gribble: There are currently 15706.82 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 784550.15041 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.4370 seconds
deadweasel: kakobrekla, that's a hell of a wall at 50
gribble: 1 BTC = 48.99239 U.S. dollars = 37.7852769 Euros
Uglux: what was the ATH exactly?
Uglux: yeaaa, the number plz
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla who actually can take out 3/4 mn usd fgrom mthox ?
gribble: Error: "yeaaa," is not a valid command.
Bugpowder: they raised my limit to 50k overnight
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu i dunno, but it has to be done
Chaang-Noi: total bid: 8,389,663 USD | total ask: 82,782 BTC | ratio: 101.35 USD/BTC
Bugpowder: Trusted accounts can withdraw 50k at a time, 500k / mo
mircea_popescu: its incredible just how inadequate fiat is when one looks from the vantage of btc
Bugpowder: correction $100k max wire size per day with trusted
Bugpowder: Sub 10k wires have been arriving in 48 hours for me
Bugpowder: No matter what happens now, I made at least 18x.
Bugpowder: Every 5-10 years there is an investment that is just so fucking obvious
Bugpowder: Bitcoins at $2, after being at $31, was a great example
toffoo: things always look obvious in retrospect ;)
Bugpowder: not obvious that it was going to 50
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.000697 = 4.9487 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: but an EV analysis I drew up showed something like 5-10x EV
Bugpowder: which was clearly too conservative
Bugpowder: It wasn't obvious it would bounce to $15
toffoo: i wouldn't call that one obvious ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.0018 = 9 BTC [+]
toffoo: it's two competitors were bankrupt and under the government's control
toffoo: maybe you know more about the car business than the average guy
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)
Bugpowder: Friend of dad who had lost most of his money in the market did an EV analysis... Went all in with the rest of life savings
Bugpowder: deadweasel: max(18x, 18x+n*x) where n =[0-1000]
mircea_popescu: venturebeat : embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back. matonis : Tradehill Launches As Bitcoin Exchange For Businesses And Accredited Investors
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1 @ 0.12177158 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: some times better to be lucky/crazy than smart
mod6: Krugman and Bernanke have phd's lol
pigeons: wtf is a curation consultant
gribble: Error: "bc,convert," is not a valid command.
gribble: 1 BTC = 49.49002 U.S. dollars = 38.169073 Euros
pigeons: smells like something a ycombinator company would have
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.26107, Best ask: 49.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.22893, Last trade: 49.26107, 24 hour volume: 45708.72214983, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.26314
gribble: There are currently 15875.704 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 792726.780924 USD in total. | Data vintage: 117.4680 seconds
mpexbot: smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 40.34905862 high: 57.74756063 low: 37.79100251 volume: 35646 btc: 4872.55462737 30 day: no data
Chaang-Noi: less than a million of soon to be fiat to go
mpexbot: but... i saw porn on there :(
mpexbot: jurov because a. its much easier to parse and b. because the bot
mpexbot: smickles that film... you should totally watch it.
mpexbot: jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
mpexbot: pigeons: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
jurov: i hope for succinct prediction :/
mpexbot: smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
deadweasel: Bugpowder: yeah, no I have no idea at all
mpexbot: jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
mpexbot: smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
mpexbot: smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1 @ 0.06562237 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.49999, Best ask: 49.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 49.49999, 24 hour volume: 47889.07477187, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.32588
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 6247626.80304 based on data since last change | 6547204.92104 based on data for last three days
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 1 @ 0.08408666 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00431 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0043 = 0.086 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00426 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.0041 = 0.0369 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.334 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3337 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3332 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.000697 = 3.3456 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.50001, Best ask: 49.50002, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 49.50002, 24 hour volume: 48101.89622656, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.33148
smickles: ;;calc [bc,24hprc]/[ticker --last]
smickles: at what point do we start seeing that 'buy/sell out mpoebot' trader
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13443 @ 0.000697 = 9.3698 BTC [-]
smickles: mircea_popescu: dammit man, stop publishing my ideas
smickles: mircea_popescu: this is all getting into indiana jones territory. soon enough you'll have to be at 'the spot where the sun is at such an angel in sky on this day of the year and casts a shadow to your feet. turn left, take a pic of the mountian and pump that pic into the script where you enter "david duchovny" 6 times'
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is - among other things - bringing pirate maps back
mod6: (16:00) < mircea_popescu> bitcoin is - among other things - bringing pirate maps back << YES!!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10110 @ 0.00071781 = 7.2571 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.71230, Best ask: 49.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08770, Last trade: 49.71230, 24 hour volume: 49314.22508067, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.80000, 24 hour vwap: 48.37025
gribble: There are currently 1456.6221 bitcoins offered at or under 49.99 USD, worth 72734.4782962 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.4732 seconds
mod6: that's neat pigeons
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.71230, Best ask: 49.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08770, Last trade: 49.71230, 24 hour volume: 49314.22508067, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.80000, 24 hour vwap: 48.37025
gribble: There are currently 384.75233 bitcoins offered at or under 49.99 USD, worth 19225.9672632 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.3233 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 1 @ 0.10841351 BTC [-]
deadweasel: was the solution for sdice to split off transactions into entire blocks?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1 @ 0.13772223 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496
deadweasel: it almost feels like classical conditioning
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.0007453 = 3.6967 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 8 @ 0.0441449 = 0.3532 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I assume there is some panic buying goxlag
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8402 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8401 = 3.3604 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.84 = 5.04 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 250 @ 0.10675 = 26.6875 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 750 @ 0.10948345 = 82.1126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 250 @ 0.10948345 = 27.3709 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: "cakc" is not a valid command.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 500 @ 0.12927863 = 64.6393 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.00001, Best ask: 51.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 51.00000, 24 hour volume: 59546.54465887, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 51.01000, 24 hour vwap: 48.67395
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 4 @ 0.23958397 = 0.9583 BTC [+]
Bowjob: in anything, TA is bullshit
deadweasel: it almost feels like classical conditioning0
kakobrekla: i have been saying this for a while now, the more world goes to shit, the better for btc
Bowjob: fundamentals beats all!
Bowjob: we are the new wealthy elite
Bowjob: im just gonna sit this out, waiting for my avalon
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 52.00000, Best ask: 52.12000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 52.00000, 24 hour volume: 61002.40967740, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.12000, 24 hour vwap: 48.74625
Bowjob: just watch the price here
Bowjob: the orderbook is skewed
Bowjob: some people seem to be dumping
Bowjob: i welcome you, my cyprus and spanish friends
kakobrekla: meanwhile in antartica: ltc down to 0.01
Bowjob: fuck this shit im cancelling LTC
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 52.10000, Best ask: 52.11999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 52.10000, 24 hour volume: 61104.42476205, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.12000, 24 hour vwap: 48.75342
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00075127 = 8.4894 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 6286.4465 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 315601.470911 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.1438 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1487 @ 0.00076717 = 1.1408 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 7952.6316 bitcoins demanded at or over 49.0 USD, worth 397741.218334 USD in total. | Data vintage: 53.4991 seconds
mircea_popescu: “We want to be the grownups in the Bitcoin space,” said chief operating officer Ryan Singer in an interview.
benkay: second only to new yorkers in arrogant fuckery
mircea_popescu: fucking tradition in bitcoin, retards posturing as ":the adults:"
mircea_popescu: next kludge is going to come back from the dead wanting to be the adult in bitcoin or some shit.
benkay: it's how you raise capital
Bugpowder: what the fuck is up with their photos
benkay: i don't understand the fixation with exchanges.
Bugpowder: I see they swapped out the original
Bugpowder: which was them looking hammered, holding a drink
mircea_popescu: benkay it's like the notion that bitcoi nwill grow through retail adoption
benkay: derp harder, oh my countrymen
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.73600, Best ask: 51.93701, Bid-ask spread: 0.20101, Last trade: 51.73801, 24 hour volume: 64139.42338876, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 48.93122
Bugpowder: wear a fucking suit for your fucking presentation to the world dipshits
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder the only thing the rental store had was a pink tux and a strapless sperm-white gucci dress
parseval: FinCEN's statement on applicability of regulations to virtual currencies, posted today
kakobrekla: anyone singed up for that prime idiotism?
benkay: where did you find that, parseval?
mircea_popescu: This guidance refers to the participants in generic virtual currency arrangements, using the terms "user," "exchanger," and "administrator."6 A user is a person that obtains virtual currency to purchase goods or services.7 An exchanger is a person engaged as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for real currency, funds, or other virtual currency. An administrator is a person engaged as a business in issuing (
mircea_popescu: putting into circulation) a virtual currency, and who has the authority to redeem (to withdraw from circulation) such virtual currency.
parseval: A final type of convertible virtual currency activity involves a de-centralized convertible virtual currency (1) that has no central repository and no single administrator, and (2) that persons may obtain by their own computing or manufacturing effort.
parseval: A person that creates units of this convertible virtual currency and uses it to purchase real or virtual goods and services is a user of the convertible virtual currency and not subject to regulation as a money transmitter. By contrast, a person that creates units of convertible virtual currency and sells those units to another person for real currency or its equivalent is engaged in transmission to another location
parseval: and is a money transmitter. In addition, a person is an exchanger and a money transmitter if the person accepts such de-centralized convertible virtual currency from one person and transmits it to another person as part of the acceptance and transfer of currency, funds, or other value that substitutes for currency.
mircea_popescu: to be an administrator it substantively requires you have the ability to withdraw units.
parseval: Looks like MtGox is getting out just in time
mircea_popescu: to be a transmitter it substantively requires you blabla as part of acceptance/transfer of funds/currency/etc.
parseval: You have to follow the BSA as a transmitter
parseval: Which means all sorts of recordkeeping and reporting regulations
smickles: looks like they are trying to say anyone who buys or sells bitcoin for fiat is a money transmitter
mircea_popescu: A person must exchange the currency of two or more countries to be considered a dealer in foreign exchange.19 Virtual currency does not meet the criteria to be considered "currency" under the BSA, because it is not legal tender. Therefore, a person who accepts real currency in exchange for virtual currency, or vice versa, is not a dealer in foreign exchange under FinCEN's regulations.
mircea_popescu: kinda nice to have them come out with "it is not a currency" statement.
