support another overlay protocol in addition to stratum as an alternative?
FonziSource: the last estimate i saw was 20%
Luke-Jr: pigeons: Eligius supports standard GBT of course
pigeons: that's what i was looking for
pigeons: the name of gbt as an alternative to stratum
pigeons: gay bisexual lesbian,
pigeons: err transgender
FonziSource: gay bisexual thespian
Diablo-D3: oh my~
pigeons: gbt miner
pigeons: bitpride.com
mircea_popescu: gluttonous belching thracian why not
FonziSource: definitely bitpride
pigeons: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BIP_0023
mircea_popescu: ackageShell provides an environment for software packages to run in.
mircea_popescu: from bitpride.com
pigeons: chef don't judge
topace: has sdice dividend been announced yet ?
kakobrekla: wtf is this free money here
kakobrekla: http://bitbet.us/bet/41/network-difficulty-under-3-75-million/
kakobrekla: i mean, was.
kakobrekla: silly ppl.
kakobrekla: ah i see im late to the party, was this was already beaten moments ago
kakobrekla: nevermind me
midnightmagic: gbt is really an unfortunate name.
midnightmagic: Hey wasn't there a bet that Josh (from BFL) did about BFL delivery times not that long ago?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0007499 = 3.7495 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5262 @ 0.00074991 = 3.946 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075999 = 3.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21238 @ 0.00076 = 16.1409 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00610824 = 0.6108 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00610823 = 5.4974 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla especially as bet was made after the new diff lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 138 @ 0.006 = 0.828 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: :)
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic if you mean the bitbet thing it closed recently.
mircea_popescu: topace not yet
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: It was pretty big wasn't it?
mircea_popescu: 1.6k
Bugpowder: 13.33k
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
midnightmagic: jesus, 1.7k.
topace: mircea_popescu: doh i was hoping it would come today so i coud not work this weekend :p
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Oh, does the site not escrow bets?
mircea_popescu: topace possibly might
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic the site itself is the escrow.
jurov: kakobrekla, that 3-75-million bet wasn't very visible. i remember myself thinking about it, but then it scrolled down into oblivion
kakobrekla: myeah
kakobrekla: bbl gotta go
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i guess after this march 1st bfl will stand for butteryfly lols
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00601 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [-]
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: What the hell is that last comment bitching at you then..?! When one bets, they actually send BTC to the site right? Who mediates ambiguous bets?
mircea_popescu: tghe site. which last comment ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-]
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Scroll way down to the "I am done using this site."
midnightmagic: http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/
mircea_popescu: o o. yeah, i dunno. person got bored or w/e
mircea_popescu: if you grep the log there was some wtfing about it earlier
mircea_popescu: "The Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) has filed Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Department of Homeland Security, in response to a failure by the agency to release any documents pertaining to the “Emergency Wireless Protocols,” (Standard Operating Procedure 303 or “SOP 303″)."
mircea_popescu: the lol is strong with this one. this sop 303 thing is supposedly the procedure of how to turn off internets.
mircea_popescu: im sure it exists. especially if called "standard".
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.006 = 0.03 BTC [-]
midnightmagic: Doesn't SOP usually imply something that's done all the time?
mircea_popescu: in real world or in obamaworld ?
midnightmagic: Uh.
midnightmagic: Real world I guess!
mircea_popescu: then yes.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: in obamaworld things that were never done and can't in principle be done apparently qualify.
midnightmagic: Lame.
mircea_popescu: don't worry, he's creating jobs too
mircea_popescu: that's prolly sop 69
midnightmagic: gobble gobble
midnightmagic: Holy fuck I make good coffee..
jurov: There will be legal action resulting in injuction against or outright ban of sale of Google Glasses (or equivalent Google product) country-wide or state-wide in any country or US state, effective before 1st January 2014. Cited reason may be privacy concerns, patent violation or anything other.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Seriously man. I make fucking awesome coffee.
jurov: is such bet preliminary acceptable?
jurov: kakobrekla ^^^
midnightmagic: jurov: Hey.
midnightmagic: jurov: Guess what.
jurov: what? they're already banned somewhere?
midnightmagic: jurov: No. I make awesome coffee.
jurov: midnightmagic enjoy. i'll keep gulping here this instant shit with stevia.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic wd.
mircea_popescu: jurov i think so
jurov: well it's too broad scope... maybe they'll get banned in baluchistan and we won't know it
mircea_popescu: you said us state neh ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 299 @ 0.01 = 2.99 BTC [+]
jurov: i said us state or anywhere else
jurov: maybe limit it to US state or EU country
mircea_popescu: o yeah
jurov: submitted. we'll see.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.7 = 3.4 BTC [-]
jurov: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.48000, Best ask: 34.50999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02999, Last trade: 34.48001, 24 hour volume: 61642.33337937, 24 hour low: 30.90200, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 33.38684
jurov: 34.9 ftw
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6835 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: we're breaking 35 arent we
SudsyForce: http://i.imgur.com/81Jun1Q.jpg
SudsyForce: sfw
mircea_popescu: only have one weapon = moustache ?
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_rage_(law) also, lol.
SudsyForce: written, produced, and directed by Chris Robinson
SudsyForce: I wonder is Chris is angry
SudsyForce: ;;google chris robinson black rage
gribble: Black Rage (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rage_(film)>; Amazon.com: Black Rage [VHS]: Chris Robinson, Ted Cassidy ...: <http://www.amazon.com/Black-Rage-VHS-Chris-Robinson/dp/B00005IBN8>; Charcoal Black (1972) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079969/>
SudsyForce: Two slave brothers, one black, one an albino, discover a treasure map which is taken from them by their foreman. They take it back but are pursued by the foreman. Originally, the foreman seeks the aid of two bounty hunters who pursue the protagonists throughout the film. At the end, both the foreman and the bounty hunters catch up with the two escaped slaves, and the foreman has a change of heart, helping to kill the bounty hunters. ☟︎
thestringpuller: !ticker m S.MPOE
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0007147 / 0.00075292 / 0.00076 (264833 shares, 199.40 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069845 / 0.00078 (17743462 shares, 12,393.01 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067298 / 0.00078 (67591125 shares, 45,487.52 BTC)
thestringpuller: mpex has almost his 0.0008 BTC
mircea_popescu: SudsyForce course irl it works more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Ferguson_(convict)
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2241 @ 0.006 = 13.446 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4710 @ 0.00075142 = 3.5392 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: https://blockchain.info/hub-nodes
mircea_popescu: the us gets a honorable 4th position.
fydel: MR mircea_popescu: Is there a way to see the exact trade volumes of the mpex stocks? The graphs on mpex.com are nice but I would like to have more infos, Sir.
kakobrekla: http://bitcoin-assets.com/mpex-socket/
mircea_popescu: fydel well, there's the stuff in http://mpex.co/faq.html#11
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.0007147 / 0.0007529 / 0.00076 (269543 shares, 202.94 BTC), 7D: 0.00061614 / 0.00069867 / 0.00078 (17683122 shares, 12,354.72 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067298 / 0.00078 (67573650 shares, 45,476.39 BTC)
mircea_popescu: the 30 day volume comes from the json there for instance
fydel: mircea_popescu: thank you, sir
mircea_popescu: yw
fydel: kakobrekla: thank you,,this looks nice
thestringpuller: ;;seen smickles
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 35 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <smickles> pong
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 45 @ 0.35 = 15.75 BTC [+]
assbot: brb
assbot: [MPEX] [TEST] [PAID] 1.23456789 BTC to 1`000`000 shares, 0.00000123BTC per share
kakobrekla: aw fuck it went here
kakobrekla: a well fuck it then
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 15 @ 0.2999 = 4.4985 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
thestringpuller: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4920122.48034 based on data since last change | 4642001.13651 based on data for last three days
thestringpuller: there wr go more accurate data
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 38 @ 0.2999 = 11.3962 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] [PAID] 2.72083959 BTC to 5`000`000 shares, 0.00000054 BTC per share
mircea_popescu: that seems to work.
mircea_popescu: tho it'd prolly be a good idea if per share div was quoted in satoshi
kakobrekla: ok sure
kakobrekla: done
mircea_popescu: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WZOAlyVJY98/TSZt835TmwI/AAAAAAAARwU/CX-qqFCUmJ0/s1600/IMG_1178.JPG
mircea_popescu: isn't she grinning suspiciously.
SudsyForce: in other news I'm having difficulty reconciling this: http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/technical/optical_illusion.html
SudsyForce: i may have to take an internet break
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.6805 = 4.083 BTC [-]
mjr_: whats up :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]
mjr_: mpex website is down?
mjr_: or is it me?
kakobrekla: works here
Bugpowder: hey dudes, got a little troubleshooting question
Bugpowder: anyone game?
kakobrekla: game what?
Bugpowder: importing a cold wallet.dat into my main bitcoin-qt client
Bugpowder: and no balance shows up
Bugpowder: despite it showing the right addresss
Bugpowder: and being fully synced with network
kakobrekla: did you try that rescan option
Bugpowder: and blockchain shows it in there
Bugpowder: no
Bugpowder: did not rescan
Bugpowder: Will that redownload the blockchain?
kakobrekla: no
kakobrekla: -rescan Rescan the block chain for missing wallet transactions
Bugpowder: could it potentially damage my hot wallet?
Diablo-D3: I really should beat Ukto with a cluebat
kakobrekla: well bitcoin can potentially do preetymuch anything including with stabbing you in the face
kakobrekla: make a copy
kakobrekla: bitcoind*
Bugpowder: yes I have a copy
Bugpowder: multiple copies
kakobrekla: well not to worry then
Bugpowder: OK.
kakobrekla: close it, run it with -rescan
kakobrekla: it will take a while
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.82300, Best ask: 34.84999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02699, Last trade: 34.82300, 24 hour volume: 37832.17788346, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.18692
Bowjob: lol
Bugpowder: I am trying to move my main stash into cold storage, just testing how it works now
Bugpowder: thanks for the input
kakobrekla: k
Bowjob: bug, had you been so stubborn you woulda been crushed by your puts
Bugpowder: yes I know
Bugpowder: that is why I exited them
Bugpowder: at the bottom of the 24hr dip
Bugpowder: this market is too damn strong
Bugpowder: trend is your friend
Bugpowder: not that I'm complaining
Bowjob: eh
Bowjob: I'm looking at private islands for a near future purchase.. i wonder which one's the best value for buck
Bowjob: :)
Ukto: Diablo-D3 ?
Ukto: what now ?
Bugpowder: excellent. Thanks kakobrekla
Diablo-D3: Ukto: you don't accept bitcoins directly
Ukto: hopefully in the next 30 days
Ukto: new stuff will be in effect
Ukto: that will make your head spins
Ukto: and it wont matter
Ukto: spin
FabianB: mircea_popescu: mpex dossed again?
Bowjob: http://bitbet.us/bet/277/bitbet-haxxed-in-2013/
Bowjob: wtff
Bowjob: nvm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00075557 = 9.8224 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006389 = 0.6389 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: now we wait for the weekend dip...
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 25 @ 0.00072 = 0.018 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 925 @ 0.00073 = 0.6753 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+]
Bowjob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148212.new;boardseen#new
Bowjob: O:
Bowjob: "Lessons learned. Batch #2 process will have improvements, minor design adjustments and other goodies."
Bugpowder: O_o
Bugpowder: damn son
Bugpowder: that is like $15,000 down the tubes
Bowjob: theres more avalons than we discovered
Bowjob: but why did both fuck up at the exact same time?
Bugpowder: he stacked them on top of each other
Bugpowder: or there is a faulty batch
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6795 = 3.3975 BTC [-]
Bowjob: hopefull batch two will resolve that
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.006389 = 0.0703 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: FabianB is it ?
mircea_popescu: bowjob that avalon bet adjustment seems prescient in retrospect huh
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.68 = 23.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 1000 @ 0.11319853 = 113.1985 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075999 = 3.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00076 = 7.372 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Sir, they are two avalon located in different rooms. No one touch them because they are all working well last night before I went to sleep."
mircea_popescu: o this poor guy
mircea_popescu: has the distinct sound of ruined family hopes and aspirations to it.
jurov: if anyone desperately needs to place orders, mpex.coinbr.com still works
jurov: at leat stat does
Bowjob: im withholding my bet.. im uncertain'
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: I already bet $1500 on avalon anyyway
jurov: mircea_popescu , no comment? it's ddos?
mircea_popescu: what is ?!
mircea_popescu: site's fine ?
jurov: i can't access mpex.co .. times out
jurov: only via proxy
mircea_popescu: tehn you may have a dns issue locally
mircea_popescu: but the site is on the web.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.685 = 8.22 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mpex.co
mircea_popescu: and it never was down today either.
jurov: wtf is this
mircea_popescu: interesting, are you going through the same hub as fabian ?
mircea_popescu: <assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 1000 @ 0.11319853 = 113.1985 BTC [-]
mod6: i havent had any problems
mircea_popescu: besides, it trades
jurov: traaaceroute gets this: http://bitbin.it/Malhw4h3
mircea_popescu: also in the news, pinkhouse : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134290700472.jpg
mircea_popescu: FabianB are you also going through the same node as jurov http://bitbin.it/Malhw4h3 ?
kakobrekla: does this pinkhouse have a street address?
kakobrekla: has*
kakobrekla: fuckin iliteral
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla only for the initiated
mircea_popescu: jurov it looks like atlas.cogentco is having issues and perhaps dropping packets
jurov: good you have put the proxies in place, i just switched
kakobrekla: well hmm
kakobrekla: im initiated in various stuffs
jurov: interesting that from my bitvps from zurich it works
Bowjob: basically theres more avalons in the wild than we previously thought
kakobrekla: hm?
Bowjob: so.. 298/300 avalons work
Bowjob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148212.new;boardseen#new
Bowjob: One thing that bothers me.. 2 of them shut off at the exact same time
Bowjob: was it on his end?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.685 = 1.37 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: ;;later tell Bugpowder
gribble: (later tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
thestringpuller: ;;later tell Bugpowder http://gizmodo.com/5987639/scientists-wire-two-rats-brains-together-and-share-a-thought-across-the-internet
gribble: The operation succeeded.
thestringpuller: ;;calc 298/300
gribble: 0.993333333333
thestringpuller: 99% of all Avalon's work, seems like a good job. A+ no?
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.27669, Best ask: 34.58835, Bid-ask spread: 0.31166, Last trade: 34.27626, 24 hour volume: 41270.19696629, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.26412
Bowjob: only 34.27?
Bowjob: crash!!!
thestringpuller: ;;market sell 10000
gribble: A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 333181.4110 USD and would take the last price down to 32.5000 USD, resulting in an average price of 33.3181 USD/BTC.
thestringpuller: ;;market sell 100000
gribble: A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2800852.7112 USD and would take the last price down to 19.5000 USD, resulting in an average price of 28.0085 USD/BTC.
thestringpuller: ;;market buy 100000
gribble: This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 71717.994 bitcoins, for a total of 16174263427823.8477 USD and take the price to 13370133701337.0000.
thestringpuller: ;;market buy 1000
gribble: A market order to buy 1000 bitcoins right now would take 34837.9787 USD and would take the last price up to 34.9100 USD, resulting in an average price of 34.8380 USD/BTC.
thestringpuller: ;;market buy 10000
gribble: A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 352432.4425 USD and would take the last price up to 35.9775 USD, resulting in an average price of 35.2432 USD/BTC.
thestringpuller: We very well may soon see how many bitcoins have actually been lost...
thestringpuller: ;;market sell 1000000
gribble: A market order to sell 1000000 bitcoins right now would net 4530174.0465 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 4.5302 USD/BTC.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/all-thatll-do-is-drive-financiers-to-bitcoin/
mircea_popescu: jurov pretty nifty system after all huh.
jurov: <thestringpuller> 99% of all Avalon's work, seems like a good job. A+ no? <<<sauce?
thestringpuller: sauce?
thestringpuller: wut dat meen?
jurov: where are all the other 98% ?
jurov: in other news, coinbr unanimously voted to pay me bonuses
jurov: few trillions satoshis
jurov: untaxed
jurov: thestringpuller oh you just made fun, i see
Bowjob: i want to see 1 satoshi 1 cent
Bowjob: :3
kakobrekla: i will sell you a satoshi for 1 cent
kakobrekla: and you can have it.
Bowjob: :/
kakobrekla: what?
kakobrekla: isnt that what you said you wanted?
Bowjob: yeah totally
jurov: i can buy the satoshi for 1.5 cents
jurov: and we'll push the tx to assbot thus making them official
kakobrekla: hehe
Bowjob: does paypal even allow 1 cent txs
kakobrekla: what is paypal?
mircea_popescu: paypal is this amazon scamcoin
thestringpuller: ebay scamcoin*
thestringpuller: ebay owns paypal :P
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is going senile it seems.
mircea_popescu: a distinction without a difference.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00637772 = 0.6378 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00637773 = 1.9133 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00637775 = 6.3778 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4900 @ 0.00637776 = 31.251 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 24700 @ 0.00637777 = 157.5309 BTC [+]
jurov: nice
jurov: you remember the story about detergent becoming..er..money?
jurov: i think that was least scammy money ever
jurov: and oh so liquid
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00637777 = 1.2756 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00075557 = 10.8802 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00075142 = 7.4391 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P330T] 750 @ 0.14253227 = 106.8992 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.6675 = 10.0125 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.667 = 2.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 38 @ 0.645 = 24.51 BTC [-]
jurov: pity that beercoin didn't catch up
kakobrekla: you have like a million of those?
mircea_popescu: lol
jurov: i was given some
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/277/bitbet-haxxed-in-2013/
mircea_popescu: 1000:1!
kakobrekla: is not gonna happen pft
thestringpuller: kakobrekla is russian
mircea_popescu: he's turkish
kakobrekla: lol
jurov: azerbaijan
thestringpuller: a distinction without a difference << this
jurov: named nationals would mightily disagree
thestringpuller: mircea said it not me
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: there's plenty of diff between turks and russians.
jurov: and thestringpusher is from burkina faso
mircea_popescu: turks fuck their wives in the ass. russians beat them up.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00639 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: granted it's painful either way, but still.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00639 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.006388 = 0.0128 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;calc 33 / (-0.25512908+1)
gribble: 44.3029780247
thestringpuller: ;;calc 33 / (-0.13944319+1)
gribble: 38.3472649528
thestringpuller: ;;calc 33 / (-0.17529893+1)
gribble: 40.0144988293
thestringpuller: ;;calc 35 / (-0.22035473+1)
gribble: 44.8922110436
thestringpuller: ;;calc 37 / (-0.18423278+1)
gribble: 45.3560759649
thestringpuller: ;;calc 31 / (-0.27963952+1)
gribble: 43.0340098613
Bugpowder: Stunt science.
thestringpuller: Stunt science?
Bugpowder: Nicolelis is a genius of stunts
thestringpuller: stunt as in the gangsta phrase? Like
Bugpowder: I was tempted
thestringpuller: "nigga you be stuntin"
Bugpowder: To propose that expt
Bugpowder: He is tight with Lula
Bugpowder: Here is the criticism
Bugpowder: We learn nothing from that experiment
Bugpowder: It's just a cool demo
Bugpowder: But it is a pretty cool demo
Bugpowder: I proposed that expt to a postdoc in his lab and he was like... Yah I'm not supposed to say anything but we already have done that
Bugpowder: 6. Months ago
Bugpowder: Nicolelis has a great sense for sexy science
thestringpuller: Dr. Bugpowder
Bugpowder: For b
Bugpowder: For now...
Bugpowder: Soon to be prof
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 98 @ 0.006388 = 0.626 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: Professor Bugpowder, you should take bribes from your students in BTC.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1120 @ 0.006389 = 7.1557 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00639 = 0.639 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: or S.DICE stock
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4731 @ 0.00639 = 30.2311 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2241 @ 0.0064 = 14.3424 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6659 @ 0.00641 = 42.6842 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 750 @ 0.23606086 = 177.0456 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: puts capitulation ?
Bugpowder: I would never
mircea_popescu: hahaha so basically avalon 1st april delivery bet is about to overtake bfl 1st april delivery.
mircea_popescu: talk about collapse into irrelevance.
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: dont i get anything for that bet
Bowjob: ?
mircea_popescu: you put it in ?
Bowjob: yeah
Bowjob: i didnt take a side however
mircea_popescu: then yes, when it settles. your addy should be on one of the inputs
mircea_popescu: you automatically get the lower house bet.
mircea_popescu: go check
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/274/bernard-hopkins-vs-tavoris-cloud-hopkins-to-win/
mircea_popescu: like 100 btc ? who's hopkins even
Bugpowder: Bernard??
Bugpowder: Is he retired
mircea_popescu: seems not
Bugpowder: Like 5 years ago
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.02125, Best ask: 34.02600, Bid-ask spread: 0.00475, Last trade: 34.02124, 24 hour volume: 43518.84638286, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.27453
Bowjob: $34.02.. crash!
mod6: here comes some coins!
Bowjob: mhm, its weekend
Bowjob: oh yeah, weekend dip. nothing to worry about
Bowjob: i wanna sell my avalon batch 2 as a collectors item someday
Bugpowder: Fucking 10000 BTC wall
Bowjob: might fetch quite a price at sotheby's
Bugpowder: Hory weekend dump
Bugpowder: Logging into mtgox
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.37000, Best ask: 33.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 33.40000, 24 hour volume: 46971.71104167, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.23265
Bowjob: the bears are attacking
Bowjob: brb, dumping. see you at single digits
Bugpowder: Massive ask wall at 33.50
kakobrekla: u scared much?
kakobrekla: infidels
Bugpowder: Nah
Bugpowder: Just need to
Bugpowder: Position my buy orders
mircea_popescu: bots need to get repositioned
mircea_popescu: "161 arrested in Saudi Arabia protest over detentions, including 15 women and 6 children"
mircea_popescu: so basically... they have more reason to protest now
Bowjob: saudi people are very good at beheading
Bowjob: way better than the mexicans
mircea_popescu: ya well... they failed to protect irak,
mircea_popescu: then fgailed to protect lybia
mircea_popescu: syria is pretty much lost
mircea_popescu: so now it's their turn.
mircea_popescu: the old jewish story about "when they finally came for me there was no one else around"
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stat
gribble: Error: "bc,stat" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 223830 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1961 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 17 hours, 36 minutes, and 37 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4843098.93958 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.87995
Bugpowder_: the economist cover on Syria was cool
mircea_popescu: it ain't gonna happen.
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.71000, Best ask: 33.89879, Bid-ask spread: 0.18879, Last trade: 33.89879, 24 hour volume: 60515.34646797, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.09078
Bowjob: dat spread
mod6: wow
mod6: someone's back'in up the truck
maximian: well, that dump was absorbed easily
maximian: this perma-rally is crazy
mod6: shorts have been getting crushed
kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/KzY4tPF.jpg
kakobrekla: not too shabby
mod6: dang kakobrekla
kakobrekla: not mine, but i wouldnt mind.
mod6: srsly
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.02502, Best ask: 34.13582, Bid-ask spread: 0.11080, Last trade: 34.13583, 24 hour volume: 62126.92918597, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.08840
kakobrekla: ;;calc 1500/34
gribble: 44.1176470588
kakobrekla: 44 btc
kakobrekla: each
mod6: wow.
kakobrekla: cheap
kakobrekla: you need to find 2 blocks and you are even
mod6: gtfo you don't have any of those lol
mod6: if I push you 44BTC you'll send?
kakobrekla: 03:47.20 ( kakobrekla ) not mine, but i wouldnt mind.
mod6: yah. aight hahaha
mod6: im like dude, i want one!!!
mod6: you probably would have scammed me for 2
mod6: ass
mod6: *ahem*
mod6: not you FabianB_, scammar kakobrekla
mod6: :P
mod6: tryin to pull the ole "i got asic's!!!" one on mod6
kakobrekla: nah
mod6: hahaa
kakobrekla: but i wouldnt sell em
kakobrekla: even if i had em
mod6: im sayin!
kakobrekla: bbl
mod6: ok.
