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Chaang-Noi: 49.64 )
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 50
kakobrekla: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
gribble: There are currently 15706.82 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 784550.15041 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.4370 seconds
Chaang-Noi: if we eat 50 no stopping us until 80
deadweasel: kakobrekla, that's a hell of a wall at 50
kakobrekla: well dude's got balls
Chaang-Noi: 49.7
deadweasel: "/msg Chaang-Noi ;;ticker"
kakobrekla: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 48.99239 U.S. dollars = 37.7852769 Euros
Uglux: what was the ATH exactly?
deadweasel: jk Chaang-Noi
Chaang-Noi: ;D im happy at ATH'z
Chaang-Noi: ATH is all time high
Uglux: yeaaa, the number plz
Chaang-Noi: 49.7
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla who actually can take out 3/4 mn usd fgrom mthox ?
mircea_popescu: it would take what, 2-3 years to make it through ?
deadweasel: ;;yeaaa, the number plz
gribble: Error: "yeaaa," is not a valid command.
Bugpowder: they raised my limit to 50k overnight
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 50k < 783k
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu i dunno, but it has to be done
Chaang-Noi: total bid: 8,389,663 USD | total ask: 82,782 BTC | ratio: 101.35 USD/BTC
Bugpowder: Trusted accounts can withdraw 50k at a time, 500k / mo
pizzaman1337: ;;ticker --last
gribble: 48.99239
Chaang-Noi: crash, back down to 32 :)
mircea_popescu: its incredible just how inadequate fiat is when one looks from the vantage of btc
Bugpowder: correction $100k max wire size per day with trusted
deadweasel: you should tell sgornick that mp
deadweasel: he would smile
mircea_popescu: hehe
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder ya but how long it actually takes is the q.
Chaang-Noi: ;;goxlag
gribble: 37.90441 seconds
Bugpowder: Sub 10k wires have been arriving in 48 hours for me
Bugpowder: 100k might take 2 weeks
Bugpowder: or 2 days
Chaang-Noi: you buying at these prices bug?
Bugpowder: no
Bugpowder: I have some coins there
Bugpowder: but I just want to get my Tesla
Bugpowder: :)
Chaang-Noi: nice
Bugpowder: I mean my fiat there
mircea_popescu: haha he's buying a new juicer
Bugpowder: I think I'm holding the rest
Bugpowder: for a while
Bugpowder: No matter what happens now, I made at least 18x.
Bugpowder: Hopefully coins continue to rise
mircea_popescu: 18x is a good make to make.
deadweasel: well i hope you started with a lot!
Bugpowder: Every 5-10 years there is an investment that is just so fucking obvious
Bugpowder: You gotta pull the trigger
Bugpowder: Bitcoins at $2, after being at $31, was a great example
toffoo: things always look obvious in retrospect ;)
Bugpowder: It seemed obvious then
Bugpowder: from a risk reward
Bugpowder: not obvious that it was going to 50
mircea_popescu: it did seem obvious.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.000697 = 4.9487 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: but an EV analysis I drew up showed something like 5-10x EV
Bugpowder: which was clearly too conservative
Bugpowder: Sorta like F at $1.
Bugpowder: It wasn't obvious it would bounce to $15
toffoo: i wouldn't call that one obvious ...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.0018 = 9 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: but EV was positive
deadweasel: F?
mod6: ford
Bugpowder: Ford
deadweasel: da
toffoo: it's two competitors were bankrupt and under the government's control
Bugpowder: I did not pull the trigger there.
toffoo: maybe you know more about the car business than the average guy
pigeons: need a fan club passthrough for this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147552.msg1566741#msg1566741
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)
Bugpowder: Friend of dad who had lost most of his money in the market did an EV analysis... Went all in with the rest of life savings
Bugpowder: made it all back.
mircea_popescu: o srsly ?
Bugpowder: hail mary play
mircea_popescu: cool!
Bugpowder: on F
Bugpowder: He sold at 4.
Bugpowder: heheheh
Bugpowder: oops
mircea_popescu: o lol
mircea_popescu: pigeons he has the right idea, borrow the bubble.
Bugpowder: dinnertime
deadweasel: 4x
deadweasel: vs 18x
deadweasel: enjoy you dinner!
deadweasel: *r
Bugpowder: deadweasel: max(18x, 18x+n*x) where n =[0-1000]
mircea_popescu: venturebeat : embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back. matonis : Tradehill Launches As Bitcoin Exchange For Businesses And Accredited Investors
mircea_popescu: i guess optimism is a wonderful gift.
deadweasel: right, his was free
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1 @ 0.12177158 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: mp in a bull market it is
kakobrekla: no no Chaang-Noi
kakobrekla: its 'irrational'.
Chaang-Noi: some times better to be lucky/crazy than smart
mod6: Krugman and Bernanke have phd's lol
pigeons: wtf is a curation consultant
Chaang-Noi: no idea
jurov: ;;bc,convert, eur
gribble: Error: "bc,convert," is not a valid command.
jurov: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 49.49002 U.S. dollars = 38.169073 Euros
pigeons: smells like something a ycombinator company would have
smickles: did we pop 50 or something?
smickles: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.26107, Best ask: 49.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.22893, Last trade: 49.26107, 24 hour volume: 45708.72214983, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.26314
jurov: ;;asks 50
gribble: There are currently 15875.704 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 792726.780924 USD in total. | Data vintage: 117.4680 seconds
deadweasel: bugpowder: http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP206621f5c2f1db8535a3000038g4ed53b9h0cdgd?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=48&w=367.&h=57.
smickles: $vwap ^oix
mpexbot: smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 40.34905862 high: 57.74756063 low: 37.79100251 volume: 35646 btc: 4872.55462737 30 day: no data
Chaang-Noi: less than a million of soon to be fiat to go
jurov: $markov
mpexbot: but... i saw porn on there :(
jurov: you bet
smickles: $markov jurov
mpexbot: jurov because a. its much easier to parse and b. because the bot
jurov: $markov smickles
mpexbot: smickles that film... you should totally watch it.
jurov: $markov s.dice
mpexbot: jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
smickles: it'll get better with time
pigeons: $markov zhoutong
mpexbot: pigeons: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
jurov: i hope for succinct prediction :/
Bugpowder: deadweasel: ok.....
smickles: $markov [MPEX:S.DICE]
mpexbot: smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
deadweasel: Bugpowder: yeah, no I have no idea at all
jurov: $markov eskimobob
mpexbot: jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
smickles: $markov [MPEX] [S.DICE]
mpexbot: smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
smickles: bah
jurov: i broke it
smickles: $markov i hope
mpexbot: smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
smickles: D:
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1 @ 0.06562237 BTC [-]
smickles: ;;calc 51 - 1.065
gribble: 49.935
smickles: er, wrong one
smickles: ;;calc 51/(1-.065)
gribble: 54.5454545455
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.49999, Best ask: 49.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 49.49999, 24 hour volume: 47889.07477187, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.32588
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 6247626.80304 based on data since last change | 6547204.92104 based on data for last three days
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 1 @ 0.08408666 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00431 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0043 = 0.086 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00426 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.0041 = 0.0369 BTC [-]
smickles: ;;calc 49/(1/.084)
gribble: 4.116
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.334 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3337 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3332 BTC [-]
smickles: ;;calc 49/(1-.084)
gribble: 53.4934497817
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.000697 = 3.3456 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.50001, Best ask: 49.50002, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 49.50002, 24 hour volume: 48101.89622656, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.33148
smickles: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 47.96
smickles: ;;calc [bc,24hprc]/[ticker --last]
gribble: 0.968888693154
smickles: at what point do we start seeing that 'buy/sell out mpoebot' trader
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13443 @ 0.000697 = 9.3698 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/steganography-or-the-simple-yet-strong-brain-wallet/
smickles: mircea_popescu: dammit man, stop publishing my ideas
smickles: ;)
mircea_popescu: hahaha
mircea_popescu: strawberries smickles
smickles: mircea_popescu: this is all getting into indiana jones territory. soon enough you'll have to be at 'the spot where the sun is at such an angel in sky on this day of the year and casts a shadow to your feet. turn left, take a pic of the mountian and pump that pic into the script where you enter "david duchovny" 6 times'
mircea_popescu: absolutely.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is - among other things - bringing pirate maps back
mircea_popescu: i loved those when i was 12
kakobrekla: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
kakobrekla: plot gets thinner
mod6: (16:00) < mircea_popescu> bitcoin is - among other things - bringing pirate maps back << YES!!
mircea_popescu: :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10110 @ 0.00071781 = 7.2571 BTC [+]
pigeons: https://sites.google.com/site/buriedkeys/
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.71230, Best ask: 49.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08770, Last trade: 49.71230, 24 hour volume: 49314.22508067, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.80000, 24 hour vwap: 48.37025
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 49.99
gribble: There are currently 1456.6221 bitcoins offered at or under 49.99 USD, worth 72734.4782962 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.4732 seconds
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154518.msg1638361#msg1638361
mircea_popescu: ouch
mod6: that's neat pigeons
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
smickles: ;;asks 49.99
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.71230, Best ask: 49.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08770, Last trade: 49.71230, 24 hour volume: 49314.22508067, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.80000, 24 hour vwap: 48.37025
gribble: There are currently 384.75233 bitcoins offered at or under 49.99 USD, worth 19225.9672632 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.3233 seconds
smickles: ;;goxlag
gribble: 5.363153 seconds
ThickAsThieves: 49.95
ThickAsThieves: .97
ThickAsThieves: .98
ThickAsThieves: .99
ThickAsThieves: 50
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
ThickAsThieves: saw 50 on coinlab ticker
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
dub: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
mircea_popescu: fancy wallstreet prices
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
kakobrekla: :D
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 1 @ 0.10841351 BTC [-]
dub: says 50 on goxlive
smickles: ;;calc 1/(1-.1084)
gribble: 1.12157918349
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: 46.263792 seconds
smickles: ;;calc 47/(1-.1084)
gribble: 52.714221624
deadweasel: was the solution for sdice to split off transactions into entire blocks?
deadweasel: that's what it looks like on https://blockchain.info/
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1 @ 0.13772223 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496
ThickAsThieves: 50.01
ThickAsThieves: :)
deadweasel: it almost feels like classical conditioning
deadweasel: these waves in prices
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.0007453 = 3.6967 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Poppin bottles!
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496
Bugpowder: wat?
Bugpowder: I'm seeing 50.05
pizzaman1337: market manipulation!
kakobrekla: gribble iz slow
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 8 @ 0.0441449 = 0.3532 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: I assume there is some panic buying goxlag
Bugpowder: bitcoin charts has it at 50.20
pizzaman1337: ;;goxlag
gribble: 44.343507 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8402 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8401 = 3.3604 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.84 = 5.04 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496
Bugpowder: heh... that is STALE
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 250 @ 0.10675 = 26.6875 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 750 @ 0.10948345 = 82.1126 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 250 @ 0.10948345 = 27.3709 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;goxlag
gribble: 0.360978 seconds
kakobrekla: ;;cakc ;;goxlag/3600
gribble: Error: "cakc" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: for more convinient format
kakobrekla: cakc right.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 500 @ 0.12927863 = 64.6393 BTC [+]
Bowjob: meow
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.00001, Best ask: 51.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 51.00000, 24 hour volume: 59546.54465887, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 51.01000, 24 hour vwap: 48.67395
Bowjob: *yawn
pizzaman1337: $51? zomg
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 4 @ 0.23958397 = 0.9583 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol!
mircea_popescu: this is le excitingque
Bowjob: well, cyprus
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: in anything, TA is bullshit
deadweasel: mp go pay bitbet nao~!
deadweasel: it almost feels like classical conditioning0
mircea_popescu: lol
deadweasel: oops jk
kakobrekla: i have been saying this for a while now, the more world goes to shit, the better for btc
Bowjob: fundamentals beats all!
Bowjob: we are the new wealthy elite
Bowjob: im just gonna sit this out, waiting for my avalon
Bowjob: we just rboke 52
mircea_popescu: nowai ?!
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 52.00000, Best ask: 52.12000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 52.00000, 24 hour volume: 61002.40967740, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.12000, 24 hour vwap: 48.74625
mircea_popescu: this is going to 100
kakobrekla: ;;goxlag
gribble: 2.173409 seconds
kakobrekla: WE NEED MOAR LAG!!!
Bowjob: just watch the price here
Bowjob: in real time
Bowjob: http://coinlab.com/
deadweasel: lol
Bowjob: the orderbook is skewed
Bowjob: not enough coins
ThickAsThieves: so the big 50 wall was a fake
Bowjob: was it fake or eaten
ThickAsThieves: dunno
kakobrekla: it was take out in 2 steps today
kakobrekla: taken
mircea_popescu: part eaten taken off
deadweasel: you shouldn't eat so much, kakobrekla
deadweasel: on nm
Bowjob: some people seem to be dumping
Bowjob: lol
kakobrekla: deadweasel im full :p
deadweasel: of bitcoins
ThickAsThieves: wow
Bowjob: i welcome you, my cyprus and spanish friends
deadweasel: worth 50+
Bugpowder: 52
deadweasel: i'm 1/4 spanish
deadweasel: 52.12! no way this holds
kakobrekla: meanwhile in antartica: ltc down to 0.01
deadweasel: panic selling t-minus some seconds
Bugpowder: nah dude
Bugpowder: this is moving up
Bowjob: fuck this shit im cancelling LTC
benkay: oh bowjob
benkay: trading your emotions
benkay: that's cute
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 52.10000, Best ask: 52.11999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 52.10000, 24 hour volume: 61104.42476205, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.12000, 24 hour vwap: 48.75342
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136365020251.png
mircea_popescu: for the win
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00075127 = 8.4894 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: ;;bids 50
gribble: There are currently 6286.4465 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 315601.470911 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.1438 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1487 @ 0.00076717 = 1.1408 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: ;;bids 49
gribble: There are currently 7952.6316 bitcoins demanded at or over 49.0 USD, worth 397741.218334 USD in total. | Data vintage: 53.4991 seconds
Bugpowder: not a bad wall
deadweasel: ;;ticker --last
gribble: 52.10000
benkay: ;;goxlag
gribble: 54.463538 seconds
benkay: ho ho ho
mod6: merry lag time
mircea_popescu: “We want to be the grownups in the Bitcoin space,” said chief operating officer Ryan Singer in an interview.
mircea_popescu: Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/18/embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back/#kOC57bZHlphBM98A.99
mircea_popescu: ahaha fuckwits.
benkay: californians, man
benkay: second only to new yorkers in arrogant fuckery
mircea_popescu: fucking tradition in bitcoin, retards posturing as ":the adults:"
mircea_popescu: bitcoinica consultancy ? check.
mircea_popescu: coinfail ? check
mircea_popescu: tradehill ? check.
mircea_popescu: next kludge is going to come back from the dead wanting to be the adult in bitcoin or some shit.
mircea_popescu: maybe bruce wagner too.
benkay: it's how you raise capital
Bowjob: yawn
benkay: pretend to be awesome
benkay: hustle ferociously
benkay: disregard the truth
kakobrekla: im not concered
kakobrekla: they are in merrica
kakobrekla: they will get selffucked
Bugpowder: what the fuck is up with their photos
Bugpowder: so unprofessional
benkay: i don't understand the fixation with exchanges.