BitHub: they class it the same as wow gold here
smickles: BitHub: if you buy wow gold you're a money transmitter?
smickles: that doc says if you buy a decentralized virtual currency, you are a money transmitter
smickles: which has a whole shebang of regulation
parseval: I think it's just if you sell it
Bowjob: im just sitting here fapping getting rich
Bowjob: i ougtta work or something. this feels cheating
deadweasel: coinbase just took my txn. given their history that doesn't mean anything.
Bugpowder: That FinCEN thing looks interesting
Bowjob: work at like mcdicks. make more money than the manager
smickles: i might actually have to pay federal income tax this coming year if this shit keeps up
BitHub: cant you just hide your coins and tell them you got hacked?
smickles: deadweasel: not when you trade it for usd
BitHub: cash out in another country
parseval: Or buy USD on an auction house
smickles: mircea_popescu: i'm not, it's just that i'm poor and haven't done it yet
smickles: also, they gave me ~4kusd for my kid this year
deadweasel: because 51%+ goes to something worse than churches
BitHub: right mircea because MPEX is paying coporate tax right?
BitHub: right so if everything is in btc why pay tax?
BitHub: i got hacked and all my coins are gone
smickles: if stuff like the fincen doc keep popping up, bitcoin 'revenue' isn't revenue
Bugpowder: bartering tokens are still taxable
mircea_popescu: of course, it wouldn't be the first time this here bird is considered a duck for the purpose of X law and a goose for the purpose of y law
BitHub: isn't your juridiction cyberspace?
smickles: Bugpowder: but it's taxed in a whole different way if you barter with it
smickles: that's right, mircea_popescu is an umpyr
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
gribble: There are currently 14319.578 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 768614.569271 USD in total. | Data vintage: 150.8870 seconds
mod6: Bugpowder: yeah thought that was weird
BitHub: When it comes to Tax why give money to a useless middleman that does a pretty terrible job at making the best of your money to make a better country, actually just waste alot, there's no point paying them when i can just hire people to make the country a lil bit less shit.
BitHub: i like to build parks, and roads, and speedhumps
mod6: something like deepbit payments or something
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
Bugpowder: Looks like 5000 BTC getting bounced from addresss to address with 2BTC missing each time
mod6: yeah something like 6500 upto 7600
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.20001, Best ask: 50.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 50.20001, 24 hour volume: 70775.46761279, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.16174
Bowjob: $50 is the new paradigm
Bugpowder: maybe its not stale... looks right
Bugpowder: How many russians are thinking of putting 1% in bitcoin.
deadweasel: the number in here listening Bugpowder
deadweasel: ssssshhhhhh, were hunting bitcoin... wascally bitcoin
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.53002, Best ask: 50.82998, Bid-ask spread: 0.29996, Last trade: 50.52002, 24 hour volume: 70828.14155647, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.16342
benkay: are there any good charts of goxlag?
benkay: given recent biz moves
pgp: tradehill looks like their down - soiled themselves already...
pgp: only adults have crossed order books...
pgp: at least that never happens on gox... lol
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.79898, Best ask: 50.79899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 50.79898, 24 hour volume: 71294.17494196, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.17302
benkay: is it unreasonable to ask for goxlag in the ticker?
pgp: how it it that bitcoinity is updating and gox's US "Partner" coinlab isn't...
smickles: < benkay> is it unreasonable to ask for goxlag in the ticker? << nanotube
pgp: betcha that bitcoinity could do some sort of gox lag chart...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.79898, Best ask: 50.79899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 50.79898, 24 hour volume: 71294.17494196, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.17302
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.79980, Best ask: 50.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05020, Last trade: 50.85000, 24 hour volume: 71804.32426947, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.19010
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was discussed here just a day or two ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009998 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: not something that can in principle be refuted, is it ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.84 = 2.52 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can measure (a good portion of) mpex's inbound btc, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: this is an open problem generally, there's even a serious bounty out for a certain formulation of it
mircea_popescu: there's like 5k bucks waiting to be won by some clever chap there
BitHub: Asset Protection, Privacy and Bitcoin for Solo Entrepreneurs Part 1/8
dub: one does not simply walk into passthrough
kakobrekla: - perpetual thinker, - permanent tourist, - possibility thinker - privacy techincian, - pirate pass through
dub: proffessional thetan?
mircea_popescu: Every client will receive a $75 credit to test trading and can activate an account with a deposit of at least $10,000, 200 Bitcoins, or $5,000 in Mt. Gox codes.
kakobrekla: give us a million and you get free cookie
pgp: I'm embarassed for them...
pgp: cleaned out their book , I see... My, my, what DEEP pool of liquidity they have...
kakobrekla: Ryan Singer > Kurt Durjan • 9 hours ago −
kakobrekla: Please email us at claim@tradehill.com and I will put you in touch with the person doing payouts for the old company
pgp: yikes... crossed order book is back!
pgp: are those sell orders @ 50 supposed to be AON orders or something - still doesn't make sense...
mircea_popescu: which isn't the dorks in the pic nor anything named tradehill
kakobrekla: we need some press site with some powah
pgp: book finally uncrossed... more lag than gox?
pgp: awesome! $1.50 spread
pgp: oops book gone again
kakobrekla: thes end of the world once per week on these exchanges
smickles: yeah, i'm not seeing any issue
smickles: and mpex proper is still there
smickles: pgp: if you're still having issues with the websites, use assbot or mpexbot
pgp: not a problem for me right now, just noting that website it inaccessible...
jborkl: they are both down,404.doesnt matter to me but just to let you know
smickles: weird, they are both up for me
jborkl: knowmultiple ip,same 404 errors on al
smickles: mpexbot should work even if mpex.co is down
smickles: mircea_popescu: are you seeing this?
smickles: mpexbot is getting a lot of network.in
smickles: mpexbot's load average is up to 0.08
pgp: 48 min since last block mined
mircea_popescu: 174.127.72.233/mpex/ << direct addressing also if it's a local dns issue/poisoning
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: traceroute ends at 173.192.118.141 ( po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com )
pgp: mp - that doesn't work either
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6227 shares, 31.76 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514093 / 0.00599987 (75748 shares, 389.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609733 / 0.0069 (2299780 shares, 14,022.52 BTC)
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic that's normal, it's the top level router of the dc
pgp: proxies don't seem to work
midnightmagic: mpex.ws doesn't resolve. same with mpex.bz, and.. hrm.. 216.182.224.87 (216.182.224.87) for the coinbr proxies.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: It's not normal for a traceroute to fail to traverse..
pgp: just sayin' - can't get to website... trying to offer datapoint from nyc area...
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Are you getting bent over by someone..?
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: My traceroute is from northern california..
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: That might just be cached. (the whois part)
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Do you have access to a looking glass?
Bugpowder: dies here : po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com (173.192.118.141) 131.070 ms
smickles: i've got a server in california
midnightmagic: smickles: Does your upstream give you bgp looking glass access?
