mircea_popescu: sucks.

mircea_popescu: cia party & barhopping special unit

mircea_popescu: it was funny, cause when he went the other ddos was recent

mircea_popescu: sorta like a bridge in tiem for him

mircea_popescu: necessarily on the forum

mircea_popescu: lol so our friendly ddosers actually wiped the upstream provider.

mircea_popescu: NOW mpex is offline.

mircea_popescu: i guess never scorn a script kiddie.

mircea_popescu: anyway. should be resolved momentarily.

mircea_popescu: the worst case scenario is we move over to tor.

mircea_popescu: that'd likely be a coupla days of downtime.

mircea_popescu: in between these extremes a number of intermediate solutions.

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla well anything on the internet is limited by the internet actually existing.

mircea_popescu: jurov yes, it could.

mircea_popescu: but i dislike this sort of solutions, just hop around dcs ?

mircea_popescu: what if i need to take a piss one day ?

mircea_popescu: this is a small scale garden variety tor implementation.

mircea_popescu: why ?

mircea_popescu: Lyspooner shush you, you're not the one with the suspended exchange.

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla mpex would be on tor, proxies would be on normal web.

mircea_popescu: problem is it's slow

mircea_popescu: well look, ddos mitigation is an exercise in moving upstream.

mircea_popescu: what i had here was enough to make 10-100 Gb attacks ineffectual.

mircea_popescu: someone taking down all tor nodes is a coupla degrees of magnitude over that.

mircea_popescu: half of gnax atlanta is dark atm.

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla not really, you can actually trace to source with http proxies.

mircea_popescu: may take a week or two, sure.

mircea_popescu: possibly.

mircea_popescu: lmao

mircea_popescu: lmao ahaghaha

mircea_popescu: try mpex.co nao

mircea_popescu: hey, people wanna show off their muscle, let them show it off to people who care.

mircea_popescu: i imagine yes.

mircea_popescu: i figure i got a 1% shot of making us national news.

mircea_popescu: mod6 what ?!

mircea_popescu: don't tell me it's down

mircea_popescu: a a

mircea_popescu: yeah

mircea_popescu: lol it has no hole

mircea_popescu: lol i just got an actual proper page

mircea_popescu: 30day Total Volume 133`707.57454204 BTC

mircea_popescu: this look stale to anyone ?

mircea_popescu: im guffawing over here

mircea_popescu: interesting

mircea_popescu: went as high as 500k

mircea_popescu: well that worked.

mircea_popescu: leson learned : when someone throws a quarter tb of crap at you

mircea_popescu: point to something white and get out of the way

mircea_popescu: he's thinking of robert's sister, henry.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: "also, no coins"

mircea_popescu: wait

mircea_popescu: mtgox got flumoxxed too ?

mircea_popescu: lmao ok ok

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

mircea_popescu: mtv still exists ?!

mircea_popescu: BitHub i acrtually had some outfit in chicago to do me a short

mircea_popescu: sadly they flaked out.

mircea_popescu: was last year.

mircea_popescu: a short film.

mircea_popescu: nah.

mircea_popescu: you know the "are you the brain specialist" monthy python sketch ?

mircea_popescu: so it was going to be a remake of that, except with the

mircea_popescu: Are you the Bitcoin Financialist

mircea_popescu: would have been hysterical

mircea_popescu: was just about the time the various idiots were popping post-pirate

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the only bitcoin service hacked by the white house ?

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol @forum

mircea_popescu: Namworld just because of btc/usd ?

mircea_popescu: o hey. "mpoe surges on news of failed ddos"

mircea_popescu: o that too ya

mircea_popescu: "mpex the first bitcoin business to implement quantitative easing"

mircea_popescu: in case anyone doesn't know what http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-05/merkel-looks-east-for-austerity-allies-in-talks-with-hollande.html is all about :

mircea_popescu: holland was forever trying to block romania's access to schengen zone

mircea_popescu: germany joined them recently

mircea_popescu: bucharest shocked them by going fu, we don't want in anymore.

mircea_popescu: merkel is now backpedalling.

mircea_popescu: bucharest 1 : berlin 0.

mircea_popescu: yeah

mircea_popescu: lol kakobrekla http://pastebin.com/XU3Wf9gu

mircea_popescu: jurov hearn is a muppet.

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i enjoyed the reply.

mircea_popescu: o wait, puts trading ?

mircea_popescu: that's new.

mircea_popescu: anyway, everyone got their mpex/wh screencaps etc ?

mircea_popescu: dub badly composed tx ? (insufficient outputs)

mircea_popescu: dub sadly i was going to do that april 1st

mircea_popescu: but now it's lost all its cache ;/

mircea_popescu: cachet*

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: doctor_pullfingr flush your dns

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: ineededausername not rly.

mircea_popescu: i personally blame nefario

mircea_popescu: why not to bit kimdoing

mircea_popescu: bit baitboom

mircea_popescu: Bowjob http://mpex.coinbr.com/

mircea_popescu: Bugpowder_ actually tax thing is a major disincentive to selling for many ppl.

mircea_popescu: sucks to be you.