Bugpowder: I see they swapped out the original
Bugpowder: which was them looking hammered, holding a drink
mircea_popescu: benkay it's like the notion that bitcoi nwill grow through retail adoption
mircea_popescu: people focus on what they can understand easily.
benkay: derp harder, oh my countrymen
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder shh, adult photos!
Bugpowder: like WTF
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.73600, Best ask: 51.93701, Bid-ask spread: 0.20101, Last trade: 51.73801, 24 hour volume: 64139.42338876, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 48.93122
Bugpowder: wear a fucking suit for your fucking presentation to the world dipshits
mircea_popescu: 53 about to gho
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder the only thing the rental store had was a pink tux and a strapless sperm-white gucci dress
mircea_popescu: well... guggi.
parseval: huh.. http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html
parseval: FinCEN's statement on applicability of regulations to virtual currencies, posted today
kakobrekla: anyone singed up for that prime idiotism?
benkay: where did you find that, parseval?
mircea_popescu: parseval o hery, big deal.
parseval: It was on reddit
mircea_popescu: This guidance refers to the participants in generic virtual currency arrangements, using the terms "user," "exchanger," and "administrator."6 A user is a person that obtains virtual currency to purchase goods or services.7 An exchanger is a person engaged as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for real currency, funds, or other virtual currency. An administrator is a person engaged as a business in issuing (
mircea_popescu: putting into circulation) a virtual currency, and who has the authority to redeem (to withdraw from circulation) such virtual currency.
mircea_popescu: they blew it.
mircea_popescu: mpex still extempt.
parseval: See part C
parseval: A final type of convertible virtual currency activity involves a de-centralized convertible virtual currency (1) that has no central repository and no single administrator, and (2) that persons may obtain by their own computing or manufacturing effort.
parseval: A person that creates units of this convertible virtual currency and uses it to purchase real or virtual goods and services is a user of the convertible virtual currency and not subject to regulation as a money transmitter. By contrast, a person that creates units of convertible virtual currency and sells those units to another person for real currency or its equivalent is engaged in transmission to another location
parseval: and is a money transmitter. In addition, a person is an exchanger and a money transmitter if the person accepts such de-centralized convertible virtual currency from one person and transmits it to another person as part of the acceptance and transfer of currency, funds, or other value that substitutes for currency.
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: to be an administrator it substantively requires you have the ability to withdraw units.
parseval: Looks like MtGox is getting out just in time
mircea_popescu: to be a transmitter it substantively requires you blabla as part of acceptance/transfer of funds/currency/etc.
mircea_popescu: but yes.
Bowjob: we can reach $58 if
mircea_popescu: pretty much all exchanges have an issue nao.
Bowjob: theres $500k
Bowjob: damn
Bowjob: hahaha'
parseval: You have to follow the BSA as a transmitter
parseval: Which means all sorts of recordkeeping and reporting regulations
smickles: looks like they are trying to say anyone who buys or sells bitcoin for fiat is a money transmitter
smickles: so all users of any exchange
mircea_popescu: A person must exchange the currency of two or more countries to be considered a dealer in foreign exchange.19 Virtual currency does not meet the criteria to be considered "currency" under the BSA, because it is not legal tender. Therefore, a person who accepts real currency in exchange for virtual currency, or vice versa, is not a dealer in foreign exchange under FinCEN's regulations.
mircea_popescu: this is pretty good.
parseval: Oh, nice, I missed that part
smickles: not foex, but money tx
mircea_popescu: pretty good point
mircea_popescu: so in the end, fincen guidance supports at least in part http://trilema.com/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/
mircea_popescu: kinda nice to have them come out with "it is not a currency" statement.
BitHub: they class it the same as wow gold here
smickles: BitHub: if you buy wow gold you're a money transmitter?
smickles: i dun think so
smickles: that doc says if you buy a decentralized virtual currency, you are a money transmitter
smickles: which has a whole shebang of regulation
parseval: I think it's just if you sell it
smickles: i think it said both
Bowjob: im just sitting here fapping getting rich
Bowjob: >_>
Bugpowder: WOW
Bowjob: i ougtta work or something. this feels cheating
Bowjob: lol
deadweasel: coinbase just took my txn. given their history that doesn't mean anything.
Bugpowder: That FinCEN thing looks interesting
Bowjob: work at like mcdicks. make more money than the manager
Bowjob: haha
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder indeed.
Bugpowder: I will get feedback from wifey
Bugpowder: and from my other lawyer friends
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder cool
smickles: i might actually have to pay federal income tax this coming year if this shit keeps up
deadweasel: lol smickles
deadweasel: fuck those guys, this is bartering
BitHub: cant you just hide your coins and tell them you got hacked?
mircea_popescu: lmao
smickles: deadweasel: not when you trade it for usd
benkay: why do that?
benkay: just buy *things*
deadweasel: fuck usd
BitHub: cash out in another country
mircea_popescu: why are you folks so hell bent on not paying tax ?
smickles: it's all part of the plan
parseval: Or buy USD on an auction house
parseval: Have them mail it to you
smickles: mircea_popescu: i'm not, it's just that i'm poor and haven't done it yet
parseval: I mean actual cash
mircea_popescu: smickles not you, them
smickles: also, they gave me ~4kusd for my kid this year
deadweasel: because 51%+ goes to something worse than churches
BitHub: right mircea because MPEX is paying coporate tax right?
deadweasel: it goes to war.
deadweasel: so fuck em
mircea_popescu: BitHub on fiat revenue, sure.
BitHub: right so if everything is in btc why pay tax?
BitHub: i got hacked and all my coins are gone
mircea_popescu: lol ok.
smickles: if stuff like the fincen doc keep popping up, bitcoin 'revenue' isn't revenue
mircea_popescu: smickles it quite clearly says it isn't actually
Bugpowder: bartering tokens are still taxable
Bugpowder: get that guide
mircea_popescu: of course, it wouldn't be the first time this here bird is considered a duck for the purpose of X law and a goose for the purpose of y law
mircea_popescu: even if it can't be both.
BitHub: isn't your juridiction cyberspace?
mircea_popescu: BitHub practically or theoretically ?
smickles: Bugpowder: but it's taxed in a whole different way if you barter with it
BitHub: prac
mircea_popescu: practically it's romania.
smickles: that's right, mircea_popescu is an umpyr
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
Bowjob: we're crashing!
mircea_popescu: haha flash crash
Bowjob: ;;ticker
mod6: 1M btc block: https://blockchain.info/block-index/361547/000000000000036a89470665c290a5aeead5809c2dc5fcb58678598e64211bc0
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
Bugpowder: wall at 54
Bugpowder: ;;asks 54
gribble: There are currently 14319.578 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 768614.569271 USD in total. | Data vintage: 150.8870 seconds
Bugpowder: -25 BTC transaction fee?
mircea_popescu: Data vintage: 150.8870 seconds lmao
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder hm ?
mod6: Bugpowder: yeah thought that was weird
BitHub: When it comes to Tax why give money to a useless middleman that does a pretty terrible job at making the best of your money to make a better country, actually just waste alot, there's no point paying them when i can just hire people to make the country a lil bit less shit.
BitHub: i like to build parks, and roads, and speedhumps
mircea_popescu: wtf is that block
mircea_popescu: 1mn btc transacted ?!
deadweasel: i just cashed out, that was me....
Bugpowder: lets look deeepr
deadweasel: :)
benkay: ;;goxlag
gribble: 95.434838 seconds
deadweasel: ha
benkay: SMOKES.
mod6: something like deepbit payments or something
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
Bowjob: ;;goxlag
gribble: 44.277889 seconds
Bowjob: damn
Bugpowder: Looks like 5000 BTC getting bounced from addresss to address with 2BTC missing each time
deadweasel: gox just took a gigantic crap
Bugpowder: ough
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder check out the 6k ish txns
Bugpowder: 50 wall gone
mircea_popescu: addy 1 sends to 2 sends to 3 sends to 4
mircea_popescu: same btc
mircea_popescu: yea
mod6: yeah something like 6500 upto 7600
Bugpowder: OH YES!
Bugpowder: THat was the wall at 54
Bugpowder: he sold to market
Bugpowder: 54 wall is gone now. Up we go
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600
Bugpowder: stale
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
gribble: 19.91481 seconds
Bugpowder: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
Bugpowder: that seems to be up to date
deadweasel: thx, wow
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.20001, Best ask: 50.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 50.20001, 24 hour volume: 70775.46761279, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.16174
Bowjob: $50 is the new paradigm
Bugpowder: maybe its not stale... looks right
Bugpowder: $50 is the OLD paradigm
deadweasel: Bugpowder is right
Bugpowder: How many russians are thinking of putting 1% in bitcoin.
Bowjob: $50 is the new 5
deadweasel: the number in here listening Bugpowder
deadweasel: ssssshhhhhh, were hunting bitcoin... wascally bitcoin
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.53002, Best ask: 50.82998, Bid-ask spread: 0.29996, Last trade: 50.52002, 24 hour volume: 70828.14155647, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.16342
Bowjob: ;;goxlag
gribble: 27.051584 seconds
benkay: are there any good charts of goxlag?
pizzaman1337: charts of goxlag? hahh
kakobrekla: it should be done
pizzaman1337: it could be used as an indicator
kakobrekla: yea
benkay: of transient value
benkay: given recent biz moves
pgp: tradehill looks like their down - soiled themselves already...
mircea_popescu: lmao pgp
mircea_popescu: the adults has left the playground ?
pgp: lol
pgp: only adults have crossed order books...
pgp: at least that never happens on gox... lol
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.79898, Best ask: 50.79899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 50.79898, 24 hour volume: 71294.17494196, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.17302
benkay: ;;goxlag
gribble: 12.907513 seconds
benkay: is it unreasonable to ask for goxlag in the ticker?
pgp: how it it that bitcoinity is updating and gox's US "Partner" coinlab isn't...
smickles: < benkay> is it unreasonable to ask for goxlag in the ticker? << nanotube
pgp: betcha that bitcoinity could do some sort of gox lag chart...
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.79898, Best ask: 50.79899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 50.79898, 24 hour volume: 71294.17494196, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.17302
Bugpowder: ywan
Bugpowder: back 2 work
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: 0.430566 seconds
Bowjob: not bad
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 50.79980, Best ask: 50.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05020, Last trade: 50.85000, 24 hour volume: 71804.32426947, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.19010
Bowjob: yep. "new paradigm"
gigatube: boring
gigatube: 99$ or gtfo
asciilifeform: oldie but goodie re: BTC exchanges: http://tinyurl.com/5t4xqq4
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was discussed here just a day or two ago
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: damn. got a log?
mircea_popescu: ya 1 sec
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/v3JxJqy5 aka nothing
mircea_popescu: i guess "discussed" was a misnomer.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009998 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not much of a refutation now, was it?
mircea_popescu: not something that can in principle be refuted, is it ?
BitHub: not so sexy now is it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not so sure about that. it might be possible to measure traffic to, say, mtgox, indirectly (without being in control of mtgox)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.84 = 2.52 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: say, by measuring ping time
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can measure (a good portion of) mpex's inbound btc, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: does it help you ?
asciilifeform: and see exactly how it correlates with price moves
mircea_popescu: this is an open problem generally, there's even a serious bounty out for a certain formulation of it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that wouldn't do the trick, necessarily. presumably they have plenty of BTC in house to absorb the "noise"
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/ (s.dice version)
mircea_popescu: there's like 5k bucks waiting to be won by some clever chap there
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: I might take you up on that challenge.