Bugpowder: Actually, the DC Level 3 ip tried for 50 secondes then sent it thru Dallas, where it also failed.
midnightmagic: it would certainly be interesting if it were part of something deliberate. :-/
mircea_popescu: 2 Timed out 1 0 4.69.145.204 ae-4-90.edge2.dallas3.level3.net
mircea_popescu: 3 7 7 7 4.59.36.94 softlayer-t.edge2.dallas3.level3.net
mircea_popescu: 4 8 7 8 50.97.18.195 ae6.dar01.sr01.dal05.networklayer.com
mircea_popescu: 5 10 8 7 173.192.118.139 po1.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com
mircea_popescu: 6 8 8 8 174.127.72.233 174.127.72.233.static.midphase.com
smickles: midnightmagic: i'm so noob on this topic, i don't even know
smickles: my cali traceroute didn't look special
Bugpowder: still hanging at po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com (173.192.118.141) 89.246 ms
smickles: it must be in a different part
midnightmagic: maybe iran screwed their bgp advertisements up again
Bugpowder: 172.127.72.233 loads for me... text only, but the /mpex does not
smickles: text only? you're looking at the site as intended
pgp: although 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ does resolve...
pgp: the google translator has the article beginning with "May be the reasons explained when talking about behavioral deviations , or if it is not of course a conspiracy of blacks, Jews, Masons, English and former wives . It is true that I lean toward the first explanation, "What do I know?"
pgp: fascinating material - really...
pgp: I'm sure google isn't capturing the nuance of message...
mircea_popescu: anyway, i've told sysadmin ppls, see what they come up with
dub: you should stick some soa elsewhere so we can at least tell when you're gettign dosed
mircea_popescu: dub best i can tell there's some dns poisoning going on
pgp: although lumping in "former housewives" (or should it just be former wives) in with blacks, jew, mason and... english does strike me as subtly genius on a level that I'm not quite sure I understand....
dub: um I don't think thats teh right question
dub: I can reach 174.127.72.233
mircea_popescu: if you update your dns to have mpex.co resolve there you're good to go.
dub: and polimedia is not resolving
jborkl: polimedia.us not resolving
mircea_popescu: not clear if intentional or accidental, if directed at mpex or just affecting some users, but the dns's are borkt.
dub: your problem is the soa is unreachable
dub: well your soa records are on your domain
dub: if I cant resolve soa for polimedia.us im not goign to be able to ask ns1/2.polimedia.us how to get there
pgp: btw 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ seems to resolve to random MP musings...
mircea_popescu: if some user gets his dns fucked up and can't resolve that server
mircea_popescu: dub ns1/2 are registered as ns's tho, pretty much every dns server should know them by ip
pgp: I'm now getting: Moment poetic.
pgp: Octombrie 25, 2010 | Autor: Mircea Popescu
pgp: De-ai adormi iubito pe linia ferata
pgp: Imbujorate trenuri te-or ocoli tiptil
pgp: Din ceruri au sa ninga baloturi mari de vata
pgp: Vor fi betii de roua, se va dansa cadril.
dub: mircea_popescu: they will cache them for however long you instruct them to, then they will have to ask you again
dub: but only after someone asks them
dub: anyone this doesnt work for do: dig +trace polimedia.us
dub: for me there is no 'glue' in the root
mircea_popescu: ;; Received 228 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 49 ms
gribble: Error: "Received" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: ;; Received 98 bytes from 156.154.127.70#53(c.cctld.us) in 50 ms
gribble: Error: "Received" is not a valid command.
jborkl: mobile 4g service reaches it fine
mircea_popescu: somebody fucked up their dns best i can determine atm.
jborkl: ok back up on all ip tried
dub: mircea_popescu: anyway, use another domain for SOA
dub: except we cant reach mpex or polimedia
gigatube: Call the system administrator!
dub: its been a long time since I gave a shit about dns so I cannot elucidate
dub: being 7 hours into a fault bridge dun't help
dub: suffice to say you have engineered yourself a spiffing spof there
mod6: dig @a.cctld.us polimedia.us ANY << so if you dig here, you get the forward zone, its just the gtld-servers that don't return a valid pointer
mod6: someone is doing something funny though
mod6: same thing with this: dig @a.cctld.us mpex.co ANY
mod6: they both have the same NS entries
mod6: mpexbot is still working as far as I can tell...
dub: I think his ns are just gettign hit
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6227 shares, 31.76 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514093 / 0.00599987 (75748 shares, 389.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609733 / 0.0069 (2299780 shares, 14,022.52 BTC)
mod6: and, yeah, i got a successful stat back
mod6: what's strange is that even if they're blasting his NS's and trying to poison them, that shouldn't effect the gltd??
dub: dig @63.247.64.93 polimedia.us ANY +short
dub: noerror but no record either
dub: but I'm seeing 25% PL to them too
mircea_popescu: confirms that Chase Bank's website has indeed been hacked
mod6: dub: hmm. yeah i guess us and cc have they're own tld servers.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 2699.4102 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 143185.579577 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
benkay: those ripple weirdos, amirite?
benkay: i thought we were evolving past debt-based economies
gribble: There are currently 14956.903 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 851660.539216 USD in total. | Data vintage: 50.4408 seconds
benkay: some of us are trying to i now understand
mod6: oh bummer, this is pretty funnay
mod6: i like the guy @ 1:20 or so, cracks me up
mod6: and by "guy" i mean the goat, not the actual human
dub: people on this call thinking im nuts now
gribble: There are currently 1728.8819 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 91113.8927114 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
mod6: anyway, i guess im just dusty
mod6: cuz back in the day they didn't have fancy ass tld's like co, or us lol
Chaang-Noi: they are fail for drop shipping anyway
Chaang-Noi: if i was in the usa i would offer a much better service, i have shitloads of stuff in stock already
benkay: some bureaucrats won at making bitcoin welcome in america
benkay: or whatever their name is
benkay: the way i see this is that some bureaucrats decided to let bitcoin grow on its own here
benkay: don't click that link if you value your privacy
BitHub: usa bitcoin companies are fucking idiots
BitHub: feel like herston at the end of planet of the apes
BitHub: you maniacs you blew it up
mod6: why are yall worried?
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)
benkay: the usg has a tendency to overreact, and may yet
benkay: but sometimes they let things be and try to just go after criminals
BitHub: because bitcoin is going get gang banged by western laws and regulation
benkay: our government is like a pmsing older sister
benkay: sometimes arbitrarily bitchy
BitHub: they will fail if you're not based in usa
benkay: sometimes is like "hey kid have a joint"
BitHub: if your usa resident of usa bitcoin company consider yourself fucked
Bugpowder: VC's have money and may have been waiting for legal guidanc
mircea_popescu: ok, dns poisoning should be clearing atm by special arrangementy
benkay: i don't need to not pay taxes to live off bitcoins
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066743 / 0.00069359 / 0.00076717 (465282 shares, 322.72 BTC), 7D: 0.00066743 / 0.00071669 / 0.00077241 (2302852 shares, 1,650.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00070265 / 0.00078628 (40174787 shares, 28,229.00 BTC)
Bugpowder: The more clarity there is to the marketplace the more willing people are to invest and build companies
benkay: i don't need to not pay taxes to build profitable businesses period.
BitHub: just email the gov your wallet.dat file and give up
benkay: great for network. forces miners to spend in-network.
Bugpowder: cause who really is gonna hunt u down over 25BTC
BitHub: the gov gave up on google and apple
BitHub: and now going after everyone else
Bugpowder: so breaking up guilds is kinda good too. BTCguild went over 40%
BitHub: thank christ not a usa resident or usa bitcoin company
benkay: i want to meet the people who wrote those regulations
Bugpowder: Coinlab et al, is unclear. Could be a tougher road, but leaves a path open.
mircea_popescu: On a more general note : the time of cowboy style, “one man and his hopes” fiat-BTC exchanges has passed. The exchange market is moving into a new phase. There is room on it for MtGox, on account of its old age and well known brand, and for people like the Frenchies doing that bitcoin-central partner-with-a-bank thing. All other exchanges are going out, and things being what they are the majority of them will be go
mircea_popescu: Because of this, keeping money in any other fiat-BTC exchanges than those two is pretty much cruisin’ for a bruisin’. Spot sellers may still be safe for a while, select ones may even be safe forever (as they’re a subset of the OTC style marketplace), but for better or worse cowboy exchanges are a thing of the past.
Bugpowder: A real company will be able to pass regs
BitHub: yeah i cant wait to use paypal's bitcoin service
benkay: as a normal user it'll be perfect, bithub
BitHub: i cant wait to have all the old dinosaur fucks involved
mod6: except when they "freeze" your private key lol
benkay: yeah, but norms don't need to care about that
mod6: ok just send me ur btc plz
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.74014, Best ask: 51.99996, Bid-ask spread: 0.25982, Last trade: 51.99998, 24 hour volume: 75673.06898668, 24 hour low: 47.20000, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.44165
Bugpowder: Regualtory pressure was my biggest worry
BitHub: if it hits 100 im cashing out for good
BitHub: and moving onto something else
BitHub: move onto it quickly before it gets raped by western laws and regulation
benkay: i see a road to acceptance in america.
benkay: it'll be hard and it'll take leadership
Bugpowder: This the the DREAM act for bitcoin
BitHub: you'll just have the same old dinosaurs controlling bitcoin
BitHub: to be honest id rather go back to cash
Bugpowder: I am 75% sure that IRS will issue tax guidance before year end too
benkay: someone put this into the title
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder if it reads like youi want it to read we're golden
mod6: no white flags, only black flags
BitHub: this is only revelent to USA people right?
Bugpowder: don't leave them parked on exchances
BitHub: so i shouldn't give a shit?
Bugpowder: Naw... Has major exchage rate implications
Bugpowder: If it fucks liquidity that will be bad short term
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.831 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.831 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: But I think the market will view as net positive
error4733: they alway hit the money first (fiat
benkay: "users of virtual currency"
BitHub: good luck trying to cash out 1 million dollars
mod6: why would you want to cash out to near-worthless fiat?