Bugpowder: Wall got bot?!
mod6: well, then I saw another like 10000 show up on the ask side.
mod6: but yeah, the first 10000 did!
mod6: it was fast
mod6: lets see what gribble says
mircea_popescu: dub http://trilema.com/2013/dazed-and-confused/
mod6: ;;asks 33
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 33.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total.
mod6: ;;asks 35
gribble: There are currently 5933.3105 bitcoins offered at or under 35.0 USD, worth 206963.560478 USD in total.
mod6: oh hmm.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.69391, Best ask: 33.84351, Bid-ask spread: 0.14960, Last trade: 33.84351, 24 hour volume: 62235.33867428, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.08873
mircea_popescu: the calls are gonna make bank.
mod6: yeah, i think my clark moody was screwed up
mod6: i wish kako had those asics
mod6: one of those guys from the other night was like, "LETS GET TWO!!" heh
mod6: they're something of a unicorn methinks
BingoBongo: ;; ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 33.66001, Best ask: 33.89669, Bid-ask spread: 0.23668, Last trade: 33.65062, 24 hour volume: 62649.19977577, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.08709
BingoBongo: http://bitbet.us/bet/254/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-be-above-35-on/ Resolved?
kakobrekla: it says there
kakobrekla: Betting closed. Pending resolution.
BingoBongo: Is it UTC?
kakobrekla: yea
BingoBongo: Cool
mircea_popescu: did it ?
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.41001, Best ask: 34.42509, Bid-ask spread: 0.01508, Last trade: 34.40738, 24 hour volume: 62436.63064572, 24 hour low: 32.92000, 24 hour high: 34.90000, 24 hour vwap: 34.09427
mircea_popescu: seems not.
mircea_popescu: "stabilization of expected inflation..are products of the increasing credibility of the Fed's commitment to price stability"
mircea_popescu: ahahaha duuude.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what's in their tokes.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00412 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00198 = 0.0198 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10690 @ 0.00075142 = 8.0327 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1860 @ 0.00074926 = 1.3936 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: burnside exchanges down?
mircea_popescu: seems fine
ThickAsThieves: I get Error: Xcoind backend failure in getbalance at 774
mircea_popescu: are you logged in as mircea_popescu ?
ThickAsThieves: nah i sold those 900 shares
ThickAsThieves: works fine in a diff browser
mircea_popescu: http://mises.org/daily/6361/Monetary-Origins-of-the-Poker-Bubble
mircea_popescu: actually a pretty good read.
ThickAsThieves: ok so i opened another browser,
ThickAsThieves: but when i log in
ThickAsThieves: it gives me the error again
ThickAsThieves: when you tested did you log in?
ThickAsThieves: i assume you dont have an account...
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 8 @ 0.26455015 = 2.1164 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.681 = 2.043 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i just pinged
mircea_popescu: burnside_afk ^
Chaang-Noi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147504.msg1572916#msg1572916 seen this lol
ThickAsThieves: such an expesive lesson to learn!
Chaang-Noi: well, they lost just a bit
Chaang-Noi: bet right, still lose money however is fucking lol
ThickAsThieves: it's certainly not good for publicity,
ThickAsThieves: but i also kinda fon't care about people trying to sneak bets in at low risk
Chaang-Noi: well people should not make a bet when weight is only 75 out of 100,000
ThickAsThieves: don't*
Chaang-Noi: yeah i made like 9% on my late bet
Chaang-Noi: people need to do mathz
ThickAsThieves: also, as mp pointed out, if it was a higher ratio bet
ThickAsThieves: lower weight can still get coin
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> but i also kinda fon't care about people trying to sneak bets in at low risk << this.
mircea_popescu: scalper self-owned. duh.
ThickAsThieves: that guy who bet 50 BTC
ThickAsThieves: lost like 11 cents
ThickAsThieves: cry me a river
Chaang-Noi: i just found it funny
Chaang-Noi: i was not complaining
mircea_popescu: i guess bitbet is busting into the mainstream,
mircea_popescu: there's fiddy threads about that it seems
Chaang-Noi: yeah, people who like btc love gambling
Chaang-Noi: crazy...
mircea_popescu: i think people love gambling a liot more than anyone suspects
mircea_popescu: it's just too difficult to do
ThickAsThieves: i had someone justify scratch tickets to me the other day
ThickAsThieves: basically, you can't win if you don't play!
B0g4r7: I liked scalping BoB bets. Lately they've stopped me tho.
mircea_popescu: how ?
ThickAsThieves: dang them DMC shares paid nicely
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147314.msg1568293#msg1568293
mircea_popescu: i like it when she totally shots threads dead
ThickAsThieves: i think one appealing aspect of the company retaining shares as payment
ThickAsThieves: is it make figuring dividends per share simpler
mircea_popescu: how you figure ?
ThickAsThieves: on the fly i mean, like while checking out stock prices on the exchanges
ThickAsThieves: you dont need to memorize or look up how many shares are public
ThickAsThieves: like sdice, how 10% of profit goes to public
mircea_popescu: uh
mircea_popescu: what you say seems to contradict what you say.
ThickAsThieves: i realize that
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: so, normal company. issues 100 shares, makes 100 profit, retains 30% pays out 70%. dividend is .7 per share
mircea_popescu: weirdo glbse abomination : issues 100 shares, of which it sells 70 and keeps 30 "for growth". makes 100 profit now it pays out 1 per share
mircea_popescu: except each actual share gets a further .3 from the retainment
mircea_popescu: and wtf
ThickAsThieves: pretty much yeah
mircea_popescu: and then later maybe it sells some of the "kept" shares
mircea_popescu: in general it's just a way to equivocate ownership, which practically works as a way for the operator to steal equity.
mircea_popescu: not something you wish to see.
ThickAsThieves: expenses arent exactly difficult to fake either
mircea_popescu: true
mircea_popescu: this is a major problem going forward actually.
ThickAsThieves: for example, this bitcoinpride ipo
ThickAsThieves: who knows what the hell his expenses are
ThickAsThieves: selling shirts
ThickAsThieves: is he printing on demand?
ThickAsThieves: screenprinting in batches?
ThickAsThieves: using a vendor?
mircea_popescu: yeah
Chaang-Noi: mp, i was told if we deposit 1000 btc on mpex we get a free account. true or not?
mircea_popescu: not.
mircea_popescu: Hi there, I would like to start correspondence with you, i have seen your profile and i'm very interested. I'm looking for loyal, romantic and intelligent guy for serious relations.
mircea_popescu: ok, who's been spreading shit about me ?
BitHub: that's cheating spamming whore
BitHub: -'s
mircea_popescu: I dunno dood. she signs "Respectfully yours, Tanya" and her email is Sorokian83@yandex.ru
mircea_popescu: seems legit.
BitHub: don't let her go bro, follow your heart
mircea_popescu: "[WTB] $ Get Me a Digital File(s) From the Internet $ johnniewalker"
mircea_popescu: is this guy serious ?!
kakobrekla: mornin.
mircea_popescu: dude bitbet was haxed!
Chaang-Noi: ?
BitHub: not again
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148350.0
mircea_popescu: gotta love this stuff. asicminer/bitfountain dropped the ball on handling their shares ?
mircea_popescu: that's ok, the market will do what it can.
mircea_popescu: perhaps the next company learns to be less retarded from this.
BitHub: hmmmm
BitHub: asicminer PT
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00074766 = 7.5514 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.0007476 = 0.4486 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00610823 / 0.00637054 / 0.00637777 (37300 shares, 237.62 BTC), 7D: 0.00578039 / 0.00624256 / 0.00638999 (351758 shares, 2,195.87 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00601894 / 0.007395 (6807830 shares, 40,975.93 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.00601894*40000
gribble: 240.7576
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4194032.01349 based on data since last change | 4324654.12955 based on data for last three days
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.398 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.1199 = 0.2398 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 18 @ 0.00849 = 0.1528 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.35 = 2.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.00849 = 0.0679 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20845732 = 208.4573 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23388811 = 233.8881 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26266949 = 262.6695 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 8 @ 0.27533866 = 2.2027 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 992 @ 0.29501916 = 292.659 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: aaand the oix jumps two dolla
kakobrekla: 36 O_o
kakobrekla: almost 37
mircea_popescu: yeh
mircea_popescu: these are exciting times
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi what you're probably thinking about is the fact that if you trade worth somethign like a few k's worth you make your mpex reg fee back out of the fees difference.
mircea_popescu: also i nthe news, http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/02/28/girls-gone-wild-bankruptcy/1954419/
BitHub: oh no
BitHub: who will document these beautiful creatures?
mircea_popescu: their bfs ?
Chaang-Noi: mp it was something your pr girl told theymos
mircea_popescu: a, a that.
mircea_popescu: yeah, but that was strictly an offer related to his forum moneyz.
mircea_popescu: like a one off sort of thing. (he missed out on it too)
Chaang-Noi: that did not seem to be clear
mircea_popescu: a well. we live, we clarify.
Chaang-Noi: just wondering, i passed up the free account with no string attached anyway.
Chaang-Noi: i kinda found why he was doing that with the forum moneies, he wanted to do fraction reserves...
Chaang-Noi: seems like a cover to spend it..
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.0906 = 0.1812 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: from what i recall you got really hot and bothered because you missent something like a 1 btc
mircea_popescu: back before mpex, in the mpoe days
Chaang-Noi: ?
Chaang-Noi: mpoe?
Chaang-Noi: i passed it up cuz i assumed an exchange with high fees would never work, and other than s,dice that seems to be true, and i think s.dice is way to high and i would not ahve invested in it anyway.
BitHub: my lawyer advised me to not use mpex
mircea_popescu: BitHub did you get a signed paper and everything ?
Chaang-Noi: lol, why did you waste your lawyers time? what did you really think he would say?
Chaang-Noi: what lawyer anywhere would think an unregistered stock exchange in fake internet money was a good idea??
BitHub: i'm jk :)
mircea_popescu: well inasmuch as it's fake internet money, what diff does it make.
mircea_popescu: BitHub pity, i'd totally have put it up in the faq
BitHub: haha
BitHub: i like your faq
BitHub: "this is dog"
mircea_popescu: it may be dog, but it's a bitch for translators.
mircea_popescu: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-03-01/business/chi-square-told-to-stop-processing-mobile-payments-in-ill-20130301_1_mobile-payments-illinois-regulators-cell-phone
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20812111 = 208.1211 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23354686 = 233.5469 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26232486 = 262.3249 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29467593 = 294.6759 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: lol http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/1/4054762/obama-strikes-back-after-illogical-jedi-mind-meld-comment
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.68 = 5.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20807672 = 208.0767 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23350323 = 233.5032 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26228253 = 262.2825 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: oh my.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29463549 = 294.6355 BTC [-]
error4733: can some1 can explain thids for me please ?
Bugpowder: Big beta
Bugpowder: Bets
error4733: still a noob for this kind of stuff
error4733: bet on 37$ ?
mircea_popescu: on just a little under 37 i think
Bugpowder: More like $50
mircea_popescu: no wait. actually, on 44
mircea_popescu: yeah
mircea_popescu: oix calls side says 44.0
mircea_popescu: but i guess the person is probably going for the psychological 50
error4733: what the name of this order ? (needed for google)
mircea_popescu: error4733 call options ?
Bugpowder: Yah
error4733: this
error4733: thanks ;) i told you i'm a noob hehe
mircea_popescu: dude if we have a new max in feb and break 50 in march...
mircea_popescu: true that it's a long (5 week) month
Bugpowder: Those need it to hit 46.5
ThickAsThieves: not unlikely
Bugpowder: At least the 37s
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 47
gribble: There are currently 38136.24 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 1443933.18817 USD in total.
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 37
gribble: There are currently 18088.055 bitcoins offered at or under 37.0 USD, worth 641235.039706 USD in total.
error4733: same wall as 32$
mircea_popescu: mil and a half. somehow it doesn't look like much at all.
mircea_popescu: i wonder if this signals the top is in.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20803246 = 208.0325 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23345974 = 233.4597 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26224033 = 262.2403 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29459517 = 294.5952 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: If its that other big fish, it will prob tank within 24 hours
mircea_popescu: he's gonna buy the whole book isnt he.
Bugpowder: He will exit for a 30% loss
mircea_popescu: lol i recall that.
Bugpowder: And it will then bounce
mircea_popescu: to 50
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: it totally happened once
Bugpowder: And continue up to 50
Bugpowder: Last month
mircea_popescu: wasn't it end of jan ?
Bugpowder: Happened twice
mircea_popescu: i recall the huge puts scramble end of jan
Bugpowder: End of jan with the short puts
mircea_popescu: ya
Bugpowder: And again mid feb
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.0063777 = 63.777 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Heyyo
mircea_popescu: 777 is that some sort of payout ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 27 @ 0.646 = 17.442 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.646 = 12.92 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6455 = 1.9365 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.6452 = 1.9356 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.6451 = 7.7412 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 35 @ 0.642 = 22.47 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hmm, i have an idea.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0063777 = 31.8885 BTC [-]
error4733: ? i'm still drunk ? those order should normlay got a [+]
ThickAsThieves: price went down -
ThickAsThieves: interested in hearing this idea
error4733: http://www.onerandomb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/jackie-chan-meme.png
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.642 = 12.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.665 = 4.655 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20799254 = 207.9925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23342052 = 233.4205 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 18 @ 0.262 = 4.716 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 982 @ 0.26220227 = 257.4826 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29455881 = 294.5588 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00000027 / 0.00000041 / 0.00000045 ( shares, 0.00 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 26.99890377 / 41.78034705 / 44.6280476 ( shares, 8,354.47 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
ThickAsThieves: so the more people factor this OIX into their decisions, the more it manifests it's own value
ThickAsThieves: genius
mircea_popescu: ok so, the low is put oix, the high is call oix, the avg is mixed oix.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves virus :D
Bugpowder: Love the oix idea btw
mircea_popescu: :)
ThickAsThieves: so is an oix asset coming up too?
mircea_popescu: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 26.99890377 / 41.78034705 / 44.6280476 (no shares, 8,354.47 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ahaha check that out, i can now hax assbot.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well possibly. i think it's not heavy enough yet to trade.
mircea_popescu: maybe a decent idea for a PT, but i'd be loath to introduce it to mpex, have someone dump 5k on it
mircea_popescu: when itself it's only based on like 8k atm and may at any time zero out even
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20795276 = 207.9528 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23338143 = 233.3814 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26216435 = 262.1644 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29452258 = 294.5226 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: yup he's buying the book, no doubt about it
ThickAsThieves: yeah i was mostly thinking about potential PT too
ThickAsThieves: now this is def beyond my knowledge,
mircea_popescu: actually it would prolly make a wunderbar hedge for anchoring tyhings like ltc
ThickAsThieves: but buying the book essentially puts him in control?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves in a sense. it takes the bot out of the offer market, so he might be able to offer them back at w/e price suits him
mircea_popescu: but its limited
ThickAsThieves: i think there's a lot of potential for playing ltc assets and ltc in general against btc
mircea_popescu: ya possibly.
ThickAsThieves: ive been buying up stuff
mircea_popescu: it's unlikely you'd make a oix bet that's too big in ltc, because ltc is kinda small.
ThickAsThieves: ltc=.0788 usd
ThickAsThieves: .00243 BTC
ThickAsThieves: i'm tempting to get into botting on BTCe
ThickAsThieves: but its one more thing for me to learn
ThickAsThieves: you can push the price so easy
ThickAsThieves: even a 5000ltc buy at the right time of day sways the price for a while
kakobrekla: ;;calc 5000*.00243
gribble: 12.15
kakobrekla: eh?
kakobrekla: LETS FUCK UP LTC WITH 12 BTC
error4733: it's the plan with my SD div
ThickAsThieves: hehe,
ThickAsThieves: depends on time of day
ThickAsThieves: like right now 5000ltc doesnt make a big dent
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20790871 = 207.9087 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: but last night it did
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23333813 = 233.3381 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26212234 = 262.1223 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29448245 = 294.4825 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 5k ltc is what, like twenny bux ?
ThickAsThieves: 413
ThickAsThieves: if someone took 100-150btc into btc-e
ThickAsThieves: you could control it probably
mircea_popescu: speaking of socks, http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/482780_10151514214651427_1000150296_n.jpg
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 5000 * .0788
gribble: 394
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust ThickAsThieves
gribble: Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user ThickAsThieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=ThickAsThieves
mircea_popescu: aww y not in the wot
ThickAsThieves: i'm a noob
ThickAsThieves: is why
mircea_popescu: so get reg'd.
ThickAsThieves: i should
ThickAsThieves: curious, why did you look me up?
mircea_popescu: because i am looking for a ltc broker.
ThickAsThieves: ah
kakobrekla: what are your evil plans mp
ThickAsThieves: crash ltc
mircea_popescu: they're not evil he said knowingly.
kakobrekla: :)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20734514 = 207.3451 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23274072 = 232.7407 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 1000 @ 0.26148834 = 261.4883 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 1000 @ 0.29382066 = 293.8207 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i think i did that right
ThickAsThieves: ;;gettrust ThickAsThieves
gribble: Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user ThickAsThieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=ThickAsThieves
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.20730639 = 207.3064 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.23270264 = 232.7026 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;getrating ThickAsThieves
gribble: This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 642 @ 0.26145139 = 167.8518 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 697 @ 0.29378535 = 204.7684 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: seems you're there.
mircea_popescu: and the book's gone on the low end
ThickAsThieves: ok now i did it
ThickAsThieves: missed the bcverify step
ThickAsThieves: so now i should call in some recent people i transacted with to get some ratings in there right?
ThickAsThieves: ;;getrating ThickAsThieves
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask ThickAsThieves!ThickAsThi@c-98-231-58-41.hsd1.fl.comcast.net . User thickasthieves, rated since Sat Mar 2 08:19:18 2013. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 0 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=thickasthieves
ThickAsThieves: yay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 1.6 = 14.4 BTC [-]
jurov: _;;rate ThickAsThieves -10 welcome
ThickAsThieves: :P
jurov: >:D
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]
topace_: mircea_popescu: in the push receipt, quantity will be split with a thousands separator right? like 1`456`231 ?
topace_: Your order to push 1xS.DICE ...etc
mircea_popescu: let me check that for you
mircea_popescu: no, it will not.
topace_: ah k thanks. just /[0-9]+/ then?
mircea_popescu: uyp
mircea_popescu: no dots either, an integer value
topace_: perfect
mircea_popescu: incidentally : you can test push by pushing to your own account
mircea_popescu: to your heart's content.
topace_: ooo good to know!
topace_: thanks
topace_: im _almost_ ready to do a test :)
mircea_popescu: it person is like "yes, you said no separators there because people may want to use it programatically"
mircea_popescu: im like... dude... totally. back in january
topace_: haha nice
topace_: well programatically i wouldnt care, just need to konw one way or another
topace_: no difference between /[0-9`]+/ and /[0-9]+/
Bugpowder: 36000 calls
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 30 @ 0.3 = 9 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: frizz is stickin to it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147914.msg1575388#msg1575388
ThickAsThieves: many will agree with him
ThickAsThieves: idc
ThickAsThieves: but they will
B0g4r7: I don't know the story, but if the fees are disclosed in the terms and he didn't read or agree to them, then tough hash.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6771 @ 0.0007476 = 5.062 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1671 @ 0.00074398 = 1.2432 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6799 BTC [+]
mjr_: hello everyone
mjr_: whats new everyone?
topace_: just finishing my mpex->havelock push code
topace_: looking for testers soon :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+]
blu3gr1ffon: /j #nachatroom
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7794 @ 0.00074398 = 5.7986 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41791 @ 0.00073993 = 30.9224 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4446 @ 0.00073886 = 3.285 BTC [-]
Bowjob: mhm
blu3gr1ffon: man motion
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.00002, Best ask: 34.09012, Bid-ask spread: 0.09010, Last trade: 34.09012, 24 hour volume: 45679.51468007, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.88000, 24 hour vwap: 34.01969
error4733: ;;ticker m s.dice
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
mjr_: is there a unicode character for bitcoin yet?
error4733: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_symbol
mjr_: thanks :)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla big surprise there.
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/277/bitbet-haxxed-in-2013/
mircea_popescu: lol bet clearly says "all nos will be refunded"
mircea_popescu: people bet no.
mircea_popescu: win.
jurov: someone used faucet to annoying end?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4446 @ 0.00075672 = 3.3644 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23938 @ 0.00075673 = 18.1146 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00075712 = 7.5712 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14713 @ 0.00075713 = 11.1397 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8427 @ 0.00075999 = 6.4044 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37974 @ 0.00076 = 28.8602 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 502 @ 0.000763 = 0.383 BTC [+]
jurov: btw, mpex.co is still unavailable from here
Bowjob: now where is that mpoe havelock pt
jurov: maybe i fell into their new anti-ddos filter :(
mircea_popescu: there's a filter ?
mircea_popescu: "Evernote resets all passwords after user information stolen in security breach"
jurov: maybe they decided to start one... it's too specific and long-standing to be some routing issue
jurov: mircea, can you pls ask the datacenter or at least give me their email?
jurov: or whoever might be responsible
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure there's no such thing.
mircea_popescu: can you see trilema ?
jurov: nope
mircea_popescu: um
mircea_popescu: lesee, can you see ukavra.com ?
jurov: "You’ve found Pe fuga …"
mircea_popescu: ya well, that's in the same dc, so.
jurov: so, yes
mircea_popescu: try ditching your dns service provided by yiour isp and use google instead for a day
mircea_popescu: see if it clears it
jurov: look into the traceroute i put yest, if the ip is correct
mircea_popescu: gimme link again ?
jurov: http://bitbin.it/Malhw4h3
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134024.msg1493309#msg1493309
mircea_popescu: what a thread killer.
Bugpowder: Maybe this is a catchier headline... http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19jdmw/bitcoin_options_index_oix_price_sentiment/
mod6: frickin finally
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.59 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.588 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.56 = 3.12 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.56 = 4.68 BTC [-]
mod6: just got this huge problem fixed
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.55 = 6.2 BTC [-]
mod6: damn grails app was shitting the bed.
mircea_popescu: good for you
kakobrekla: in the news ...Bit4X Affiliate program
kakobrekla: http://bit4x.com/news.html
kakobrekla: is it clear?
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder pretty cool stuff
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla haha cool
mircea_popescu: sounds eerily familiar :D
kakobrekla: :DDD
kakobrekla: i admit.
mircea_popescu: "The bonuses may be withdrawn"
mircea_popescu: this makes it sound like it's taken away
kakobrekla: its not taken away, you just dont have the right to withdraw it before that
kakobrekla: its abuse protection
mircea_popescu: yeah i figure
kakobrekla: costs nothing to register unlike in your case
mircea_popescu: "To protect against the situation where someone deposits, gets the bonus and immediately withdraws this offer is only valid for accounts which trade at least X"
kakobrekla: ok sounds better
kakobrekla: gonna switch
kakobrekla: ty
mircea_popescu: np
error4733: what is the last div for asicminer ?
Bugpowder: you could have the bonus vest after x days or y trading volume
kakobrekla: hm, i guess so
kakobrekla: ah well it is what it is now
mircea_popescu: i read that as a bonus vest originally
mircea_popescu: and i was thinking whoa mmorpg
Bugpowder: up to 4th place
Bugpowder: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/
mircea_popescu: who;'s got a reddit acct ? vote the man's story!