BitHub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufXdcKWrmSM
BitHub: Asset Protection, Privacy and Bitcoin for Solo Entrepreneurs Part 1/8
kakobrekla: what bullshit is this
kakobrekla: "you can become a 'pt'"
dub: one does not simply walk into passthrough
kakobrekla: - perpetual thinker, - permanent tourist, - possibility thinker - privacy techincian, - pirate pass through
dub: proffessional thetan?
mircea_popescu: hahaha wait. tradehill is back ON THE MPEX MODEL ?
pgp: thetan - lol!
mircea_popescu: lmao
kakobrekla: oh shut up
mircea_popescu: Every client will receive a $75 credit to test trading and can activate an account with a deposit of at least $10,000, 200 Bitcoins, or $5,000 in Mt. Gox codes.
mircea_popescu: Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/18/embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back/#kOC57bZHlphBM98A.99
mircea_popescu: need at least 10k to play.
kakobrekla: lol
kakobrekla: i give 2.5 btc for 50btc account
pgp: 5k really...
kakobrekla: which is like
kakobrekla: twice dat.
mircea_popescu: funny shit what these adults are up to over there.
kakobrekla: give us a million and you get free cookie
pgp: I'm embarassed for them...
kakobrekla: sales pitch.
pgp: cleaned out their book , I see... My, my, what DEEP pool of liquidity they have...
kakobrekla: from the comments;
kakobrekla: Ryan Singer > Kurt Durjan • 9 hours ago −
kakobrekla: ↓
kakobrekla: Hi Kurt,
kakobrekla: Please email us at claim@tradehill.com and I will put you in touch with the person doing payouts for the old company
kakobrekla: ---
kakobrekla: rofl.
pgp: yikes... crossed order book is back!
pgp: what a joke...
pgp: are those sell orders @ 50 supposed to be AON orders or something - still doesn't make sense...
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla lol win
mircea_popescu: "the person doing payouts for the old company"
mircea_popescu: which isn't the dorks in the pic nor anything named tradehill
kakobrekla: the problem is to an outsider
mircea_popescu: fuck it, i'm blogging this
kakobrekla: this is all nice and ok
mircea_popescu: yeah.
kakobrekla: we need some press site with some powah
pgp: book finally uncrossed... more lag than gox?
kakobrekla: $coinlablag
kakobrekla: or sumtn
pgp: awesome! $1.50 spread
pgp: oops book gone again
kakobrekla: thes end of the world once per week on these exchanges
kakobrekla: theres*
jborkl: mpex.co is down
smickles: oh?
kakobrekla: is not
pgp: indeed it is...
smickles: sweet
smickles: :D
smickles: HAVOC!
kakobrekla: opens for me?
pgp: coinbr seems fine
pgp: but not http://mpex.coinbr.com/ or http://mpex.co/
smickles: yeah, i'm not seeing any issue
smickles: $depth
mpexbot: smickles: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WUXa2LWs
smickles: and mpex proper is still there
pgp: no i can sleep
pgp: now
smickles: pgp: if you're still having issues with the websites, use assbot or mpexbot
pgp: not a problem for me right now, just noting that website it inaccessible...
jborkl: they are both down,404.doesnt matter to me but just to let you know
smickles: weird, they are both up for me
smickles: jborkl: where abouts are you
smickles: i'm in SW 'merica
jborkl: knowmultiple ip,same 404 errors on al
jborkl: all
pgp: im in nyc
jborkl: alalltexas
jborkl: damn phone
smickles: ahh, mpex.coinbr.com 404 now
smickles: mpexbot should work even if mpex.co is down
smickles: the same with assbot iirc
smickles: mircea_popescu: are you seeing this?
Bugpowder: yah its down
mircea_popescu: i am
mircea_popescu: $vwap
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Uq6Ck9w2
mircea_popescu: aha.
mircea_popescu: mpex.co isn't down ftr.
smickles: woah,
smickles: mpexbot is getting a lot of network.in
mircea_popescu: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mpex.co
mircea_popescu: also
mircea_popescu: i wonder if this is the early phase lessee here
mircea_popescu: Load Averages 0.07 0.08 0.08 on the proxies.
mircea_popescu: 8 - 9 requests/sec. really niot seeing an issue atm
error4733: down for me
midnightmagic: down for me also. :-/
smickles: mpexbot's load average is up to 0.08
smickles: highest it's ever been
mircea_popescu: well folks, some tracerts might be useful
pgp: 48 min since last block mined
mircea_popescu: 174.127.72.233/mpex/ << direct addressing also if it's a local dns issue/poisoning
error4733: FORK ? #troll
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: traceroute ends at 173.192.118.141 ( po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com )
mircea_popescu: also,
mircea_popescu: $proxies
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com", "http://mpex6.coinbr.com"]
mircea_popescu: mpex.ws mpex.bz same story ?
pgp: mp - that doesn't work either
midnightmagic: hrm..
error4733: no1
kakobrekla: .bz works
vampireb: !ticker mpex s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6227 shares, 31.76 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514093 / 0.00599987 (75748 shares, 389.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609733 / 0.0069 (2299780 shares, 14,022.52 BTC)
error4733: mmh not for me, so ? DNS ?
vampireb: ;;ticker
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic that's normal, it's the top level router of the dc
pgp: proxies don't seem to work
Bugpowder: direct address dont work
mircea_popescu: pgp you actually can't connect to what srsly ?!
Bugpowder: from DC
midnightmagic: mpex.ws doesn't resolve. same with mpex.bz, and.. hrm.. 216.182.224.87 (216.182.224.87) for the coinbr proxies.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: It's not normal for a traceroute to fail to traverse..
pgp: just sayin' - can't get to website... trying to offer datapoint from nyc area...
mircea_popescu: to fail to traverse no
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Are you getting bent over by someone..?
mircea_popescu: possibly tho it'd be in a very weird way
kakobrekla: .bz and .co works here
kakobrekla: the rest is dead
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: My traceroute is from northern california..
mircea_popescu: http://who.is/whois/mpex.co sees it for instance
mircea_popescu: downforeverone also sees it
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: That might just be cached. (the whois part)
mircea_popescu: maybe one of the letter dns servers got pouisoned ?
mircea_popescu: Overview for mpex.co
mircea_popescu: Updated: 1 second ago
Bugpowder: http://pastebin.com/DxCMxhDw
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Is this 174.127.72.233 mpex.co?
mircea_popescu: yea
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Do you have access to a looking glass?
Bugpowder: dies here : po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com (173.192.118.141) 131.070 ms
smickles: i've got a server in california
smickles: i'll tr from there
mircea_popescu: hm
Bugpowder: DOJ cut the US cables to MPEX
Bugpowder: in wake of FinCEN guidance
mircea_popescu: lol
midnightmagic: smickles: Does your upstream give you bgp looking glass access?
Bugpowder: Actually, the DC Level 3 ip tried for 50 secondes then sent it thru Dallas, where it also failed.
midnightmagic: it would certainly be interesting if it were part of something deliberate. :-/
Bugpowder: 5 seconds
mircea_popescu: 1 2 0 0 8.9.232.73 xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
mircea_popescu: 2 Timed out 1 0 4.69.145.204 ae-4-90.edge2.dallas3.level3.net
mircea_popescu: 3 7 7 7 4.59.36.94 softlayer-t.edge2.dallas3.level3.net
mircea_popescu: 4 8 7 8 50.97.18.195 ae6.dar01.sr01.dal05.networklayer.com
mircea_popescu: 5 10 8 7 173.192.118.139 po1.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com
mircea_popescu: 6 8 8 8 174.127.72.233 174.127.72.233.static.midphase.com
mircea_popescu: Trace complete
mircea_popescu: i get it from dallas just fine for instance
pgp: http://174.127.72.233/ comes up for me showing some Romanian hauling luggage...
mircea_popescu: pgp haha cool.
mircea_popescu: except it's a guatemalan.
smickles: midnightmagic: i'm so noob on this topic, i don't even know
midnightmagic: smickles: Okay.
smickles: my cali traceroute didn't look special
Bugpowder: still hanging at po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com (173.192.118.141) 89.246 ms
smickles: it must be in a different part
midnightmagic: maybe iran screwed their bgp advertisements up again
midnightmagic: that would be funny.
Bugpowder: 172.127.72.233 loads for me... text only, but the /mpex does not
smickles: text only? you're looking at the site as intended
smickles: ;)
mircea_popescu: lol.
pgp: lol
mircea_popescu: for my curiosity, if you edit your hosts to read
pgp: are you sure?
mircea_popescu: 174.127.72.233 mpex.co
mircea_popescu: does it suddenly work fine ?
mircea_popescu: (bind may need restart, or masq or w/e the dns is)
mircea_popescu: $vwap
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6J3qFf1L
pgp: although 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ does resolve...
kakobrekla: ;;goxlag
pgp: the google translator has the article beginning with "May be the reasons explained when talking about behavioral deviations , or if it is not of course a conspiracy of blacks, Jews, Masons, English and former wives . It is true that I lean toward the first explanation, "What do I know?"
kakobrekla: dafuq
kakobrekla: nanotube, gribble forgot -asset
kakobrekla: s
pgp: fascinating material - really...
mircea_popescu: pgp lol cool
pgp: I'm sure google isn't capturing the nuance of message...
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: anyway, i've told sysadmin ppls, see what they come up with
dub: dos again?
dub: you should stick some soa elsewhere so we can at least tell when you're gettign dosed
mircea_popescu: dub best i can tell there's some dns poisoning going on
dub: also fuck .co
mircea_popescu: so use .ws
mircea_popescu: dub does 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ resolve for you ?
pgp: although lumping in "former housewives" (or should it just be former wives) in with blacks, jew, mason and... english does strike me as subtly genius on a level that I'm not quite sure I understand....
mircea_popescu: pgp gimme a link i might make some sense of it
dub: um I don't think thats teh right question
mircea_popescu: ya ok. does it bring up a page ?
dub: I can reach 174.127.72.233
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: if you update your dns to have mpex.co resolve there you're good to go.
dub: 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ is a 302 to http://trilema.com/
dub: and polimedia is not resolving
mircea_popescu: hum
jborkl: polimedia.us not resolving
mircea_popescu: http://174.127.72.233/~polimedi/bitcoin/ << what does that do ?
jborkl: resolvingyes
dub: it shows mpex
mircea_popescu: mkay.
pgp: http://174.127.72.233/~polimedi/bitcoin/ yes it does!
mircea_popescu: not clear if intentional or accidental, if directed at mpex or just affecting some users, but the dns's are borkt.
dub: your problem is the soa is unreachable
mircea_popescu: for some people (not for all)
dub: well your soa records are on your domain
dub: which is broken
dub: if I cant resolve soa for polimedia.us im not goign to be able to ask ns1/2.polimedia.us how to get there
mircea_popescu: dub you will have to have soa on some server.
pgp: btw 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ seems to resolve to random MP musings...
mircea_popescu: if some user gets his dns fucked up and can't resolve that server
mircea_popescu: it will appear unreachable.
mircea_popescu: dub ns1/2 are registered as ns's tho, pretty much every dns server should know them by ip
dub: no
pgp: I'm now getting: Moment poetic.
pgp: Octombrie 25, 2010 | Autor: Mircea Popescu
pgp: De-ai adormi iubito pe linia ferata
pgp: Imbujorate trenuri te-or ocoli tiptil
pgp: Din ceruri au sa ninga baloturi mari de vata
pgp: Vor fi betii de roua, se va dansa cadril.
mircea_popescu: pgp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHrt7Fc99Eo there. with music.
dub: mircea_popescu: they will cache them for however long you instruct them to, then they will have to ask you again
mircea_popescu: dub right.
dub: but only after someone asks them
mircea_popescu: right.
dub: anyone this doesnt work for do: dig +trace polimedia.us
dub: for me there is no 'glue' in the root
mircea_popescu: ;; Received 228 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 49 ms
mircea_popescu: us. 172800 IN NS k.cctld.us.
mircea_popescu: us. 172800 IN NS e.cctld.us.
mircea_popescu: us. 172800 IN NS c.cctld.us.
mircea_popescu: us. 172800 IN NS f.cctld.us.
mircea_popescu: us. 172800 IN NS a.cctld.us.
mircea_popescu: us. 172800 IN NS b.cctld.us.
gribble: Error: "Received" is not a valid command.
dub: sorry, yes there is
mircea_popescu: ;; Received 98 bytes from 156.154.127.70#53(c.cctld.us) in 50 ms
mircea_popescu: polimedia.us. 14400 IN A 174.127.72.233
gribble: Error: "Received" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: it's there.
jborkl: mobile 4g service reaches it fine
mircea_popescu: somebody fucked up their dns best i can determine atm.
mircea_popescu: possibly l3
pgp: mp: your creation?
jborkl: ok back up on all ip tried
dub: mircea_popescu: anyway, use another domain for SOA
mircea_popescu: polimedia IS another domain from mpex.co
mircea_popescu: pgp nah
pgp: lol
dub: except we cant reach mpex or polimedia
dub: http://www.webdnstools.com/dnstools/articles/glue_records
mircea_popescu: so what'd a diff domain help ?
error4733: NSA, grow up please !
gigatube: Call the system administrator!
gigatube: PC Load Letter!?!?
dub: its been a long time since I gave a shit about dns so I cannot elucidate
dub: being 7 hours into a fault bridge dun't help
dub: suffice to say you have engineered yourself a spiffing spof there
mod6: dig @a.cctld.us polimedia.us ANY << so if you dig here, you get the forward zone, its just the gtld-servers that don't return a valid pointer
mod6: someone is doing something funny though
mod6: same thing with this: dig @a.cctld.us mpex.co ANY
mod6: they both have the same NS entries
mod6: werid.
mod6: mpexbot is still working as far as I can tell...
dub: I think his ns are just gettign hit
the-bucket-shop: ;;ticker m s.dice
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)
the-bucket-shop: ticker m s.dice
the-bucket-shop: nope
mod6: you gotta do:
mod6: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6227 shares, 31.76 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514093 / 0.00599987 (75748 shares, 389.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609733 / 0.0069 (2299780 shares, 14,022.52 BTC)
mod6: and, yeah, i got a successful stat back
the-bucket-shop: thanks mod6
mod6: np
mod6: what's strange is that even if they're blasting his NS's and trying to poison them, that shouldn't effect the gltd??
dub: I dont think it is
dub: his ns are bork
dub: dig @63.247.64.93 polimedia.us ANY +short
dub: noerror but no record either
dub: but I'm seeing 25% PL to them too
mircea_popescu: the obligatory tradehill bitchlsapping
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/children-and-their-delusions-today-jared-kenna-and-ryan-singer/
mircea_popescu: confirms that Chase Bank's website has indeed been hacked
mod6: dub: hmm. yeah i guess us and cc have they're own tld servers.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [+]
mod6: *their
mod6: doh!