BitHub: i'm not doing anything criminal
Bugpowder: Suppose you wanted to buy a Tesla.
Bugpowder: Elon has not responded to my tweets re: the Bitcoins for Tesla plan
BitHub: BitHub paid for those tits
Diablo-D3: Elon likes Bitcoin but wont publically state it
BitHub: i'm a contractor for BitHub
Bugpowder: Got a friend who has dinner with him occasionally
BitHub: so is the gov goign to tax me from my job or from bitcoin/
BitHub: anyway my wallet got hacked
Bugpowder: Its the return of the Honest John system
BitHub: yeah got to cash out secretly
Bugpowder: I might have to take down my localbitcoins profile though
benkay: that's what the irs ruling will determine
BitHub: like an actual drug deal
benkay: or buy stuff with them
dub: why not just pay tax you fucking leeches
Bugpowder: I am still waiting for my headphones
dub: you get a society, pay for it
BitHub: yeah dub's right we should pay tax on it to get more guns
BitHub: we don't have enough guns in america
error4733: i live in nigeria i dont have society
mircea_popescu: dub i don't mind paying whores, but only if they're on their knees.
benkay: you can also think about taxation as endorsing your local government
BitHub: why pay a middleman that does a shit job at creating a society?
dub: BitHub: I dont live in america, I pay tax to get healthcare, education, a working society
BitHub: its already at about 30-35 %
dub: and yes look after people less useful than me
dub: but its cheaper to feed them than let them die
error4733: be happy, you could leave in Cyprus
BitHub: its a sick joke anyway
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
gribble: There are currently 148225.44 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 5579457.76514 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0145 seconds
mircea_popescu: <dub> but its cheaper to feed them than let them die <! ?what ?
BitHub: try and put real life bullshit rules on me
gribble: There are currently 57979983 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8084076.7019 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.3481 seconds
dub: mircea_popescu: having people dying about the place is a big burden on society
dub: its cheaper to give them $20k/year to buy ciggaretes and gamble
BitHub: why don't the gov get their money off google and apple first
BitHub: get them to pay their proper tax
Bugpowder: not really. Healthcare is the main gov cost
Thinker: its cheaper in the long run to let them die off
benkay: big blowout around 10m
dub: mircea_popescu: cheaper than scraping them up out of teh gutter
BitHub: so broke, they'll have to live by china's rules soon anyway
mircea_popescu: you can do that with power tools, costs nothing per pound
dub: its also a shitload cheapt than sticking them in prison
mircea_popescu: and the value of me showing random forum idiots what happens iof they continue is > 9000
mircea_popescu: this is the problem with unbeaten children and "everyone living comfortably"
dub: well the reality is this shit is factually correct
mircea_popescu: dub not rly. you just want it to be correct so as not to be forced to reevaluate the coolaid you've been fed.
Thinker: cut off the entitlements. that will make them choose between work or death. remove the safety nets that are being used like hammocks.
dub: no, I understand the economics of it
dub: what you are advocating for is america
dub: and that is clearly working well
mircea_popescu: i mean forget the strawmen and red herrings for a second.
mircea_popescu: the cost of pushing dead bodies with a bulldozer vs the cost of pretending like the idiots are people.
dub: the problem is pushign the dead into a hole is not the only cost, there is fallout
BitHub: here we go again, make something illegal for the lil guys, but really expensive licencing for the big boys
mircea_popescu: familiar with the millions for defense but not a penny in bribes line ?
BitHub: would you pay a guy alot of your money if all he did was cockblock you from a really hot girl all the time?
Bugpowder: How expensive will this licensing actually be?
dub: ok, perhaps the problem is that we are already at a toage of societal evolution where reverting ro your ideal is not feasable
BitHub: expensive, bet your ass on that
BitHub: Money Transmitter license
dub: not without some genocide at the front
Bugpowder: Lawyers are expensive, but its still pretty hard to hit $1MM on a single tranactional licensing setup
mircea_popescu: as long as i got the money you're not telling me what's feasible.
BitHub: tax is just another life's scams
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is pretty much the end of mandatory taxation. society will have to cope.
benkay: government's that actually work
benkay: shit yeah oh i totally get it
benkay: government as a service
BitHub: your first statement mircea brings me alot of relief
Thinker: socialism ("free" stuff from government) disrupts natural selection.
mircea_popescu: watch cops help old ladies cross the street on this model.
dub: socialism does nto provide free stuff
benkay: cops may actually have to engage in dialogue with citizens
benkay: about what should be enforced
BitHub: intead of just beating them?
Thinker: cops will realize that yes, we are their boss and not the other way around.
Bugpowder: There are almost 40,000 registered money transmitters in the US
dub: and cops are already scum of the earth
Bugpowder: It costs $1000 to register in Washington state
dub: if you are not good at anything you become a cop or a teacher
benkay: departments aren't interdependent
benkay: forest service can accept "tithe"
dub: if you can handle a mop you go into the janitorial arts which probalby pays better
Bugpowder: SO..... If coinlab can't handle something of this moderate level of effort and cost, I don't want to deal with them
Thinker: i know how we can get more people employed. eliminate minimum wage and entitlements.
benkay: i haven't felt like this since reading ayn rand as a wee one
dub: benkay: thats all well and good, but really you are just reinventing states
benkay: one must keep riff raff like you out
BitHub: so you just need a 1000$ licence?
mircea_popescu: and moreover, they're about as socialist as the uk by now
benkay: this enables sea farming
Bugpowder: So, my reading of the FinCEN guidance is more positive now that it is established that it costs $1000 to register in WA. I don't know if that let's you operate in other states as well, but if you need to register in all states then lets say $50,000 and a pain in the ass.
Bugpowder: BitHub: Looks like it. It would take some lawyer time to make sure the t's are crossed and i's dotted.
Bugpowder: Sure. But this is PEANUTS for a real company
mircea_popescu: on top of 20+ btc expected from bet resolutions there's about 10btc or so coming from people who tried to leech the btc/usd rate bet and got in too late.
BitHub: so better to have paypal in there then say give me a go
mod6: they tried to game the weight along side of the exchange rate?
mod6: anyway, thats interesting. thanks for the heads up mp.
mircea_popescu: it's reallty delicious when wanna-be cheaters get rammed.
mod6: mpex.co seems to work fine for me over
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assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 37.53972864 / 42.55721868 / 57.53184036 (20165 shares, 3,142.64 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
kakobrekla: they are refunded if they come before bet is closed but after the event
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)
assbot: Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.0018 BTC [+]
mod6: need a volume data point maybe
kakobrekla: > however this stock is going to be better than fiat.
mod6: growing up here in the U.S. I was taught to hate all paper currency that wasn't backed by sound money. but then they go, "well, except we don't have the ``gold-standard'' any more since they went off the Bretton Woods system." "Ummm.. so what do they do now???" "Well they say we have this petro-dollar"...
mod6: "ok so why did we go off the gold standard?" "to pay for the vietnam war.." "so what do we do when it goes to 0?" "hopefully that'll be long after we're gone..."
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6827 shares, 34.82 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514061 / 0.00599987 (76348 shares, 392.48 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609701 / 0.0069 (2300180 shares, 14,024.24 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1544 @ 0.00073702 = 1.138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7570 @ 0.00073701 = 5.5792 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: or maybe not, its not like people are making cars... :/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5827 @ 0.0007431 = 4.33 BTC [+]
Namworld: Looks like I'm only earning 4 BTC weekly on my stuff...
Namworld: Guess I need to keep working on my portfolio.
Chaang-Noi: $800 a month not bad, but why not just asicminer? :)
Namworld: I got a bit of ASICMINER. Not enough in my taste but anyway.
dub: !ticket btctc ASICMINER-PT
dub: !ticker btctc ASICMINER-PT
assbot: [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.82 / 0.85386 / 0.870899 (86 shares, 73.4 BTC), 7D: 0.695 / 0.79714 / 0.9489 (1507 shares, 1201.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.74566 / 1 (2960 shares, 2207.2 BTC)
gribble: There are currently 921.05612 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 48812.979279 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
gribble: [03:04:10] <Chaang-Noi> ;;asks 53
BitHub: batch 3 worth getting?
Chaang-Noi: without doing the math and the guess work, i would say i think so
gribble: There are currently 722.61371 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 38298.5268802 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 52.99 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.9715 seconds
gribble: There are currently 38.803471 bitcoins offered at or under 52.99 USD, worth 2056.19594419 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.11001, Best ask: 53.48997, Bid-ask spread: 0.37996, Last trade: 53.11001, 24 hour volume: 86658.81830554, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.98340
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 34.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.6629 seconds
gribble: There are currently 482.93073 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 26065.6459656 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.7521 seconds
gribble: There are currently 6252.8908 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 342685.770975 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.6435 seconds
gribble: Error: "gox" is not a valid command.
gribble: There are currently 897.77964 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 48343.2061181 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.4904 seconds
kakobrekla: >I totally agree and we understand this. Timing is crucial and we have only a couple of months to make serious profits. Bitfury did not sleep for last 2 days :-)
kakobrekla: well, he he has the best know-how of them all
Line_: what's this password thing?