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

mircea_popescu: o le wow.

mircea_popescu: oho

mircea_popescu: boys and girls... this looks like the end.

mircea_popescu: Bugpowder_ the put short was sold 1.3-1.1 iirc

mircea_popescu: nobody can afford to outpay s.dice

mircea_popescu: consequently, all the libertards will get pushed out of bitcoin

mircea_popescu: i'm rejoicing.

mircea_popescu: definitely covering

mircea_popescu: nice race too, i wonder how much they manage to squeeze through

mircea_popescu: Bugpowder_ he made pretty good loot, .3-4 over what, 15k ?

mircea_popescu: actuallly i think the calls are slightly ahead too

mircea_popescu: BitHub "this"

mircea_popescu: im not in -otc

mircea_popescu: mod6 bitcoin-otc "selective evaporation" succeeded.

mircea_popescu: if anyone wonders why gmaxwell is an idiot, that's it right there.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: that they don't know about this chan i can see

mircea_popescu: but they don't know twitter, either ? anything ?

mircea_popescu: so go ahead.

mircea_popescu: o boy.

mircea_popescu: lol jesus it's gonna be a day soon

mircea_popescu: Bugpowder_ prolly ppl sold to them tho

mircea_popescu: Bugpowder_ i didn't sell any.

mircea_popescu: "^OIX": "7d": {"avg": "4746815366","min": "3024983876","max": "4950599490","vsh": "no","vsa": "1.89472677534E+12","cnt": ""}

mircea_popescu: ftr.

mircea_popescu: doctor_pullfingr me ?

mircea_popescu: jurov cheeze

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ya but mtgox is free*

mircea_popescu: nanotube main site is being ddosed. use proxies

mircea_popescu: mpex.coinbr.com etc.

mircea_popescu: nanotube https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/309349518632157185

mircea_popescu: Namworld true.

mircea_popescu: 12

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

mircea_popescu: nanotube if need be, yeah. or here.

mircea_popescu: mtgox exploded

mircea_popescu: hctib ppl are covering long positions desperately for the past hour or so

mircea_popescu: jurov yes but he's sore, cause he got linoded.

mircea_popescu: but tell him i said his pool never saw as much btc as mpex saw this year alone.

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla this is true.

mircea_popescu: funny thing is, the 49-39 drop happened on 30k bitcoins worht of volume

mircea_popescu: which is like jackshit

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla mpex trades!

mircea_popescu: Why is your site redirecting to the whitehouse? I thought it was secure?

mircea_popescu: Whitehouse was hacked.

mircea_popescu: lmao

mircea_popescu: tell it to the options ppl lol

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

mircea_popescu: mtgox is becoming as useful as bitcoinica.

mircea_popescu: hctib mpex.coinbr.com

mircea_popescu: dub misses his creature conforts.

mircea_popescu: i thought you were gonna go CAN'T ACCESS MPEX.CO : http://whitehouse.gov

mircea_popescu: lol now there's an echo ?

mircea_popescu: o nelly

mircea_popescu: ohoho. capitulation eh

mircea_popescu: Eduard_Munteanu and to think ppl were whining about s.dice mkt depth

mircea_popescu: blu3gr1ffon you can't, it has to crash for the iluminati to make bank first.

mircea_popescu: fudb

mircea_popescu: le 35

mircea_popescu: teaches them to buy into scams.

mircea_popescu: abnd now the mpoe bot can't quote anymore because the pricefeed finally died.

mircea_popescu: somebody needs to make a motherfucking exchange.

mircea_popescu: jurov mpioe ? yes.

mircea_popescu: lmao

mircea_popescu: lag to retrieving lag : 500 seconds

mircea_popescu: a ok we be back

mircea_popescu: crazy shit, 43.8 vwap

mircea_popescu: p31 selling srsly ?

mircea_popescu: ;;goxfag

mircea_popescu: orly.

mircea_popescu: like the other is.

mircea_popescu: AndroUser512 because white house hacked mpex

mircea_popescu: 10k ?

mircea_popescu: AndroUser512 nothing really happened.

mircea_popescu: kakobrekla 3-4k btc didn't help the forum

mircea_popescu: if you can't get a forum to run stable out of > 100k usd, mtgox is outside of what the world can affoerd

mircea_popescu: his what ?

mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi what can it hurt ? ddoser gets to be first drone victim ?

mircea_popescu: i thought the sec was watching this chan

mircea_popescu: what, they lack reading comprehension ?

mircea_popescu: nefario.

mircea_popescu: dub has a point.

mircea_popescu: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/global-slavery-by-the-numbers/?smid=tw-nytimesbits&seid=auto

mircea_popescu: While slavery is illegal across the globe, the SumAll Foundation noted, there are 27 million slaves worldwide, more than in 1860, when there were 25 million.

mircea_popescu: this is like... lincoln won the war on slavery.

mircea_popescu: !!Please note!! that the Bitcoin value is changing in daily basis! Therefore the price might also change if the invoice is not paid right away!

mircea_popescu: Reference Number: 11714

mircea_popescu: Error getting json fileThe current exchange rate we accept for Bitcoin:

mircea_popescu: 1 BTC = -0.3 USD

mircea_popescu: what the fucking fuck.