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 54
gribble: There are currently 2699.4102 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 143185.579577 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
benkay: those ripple weirdos, amirite?
benkay: i thought we were evolving past debt-based economies
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 60
gribble: There are currently 14956.903 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 851660.539216 USD in total. | Data vintage: 50.4408 seconds
benkay: some of us are trying to i now understand
mod6: for the goats: http://youtu.be/LEP6-ICsjgg
Chaang-Noi: ahh i dont have flash installed :/
mod6: oh bummer, this is pretty funnay
mod6: i like the guy @ 1:20 or so, cracks me up
mod6: and by "guy" i mean the goat, not the actual human
Chaang-Noi: im about 50% of each
dub: mod6: lol you suck
dub: people on this call thinking im nuts now
olive_: ;;asks 53
mod6: dub haha wat?
gribble: There are currently 1728.8819 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 91113.8927114 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
mod6: anyway, i guess im just dusty
mod6: cuz back in the day they didn't have fancy ass tld's like co, or us lol
Chaang-Noi: they are fail for drop shipping anyway
Chaang-Noi: if i was in the usa i would offer a much better service, i have shitloads of stuff in stock already
benkay: some bureaucrats won at making bitcoin welcome in america
Chaang-Noi: who?
Chaang-Noi: how what?
benkay: the fincen people
benkay: or whatever their name is
benkay: the way i see this is that some bureaucrats decided to let bitcoin grow on its own here
Chaang-Noi: im not in the loop i guess
benkay: http://t.co/UclT7bCmSe
benkay: hoho
benkay: don't click that link if you value your privacy
BitHub: usa bitcoin companies are fucking idiots
benkay: sorry
BitHub: you idiots
mod6: *shrug*
BitHub: feel like herston at the end of planet of the apes
BitHub: you maniacs you blew it up
benkay: heh
mod6: why are yall worried?
the-bucket-shop: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)
benkay: the usg has a tendency to overreact, and may yet
benkay: but sometimes they let things be and try to just go after criminals
benkay: infrequently
BitHub: because bitcoin is going get gang banged by western laws and regulation
mod6: bah
mod6: who cares
BitHub: by end of the year
benkay: our government is like a pmsing older sister
mod6: they will try
mod6: and fail
benkay: sometimes arbitrarily bitchy
BitHub: they will fail if you're not based in usa
benkay: sometimes is like "hey kid have a joint"
BitHub: if your usa resident of usa bitcoin company consider yourself fucked
BitHub: or*
benkay: how so bh?
Bugpowder: I disagree
benkay: ++bugpowder
BitHub: licences
Bugpowder: Regulations cost money
Bugpowder: BUT
BitHub: tax
Bugpowder: VC's have money and may have been waiting for legal guidanc
mircea_popescu: ok, dns poisoning should be clearing atm by special arrangementy
benkay: i don't need to not pay taxes to live off bitcoins
mod6: mp: sweet
the-bucket-shop: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066743 / 0.00069359 / 0.00076717 (465282 shares, 322.72 BTC), 7D: 0.00066743 / 0.00071669 / 0.00077241 (2302852 shares, 1,650.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00070265 / 0.00078628 (40174787 shares, 28,229.00 BTC)
Bugpowder: The more clarity there is to the marketplace the more willing people are to invest and build companies
benkay: i don't need to not pay taxes to build profitable businesses period.
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder what's your read on the guidance ?
BitHub: just email the gov your wallet.dat file and give up
mircea_popescu: seems overall very positive.
Bugpowder: Great news for users
Bugpowder: OK for miners
benkay: great for network. forces miners to spend in-network.
Bugpowder: cause who really is gonna hunt u down over 25BTC
Bugpowder: guilds might have an issue
benkay: "forces"
BitHub: the gov gave up on google and apple
BitHub: and now going after everyone else
Bugpowder: so breaking up guilds is kinda good too. BTCguild went over 40%
mircea_popescu: yah, a hidden gift in there
BitHub: thank christ not a usa resident or usa bitcoin company
benkay: i want to meet the people who wrote those regulations
mircea_popescu: exchanges had to get cleanned up anyway
Bugpowder: Coinlab et al, is unclear. Could be a tougher road, but leaves a path open.
mircea_popescu: On a more general note : the time of cowboy style, “one man and his hopes” fiat-BTC exchanges has passed. The exchange market is moving into a new phase. There is room on it for MtGox, on account of its old age and well known brand, and for people like the Frenchies doing that bitcoin-central partner-with-a-bank thing. All other exchanges are going out, and things being what they are the majority of them will be go
mircea_popescu: ing out uncleanly.
mircea_popescu: Because of this, keeping money in any other fiat-BTC exchanges than those two is pretty much cruisin’ for a bruisin’. Spot sellers may still be safe for a while, select ones may even be safe forever (as they’re a subset of the OTC style marketplace), but for better or worse cowboy exchanges are a thing of the past.
mircea_popescu: i love quoting myself!
Bugpowder: A real company will be able to pass regs
BitHub: yeah i cant wait to use paypal's bitcoin service
benkay: as a normal user it'll be perfect, bithub
Bugpowder: Dude. If you hold coins now
benkay: its what they need
BitHub: i cant wait to have all the old dinosaur fucks involved
Bugpowder: and paypal starts a service
Bugpowder: you will be fucking rich
mod6: except when they "freeze" your private key lol
mircea_popescu: ^ that.
benkay: yeah, but norms don't need to care about that
mod6: ok just send me ur btc plz
Bugpowder: I'm done selling coins
BitHub: i dont know
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
BitHub: honestly
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 51.74014, Best ask: 51.99996, Bid-ask spread: 0.25982, Last trade: 51.99998, 24 hour volume: 75673.06898668, 24 hour low: 47.20000, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.44165
Bugpowder: Regualtory pressure was my biggest worry
BitHub: if it hits 100 im cashing out for good
BitHub: and moving onto something else
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder you're not alone let me tell you.
error4733: like satoshi
BitHub: move onto it quickly before it gets raped by western laws and regulation
benkay: i see a road to acceptance in america.
Bugpowder: Exactly
benkay: it'll be hard and it'll take leadership
Bugpowder: This the the DREAM act for bitcoin
Bugpowder: Amnesty!
error4733: yes
dub: uh wtf happened?
error4733: free card
dub: I missed it
BitHub: you'll just have the same old dinosaurs controlling bitcoin
Bugpowder: FinCEN issued guidance
BitHub: to be honest id rather go back to cash
error4733: btc is play money, enjoy
dub: link?
BitHub: what a joke
Bugpowder: I am 75% sure that IRS will issue tax guidance before year end too
benkay: someone put this into the title
benkay: http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html
mod6: no surrender imho
benkay: topic
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder if it reads like youi want it to read we're golden
benkay: whatever
mod6: no white flags, only black flags
Bugpowder: Not out of the woods yet
Bugpowder: I would keep my coins close
BitHub: this is only revelent to USA people right?
Bugpowder: don't leave them parked on exchances
BitHub: so i shouldn't give a shit?
Bugpowder: Naw... Has major exchage rate implications
BitHub: bullshit man
Bugpowder: If it fucks liquidity that will be bad short term
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.831 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.831 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: But I think the market will view as net positive
mircea_popescu: btc liquidity or fiat liquidity ?
error4733: they alway hit the money first (fiat
Bugpowder: USD -> BTC liquidity
Bugpowder: did they read on that?
benkay: "users of virtual currency"
BitHub: good luck trying to cash out 1 million dollars
benkay: i came
BitHub: straight to jail
Bugpowder: ore just BTC 0-> USD
Bugpowder: BitHub: You are delusional
Bugpowder: Cash out 1 million
Bugpowder: pay taxes
BitHub: why?
mircea_popescu: buy all the girls new tits.
Bugpowder: show where you bought it from
Bugpowder: don't go to jail
mod6: why would you want to cash out to near-worthless fiat?
error4733: touche
Bugpowder: mod6: Not worthless yet
BitHub: but why
BitHub: i'm not doing anything criminal
error4733: house, car ?
Bugpowder: Suppose you wanted to buy a Tesla.
Bugpowder: hypothetically
BitHub: tesla?
Diablo-D3: a car
mircea_popescu: suppose you want to give a girl a 2nd pair of tits.
Bugpowder: Elon has not responded to my tweets re: the Bitcoins for Tesla plan
BitHub: right
Diablo-D3: Bugpowder: acccttuuuaaalllly
Diablo-D3: thats the funny thing
BitHub: BitHub paid for those tits
Diablo-D3: Elon likes Bitcoin but wont publically state it
BitHub: i'm a contractor for BitHub
Bugpowder: I should DM him
Diablo-D3: shit like this gives Elon a boner
Bugpowder: Got a friend who has dinner with him occasionally
Bugpowder: but, not me.
benkay: some friend
Bugpowder: Family at SpaceX
BitHub: so is the gov goign to tax me from my job or from bitcoin/
BitHub: or double dip
Bugpowder: double dip
Bugpowder: of course
BitHub: pffft
BitHub: fucking assholes
BitHub: anyway my wallet got hacked
benkay: ;)
BitHub: sorry gov
Bugpowder: yeah
Bugpowder: exactly
Bugpowder: Its the return of the Honest John system
BitHub: lulz
Bugpowder: re: tax filing
Bugpowder: if you never cash
BitHub: yeah got to cash out secretly
Bugpowder: I might have to take down my localbitcoins profile though
benkay: that's what the irs ruling will determine
BitHub: like an actual drug deal
BitHub: jesus
benkay: or buy stuff with them
dub: why not just pay tax you fucking leeches
benkay: gott im himmel
Bugpowder: I am still waiting for my headphones
dub: you get a society, pay for it
Bugpowder: from bitcoinstore
Bugpowder: I don't mind paying 15%
BitHub: yeah dub's right we should pay tax on it to get more guns
BitHub: we don't have enough guns in america
error4733: i live in nigeria i dont have society
mircea_popescu: dub i don't mind paying whores, but only if they're on their knees.
BitHub: i don't feel safe
Bugpowder: I don't want to pay 39.8% + 13%
mircea_popescu: this society is too uppity.
benkay: you can also think about taxation as endorsing your local government
BitHub: why pay a middleman that does a shit job at creating a society?
benkay: do you?
dub: BitHub: I dont live in america, I pay tax to get healthcare, education, a working society
BitHub: me too
BitHub: its already at about 30-35 %
benkay: i don't
dub: and yes look after people less useful than me
BitHub: now they want more?
dub: but its cheaper to feed them than let them die
dub: I pay ~50% tax
error4733: be happy, you could leave in Cyprus
BitHub: its a sick joke anyway
Bugpowder: ;;asks 30
Bugpowder: ;;bids 30
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
gribble: There are currently 148225.44 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 5579457.76514 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0145 seconds
mircea_popescu: <dub> but its cheaper to feed them than let them die <! ?what ?
BitHub: try and put real life bullshit rules on me
Bugpowder: ;;bids 0
gribble: There are currently 57979983 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8084076.7019 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.3481 seconds
Bugpowder: 8M
dub: mircea_popescu: having people dying about the place is a big burden on society
Bugpowder: lame
Bugpowder: stuck
mircea_popescu: dub ...
Bugpowder: at 8M
mircea_popescu: show how this costs money.
benkay: 8m
dub: its cheaper to give them $20k/year to buy ciggaretes and gamble
BitHub: why don't the gov get their money off google and apple first
BitHub: get them to pay their proper tax
mircea_popescu: dub cheaper than what ?
BitHub: then we can talk
Bugpowder: not really. Healthcare is the main gov cost
Thinker: its cheaper in the long run to let them die off
Bugpowder: or will be soon
benkay: big blowout around 10m
BitHub: fucking idiots
dub: mircea_popescu: cheaper than scraping them up out of teh gutter
BitHub: so broke, they'll have to live by china's rules soon anyway
mircea_popescu: dub are you kidding ?
dub: not at all
mircea_popescu: you can do that with power tools, costs nothing per pound
dub: its also a shitload cheapt than sticking them in prison
dub: cheaper*
mircea_popescu: and the value of me showing random forum idiots what happens iof they continue is > 9000
mircea_popescu: this is the problem with unbeaten children and "everyone living comfortably"
mircea_popescu: there's no motivation left.
dub: well the reality is this shit is factually correct
mircea_popescu: and without motivation there's no education.
mircea_popescu: dub not rly. you just want it to be correct so as not to be forced to reevaluate the coolaid you've been fed.
Thinker: cut off the entitlements. that will make them choose between work or death. remove the safety nets that are being used like hammocks.
dub: no, I understand the economics of it
mircea_popescu: mkay.
dub: what you are advocating for is america
dub: and that is clearly working well
mircea_popescu: not rly.
mircea_popescu: i mean forget the strawmen and red herrings for a second.
mircea_popescu: the cost of pushing dead bodies with a bulldozer vs the cost of pretending like the idiots are people.
mircea_popescu: five degrees of magnitude ? six ? nine ?
mircea_popescu: stick to the economics of it.
dub: the problem is pushign the dead into a hole is not the only cost, there is fallout
BitHub: here we go again, make something illegal for the lil guys, but really expensive licencing for the big boys
mircea_popescu: dub so you posit.
mircea_popescu: familiar with the millions for defense but not a penny in bribes line ?
BitHub: would you pay a guy alot of your money if all he did was cockblock you from a really hot girl all the time?
Bugpowder: How expensive will this licensing actually be?
dub: ok, perhaps the problem is that we are already at a toage of societal evolution where reverting ro your ideal is not feasable
BitHub: expensive, bet your ass on that
mircea_popescu: dub let's find out shall we.