Chaang-Noi: im not sure who is doing the bitfury, i did not follow that stuff to closely
kakobrekla: are you on the same internet as we are?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.60000, Best ask: 53.69991, Bid-ask spread: 0.09991, Last trade: 53.60000, 24 hour volume: 87411.56184324, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.87500, 24 hour vwap: 50.02467
Chaang-Noi: okay i did look at them before and assumed scam
kakobrekla: well dunno about the whole picostocks thingy
vampireb: hmm did they deliver the fcpga?
kakobrekla: 12:16.27 ( kakobrekla ) [12:13:26] well dunno about the whole picostocks thingy
kakobrekla: but someone dumped him 350k to make the prototype chip
kakobrekla: vampireb yup but the devices never seen the light of public
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.88798, Best ask: 53.88880, Bid-ask spread: 0.00082, Last trade: 53.88880, 24 hour volume: 87468.56354421, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.88880, 24 hour vwap: 50.03290
Line_: anyone paid with bitpay on here before?
Bowjob: looks like avalon is gearing for number 3
Line_: There's no account i set up,right?
Line_: they have until the 15th according their website
Bowjob: they should by now. lots of ppl are reporting that they got theirs
Bowjob: i assume the rest are hush hush
Bowjob: i wonder if number 3 is a good buy
Bowjob: i wouldnt mind reselling them
Bowjob: mhm, id love another module on mine actually
Chaang-Noi: its hard for me to order batch 3 with not fully on batch 1
Bowjob: infinitely better than bfl, actually
gribble: There are currently 579.33782 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 31281.906441 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.3135 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50754217 = 1.0151 BTC [-]
Bowjob: suddenly people who have money in their mattress seem so fucking smart
mjr_: smarter than people with money in cypriot banks
mjr_: less smart than people with money in bitcoins
Bowjob: I wanna travel to some other countries..
Chaang-Noi: 2/3 of the money is russian money.. and tehy thought the russan govt would tax it, muhahahaha
Bowjob: but I fear I might be a target as a tourist
Bowjob: id need some sort of body guard
kakobrekla: yeah i was paranoid too when i was checkin prime miner
Bowjob: i think ill just stay in canada. ive seen too many beheadings
Bowjob: mexico is one scary place
Chaang-Noi: i have been around, even war zones, no one has ever fucked with me
Bowjob: thailand seems a scary place too. ive seen bloated bodies everywhere
Bowjob: tho, the food is pretty nice
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.99001, Best ask: 54.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 54.00000, 24 hour volume: 87866.28367331, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 54.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.05095
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50663276 = 1.0133 BTC [-]
gribble: 1 BTC = 53.98003 U.S. dollars = 41.7027426 Euros
tiberiusiv: cyprus losses are positive for the euro
tiberiusiv: people will now do due deligience when choosing banks vs accepting any ridiculous interest rate
Bowjob: I checked my bank, they advertised 1.89% GIC for 18 months as sizzling rate
gribble: There are currently 5818.8542 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 319138.813903 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
tiberiusiv: bowjob: most of the depositors in cyprys were earning high rates for a decade +
tiberiusiv: bowjob: the cyprus banks held all their $$ in greek bonds
tiberiusiv: sure when deposit insurance guarantees your account
tiberiusiv: you dont care what the bank does with the $
tiberiusiv: the depositers are recieving a great deal, 9% loss or 100%
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50663276 = 1.0133 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: same is in the US, all deposits have been lent out, they are sitting in mortgages, ccs, bonds, carloans
mjr_: it's a wonderful life?
mjr_: yes, you don't actually have money in the bank
mjr_: you have a promise from the bank to pay you when you ask
tiberiusiv: if rates rise in the US the entire banking system will be insolvent
Chaang-Noi: so the insurance is not being paid? lulz, time for scammer tag
tiberiusiv: and there wont be quality assets for the fed to buy
mjr_: cyprus situation is fucked up
mjr_: scammer tag on cyprus govt?
tiberiusiv: chaang: its impossible for the government to insure the accounts, the insurance fund does not even cover 1%
tiberiusiv: chaang: for example in the US, the FDIC has maybe 1% in reserve to cover deposits
tiberiusiv: mjr_: depositors had over 2 years to realize cyprus banks were bust
tiberiusiv: how is it a sudden thing? everyone knew cyprus banks held all their assets as greek bonds
tiberiusiv: why were the locals all surprised, did they not read the news for the last 24 months lol
mjr_: that is not the point
mjr_: i am sure lots of people (prob those least likely to be harmed) got their money out
mjr_: the point is i gave you money, you said it was insured and that you would pay it when i asked, you broke your promise to pay
tiberiusiv: thats your fault for trusting in government
mjr_: since all you gave me in return for my money was your promise to pay, the fact that you can't do that one thing...scammer
tiberiusiv: you have thousands of years of history to look back on government defaulting
mjr_: and i don't keep money in banks
tiberiusiv: not to mention cyprys residents had 6 years since greece became shaky
mjr_: i'm just saying, more than likely it will be small business owners and average working people who will be hurt in cyprus
tiberiusiv: well theres a reason they are average and working
mjr_: they weren't using the bank as a "tax haven" they were using it as a "bank"
mjr_: anyway, i'm with you on that, don't trust govt or banks
mjr_: just saying, this is the reason i don't trust them
tiberiusiv: instead of spending most of their time watching sports and drinking wine they should have devoted even 30minutes to read the bear case
mjr_: whether they should have seen it coming does not excuse the fact that they did that
mjr_: and again, they get hurt, but not because they deserve it, it is of course in their best interest to look out for themselves and not get hurt
mjr_: but you still can find fault with the one hurting them
tiberiusiv: i think people should lose 100% of their deposits
tiberiusiv: teach people a good lesson about being naive and lazy
jurov: tiberiusiv, can i extend that to coinbr? but i have everything on mpex anyway :/
mircea_popescu: lol listen tiberiusiv, something like a 30 to 40% haircut => collapse.
tiberiusiv: 70 years of debt creation has to end at some point
mircea_popescu: this is true, but no government ever has or ever will survive a one third haircut of assets.
tiberiusiv: plus all the real wealth in the world will not be lost
tiberiusiv: well the only other option is to attempt to inflate away
tiberiusiv: problem with that arguement is the debt size is simply too large
tiberiusiv: in advanced economies the bond markets are huge, they will increase rates on any inflate attempts
tiberiusiv: total credit market debt in US is 58trillion, bernanke is having a difficult time creating 3tril
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: mircea: if it wasnt too large to inflate, then greek bonds would have been made 100% whole
tiberiusiv: you arent bailing greeks out but greek creditors
tiberiusiv: which are trade surplus nations like germany
mjr_: trade surplus just means "we make things people want"
tiberiusiv: no it means you run a vendor financing model
tiberiusiv: think of germany as a large department store, and all of its customers use only the store credit card to purchase goods
tiberiusiv: then the bill comes due and no one can pay
tiberiusiv: in the meantime all your factories are leveraged to the hilt from borrowing to expand, to meet fake demand
mircea_popescu: well... perhaps exaggerated but certainly something to it.
tiberiusiv: notice how german industry bought up so many firms over the last decade?
tiberiusiv: thats all from operational debt incurred to expand production of cars nobody could afford
tiberiusiv: largest losses will happen to creditors like germany at some point
mjr_: well...perhaps there is something to the old saying "neither a borrower or a lender be..."
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.79901, Best ask: 53.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 53.80000, 24 hour volume: 89545.76316294, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 54.28880, 24 hour vwap: 50.13851
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50240325 = 502.4033 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.50240325 / 0.50243028 / 0.50754217 (1006 shares, 505.44 BTC), 7D: 0.50240325 / 0.50243028 / 0.50754217 (1006 shares, 505.44 BTC), 30D: 0.50240325 / 1.04607226 / 1.53153505 (29789 shares, 31,161.45 BTC)
mircea_popescu: that line got 30k worth of trades thios month, it;'s been crazy
mircea_popescu: "we hope to be able to finally be back to regular delays by April."
Chaang-Noi: what is the price on a call option for 30 d for 75 btc?
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1 @ 1425081']
assbot: You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Bids: ['1000 @ 2']
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1 @ 1425081', '1000 @ 5181251']
mircea_popescu: costs you about half a btc to buy, get 2 satoshi per if you sell
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1D: 0.23958397 / 0.23958397 / 0.23958397 (4 shares, 0.96 BTC), 7D: 0.23 / 0.23479198 / 0.23958397 (8 shares, 1.88 BTC), 30D: 0.12612881 / 0.19916485 / 0.23958397 (15018 shares, 2,991.06 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50210205 = 502.1021 BTC [-]
mjr_: what does the (4 shares, 0.96 BTC) mean?
mjr_: is that outstanding?