mircea_popescu: 100 btc for 30 bux ? rly ?!

mircea_popescu: some dumbass "orangesite" hoster

mircea_popescu: wants to charge me 100 btc for 30 bux

mircea_popescu: http://www.btcwebhost.com/cart.php?a=view

mircea_popescu: emote server or file not found

mircea_popescu: dude bitcoin hiosting is a joke.

mircea_popescu: dub i been hosting with nc since 2001 i think

mircea_popescu: but i won't host there

mircea_popescu: # You did not enter your first name # You did not enter your last name # You did not enter your email address # You did not enter your address (line 1) # You did not enter your city # You did not enter your state # You did not enter your postcode # You did not enter your phone number # You are required to enter a security answer # You did not enter a password # Date of Birth is required #

mircea_popescu: dude srlsy ?!

mircea_popescu: bitcoin hosting, date of birth is required ?

mircea_popescu: what is WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE

mircea_popescu: how do you know he got coins ?

mircea_popescu: Bugpowdrrr it sold like 70k of calls you know ?

mircea_popescu: or 80k even

mircea_popescu: something like 14k iirc

mircea_popescu: Namworld yes they were selling calls bought yest

mircea_popescu: nah

mircea_popescu: maybe on the lowo nes,

mircea_popescu: the short put guy made like .2-3 per contract

mircea_popescu: i wouyld guess

mircea_popescu: what does it do ?

mircea_popescu: ah

mircea_popescu: cool, nice to have.

mircea_popescu: yeah lagged again

mircea_popescu: ^OIX: "7d": {"avg": "4711973083","min": "3024713516","max": "4855255527","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.56240676575E+12","cnt": ""}

mircea_popescu: i'm like the new assbot

mircea_popescu: i dunno that they have those here.

mircea_popescu: ;;tslb

mircea_popescu: holy hell

mircea_popescu: what is this about asics and whatnot ?

mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinity.org/markets

mircea_popescu: that graph looks like it's had a heart attack

mircea_popescu: they're spending something like 10k a month on hardware.

mircea_popescu: which is you kniow... more than the market cap of all but a few bitcoin businesses.

mircea_popescu: it's what they declare(d)

mircea_popescu: heh. mtgox jusrt stole .2 btc from me.

mircea_popescu: i dunno why i went ahead and used them as a pp for some obscure host

mircea_popescu: 7 confirms, "There are not enough bitcoins on this address."

mircea_popescu: in spite of you know, having showed it "about to confirm" earlier.

mircea_popescu: when it had 5

mircea_popescu: totally.

mircea_popescu: 500 Internal Server Error

mircea_popescu: nginx/1.2.1

mircea_popescu: who was saying this bitcoinity thing is the best since sliced mpex ?

mircea_popescu: dub haha

mircea_popescu: don't tell me they just owned themselves.

mircea_popescu: meanwhile txs sent 3 hours ago are still unincluded

mircea_popescu: dude people wanted bitcoin to be the new visa ?

mircea_popescu: lay down the pipe.

mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-X-Au9HrmI&feature=youtu.be

mircea_popescu: check out about minute 3

mircea_popescu: keiser really likes bitcoin

mircea_popescu: 4k btc ?

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

mircea_popescu: ;;tslb

mircea_popescu: let people add tx fees.

mircea_popescu: lol tya

mircea_popescu: bah bitcoincharts is crashed so bad

mircea_popescu: maximian indeed.

mircea_popescu: their 10 minute to half hour execution delay

mircea_popescu: ya, people went to bed

mircea_popescu: yeah.

mircea_popescu: lol rebound ?

mircea_popescu: yeah.

mircea_popescu: mpoe hasn't been quoting for like 6 hours because it can't get a coherent feed

mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinity.org/markets bitcoinity is back online at least.

mircea_popescu: Anduck still going.

mircea_popescu: nope.

mircea_popescu: they've been playing muscial chairs for what, 12 hours now ?

mircea_popescu: is this some topic you fancy yourself an expert in ?

mircea_popescu: sorta like the doctor should know how to make you healthy, right ?

mircea_popescu: what difference does it make anyway ? you're so desperate to read my blog today rather than tomorrow ?

mircea_popescu: i said it's immune to ddos. which it is.

mircea_popescu: nope.

mircea_popescu: can't you see it trading lol

mircea_popescu: <assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50000 @ 0.00075 = 37.5 BTC [+]

mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/mpex1

mircea_popescu: that's kinda the idea. i saidf before a government couldn't take it down.

mircea_popescu: today is the proof. ddos it ? fine. so ?

mircea_popescu: who cares.

mircea_popescu: "S.MPOE": {"1d": {"avg": "74815.940534","min": "69034","max": "75000","vsh": "4149547","vsa": "310452261595","cnt": "41"}, "7d": {"avg": "74981.9993279","min": "69034","max": "78628","vsh": "11012234","vsa": "825719322387","cnt": "218"}, "30d": {"avg": "68500.398679","min": "61530","max": "78628","vsh": "65503018","vsa": "4486982847676","cnt": "5975"}},

mircea_popescu: past few days yeah

mircea_popescu: i put a 10mn shares block up at 75 monday

mircea_popescu: and it's all but gone

mircea_popescu: no, it was bought

mircea_popescu: like 500k left

mircea_popescu: Mtgox trading engine lag: 10.51s

mircea_popescu: it almost caught up actually.