BitHub: Money Transmitter license
dub: not without some genocide at the front
Bugpowder: Lawyers are expensive, but its still pretty hard to hit $1MM on a single tranactional licensing setup
mircea_popescu: as long as i got the money you're not telling me what's feasible.
Thinker: How do you feel about your tax dollars supporting guys like this that are so pathetic they can't even move their bodies down to Walmart to wait in line to buy Diablo 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJtDUZMSOBw
BitHub: tax is just another life's scams
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is pretty much the end of mandatory taxation. society will have to cope.
mircea_popescu: you want to be helped, give me a good reason.
Thinker: mircea_popescu: exactly.
mircea_popescu: that starts with doing an excellent cocksucking job.
mircea_popescu: it does NOT start with threatening me.
benkay: haha
mircea_popescu: i'll just have you shot, a bullet is cheaper.
benkay: government's that actually work
benkay: derp
benkay: governments
benkay: shit yeah oh i totally get it
benkay: government as a service
mircea_popescu: yup
mircea_popescu: police wants money ? start asking people to donate.
mircea_popescu: you piss people off ? guess what. no budget.
BitHub: your first statement mircea brings me alot of relief
benkay: hohohohoho
Thinker: socialism ("free" stuff from government) disrupts natural selection.
mircea_popescu: watch cops help old ladies cross the street on this model.
dub: socialism does nto provide free stuff
benkay: cops may actually have to engage in dialogue with citizens
benkay: about what should be enforced
mircea_popescu: benkay yes. with their hats in their hands.
BitHub: intead of just beating them?
Thinker: cops will realize that yes, we are their boss and not the other way around.
Bugpowder: There are almost 40,000 registered money transmitters in the US
benkay: mind = blown
dub: and cops are already scum of the earth
Bugpowder: It costs $1000 to register in Washington state
Bugpowder: http://mortgage.nationwidelicensingsystem.org/slr/PublishedStateDocuments/WA-Currency-Exchange-Company-New-App-Checklist.pdf
benkay: ahaha
benkay: and
benkay: AND
dub: if you are not good at anything you become a cop or a teacher
Bugpowder: first thing I found
benkay: departments aren't interdependent
benkay: forest service can accept "tithe"
benkay: or whatever
benkay: so can dod
benkay: nsa
benkay: omgomgomgomg
Thinker: dub: well said
dub: if you can handle a mop you go into the janitorial arts which probalby pays better
Bugpowder: SO..... If coinlab can't handle something of this moderate level of effort and cost, I don't want to deal with them
Thinker: i know how we can get more people employed. eliminate minimum wage and entitlements.
benkay: i haven't felt like this since reading ayn rand as a wee one
Bugpowder: LOL
dub: benkay: thats all well and good, but really you are just reinventing states
mircea_popescu: dub nope. the us is puritan-stupid, for one.
benkay: one must keep riff raff like you out
BitHub: so you just need a 1000$ licence?
mircea_popescu: and moreover, they're about as socialist as the uk by now
benkay: this enables sea farming
Bugpowder: So, my reading of the FinCEN guidance is more positive now that it is established that it costs $1000 to register in WA. I don't know if that let's you operate in other states as well, but if you need to register in all states then lets say $50,000 and a pain in the ass.
BitHub: and pay coporate tax
Bugpowder: BitHub: Looks like it. It would take some lawyer time to make sure the t's are crossed and i's dotted.
BitHub: and lawyer fees
mircea_popescu: sooo... bitbet dividends for march revised upwards.
Bugpowder: Sure. But this is PEANUTS for a real company
BitHub: right
Bugpowder: Series A should cover it an amore
Bugpowder: and more
mircea_popescu: on top of 20+ btc expected from bet resolutions there's about 10btc or so coming from people who tried to leech the btc/usd rate bet and got in too late.
BitHub: so better to have paypal in there then say give me a go
mod6: they tried to game the weight along side of the exchange rate?
mircea_popescu: mod6 yeah.
mod6: anyway, thats interesting. thanks for the heads up mp.
mircea_popescu: it's reallty delicious when wanna-be cheaters get rammed.
mod6: =)
mod6: mpex.co seems to work fine for me over http now
mod6: btw
benkay: ;;goxlag
gribble: 0.907938 seconds
mod6: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 37.53972864 / 42.55721868 / 57.53184036 (20165 shares, 3,142.64 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
kakobrekla: they are refunded if they come before bet is closed but after the event
kakobrekla: if the bet is already closed
kakobrekla: then no.
the-bucket-shop: !ticker m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)
kakobrekla: !l m s.bbet
assbot: Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.0018 BTC [+]
mod6: nice kakobrekla
kakobrekla: :p
mod6: need a volume data point maybe
kakobrekla: you can only abuse it 3 million times
mod6: heheh
kakobrekla: > however this stock is going to be better than fiat.
kakobrekla: chang you are full of wisdom
kakobrekla: dog shit is better than fiat.
kakobrekla: at least you can fertilize
mod6: growing up here in the U.S. I was taught to hate all paper currency that wasn't backed by sound money. but then they go, "well, except we don't have the ``gold-standard'' any more since they went off the Bretton Woods system." "Ummm.. so what do they do now???" "Well they say we have this petro-dollar"...
mod6: "ok so why did we go off the gold standard?" "to pay for the vietnam war.." "so what do we do when it goes to 0?" "hopefully that'll be long after we're gone..."
mod6: lol
Anduck: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6827 shares, 34.82 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514061 / 0.00599987 (76348 shares, 392.48 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609701 / 0.0069 (2300180 shares, 14,024.24 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1544 @ 0.00073702 = 1.138 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7570 @ 0.00073701 = 5.5792 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: damn i should buy some platinum...
Chaang-Noi: or maybe not, its not like people are making cars... :/
Chaang-Noi: wtf is palladium so damn high
Chaang-Noi: i remeber buying it at 180
Chaang-Noi: Rhodium is cheap too, hmm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5827 @ 0.0007431 = 4.33 BTC [+]
Namworld: Looks like I'm only earning 4 BTC weekly on my stuff...
Namworld: Seems little.
Namworld: Guess I need to keep working on my portfolio.
Chaang-Noi: $800 a month not bad, but why not just asicminer? :)
Namworld: I got a bit of ASICMINER. Not enough in my taste but anyway.
Namworld: I'll be heading off.
Namworld: 5:51 am already...
dub: !ticket btctc ASICMINER-PT
dub: !ticker btctc ASICMINER-PT
assbot: [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.82 / 0.85386 / 0.870899 (86 shares, 73.4 BTC), 7D: 0.695 / 0.79714 / 0.9489 (1507 shares, 1201.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.74566 / 1 (2960 shares, 2207.2 BTC)
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 53
gribble: There are currently 921.05612 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 48812.979279 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;last
gribble: [03:04:10] <Chaang-Noi> ;;asks 53
BitHub: batch 3 worth getting?
Chaang-Noi: avalon?
BitHub: yeah
Chaang-Noi: without doing the math and the guess work, i would say i think so
BitHub: trippy
Chaang-Noi: has bfl shipped yet?
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 53
gribble: There are currently 722.61371 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 38298.5268802 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 52.99
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 52.99 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.9715 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 52.99
gribble: There are currently 38.803471 bitcoins offered at or under 52.99 USD, worth 2056.19594419 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: going for 54
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.11001, Best ask: 53.48997, Bid-ask spread: 0.37996, Last trade: 53.11001, 24 hour volume: 86658.81830554, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.98340
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 34
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 34.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.6629 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 54
gribble: There are currently 482.93073 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 26065.6459656 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.7521 seconds
Chaang-Noi: wow only 482
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 55
gribble: There are currently 6252.8908 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 342685.770975 USD in total. | Data vintage: 45.6435 seconds
Chaang-Noi: 6k is kinda of a wall :/
Chaang-Noi: ;;gox lag
gribble: Error: "gox" is not a valid command.
Chaang-Noi: ;;goxlag
gribble: 0 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 54
gribble: There are currently 897.77964 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 48343.2061181 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.4904 seconds
kakobrekla: >I totally agree and we understand this. Timing is crucial and we have only a couple of months to make serious profits. Bitfury did not sleep for last 2 days :-)
kakobrekla: hehe
Chaang-Noi: ?
Chaang-Noi: i lack context
kakobrekla: asic
Chaang-Noi: oh right
Chaang-Noi: are they selling batch 3 now?
tiberiusiv: avalon?
kakobrekla: this is bitfury
BitHub: yeah
BitHub: worth getting?
Chaang-Noi: what is bitfury?
Chaang-Noi: is bitfurry one of the fake asics?
kakobrekla: well, he he has the best know-how of them all
Line_: what's this password thing?
Chaang-Noi: im not sure who is doing the bitfury, i did not follow that stuff to closely
kakobrekla: bitfury is doing it
kakobrekla: :p
Chaang-Noi: never heard of them,
kakobrekla: are you on the same internet as we are?
Bowjob: yawn
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.60000, Best ask: 53.69991, Bid-ask spread: 0.09991, Last trade: 53.60000, 24 hour volume: 87411.56184324, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.87500, 24 hour vwap: 50.02467
Chaang-Noi: okay i did look at them before and assumed scam
Chaang-Noi: not a scam??
kakobrekla: well dunno about the whole picostocks thingy
Chaang-Noi: hmm im going to pass
Chaang-Noi: for now at least]
vampireb: hmm did they deliver the fcpga?
kakobrekla: hm got booted
kakobrekla: 12:16.27 ( kakobrekla ) [12:13:26] well dunno about the whole picostocks thingy
kakobrekla: but someone dumped him 350k to make the prototype chip
kakobrekla: vampireb yup but the devices never seen the light of public
kakobrekla: one of my friends got it
kakobrekla: twas a 10 chip spartan board
Chaang-Noi: hmm
kakobrekla: each runnin at 300mhash
Chaang-Noi: if real might be a great buy
kakobrekla: imma gonna try to get a board
Bowjob: i just woke up
mjr_: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.88798, Best ask: 53.88880, Bid-ask spread: 0.00082, Last trade: 53.88880, 24 hour volume: 87468.56354421, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.88880, 24 hour vwap: 50.03290
Line_: anyone paid with bitpay on here before?
Bowjob: looks like avalon is gearing for number 3
Bowjob: woot
Line_: There's no account i set up,right?
Chaang-Noi: no account no
Chaang-Noi: i used them with namecheap
Line_: ok
Chaang-Noi: did avlon ship number 2?
Bowjob: not that i know of
Chaang-Noi: did they fully ship #1?
Line_: they have until the 15th according their website
Bowjob: they should by now. lots of ppl are reporting that they got theirs
Bowjob: i assume the rest are hush hush
Chaang-Noi: ok
Bowjob: i wonder if number 3 is a good buy
Bowjob: i wouldnt mind reselling them
kakobrekla: too bad they dont sell single modules
kakobrekla: dunno why
kakobrekla: would be so easy
Bowjob: mhm, id love another module on mine actually
kakobrekla: id put one in the computah
Chaang-Noi: you have one now?
leotreasure: i'm still waiting for avalon batch 1
Chaang-Noi: its hard for me to order batch 3 with not fully on batch 1
Chaang-Noi: its why i wont do bfl :/
Bowjob: better than bfl
Bowjob: infinitely better than bfl, actually
Chaang-Noi: shit and better shit is still shit :/
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 54
gribble: There are currently 579.33782 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 31281.906441 USD in total. | Data vintage: 40.3135 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50754217 = 1.0151 BTC [-]
Bowjob: suddenly people who have money in their mattress seem so fucking smart
mjr_: lol
mjr_: smarter than people with money in cypriot banks
Chaang-Noi: :)
kakobrekla: i have cas coin under my pillow
mjr_: less smart than people with money in bitcoins
Bowjob: I wanna travel to some other countries..
Chaang-Noi: 2/3 of the money is russian money.. and tehy thought the russan govt would tax it, muhahahaha
Bowjob: but I fear I might be a target as a tourist
Bowjob: lol
kakobrekla: rape target?
Bowjob: nah, ransom one
kakobrekla: rape and ransom then.
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: id need some sort of body guard
kakobrekla: yeah i was paranoid too when i was checkin prime miner
kakobrekla: so only took 1k btc with me
Bowjob: i think ill just stay in canada. ive seen too many beheadings
Bowjob: mexico is one scary place
Chaang-Noi: lol
Chaang-Noi: i have been around, even war zones, no one has ever fucked with me
kakobrekla: pirate fucked with you
Bowjob: thailand seems a scary place too. ive seen bloated bodies everywhere
Bowjob: tho, the food is pretty nice
Chaang-Noi: that is what i hear kakobrekla
Bowjob: lots of trap it seems
pizzaman1337: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.99001, Best ask: 54.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 54.00000, 24 hour volume: 87866.28367331, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 54.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.05095
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50663276 = 1.0133 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 53.98003 U.S. dollars = 41.7027426 Euros
kakobrekla: 42 is alright.
kakobrekla: the answer to everything ya know...
tiberiusiv: cyprus losses are positive for the euro
kakobrekla: hm?
tiberiusiv: people will now do due deligience when choosing banks vs accepting any ridiculous interest rate
tiberiusiv: and deposit losses are deflationary
kakobrekla: the interests rate is going negative
Chaang-Noi: there goes 54
tiberiusiv: because credit is contracting
Bowjob: I checked my bank, they advertised 1.89% GIC for 18 months as sizzling rate
kakobrekla: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
tiberiusiv: all the deposits have been lent out
kakobrekla: its all thin
tiberiusiv: losing 9% is better then losing 100%
Chaang-Noi: after 55 nothing really to 60
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 55
gribble: There are currently 5818.8542 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 319138.813903 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
tiberiusiv: bowjob: most of the depositors in cyprys were earning high rates for a decade +
Chaang-Noi: could take a day
Bowjob: how much?
tiberiusiv: bowjob: the cyprus banks held all their $$ in greek bonds
Chaang-Noi: greek bonds :) silly russians
tiberiusiv: sure when deposit insurance guarantees your account
tiberiusiv: you dont care what the bank does with the $
tiberiusiv: the depositers are recieving a great deal, 9% loss or 100%
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50663276 = 1.0133 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: same is in the US, all deposits have been lent out, they are sitting in mortgages, ccs, bonds, carloans
mjr_: it's a wonderful life?
mjr_: yes, you don't actually have money in the bank
mjr_: you have a promise from the bank to pay you when you ask
tiberiusiv: yes
tiberiusiv: if rates rise in the US the entire banking system will be insolvent
Chaang-Noi: so the insurance is not being paid? lulz, time for scammer tag
tiberiusiv: and there wont be quality assets for the fed to buy
mjr_: cyprus situation is fucked up
mjr_: scammer tag on cyprus govt?