Chaang-Noi: so if i spent 1 btc i would get 20 contracts, so if btc went to 75 or more i then get them, or just the fiat over 75?
mjr_: mircea_popescu: thanks, that was me...so i was wondering why my trade was on there
mircea_popescu: mjr_ well... what do you mean why ? cause it was traded
Chaang-Noi: but the btc will be valued at the current price
Bowjob: wanna crash LTC again?
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi no, at the then current price. hence the /76 if price is 76
Chaang-Noi: bowjob i have been thinking about it, all down to .008 but not right now
Bowjob: id appreciate a heads up Lol
mjr_: mircea_popescu: was just curious, i sold half my position of the 41 calls for .96 btc (4 contracts) i still have four more :)
Bowjob: I managed to arb 6 BTC from 10 to 11
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.105 = 0.945 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: so to get 20x 1/76 a btc it would not be worth spending 1 btc, lol
mircea_popescu: if it goes to 200 you get 125 / 200 = .62 each x 20 = 13 btc so like 13x
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: .05 is just way to high, that low ass bid is fine,
Chaang-Noi: im sure they would love to have that filled
mircea_popescu: anyway, far out of the money calls are great from a fiat perspective. say you are sure btc is going to 500. what can you do ?
mircea_popescu: well... you could send 50k usd to an exchange and buy 1000 btc. but this takes time and all the bs.
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.105 = 0.945 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you could also buy 20 btc and then buy options with them, gain 400 btc exposure that way
Chaang-Noi: yerah there are uses for options, i used to trade them when oil was doing so well
Chaang-Noi: but that .05 price is just unreasonable
mjr_: its a nice way to give yourself exposure
mircea_popescu: so you look at it... well i bought 50 dollars worth of 1 btc, got 20 calls at 75, now i made 13 btc which are worth 200 each. so from 50 to 2600 dollars.
mjr_: is jurov on right now?
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi then probably selling puts is better for you
mjr_: i was wondering if you could write options on coinbr...
mircea_popescu: with all the problems us people have buying esp large ammts of btc
Bowjob: the oix changed drastically
mjr_: i would like to sell puts and buy calls at a certain price
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 57.53184036 / 57.53184036 (6757 shares, 788.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Bowjob: theres this house for sale in dallas
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50180097 = 501.801 BTC [-]
mjr_: heard there was an apt for rent in bitcoins in spain
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.856 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8649 = 2.5947 BTC [+]
mjr_: did anyone hear about etoro? was that just a rumor?
mjr_: i couldn't find it on their site
Bowjob: i wish i didnt play dice back then lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8649 = 1.7298 BTC [+]
Bowjob: id have even more money now
Bowjob: i cant really complain.. ill be rich off of this
Bowjob: the dollar amount shows 47 per coin
Bowjob: then again I wish I went all in, including some unemployment, I would have gotten avout $150 grand by now
Bowjob: etoro will basically start trading btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00076039 = 6.7295 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50089845 = 500.8985 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: might take huge market share away from mtgox?
Bowjob: would it be favourable for someone who bought a mini rig eons ago to capitulate and wait to pre order avalon # 3 instead?
mircea_popescu: it will just fade for six months or a year, then some clueless nitwit a la Ryan Singer will "bring it back"
tiberiusiv: wont etoro take substantial marketshare from mtgox
mircea_popescu: they were bleeding market share pretty much monthly since 2011 or so
Chaang-Noi: bowjob i just looked at ltc, it would take more than what i want to spend to get ltc under .08
Chaang-Noi: i will be happy when mt gox has less than 105 market share
Bowjob: it seems to be dropping like a rock
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.49456206 = 0.9891 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: lots of support in the .08 to .088 range
Bowjob: im glad to got rid of it at 0.11
Bowjob: i bought at 0.1 too lol
Chaang-Noi: i did not expect what it did, and that is why i sold almost 100k of ltc
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.49700001 = 496.006 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.35270204 = 0.7054 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: but i wont sell more, in a year it will be much higher, esp if we get it listed at trade hill
kakobrekla: i made 100% on ltc in a few days as well
Bowjob: well btc will be much higher too
tiberiusiv: why would ltc go anywhere? it just offers nothing
tiberiusiv: how many google clones have done well?
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv the one reasonable explanation i heard so far is arbitraring bitcoin testing
mircea_popescu: ie, they have free testing, stuff like the berkley db etc
imsaguy: litecoin isn't a bitcoin test
mjr_: dude did you guys hear about berlusconi?
imsaguy: mjr_: did you ask if we cared?
mjr_: imsaguy: sorry, do you care?
mjr_: figured that was a rhetorical question
tiberiusiv: the litecoin people dont understand that ASICs increase ltc difficulty as well
Chaang-Noi: btc has forked or too many transactions, use ltc:)
mjr_: mircea_popescu: 4 million a month in alimony
tiberiusiv: as less efficient miners drop out of bitcoin, they increase ltc difficulty
mjr_: his wife said: it would be more dignified to stop here...i can't stay with a man who consorts with minors
mjr_: after he attended an 18 year old models birthday party
Chaang-Noi: making ltcs network strong help move the price up
mjr_: like, sure, cheat on me...but please do it with more age appropriate women
Chaang-Noi: how many times did he see her before 18? lol
tiberiusiv: if bitcoin fails that will be the end of crypto for a decade +
Bowjob: k i thought it was just a cathloic thing
mjr_: tiberiusiv: i think that its biggest threat is something better
mjr_: and if that happens, it will be that new thing
mircea_popescu: Bowjob the fact is, the way the human body works first pregnancy should be delivered around 18 years of age.
tiberiusiv: ltc was made so people who cant afford to invest into equip can continue "mining"
Bowjob: but hes not catholic priest
tiberiusiv: the problem is that BTC asics increase litecoin difficulty
imsaguy: jurov, when's hte big payday?
Bowjob: litecoin dropping like a bitch
tiberiusiv: mircea: do you think coinlab succeeds?
Chaang-Noi: age of consent here is 15, 18 is getting on the old side for the culture here
Chaang-Noi: ltc did not even hit that resistance at .088 i told you about
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: SEC investigation
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.49154267 = 0.9831 BTC [+]
imsaguy: every good startup has one.
Bowjob: what resistance i dont see it
Bowjob: were down to 0.0087, no resistance
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.49252684 = 491.5418 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 54.64859, Best ask: 54.99989, Bid-ask spread: 0.35130, Last trade: 54.64859, 24 hour volume: 94878.61374780, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.40729
Bowjob: 400 BTC support at 0.0082
Bowjob: imo take the profits and run
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6273 @ 0.00075833 = 4.757 BTC [-]
Bowjob: you cant go wrong either way
Bowjob: then when that support is down, its all downhil
Chaang-Noi: i took some profit, i made like 600% even if i lose everything else i hold, im not worried
Bowjob: this is highly lucrative
Chaang-Noi: 90k ltc dump to get to .008, i wont do it
pgp: tradehill lesson - don't write check with your mouth that you butt can't cash
Chaang-Noi: yeah btc was useless after 1.5 years too
kakobrekla: yeah and now is useful cause we didnt have btc
Chaang-Noi: when btc is forked you dont have btc now either:)
Chaang-Noi: ill sell more ltc once this may 15th stuff is over
kakobrekla: i see litecoin is somewhat like debian
kakobrekla: stable means all developers have been dead for years
Bowjob: My stupid friend is now kicking himself for not buying BTC at 17
Chaang-Noi: if it works it works, btc is ltcs test coin
kakobrekla: Bowjob tell him he will be kickin himself later for not buying at 55
Bowjob: everytime it goes up, he says... BTC will go down. when BTC goes down, he says BTC will go down further
Bowjob: tahts his reasoning every fucking time
Chaang-Noi: i told freinds and family to buy at 3.5 never said shit again
Bowjob: i gave hima heads up at the flash crash
Chaang-Noi: people slowly come back and be like, still good time to but,
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.4857348 BTC [-]
pgp: the 'hill is back up...
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49193244 = 491.4405 BTC [+]
pgp: i wonder, do you think that they are just running a gox shadow book?
Bowjob: I told him since he's such a sensitive guy, I can sell him $100 worth of bitcoins
pgp: when the connection to gox dies - so does their "prime" order book
Bowjob: he wants to buy 5 BTC now, and pretend he got them at "$20 each"
pgp: either they are the worst technologists ever or they are relying on third party
Bowjob: chang, is that yours the 374 BTC sell
jurov: mjr_ yes i'm here, pm me
jurov: and sorry for mpex.coinbr.com problem, forgot to update the configs :/
gribble: There are currently 2255.5627 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 124055.895521 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Chaang-Noi: wall is falling faster than i expected
pgp: that is exactly what they are doing... they are showing the gox book $.55 worse... lol...
pgp: I'd call that a scam, unless, of course, it's "free" to trade with them, in which case they are embedding the gox commission in their prices. In any case, their pathetic relaunched "website" has no information on fees...