mircea_popescu: just needed to meditate a little lol

mircea_popescu: ya like 19 iirc

mircea_popescu: 10 secondish

mircea_popescu: disk is the bottleneck iirc

mircea_popescu: hey all.

mircea_popescu: mpex servers will be offline for a few hours. we are reconfiguring the router system, putting in new optics

mircea_popescu: and doing a lot of other overhauling.

mircea_popescu: no need to panic, all data is safe, by the time this is done mpex will have 10gb dedicated.

mircea_popescu: and a few other perks.

mircea_popescu: yes.

mircea_popescu: hey. 1gb x2 seemed massive.

mircea_popescu: to avoid any possible inconsistencies in dbases i am taking the ordering offline tho.

mircea_popescu: data may still be visible for a little bit.

mircea_popescu: i'm going to sleep too. techs have it from here.

mircea_popescu: sooo what's new ?

mircea_popescu: haha sounds about right

mircea_popescu: jurov did you get nuked in the end ?

mircea_popescu: lol mkay

mircea_popescu: CoinBr under maintenance/overhaul, should be available before March 8. Contact us on support()coinbr.com .

mircea_popescu: i get that much.

mircea_popescu: o

mircea_popescu: cool.

mircea_popescu: it's funny, last year the forum crowd was all aggitated about "o, da gubbinmint"

mircea_popescu: i knew then that it's not the freaking government that'll be the issue on the midterm.

mircea_popescu: why Luke-Jr ?

mircea_popescu: ya well, attention ho.

mircea_popescu: retaliatory rating if some idiot negs you i can see

mircea_popescu: going out of your way to politically rate people... meh. not so much.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: what difference does it make to you tho ? there's going to be an onion in any soup

mircea_popescu: do you mind that it's called Luke-Jr or whatever else ?

mircea_popescu: hey, most people are

mircea_popescu: well... not as much against as amused.

mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr dude, still with this ? sd is the only thing happening on bitcoin, forget about it already.

mircea_popescu: o, is it a loving bejezuz issue really ?

mircea_popescu: this wouldn't be by any chance related to the girl bitchslapping that hearn muppet earlier, would it ?

mircea_popescu: 1M user with 1000 tx/sec is easier than 10 users with 1000 tx/sec <<< you can't even distinguish users apart.

mircea_popescu: i can make 1mn txs right now, you won't be able to produce an accurate usercount.

mircea_popescu: hahaha, if you think retail users will run that braindamaged abomination called "the bitcoin client" you're off your rocker.

mircea_popescu: if there were 1mn users drawn to bitcoin because of satoshi dice, they'd just run piuk's wallet into the ground, and you'd whine about how "blockchain is spamming the network"

mircea_popescu: this sort of internecine bullshit may be appropriate in fringe churches of weird and other midwestern concerns

mircea_popescu: but it does not belong in technology. technology is for smart people.

mircea_popescu: you literally have no idea what you are talking about.

mircea_popescu: lmao

mircea_popescu: listen, how do you figure you're a mioner anyway

mircea_popescu: best i can make out you're a concern troll with a checkered past.

mircea_popescu: looking through the forum digests this is motherfucking sad

mircea_popescu: Gateway capacity trouble at Coinbase? Is anyone else having problems with Bitme deposits? Mt.Gox Payment system problem What the fuck Bitfinex? MtGox should halt trading when Order Lag time is this long. Anyone's bitfloor deposits working?

mircea_popescu: it's like fucking extravaganza.

mircea_popescu: and the cherry on top, Website performance is going to be the bane of many n00bs when it's time to sell

mircea_popescu: dude i dunno about noobs. it'd be the bane of me.

mircea_popescu: heh. i think the lag reporting was laggy

mircea_popescu: at some point they were pasting half hour old trades out of order into the feed

mircea_popescu: classical meltdown.

mircea_popescu: actually it looked a lot like nasdaq when facebook.

mircea_popescu: jurov here basically.

mircea_popescu: have him join the chan it can be explained to him.

mircea_popescu: awww that poor dude was sending me crazed messages too.

mircea_popescu: but to sum up the situation, cause i imagine many people are curious :

mircea_popescu: mpex consists of a trade server and webservers which the users talk to.

mircea_popescu: if you look at it practically these webservers are practically proxies.

mircea_popescu: there is five of them sharing two gigabit uplinks through a balancer.

mircea_popescu: the first time mpex was ddosed in january the attack took out the actual datacenter top level router.

mircea_popescu: there were two more layers of routing to get to the router that handled the webservers.

mircea_popescu: now, the reason admittedly was that the thing was a little old and kidna loaded. but still.

mircea_popescu: so at that time i split the tubes up north/east, and started a bunch of proxies

mircea_popescu: jurov was hosting one, for instance.

mircea_popescu: since the attack started yesterday a total of 100+ of these were taken offline.

mircea_popescu: granted, it's not easy to blow up a small shared setup like that.

mircea_popescu: but somebody did have the determination to spend a day and a half looking for them, setting up the ddosing for them individually bla bla.