Bugpowder: lol
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin Options Index (^OIX) price sentiment indicator hits all time high ($42.66 / BTC) (self.Bitcoin)
mircea_popescu: submitted 1 hour ago* by Bugpowder
mircea_popescu: commentshare
mircea_popescu: 6
mircea_popescu: 15
mircea_popescu: Bitcoins price sentiment at a bearish weekly high, still twice as many believe in higher prices within 6 months. You agree? (self.Bitcoin)
mircea_popescu: funny.
mircea_popescu: right next to each other.
Bugpowder: no link karma unfortunately
Bugpowder: Yah that dude has a little internet vote button
Bugpowder: yawn
mircea_popescu: what's a "bearish weekly high" ?!
Bugpowder: I couldn't figure it out
mircea_popescu: it's one of those cases where his point is like the puss in a zit
mircea_popescu: you're sure it must be in there somewhere, but you really don't want to dig it out
mircea_popescu: in other news, romanian politics (in english) : http://trilema.com/2013/no-seriously-not-much-of-a-priority-anymore/
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 7 @ 0.35 = 2.45 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 8 @ 0.3 = 2.4 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you're up 12 votes now, and check ouit the comment
jurov: too just looking on it
jurov: lol
Bugpowder: <sigh>
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.675 = 1.35 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: with a little luck the comment'll get more upvotes than the article itself
Bowjob: aight. my electrum wallet doesnt work wtf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00075923 = 12.1477 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1262 @ 0.00075924 = 0.9582 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10457 @ 0.000763 = 7.9787 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00076342 = 7.6342 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00076508 = 10.9024 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00076655 = 8.892 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00076844 = 7.6844 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.6799 = 1.3598 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00076944 = 8.8486 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 650 @ 0.2674139 = 173.819 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 27.06923527 / 42.61596516 / 44.80704907 (no shares, 12,332.19 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.19001, Best ask: 34.24800, Bid-ask spread: 0.05799, Last trade: 34.24800, 24 hour volume: 40994.03888350, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.88000, 24 hour vwap: 33.96591
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 12332.19*33.96
gribble: 418801.1724
mircea_popescu: this oix thing... it's actually pretty grounded
Bugpowder: I just wonder how much of the tracking of it to BTC price is due to the MPOE bot's algorithm vs. true market sentiment
Bugpowder: there is, of course, a limit to how far a put or call imbalance can push the OIX
Bugpowder: also, have you examined its predictive power?
mircea_popescu: actually, there was a point where the oix was pushed to like 90
mircea_popescu: the red horiz line on the graph
mircea_popescu: but how do you mean about mpoe bot ?
Bugpowder: was that near opex?
Bugpowder: whatever you call the option market making bot
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i think miodterm. i think it was on an otherwise empty book someone buying some weird far out call
Bugpowder: like at this time horizion out, even a 100-0 call put ratio can only push the OIX so high dependent on the call price
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0064 = 0.64 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Is the OIX the like CO2? A trailing indicator?
Bugpowder: :)
mod6: ahh, its in the vwap now :)
mod6: sweet
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder well, haerd to tell really.
mircea_popescu: what do you make of that graph ?
Bugpowder: it's highly correlated!
Bugpowder: you, or someone (or me) should look at it's predictive power
Bugpowder: is there historical option trade data available?
mircea_popescu: well, if you kept the logs...
mircea_popescu: tell you what, if you promise to write a good statistical analysis and publish it i'll send you the ~300 datapoints on that graph
mircea_popescu: daily oix and daily btc/usd vwap
Bugpowder: Let me consult with my statistical wizard friend
mircea_popescu: by all means.
jurov: to me it looks more just glorified call/put sold ratio
Bugpowder: of course if there IS predictive power
Bugpowder: maybe I don't want to publish ;)
jurov: because most of calls have same breakeven point, puts likewise
Bugpowder: jurov the C750T calls dont
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder the thing is, my bet is that there is predictive power of arbitrary precision for contiguous subsets
mircea_popescu: which are dispersed in the full dataset
mircea_popescu: it'd only be fair in the fucked sense that term takes in any natural science/
mircea_popescu: jurov they don't really have the same breakeven point
jurov: i found them being +- 1BTC
mircea_popescu: draw the graph if you will, it's a symetrical butterfly.
jurov: er... +-1USD
mircea_popescu: O.BTCUSD.P290T sells 0.14869039
mircea_popescu: O.BTCUSD.P590T sells 0.96290455
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 29 / (1 - 0.14869039)
gribble: 34.0651622622
mircea_popescu: eh my bad
ThickAsThieves: gonna try and explain bitcoin to the wife tomorrow...
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 29 / (1 + 0.14869039)
gribble: 25.2461413906
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 59 / (1 + 0.96290455)
gribble: 30.057498211
mircea_popescu: 5.
jurov: so,i remember wrong again.. maybe i considered just narrower range
mircea_popescu: O.BTCUSD.C290T = 0.32626257 ; O.BTCUSD.C590T = 0.06210314
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 29 / (1 - 0.32626257)
gribble: 43.0434746664
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 59 / (1 - 0.06210314)
gribble: 62.9067038352
mircea_popescu: 19
mircea_popescu: there's a very speciffic=looking graph of the options breakeven points if you calc them all out
thestringpuller: it's all pointing to 42
thestringpuller: imo
mircea_popescu: totally.
thestringpuller: :)
gribble: 1 BTC = 34.06157 U.S. dollars = 26.1649793 Euros
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136226300119.png
mircea_popescu: looking at it roughly : A totally took a bite of concrete, B sort of predicted something, but muchkly exaggerated.
mircea_popescu: C however actually predicts.
mircea_popescu: so maybe predictive power is actually monotonous.
mircea_popescu: monotonic*
mircea_popescu: also the crazyspike pre-A does sort of predict
gribble: 1 BTC = 34.02000 U.S. dollars = 26.1330466 Euros
Bugpowder: Hmmm.... Is this 24hprc?
mircea_popescu: yes
Bugpowder: A lot of the option purchases occur when there is a large divergence between realtime spot price and 24hprc
Bugpowder: in which case, we might be able to say (the spot price predicts future 24hprc)
Bugpowder: as filtered through options purchases.
mircea_popescu: this is not actually true tho.
mircea_popescu: for instance right now
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.10101, Best ask: 34.20462, Bid-ask spread: 0.10361, Last trade: 34.02000, 24 hour volume: 40252.89496290, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.88000, 24 hour vwap: 33.95090
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.00073 = 0.365 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the difference is small, yet i just sold 80% of the month's book
Bugpowder: that big option buy today is the exception that proves the rule
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.67 = 2.01 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: many times it was the case that large buys didn't match the theory
Bugpowder: bah
mircea_popescu: moreover, there was a huge differential for days till yest
Bugpowder: maybe
mircea_popescu: that yielded no actual purchases
Bugpowder: bah
Bugpowder: humbug
Bugpowder: ok
mircea_popescu: well it was a good theory, but i don't think it meets the data so far
Bugpowder: well MY options purchases occur during divergence periods
Bugpowder: hehehe
mircea_popescu: that's fine :)
mircea_popescu: but sometimes you made and sometimes you lost on that strategy
mircea_popescu: so in short i doubt the short term anything but weakly predicts the vwap
Bugpowder: It's available! http://imgur.com/UBC60Vf
Bugpowder: BITCOIN is not though
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 94 @ 0.002125 = 0.1998 BTC [+]
gribble: 1 BTC = 34.12900 U.S. dollars = 26.2167768 Euros
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7549 @ 0.00077 = 5.8127 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: sweet
Bugpowder: love getting SMS from localbitcoins.com
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7382 @ 0.00077 = 5.6841 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: haha for the tesla ?
Bugpowder: still working on that
Bugpowder: got a USB stick for that wallet
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.6 = 9.6 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: just waiting for coins to go up a bit more...
Bugpowder: yeah
Bugpowder: Also need to move to LA
Bugpowder: so you know, I can charge my car
Bugpowder: my bit car
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.674 = 13.48 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "Sums up this subreddit pretty well."
mircea_popescu: ahahaha wibn
mircea_popescu: who did that ?
mircea_popescu: jurov http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19jdmw/bitcoin_options_index_oix_price_sentiment/c8omekb
mircea_popescu: that's your guy.
jurov: hehe thx
jurov: i'm just engrossed deep into taming mktdepth data to be used in google spreadsheet
jurov: since namworld failed in that
jurov: or he just exhausted all time in making pretty background, dunno
kakobrekla: lol
Anduck: yea man listen him!
Anduck: remove 30btc fee and make it point + click
Anduck: and preferable drag&drop too
mircea_popescu: im too busy with http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134290700472.jpg
jurov: also, existing coinbr users may want to put their referral link there... but i may as well keep these 0.2% to myself :P
Bugpowder: oh my
Bugpowder: that's nice
thestringpuller: Images sent from mircea_popescu pie chart: http://i.imgur.com/1Y97ZnK.png
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller :D
kakobrekla: you are overestimating bitcoin part
kakobrekla: take of a zero.
Bugpowder: there is no overlap?
kakobrekla: off
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you take it off.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder yes there is. proof : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136026418899.jpg
kakobrekla: lol
Bugpowder: I liked the previous one 100,000,000% more
thestringpuller: He photobombed us with balls
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 110 @ 0.00610825 = 0.6719 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00610824 = 3.0541 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00610823 = 0.6108 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1747 @ 0.00601401 = 10.5065 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.00501, Best ask: 34.12401, Bid-ask spread: 0.11900, Last trade: 34.12401, 24 hour volume: 37039.65816349, 24 hour low: 33.15000, 24 hour high: 34.80800, 24 hour vwap: 33.87769
mircea_popescu: a well.
thestringpuller: when do satoshi dice dividends pay?
mircea_popescu: any day now.
mircea_popescu: anyway, off to play path of exile with my all-female clan. bbiab.
thestringpuller: You get some good potential sitcom/dark comedy plots in /r/BreakUps: http://www.reddit.com/r/BreakUps/comments/19jjeu/one_of_his_five_girlfriendsat_the_same_time/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00073887 = 11.8219 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5554 @ 0.00073886 = 4.1036 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96 @ 0.00073315 = 0.0704 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=134799.msg1576586#msg1576586
kakobrekla: kinda funny.
jurov: fuck, i forgot to run monthly fee :D
Bugpowde_: Wonder how much time he spent on that
thestringpuller: Bugpowda
thestringpuller: You are my favorite scientist atm. Bill Nye ain't got nuttin on you.
Bugpowde_: <3
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 85 @ 0.71002991 = 60.3525 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 225 @ 0.64837795 = 145.885 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 450 @ 0.58814383 = 264.6647 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 675 @ 0.52952177 = 357.4272 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 815 @ 0.47272814 = 385.2734 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 680 @ 0.41800212 = 284.2414 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 445 @ 0.36560587 = 162.6946 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 295 @ 0.31582454 = 93.1682 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 105 @ 0.26896955 = 28.2418 BTC [+]
jurov: ;;ticker m oix^
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
jurov: ;;ticker m ^oix
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
jurov: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 28.20780706 / 40.92334054 / 44.82313733 (no shares, 14,082.43 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
jurov: just 0.02 change?
Bugpowde_: shorting
Bugpowde_: ?
Bugpowde_: Bot buys don't count
jurov: why? only sells?
jurov: that's nonsense
Bugpowde_: Nprpreents double counting
Bugpowde_: Prevents
jurov: if i do split and short sell, that sell is counted in, no?
thestringpuller: (42 - 51) / 51
thestringpuller: ;;calc (42 - 51) / 51
gribble: -0.176470588235
Bugpowde_: Dunno
Bugpowde_: Those were real buys
Bugpowde_: Not shorts
jurov: it should have no regard where the options come from
jurov: anyway based on my spreadsheet shenanigans, the breakeven point is a bit different from real profitability
Bugpowde_: It moved over $2 btw
Bugpowde_: The calls only price didn't move
Bugpowde_: But tr joint price dropped to $40
jurov: from 44.80704907 -> 44.82313733
jurov: avg is the middle number? ah yes
thestringpuller: Topic jack: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100426131644AAKwLMj - discuss
Bugpowde_: Inhibitor23 reddit comment reeks of mp writing it
Bugpowde_: I never answer questions that end with "discuss"
Bugpowde_: Such a presumption that the question is worth discussion!
TradeFortress: Selling up to 100 ASICMINER shares, pm me with offers.
kakobrekla: 5btc
jurov: TradeFortress ask topace he's doing pt
jurov: or burnside?
TradeFortress: hmm I thought burnside had enough shares for now
thestringpuller: "mircea, if you were half as smart as you think you are, you wouldn't confuse coinbase and coinlab. you'd also have invented antigravity and a time machine, but that's beside the point." - whatcha have to say about that mr. popescu?
TradeFortress: but thanks jurov
jurov: ;;id denialdenial
gribble: Error: "id" is not a valid command.
denialdenial: what up yo
denialdenial: i let my slip show
thestringpuller: jurov: is my account just inactive? I don't have to register and blah blah blah aain no?
thestringpuller: again*
jurov: you don't have to do anything. but it's good to check just in case
denialdenial: y u ident me
denialdenial: i havve a new nick so waht want to fight about it
jurov: i remember paying out s.bvps to someone who has withdrawn everything (perhaps thinking he'll avoid monthly fee which isn't the case)
jurov: ;;dox denialdenial
gribble: Error: "dox" is not a valid command.
TradeFortress: lol
thestringpuller: that was me jurov
thestringpuller: SO
thestringpuller: what's that supposed to mean
thestringpuller: I'm going to have HUGE monthly fee?
thestringpuller: >:(
thestringpuller: IF and only if I were to ever go back.
jurov: as long as there's anything on your account (even if you have 0 btc), you pay
thestringpuller: congratulations! the first BTC Debt account ever created by moi cause I'm never logging back in if that's the case har har har
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 24 @ 0.20220992 = 4.853 BTC [-]
jurov: thestringpuller, i went to extra hassle to intimidate poor namworld into paying out
mjr_: hi all
kakobrekla: hi
jurov: and this is the result. in the future i'll just terminate the asset without any recompensation >:D
mjr_: thanks for following me :)
jurov: and refer everyone to thestringpuller :D
mjr_: @btcshares
thestringpuller: all the money that I had in conibr went to smickles
thestringpuller: so I will refer people to smickles
mjr_: you are bets of bitcoins right?
kakobrekla: no
mjr_: oh nvm
mjr_: thought that was a nickname for bbet
kakobrekla: bitbet?
kakobrekla: bets of bitcoins is some other site
jurov: thestringpuller, srsly. so you want to wipe the acct completely?
mjr_: yes, i see they are two different sites now
mjr_: hey jurov, sorry i am negative, should i liquidate a position or can we wait for s.dice dividends?
mjr_: i thought they would be in by now
jurov: they will be anytime till March 5
mjr_: k, if that is too long i can liquidate mpoe
mjr_: or i will just fund some more
TradeFortress: prehaps it's because S.DICE wants bigger dividends this month so they're delaying it until the 5th
mjr_: yeah, i'll fund some more, should be in by tomorrow morning, hopefully i can scoop up some more s.dice too lol
mjr_: TradeFortress: pretty sure they will just cut it off at the 28th and the rest goes toward next month
mjr_: i know that whole group is on a trip at the moment
mjr_: but from what i saw on a forum post, it seems they had a good month
TradeFortress: hmm yeah
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-anatomy-of-a-disaster/
mircea_popescu: <jurov> if i do split and short sell, that sell is counted in, no? << no. bot's sales only.
TradeFortress: LOL
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller : that's nice, my antigrav unit is humming quietly in the basement. now what ?
mjr_: lol nice post mp
mircea_popescu: i bet.
mircea_popescu: <TradeFortress> prehaps it's because S.DICE wants bigger dividends this month so they're delaying it until the 5th << that's not how it works, divs are for feb
thestringpuller: voorhees is busy atm
thestringpuller: just like everyone
TradeFortress: mircea_popescu, yeah, I get it now
TradeFortress: :)
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
mircea_popescu: 4:1 for. i wonder
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 38 @ 0.006296 = 0.2392 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: EDIT: I found a formula which is almost correct for WEIGHT > 3000, it is:
mircea_popescu: Reward = TOTAL * 0.99 * MY_BET * SQRT(LOG(WEIGHT))*WEIGHT^(1/6.0) / Sum_all(winning_bets * SQRT(LOG(WEIGHT))*WEIGHT^(1/6.0))
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla dude that's rad.
kakobrekla: :DD
mircea_popescu: he actually interpolated with logs and whatnot ?!
kakobrekla: yeah i was liek wtf mate
mircea_popescu: at least he doesn't have cauchy operators in there
mircea_popescu: or like, wave functions.
kakobrekla: :)
kakobrekla: maybe even rand()
mircea_popescu: stfu giving away secret bitbet sauce like that
kakobrekla: ;)
mircea_popescu: "This is awesome! I didn't even know such an exchange existed."
mircea_popescu: reddit.
jurov: maybe that dude ran critticall over bbet data
TradeFortress: reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19jdmw/bitcoin_options_index_oix_price_sentiment/c8ol2c0
mjr_: lol, this is the best irc channel ever
mjr_: someone should really make a tv show about bitcoin...the drama lol
mircea_popescu: TradeFortress yea totally.
mircea_popescu: mjr_ it is!
mjr_: note to self: start writing pilot based on bitcoins
jurov: er... plot?
mircea_popescu: jurov like seinfeld.
mjr_: no pilot
mjr_: pilot episode for people to watch and decide to buy a season
mjr_: not that i have ever done that
mjr_: but hey how hard can it be right lol
mjr_: maybe go straight to netflix or something
jurov: i recommend it to involve satoshi building it all only for him be able to raise money for clay mugs workshop and troll around
mircea_popescu: i'd like to do a porny show.
mircea_popescu: it'd be a sitcum
mjr_: HAHAHA
mircea_popescu: sadly i don't have the time / it doesn't pay enough
mjr_: you know what they say...
mjr_: the man who does what he loves never works a day in his ligfe
TradeFortress: Unexpected token )
TradeFortress: fuuu
mircea_popescu: but srsly, the funny life of this guy who lives with like, 5 chicks.
mircea_popescu: that are naked while indoors
mircea_popescu: and sometimes outdoors
mircea_popescu: and sometimes wear strange contraptions
mjr_: if anyone wants to see a really crappy website, feel free to check out btcshares.com
mjr_: its basically just a placeholder
jurov: and judging from the photos, never wear hair
mjr_: for now
mircea_popescu: did TradeFortress make it ?
mjr_: nope, yours truly
mircea_popescu: jurov notice that all hair is wet ?
mjr_: 100% mjr original
TradeFortress: what?
mjr_: except for all the copying and pasting
mircea_popescu: lmao welcome to donate bitcoin
mircea_popescu: that's a concept
mjr_: hahaha
mjr_: yes
mjr_: that is the service i provide
mjr_: a place to donate bitcoins to me
mircea_popescu: it's also not alligned
mjr_: i know
mjr_: which is extremely annoying to me
mjr_: like i said, placeholder
mjr_: i worked on all the backend stuff today
mjr_: tomorrow i try to do design stuff
jurov: data-address="1LokQrHj14NU93tC6pZfTZyyRHhAVakQmX"
mjr_: but i set up twitter, email, admin stuff...and got the website online
jurov: i stole ya address
TradeFortress: mjr_ doesn't even change the cursor
mjr_: tomorrow we design
mircea_popescu: TradeFortress just jabbing at you re your forum encounter
mjr_: which cursor?
mjr_: oh for the donate button?
TradeFortress: yup
mjr_: yeah, well, i included that only to try it out
mjr_: and cuz i wanted to get the btcshares label for an address
TradeFortress: mircea_popescu, lol
mjr_: although maybe i will try to get a vanity address
mjr_: i made that site in under an hour just to test switching domain stuff and getting dns in order
mjr_: like 5 min might be more accurate as far as design and aesthetics
jurov: do you sell ads?
mjr_: no
mjr_: don't plan on it
mjr_: i plan on just hosting my performance and financials there
mircea_popescu: are you in the wot ?
mjr_: eventually
mjr_: i am not as of yhet
mircea_popescu: do that first.
mjr_: good idea
mjr_: how do you establish trust though?
mjr_: i am not going to trade at all
mjr_: i just use exchanges
mircea_popescu: performance as financials as to what then ?
mjr_: oh, i am getting $ clients
mjr_: people who know about bitcoins probbably can figure it out for themselves
mjr_: but old people with cash can't
jurov: mjr_ if you use coinbr you can ask me to look up. i'll then rate you like "-10 did not pay coinbr monthly fee"
mjr_: lol
mjr_: true
mjr_: although to be fair i paid most of it so far
mircea_popescu: mjr_ lisrten, that's half of the story. what do you do with the bitcoins ?
mjr_: s.dice
mjr_: mpoe
mjr_: options
mjr_: etc
mircea_popescu: so suppose one day you loan some shares out to someone
mircea_popescu: rated.
mjr_: hopefully lend them
mircea_popescu: some other day maybe you borrow.
BitHub: i currently do this for older or newb people as well
mircea_popescu: rated.
mircea_popescu: etc.
mjr_: yes very true
mjr_: i will need it
mjr_: and i will probably eventually need a seat on mpex
BitHub: i charge a 10% helpers fee
mjr_: i also have a mining operation getting under way
mjr_: FPGA's...
mjr_: but not little puny ones
mjr_: BIG ones
mjr_: hoping for 10GH per card
mircea_popescu: um
mircea_popescu: which cards are these ?
BitHub: make sure you try ordering from BFL labs today
mjr_: start with 3 cards...not the best, but still half an avalon almost
mjr_: Virtex-6's
mjr_: way larger than spartans or altera's
mjr_: 40nm process
mjr_: hoping for 10gh per
mircea_popescu: i dunno if i'd buy new fpga's today tho
mjr_: maybe overly optimistic
mjr_: lol, buy
mircea_popescu: but if used and a good price i guess may be a good deal
mjr_: free and sitting around
mjr_: no electricity
mircea_popescu: o that works
mjr_: yep
jurov: mjr_ there's sometimes a good deal on -otc too, i got amazon codes, small paypal payments and like
mjr_: 3 of those, plus maybe one virtex 5 if worth it
mjr_: jurov: good point
mircea_popescu: he has a point. also, you'd think i'd never trade. yet recently i got like a dozen sa gift certs.
mircea_popescu: it was nice and easy
mjr_: what is sa?
mircea_popescu: some forum
jurov: haha
mjr_: oh yeah i remember
mjr_: lol
mjr_: that was funny
mjr_: anyways, i have 3 small projects and one big one
jurov: the bitch ain't one
mircea_popescu: ;;eauth mircea_popescu
gribble: Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452
mjr_: the fpga miners, the boutique hedge fund, and a bitcoin horseracing sitte
mjr_: the big one...is big
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:651ee0e4570cc2d14ea53173c276c5bce82d794a92202d3779ffbf90
gribble: You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452
mircea_popescu: ;;rate kakobrekla 5 too much stuff to list. inquire within.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 3 to 5.
mircea_popescu: ;;rated nefario
gribble: You rated user nefario on Tue Sep 25 02:55:21 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: runs a scammy btc securities exchange . associated with the bitcoin consultancy scammer group..
mircea_popescu: whoa i got him early.
mjr_: who is nefario?
mircea_popescu: ;;rated davout
gribble: You rated user davout on Sat Dec 8 05:09:24 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: bitcoin-central.net paymium etc.
jurov: mjr_ do you know about glbse? he was its owner
mircea_popescu: ;;rate davout 3 bitcoin-central.net paymium etc.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user davout has changed from 1 to 3.
mjr_: oh yea
mjr_: i heard about that
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 180 @ 0.006296 = 1.1333 BTC [-]
mjr_: asicminer is from there right?
mjr_: just starting to get everything back together from what i read
mjr_: mircea do you ever use btc-e?
mjr_: or anyone else for that matter...
mircea_popescu: i never used btc-e
jurov: mjr_ only for small litecoin trades
mircea_popescu: if i used anything it'd prolly be davout's ting
mircea_popescu: ;;rated jurov
gribble: You rated user jurov on Fri Sep 28 03:13:37 2012, giving him a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: runs coinbr.com, MPEx broker website.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate jurov 4 runs coinbr.com, MPEx broker website.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user jurov has changed from 3 to 4.
mjr_: lol nice $17 spread
jurov: where?
mjr_: on bitcoin central
mjr_: only ask is at $47
mircea_popescu: what srsly ?
mjr_: bids at 30
mjr_: yep
mircea_popescu: mjr_ they're euro tho
mjr_: no
mjr_: i switched to dollars
mjr_: oh i get what you mean
mircea_popescu: well their dollar market has like... no epth
mjr_: very small dollar volume
mjr_: ah yeah, their euro book is a lot better
mircea_popescu: inexplicably they have little euro depth too
mjr_: well yeah, but better than dollar for sure
mircea_popescu: but they seem to me more trustworthy than anyone else on the strength of actually getting the bank partnerships right
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why uptake so low.
mjr_: well, i hope to change that
mjr_: working on an aggregated order book...and then hopefully a routing and matching engine
mjr_: that is the big thing
mjr_: hoping to get a big source of volume soon
mjr_: open up a new market
mjr_: and need to provide a steady access to all markets to convince them
mjr_: that is basically what my company already does for equity markets in US
mjr_: routing and flow
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.00996 = 0.1992 BTC [-]
mjr_: buy from this dark pool, sell on that one
mjr_: etc
mjr_: so if someone would just do that for btc it would make everyone's lives a lot easier
mircea_popescu: you can probably handle it on otc if you know the rifght people
mircea_popescu: which is what makes your wot suddenly crucial for your success.