Chaang-Noi: :)
tiberiusiv: chaang: its impossible for the government to insure the accounts, the insurance fund does not even cover 1%
tiberiusiv: chaang: for example in the US, the FDIC has maybe 1% in reserve to cover deposits
Chaang-Noi: scammer tag time then?
tiberiusiv: mjr_: depositors had over 2 years to realize cyprus banks were bust
tiberiusiv: how is it a sudden thing? everyone knew cyprus banks held all their assets as greek bonds
tiberiusiv: why were the locals all surprised, did they not read the news for the last 24 months lol
mjr_: that is not the point
mjr_: i am sure lots of people (prob those least likely to be harmed) got their money out
mjr_: the point is i gave you money, you said it was insured and that you would pay it when i asked, you broke your promise to pay
tiberiusiv: thats your fault for trusting in government
mjr_: since all you gave me in return for my money was your promise to pay, the fact that you can't do that one thing...scammer
tiberiusiv: you have thousands of years of history to look back on government defaulting
mjr_: oh of course
mjr_: and i don't keep money in banks
mjr_: btc FTW
tiberiusiv: not to mention cyprys residents had 6 years since greece became shaky
mjr_: i'm just saying, more than likely it will be small business owners and average working people who will be hurt in cyprus
tiberiusiv: well theres a reason they are average and working
mjr_: they weren't using the bank as a "tax haven" they were using it as a "bank"
mjr_: anyway, i'm with you on that, don't trust govt or banks
mjr_: just saying, this is the reason i don't trust them
tiberiusiv: instead of spending most of their time watching sports and drinking wine they should have devoted even 30minutes to read the bear case
mjr_: whether they should have seen it coming does not excuse the fact that they did that
mjr_: and again, they get hurt, but not because they deserve it, it is of course in their best interest to look out for themselves and not get hurt
mjr_: but you still can find fault with the one hurting them
tiberiusiv: i think people should lose 100% of their deposits
tiberiusiv: globally
tiberiusiv: teach people a good lesson about being naive and lazy
jurov: tiberiusiv, can i extend that to coinbr? but i have everything on mpex anyway :/
tiberiusiv: all global deposits are lent out
mircea_popescu: lol listen tiberiusiv, something like a 30 to 40% haircut => collapse.
tiberiusiv: you cant really avoid it though
tiberiusiv: the debt has already been created
tiberiusiv: 70 years of debt creation has to end at some point
mircea_popescu: this is true, but no government ever has or ever will survive a one third haircut of assets.
mircea_popescu: that's roughly the equivalent of foreign invasion.
tiberiusiv: plus all the real wealth in the world will not be lost
tiberiusiv: well the only other option is to attempt to inflate away
mircea_popescu: indeed.
tiberiusiv: problem with that arguement is the debt size is simply too large
mircea_popescu: nah.
mircea_popescu: nothing is too large for inflation.
tiberiusiv: in advanced economies the bond markets are huge, they will increase rates on any inflate attempts
tiberiusiv: total credit market debt in US is 58trillion, bernanke is having a difficult time creating 3tril
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: mircea: if it wasnt too large to inflate, then greek bonds would have been made 100% whole
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv there's a problem of marginality here,.
mircea_popescu: inflate for the greeks ? why ?
tiberiusiv: you arent bailing greeks out but greek creditors
tiberiusiv: which are trade surplus nations like germany
mjr_: trade surplus just means "we make things people want"
tiberiusiv: no it means you run a vendor financing model
tiberiusiv: germany sends products out on credit
tiberiusiv: the "export" economy will collapse
tiberiusiv: think of germany as a large department store, and all of its customers use only the store credit card to purchase goods
tiberiusiv: then the bill comes due and no one can pay
tiberiusiv: in the meantime all your factories are leveraged to the hilt from borrowing to expand, to meet fake demand
tiberiusiv: that is germany
mircea_popescu: well... perhaps exaggerated but certainly something to it.
tiberiusiv: notice how german industry bought up so many firms over the last decade?
tiberiusiv: ie especially in car manufacturing
tiberiusiv: volkswagen is highly leveraged
tiberiusiv: they own like 80% of EU automakers
tiberiusiv: thats all from operational debt incurred to expand production of cars nobody could afford
tiberiusiv: largest losses will happen to creditors like germany at some point
mjr_: well...perhaps there is something to the old saying "neither a borrower or a lender be..."
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 53.79901, Best ask: 53.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 53.80000, 24 hour volume: 89545.76316294, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 54.28880, 24 hour vwap: 50.13851
mircea_popescu: looking sweet.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50240325 = 502.4033 BTC [-]
pizzaman1337: 500 btc? nice
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: !ticker m p750t
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.50240325 / 0.50243028 / 0.50754217 (1006 shares, 505.44 BTC), 7D: 0.50240325 / 0.50243028 / 0.50754217 (1006 shares, 505.44 BTC), 30D: 0.50240325 / 1.04607226 / 1.53153505 (29789 shares, 31,161.45 BTC)
mircea_popescu: that line got 30k worth of trades thios month, it;'s been crazy
mircea_popescu: "we hope to be able to finally be back to regular delays by April."
mircea_popescu: lmao
tiberiusiv: is that a 75 call option?
mircea_popescu: put
Chaang-Noi: what is the price on a call option for 30 d for 75 btc?
tiberiusiv: 30k of volume is quite a bit
mircea_popescu: $depth O.BTCUSD.C750T
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Bids: []
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1 @ 1425081']
mircea_popescu: hum
Chaang-Noi: !ticker m c750t
assbot: You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
mircea_popescu: $depth O.BTCUSD.C750T
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Bids: ['1000 @ 2']
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1 @ 1425081', '1000 @ 5181251']
mircea_popescu: costs you about half a btc to buy, get 2 satoshi per if you sell
Chaang-Noi: large spread
mircea_popescu: im sorry
mircea_popescu: like 0.05 btc not 0.5
mircea_popescu: miscounted them digits
mjr_: !ticker m c410t
assbot: [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1D: 0.23958397 / 0.23958397 / 0.23958397 (4 shares, 0.96 BTC), 7D: 0.23 / 0.23479198 / 0.23958397 (8 shares, 1.88 BTC), 30D: 0.12612881 / 0.19916485 / 0.23958397 (15018 shares, 2,991.06 BTC)
Chaang-Noi: and that is per contract?
mircea_popescu: yeah
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50210205 = 502.1021 BTC [-]
mjr_: what does the (4 shares, 0.96 BTC) mean?
mjr_: is that outstanding?
Chaang-Noi: so if i spent 1 btc i would get 20 contracts, so if btc went to 75 or more i then get them, or just the fiat over 75?
mircea_popescu: mjr_ that 4 contracts worth .96 btc were traded
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi if btc goes to 76 you get (76 - 75) / 76
mjr_: mircea_popescu: thanks, that was me...so i was wondering why my trade was on there
mircea_popescu: call means you get whatever's over the strike
Chaang-Noi: in fiat?
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi no, in btc.
Bowjob: hey chang
mircea_popescu: mjr_ well... what do you mean why ? cause it was traded
Chaang-Noi: but the btc will be valued at the current price
Bowjob: wanna crash LTC again?
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi no, at the then current price. hence the /76 if price is 76
Chaang-Noi: bowjob i have been thinking about it, all down to .008 but not right now
Bowjob: right
Bowjob: id appreciate a heads up Lol
mjr_: mircea_popescu: was just curious, i sold half my position of the 41 calls for .96 btc (4 contracts) i still have four more :)
Bowjob: I managed to arb 6 BTC from 10 to 11
mircea_popescu: it only shows what's traded
Bowjob: then I got out
Bowjob: xD
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.105 = 0.945 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: so to get 20x 1/76 a btc it would not be worth spending 1 btc, lol
mircea_popescu: depends where the price goes.
Chaang-Noi: 75 is already way out of the money
mircea_popescu: if it goes to 200 you get 125 / 200 = .62 each x 20 = 13 btc so like 13x
mircea_popescu: but yes probably better calls to buy than the 75
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: .05 is just way to high, that low ass bid is fine,
mircea_popescu: well, you can make and sell your own if you want.
Chaang-Noi: im sure they would love to have that filled
mircea_popescu: anyway, far out of the money calls are great from a fiat perspective. say you are sure btc is going to 500. what can you do ?
mircea_popescu: well... you could send 50k usd to an exchange and buy 1000 btc. but this takes time and all the bs.
Chaang-Noi: 1000% in 30 days is a bit much
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.105 = 0.945 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you could also buy 20 btc and then buy options with them, gain 400 btc exposure that way
Chaang-Noi: yerah there are uses for options, i used to trade them when oil was doing so well
Chaang-Noi: but that .05 price is just unreasonable
mjr_: its a nice way to give yourself exposure
mircea_popescu: so you look at it... well i bought 50 dollars worth of 1 btc, got 20 calls at 75, now i made 13 btc which are worth 200 each. so from 50 to 2600 dollars.
mircea_popescu: in a fiat perspective
Chaang-Noi: yeah but im all in crypto
mjr_: is jurov on right now?
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi then probably selling puts is better for you
mjr_: i was wondering if you could write options on coinbr...
mircea_popescu: anyway
Chaang-Noi: im pretty bullish
mircea_popescu: with all the problems us people have buying esp large ammts of btc
Bowjob: the oix changed drastically
mircea_popescu: options are kinda a must for them
mjr_: i would like to sell puts and buy calls at a certain price
mircea_popescu: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 57.53184036 / 57.53184036 (6757 shares, 788.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Bowjob: theres this house for sale in dallas
Bowjob: for 8j BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50180097 = 501.801 BTC [-]
Bowjob: 8k
Bowjob: pretty cool looking
mjr_: heard there was an apt for rent in bitcoins in spain
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.856 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8649 = 2.5947 BTC [+]
mjr_: did anyone hear about etoro? was that just a rumor?
Bowjob: its legit
Chaang-Noi: ?
mjr_: i couldn't find it on their site
Bowjob: another bullish sign
mjr_: yeah true
Bowjob: i wish i didnt play dice back then lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8649 = 1.7298 BTC [+]
Bowjob: id have even more money now
mircea_popescu: more money mopre problesm
Chaang-Noi: :)
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: firstworldproblems
Bowjob: i cant really complain.. ill be rich off of this
Bowjob: heh
Bowjob: electrum is slow
Bowjob: the dollar amount shows 47 per coin
tiberiusiv: what was the etoro news?
Bowjob: then again I wish I went all in, including some unemployment, I would have gotten avout $150 grand by now
Bowjob: back in december
Bowjob: hehe
Bowjob: etoro will basically start trading btc
Bowjob: http://www.etoro.com/blog/markets/13032013/bitcoin-the-top-performing-currency-in-the-world/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00076039 = 6.7295 BTC [+]
tiberiusiv: coulda shoulda woulda
tiberiusiv: where did they announce that
tiberiusiv: damn thats very positive news
Bowjob: on the internet
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50089845 = 500.8985 BTC [-]
tiberiusiv: might take huge market share away from mtgox?
Bowjob: would it be favourable for someone who bought a mini rig eons ago to capitulate and wait to pre order avalon # 3 instead?
tiberiusiv: etoro was more of a gambling site
Chaang-Noi: attack on 55
Chaang-Noi: gamblers love btc
mircea_popescu: http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-officers-rifle-mistake-2013-3#ixzz2NdngHBQy
tiberiusiv: when will BFL just default
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv probably never.
mircea_popescu: it will just fade for six months or a year, then some clueless nitwit a la Ryan Singer will "bring it back"
tiberiusiv: think they will come through?
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem likely
Chaang-Noi: bfl or tf?
Chaang-Noi: i mean th
Bowjob: http://i.imgur.com/cbUmsFc.jpg?1
tiberiusiv: wont etoro take substantial marketshare from mtgox
mircea_popescu: i guess mtgox is basically imploding.
mircea_popescu: they were bleeding market share pretty much monthly since 2011 or so
mircea_popescu: but by now...
Chaang-Noi: bowjob i just looked at ltc, it would take more than what i want to spend to get ltc under .08
Chaang-Noi: no realy point in it
mircea_popescu: going back to trading cards i guess
Bowjob: ah, kk
Chaang-Noi: i will be happy when mt gox has less than 105 market share
Bowjob: it seems to be dropping like a rock
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.49456206 = 0.9891 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: lots of support in the .08 to .088 range
tiberiusiv: LTC has no liquidity at all
Bowjob: im glad to got rid of it at 0.11
Bowjob: earlier
Bowjob: i bought at 0.1 too lol
Chaang-Noi: i bought in the .002 to .003 range :)
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: yeha
Bowjob: gh
Bowjob: gj
Chaang-Noi: i did not expect what it did, and that is why i sold almost 100k of ltc
tiberiusiv: $5k has like 30% price movements
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.49700001 = 496.006 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.35270204 = 0.7054 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: but i wont sell more, in a year it will be much higher, esp if we get it listed at trade hill
kakobrekla: i made 100% on ltc in a few days as well
kakobrekla: play money but w/e
tiberiusiv: yea but what ammount 2btc?