mircea_popescu: the thing with that system is that it works by division. if there's 100 of them there jurov can stay online.

mircea_popescu: if there's 9 left the remainder ddos is available to hit him

mircea_popescu: i could allow anyone to start a proxy right now, the trade server is fine, etc. the problem is

mircea_popescu: you'd be nuked in half an hour or something, and it's just hassle.

mircea_popescu: right.

mircea_popescu: now, a humongo 10gb dedicated solution is being set up as we speak

mircea_popescu: i had this sort-of prepared, but not actually provisioned and ready because the shit is expensive

mircea_popescu: basically.

mircea_popescu: imsaguy the alternative is handle mpex trades by email.

mircea_popescu: yep.

mircea_popescu: to what ip ?

mircea_popescu: see, mail is diffuse.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 prolly.

mircea_popescu: imsaguy the problem is irc doesn't handle pgp so well

mircea_popescu: (and i don't think they have enough to cope, but maybe)

mircea_popescu: imsaguy yeah. last i talked to nanotube he was like "i don't want this in production handling opm"

mircea_popescu: dawg...

mircea_popescu: fuck you srsly.

mircea_popescu: why didn't i think opf that

mircea_popescu: people can just paste a pastebin link or w/e

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: imsaguy wanna code an irc proxy for me ?

mircea_popescu: all you have to do is take urls from people and feed them into server as pgp strings

mircea_popescu: so fork gribble, i dun care.

mircea_popescu: im trying to hire you over here ;/

mircea_popescu: pm.

mircea_popescu: jurov yup

mircea_popescu: i like this chan, srsly.

mircea_popescu: ppl are facepalming left and right around me

mircea_popescu: nah.

mircea_popescu: wiggzz atm, yes.

mircea_popescu: Chilca do you have a gb+ pipe you can play with ?

mircea_popescu: yes. read up the chat i just explained it 5 minutes ago

mircea_popescu: o you just joined huh. brb pastebin

mircea_popescu: mod6 they can use their own domains tho

mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/8dWy851p Chilca wiggzz

mircea_popescu: mod6 now that i don't know.

mircea_popescu: but if someone breaks pgp in 2049, what do they get ? a lot of BUY|S.BLABLA|350|45000 ?

mircea_popescu: jcpham y-double-y-cum.

mircea_popescu: mod6 listen, the pastebins would be encrypted with mpex key

mircea_popescu: if they get anywhere they broke pgp.

mircea_popescu: because

mircea_popescu: you can take a string and encrypt it with mpex key right now

mircea_popescu: locally

mircea_popescu: for one trillion times

mircea_popescu: jurov no cause i was sleeping.

mircea_popescu: and contrary to what everyone thinks, great ideas also need sane management to get anywhere.

mircea_popescu: o i got confused :D

mircea_popescu: sorry.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: wasn't exactly like that lol

mircea_popescu: that's a nice thought, but

mircea_popescu: in the middle of installing gear so might not be the best time

mircea_popescu: dudes not paying attention are they.

mircea_popescu: nanotube it shall be done.

mircea_popescu: this of course has no bearing on the new pipe coming online.

mircea_popescu: nanotube yes.

mircea_popescu: nanotube a coupla of the proxies were on amazon

mircea_popescu: im too busy to investigate exactly wtf happned to them right now

mircea_popescu: and not sure i actually care.

mircea_popescu: deadweasel nah, i literally do not care.

mircea_popescu: understand : this was planned for. sooner or later someone was going to attack mpex.

mircea_popescu: proving that mpex can't be effectually attacked is part of the game

mircea_popescu: the attackers are on our team here.

mircea_popescu: jborkl the only disputer was, "will it be government or not"

mircea_popescu: turns out not. so... heh.

mircea_popescu: just the fact that traders could close > 50k btc worth of option positions normally whiole mpex was being ddosed to hell

mircea_popescu: already speaks volumes.

mircea_popescu: that the bot later was w/o a feed cause mtgox went bananas is a diff story

mircea_popescu: but pain was avoided here.

mircea_popescu: cool, huh ?

mircea_popescu: yeah, sure, i'm not keeping 10k worth of pipe as a hot and ready to go backup, i admit

mircea_popescu: on the other hand, i am getting it deployed, so.

mircea_popescu: not afaik.

mircea_popescu: i don't think they understand a lot of things tbh

mircea_popescu: some people were on a kick of "bitbet should charge less"

mircea_popescu: why ?

mircea_popescu: well... cause then it'd be less.

mircea_popescu: im like... yaok.

mircea_popescu: anyway, exciting stuff

mircea_popescu: thy name be bitcoin

mircea_popescu: dub mpex uses the blockchain for accounting a different way.

mircea_popescu: this is what the blockchain is : accounting

mircea_popescu: that's why it's called a ledger.

mircea_popescu: dub : accounts DO NOT WORK.

mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "an account"

mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "log in"

mircea_popescu: forget that braindamage.

mircea_popescu: the reason you cash out after every bet is that there's no "you"

mircea_popescu: thinking in terms of "you" and pretending to be involved in bitcoin is the ultimate lulz.