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.008299 = 0.0581 BTC [-]
mjr_: well, its all about automating it
mircea_popescu: not until you've made your contacts it isn't.
mjr_: well, my partner is working on the order flow
mjr_: and we already have some sick back end infrastructure
mjr_: data center colocation etc
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is primarily about who you know.
mjr_: and some really nice enterprise level matching engine and algorithmic trading unit
mjr_: and yes it
mjr_: is
mjr_: i def do need WoT
mjr_: can i work on it tomorrow?
mjr_: if you guys are around?
jurov: tomorrow is sunday, we're closed
jurov: :P
mircea_popescu: lol you just need the bot
mjr_: lol
mjr_: i mean, what address should i use?
mjr_: should i maintain a separate one for business and personal?
jurov: mjr_ i think most of us have one common address/privkey
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.66 = 9.9 BTC [-]
jurov: and it isn't clear to me why/how would you want to manage separate webs of trust
mjr_: well
mjr_: i mean as long as i run my business it would be important for me to have a high wot rating
mjr_: but if i were to leave...i couldn't leave it to someone else
BitHub: it depends
mjr_: could i?
BitHub: is your business pandering hard to the community or mainstream?
mjr_: mainstream
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11129 @ 0.0007449 = 8.29 BTC [+]
BitHub: then i wouldn't worry about WOT so much
mjr_: well, still important
BitHub: to the community
mjr_: even from marketing perspective
BitHub: mainstream have no clue about it
mjr_: of course
mjr_: but you know how people list stuff on websites
mjr_: and i may need to do stuff using otc
BitHub: yeah
mjr_: but would rather my corporate persona was the one who had the trust
mjr_: i don't plan on doing a lot personally
BitHub: don't get caught up in a rating war tho
mjr_: yeah
BitHub: could be damaging to business rep
mjr_: true
mjr_: like i said, i haven't used otc yet
mjr_: and maybe i might toy with it
mjr_: but i want computers to deal with stuff like that
jurov: we'll see how it goes. dunno if there was anyone who maintained corporate persona on wot
mjr_: the matching engine and such
mjr_: yeah, i kind of like how it is very personal here
BitHub: yeah there's no point
BitHub: better off having a customer feedback thing on your site or osmething
BitHub: quotes from mainstream professionals
mjr_: well, as i said, my goal is to be a layer between a big mainstream source and a bunch of exchanges
BitHub: "wow this site is really good" Mark Cuban
mjr_: ideally the mainstream end users wouldn't even be aware of me
BitHub: compared to
BitHub: +1 yeah we had a good trade - BitHub
mjr_: there are some companies that have 20-30k accounts
mjr_: and all those guys do is trade forex
mjr_: but they would need a STRONG source of liquidity
mjr_: and the best bids and asks
BitHub: BitHub is currently building infrastructure, investing and networking within the Bitcoin community and the Mainstream to bridge the two together to provide a very straight forward, trustworthy, professional services.
mjr_: and enterprise level hardware with some big financial people behind it
mjr_: yeah that is the goal right
mjr_: i have been disheartened by how hard it is for people on wall street to get in the game
mjr_: for example
mjr_: traders at my firm have half a mill to play with at work
BitHub: isn't it about to get alot easier for them
BitHub: via coinlab
mjr_: yeah...believe it when i see it
BitHub: or tell your wall street buddies to buy into a bitcoin company
mjr_: not to mention...it would just be a mt gox pass through
mjr_: prop traders
mjr_: they don't own their positions
mjr_: and they trade with high leverage
mjr_: intra day
BitHub: that's where you come in my friend as a Bitcoin Broker and you do it for these people and charge them a broker fee
mjr_: they couldn't invest outside of work
BitHub: don't teach them
mjr_: yes
mjr_: true
mjr_: but they can't press buttons to make bitcoins appear on their screens
BitHub: outsource some helpers from china
mjr_: and till someone makes it so that you can use etrade (def not what we use) or like a sterling or laser type platform
BitHub: they don't need to, they just go to your site, type in a code or whatever and can see their balance
mjr_: professional traders can't get involved
mjr_: i mean, their accounts with their money can't connect to my website
mjr_: and it isn't really their website
mjr_: i mean their money
mjr_: they get to trade with 20x or more leverage
BitHub: cant you set up your own bank account and get these people to dump the fiat in there?
mjr_: but they leave all that at the office
BitHub: and then you make the bitcoin buys for them?
mjr_: i would love to
mjr_: but again
mjr_: basically they have to use their trading accounts
mjr_: and their trading accounts connect to nyse, nasdaq, edgea, edgex, bats etc
mjr_: so they can buy stuff from there
mjr_: and that's all
BitHub: i see
jurov: mjr_ have you seen bit4x.com or 1broker.com ?
mjr_: and that is how most of finance is
BitHub: so you need a bitcoin platform that can kind of plug into that exisiting platform?
mjr_: yes
BitHub: because they're using their coporate trading accounts
mjr_: i need them to be able to plug in bloomberg
mjr_: or whatever
BitHub: which is like really big money
mjr_: yes
mjr_: if they open up their own accounts it might be 500
mjr_: their professional accounts might be over 1 mill
BitHub: 500g's?
BitHub: jesus
mjr_: no $500
BitHub: oh
mjr_: traders don't do it at home
mjr_: or maybe a little
mjr_: but again typically with their 401k or their investment account
mjr_: the goal for me is to not make them open up a new account
thestringpuller: what the fuck are you all on about?
BitHub: hmmm follow the coinlab stuff
mjr_: but rather give them something to buy with their existing accounts
mjr_: i've been watching
BitHub: maybe you can act as a broker for them via that site
BitHub: so they only have to deal with you
mjr_: too long; didn't read: wall street professionals don't open up new accounts for all their trades, they use their existing high margin accounts
mjr_: that's the goal for the platform, plug into existing infrastructure
mjr_: and become the gateway for that infrastructure to the bitcoin world
BitHub: but the exisiting infrastructure its not like you could plug gox right into it yeah?
mjr_: nope
mjr_: not as of yet
BitHub: there's alot of licences, government approval wallstreet approval etc etc
mjr_: well yeah
Ukto: BitHub: I wouldtn btoher with coinlab
mjr_: but it is mostly a matter of getting the deal
Ukto: there will be other options for gox
Ukto: before their thing hits
mjr_: yeah
Ukto: trust me on this. ;)
BitHub: Ukto ;)
mjr_: my point is that everyone doesn't use nasdaq to trade aapl
BitHub: we talked about it yesterday
mjr_: even though aapl is listed on nasdaq
mjr_: i can buy aapl on any one of a ton of differrent venues
mjr_: and they all have different fees, volume, prices
mjr_: so i can pick and choose
mjr_: so someone has to offer choices and volume
mjr_: its a long tough road i think
mjr_: which is why i am more excited abvout my small easy projects
mjr_: which are already coming together
mjr_: lol build a miner
mjr_: when i showed a trader what i was doing, he was like "why aren't you scalping this all day, like do it right now"
BitHub: so i dont understand the problem
BitHub: why they cant buy bitcoins using their coporate accounts
mjr_: well
mjr_: lets go through it
mjr_: of course they have no way of sending an electronic order
mjr_: so let's say they call me
mjr_: because they trust me
BitHub: or do an order via your site
BitHub: if you had a live chat option like i do
mjr_: and say hey, i wanna get 1000 btc right now, what kind of price am i looking at?
mjr_: let's assume i actually had the market data to tell them
mjr_: looking at all the exchanges and finding the best price
BitHub: okey
mjr_: ok, i wanna buy it
mjr_: give me the money
BitHub: it would probably just be based on mtgox price
mjr_: ok, well, i have to wire the money out of my account, and then i have to wire you the money
mjr_: ok see you in 5 days then
mjr_: see the problem?
BitHub: you cant float it for him?
mjr_: i suppose i could
BitHub: lul
mjr_: but not at that amount
mjr_: and not in any way that would make me money
mjr_: the point is to be able to use the existing accounts so i don't hve to worry about their funding
BitHub: start off baby steps
BitHub: start with 1000 dollar limit maybe
mjr_: since funding is always the worst part of bitcoin trading
mjr_: mt. gox...10+ days to verify using dwolla
BitHub: let me tell you a secret
BitHub: i buy outside of mtgox and its always cheaper than the current market price at that time
mjr_: and again, they just did a trade with their own money and it didn't really relate to their job at all
mjr_: yeah of course
mjr_: but speed is the key here
mjr_: and also, your P&L will show your account
mjr_: not what you do with some person outside of the system
mjr_: ie. you want to have this be a trade done as part of their profession, not as a side job or something
BitHub: you need direct relationships with miners
mjr_: true
mjr_: that is the synergy with the fpga project i have going on
BitHub: or set up a seperate branch to your company that's strickly a bitcoin mining company
mjr_: if i can get the equivalent of half an avalon
mjr_: it'll be a nice little start
mjr_: but suffice it to say
BitHub: and you can start writing off equipment and electricity against your bitcoin mining company
mjr_: lol, no cost equipment or electricity
mjr_: but yeah
mjr_: i see your point
mjr_: what i am planning on doing
mjr_: and what we are working on
mjr_: is a symbol on a platform where people already trade dollars, euros, pounds and yen
mjr_: so now it is dollars, euros, pounds yen and bitcoins
mjr_: ie. i don't have to worry abourt your funding, or settlement, i just worry about executing orders against the bitcoin exchanges
mjr_: and collecting fees
BitHub: sounds good
thestringpuller: I'm taking preorders for bitcoin beer.
mjr_: their forex company, who has said they are interested, would take care of the accounts, but they would offer one more symbol for their traders
BitHub: so you're actually working on software?
mjr_: we have a top tier software system in place
mjr_: lol
mjr_: my boss at my day job called it "a ferrari on a dirt road" lol
BitHub: haha nice
BitHub: sounds good and a bit crazy what you're doing, keep my updated :)
BitHub: me
mjr_: yeah, but it basically would have like a matching engine so say account #25671 wants to buy and account #12543 wants to sell, it can match them internally, saving us the fees from mt. gox or wherever
mjr_: that is internalization
mjr_: with 30k accounts...we can prob do quite a bit of internalization
mjr_: and with volume, we can lower our rates at gox, and cut better deals with others
BitHub: just you know whatever you do, don't let those guys ruin bitcoin hey?
mjr_: of course not
mjr_: i want them to see this as an introduction
mjr_: so they start using it in everyday life
mjr_: AND, if it works, get interviewed on CNBC
mjr_: lol
BitHub: :)
mjr_: and that day
mjr_: my little boutique tiny hedge fund will post some amazing gains
BitHub: how far off are you?
BitHub: 1 year?
mjr_: well...not sure, we got the software and the servers and the location
mjr_: my partner/boss is meeting with those guys for our company (day job) but also selling them on this idea (our own side thing)
BitHub: based in the usa?
mjr_: NYC
mjr_: so, if our deal goes through
BitHub: yeah of course heh nyc exchange
mjr_: for my day job
mjr_: it is fairly reasonable odds that this other thing goes through
mjr_: providing we can deliver a stable good source of liquidity to them
mjr_: so i am mostly working on that right now
mjr_: i think its probably 50/50 at best that it'd done in a year
mircea_popescu: what's your idea of liquidity ?
mjr_: depends, i am not exactly sure what the demand would be
BitHub: i'm still a startup myself trying to figure this stuff out, based in Australia / Asia check us out sometime - bithub.asia bithub.com.au bithub.biz
mjr_: but ideally, they could move large amounts of money relatively quickly and without too much slippage
mjr_: very cool BitHub
mjr_: i'm definitely hoping to partner with people in some way or another in the future
mjr_: if they can provide access to markets
mjr_: i would really like to work with bitfloor since they are NYC based, but i would like to have routes everywhere
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+]
mjr_: also i could hopefully leave orders on bitfloors books to get liquidity rebates
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 250 @ 0.006296 = 1.574 BTC [-]
BitHub: btw does anyone have any of those ASICMINER shares?
jurov: here someone was offering just few hrs ago
jurov: <TradeFortress> Selling up to 100 ASICMINER shares, pm me with offers.
mjr_: darn
mjr_: i missed that
mjr_: actually talked to him too
mjr_: i would love to pick up some
mjr_: lol whats funny is that that company is more like a private equity thing than public company
mjr_: people always making back room deals and stuff
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/bitbet-february-2013-statement/
mircea_popescu: updated with nice graph
BitHub: mjr i'm all about partnering up and collaboration if you want help or access to australian/asian markets in the future, lets hook it up :)
mjr_: k guys gotta run
mjr_: def
mjr_: good talking to you all
mjr_: best channel on IRC bar none
mircea_popescu: jurov for my curiosity, the guy on reddit that "couldn't waiot" till another nonfee exchange opened
mircea_popescu: and then got all excited about coinbr
mircea_popescu: did he perchance actually make an account ?
jurov: maybe, he did not let me know
mircea_popescu: twitter "Why do the same people that say A baby in the womb is not life Say bacteria is considered "life" on Mars?"
mircea_popescu: me "Because there's plenty of wombs and scarcely any bacteria on Mars. Abundance cheapens."
mircea_popescu: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kC5MT2r5U8s/TBk0BAwNKkI/AAAAAAAAPLw/5wYilxC2V2c/s1600/nuke+explosion.jpg
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 24 @ 0.00643 = 0.1543 BTC [+]
TradeFortress: ^ lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00580008 = 5.8001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00580007 = 2.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00580006 = 2.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 38 @ 0.00580004 = 0.2204 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00580004 = 2.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00580002 = 11.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00580002 = 29.0001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00577614 = 11.5523 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00569655 = 11.3931 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550002 = 5.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: hmmm
kakobrekla: maybe that ian baked got some shares to sell
Bugpowder: lol
Bugpowder: .0055 pre div is pretty nice
Bugpowder: wish I had a bid up
Ukto: kakobrekla: he wants a large price :)
kakobrekla: hm?
Ukto: ian
kakobrekla: how much does he want?
Ukto: was very high is what I was told
kakobrekla: no number?
kakobrekla: http://shrani.si/f/l/uy/1RdE4K2G/sdice.png
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00077011 = 7.7011 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00077012 = 0.3851 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0055 = 2.2 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: Ukto
thestringpuller: You stole my coins
Ukto: 0,o
thestringpuller: ;;getrating Ukto
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Ukto, rated since Tue Jun 14 21:24:56 2011. Cumulative rating 17, from 12 total ratings. Received ratings: 12 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Ukto
Ukto: I deed?
thestringpuller: jkjk
Ukto: hehe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00076144 = 1.4467 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00500051 = 10.001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 23879 @ 0.0050005 = 119.4069 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: hehe
Bugpowder: YES
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0055 = 3.3 BTC [+]
pizzaman1337: why yes?
Bugpowder: my bid got hit
pizzaman1337: ah
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 16121 @ 0.0050005 = 80.6131 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00500002 = 1.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00500001 = 2 BTC [-]
pizzaman1337: when do S.DICE divs come out?
Bugpowder: soon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 40000 @ 0.0050005 = 200.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00500002 = 5 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: oh shyt
pizzaman1337: that's a lot of movement
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00500001 / 0.00529899 / 0.0063777 (116945 shares, 619.69 BTC), 7D: 0.00500001 / 0.00595337 / 0.0063799 (353812 shares, 2,106.38 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.0060038 / 0.007395 (6898878 shares, 41,419.50 BTC)
Bugpowder: I'm out of powder
pizzaman1337: just don't run out of bugs
Bugpowder: lol
Bugpowder: will it actually dump below .005?
kakobrekla: http://shrani.si/f/k/IK/1ptRixZ7/sdice.png
kakobrekla: its fun to watch rt :)
Bugpowder: Even with no whale, I think S.DICE is worth .005
mircea_popescu: pts are missing out lol
kakobrekla: at least mpex is not closed on the weekend, right pizzaman1337 ;)
pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: yeah, rest of the world is closed
Bugpowder: ;;calc .000133/.005
gribble: 0.0266
pizzaman1337: is that what percentage the dividend will be if the price is at 5?
Bugpowder: yes
Bugpowder: I also believe that the whale lives
Bugpowder: with a different address allocation strategy
mircea_popescu: remarkably sparse book on s.dice
mircea_popescu: 0.00637769 64`615 / 13`131 0.00444440
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: damn
Bugpowder: need more coins
pizzaman1337: don't we all
Bugpowder: someone really wants to dump a big load
Bugpowder: but not below .005
Bugpowder: aha
Bugpowder: the 637k ask wall is gone
mircea_popescu: ya seems like someone putting in a wall at 50 would prolly get a good chunk
Bugpowder: must be that guy
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "How you gonna choke a legend ? You don't think I want to choke people ? You can't just choke all your problems, it takes hard work. If I had my way, I'd never work. I could stay home all day watch Scarface 50 times, eat a turkey sandwich and have sex all fuckin day. Then I'd dress up like a clown and surprise kids at schools. Then I'd take a dump in the back of a movie theater and just wait til s
Bugpowder: yup
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.66 = 2.64 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I'm gonna be sad if he drops to .004
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4537 @ 0.00077012 = 3.494 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5963 @ 0.00077014 = 4.5923 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: quick someone by the fucking x.idiff.mar
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I'm selling for fucking .0599
Bugpowder: a steal
thestringpuller: what's your X.IDIFF priced?
mircea_popescu: how;'s it gonna get to 6mn ?!
mircea_popescu: it has one retarget till then, and it's not going up 200%
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6431 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: SHUT UP
Bugpowder: !!
mircea_popescu: lol
Bugpowder: It could retarget twice
Bugpowder: if the hash rate really ramps up
mircea_popescu: well sure, if we go to like 50 Ph
Bugpowder: only really needs to double
Bugpowder: right after next diff
mircea_popescu: next diff is in like 2 weeks-ish
Bugpowder: yes
pigeons: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4555697.65506 based on data since last change | 4400318.08082 based on data for last three days
Bugpowder: Mar 14
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: oh fuk
pigeons: ;;nextdiff
gribble: Error: "nextdiff" is not a valid command.
Bugpowder: he is gonna dump
Bugpowder: I can feel it
kakobrekla: no
kakobrekla: dude leave 100 shares
kakobrekla: leaves
kakobrekla: each time
kakobrekla: lol
kakobrekla: at 5
kakobrekla: well maybe he is going to lose patience
kakobrekla: lets get ready or smth
mircea_popescu: back to .00008
mircea_popescu: or w/e da fguck it was
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.643 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.642001 = 1.284 BTC [-]
pizzaman1337: let's have some fun, I put 1 S.DICE buy on the book... maybe he'll take it :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00500001 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: im setting a few
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 99 @ 0.00500001 = 0.495 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00500001 BTC [-]
pizzaman1337: :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00500001 = 4.5 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: heh
Bugpowder: won't go below .005
Bugpowder: lets test his will
pizzaman1337: or below 0.00500001
kakobrekla: see again he left 100 sitting there
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: lets pull a trick
Bugpowder: that's weird
Bugpowder: that is botlink
Bugpowder: botlike
kakobrekla: nah
pizzaman1337: kakobrekla: is that your 0.00499999?
Bugpowder: mine
Bugpowder: :)
thestringpuller: ;;bc,stats
kakobrekla: let me try smth see if it works
gribble: Current Blocks: 223988 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1803 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 0 hours, 28 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4550550.25106 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.18222
thestringpuller: wow
mircea_popescu: i wonder if like 20 years from now when s.dice is like better than microsoft
Bugpowder: 500,000 shadow S.DICE shares being sold at .005
mircea_popescu: people will look back to like, 10k btc pizza moment
Bugpowder: http://heliacal.net/~solar/bitcoin/pizza/
pizzaman1337: nobody is keeping track of trades, are they? Besides on twitter
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00500001 = 2 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: oooo
Bugpowder: tempted to deposit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00500001 = 4.5 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: fuck
mircea_popescu: wha ?
kakobrekla: i missed it
kakobrekla: that cocksucker leaves 100 shares there
kakobrekla: from the last order
kakobrekla: i wanted to get mine hit and cancel it
kakobrekla: before new one comes
kakobrekla: so there is nothing at 5
kakobrekla: was too late
kakobrekla: somebody placed it after me and mine leftover was hit
kakobrekla: now someone else has a leftover
pigeons: ok canceled it
mircea_popescu: lol
kakobrekla: rofl
kakobrekla: i see
kakobrekla: now lets see if he drops
pizzaman1337: I wonder if the seller is in this room, watching amused
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.005 = 2 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ok time to rollback all trades
thestringpuller: stop cheating
mircea_popescu: lol
Bugpowder: my .00499999 gonna get hit?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00499999 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: THERE
Bugpowder: oh my
mircea_popescu: lol
Bugpowder: who bought it?
kakobrekla: you did?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00599993 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: heheh
Bugpowder: BOUNCE
mircea_popescu: lol
pizzaman1337: that was the share I bought earlier
kakobrekla: scalpin the mpex spread with 1sd share
pizzaman1337: profit! :P
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0048 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: a
Bugpowder: now its getting serious
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00599994 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: who is trolling
kakobrekla: lol
mircea_popescu: dudes keep filling my db with bs
thestringpuller: fuck yo db
mircea_popescu: ima implement the eu tx fee
pizzaman1337: no, that'd be lame
mircea_popescu: except keep the proceeds for buying ho's skimpy outfits
pizzaman1337: you need to distribute those outfits among shareholders
pigeons: prolly wont fit me tho
kakobrekla: 100@0.00500001
kakobrekla: im thinking its himself.
mircea_popescu: ha
mircea_popescu: that's a thought, somebody trying to cause a panic to load up
Bugpowder: most likely
Bugpowder: nah
Bugpowder: not a panic
pizzaman1337: right before a div?
Bugpowder: but the 100 bid
kakobrekla: ya
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder nah ?! that's exactly what you would say
mircea_popescu: IF YOU WERE DOING IT
mircea_popescu: konspiraci
kakobrekla: :D
Bugpowder: I dumped my dice when I figured out no whale
mircea_popescu: also in the news, i ate out today.