Bowjob: well btc will be much higher too
kakobrekla: i was out yesterday
Bowjob: so cant go wrong
kakobrekla: i have 0
kakobrekla: tiberiusiv a bit more
kakobrekla: not much
kakobrekla: again, play money
kakobrekla: imho ltc is going to be dead
kakobrekla: by end of 2013
tiberiusiv: why would ltc go anywhere? it just offers nothing
kakobrekla: it will go alright
kakobrekla: in the grave
Chaang-Noi: lol ltc is a scam like btc right?
tiberiusiv: how many google clones have done well?
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv the one reasonable explanation i heard so far is arbitraring bitcoin testing
kakobrekla: Chaang-Noi its not useful over btc
kakobrekla: Chaang-Noi the usefullnes is zero
Chaang-Noi: when btc is forked it sure is:)
tiberiusiv: bit more what?
mircea_popescu: ie, they have free testing, stuff like the berkley db etc
imsaguy: litecoin isn't a bitcoin test
imsaguy: testnet is a bitcoin test
mjr_: dude did you guys hear about berlusconi?
tiberiusiv: oh price
mircea_popescu: imsaguy no, bitcoin is litecoin's testcoin
Chaang-Noi: bitcoin is a ltc test:)
imsaguy: mjr_: did you ask if we cared?
mjr_: imsaguy: sorry, do you care?
imsaguy: no.
Chaang-Noi: ltc is bitcoins backup
kakobrekla: lol
mircea_popescu: mjr_ what about him ?
mjr_: figured that was a rhetorical question
tiberiusiv: the litecoin people dont understand that ASICs increase ltc difficulty as well
Chaang-Noi: btc has forked or too many transactions, use ltc:)
mjr_: mircea_popescu: 4 million a month in alimony
kakobrekla: if btc fails, lts will be worth -10
mircea_popescu: hahaha lire ?
mjr_: dollars
mircea_popescu: lol gtfo. to how manywomen ?
tiberiusiv: as less efficient miners drop out of bitcoin, they increase ltc difficulty
mjr_: his wife said: it would be more dignified to stop here...i can't stay with a man who consorts with minors
mjr_: after he attended an 18 year old models birthday party
Chaang-Noi: making ltcs network strong help move the price up
mjr_: like, sure, cheat on me...but please do it with more age appropriate women
Chaang-Noi: how many times did he see her before 18? lol
mjr_: no clue
mjr_: just crazy though
mircea_popescu: when i'm 70 i'll prolly be doing 17 yos too
Bowjob: drop to 0.008
mircea_popescu: it's an old man thing
Bowjob: mp you catholic?
mircea_popescu: nope
tiberiusiv: if bitcoin fails that will be the end of crypto for a decade +
Bowjob: k i thought it was just a cathloic thing
Bowjob: lol
mircea_popescu: lol
tiberiusiv: no it doesnt
mjr_: tiberiusiv: i think that its biggest threat is something better
kakobrekla: no, they handle the boys Bowjob
tiberiusiv: thats a complete myth chaang
mjr_: and if that happens, it will be that new thing
Bowjob: why is it always boys
mircea_popescu: Bowjob the fact is, the way the human body works first pregnancy should be delivered around 18 years of age.
Bowjob: i dont get it
mircea_popescu: so...
kakobrekla: cause we are sexy w/o the makeup
tiberiusiv: ltc was made so people who cant afford to invest into equip can continue "mining"
mircea_popescu: Bowjob i think it's girls with berlusconi neh ?
Bowjob: who
Bowjob: oh that guy
Bowjob: but hes not catholic priest
tiberiusiv: the problem is that BTC asics increase litecoin difficulty
tiberiusiv: making the ltc benefit void
mircea_popescu: this conversation is layered in such a way...
kakobrekla: :D
imsaguy: jurov, when's hte big payday?
Bowjob: litecoin dropping like a bitch
tiberiusiv: mircea: do you think coinlab succeeds?
mircea_popescu: what's your definition of succes ?
Chaang-Noi: age of consent here is 15, 18 is getting on the old side for the culture here
Chaang-Noi: ltc did not even hit that resistance at .088 i told you about
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: SEC investigation
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.49154267 = 0.9831 BTC [+]
imsaguy: every good startup has one.
Bowjob: what resistance i dont see it
Chaang-Noi: it is still there
Bowjob: were down to 0.0087, no resistance
kakobrekla: hehe
tiberiusiv: large client base?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.49252684 = 491.5418 BTC [+]
Bowjob: its at 0.0082
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1641662#msg1641662
kakobrekla: cause its useless
Chaang-Noi: it fell faster than i expected
mircea_popescu: I am Chunyan 22 years old from China http://www.girlsfromasia.ru/
mircea_popescu: totally.
mjr_: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 54.64859, Best ask: 54.99989, Bid-ask spread: 0.35130, Last trade: 54.64859, 24 hour volume: 94878.61374780, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.40729
Chaang-Noi: <Bowjob> its at 0.0082 ---- what??
Chaang-Noi: Last Price: 0.00909 BTC
Chaang-Noi: Low: 0.0085 BTC
Chaang-Noi: High: 0.013 BTC
Chaang-Noi: you from 2 weeks ago?
Bowjob: no i mean the support
Bowjob: 400 BTC support at 0.0082
Chaang-Noi: ahh
Bowjob: imo take the profits and run
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6273 @ 0.00075833 = 4.757 BTC [-]
Bowjob: you cant go wrong either way
Chaang-Noi: like 800 btc to get to .008
Bowjob: then when that support is down, its all downhil
Bowjob: buy cheaper
Bowjob: lol
kakobrekla: someone said tradehill?
Chaang-Noi: i took some profit, i made like 600% even if i lose everything else i hold, im not worried
kakobrekla: oh no, it was downhill.
Bowjob: this is highly lucrative
Bowjob: heh
Chaang-Noi: 90k ltc dump to get to .008, i wont do it
Chaang-Noi: i fear i wont get it back
pgp: tradehill lesson - don't write check with your mouth that you butt can't cash
kakobrekla: ofc not
kakobrekla: cause its useless
Chaang-Noi: yeah btc was useless after 1.5 years too
kakobrekla: yeah and now is useful cause we didnt have btc
kakobrekla: :)
Chaang-Noi: when btc is forked you dont have btc now either:)
kakobrekla: ..
Chaang-Noi: ill sell more ltc once this may 15th stuff is over
Chaang-Noi: cuz if tehy fuck up btc lol
kakobrekla: i see litecoin is somewhat like debian
kakobrekla: stable means all developers have been dead for years
Bowjob: My stupid friend is now kicking himself for not buying BTC at 17
Chaang-Noi: if it works it works, btc is ltcs test coin
kakobrekla: Bowjob tell him he will be kickin himself later for not buying at 55
Bowjob: everytime it goes up, he says... BTC will go down. when BTC goes down, he says BTC will go down further
Bowjob: tahts his reasoning every fucking time
Bowjob: from 17 to 55
kakobrekla: i hear that a lot
Chaang-Noi: i told freinds and family to buy at 3.5 never said shit again
Bowjob: i gave hima heads up at the flash crash
Chaang-Noi: people slowly come back and be like, still good time to but,
Bowjob: he said btc will die
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.4857348 BTC [-]
Bowjob: so he could buy
pgp: the 'hill is back up...
Chaang-Noi: yup
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49193244 = 491.4405 BTC [+]
pgp: i wonder, do you think that they are just running a gox shadow book?
Bowjob: I told him since he's such a sensitive guy, I can sell him $100 worth of bitcoins
Bowjob: for 1.81 BTC
pgp: when the connection to gox dies - so does their "prime" order book
Bowjob: he wants to buy 5 BTC now, and pretend he got them at "$20 each"
mircea_popescu: pgp now this is an interestinfg observatiob
mircea_popescu: n*
Bowjob: im like, lol nope
kakobrekla: stabinthefacehill
pgp: either they are the worst technologists ever or they are relying on third party
kakobrekla: its prime, ya know.
mircea_popescu: certainly the 2nd seems plausible.
mircea_popescu: 1st being a certainty.
pgp: lol
Bowjob: chang, is that yours the 374 BTC sell
Bowjob: at 0.0094
Chaang-Noi: no
Chaang-Noi: and that 500 btc wall is down
jurov: mjr_ yes i'm here, pm me
jurov: and sorry for mpex.coinbr.com problem, forgot to update the configs :/
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 55
gribble: There are currently 2255.5627 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 124055.895521 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
Chaang-Noi: wall is falling faster than i expected
pgp: that is exactly what they are doing... they are showing the gox book $.55 worse... lol...
mircea_popescu: lmao
pgp: I'd call that a scam, unless, of course, it's "free" to trade with them, in which case they are embedding the gox commission in their prices. In any case, their pathetic relaunched "website" has no information on fees...
mircea_popescu: pgp im quoting this.
pgp: be my guest
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48888954 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3127 @ 0.00075423 = 2.3585 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00076039 = 4.5243 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3539 @ 0.00076091 = 2.6929 BTC [+]
pgp: go to bitfinex for the proof
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/children-and-their-delusions-today-jared-kenna-and-ryan-singer/#comment-92405
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49044849 = 489.958 BTC [+]
pgp: yep - tradehill is offering gox at a 1.0% markup
Bowjob: misspelled gavin's last name
mircea_popescu: haha indeed. thansk
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
Bowjob: np
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 55
gribble: There are currently 2388.2445 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 131351.566213 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.2296 seconds
Bowjob: wall is falling down
Bowjob: btc-e trollbox are now patting each other's back at BTC's downfall
Bowjob: and LTC's rise
Bowjob: "coinman1980: when ltc eventually gets media attention btc will suffer"
mircea_popescu: lolk
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48338803 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49015205 = 489.6619 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8649 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01498 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.01499 = 0.2099 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 150 @ 0.0049 = 0.735 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.015 = 0.075 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.016 = 0.08 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.017 BTC [+]
Bowjob: This is what "enlightened" 14 year olds think about bitcoin
Bowjob: http://lurkerfaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/65241750/
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0175 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00071 = 0.071 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.105 = 0.84 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: As a currency for purchasing power, I grew up with the US dollar so I'm used to having stability enforced by people way more powerful than myself. If I were stuck using certain other national currencies, I would probably be more inclined to appreciate bitcoin's efforts. Especially if that currency was subject to BS levels of printing printing printing.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.4748 = 0.9496 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: sounds legit.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8649 BTC [+]
BitHub: i seen asicminer selling for 1btc on bitcointalk forums
Chaang-Noi: links??
Chaang-Noi: cuz i have a few to sell :)
Bowjob: asicminer going for 1 BTC means
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.0099 = 0.0297 BTC [-]
Bowjob: that someone is expecting asicminer to make more than 400k BTC?
BitHub: cant be bothered searching for it
Bowjob: thats scary
BitHub: its in there somewhere
BitHub: TradeFortress Auction? i think
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.0099 = 0.198 BTC [-]
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 54.70013, Best ask: 54.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04987, Last trade: 54.70000, 24 hour volume: 95343.84225840, 24 hour low: 47.41103, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.52650
Chaang-Noi: iv been very active on asicminer threads on the form and im going to call bs on the 1btc thing
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48741637 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: maybe someone offered it at that but not many trades will have been done at that price
BitHub: 50 shares i believe
Chaang-Noi: ill belive 1 50 share block at that price, but its too high...
Chaang-Noi: wall at 55 is getting ibgger :/
kakobrekla: why you sad
kakobrekla: LITECOIN!!!
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 54.70001, Best ask: 54.89998, Bid-ask spread: 0.19997, Last trade: 54.89999, 24 hour volume: 95603.50817862, 24 hour low: 47.41103, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.53990
Chaang-Noi: lol, im happy ltc:)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.48926344 = 488.7742 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01334 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: !l m s.dice
assbot: Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0051 BTC [+]
Bowjob: someone lost 400 BTC on dice 12 hrs ago
Bowjob: thats... idk lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48666662 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.4874894 BTC [+]
Bowjob: http://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/
Bowjob: I believe the trollbox is in stage 1. It can be remedied if LTC stops falling like a brick.
Chaang-Noi: anyone know if one could get a phD after an MBA?
Chaang-Noi: or have to get a different type of masters?
Bowjob: whoa. theymos is 21 years old?? WTf
Chaang-Noi: yeah
Bowjob: i thought hes an old dude
Chaang-Noi: nope
Bowjob: im just 1 year younger than him lol
Chaang-Noi: one of the reasons why no one expects much of him
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.4874894 = 486.5144 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: well that explains a lot.
Chaang-Noi: kako did not know that?
kakobrekla: nope
Chaang-Noi: i think its why the forum staff is so yoing and trollish
kakobrekla: bitcoin is buncha kids with money for sure
kakobrekla: but didnt know twas dat bad
Chaang-Noi: yeah.... it is
Chaang-Noi: i was thinking and a few years tehre are going to be all these millionarie 20 eyar olds
kakobrekla: like richie riches
kakobrekla: with their own mcdonalds
kakobrekla: n stuff
Bowjob: yah me
Bowjob: thinking of a black lambo
Chaang-Noi: many will sell out after geting 100% return, like some people did with ltc :)
Bowjob: im up by 5x, almost
kakobrekla: with time, institutions will hold most btc
Bowjob: riding this bull to the top
Chaang-Noi: honestly if i get a lot of money i wont really buy anything, i will travel a bit more
Chaang-Noi: want has go to anartica
Bowjob: when my holdings are worth more than a country's entier gdp, the world is my playground
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48443619 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.48483624 = 484.3514 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: why all these 75 puts?
kakobrekla: > usagi: The company owns it. Essentially, since I am liable for it, I own it.
kakobrekla: liable for silver but not cpa debt
kakobrekla: kinda strange isnt it
Chaang-Noi: i dont even try
kakobrekla: >and I'm sure once you get on track with how we operate you will understand it. Until then, rest assured that everything is okay here.
kakobrekla: is this some sort of a fan club?