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48888954 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3127 @ 0.00075423 = 2.3585 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00076039 = 4.5243 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3539 @ 0.00076091 = 2.6929 BTC [+]
pgp: go to bitfinex for the proof
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49044849 = 489.958 BTC [+]
pgp: yep - tradehill is offering gox at a 1.0% markup
Bowjob: misspelled gavin's last name
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 2388.2445 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 131351.566213 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.2296 seconds
Bowjob: btc-e trollbox are now patting each other's back at BTC's downfall
Bowjob: "coinman1980: when ltc eventually gets media attention btc will suffer"
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48338803 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49015205 = 489.6619 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8649 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01498 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.01499 = 0.2099 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 150 @ 0.0049 = 0.735 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.015 = 0.075 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.016 = 0.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.017 BTC [+]
Bowjob: This is what "enlightened" 14 year olds think about bitcoin
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0175 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00071 = 0.071 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.105 = 0.84 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: As a currency for purchasing power, I grew up with the US dollar so I'm used to having stability enforced by people way more powerful than myself. If I were stuck using certain other national currencies, I would probably be more inclined to appreciate bitcoin's efforts. Especially if that currency was subject to BS levels of printing printing printing.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.4748 = 0.9496 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8649 BTC [+]
BitHub: i seen asicminer selling for 1btc on bitcointalk forums
Bowjob: asicminer going for 1 BTC means
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.0099 = 0.0297 BTC [-]
Bowjob: that someone is expecting asicminer to make more than 400k BTC?
BitHub: cant be bothered searching for it
BitHub: its in there somewhere
BitHub: TradeFortress Auction? i think
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.0099 = 0.198 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 54.70013, Best ask: 54.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04987, Last trade: 54.70000, 24 hour volume: 95343.84225840, 24 hour low: 47.41103, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.52650
Chaang-Noi: iv been very active on asicminer threads on the form and im going to call bs on the 1btc thing
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48741637 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: maybe someone offered it at that but not many trades will have been done at that price
Chaang-Noi: ill belive 1 50 share block at that price, but its too high...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 54.70001, Best ask: 54.89998, Bid-ask spread: 0.19997, Last trade: 54.89999, 24 hour volume: 95603.50817862, 24 hour low: 47.41103, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.53990
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.48926344 = 488.7742 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01334 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
assbot: Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0051 BTC [+]
Bowjob: someone lost 400 BTC on dice 12 hrs ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48666662 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.4874894 BTC [+]
Bowjob: I believe the trollbox is in stage 1. It can be remedied if LTC stops falling like a brick.
Chaang-Noi: anyone know if one could get a phD after an MBA?
Chaang-Noi: or have to get a different type of masters?
Bowjob: whoa. theymos is 21 years old?? WTf
Bowjob: i thought hes an old dude
Bowjob: im just 1 year younger than him lol
Chaang-Noi: one of the reasons why no one expects much of him
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.4874894 = 486.5144 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i think its why the forum staff is so yoing and trollish
kakobrekla: bitcoin is buncha kids with money for sure
Chaang-Noi: i was thinking and a few years tehre are going to be all these millionarie 20 eyar olds
Bowjob: thinking of a black lambo
Chaang-Noi: many will sell out after geting 100% return, like some people did with ltc :)
kakobrekla: with time, institutions will hold most btc
Bowjob: riding this bull to the top
Chaang-Noi: honestly if i get a lot of money i wont really buy anything, i will travel a bit more
Bowjob: when my holdings are worth more than a country's entier gdp, the world is my playground
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48443619 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.48483624 = 484.3514 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: > usagi: The company owns it. Essentially, since I am liable for it, I own it.
kakobrekla: >and I'm sure once you get on track with how we operate you will understand it. Until then, rest assured that everything is okay here.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.8649 = 19.0278 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [-]
mjr_: ok, i have not seen one mention of bitcoin being either traded or used to fund accounts on etoro
mjr_: they have blogged about it a little
mjr_: but there is no mention of them accepting it or allowing you to trade it
mjr_: ok...where is the link where i can see that pair?
mjr_: its not under commodity or currency...did they do a press release or something?
mjr_: well...i am sure they are interested in doing it, but i was hoping for an announcement
mjr_: also...i am not sure how you offer a CFD in the US
gribble: There are currently 2625.7187 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 144414.136288 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.7392 seconds
mjr_: not allowed to do CFD
mjr_: i was wondering what the bitcoin evnironment was like in the philippines
mjr_: they have a huge market for remittances
Diablo-D3: thats going to happen in every city in every country now
Diablo-D3: they burned half of greece down, dude
Diablo-D3: at any rate, I havent seen any news about slovenia
Diablo-D3: but wait until it starts happening in germany
Diablo-D3: and berlin gets burned to the ground
Diablo-D3: then you will understand what I mean by "europe is fucked"
Diablo-D3: germany WILLL do just fine if they exit the EU now
gribble: There are currently 2559.549 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 140775.164133 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
mjr_: germany switches to bitcoin
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01959 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.019599 = 0.784 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01966 = 0.1966 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 239 @ 0.01985 = 4.7442 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.01988 = 0.7952 BTC [+]
mjr_: did not think that was likely
chmod755: iceland should switch to bitcoin
chmod755: it's a small country with many internet users
mjr_: iceland dealt with their credit issues in a great way for their people
mjr_: more people should have followed their example
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: they crashed the banks and press the reset button
mjr_: that is what should happen
mjr_: you lent money to a bad risk
mjr_: that is your fault not mine
mjr_: it is basically predatory lending when you let someone borrow 10x their income and networth
gribble: There are currently 1883.3806 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 103577.890673 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.7350 seconds
gribble: There are currently 1883.3806 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 103577.890673 USD in total. | Data vintage: 71.5866 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00075897 = 11.2707 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 1954.0553 bitcoins offered at or under 56.0 USD, worth 108167.701023 USD in total. | Data vintage: 88.7404 seconds
gribble: There are currently 14347.373 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 839553.401471 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.1760 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 55.66000, Best ask: 55.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 55.66000, 24 hour volume: 102733.91362795, 24 hour low: 47.50002, 24 hour high: 56.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.91918
pgp: and the hill is down again...
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.47606017 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 955.56252 bitcoins offered at or under 57.0 USD, worth 54006.2376327 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
gribble: There are currently 12557.116 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 741836.013873 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.1822 seconds
gribble: There are currently 12071.718 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 677336.979852 USD in total. | Data vintage: 31.4974 seconds
Chaang-Noi: just as many bids over 56 as asks to 60, jesus h christ
gribble: There are currently 12071.718 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 677336.979852 USD in total. | Data vintage: 92.4568 seconds
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 56.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.0772 seconds
gribble: There are currently 369.55094 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 20755.939292 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.8987 seconds
BUGPOWDER: Yah, I think we hit $60 within the hour
gribble: 1 BTC = 56.90000 U.S. dollars = 43.9925777 Euros
BUGPOWDER: "Theymos I am a 21-year-old computer science student from Wisconsin."
Chaang-Noi: that wall was not sold into, he took it down
kakobrekla: what are we just spitting out random numbers now?
Chaang-Noi: bugpowder last i heard he was 20, so it checks out
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 56.75001, Best ask: 56.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12999, Last trade: 56.75001, 24 hour volume: 104957.41050327, 24 hour low: 47.51000, 24 hour high: 57.00000, 24 hour vwap: 51.04947
Chaang-Noi: kakobreka is hashking really 13? i thought that was just a joke
Chaang-Noi: oh lol, i should have known when he called me a scammer for not paying him dividends on my bonds cuz he had already sold them... lolol btcland
mjr_: tradehill has one order to sell at $3000
pgp: this is some crazy shit
Chaang-Noi: well atleast that wall at 60 is gone, a small one at 64
Chaang-Noi: kakobreka .0095 so up esp considering btc is moving uup
gribble: Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 79.4836 seconds
gribble: There are currently 15933.287 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 1064561.16994 USD in total. | Data vintage: 84.4513 seconds
gribble: There are currently 48.927719 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 2985.0757865 USD in total. | Data vintage: 95.8431 seconds
gribble: There are currently 6238.7322 bitcoins offered at or under 65.0 USD, worth 397953.724648 USD in total. | Data vintage: 100.6715 seconds
BUGPOWDER: hmm... maybe it did hit it, I never saw that trade happen though
mod6: yeah it says it hit 62.0
Chaang-Noi: well 54 coins are offered at or under 62
gribble: There are currently 1060.2704 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 64880.7926418 USD in total. | Data vintage: 108.6023 seconds
mjr_: wow $3 cheaper on bitfloor
Chaang-Noi: 2013-03-19 11:02:23 to 2013-03-19 11:12:23: Avg price: 58.566 (56.200 to 62.000) Total volume: 8586.48399, Cumulative cost: 511324.00000 Buy volume: 7933.77667 (473468.31 USD), Sell volume: 652.70731 (37856.53 USD) Ratio: 12.15518 ( 12.51)
mjr_: almost two minutes now
pgp: and now for some reality
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21367 @ 0.0007343 = 15.6898 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4783 @ 0.00073344 = 3.508 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.829 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.828 = 1.656 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8222 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8221 = 8.221 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 4093.7415 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 248124.847411 USD in total. | Data vintage: 92.1101 seconds
gribble: There are currently 106.35268 bitcoins demanded at or over 57.0 USD, worth 6093.23499578 USD in total. | Data vintage: 104.3026 seconds
gribble: There are currently 1398.1248 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 78641.1004811 USD in total. | Data vintage: 109.2912 seconds
gribble: There are currently 3118.6452 bitcoins demanded at or over 55.0 USD, worth 173403.849411 USD in total. | Data vintage: 114.0207 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.56000, Best ask: 57.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 57.61000, 24 hour volume: 122812.31066450, 24 hour low: 47.51000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.26281
mjr_: ;;calc (52.26281-41)/52.26281
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 21 @ 0.2 = 4.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.2309 = 2.309 BTC [+]
benkay: i wake up to this nonsense.