Bugpowder: I bought some back when I found another network of 10,000+ coins
pigeons: it probably is him cause the other 500001's were me and this one isnt
mircea_popescu: law here is you can use receipts for deductions if < 100 lei per.
mircea_popescu: so i told the waitress to split up my bill accordingly.
mircea_popescu: she came up with three things.
mircea_popescu: first was a total of 69
pigeons: i figured i'll buy at that price and take the div
mircea_popescu: 2nd was a total of 69
mircea_popescu: third was a total of... 69.
Bugpowder: 69 is a restricted number on california license plates
Bugpowder: only cars from 1969 can use it
mircea_popescu: lol!
Bugpowder: I learned this today when checking custom plates
mircea_popescu: what you're serious ?!
Bugpowder: yes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00550001 = 0.55 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/ipp2/initPers.do
Bugpowder: look it up
mircea_popescu: this is why that country is going to shit
mircea_popescu: too many dumbass "rules".
Bugpowder: Is deprived on IRC?
Bugpowder: he seems awefully well informed for not being on irc
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder pretty much the only guy with a clue outside of irc
mircea_popescu: ;;seen deprived
gribble: I have not seen deprived.
ThickAssLaptop: Deprived doesnt do IRC
mircea_popescu: he does show up ocasionally tho, we've chatted
ThickAssLaptop: i asked him
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00996 BTC [-]
ThickAssLaptop: Deprived knows his shit, runs some great ltc assets
runeks: DAMN. this one is taken. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/wasapp/ipp2/processPers.do?plateChar0=H&plateChar1=8&plateChar2=S&plateChar3=G&plateChar4=N&plateChar5=H&plateChar6=8
Bugpowder: H8SGNH8?
mircea_popescu: try P4NT1E5
runeks: Bugpowder: yes, I was going to get H8RSGNH8, but there's a 7 character limit
runeks: mircea_popescu: I bet that wouldn't be allowed. I mean if they ban 69...
mircea_popescu: wait. panties aren't allowed ?
mircea_popescu: gotta go commando now ?
runeks: mircea_popescu: dunno. I'm just guessing.
swhitt: there was some dude that had CUN7 or something in west virginia
swhitt: crazy west virginians.
runeks: it's always west virginians
mircea_popescu: there should be a law all virginians must be named Ian
swhitt: Ian doesn't sound very west virginian
mircea_popescu: Virgin Ian ?
swhitt: haha
mircea_popescu: anyway, what's the big deal, some dork has CUNT on his license plate. so who cares.
mircea_popescu: "yes officer, i saw it, was a pink and green 1971 pontiac with CUNT license plates"
swhitt: http://instantrimshot.com/
swhitt: it's america so everyone without anything else to do decides they have to care
swhitt: and start a crusade against it
mircea_popescu: sad state of affairs.
swhitt: indeed
mircea_popescu: i blame men.
mircea_popescu: women that don't get fucked often enough and raw enough get bored
mircea_popescu: and a bored woman is the bane of all government.
swhitt: you'd do wonderfully in american politics :)
mircea_popescu: i bet.
swhitt: probably'd get ~50% of the vote
mircea_popescu: as long as i'm counting them i ain't getting under 90
swhitt: blame it on the hanging chad
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/23/where-are-they-now-the-hanging-chad-guy/
swhitt: anyone have any bets on whom one should bet ~$20k on for asic hardware (actual hardware, not shares)?
swhitt: foregoing the fact that it is still a gamble at this point
runeks: good question
swhitt: I have a cilent or two who are interested
ThickAssLaptop: there's no good answer
swhitt: yeah...
swhitt: that's what I said
ThickAssLaptop: bfl is the most real company i guess
ThickAssLaptop: asicminer shares might be a stable choice...
ThickAssLaptop: but all risky
runeks: If I had $20k to invest in Bitcoin it wouldn't go to any ASIC company
swhitt: runeks: yeah, I said "buy bitcoin, throw some at SDICE but keep most of it in BTC"
mircea_popescu: swhitt http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/ http://bitbet.us/bet/269/avalon-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
mircea_popescu: take your pick
runeks: swhitt: I think that's good advice.
swhitt: but they are interested in hashing etc.
ThickAssLaptop: start a litecoin farm
ThickAssLaptop: thats my advice
runeks: swhitt: what do you mean? are they interested in making money or supporting the network?
swhitt: what's ltcbtc fx rate now
swhitt: the guy's loaded and wants to geek out
swhitt: plus the prospect of making money makes it more fun I guess
swhitt: 1 ltc is only 0.0024 via btc-e now...
swhitt: 0.0024 btc
ThickAssLaptop: look at the usd rate too
runeks: I have a hard time believing BFL will deliver within the next two months. but on the other hand Avalon won't either, probably (for new customers). so it doesn't look too good.
ThickAssLaptop: and run a litecoin mining calc befre you judge
mod6: that was an awesome hockey game
mod6: was i on tv?
mod6: musta been
mod6: missed the s.dice sale 'eh
ThickAssLaptop: any word from evoorhees lately?
swhitt: when is the march dividend out?
swhitt: i thought it was supposed to be today.
pigeons: complete and accurate Statements of Profit and Loss for each calendar month will be published by them no later than by the fifth day of the new month.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.642 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.64 = 5.12 BTC [-]
Bowjob: hey guys
Bowjob: i cant seem to access my coins
Bowjob: via electrum
mircea_popescu: Bowjob why not ?
Bowjob: When I double click on the .exe, it doesn't start
Bowjob: I'm redownloading electrum to see whats up
mod6: did you try rebooting
Bowjob: yeah
mod6: <.<
Bowjob: I have the seed so I'm good
mircea_popescu: "Electrum is an easy to use Bitcoin client. It protects you from losing coins"
mircea_popescu: i find this funny in the circumstances.
mod6: does the process show up in the running executables list?
Bowjob: No
Bowjob: funny, I re downloaded it, doesnt open up
Bowjob: mhm
mod6: what if you try to execute it from the command line, what happens?
Bowjob: reboot once again
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.0919 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3713 @ 0.00076397 = 2.8366 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 787 @ 0.00076396 = 0.6012 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: i hear beer
Chaang-Noi: heart
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/orice-cuplu-functional/
mircea_popescu: the text reads
mircea_popescu: "any functional couple...
mircea_popescu: ... includes a little secret"
mircea_popescu: “I really have no idea how money works or budgets work.”
mircea_popescu: that seriously explains everything
mircea_popescu: at least the man's occasionally honest.
Zedster: do you always pat yourself on the back?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.00073 = 0.365 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.349 = 1.745 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 3 @ 0.0919 = 0.2757 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.398 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00999 = 0.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.00999 = 0.02 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 16 @ 0.00999 = 0.1598 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: you have a minute?
mircea_popescu: last saturday john wells had no idea bitcoin even exists. this saturday he's asking his guests cogent questions about it.
mjr_: lol what up everyone
mjr_: this is too funny, every month you have people running away from s.dice's money
mjr_: quick guys they are about to pay us, sell sell sell
mircea_popescu: lol
Bugpwoder: In a mature, efficient market, the stock price generally drops by the amount of the dividend upon dividend payout. Last two months, this anticipated drop did not occur with S.DICE.
lottoBTC: TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/
thestringpuller: Bugpwoder: in fact it went up no?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.349 = 0.698 BTC [+]
mjr_: yep
mjr_: in fact it drops right BEFORE dividends
mjr_: then rises after
thestringpuller: it's because people are trying to short
thestringpuller: not really
Bugpwoder: thestringpuller: yes
Zedster: anyone aware of BTC-e having problems taking deposits?
lottoBTC: TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/
Bugpwoder: ^ spam detected....
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 17 @ 1.56 = 26.52 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: spam detected
kakobrekla: mornin
Bugpwoder: lottoBTC needs to be banned
kakobrekla: lottoBTC read chan rules and obey them, if you wish to stay.
kakobrekla: you can also pay me 1337 btc and ill leave you alone
Zedster: go with option B
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00591 = 0.591 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 85 @ 0.0059 = 0.5015 BTC [-]
mjr_: good morning
topace_: anyone know when the sdice dividend is going ot be paid?
kakobrekla: any day now
Eduard_Munteanu: Weird, I remember there was a list of exchanges in the topic, where is it?
mjr_: should be by tuesday the 5th i think
Eduard_Munteanu: kakobrekla: does bit4x provide a web interface for trading? I'm on Linux.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.29 = 1.45 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: Eduard_Munteanu, no, you need to use MT4, you can use it in virtual machine
Eduard_Munteanu: I see.
Eduard_Munteanu: I guess Wine might do too.
kakobrekla: hmm
kakobrekla: google says its possible but i havent tested how well it works under wine
mjr_: does MT4 have an API?
kakobrekla: well yea, it has an internal api
kakobrekla: you can code your stuff there with MQL
mjr_: ok cool
mjr_: i'm working on plugging different exchanges into a smart order router/virtual crossing engine
mjr_: i'm installing it now, to play around with it, looks like a cool piece of software
mjr_: looks like a really cool app, who do you set up an account with exactly?
kakobrekla: what do you mean?
kakobrekla: i open live accounts in btc denomination
jurov: hi kakobrekla: http://live.coinbr.com/images/logofinal.png
jurov: aka siren-maintained corporate identity xD
kakobrekla: its up http://bitcoin-assets.com/
jurov: lol, looks even better with these rounded corners
kakobrekla: :)
kakobrekla: shhhhs mp will hear you.
Eduard_Munteanu: Hm, what other broker is there for MPEx, other than nam's?
kakobrekla: hit f5 on bitcoin-assets
kakobrekla: .com
kakobrekla: lol
dub: Eduard_Munteanu: https://coinbr.com/ref?c=A3R7Tstq16
jurov: yup
Eduard_Munteanu: dub: thanks, I'll add you as a referral if I register
dub: gah what happened to rule 1 of -assets
kakobrekla: eggs bacon and spam.
Eduard_Munteanu: Hm, only 3 assets listed on coinbr?
Bugpowder: only 3 assets listed on mpex
Bugpowder: dude
Eduard_Munteanu: I see, I recall a few more on nam's.
jurov: there are also options and futures
Eduard_Munteanu: Oh, nice.
jurov: but were not so often trade to make this type of graph usable
Eduard_Munteanu: Hm, I suppose I can't see a list of assets until I deposit some BTCs?
jurov: yes, new order screen is accessible only after initial deposit
jurov: but it's the same list as mpex.co
error4733: F*** the bast*** playing less than 2000 on SDICE... 2x 15 BTC to 955 BTC
Zedster: mirc won't let me list my touring polka band
Eduard_Munteanu: Why are those options so cheap? E.g. strike price 19USD/BTC, valued at 0.566 BTC.
Eduard_Munteanu: Err...
Eduard_Munteanu: Nevermind, I read USD instead of BTC.
lottoBTC: TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/
kakobrekla: yeah yeah
Zedster: got him!
Zedster: wtg bug
Lyspooner: what if i said the same thing
Lyspooner: TO PLAY LOTTO BTC: http://www.lottobtc.com/
Zedster: every 5 mins and nothing else?
Lyspooner: oh that was the first one i saw
Zedster: it's a bot
Bugpowder: never try to reason with a robot
gribble: 1 BTC = 34.24860 U.S. dollars = 26.3086496 Euros
dub: Is it racist of me to ignore SebastianJu purely because I can't parse his linglinglish
kakobrekla: well not if you ignore his rase too
chmod755: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 150 @ 0.006 = 0.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.0059 = 0.885 BTC [-]
jurov: Zedster, try btct for the polka band
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00077843 = 5.449 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.349 = 0.698 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000745 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.00076 = 0.0228 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.00077 = 0.0154 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.00078 = 0.0156 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 40 @ 0.00079 = 0.0316 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 278 @ 0.00079 = 0.2196 BTC [+]
dub: heh just got expense report for a week long road trip with 5 friends last month
dub: more of a historic pub crawl, wine tour and whiskey binge
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00505 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 70 @ 0.00504 = 0.3528 BTC [-]
dub: we spent $10003
kakobrekla: not bad
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0059 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: finally about to break out of this channel
kakobrekla: the what?
kakobrekla: you cant do that.
Zedster: bugs gotta do whats bugs gotta do
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6745 = 2.698 BTC [+]
Lyspooner: taser sword https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0F-VVjqarZE#!
dub: amurica fuck yeah
dub: comment win: Occams Taser 3 minutes ago Now try building yourself a girlfriend...
Diablo-D3: I still want taser brass knuckles
gribble: 1 BTC = 34.34800 U.S. dollars = 26.3850054 Euros
dub: Diablo-D3: beserker punch doom style
dub: berserker*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550004 = 5.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00550003 = 3.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.0055 = 3.85 BTC [-]
jurov: pre-divs sale goes on
Diablo-D3: dub: the only thing I remember from doom is the fucking lobster claw
thestringpuller: I wish I could short.
thestringpuller: The market is so reactive
thestringpuller: rather than proactive
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.00999 = 0.0599 BTC [+]
dub: I wish I was a little bit shorter, wish I wasnt a baller, wish I had a girl who looked bad, I wouldnt call her?
dub: wish I had usagi in a hat with a bat and a '84 skoda
dub: mtgox x85 0.0675
dub: wat
dub: mtgox x110 0.0338
dub: the fuck is going on
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00076889 = 0.8842 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21495 @ 0.00077069 = 16.566 BTC [+]
dub: we gettin goxxed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0055001 = 2.7501 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4663223.55823 based on data since last change | 4470188.64953 based on data for last three days
jurov: iDiff-E selling for 6.1 now for beliebers ;)
jurov: *no, it's iDiff-O March
gribble: 1 BTC = 34.36999 U.S. dollars = 26.4018974 Euros
Ukto: First backed asicminer shares trading live
Ukto: https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.ASICMINER-PT
dub: backed
Ukto: backed
dub: strangely that word (as much as it is worth) doesn't appear in the profile
dub: Shares total: 1 bajillion/Shares Issued: tiny fraction/Issuer may arbitrarily manipulte share value: yes
Ukto: it states that all shares are verified with friedcat
Ukto: but your right
Ukto: I will get that changed
Ukto: terra went to be already tho -_-
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00208 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 15 @ 0.002 = 0.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 84 @ 0.0019 = 0.1596 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.0059 = 0.59 BTC [-]
jurov: Any public votes presented by ASICMINER to all shareholders of ASICMINER may be voted on BitFunder towards a single decision by the G.ASICMINGER-PT shareholder account.
jurov: Ukto either there will be voting support or someone is due for a headache?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.00581 = 2.905 BTC [-]
Ukto: well
Ukto: supposedly there will be no public votes
Ukto: but just in case
Ukto: that was put in
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3147 @ 0.00599998 = 18.8819 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1853 @ 0.00599999 = 11.118 BTC [+]
jurov: better to just say shares have no voting rights
jurov: cuz trolls will be trolling inevitably
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.624 = 6.24 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 24 @ 0.6235 = 14.964 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.6221 = 6.221 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.621 = 3.726 BTC [-]
jurov: OT: if anyone uses postgres, i recommend: http://postgres-bits.herokuapp.com . several things blew me away, like, it can store dictionaries
jurov: natively
jurov: and query them
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0059 = 5.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.41 = 2.82 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.4 = 4.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000789 = 0.0237 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.621 = 3.726 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 19 @ 0.0058 = 0.1102 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00572 = 0.572 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 31 @ 0.00571 = 0.177 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.00799 = 0.799 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.002129 = 0.2129 BTC [+]
topace_: anyone want to test pushing units from mpex to havelock?
kakobrekla: is it free?
kakobrekla: i dont even have havelock acc thb
kakobrekla: tbh
topace_: yup its free
kakobrekla: this is for arb or what?
topace_: yea, to allow others to get in on the mpex->havelock arbitrage
kakobrekla: cute
topace_: 1) push shares to my fingerprint
Eduard_Munteanu: Cool.
topace_: 2) paste receipt into havelock website
topace_: 3) i manually approve transfer (for now)
topace_: once im sure its working well, ill remove the manual transfer
topace_: or, only require it on very large transfers
kakobrekla: hmmm
kakobrekla: i mean the question here is y u open this at all
kakobrekla: you could just automate it
kakobrekla: i mean
kakobrekla: the arb
kakobrekla: no?
topace_: yea, i could
kakobrekla: well there some money on the table
kakobrekla: theres*
topace_: i think there needs to be a way for people to freely move shares between mpex and the passthru's and maybe even between the passthrus themselves
kakobrekla: ok imma gonna try this
kakobrekla: lets register
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 455 @ 0.00072 = 0.3276 BTC [-]
topace_: cool thanks
kakobrekla: Receipt is valid
kakobrekla: Your request to push 1000 unit(s) of S.DICE to Havelock Investments has been received. Push requests are currently processed manually (so expect 1-48 hours processign time), but will be automated in the future.
thestringpuller: passthru
mircea_popescu: hai.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 500 @ 0.00213 = 1.065 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: topace_ where are ze shares? :p
topace_: kakobrekla: approved. should show in your account now
topace_: refresh portfolio page
kakobrekla: aha ok i see something
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 935 @ 0.0022 = 2.057 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <jurov> hi kakobrekla: http://live.coinbr.com/images/logofinal.png ?<< haha cool
topace_: hmm wonder what its showing for your book value? obviously it wont be able to calculate that...
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.00249 = 0.005 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00249 = 0.0249 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 497 @ 0.0025 = 1.2425 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: seems i didn't miss much huh
topace_: kakobrekla: umm somethings wrong tho.
topace_: my multiple is off
topace_: lol
kakobrekla: hey yeah
topace_: it should have given you 10 shares, not 100
kakobrekla: i was just wondering
topace_: haha
kakobrekla: says 100 on the contract
kakobrekla: still no bbet tho ? :p
topace_: think i might add bbet this week
topace_: and mpoe as well
kakobrekla: the recent tx still shows 100
topace_: just fixed that too
kakobrekla: kk
topace_: well at least there was nothing wrong with the code, i just had the multiple set wrong.
kakobrekla: no way to push back now?
kakobrekla: i mean automagic or smth
topace_: not yet... but thats the easier of the two to code
topace_: give me your fingerprint and ill push em back
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00077069 = 7.2445 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: push it push it
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCadcBR95oU
kakobrekla: its ok, ima gonna leave em there
topace_: oh okay :)
topace_: ill add the push back form probably tomrrow or tuesday
topace_: it'll be a push request, and manually approved on my side, same as the push in request.. at least until im sure its working 100%
kakobrekla: cool
topace_: gotta go vacuum now, or gf will kill me when she gets home
topace_: ttyl
kakobrekla: enjoy
mircea_popescu: that;s so backwards...
kakobrekla: first pusing off mpex now cleaning before the lady gets home
kakobrekla: endoftheworld.swf
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.40001, Best ask: 34.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 34.40001, 24 hour volume: 12439.22704040, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.50000, 24 hour vwap: 34.12774
jurov: next door at -otc, litecoin fpga firmware is cooking
jurov: "dont fpgas go out of style as fast as CPUs do?"
mircea_popescu: i thought litecoin was like all cpu
mircea_popescu: </facetious>
jurov: just because it needs much memory. if someone figures out how to hook memory to fpga and make it fast...sky is the limit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.6216 = 3.108 BTC [+]
jurov: and on -dev they took on to optimize satoshidice, again :)
mircea_popescu: heh.
jurov: i wonder why i haven't seen the idea of applying hashcash to *every* transaction
jurov: like, tx won't be accepted if you didn't some little hashing yourself
mircea_popescu: jurov ask them when are they gonna actually get crackin on the actual problems http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoind-not-quite-ready-for-prime-time/
mircea_popescu: buncha fuckwits
jurov: asked about that yest
mircea_popescu: aha ? and ?
jurov: can't remember any concrete outcome
jurov: some discussion about optimized choosing of unspent outputs at most
jurov: i guess you'll end up having to defragment the bitbet wallet occassionally
jurov: to prevent situations
mircea_popescu: so why the fuck are they fixing other people's problems
mircea_popescu: jesus christ these dudes.
mircea_popescu: "o, what needs to be done is too hard, o, we're too stupid, let's do something else instead"
mircea_popescu: psccccchhhh
jurov: lol, i have to make closed source wallet defrag tool.. and sell it for 1BTC. or at least accept donations
mircea_popescu: and have the same dorks whine about how you're ruining bitcoin
mircea_popescu: which they broke
mircea_popescu: i strongly suspect the reason satoshi made himself scarce was that he was getting sick of dealing with the current team of devs.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.6216 = 4.3512 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131012.0
mircea_popescu: aww they got chunge guy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6197 BTC [-]
Bowjob: mhm
Bowjob: LTC went up to 10 cents
mircea_popescu: lmao wait. waitwait.
mircea_popescu: Cloudflare was down ?!
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha
Eduard_Munteanu: BTW, how do you manage shares traded on your exchange? I hear asicminer people had to do some manual bookkeeping. Do you keep an exchange-local tab?
Eduard_Munteanu: But then I suppose you can't trade shares outside the exchange.
jurov: Eduard_Munteanu, you asking mircea?
Eduard_Munteanu: Anyone. :)
jurov: he already admitted he has girls for that
Eduard_Munteanu: Heh.
jurov: and yes, the shares don't go outside exchange. this is why we have all these passthroughs
mircea_popescu: an exchange is an exchange, it has a trade engine
Eduard_Munteanu: Ideally shares could work like BTC, I wonder if that's possible.
mircea_popescu: what friedcat is doing is inhuman
mircea_popescu: but i guess people gotta try it out.
mircea_popescu: Eduard_Munteanu that's not ideal. it's actually a bad idea. the horse has been discussed to death
Eduard_Munteanu: Hm.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.61 = 3.05 BTC [-]
Eduard_Munteanu: But isn't there a crypto way to accomplish the same thing, perhaps different than BTC? You still need exchanges.
Eduard_Munteanu: If this has been discussed on the forums, I'd be glad to read those threads.
Eduard_Munteanu: Unlike BTCs, shares are by definition centralized I suppose.
Eduard_Munteanu: At least wrt how they're issued.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/why-i-nixed-p2p-colored-coins-and-all-that-jazz/
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135778037437.png lmao deliciouscake
Eduard_Munteanu: Hm, makes sense, reading... thanks.
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin Pride Stats
mircea_popescu: Feb 2013: Income: $2,200 USD Profit: $1,186.00 USD
mircea_popescu: (Selling was halted during the month of Feb. to change payment methods.)
mircea_popescu: Jan 2013: Income: $3,270 USD Profit: $2,218.35 USD
mircea_popescu: Dec 2012: Income: $4,521.75 USD Profit: $3,784.00 USD
mircea_popescu: Bitcoin pride averages a 70% profit. Don't you want a piece of the pie too?
mircea_popescu: wait, their income went from 4.5 to 3.2 then 2.2 ?!
mircea_popescu: who was saying they've eaten up their market earlier ? they had a point it seems
BitHub: so they're losing money each month?
mircea_popescu: well, losing incom
mircea_popescu: still showing a (growing) profit
mircea_popescu: i've never seen that sort of dynamic before.
kakobrekla: hm
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: I see the problem. Still, wouldn't an exchange / market-maker be able to eliminate all those delays for things traded within the exchange? Not sure how one'd deal with double spending if you don't wait for confirmations.
kakobrekla: the formula it seems is Income( rand() ) - 1 grand = profit
mircea_popescu: Eduard_Munteanu by keeping a central book, obviously.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla unless the sqrt log guy has a better solution, i think you're spot on.
kakobrekla: ;))
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: yes. And committing changes to the blockchain periodically. The exchange is still pretty important, but at least you can move stuff between exchanges in a standard way.
mircea_popescu: you ALREADY can do that.
mircea_popescu: mpex issues push receipts.
Eduard_Munteanu: Hm.