mircea_popescu: obviously it didn't sink in what bitcoin is.

mircea_popescu: mjr_ the protocol doesn't exclude it

mircea_popescu: but im motherfucking excluding it. it doesn't work.

mircea_popescu: dub this is great.

mircea_popescu: the day we go in the marketplace with a workable solution that would crtumble amex

mircea_popescu: is the day we see usd/satoshi rates quoted

mircea_popescu: instead of usd/btc

mircea_popescu: moreover, who the fuck said what the blockchain is for ?

mircea_popescu: the blockchain is for everything it works for.

mircea_popescu: as long as it's useful for something, that's what it's for.

mircea_popescu: natural law.

mircea_popescu: dub the only thing that's going to break it is pseudo-governmental posturing.

mircea_popescu: nobody has license to come out with the sort of bullshit "shoulds"

mircea_popescu: the only shoulds here are the devs should stfu and fix bitcoind.

mircea_popescu: jborkl i think he's trying to make sense of that position.

mircea_popescu: jcpham troll.

mircea_popescu: you're grubles

mircea_popescu: mjr_ and yet nobody mines at elegius

mircea_popescu: jcpham i looked in the colon

mircea_popescu: dub now there is.

mircea_popescu: sexy playas

mircea_popescu: dub the only reason capitalism failed was because idiots with "should" abandoned it

mircea_popescu: to make "a better version"

mircea_popescu: the soviet union, the united soviets of america, the blabla

mircea_popescu: as long as people submit to natural law the take over the world.

mircea_popescu: as soon as they start thinking they know what *should* be what

mircea_popescu: ... blamo

mircea_popescu: <jborkl> the majority with money agree, the rest dont count << this guy is mircea_popescu

mircea_popescu: lol the old holdout of marauding socialism

mircea_popescu: "the poor aren't voting to steal from the rich because they've not been sufficiently explaining the benefits of theft"

mircea_popescu: "we gotta go out there and really inform them"

mircea_popescu: jborkl to be fair, they've been fading for a while

mircea_popescu: dub because of sdice ?

mircea_popescu: oh get out

mircea_popescu: it was a small day for s.dice

mircea_popescu: this incidentallty shows clearly how misplaced all the sd trolling is.

mircea_popescu: the network works fine with sd. what it doesn't work fine with is the appalingly poor quality of coding

mircea_popescu: jborkl i think so

mircea_popescu: dub for the arbitrarily stupid 250k block limit baked in

mircea_popescu: by the sort of idiots that also broke the way bitcoind creates txns

mircea_popescu: basically, bitcoin needs actual devs.

mircea_popescu: no.

mircea_popescu: most of the people who had bitcoin for no reason are out, thanks to pirate and the other scasmmers

mircea_popescu: the problem is most of the people who think they're devs for no reason aren;t out yet.

mircea_popescu: but it will filter out.

mircea_popescu: people like gmaxwell, hearn, luke etc are just dead weight

mircea_popescu: too stupid to realise how stupid they actually are

mircea_popescu: taaki is already gone,

mircea_popescu: they're next

mircea_popescu: and so it goes.

mircea_popescu: dub you always remove the broken thing

mircea_popescu: you never fix the easy thing to "fix"

mircea_popescu: no, it's how it works.

mircea_popescu: dub there's no dealmaking here.

mircea_popescu: if they suck they go

mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130117.msg1596786#msg1596786

mircea_popescu: jurov is rthat you ?

mircea_popescu: or do they mean me ?

mircea_popescu: dub sd exposed bad coding in the bitcoin base.

mircea_popescu: i can agree with that much.

mircea_popescu: then again every practical use of prototype code will expose bad code

mircea_popescu: it's the fucking point

mircea_popescu: the idea is to take the correct dev attitude "o sorry we eat c0x. working to fix"

mircea_popescu: rather than the incorrect dev attitude of "so don't do that!"

mircea_popescu: Lyspooner yes.

mircea_popescu: now where was that pastebin

mircea_popescu: Lyspooner http://pastebin.com/8dWy851p

mircea_popescu: you missed out on all the fun

mircea_popescu: the correct syntax is !ticker m s.mpoe, but assbot is not talking to mpex atm.

mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/hUcC01nB here's a paste of the vwap page current

mircea_popescu: dub i am not joinint no bs foundation.

mircea_popescu: i am telling the devs what things are

mircea_popescu: if they don't follow i'm going to start my own devteam and fork bitcoin.

mircea_popescu: i like hard options.

mircea_popescu: and this is not about me either

mircea_popescu: the miners, the larger ones anyway, will be starting their own clients

mircea_popescu: maybe not this year, but the next or in 2015 for sure

mircea_popescu: it won't stop working.

mircea_popescu: it will stop caring about people's wishes tho.

mircea_popescu: to the degree that it does now, which is tenuous

mircea_popescu: people's wish for low fees they can shove

mircea_popescu: fees will be exactly as high as the market will bear.

mircea_popescu: there's no room for the entitled poor in the new world.

mircea_popescu: and people thought stalin was hardline.

mircea_popescu: mircea_popescu. more hardline than stalin. just... the other direction.

mircea_popescu: dub anonimity is doing fine.