Chaang-Noi: total bid: 7,756,029 USD | total ask: 52,027 BTC | ratio: 149.08 USD/BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.004231 = 0.2116 BTC [-]
benkay: and goodness i see we were trading all the way up to 62
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: benkay yeah, massive walls down in one go, this is a correction to that, we will be up to 65 shortly, make sure your seatbelts are on
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 8 @ 0.2 = 1.6 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.0844 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 14.925743 bitcoins offered at or under 59.0 USD, worth 880.61884113 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds
gribble: There are currently 4151.5081 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 251811.333797 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.3287 seconds
gribble: There are currently 4312.4797 bitcoins demanded at or over 55.0 USD, worth 240297.179135 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.6690 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8647 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.295 BTC [-]
benkay: is there a market cap command?
benkay: i'm more interested in plotting asicminer mktcap over time
gribble: There are currently 38868.333 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2888163.25634 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
gribble: There are currently 42540.219 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 3435013.85974 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.0105 seconds
benkay: thanks unbalanced, i'm more interested in mktcap on a per-asset basis
benkay: has anyone done any work on the performance of bitcoin assets relative to bit coin?
deadweasel: holding BTC is better unless you are extremely plugged into the assets you are buying selling. for the average bitcoiner, anyhow.
jcpham: hooooooooooooooooooooolf
deadweasel: i'm holding some for a long long time. just as an experimento
benkay: deadweasel i have a hunch you're right
benkay: "in god we trust. all others must bring data."
deadweasel: true, I have run no numbers on that. It's my gut feeling.
deadweasel: i'm fairly sure I could make the data say what I want it to say, if I really tried, so I just go with my gut
benkay: i like charting things
benkay: more accurately, charting stuff is a thing that i like to do
benkay: fun_things.append(charting)
benkay: i'm sitting on a train and the coffee place is closed
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [-]
deadweasel: well, grab price history and build a scenario tool and see if you can get historical data on assets and get busy!
benkay: too busy building real thing
benkay: only making charts that i need to make
deadweasel: reminds me, I need to do some work. thx!
benkay: price history for asicminer does not return on time invested have at the moment
gribble: Current Blocks: 226774 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1033 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 7 hours, 8 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6214082.21368 | Estimated Percent Change: 28.18759
pgp: 7.38 minutes avg between blocks...
pgp: lots of hardware came online in the last 9 days...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073866 = 4.2842 BTC [+]
mjr_: that was a fun ride
topace__: soemone traceroute 198.41.28.231 for me ?
jcpham: i lose the route at hop 32... looks like jupiter or uranus
topace__: 6 border1-faste2-0.magma.ca (209.217.64.38) 46.098 ms 24.215 ms 24.056 ms
topace__: 7 border5-faste0-0.magma.ca (209.217.64.42) 25.576 ms 27.031 ms 28.733 ms
topace__: 8 198.32.235.40 (198.32.235.40) 30.663 ms 32.602 ms 33.566 ms
topace__: 9 173-195-50.214.tel-ott.com (173.195.50.214) 42.963 ms 45.431 ms 46.764 ms
topace__: 10 198.41.28.231 (198.41.28.231) 48.645 ms 50.038 ms 51.511 ms
topace__: which it does for me from my office
topace__: but from othe rlocations, its crapping out somewhere as well
topace__: yea thast the IP it stops on for me from one of my other servers
topace__: how do you tell customers "the server is fine, its just the routing thats fucked up"
topace__: when most customers say "whats a server? whats a route?"
TomServo: topace__: You tell them to contact their ISP and provide them the last hop.
deadweasel: if my experience with bitcoin business is of any value, you should ignore the customer until the issue is fixed
pigeons: i hear it all the time one way or another as "it works on my box" usually from the developer
deadweasel: then possibly continue ignoring after said fixing
topace__: oh mmm 38.122.68.178 is my data center...
topace__: wonder why traceroute doesnt go through that when i traceroute from my office
topace__: must be coming in on a different network
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 55.01000, Best ask: 55.44999, Bid-ask spread: 0.43999, Last trade: 55.00000, 24 hour volume: 131954.29179881, 24 hour low: 47.52100, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.64803
topace__: this might be 100% unrelated to the new switch i just installed yesterday, or it might be 100% because of the new switch
topace__: but if the switch went in yesterday, why only fail this morning
deadweasel: is it a managed switch? did you configure it?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 0.8645 = 13.832 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22127 @ 0.00073344 = 16.2288 BTC [-]
topace__: okay now traceroute to 198.41.28.228
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8644 = 1.7288 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 56.64000, Best ask: 56.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 56.98000, 24 hour volume: 134791.46988100, 24 hour low: 47.54000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.73807
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.53010000 / 0.53168333 / 0.53200000 (6 shares, 3.19010000 BTC), 7D: 0.50030000 / 0.52350856 / 0.59999900 (1197 shares, 626.63975002 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.59492594 / 0.75100000 (5740 shares, 3414.87486892 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00073744 = 6.8951 BTC [+]
assbot: Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0051 BTC [+]
assbot: Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.0018 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9537 @ 0.00073344 = 6.9948 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4663 @ 0.00073285 = 3.4173 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.515 = 1.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00901 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.009 = 0.045 BTC [-]
smickles: "< mircea_popescu> miscounted them digits" << I made it easier to read $depth <asset> now
mpexbot: jurov: Bids: ['2462 @ 0.00073285', '41300 @ 0.00071998', '1590 @ 0.00071886', '32459 @ 0.00068249', '25000 @ 0.000675']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['5074 @ 0.00073744', '5400 @ 0.00074837', '3950 @ 0.00075897', '13911 @ 0.00076091', '29878 @ 0.00076717']
jurov: $markov is it fixed
mpexbot: jurov: (markov [<channel>] [word1 [word2]]) -- Returns a randomly-generated Markov Chain generated sentence from the data kept on <channel> (which is only necessary if not sent in the channel itself). If word1 and word2 are specified, they will be used to start the Markov chain.
jurov: $markov "is it fixed"
mpexbot: jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2462 @ 0.00073285 = 1.8043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00071998 = 29.7352 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550N] 6 @ 0.34032895 = 2.042 BTC
mpexbot: kakobrekla: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
mpexbot: kakobrekla: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
jurov: btw, it should consider first parameter a chan only if it begins with #
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 55.90000, Best ask: 56.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 56.00000, 24 hour volume: 142528.78744713, 24 hour low: 47.55000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.90602
assbot: Your actions are useless.
assbot: I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
assbot: I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
assbot: Last trade for PPT.E on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [-]
assbot: Last trade for PPT.A on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [+]
assbot: Last trade for PPT.B on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [+]
jurov: maybe it fails when no recent data
jurov: anyway, better error messages would be helpful
assbot: How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
jurov: so when i name the exchange right, assbot is polite?
pigeons: !last GLBSE SATOSHISDAEMON.horse
assbot: Have you got any tobacco?
jurov: !ticker btct bitvps
assbot: [BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0038 / 0.00473 / 0.00688 (350 shares, 1.7 BTC), 30D: 0.00341 / 0.00438 / 0.00689 (1105 shares, 4.8 BTC)
jurov: dunno where it ended
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00672 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.00671 = 0.0201 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 37 @ 0.006 = 0.222 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0059 = 0.59 BTC [-]
bungeegum: i'll be back later. thank you kakobrekla for the info :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 201 @ 0.00585 = 1.1759 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.67786, Best ask: 57.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21214, Last trade: 57.67785, 24 hour volume: 143463.25501478, 24 hour low: 47.60000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.94004
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.67786, Best ask: 57.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21214, Last trade: 57.67785, 24 hour volume: 143463.25501478, 24 hour low: 47.60000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.94004
kakobrekla: someone should just send him to s.dice
jurov: kakobrekla, how do you feel about a bet "At least one of bitcointalk treasurers will get scammer tag by...dunno when "
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1590 @ 0.00071886 = 1.143 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: i feel good about it but i dont approve that stuff
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.985 = 3.97 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 2 = 12 BTC [+]
gribble: Current Blocks: 226787 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1020 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 5 hours, 32 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6217631.41098 | Estimated Percent Change: 28.26081