Eduard_Munteanu: Actually yeah, that kinda solves the entire issue.
Eduard_Munteanu: Not sure about OTC trading, but presumably you could do it manually somehow.
Eduard_Munteanu: Using your receipts.
mircea_popescu: if you can do it automatically like topace is trying you necessarily can do it manually too
Eduard_Munteanu: Indeed.
mircea_popescu: the way asicminer is playing this game makes me scratch my head.
mircea_popescu: so they're pointedly not coming to be listed on mpex, jump through the hoops and get my ok.
mircea_popescu: instead they're waiting for btct/bf/others run passthroughs
mircea_popescu: obviously there's no contract involved there.
mircea_popescu: now what happens if six months down the road friedcat pulls a gigavps ?
mircea_popescu: Ukto, burnside and whoever else involved gets scammer tags ? or what ?
Eduard_Munteanu: You're saying they're intentionally delaying listing on MPEx?
mircea_popescu: i'm saying they're either through sheer incompetence, sheer lack of resources or by actually being frauds behave just like a fraud would.
mircea_popescu: maybe i'm not understanding something.
Eduard_Munteanu: IDK, getting listed should've been negotiated even before the IPO, in my opinion. People have to have some way to buy / sell those stocks easily.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: moreover, they've liquidity-trapped their "investors"
Eduard_Munteanu: Yeah.
mircea_popescu: which is something you really don't want to do
dub: whats liquidity?
dub: sound slike something to do with selling shares
dub: which is, as we know, not how you invest!
mircea_popescu: o ok
mircea_popescu: welcome back among the living
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130947.msg1576297#msg1576297
mircea_popescu: wow, eskimobob actually published a readable balance.
dub: wat
dub: oh right, where he lists bitcoins: he is counting litecoins
mircea_popescu: converted at an unspecified rate etc.\
mircea_popescu: still, i had no idea ltc tanked that bad in btc
pigeons: yeah as btc was going up, ltc was going down to track the dollar and stay at .07 usd rather than stay at a ratio to btc
mircea_popescu: otoh lct seems all set for bubble territory.
dub: bfl realy do deserve some kind of award
mircea_popescu: since btc folks love a good bubble...
dub: they should be held up as a shining example of how to fail at pr
mircea_popescu: nah, coinlab is the shining example of how to fail at pr.
pigeons: we brought bitcoin to wall street in silicon valley
mircea_popescu: "drunk whore stumbles into wallstreet bar, announces she's brining the clap to wall street"
dub: im not sure if hiring inaba or letting your userbase add content at a yourdomain.com/blog/ url IS DUMBER
dub: it took quite a few moments to decipher that I was not actually reading an official bfl blog
mircea_popescu: hm
mircea_popescu: truth be told those are pretty good too
mircea_popescu: ah, so much fail, so hard to pick a winner
mircea_popescu: sooo, three chicks drank four liters of vodka in two days.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is this, dnipopetrovsk ?!
dub: I should delve into this road trip expenses sheet
mircea_popescu: hey, was it like 10k ?
dub: yes, 6 people, 6 days, 10k
mircea_popescu: list it
mircea_popescu: LTC-BARF
Bowjob: apparently we have a new ASIC company that is ready to ship
mircea_popescu: about the same size as eskimo's thing
Bowjob: this one's from hungary
mircea_popescu: Bowjob which one is that ?
BitHub: where can i place a bet that coinlab will be out of business by end of year?
Bowjob: PrimeAsic
Bowjob: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=148832.0
mircea_popescu: BitHub on bitbet, if you can well define out of business
mircea_popescu: iirc jurov tried
BitHub: well maybe not out of business
BitHub: what i want to bet on this being a huge fail
dub: theres only $633 worth of whiskey listed here, I don't think thats accurate
mircea_popescu: hm, actually hungary, might be worth a visit.
dub: I recall at least 4 bottles that where brought from home
BitHub: oh that's cool
BitHub: wish i live near hungary
Bowjob: if its legit, I'll fly over there to pick a couple of them
BitHub: i would sell my car today and go get one tomorrow
Bowjob: I don't know the price yet
mircea_popescu: i could be in budapest literally by sunup
mircea_popescu: but meh... worth it ?
mircea_popescu: ~300 km awai
BitHub: really?
mircea_popescu: yes really.
mircea_popescu: that's why i live here, it's close to shit.
BitHub: i live in a fuck hole
BitHub: where everything is expensive
mircea_popescu: sucks. move to yurp
BitHub: i'm trying
dub: mircea_popescu: I thought it was teh lion/bear licesning regime
mircea_popescu: dub huh ?!
BitHub: :D
dub: http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/27/lions-bears-removed-from-romanian-gangsters-property/
BitHub: couch
mircea_popescu: lmao
dub: I heard that on the radio a few days ago, first thought 'wonder if mp shows up on irc today'
BitHub: better not touch my pet tiger
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: the idea that you need a permit for stuff is certainly new here
mircea_popescu: what the fuck, permits.
BitHub: bit of a long shot but would anyone be able to help me out and send one of those to Australia?
mircea_popescu: this stuff is a mess to export
BitHub: yeah thats true
BitHub: customs will probably take it and start mining themselves
BitHub: pricks
mircea_popescu: yeah
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: You are beginning to see some of the strange contradictory nature of the asicminer people, I think, that I've been complaining about for months.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic perhaps. what specifically ?
mircea_popescu: o, asicminer not asic miners. yeah.
dub: why is it a mess to export?
dub: its a computer, we have been shipping these around the place for a wee while now
mircea_popescu: dub ya well, maybe it's a bomb
dub: customs can test for bombliness
mircea_popescu: maybe it's a nuclear bomb producing item
mircea_popescu: maybe it'll fuck their mothers.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: You mentioned earlier that they are behaving fraudulently-like.. This is permeating more than just the way they are handling their stocks, but elsewhere as well, and it's troubling because unethical people in their position, could conceivably have done a much larger order to start with than what they are reporting, and the attraction of doing double-spends is quite large if, indeed, the evidence is correct when
midnightmagic: it points to short-term thinking.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic well, i don't know the whole thing, but from this angle it looks more like they're clueless/haven't been thinking things through/haven't slept in weeks
mircea_popescu: tho its quite possible they're ill intended too, sure.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: I would be very interested to hear from you if you discover that they aren't just clueless, but seemingly deliberately clueless.
dub: they are chinese
midnightmagic: Or if you begin to make observations that suggest it is not pure ignorance.
mircea_popescu: i'll certinly say something
mircea_popescu: but so far my belief is they just don't understand finance
mircea_popescu: which is in fact common so.
midnightmagic: dub: And yet ngzhang is one of the most ethical businesspeople I've seen in a long time.
mircea_popescu: i dun think chineseness has much to do with anything
dub: midnightmagic: I'll assume you're being facetious?
midnightmagic: dub: Being Chinese doesn't really mean much.
midnightmagic: dub: I am not. ngzhang is extremely ethical, or else Icarus wouldn't exist.
dub: lets deal with teh first question, my mind is somewhat boggling
mircea_popescu: there's plenty of scummy americans, iranians, turks and eskimos in this world
mircea_popescu: and plenty of trustworthy same etc.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Eskimos don't like being called Eskimos. :)
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: well whatever, inuits. northern russian people.
dub: midnightmagic: this is the the same dude involved in avalon right? the 'we shipped' guy
midnightmagic: dub: The "we shipped and they're sitting in customs at the beginning of CNY." and also , "Geez, with all this negativity, maybe we'll just be quiet until there's actually something to talk about." guys..
midnightmagic: dub: Also the latest update, "Rest of the units will have been shipped by around Mar 10, everyone should have batch #1 in hand by about mid-March" people.
dub: pitty they're not 'here are the tracking numbers' people though really
dub: anyway, being chinese decreases ones ability to think strategically and reason counterfactually
dub: this is a genetic/language thing thats been done to death
midnightmagic: ... I can't actually tell if you're serious.
midnightmagic: If you're jerking my chain, your delivery is too dry.
dub: im not, try meeting some chinese people
dub: I hear there are a couple up your way
midnightmagic: And how do you know I'm not Chinese origin?
dub: we'll I don't but based on past discussions I think its rather unlikely
dub: you are far too empathetic for one
kakobrekla: https://twitter.com/BitBets
kakobrekla: https://twitter.com/BitBetsBets
midnightmagic: dub: I'm at a loss here to meaningfully discuss this with you. I don't know where to start. If you're serious, I'm fairly sure we are so alien that there is basically no common ground on which to meaningfully converse for this topic.
kakobrekla: fyi
dub: anyway, if you remove any racist overtones you have automatically inferred, it explains a lot about the comms we've seen from avalon and asicminer
kakobrekla: no spam.
midnightmagic: dub: I haven't called you a racist yet.
dub: midnightmagic: you're gettign there, its par for the course with you (you'd make a terrible anthropologist)
midnightmagic: dub: Is it now. I'm.. glad you're paying such close attention to my activity that you think you have me pegged.
kakobrekla: ZOMG https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93445.msg1580072#msg1580072
dub: midnightmagic: I don't really have time to go through this, there is quite a bit of literature out there
kakobrekla: During the BDT experience, because i was very concerned about the high interest bond and the lack of supporting high revenues i've made the decision (unethical, possibly illegal) to repurpose some of the funds raised with the IPO.
kakobrekla: Those funds were invested through some chinese partners of mine in asic equipment.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0059 = 0.0295 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: dub: Much of the literature usually cited to conclude such things has been thoroughly debunked, so perhaps someday when you're willing to cite, after making such assertions, I'd be glad to read and evaluate such studies.
dub: midnightmagic: regarding the chinese, not your culteral naivety
dub: yes, well I'm more of an experience guy than a take debunkment at face value guy. Dorkins calls it the belief gene, though I don't really believe it exists.
midnightmagic: dub: Making negative assertions about the person you are having a discussion with is not usually productive. I'm readjusting my evaluation of your random, seemingly-connected comments post-statement.
dub: midnightmagic: its an observation grounded in experience, not a negative assertion
midnightmagic: dub: I'm fairly sure your evaluation of my cultural "naivete" is based on incomplete data.
midnightmagic: dub: Also, if you are an experience guy, then why are you pointing to external data as the foundation of your assertions rather than just your experience?
dub: midnightmagic: thats easy, it closely mirrors what I have observed
mircea_popescu: <dub> this is a genetic/language thing thats been done to death << it's not genetic, it's cultural.
midnightmagic: dub: I'll presume you are aware of the notion of confirmation bias.
mircea_popescu: whoop, you just did it :D
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> Those funds were invested through some chinese partners of mine in asic equipment. <<< ahaha epic
dub: midnightmagic: and I'f I were a victim of that would I need to have read about this before or after observing it?
midnightmagic: dub: ALl that's required is that you reject well-grounded studies that disagree with your opinion, while selecting out those studies which agree with it or reinforce it in some fashion.
dub: I guess at some point, some people like to actually form an opinion
midnightmagic: dub: Sure, course. Nothing wrong with an opinion so long as data can update it.
dub: the problem is you can likely produce data to refute any opinion as can I
midnightmagic: dub: Lots of people think that, but it is also possible to assess the quality of the data. So, IMO, no, it's not possible to find quality data which refutes any opinion.
midnightmagic: dub: Or rather, it's not possible for me..
dub: i'd like to continue this and know it looks like weasling out
dub: but im not in a meeting, on teh phone, and working to a thight deadline
dub: /snot/now
midnightmagic: I'm sorry you think that. You should realise that the implication is that I am aserting my mind can be changed.
dub: and typing without looking at my screen
midnightmagic: Unlike most people, I am not interested (this time) in simply honing my ability to refute. If and when you come up with actual cites, I'd be happy to look them up. I still have fulltext research credentials at the local university.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.29 = 0.87 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: now how'dja get that eh ? by exploiting the masses
mircea_popescu: by 'olding on to outdated imperialist dogma
mircea_popescu: which perpetuates the social and economic differences
mircea_popescu: within our society.
mircea_popescu: If there's ever going to be any progress...
midnightmagic: dub: Also, stop asserting stupid things about me.
BitHub: so what happened with sdice divs?
mircea_popescu: ;;seen evoorhees
gribble: evoorhees was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 3 hours, 55 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <evoorhees> perfect
mircea_popescu: well, contract says they got till the 5th
BitHub: hmm
dub: midnightmagic: a little while ago there was a conversation where you appeared to be floored by the notion that in some locations/cultures the base assumption of a strangers actions being altruistic was false
Eduard_Munteanu: I wonder if bitcoiners are going to experiment with different governance rules / contracts than you usually see in the real world. Which is usually majority of shares.
midnightmagic: dub: I was floored by the fact that it was so *in that specific locale*.
dub: midnightmagic: its not the only time you have appeared to me to base your arguments around a world view couched in priviledged western culture
Eduard_Munteanu: I guess mircea_popescu pledges to be the benevolent dictator of MPEx forever, after reading a bit through the contract.
mircea_popescu: Eduard_Munteanu let me dig that out for you
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/so-whats-the-plan-with-mpoempex/
error4733: haha mp you made my day ! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1517002#msg1517002
mircea_popescu: Eduard_Munteanu also, re the rules etc, http://trilema.com/2012/the-mpex-rota/ http://trilema.com/2013/rota-post-mortem/
mircea_popescu: error4733 lol
mircea_popescu: if at least he had the guts to post something like "Same"
mircea_popescu: that'd have earned him some respect
mircea_popescu: but... weasels everywhere.
dub: midnightmagic: my memory of it is different, I don't think we were discussing a specific place, only the existence of such places
mircea_popescu: sometimes i suspect there's like five balls in three ballsacks available in the entire continental us.
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, did Silk Road ever approach you? To get listed, raise money and so forth.
mircea_popescu: i've not made a comment on the topic so far.
Eduard_Munteanu: I see.
dub: anyway, if I don't want this PM to actually climb up my ass I need to deliver some shit so I'm closing this term
mircea_popescu: aha
midnightmagic: dub: It is a cultural perversion of what appears to be the most successful strategy for human progress.
BitHub: good read mircea
mircea_popescu: ;)
BitHub: take the girls up and down the river? wtf
BitHub: i thought you were talkig about your daughters or something, till i click on the pics lul wtf
mircea_popescu: im not married / don't have kids.
Eduard_Munteanu: Hmm, you know... they also said underground resources belong to the state... wouldn't surprise me if they deem Bitcoin mining a national resource as well. :)
mircea_popescu: that'll be very much their problem entirely.
BitHub: lul and these girls are your friends and you just hang out wtih them?
mircea_popescu: BitHub im hung so i hang.
BitHub: making a porno or something?
mircea_popescu: to quote, http://trilema.com/2009/eu-am-un-succes-nebun-la-femei/
mircea_popescu: (nu means no)
BitHub: i hope that's me in 5 years haha
Eduard_Munteanu: Heh.
mircea_popescu: why wait five years, i always say.
BitHub: trying to be realistic
BitHub: it did just give me a huge boost of motivation tho
mircea_popescu: srsly, girls are easy. you just have to make them feel safe they'll do anything.
Eduard_Munteanu: Like investors. :P
mircea_popescu: indeed.
BitHub: money first, then girls
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.1134 = 0.2268 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C330T] 8 @ 0.29248665 = 2.3399 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 1000 @ 0.22360455 = 223.6046 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 1000 @ 0.19808896 = 198.089 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: BitHub> money first, then girls (this does work well)
Chaang-Noi: anyone happen to know off the top of their head how many avolons were made in batch one? or the total hashing power?
thestringpuller: approx 200
thestringpuller: based on a 500,000 NRE cost on the chips I assume there will be at least 600 total on the first "batch" of chips
thestringpuller: why do you want to know?
Chaang-Noi: i want to know how much asic miner shares are worth
Chaang-Noi: 600 times 60 ghs....
Chaang-Noi: that is a lot, hmm
Chaang-Noi: just wonder if bfl will fail hard, are they still bumping or whatever?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550011 = 5.5001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0055001 = 2.7501 BTC [-]
dub: midnightmagic: indeed, saw an interesting article about the very young having much greater altrustic tendancies which increases survival odds in an 'all the adults are dead' scenario
midnightmagic: dub: I'm trying to dig up the log because I'm curious what I was thinking at the time. I've actually grown up in a place (yes, they exist even in Canada) where one must assume the stranger is evil.
midnightmagic: dub: Do you have any more keywords for me to search on?
dub: midnightmagic: egrep -i '(dub.*eastern.*europe)' \#bitcoin-assets.log
midnightmagic: thanks
midnightmagic: stupid split logs anyway..
dub: amusing false positive: 29-11-12-13:45<mircea_popescu> kakobreklaaa it's sharpie in pooper you person of dubious eastern european origin you
dub: midnightmagic: 12-12-12-20:59
dub: thats US eastern
kakobrekla: lol
midnightmagic: dub: *AWESOME* you just found for me the reference to the mpoe-pr boob pic that I've been searching for forever.
mircea_popescu: lol ?!
dub: we aim to please
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Hey man, in that log on that day you're talking about that boobpic I've been trying to grep for forever.
mircea_popescu: cool
mircea_popescu: you've prolly given bithub even more determination charges.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Who me?
mircea_popescu: yes you.
midnightmagic: What are determination charges?
mircea_popescu: "<BitHub> it did just give me a huge boost of motivation tho"
mircea_popescu: i guess i used the wrong word
midnightmagic: dub: All I see is "[18:01:08] <midnightmagic> dub: What a horrible way to live, in constant fear." I guess all I can say is that's not a statement born of ignorance.
midnightmagic: I may have been quoting blade runner.
midnightmagic: (alternatively)
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.42598, Best ask: 34.57010, Bid-ask spread: 0.14412, Last trade: 34.42349, 24 hour volume: 14866.21945414, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.21380
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 72000 @ 0.00175 = 126 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00196988 = 0.9849 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 555 @ 0.00196989 = 1.0933 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1945 @ 0.00197 = 3.8317 BTC [+]
Bowjob: dice took a beating today
pigeons: up 10% from yesterday
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 35 @ 0.00999 = 0.3497 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o hey
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.00175 / 0.00175879 / 0.00197 (75000 shares, 131.91 BTC), 7D: 0.00175 / 0.00177002 / 0.00197 (79299 shares, 140.36 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00165663 / 0.00197 (127408 shares, 211.07 BTC)
mircea_popescu: lol more than half the month;s volume
mircea_popescu: (28+74) * 1.1/1.5
mircea_popescu: ;;calc (28+74) * 1.1/1.5
gribble: 74.8
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 29 @ 0.0059 = 0.1711 BTC [+]
Bowjob: I got out of dice just before it came tumbling
Bowjob: im pissed I have900 shares left..
Bowjob: >_>
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 70 @ 0.099 = 6.93 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00550001 = 11 BTC [-]
midnightmagic: Why's SD tanking..?
midnightmagic: .. er.. if it's tanking.
Bowjob: BTC is getting more and more valuable
Bowjob: and less and less people bet
maximian: less and less people bet? Doesn't look like it
maximian: head over to http:///blockchain.info
maximian: it's the SatoshiDice show
maximian: Bitcoin should be renamed "Satoshi Dice presents Bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i think people are shifty yet.
mircea_popescu: after 2 years of pretty much nothing but scam after scam after scam many feel uneasy about keeping btc invested in same place
mircea_popescu: you know the joke about the guy who cashed his bank account because he wanted to count his money ? something of the sort.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7 @ 0.00077068 = 0.0054 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 493 @ 0.00077068 = 0.3799 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00550001 = 11 BTC [-]
midnightmagic: hrm. interesting.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00550001 = 5.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 700 @ 0.0059 = 4.13 BTC [+]
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.60667, Best ask: 34.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00333, Last trade: 34.61000, 24 hour volume: 14786.71661983, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.22162
Bowjob: hm
Bowjob: low volume
Namworld: mircea_popescu &/or kakobrekla
Namworld: Any of you around?
mircea_popescu: yea ?
Namworld: BBET statement says 5.44167918 BTC to be distributed as dividends. On 10 million shares, that's like 54.4 satoshi per share, but MPEx shows 32 satoshi per share. What's with that?
iz: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 34.45894, Best ask: 34.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04106, Last trade: 34.50000, 24 hour volume: 15041.28017977, 24 hour low: 33.80000, 24 hour high: 34.61000, 24 hour vwap: 34.22749
mircea_popescu: Namworld mpex got confused by the mistaken notion that 5mn shares are actually out
mircea_popescu: in reality only 3 are
Namworld: odd
Namworld: So long as the amount shown in my stats are good. But odd for the display.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.61 = 2.44 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "с умопомрачительным дизайном и таким же юзабилити :)"
mircea_popescu: ok, who dunnit!
swhitt: me
mircea_popescu: for shame
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 150 @ 0.0059 = 0.885 BTC [+]
molecular: anyone know what's the holdup with paying out the march 1st bfl bet http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ ?
Bowjob: http://www.unifycall.com/update/3avalon.jpg
Bugpowder: Molecular. That bet paid out already
Bugpowder: There was some issues with transaction size limits, info in a triilrma post
molecular: Bugpowder, oh
Bugpowder: I got my coins
Bugpowder: At least
molecular: Bugpowder, me too. lol
molecular: Bugpowder, I thought it'd state the payouts on the site... rechecking, maybe I just overlooked
midnightmagic: Bowjob: what the hell man where's that
Bugpowder: 1mb was too small for the total transaction! Had to be split
Bowjob: China
midnightmagic: Bowjob: Oh. I guess I knew that.
Bowjob: The dude now has 5 of those babies
midnightmagic: Bowjob: One of their Chinese customers stripped it apart I think and took a picture.
Bowjob: yeah
Bowjob: ballsy move
midnightmagic: very, imo
mircea_popescu: molecular ya was paid like 2 days ago
mircea_popescu: or 3
Bowjob: when i get mine, id be making $30 a day lol
Bowjob: I just hope BFL fucks up again, just pleaseee
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: what's the april one at
mircea_popescu: 60ish not bad
Bowjob: looks like avalon will deliver their promise by april 1st
Bowjob: not sure on bfl
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [+]
midnightmagic: Bowjob: Last update said something about all b#1 orders will have been shipped by mar 10, and everyone should have them by mid- to end of march..
mircea_popescu: so then bet is right on point
midnightmagic: I really never thought Avalon would beat them all to the punch like this.
midnightmagic: I threw some orders at them just for the appreciation of their work with Icarus.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic it's an avalon/asicminer tie so far, apparently.
Bowjob: so its avalon 1, then bfl 1.. then avalon 2?
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: *technically* Avalon boxes started hashing first. :)
Bowjob: then theres this hungarian company that apparently made an asic as well
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: And in the hands of actual customers..
mircea_popescu: okay, but you need eyeglasses to separate it
Bowjob: available for pick up
midnightmagic: Bowjob: Is that Reclaimer?
midnightmagic: I thought he was russian..
Bowjob: no
midnightmagic: Not Tycho then.
Bowjob: primeasic
Bowjob: hungary.. is it a safe place?
midnightmagic: Bowjob: There's also a 22nm asic SOC vendor that's farming out chips to board designers.
Bowjob: yeah, yifu is interested in that as well
Bowjob: in sweden i think
Bowjob: mining competition is gonna be really tough this year
Bowjob: my electricity costs are 10 cents per kwh
Bowjob: well, its 6.8 cents for the first 1350 KW, then the rest is billed at 10.12 cents thereafter
Bowjob: mhm
midnightmagic: Bowjob: I'm currently at 0.0865 CAD/KwH
midnightmagic: or.. kWh or whatever.
Bowjob: where
Bowjob: electricity doesnt matter at this point.. not yet anyway
midnightmagic: Bowjob: consumer wins, we just have to time our buys right..