mircea_popescu: it never existed to begin with. pseudonimity however is just as 100% as it always was.

mircea_popescu: forever.

mircea_popescu: in my estimation, asic mining wll be a lot more decentralised than gpu mining

mircea_popescu: which was VERY centralised, but by idiots

mircea_popescu: people like gigavps, amazingrando, hashking et all had a disproportionate share of power in the ecosystem

mircea_popescu: which they went and fucked up.

mircea_popescu: it was based on the shaky foundation of marginal personal ability, cause running a gpu farm is a logistic nightmare.

mircea_popescu: it did use the cheap "anyone can run a gpu" fud tactic, but in fact it was as centralised as it can get.

mircea_popescu: anyone can run an asic. so... que the end of that system.

mircea_popescu: it's different in some ways at least.

mircea_popescu: it will be a case of "he who has 1000 bucks gets a vote"

mircea_popescu: instead of "he who has 200 dollars and spends his time f5-ing amazon and knows how to make fire hazard pics in his basement"

mircea_popescu: i much prefer the former. it's cleaner.

mircea_popescu: well... where ?

mircea_popescu: there will be a SMALLER cost to play.

mircea_popescu: it will however be cash upfront.

mircea_popescu: before the cost to play was, 200 bucks + 5k worth of computer competence.

mircea_popescu: now it's 1k bucks and a power outlet.

mircea_popescu: overall cost went down by 80%

mircea_popescu: it's just some people don't know how to account, and so the 5k "is free"

mircea_popescu: but let me put it this other way :

mircea_popescu: there are at least 100mn people in this world who can spend 1k dollars.

mircea_popescu: there are MAYBE 1mn people in this world who have the skills to run gpu rigs but do not have gainful employment

mircea_popescu: unsuirprisingly, they;'re mostly mental deffecrtive / weird / marginal doods.

mircea_popescu: so our miner putative market increased by a factor of 10k%

mircea_popescu: dub hey, it may well be bullshit

mircea_popescu: but it's what i think on the matter.

mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinity.org/markets

mircea_popescu: do these graphs look right to anyone ?!

mircea_popescu: dub no.

mircea_popescu: i am arguing that for every wanna-break the world kid / bank clerk who thinks he's a banker / duimbass kid who thinks writing "options" on a webpage makes him an options trader

mircea_popescu: that get pushed our mercilessly

mircea_popescu: there will be 10 to 100 actual sane people

mircea_popescu: dub no because the cost to be the top dog will have went from own 500 items worth 200 each

mircea_popescu: to own 50`000 items worth 1k each

mircea_popescu: so from 100k to 50mn

mircea_popescu: jurov it does work, but the graph looks like wtf.

mircea_popescu: and if you think people won't be buying asics at 1k a pop, let me tell you something :

mircea_popescu: when that hungarian scammer showed up it he was checked out the next day

mircea_popescu: by independent teams.

mircea_popescu: there is demand. come out with an inventory of asics you will sell 10-100k units in a month if you can actuyally deliver them.

mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves does that say anything ?!

mircea_popescu: you do need to tell me that so i can lol.

mircea_popescu: i had it checked out dood. im no miner at all.

mircea_popescu: think about it : i am going to get a mining cluster which i will run for purely strategic reasons

mircea_popescu: mpex needs assurance that idiots like luke-jr stay irrelevant.

mircea_popescu: so will pretty much every single service built on top of bitcoin

mircea_popescu: then add the pro miners

mircea_popescu: then add all the people who want to run a 1k unit

mircea_popescu: dub i can calculate how many asics i need to have in order to guarantee my payments make it witin an arbitrary timeframe

mircea_popescu: this is basic provisioning.

mircea_popescu: so ?

mircea_popescu: jcpham i bet you in 2013 we will have special mining software allowing miner to issue orders much like ip routing tables

mircea_popescu: "always include my txs, irrespective of fee"

mircea_popescu: "always include txs to these addies, if fee is x"

mircea_popescu: etc.

mircea_popescu: there will be a dedicated box preparing the mempool for mine rigs in most farms

mircea_popescu: dub yep.

mircea_popescu: dub if bitcoin fucks up you bet your sweet life an altchain each.

mircea_popescu: the girl hinted as much at some point arguing with the hearn&co idiot parade.

mircea_popescu: jcpham a revenue stream will be table leasing

mircea_popescu: people will pay you to include their rules.

mircea_popescu: soon enough there will be a market for mempool gatway rules.

mircea_popescu: talk about driving innovation.

mircea_popescu: suddenly yet another reason for 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx emerges.

mircea_popescu: it will be a LOT easier to handle those issues with fixed addies

mircea_popescu: sdice has an advantage too.

mircea_popescu: mjr__ right now you can't. what are you trying to do ?

mircea_popescu: dub i am not interested in being anon.

mircea_popescu: obviously other people will implement other models.

mircea_popescu: BingoBongo i dunno what his problem was.

mircea_popescu: maybe.

mircea_popescu: BingoBongo o, no, no. the argument was about hm

mircea_popescu: da fuck was it about

mircea_popescu: o yes, i think he wanted increased block size.