Bowjob: its the first who gets the asic
midnightmagic: Bowjob: I suspect if we care about power consumption now, we'll end up winning in the long run. They're all priced approximately the same.
midnightmagic: Bowjob: There's an *enormous* wave of mining customers coming soon-ish due to the sudden tidal wave price. Getting in line at this point for summertime asic is going to be a bad move..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 17 @ 0.00560002 = 0.0952 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: getting in line is always a bad move.
mircea_popescu: wtf is this even, "getting in line"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6115 @ 0.00076564 = 4.6819 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00077068 = 3.391 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1357 @ 0.00077069 = 1.0458 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: who here holds ltc :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00983 = 0.0983 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 11 @ 0.009821 = 0.108 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 28 @ 0.0075 = 0.21 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00573 = 0.573 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00561 = 0.561 BTC [-]
iz: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 35.20000, Best ask: 35.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 35.30000, 24 hour volume: 28845.84682379, 24 hour low: 33.98600, 24 hour high: 35.35000, 24 hour vwap: 34.73691
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 290 @ 0.00561 = 1.6269 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 319 @ 0.00561 = 1.7896 BTC [-]
Namworld: Who wants some S.DICE before the dividend arrives?
Namworld: (PT)
ThickAsThieves: &estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4859710.18648 based on data since last change | 4903754.75592 based on data for last three days
blu3gr1ffon: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.00000, Best ask: 36.00714, Bid-ask spread: 0.00714, Last trade: 36.00000, 24 hour volume: 34856.36975002, 24 hour low: 33.99871, 24 hour high: 36.15000, 24 hour vwap: 34.95547
ThickAsThieves: nice
blu3gr1ffon: ;;goxlag
gribble: 106.133771 seconds
kakobrekla: washappening
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.595 = 1.785 BTC [-]
Namworld: price going up again and again
Namworld: is what is happening
Namworld: No one wants S.DICE-PT?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.595 = 2.975 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.595 = 7.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 555 @ 0.00594999 = 3.3022 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 445 @ 0.00595 = 2.6478 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.034 = 0.068 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6771 @ 0.00076784 = 5.199 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1779 @ 0.00077999 = 1.3876 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.595 = 3.57 BTC [-]
maximian: Anyone know where Erik has been travelling?
Namworld: I think he went to the Earth's core or something. Unfortunately there's no vehicle capable of reaching there and he started his journey by jumping in a volcano.
mircea_popescu: lol what ?!
Namworld: Spouting random made up stuff.
TomServo: Isn't that the beginning of the Scientology story?
mircea_popescu: yeah lol
maximian: Maybe he's working on selling S.DICE to the crab people
Namworld: What? Is it?
Namworld: I thought spouting random stuff was Bitcoin's national sport.
Namworld: But apparently what I'm saying was not random at all.
mircea_popescu: :p
ZedsterX: depends on who ya ask
mircea_popescu: "everything new in this world is the history you didn't know"
maximian: So, someone moved 10,000 BTC back into MPEx:
maximian: http://blockchain.info/tx/34ee8eb5d04ec6a278223b0ea02a36c9104710e6cdd02a5d5ece9b03533d6b5e
ZedsterX: yeah that was me
maximian: Buy everything!
Bugpowder: too bad its erik
maximian: I'm thinking it's evoorhees
ZedsterX: be my guess
Namworld: I'm thinking S.DICE dividend
Namworld: Go S.DICE!
Bugpowder: its funny that he moved it all in instead of just 1750 though
maximian: But why 10k?
Namworld: hmm... nvm
Bugpowder: it is definitely him
Namworld: How do you know?
Namworld: Not sure why 10k
Bugpowder: because that address is from when he withdrew 10k last time
Bugpowder: and he said on the forum that he just deposited
Namworld: ah
Namworld: great
Bugpowder: Dunno why the whole 10k though
Bugpowder: prop up the S.DICE value post div ;-)
maximian: maybe he just didn't think about it, was in a hurry
topace: i dunno, if i was moving $350000 wort of coins, i think i'd stop to "think about it"
Bugpowder: on a mobile phone
Bugpowder: correction $363,800
midnightmagic: Namworld: scientoglogist prophet!
Bugpowder: correction 365,000
mircea_popescu: <maximian> But why 10k? he has to pay 50mn shares
Bugpowder: Only 13mn shares on the market.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1868 @ 0.00077999 = 1.457 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9982 @ 0.00078 = 7.786 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: but maybe I don't understand the backend
mircea_popescu: 13mn in third party hands on the market + 37 mn in erik's hands on the market = 50mn
mircea_popescu: +50mn which make up the golden ticket = 100mn, whole float.
Namworld: price is going... up
Namworld: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.31083, Best ask: 36.44000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12917, Last trade: 36.33499, 24 hour volume: 41528.95196789, 24 hour low: 33.99871, 24 hour high: 36.50000, 24 hour vwap: 35.17091
maximian: So he still has to pay divs to the 37mn shares that aren't on the market?
mircea_popescu: how aren't they on the market ?
Bugpowder: I new I should have waited a few more hours before buying something on bitcoinstore.com
maximian: I should say, that he hasn't sold yet
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: maximian well yes, shares get dividends.
mircea_popescu: makes no diff who owns them
Bugpowder: the confusion may come in the Dividends box
Bugpowder: info
maximian: So shouldn't last month's divs have been 10,000 BTC instead of 2,000?
mircea_popescu: maximian but last month there literally were only 10mn on the market.
Bugpowder: Hashrate over 40TH/s
maximian: ah, ok
maximian: as per contract
mircea_popescu: maximian this is designed to reinforce proof.
mircea_popescu: mpex won't let someone pay fewer shares than actually are issued
mircea_popescu: so every time a dividend is pay you actually know the actual exact total, from the receipt.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00078 = 4.68 BTC [+]
maximian: good to know. I had forgotten that the contracted allowed for evoorhees to put another 40mn shares on the market last month.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00594999 = 5.95 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: it also works to reinforce proof the other way
mircea_popescu: someone declares X dividends, he'd better be able to show the cash too
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 355 @ 0.00595 = 2.1123 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00597999 = 11.96 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: &estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4825329.9214 based on data since last change | 4946742.16185 based on data for last three days
Bugpowder: 36.53
Bugpowder: AAPL @ 2 year low
Bugpowder: GOOG at all time hi
mircea_popescu: ;;ident burnside
gribble: Nick 'burnside', with hostmask 'burnside!~burnside@', is not identified.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder im curious how Ts will go.
jurov: ;bc,convert eur
jurov: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 36.70000 U.S. dollars = 28.2568525 Euros
Bugpowder: yeah
Bugpowder: me too
ZedsterX: ;;bc,xau
gribble: 1 XAU = 1573.500000000000 USD = 43.0861572542 BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.3333 = 0.9999 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 30 @ 0.33317 = 9.9951 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: Got a good one for bitbet
Bugpowder: The price of a 25BTC Casascius coin > 1 Kruggerand.
mircea_popescu: haha put it in
Bugpowder: I should take a side by side pic and post to reddit as well.
mircea_popescu: totally.
Bugpowder: ;;calc 36.70*25
gribble: 917.5
Bugpowder: Hmm
Bugpowder: Whats a good time frame
Bugpowder: April 1?
Bugpowder: nah
Bugpowder: April 15?
ZedsterX: need at least a month
Bugpowder: lets just extrapolate linearly
Bugpowder: and use that as the date
Bugpowder: ;;calc 43/25
gribble: 1.72
Bugpowder: 34% growth last month
Bugpowder: lets do 2 months
ZedsterX: hate when ppl use math :)
mircea_popescu: 1st of may, worker's day
Bugpowder: yah
Eduard_Munteanu: Don't tell me MPEx is closed for 1st of May. :)
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: mpex hasn't actually been closed yet
mircea_popescu: much unlike everyone else.
mircea_popescu: there was a ~hour ddos a while back, but that's all.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.6 = 5.4 BTC [+]
blu3gr1ffon: who runs betsofbitco.in?
mircea_popescu: ;;ident FabianB
gribble: Nick 'FabianB', with hostmask 'FabianB!~ogg@unaffiliated/fabianb', is identified as user fabianb, with GPG key id 797C1106D52E79DF, key fingerprint 9B854E5F36B927C9C365F208797C1106D52E79DF, and bitcoin address 18Wnjc1fcWDboZDHNsn48URtwGaqRjPnAt
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.655 = 3.275 BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.65 = 5.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.65 = 7.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 0.65 = 10.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.65 = 3.9 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.65 = 32.5 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lol @O.BTCUSD.C370T
mircea_popescu: bot's out of options so the people are fighting!
mircea_popescu: !ticker btct asicminer-pt
assbot: [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC)
jurov: you're out of options? so early in month?
ZedsterX: there goes all my shares cuz getting BTC in DK over the weekend sucks
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.34499 = 1.725 BTC [+]
jurov: lmao "Budapest is known for a hub of scamming activity"
jurov: that primeasic thread starts being juicy
ZedsterX: heheh i just read that too
jurov: well, if the hungarian govt is considered, that's fair assessment
ZedsterX: ouch
parseval: Nice, the asicminer pass-through went active
mircea_popescu: jurov a shitton sold on those lines
mircea_popescu: actually budapest is known as a hub for porn.
jurov: mircea, have you seen wikipedia's world penis length map?
jurov: hungary looks like a piece of africa there
dub: fuuu .65
dub: temptation to sell rising
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.0055 = 0.0165 BTC [-]
Lyspooner: i hope kim dotcom gets credit for inventing bitcoin
Lyspooner: he's a much more flamboyant leader than, say, gavin
ZedsterX: isn't budapest Rocco Siffredi's home?
mircea_popescu: how's he a leader ?
dub: he is the man
ZedsterX: amen
Lyspooner: he will portray himself that way and the media will follow along
mircea_popescu: so like obama.
mircea_popescu: hey, i'm with you, i hope it happens
mircea_popescu: more drama -> more value for btc.
dub: kim is jesus
mircea_popescu: dub to quote some cartoon, he's jsut stupid and fat.
dub: idk about stupid, takes some ability to copy a business model and make buttloads off it
mircea_popescu: dub this crashes into your ideas about the chinese.
mircea_popescu: since they took ford's model and are currently raping the americans with it.
dub: I didn't say they were stupid
mircea_popescu: but you didn't say they're jesus either.
dub: that is true
Lyspooner: what is NAT.ROUTERS
mircea_popescu: kim's new project.
dub: I thought his new project was inventing crypto
mircea_popescu: broken js crypto, to be precise. he's done that.
mircea_popescu: now he invents ips
dub: Lyspooner: what does your question relate to?
Lyspooner: it's on the bottom of the mpex list of contracts
dub: right
dub: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139337.0 deathbylolipop need to get in on this
burnside: ;;ident burnside
gribble: Nick 'burnside', with hostmask 'burnside!~burnside@', is identified as user burnside, with GPG key id 990D4DB54ECDA3C6, key fingerprint 2EEB40C9DF5E25E6BD3A7BF8990D4DB54ECDA3C6, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: who pays 4 btc for that ?!
Lyspooner: caffeinewriter
burnside: <mircea_popescu> now what happens if six months down the road friedcat pulls a gigavps ? -- I think we would have to do the AML paperwork.
mircea_popescu: burnside i'm just saying, you are underwriting a lot of risk that you can't control.
burnside: definitely. thus the disclaimers in the contract.
mircea_popescu: thus also the liquidity disparity.
burnside: I'm more worried about their competition beating them out though than I am about friedcat running off.
mircea_popescu: it's not your fault, best i can see, just asicminer acting very weird.
burnside: Yeah, I can't figure out if it's the lack of sleep, or what.
dub: what is the weird acting?
mircea_popescu: dub baiscally they choked their investors by refusing to list to the point that people out of sheer desperations made private pts
mircea_popescu: now one of the most promising ipos of the year so far has been reduced to a 70 btc opening day.
dub: oh right
Namworld: god, why did I sold all these ASICMINER shares for 0.40 =/
dub: Namworld: want to buy some?
dub: 0.7 :)
mircea_popescu: lol
Namworld: no, not buying
mircea_popescu: Namworld the girl said .75 to 1.5
mircea_popescu: why don't you listen to the girl ? :D
Namworld: I sold some time ago? Before she even said anything I believe.
mircea_popescu: a well then there's your answer !
mircea_popescu: you sold earlier.
burnside: tbh tho, 0.4 is still 4x what you got 'em for, no?
mircea_popescu: i think he paid a little premium
burnside: not a bad return on ~6 months?
ZedsterX: i want to buy some but banks are too slow
Namworld: Also if Friedcat had shares trading again after GLBSE closed you would probably have been able to buy back my ASICMINER cheap to fill that short contract.
mircea_popescu: Namworld at any point between october and january they could have listed and been tip top shape
mircea_popescu: all through february and still acceptable
dub: mircea_popescu: so in reality your 'acting weird' could simply be explained by, inability to strategize
mircea_popescu: but march is already dropping the ball.
mircea_popescu: dub that is acting weird.
dub: to you maybe
dub: to me its just acting chinese
burnside: doh
mircea_popescu: i've not fucked enough chinese girls to have a clue so far.
Namworld: I should have bought these
Namworld: Instead of lending to Amazingrando.
dub: the failure here is your preconception of normal thiking
dub: thinking*
Anduck: Namworld: how much they're paying now?
mircea_popescu: Anduck they paid like 2% or something like that.
mircea_popescu: 2.5% mebbe
Namworld: ASICMINER already sent a first payment?
dub: yes
mircea_popescu: in other news, mpex db dump has been optimized to take up less space. nothing's broken, it's just naturally halfsized.
mircea_popescu: Namworld yes.
mod6: sweet!
Anduck: mircea_popescu: yeah they paid 0.025 btc/share
Anduck: or smth like that
Namworld: hmm... If you had bought back then 10k USD of bitcoins at 5 USD each for 2k BTC
Anduck: but i mean
Anduck: how much are they selling those shares for?
mircea_popescu: Anduck !ticker btct asicminer-pt
Anduck: !ticker btct asicminer-pt
assbot: [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.6502 / 0.655 (122 shares, 79.3 BTC)
Anduck: couldnt do it urself???
Namworld: and bought 20k ASICMINER (10k USD). You'd now have 20k x 0.65 BTC = 13 000 BTC worth
Anduck: yup
Anduck: =)
Namworld: or close to half a million dollar at today's prices
Anduck: i was lucky
mircea_popescu: Namworld no. things don't scale like that. you'd have ~70 btc's worth of shares and 12930 btc worth of paper & dreams.
Anduck: i bought asicminer with all my glbse stack xD
Namworld: mircea: I'm only evaluating current trading price.
Anduck: but -really- they buy asicminer for 0.65?? =D
mircea_popescu: ya but you'r extrapolating a little out of band
Namworld: As long as ASICMINER keeps up like that.
mircea_popescu: Anduck i think if you push burnside your stocks you get the pt and can trade
Namworld: Probably achievable.
Namworld: You could sell part for your initial 2k BTC no problem tho.
ThickAsThieves: you can push to Deadterra on BF too, he's free, and takes 0% of divs
Anduck: nah i dont wanna trade, mp
mircea_popescu: no Namworld. if asicminer keeps up like it's currently doing it'll go to shit.
mircea_popescu: they have to seriously adjust themselves.
ThickAsThieves: asicminer better get more hashing online soon
Namworld: eh
mircea_popescu: this is certainly an exciting spring
Namworld: on a sidenote
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.03 ** 30
gribble: 0
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 0.03 ** 30.0
gribble: 0
mircea_popescu: da fuck ?!
mircea_popescu: o
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.03 ** 30.0
gribble: 2.42726247119
dub: scale owned
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1.0003 ** 30.0
gribble: 1.00903925984
Anduck: uhh
mircea_popescu: wait. what ? you're paying 1% a month ?~
Namworld: Yeah
Namworld: A bit less
mircea_popescu: and people are actually sending you btc ?!
Namworld: 10.95% per year
Namworld: Yeah...
mircea_popescu: lol ok
mircea_popescu: but this is a. less than dividends for most stocks b. much less than mpoe bonds etc.
dub: this is btc
mircea_popescu: i guess so lol
Namworld: But daily interest, callable at face value anytime.
Namworld: I guess the possibility to withdraw at face value anytime is interesting enough.
mircea_popescu: we totally have to shed these paycheck loan faces off btc already
dub: Namworld: you pay interest daily? as divs oslt
blu3gr1ffon: I used to work in title loans and payday lending.
blu3gr1ffon: got away with %300 on title loans.
blu3gr1ffon: customers loved us too.
Namworld: dub: yes
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.1231 = 12.31 BTC [+]
Namworld: Comes to 300 satoshi per 0.01 BTC share daily.
B0g4r7_: Did you look at the cars?
B0g4r7_: I always wondered what would happen if I brought in the title to my wrecked car.
Namworld: It's not that bad actually.
mircea_popescu: B0g4r7 50-50 you'd get a loan
burnside: wow ltc is back on the rise. Network Hash Rate 1,018.123 GH/s
B0g4r7_: If I tried at a few different loan places the odds get pretty good.
blu3gr1ffon: B0g4r7_: we did, full checks. does it run, does it go into reverse, is anything spewing.
B0g4r7_: heh
blu3gr1ffon: then we'd give them 1/4 - 1/2 NADA value. they'd give us title
blu3gr1ffon: only way around lending laws.
mircea_popescu: did you have your lot and everything ?
blu3gr1ffon: we housed at our associates property. tow lot.
B0g4r7_: title loans and tows.
blu3gr1ffon: good times.
B0g4r7_: Throw in a bail bondsman, a PI, and a debt collection agency and you've got a full house.
blu3gr1ffon: WE got into it from check cashing, so we were half-way there.
blu3gr1ffon: in house collections. nice to know a skilled skip tracer
blu3gr1ffon: course, internets makes their job easier these days
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.005501 = 5.501 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.005501 = 5.501 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.005501 = 5.501 BTC [+]
Lyspooner: in 2001 kim dotcom bought 375,000 EUR worth of shares in letsbuyit.com and subsequently announced is intention to invest 50 million euros in the company.
Lyspooner: the announcement caused the share value of letsbuyit.com to jump and dotcom cashed out, making a profit of 1.5 million eur
dub: an den?
Lyspooner: and then he was arrested
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 661 @ 0.005501 = 3.6362 BTC [+]
Lyspooner: this time he won't be arrested
dub: pretty sure he's gettign extradited from nz
pgp: ::ticker
pgp: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.27000, Best ask: 36.27099, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 36.27700, 24 hour volume: 44153.48588405, 24 hour low: 34.16966, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.37953
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner he's in jail already neh ?
dub: no
mircea_popescu: orly ?
dub: he's on some form of bail iirc
dub: judge gave him bail after a bunch of illegal shit about his arrest surfaced
mircea_popescu: o o i recall
mircea_popescu: illegal surveillance, nz being a puppet state, yeah
dub: yeah
mircea_popescu: the usual "we confiscate all your money now you go ahead hire lawyers"
mircea_popescu: and all that jazz.
dub: and the lulzy.. spook dept. that isnt allowed to spy on nz citizens, didn't know he was a citizen
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.27100, Best ask: 36.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02900, Last trade: 36.30000, 24 hour volume: 44219.25916777, 24 hour low: 34.16966, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.38096
mircea_popescu: dude the oix is coming true omfg.
kakobrekla: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 36.30000 U.S. dollars = 27.9488759 Euros
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you seeing this shit ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00525106 = 2.6255 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: fuck this
kakobrekla: avearage iq on the forum is -20
Bugpowder: seiing what?
dub: nowai?
Bugpowder: Kim?
dub: Kim is about to dump, suggset panic selling
Bugpowder: Lol
Bugpowder: nah he is gonna pump this shit up.
Bugpowder: Now my wife's girlfriends are asking me how to buy coins.
dub: FUCK
kakobrekla: yeah
kakobrekla: its a bubble when u get that.
kakobrekla: jk
Bugpowder: not yet
dub: yerp
Bugpowder: gotta be the shoeshiners
Bugpowder: when they tip you off. Time to sell.
error4733: it's a trap
pgp: hi
dub: sup, you Kim Dotcom?
Bugpowder: dude
Bugpowder: you gotta get MEGA to IPO on MPEX
dub: he invented pgp yo
pgp: lol initials
mjr___: jurov: you around?
mjr___: by the way, good job on the OIX mircea
jurov: mjr___ what's up?
mjr___: just referred my friend
mjr___: :)
mircea_popescu: cool
mjr___: he signed up for coinbr, did the referral code and all that work out right?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00077308 = 6.7258 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i have no idea tbh
jurov: nice.
jurov: but he has to fund to be able to do anything ofc.
mjr___: yeah he sent 30
jurov: ah, that was him. yes, it's well.
mjr___: waiting on it to verify now, i think
mjr___: haven't checked blockchain info in a few min
mjr___: ok, got two so far :)
jurov: oh someone sent 30 yest.. so this is other one
mjr___: buy buy buy
mjr___: yes, just sent it
mjr___: i'm actually on his comp right now, he prob goes by pgp
mjr___: but he hasn't talked much on this channel
mjr___: your the best jurov thanks a bunch
jurov: :) had to forward it, need to wait a bit
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0056 = 16.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.596 = 12.516 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.595 = 2.975 BTC [-]
dub: dice div come through?
Bugpowder: not yet
Bugpowder: deposit is in though
kakobrekla: assbot will tell you when that happens
mircea_popescu: where's that pic of the cats
mircea_popescu: and yes, assbot now says
kakobrekla: he will fart out the dividend.
kakobrekla: it
kakobrekla: she for jurov
jurov: mircea_popescu, will you delist s.dice if erik won't make it in 3 hours?
kakobrekla: DOO IT
mircea_popescu: lol.
mircea_popescu: well, actually, the 5th is tomorrow
jurov: it says before 5th
Bowjob: OMG
Bowjob: Look at that bitbet
Bowjob: xD
Bowjob: 200 BTC on NO
Bowjob: Woww
Bowjob: hahahaha
mircea_popescu: (e)The representatives of SatoshiDice solemnly promise and warrant that complete and accurate Statements of Profit and Loss for each calendar month will be published by them no later than by the fifth day of the new month.
mircea_popescu: (f)Immediately upon publication of each Statement of Profit and Loss SatoshiDice will pay to shareholders
mircea_popescu: well... e he did, f however no. let's see what he's up to
mircea_popescu: Bowjob which one ?
Bowjob: the BFL one
Bowjob: I was leaning on "yes" since apparently they are getting their shit together.. now im not sure again
Bowjob: Yifu apparently bet on the BFL march bet and won a fuckton
Bowjob: http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
mircea_popescu: which was he, the 700 or the 600 ?
Bowjob: huh,.?
Bowjob: he's probably the one who put up 300++ BTC
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/
mircea_popescu: le wow, 10:1 huh
Bowjob: mhm. I thought it was you
mircea_popescu: maybe it's josh
dub: haha wtf
dub: trendon shavers showing up in my linkedin cloud
kakobrekla: lol
iz: lol
iz: add him
dub: I have no bitcoiners on there so srsly wtfing
iz: and endorce him for pyramid marketing
dub: PH there too
kakobrekla: maybe its groping the scammurs
dub: I must have stalked them at some point
iz: dub: http://www.bash.org/?115
guruvan: what's up in here - been a minute since I've been in
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/284/primeasic-has-a-miner/
mircea_popescu: there we go.
mircea_popescu: o hi guruvan
guruvan: ohai MP - how's things? good to see you
dub: iz: lol
B0g4r7_: Does bitbet work linke BoB where they close the statement to betting if it becomes moot?
guruvan: mircea_popescu: bitbet looks pretty good - was checking it out today some
mircea_popescu: i think it's getting some traction
B0g4r7_: Like, suppose BFL ships March 10, will the bet still be open?
mircea_popescu: at least by the cooked graphs i have here.
B0g4r7_: I know they won't but if they did...
mircea_popescu: B0g4r7 nah, once it's clear a bet ended early they get closed
mircea_popescu: it's not INSTANTANEOUS mind you,
mircea_popescu: but nevertheless.
B0g4r7_: http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=447
B0g4r7_: "If no product has shipped by February 28th/2013, the product shall be considered vapourware and the statement shall be ruled as draw."
B0g4r7_: I just got refunded for that one.
mircea_popescu: umm
mircea_popescu: wait,d raw ?!
mircea_popescu: wtf bullshit bfl sponsored meni rosenfeld crap is this
B0g4r7_: ya rly
mircea_popescu: "we're making a bet except if we lose it's really get our money back"
dub: why does only faggy shit get through bash.org mods
dub: http://www.bash.org/?952948
mircea_popescu: no wonder josh was spewing all that bs about bitbet.
mircea_popescu: kinda hurts to have people that won't push scams huh.
Bugpowder: yeah I was going to drop major coin on that bfl bet, then I read the fine print.... DRAW?
dub: none of the comedy gold I've submitted over the years has made it
B0g4r7_: "This is gold, Jerry! Pure gold!"
kakobrekla: bah bitbet is so red
kakobrekla: cmon guys be more positive
Bowjob: lol. Im confused now.. I want to be on blue.. but WTF
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 846 @ 0.005501 = 4.6538 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/284/primeasic-has-a-miner/ somebody likes prime ?
Bugpowder: It's the 10% of advertised specs part that has me worried
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 12/0.07
gribble: 171.428571429
ThickAsThieves: &estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4900626.90236 based on data since last change | 4958374.43923 based on data for last three days
B0g4r7_: Maybe primeasic pirated Avalon's chip design.
B0g4r7_: It'd be about right for the power numbers.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.5951 = 2.3804 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.595 = 2.975 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: chinese guy's hungarian girlfriend ?
jurov: if avalon is really a fpga's hardcopy, baybe they just used same blob
kakobrekla: lol
B0g4r7_: hardcopy doesn't come in QFN.
mircea_popescu: it'd be really retarded to make asics as fpga hardcopy wtf.
mircea_popescu: nobody can be that dumb
Bowjob: who knows about blockhain.info here
Bowjob: they are posting the wrong totals on my account
Bowjob: http://blockchain.info/address/152mAXabBVjB58bASMzZEJzPPU84gEgjZR
Bowjob: it should have 195 BTC on that address, not 169
Bowjob: my electrum says 195..
Bowjob: this transaction doesnt make sense, I only spent 56 BTC here
Bowjob: http://blockchain.info/tx/a1a8111cb8c26e8ae1a06dcf1895e0b0e52c084673a9df5cc703abff0a48336c
Bowjob: it says 82 total
Bowjob: wtf
dub: every other bash quote is from some homo efnet oper
dub: its a fucking circlejerk
mircea_popescu: dub welcome to internets
mircea_popescu: Bowjob prolly best harass piuk in forum
mircea_popescu: and also tell him to get on irc :D
B0g4r7_: Bowjob, the rest got sent to a "balance address".
Bowjob: whats a balance address
Bowjob: fyi, I only used 1 address ^
mircea_popescu: Bowjob that's how we make money.
B0g4r7_: I'm not entirely clear on it. I think it happens when it needs to split funds or something.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin financial elite steals from ordinary users by redirecting some random % of some txs
B0g4r7_: It gets sent to a newly-generated address that then gets placed i your wallet.
B0g4r7_: in
B0g4r7_: The ppl in #bitcoin-dev would know better.
Bowjob: eh.. i dont understand lol
mircea_popescu: Bowjob it's like this : you can only spend a WHOLE input.
iz: B0g4r7_: so you had 82.308 in a single bitcoin address, and you wanted to spend 56.82.. so 56.82 goes to where you want to spend it, and then 25.48 comes back in change to one of your new randomly generated wallet addresses
mircea_popescu: like, if you have 50 btc, the next time you spend ANY btc yougotta spend the whole 50
B0g4r7_: iz: pretty much.
mircea_popescu: the way this works in practice is that you send however much to who you owe
mircea_popescu: and the rest to another address of yours
mircea_popescu: and iz iz fasterz than mez ;/
Bowjob: but.. one thing I don't get.. where is that 25 BTC sent?
Bowjob: I use electrum, only 5 addys
Bowjob: I checked the rest, I don't have them
mircea_popescu: hm
B0g4r7_: It goes to a newly-generated address in your wallet.
Bowjob: but I can't see the address?
B0g4r7_: The addresses are hidden somehow (maybe?)
B0g4r7_: idk Electrum really.
Bowjob: yes, its hidden.. umm, but my total says 200 BTC
Bowjob: so it must be here, then its hidden? wtf
B0g4r7_: Maybe ask #electrum
Bowjob: mmk
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00175 = 0.875 BTC [-]
blu3gr1ffon: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.01100, Best ask: 36.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28900, Last trade: 36.01100, 24 hour volume: 45723.66365557, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.42630
Bowjob: yeap.
Bowjob: 1G6evBnvqzZ3mDoxbjWivFLVzcG9JBhfXR
Bowjob: It's in this address.. I just don't see it on my client
maximian: mircea_popescu: so evoorhees will actually have to issue a dividend of 6619BTC to cover all 50,000,000 shares?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: maximian im not sure of the exact figure. how much did sdice make in feb ?
maximian: 13000+ BTC
mircea_popescu: then yes
maximian: evoorhees wrote that he'll be paying 1721BTC, which I assume he calculated based on 13M shares, which works out to 0.00013238 per share
maximian: OK
mircea_popescu: course most of it goes back to him i imagine, so it prolly works out to that
maximian: right
maximian: but yeah, a great way to verify income
maximian: at least half of it anyway
kakobrekla: o looky https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147914.msg1582968#msg1582968
mircea_popescu: maximian kinda the idea.
mircea_popescu: o hey check that stuff out!
Lyspooner: on bitbet, create a long-dated bet with a close to 50-50 outcome, bet both sides of it, take advantage of the early weighting part of the algorithm
Lyspooner: amirite
mircea_popescu: may work, yes.
mircea_popescu: you underwrite the marketmaker risk for a possible profit down the road.
mircea_popescu: im sure as more people figure out what's what there's going to be bookmaking of this sort, for everyone's benefit
mircea_popescu: (ocasional better gets stabler odds)
Lyspooner: it's an interesting way to earn positive interest rates on deposits at the expense of later bettors
mircea_popescu: leading bitcoin financial instruments since 2012.
Lyspooner: what, bitbet?
Bugpowder: Lyspooner: yes of course
Bugpowder: This is what I did with the NFL bets
Bugpowder: Also set the ratio at the real moneyline
Lyspooner: nice
Lyspooner: i did something like that, where i just bought a bunch of bitcoins with money
Bugpowder: There is actually an optimal amount to rebet as well, against any bets that move the odds away from the line
Bugpowder: however rebetting only works well if you have set the time decay such that there is little or no decay
Bowjob: http://i45.tinypic.com/2uz8ao3.png
Bowjob: My prediction back in december
Bowjob: boy I was wrong
Bowjob: lol
kakobrekla: critticall did a better job.
Bowjob: LTC is now at 13 cents.. da fuck is going on
dub: retards
mircea_popescu: retards must has bubble.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4018 @ 0.00078 = 3.134 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000781 = 7.81 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00078284 = 2.6617 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0055001 = 3.3001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.01300, Best ask: 36.33600, Bid-ask spread: 0.32300, Last trade: 36.01300, 24 hour volume: 46753.53869852, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.45420
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.07110, Best ask: 36.33000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25890, Last trade: 36.07110, 24 hour volume: 46733.12002181, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.45680
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 65 @ 0.0059 = 0.3835 BTC [+]
Bowjob: the electrum irc is useless
Bowjob: everyone there is in limbo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4001 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 5 @ 0.18595405 = 0.9298 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.595 = 2.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 6,621.40925 BTC to 50`000`000 shares, 13242 satoshi per share
maximian: nice!
mircea_popescu: cool.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4000101 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 15 @ 1.40001001 = 21.0002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34499 = 0.69 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1620 @ 0.005967 = 9.6665 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: wait.
mircea_popescu: what the fucking hell it downtrends pre div and then UPTRENDS post div ?
Bugpowder: As usual
mircea_popescu: does this make any sense ?!
Bugpowder: Maybe if people think he ain't gonna pay
mircea_popescu: i guess...
mircea_popescu: maybe somebody was trying to create a sell panic
Bugpowder: Small volume anyway
mircea_popescu: this is true
mircea_popescu: maybe some people reinvesting divs
Bugpowder: Yeah that is it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00596998 = 2.388 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00596999 = 11.94 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Most likely
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4600 @ 0.00597 = 27.462 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 619 @ 0.00598 = 3.7016 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 147 @ 0.00599999 = 0.882 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1661 @ 0.00599999 = 9.966 BTC [+]
maximian: oooh
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.006 = 30 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00600768 = 6.0077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7695 @ 0.00611032 = 47.0189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3536 @ 0.00620077 = 21.9259 BTC [+]
error4733: "maybe some people reinvesting divs"
ThickAsThieves: is why it always goes up after divs, it's a testament to SDICE's allure
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00500002 / 0.00587605 / 0.00620077 (53227 shares, 312.76 BTC), 7D: 0.0048 / 0.00584889 / 0.0063799 (341165 shares, 1,995.44 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00595448 / 0.007395 (6741410 shares, 40,141.61 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 700 @ 0.0015 = 1.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5652 @ 0.00078628 = 4.4441 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1399 @ 0.00075212 = 1.0522 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16940 @ 0.00075072 = 12.7172 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2280000 @ 0.00075 = 1710 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 96 @ 0.0059 = 0.5664 BTC [+]
blu3gr1f1on: I wish betbet resolutions were as fast as s.dices.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00620076 = 1.2402 BTC [-]
the_silent_wande: hey, can anyone tell me if this last bet on http://bitbet.us/bet/267/btc-usd-at-mt-gox-will-hit-35-in-march/ will be refunded?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5336 @ 0.00620077 = 33.0873 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 134464 @ 0.006225 = 837.0384 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if only that were possible.
the_silent_wande: because I made that bet like three hours before it got confirmed, and I really want it to not be refunded.
mircea_popescu: the_silent_wande not likely
blu3gr1f1on: it would make you a sort of magical unicorn, able to determine outcomes of user submitted gobshite bets
mircea_popescu: still like 5 days to go or w/e
the_silent_wande: mircea_popescu thank you.
blu3gr1f1on: the_silent_wande: are you the last bet for 1btc?
the_silent_wande: yes
the_silent_wande: <blu3gr1f1on> yeah
blu3gr1f1on: good timing
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6295 = 2.518 BTC [+]
blu3gr1f1on: did you include a mining fee?
blu3gr1f1on: when you sent your bet?
the_silent_wande: I sent via Coinbase.com
blu3gr1f1on: you should not keep coins there. buy them, and MOVE THEM.
blu3gr1f1on: great way to get your hands on them. poor way to store them.
blu3gr1f1on: unless interested in privacy
blu3gr1f1on: btw
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136243652861.jpg
mircea_popescu: pic unrelated.
blu3gr1f1on: flexible
BitHub: what happened with PrimeAsic?
BitHub: legit?
mircea_popescu: we don't know yet.
mircea_popescu: bitbet says like 100:1 legit, but i dunno.
BitHub: i like those odds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6295 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.12260046 = 1122.6005 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 96 @ 0.0061 = 0.5856 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 564 @ 0.00617 = 3.4799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.12080012 = 1120.8001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: eh
mircea_popescu: this has all the makings of adventuer
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.34499 = 2.0699 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00617 = 0.617 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
BitHub: .65 hey
jcpham: 36.40 nbd
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.22123, Best ask: 36.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17877, Last trade: 36.40000, 24 hour volume: 47630.33370173, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.51830
Chaang-Noi: wow.. i really should sleep more often
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34600 @ 0.00075 = 25.95 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: ltc too...
dub: a wild libertard appears http://dailyreckoning.com/boycott-bitcoin/
error4733: hey, i need 3 mate to try poker at https://strikesapphire.com/
error4733: freeroll in 20min but need 4 players to start
Namworld: I'll login
mircea_popescu: dub sign bitcoin's breaking into mainstream
mircea_popescu: error4733 who runs that ?
Bowjob: Ooh. quite a huge buy
Namworld: where?
Bowjob: oh , i was talking about dice
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.39746, Best ask: 36.39929, Bid-ask spread: 0.00183, Last trade: 36.39930, 24 hour volume: 47668.19097261, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.52726
BitHub: hey anyone selling BTC in AUD? yeah i've tried otc
mircea_popescu: maybe ukto
BitHub: hmmm nah
BitHub: maybe mircea
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.00078 = 0.0031 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00196 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.00196 = 0.196 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.00195 = 0.195 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 30 @ 0.00195 = 0.0585 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 1000
gribble: There are currently 62067.62 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 6529233.27387 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0033 seconds
Chaang-Noi: who has 6 million fiat on gox?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075 = 3.75 BTC [-]
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.16100, Best ask: 36.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18900, Last trade: 36.39999, 24 hour volume: 46677.07588137, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.55065
Bowjob: just an ordinary day in bitcoinland
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075 = 3.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11601409 = 1116.0141 BTC [-]
error4733: sorry Namworld.. i forgot about asking here... I just want so see if it's better than sealclub
error4733: mp : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137440.msg1465041#msg1465041
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11601409 = 1116.0141 BTC [-]
dub: error4733: haven't been on there for a while, have they actually got players these days? used to be a ghost town
Chaang-Noi: ;;calc 47.08908/2000
gribble: 0.02354454
dub: I for one support any site that takes users away from micon
Chaang-Noi: micron sold it right?
dub: seals?
Chaang-Noi: i thought so
pigeons: he's the pro, he didn't own it
Chaang-Noi: i might be wrong
Chaang-Noi: okay, well who ever had it i think sold it
dub: oh, I stopped playing there because he's an assclown
[\\\]: micon never owned seals afaik
Chaang-Noi: when your paid pro gets business to stop playing lol
[\\\]: he was just a talking head
Chaang-Noi: i just remeber reading about seals being sold, i dont know by whom or to whom
pigeons: way to spread the facts ;)
Chaang-Noi: i try!
Bugpowder: Seals is run by shady poker scammers
dub: I like this ssaCEO's style however, he's like the al swearengen of pr
Bugpowder: According to a friend who knows them from way back in poker land
pigeons: this channel is the no gossip express today
[\\\]: cocksucka!
[\\\]: Wu!
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11601409 = 1116.0141 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: ltc is not a btc assets but anyone know why it went up 100% in 1.5 days?
pigeons: kimdotcom is accepting it for mega and pirate will pay everyone back in ltc
[\\\]: Chaang-Noi: same reason bitcoin has gone up 5% a day for the last several weeks.
dub: I think more likely because eskimobobs ugly mug mining operation is getting underway
pigeons: i've got one of those mugs and it is gorgeous actually
pigeons: but eskimobobs ugly mug mining operation sounds better
[\\\]: its like calling a chunk of frozen tundra greenland
[\\\]: and a chunk of beautiful land iceland
Chaang-Noi: pigeons the mug is pretty cool?
Chaang-Noi: ill have to look into getting one
pigeons: yeah i already posted pictures maybe again later
Chaang-Noi: oh, yeah if you do send link please, thanks
dub: inb4 the mug gives you aids
Chaang-Noi: lol, are we all drunk/high on caffine today? :)
Chaang-Noi: or did i miss out on a meme
[\\\]: high on rice
pigeons: i don't think its aids, i think maybe i just have mono
Chaang-Noi: ahh, pigeons is sick, sorry to hear that man
pigeons: but its a pretty mug
dub: pretty fucking ugly
Chaang-Noi: beer mug, coffee mug?
dub: aids mug
[\\\]: mug shot
Chaang-Noi: lol,
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5815 @ 0.00074361 = 4.3241 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11362916 = 1113.6292 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00614 = 0.0307 BTC [+]
dub: srsly though a home made out of who knows what mixture of clay, mud and the feces eskimoboob probably smears all over himself
dub: poorly glazed, porous, harbouring all manner bacteria and auto-immune disease
dub: be prepared for a slow and painful death shitting yourself inside out from dysentery
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11303376 = 1113.0338 BTC [-]
Bugpowder_: some big fucking positions
mircea_popescu: dub srsly ?
mircea_popescu: i been sorta watching his venture peripherally, i find the idea rather amusing
dub: well, if you are comfortable easting your cornflakes out of any random homless persons asshole then go right ahead
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder_ like 5k went today
Bugpowder_: 7k
dub: in food hygene terms its the same thing
Bugpowder_: so far
Bugpowder_: going to 10k
Bugpowder_: probably
mircea_popescu: yah right you are
mircea_popescu: definitely record month
mircea_popescu: and it's only the 5th o wow.
[\\\]: congrats
[\\\]: give the girl a raise
mircea_popescu: i wonder if i'm gonna live to regret these
mircea_popescu: worst racket in the world, if you have no trade you're depressed, if you get trade you're worried.
mircea_popescu: dub it's amusing inasmuch as there's this new trend among the terminally retarded lefties
mircea_popescu: "make art a business"
mircea_popescu: as fucking if a. what they did was art and b. you can make money at art w/o an elite
dub: mircea_popescu: hey if he can scrape a living out of exploiting hippies thats fine. Putting anything you plan to ingest in a home made pottery receptacle is gastric russian roulette
mircea_popescu: it's so broken i can't put it in words
mircea_popescu: dub right, cause the hippies have dough.
mircea_popescu: through the process of what ? alchemy ?
dub: its not my model bro
mircea_popescu: unless he starts distributing tokes as dividends...
[\\\]: wait, you invested in dankbank?
mircea_popescu: someone invested in that ?
dub: as long has pigeons has exploding colon insurance he'll be fine too
mircea_popescu: you know there's some vitamin that you only get by eating dirt basically ?
[\\\]: yeah, its called "vitamin stupid"
mircea_popescu: no dood.
dub: vitamin lysteria
mircea_popescu: http://www.google.com/search?q=vitamin+dirt&complete=0
mircea_popescu: ahaha totally. vitamin b. haters.
dub: er listeria
dub: firstly there's no vitamin b its a group of vitamins and you get them from lots of places
mircea_popescu: dirt!
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11124958 = 1111.2496 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well really, some bacteria which unlike us can synthesize it
dub: eatign dirt is not a good idea, listeria is a very nasty way to die
dub: need vit. b? drink red bull you'll live longer
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00408 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 0.65 = 9.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 91 @ 0.00614 = 0.5587 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: 36.8 crazy
Chaang-Noi: oh shit asicminer-pt is trading:)
BitHub: i just got some on BitFunder
Chaang-Noi: what is it trading at bitfunder?
BitHub: same price i think
Chaang-Noi: cool, .65 is a good number
Chaang-Noi: what is the webiste for btctc ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 49 @ 0.00615 = 0.3014 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i dont know the name of that other exchange :/
BitHub: this might sound really n00b but is there a way to exchange between PT's
Namworld: No, not really, why?
Chaang-Noi: btct.co
Namworld: What PT do you hold?
Chaang-Noi: you could but it would be a pain in the ass
BitHub: for example say i want an asset on BF but i only have a mpex account but i could buy an asset on BF using or leveraging an asset i have on MPEX to buy that asset on BF
Namworld: Not sure I understand what you mean...
dub: havelock has just implemented that
BitHub: i dont know like i said i'm probably being a real n00b
dub: (if I understood correctly)
thestringpuller: Don't trust havelock
thestringpuller: Havelock is controlled by the Borg.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34499 BTC [+]
thestringpuller: !ticker m S.MPOE
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00074361 / 0.00075087 / 0.00078628 (2432192 shares, 1,826.28 BTC), 7D: 0.0007147 / 0.00075245 / 0.00078628 (3534723 shares, 2,659.72 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067759 / 0.00078628 (62988367 shares, 42,680.30 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.1100618 = 1110.0618 BTC [-]
BitHub: ahh okey dub
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 41.20198681 / 46.0855546 (no shares, 6,242.04 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Namworld: some S.DICE-PT available for 0.00599
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.85901, Best ask: 36.89300, Bid-ask spread: 0.03399, Last trade: 36.89300, 24 hour volume: 48595.38328206, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 36.90000, 24 hour vwap: 35.65034
thestringpuller: hmm
Namworld: what, we're already hitting 37
error4733: not fun for me, since i start in december
error4733: it was ALWAYS rally time
Namworld: I bought in at 5 USD and 10 USD
error4733: and sold at ?
Namworld: Haven't sold, lost them to some bad "miner"
Namworld: Mostly
error4733: sick
error4733: but u're still in
dub: bad miner?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00584168 = 0.5842 BTC [-]
error4733: bad invest in ASCISMINER right ?
mircea_popescu: error4733 give it time, it may collapse once more.
Namworld: ASICMINER is selling for 6x what it IPOed at
error4733: mp : obv, i'm not like i bet my house on infinite rally
error4733: in fact yes, but it's a other question
error4733: i hope a crash for a good re entry spot
mircea_popescu: lol wghat ?!
BitHub: i'm going to make a long term 100 play
BitHub: so anything under 100$ is good enough for me
BitHub: lets do it
error4733: so u mining with gpu ?
Namworld: no, was lending to Amazingrando, waiting to have enough for a BFL rig. But Amazingrando never repaid.
error4733: when i should stop mining with GPU if i thinks BTC'll hit 200$ ?
dub: how much does your power cost
error4733: i never start but
mircea_popescu: if you never started then don't start.
BitHub: so i guess PrimeAsic was fake?
mircea_popescu: BitHub why ?
BitHub: that's what i'm asking
BitHub: was it?
aiball: !ticker .sbbet
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
BitHub: site's down
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.82002, Best ask: 36.94000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11998, Last trade: 36.80000, 24 hour volume: 49186.53224211, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 37.00000, 24 hour vwap: 35.67406
Chaang-Noi: 37 wow
mircea_popescu: afaik we don't know yet.
aiball: ;;ticker s.bbet
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0015 / 0.00175636 / 0.00197 (76200 shares, 133.83 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00176507 / 0.00197 (79498 shares, 140.32 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00165614 / 0.00197 (128608 shares, 212.99 BTC)
aiball: thanks!
BitHub: ahhh okey
mircea_popescu: bitbet bet gives them good odds of being real, but i dunno.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 375 @ 1.10887536 = 415.8283 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00878 BTC [+]
dub: error4733: if you had cheap power and efficient GPUs you're good till around 100mn diff
error4733: neither of the two...
mircea_popescu: sooo, is that the end of it ?
error4733: thinks so
BitHub: hmmmm
error4733: but i want try, i think it's a good way to learn BTC
error4733: don't care about the 0.000000475 btc/day
error4733: good way also to understand altcoin, why is good, why is a scam
dub: not sure it is tbh, theres also teh heat, noise, decreased MTBF of your hardware
dub: might be fun to give it a try but I wouldn't be buying new GPUs at this point unless you plan to pwn n00bs with them on the side
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00561 = 28.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00560001 = 11.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.005501 = 2.2004 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.005501 = 1.1002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 19900 @ 0.0054 = 107.46 BTC [-]
error4733: no one be objective with altcoin bc they old one but hate the new one, etc
Chaang-Noi: og fuck yeah http://www.namecheap.com/support/payment-options/bitcoin.aspx
mircea_popescu: ok, that's great.
thismustb: hey guys, do you know any MT4 trading platforms that allow leverage and would let you have a live account with not that much money?
mircea_popescu: thismustb kakobrekla's thing maybe ?
thismustb: yea thats why i went to this channel but his site says 50BTC min deposit
thismustb: that's a bit steep at current rates