mircea_popescu: and honestly i think colored coins are a horrible nonstarter. i can only imagine the sort of crap that'd occur if they caught on

mircea_popescu: and there'd be satoshi's running around everywhere

mircea_popescu: mjr__ trade is practgically frozen so nothing much would have changed.

mircea_popescu: that;s kinda it, i could have come up with a pure vpn solution

mircea_popescu: and only allow trusted people on the network to talk to the exchange

mircea_popescu: (which incidentally is how things work irl )

mircea_popescu: however, i judged that'd create a haves/havesnot disparity that's both huge and sudden

mircea_popescu: better and fairer just freeze things for a little bit.

mircea_popescu: but to expand on the plan : as an absolute rock bottom if things can't be otherwise resolved within a week, i will publish a gmail address, and trade will work via email (you email your paste instead of putting into site, you get it back)

mircea_popescu: as a relative rock bottom, if things can't be otherwise resolved within a couple of days i will have a vpn installed. this has the disadvantage that it puts the brokers in an iffy spot

mircea_popescu: also, we are currently working on using irc bot much like gribble works. there should be one up soon and another during weekend.

mircea_popescu: and also, much larger infrastructure should be coming online during the 8th.

mircea_popescu: mjr__ nope.

mircea_popescu: it would solve nothing at all. routers are getting friend, not boxes.

mircea_popescu: cdn doesn't do this. there are ddos protection services out there, but all have their own issues

mircea_popescu: it's a long story.

mircea_popescu: well, for your own benefit :

mircea_popescu: cloudflare is very cheap (like200 a month) but it's mostly intended for random kid dickery.

mircea_popescu: this is not what we're dealing with here.

mircea_popescu: blacklotus is expensive, and i have yet to locate anyone that can give me the straight dope about what they actually do./

mircea_popescu: incapsula is sorta like more of a midmarket thing

mircea_popescu: mjr__ proxies help in the exact sort of way i had it set-up : open web proxy which connects on a sort of private vpn to mpex webservers

mircea_popescu: but the thing is, they actually took the time to blow up all these.

mircea_popescu: hm ?

mircea_popescu: mjr__ the ddos is not actually containing headers.

mircea_popescu: a complete mess and mix.

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it's the options sentiment index.

mircea_popescu: lemme see

mircea_popescu: {"avg": "4713745617","min": "3024713516","max": "4853472885","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.62504497419E+12","cnt": ""}

mircea_popescu: mjr__ understand, the box was doing something like 0.07 load all through the ddos.

mircea_popescu: it's not the server at all.

mircea_popescu: well yeah, because

mircea_popescu: a. a lot of calls closed up past 24 hours. those don't count.

mircea_popescu: b. a lot of longass short puts were closed, which does count

mircea_popescu: but it counts from way up, so it makes the put side kinda high too

mircea_popescu: i mean put side is up to 30, from like 22 earlier

mircea_popescu: mpoe bot is like... wtf did everyone go ?

mircea_popescu: getting depressed and loneyl.

mircea_popescu: lol

mircea_popescu: anything can be turned into great publicity.

mircea_popescu: your wife's a whore ? well... at least she's hawt.

mircea_popescu: i think there's enough presence to keep the stakeholders appraised.

mircea_popescu: other than that... heh.

mircea_popescu: jcpham i think someone might have noticed that mpex didn't answer on 23

mircea_popescu: or wait, was 23 ftp ?

mircea_popescu: maybe mpoe-pr could be a vamp

mircea_popescu: ire

mircea_popescu: dub i was more considering that guy's bitmessage p2p thing

mircea_popescu: ya well, they gotta sell themselves somehow.

mircea_popescu: that's kind of the problem, very chinese market out there. "yes sir i tell you we do ddosprotection"

mircea_popescu: "o wait, you mean ddos as in, 6-7 gb sustained with 20gb peaks ?! OMG TAKE A HIKE"

mircea_popescu: Visa processed 37 billion

mircea_popescu: transactions in FY2008

mircea_popescu: afaik that number is off

mircea_popescu: more like 3.7

mircea_popescu: If a small number of entities are issuing new coins,

mircea_popescu: this is more resistant to state attack that with a

mircea_popescu: single issuer, but the government regularly attacks

mircea_popescu: financial networks, with the financial collapse ensuing

mircea_popescu: from the most recent attack still under way as I write

mircea_popescu: this.

mircea_popescu: Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in

mircea_popescu: due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil

mircea_popescu: financial network is bigger than the honest financial

mircea_popescu: network, with the result that even though everyone knows

mircea_popescu: what is happening, people continue to use the paper

mircea_popescu: issued by the evil financial network, because of network

mircea_popescu: effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use

mircea_popescu: if you want to do business.

mircea_popescu: that guy is smart.

mircea_popescu: jborkl " cant ddos the entire network" << o but they can.

mircea_popescu: it would be painful, especially if they go after nodes one at a time

mircea_popescu: dub i could start with his relays lol

mircea_popescu: jborkl what i'd do is cause a lot of grief to people otherwise ill equipped to cope.

mircea_popescu: im not here to cause trouble, contrary to what you might have heard.

mircea_popescu: i'll be bringing more capacity online and that's that.

mircea_popescu: was just being facetious hehe