Chaang-Noi: no idea
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.8649 = 19.0278 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [-]
mjr_: ok, i have not seen one mention of bitcoin being either traded or used to fund accounts on etoro
mjr_: they have blogged about it a little
mjr_: but there is no mention of them accepting it or allowing you to trade it
kakobrekla: it will be traded as cfd
kakobrekla: is all
mjr_: ok...where is the link where i can see that pair?
kakobrekla: not yet
mjr_: its not under commodity or currency...did they do a press release or something?
kakobrekla: it was bloged
mjr_: well...i am sure they are interested in doing it, but i was hoping for an announcement
mjr_: also...i am not sure how you offer a CFD in the US
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 55
gribble: There are currently 2625.7187 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 144414.136288 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.7392 seconds
mjr_: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/04/09/another-market-not-available-to-u-s-citizens/
kakobrekla: lul
kakobrekla: us is fucked
mjr_: so yeah...US sucks
mjr_: not allowed to do CFD
kakobrekla: i told before
kakobrekla: bitcoiners should move to yurop
mjr_: or south america
mjr_: i was wondering what the bitcoin evnironment was like in the philippines
Diablo-D3: europe is falling apart anyhow
mjr_: they have a huge market for remittances
kakobrekla: Diablo-D3 thats the beauty of it
Diablo-D3: how does that have any beauty?
Diablo-D3: remember the riots in greece?
Diablo-D3: thats going to happen in every city in every country now
kakobrekla: what about them
kakobrekla: we have them for a while now too
kakobrekla: so fuckin what
Diablo-D3: they burned half of greece down, dude
kakobrekla: they nuked parliament here
Diablo-D3: wheres here?
kakobrekla: slovenia
Diablo-D3: thats a real country?
kakobrekla: no, NSK is real
Diablo-D3: at any rate, I havent seen any news about slovenia
Diablo-D3: but I dont doubt it
Diablo-D3: but wait until it starts happening in germany
Diablo-D3: and berlin gets burned to the ground
kakobrekla: you have no clue whats happenin here
Diablo-D3: then you will understand what I mean by "europe is fucked"
kakobrekla: germany is doing just fine
Diablo-D3: germany WILLL do just fine if they exit the EU now
Diablo-D3: and issue their own currency
kakobrekla: diablo tokens.
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 55
gribble: There are currently 2559.549 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 140775.164133 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
mjr_: germany switches to bitcoin
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01959 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.019599 = 0.784 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01966 = 0.1966 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 239 @ 0.01985 = 4.7442 BTC [+]
Diablo-D3: mjr_: unlikely
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.01988 = 0.7952 BTC [+]
mjr_: lol it was a joke
mjr_: did not think that was likely
chmod755: iceland should switch to bitcoin
chmod755: it's a small country with many internet users
mjr_: iceland dealt with their credit issues in a great way for their people
mjr_: more people should have followed their example
Diablo-D3: I agree
Diablo-D3: iceland won
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [-]
Diablo-D3: they crashed the banks and press the reset button
mjr_: that is what should happen
mjr_: you lent money to a bad risk
mjr_: that is your fault not mine
mjr_: it is basically predatory lending when you let someone borrow 10x their income and networth
Chaang-Noi: wall is taking hits
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 55
gribble: There are currently 1883.3806 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 103577.890673 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.7350 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 55
gribble: There are currently 1883.3806 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 103577.890673 USD in total. | Data vintage: 71.5866 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00075897 = 11.2707 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: less than 1k now
kakobrekla: bfl miner first testing
kakobrekla: http://www.blogiseverything.com/files/pics/usb_powered_cooking_pan_small.jpg
Chaang-Noi: and 55 is gone
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 56
gribble: There are currently 1954.0553 bitcoins offered at or under 56.0 USD, worth 108167.701023 USD in total. | Data vintage: 88.7404 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 60
gribble: There are currently 14347.373 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 839553.401471 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.1760 seconds
pgp: ;;goxlag
gribble: 5.38259 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ''ticker
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 55.66000, Best ask: 55.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 55.66000, 24 hour volume: 102733.91362795, 24 hour low: 47.50002, 24 hour high: 56.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.91918
pgp: and the hill is down again...
ThickAsThieves: next stop, $50 or $60?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.47606017 BTC [-]
Bugpowder: ThickAsThieves: $60
Bugpowder: won't take long
Bugpowder: cyprusssss
ThickAsThieves: but theres bound to be some selloffs
pgp: ;;goxlag
gribble: 0 seconds
Chaang-Noi: 56 did not last long at all
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 57
gribble: There are currently 955.56252 bitcoins offered at or under 57.0 USD, worth 54006.2376327 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 60
gribble: There are currently 12557.116 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 741836.013873 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.1822 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;bids 56
gribble: There are currently 12071.718 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 677336.979852 USD in total. | Data vintage: 31.4974 seconds
Chaang-Noi: just as many bids over 56 as asks to 60, jesus h christ
Chaang-Noi: ;;bids 56
gribble: There are currently 12071.718 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 677336.979852 USD in total. | Data vintage: 92.4568 seconds
kakobrekla: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png
mod6: damn
BUGPOWDER: holy sheet
kakobrekla: hehe
BUGPOWDER: look at that ask wall
BUGPOWDER: ;;asks 56
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 56.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.0772 seconds
BUGPOWDER: bid
BUGPOWDER: ;;bids 56
gribble: There are currently 369.55094 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 20755.939292 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.8987 seconds
BUGPOWDER: ok
BUGPOWDER: its gone
Chaang-Noi: they took the wall down
Chaang-Noi: but it waws there
BUGPOWDER: I guess he is just gonna buy it
BUGPOWDER: that wall would never work anyway
Chaang-Noi: 56.9
BUGPOWDER: people would just buy over it
BUGPOWDER: unless there was a big dump
BUGPOWDER: actually it might work
BUGPOWDER: Yah, I think we hit $60 within the hour
jurov: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 56.90000 U.S. dollars = 43.9925777 Euros
BUGPOWDER: "Theymos I am a 21-year-old computer science student from Wisconsin."
BUGPOWDER: wat?
BUGPOWDER: Is he just trolling people?
BUGPOWDER: 57.50
BUGPOWDER: $60
BUGPOWDER: !
kakobrekla: no and hashking is 13
mod6: lol
BUGPOWDER: $60.29
Chaang-Noi: that wall was not sold into, he took it down
kakobrekla: what are we just spitting out random numbers now?
kakobrekla: 30242.31
BUGPOWDER: no
BUGPOWDER: thats the price
BUGPOWDER: of bitcoin
BUGPOWDER: now
Chaang-Noi: bugpowder last i heard he was 20, so it checks out
BUGPOWDER: he market bought with the wall
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: 21.857546 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 56.75001, Best ask: 56.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12999, Last trade: 56.75001, 24 hour volume: 104957.41050327, 24 hour low: 47.51000, 24 hour high: 57.00000, 24 hour vwap: 51.04947
kakobrekla: ah ok
BUGPOWDER: clark moody caught it
Chaang-Noi: kakobreka is hashking really 13? i thought that was just a joke
kakobrekla: sorry for jumping on ya.
mod6: last $60.09
kakobrekla: Chaang-Noi yeah we thought so too
mjr_: lol
Chaang-Noi: oh lol, i should have known when he called me a scammer for not paying him dividends on my bonds cuz he had already sold them... lolol btcland
mjr_: tradehill has one order to sell at $3000
mjr_: ;;goxlag
gribble: 34.77577 seconds
mjr_: dayum
pgp: jesus!
Chaang-Noi: jesus fuck
Chaang-Noi: 62
pgp: this is some crazy shit
kakobrekla: Chaang-Noi hows litecoin doin
Chaang-Noi: well atleast that wall at 60 is gone, a small one at 64
BUGPOWDER: Glad I bought those calls
Chaang-Noi: kakobreka .0095 so up esp considering btc is moving uup
kakobrekla: lol
BUGPOWDER: I think 62 is a bad print
kakobrekla: yeah
kakobrekla: nmc is also up concidering btc
kakobrekla: so great!
pgp: $1 spread
Chaang-Noi: ;;ask 60
gribble: Error: "ask" is not a valid command.
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 60
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 79.4836 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 70
gribble: There are currently 15933.287 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 1064561.16994 USD in total. | Data vintage: 84.4513 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 62
gribble: There are currently 48.927719 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 2985.0757865 USD in total. | Data vintage: 95.8431 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;asks 65
gribble: There are currently 6238.7322 bitcoins offered at or under 65.0 USD, worth 397953.724648 USD in total. | Data vintage: 100.6715 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: 68.980126 seconds
BUGPOWDER: hmm... maybe it did hit it, I never saw that trade happen though
ThickAsThieves: dang
mod6: yeah it says it hit 62.0
Chaang-Noi: well 54 coins are offered at or under 62
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 62
gribble: There are currently 1060.2704 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 64880.7926418 USD in total. | Data vintage: 108.6023 seconds
Chaang-Noi: well now more...
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: 81.443292 seconds
mjr_: wow $3 cheaper on bitfloor
Chaang-Noi: 2013-03-19 11:02:23 to 2013-03-19 11:12:23: Avg price: 58.566 (56.200 to 62.000) Total volume: 8586.48399, Cumulative cost: 511324.00000 Buy volume: 7933.77667 (473468.31 USD), Sell volume: 652.70731 (37856.53 USD) Ratio: 12.15518 ( 12.51)
ThickAsThieves: falling fast
ThickAsThieves: 58.5
Chaang-Noi: 1/2 million fiat dump in 10 mins
mjr_: ;;goxlag
gribble: 114.508129 seconds
mjr_: almost two minutes now
ThickAsThieves: i have a live coinlab connection
ThickAsThieves: for now...
ThickAsThieves: 60.20
ThickAsThieves: 57
pgp: and now for some reality
Chaang-Noi: $4 spread
ThickAsThieves: its jumping around
Chaang-Noi: buy at 62 sell at 56 lol
Chaang-Noi: $6 spread i mean
ThickAsThieves: shit i think itll stabilize
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21367 @ 0.0007343 = 15.6898 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4783 @ 0.00073344 = 3.508 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: 111.972092 seconds
pgp: ;;goxlag
gribble: 107.616952 seconds
ThickAsThieves: 59.8
Chaang-Noi: so much for 47.5 is the new 5
pgp: ;;goxlag
gribble: 121.500977 seconds
pgp: ;;goxlag
gribble: 135.48409 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.829 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.828 = 1.656 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8222 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8221 = 8.221 BTC [-]
pgp: ;;goxlag
gribble: 122.409422 seconds
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
gribble: 29.120795 seconds
Chaang-Noi: 57 to 62 to 57 lol
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 62
gribble: There are currently 4093.7415 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 248124.847411 USD in total. | Data vintage: 92.1101 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;bids 57
gribble: There are currently 106.35268 bitcoins demanded at or over 57.0 USD, worth 6093.23499578 USD in total. | Data vintage: 104.3026 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;bids 56
gribble: There are currently 1398.1248 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 78641.1004811 USD in total. | Data vintage: 109.2912 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;bids 55
gribble: There are currently 3118.6452 bitcoins demanded at or over 55.0 USD, worth 173403.849411 USD in total. | Data vintage: 114.0207 seconds
mjr_: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.56000, Best ask: 57.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 57.61000, 24 hour volume: 122812.31066450, 24 hour low: 47.51000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.26281
mjr_: ;;calc (52.26281-41)/52.26281
gribble: 0.215503337842
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 21 @ 0.2 = 4.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16002 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: ;;goxlag
gribble: 0 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.2309 = 2.309 BTC [+]
benkay: fifty seven!
benkay: i wake up to this nonsense.
benkay: every day.
Chaang-Noi: total bid: 7,756,029 USD | total ask: 52,027 BTC | ratio: 149.08 USD/BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.004231 = 0.2116 BTC [-]
benkay: and goodness i see we were trading all the way up to 62
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: benkay yeah, massive walls down in one go, this is a correction to that, we will be up to 65 shortly, make sure your seatbelts are on
assbot: [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 8 @ 0.2 = 1.6 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;asks 40
gribble: There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.0844 seconds
benkay: heh.
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 59
gribble: There are currently 14.925743 bitcoins offered at or under 59.0 USD, worth 880.61884113 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 62
gribble: There are currently 4151.5081 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 251811.333797 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.3287 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;bids 55
gribble: There are currently 4312.4797 bitcoins demanded at or over 55.0 USD, worth 240297.179135 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.6690 seconds
Chaang-Noi: nice
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8647 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.295 BTC [-]
benkay: is there a market cap command?
Chaang-Noi: no but its like 10900000 time 58
Chaang-Noi: so around 600 million
benkay: i'm more interested in plotting asicminer mktcap over time
benkay: ;;asks 100
gribble: There are currently 38868.333 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2888163.25634 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
benkay: asks 200
benkay: ;;asks 200
gribble: There are currently 42540.219 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 3435013.85974 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.0105 seconds
unbalanced: benkay: market cap is visible at http://www.bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/
benkay: thanks unbalanced, i'm more interested in mktcap on a per-asset basis
benkay: has anyone done any work on the performance of bitcoin assets relative to bit coin?
deadweasel: holding BTC is better unless you are extremely plugged into the assets you are buying selling. for the average bitcoiner, anyhow.
jcpham: hooooooooooooooooooooolf
jcpham: for a long long time
jcpham: for a long long time
deadweasel: assets, you mean?
deadweasel: i'm holding some for a long long time. just as an experimento
benkay: deadweasel i have a hunch you're right
benkay: but
benkay: "in god we trust. all others must bring data."
deadweasel: true, I have run no numbers on that. It's my gut feeling.
deadweasel: i'm fairly sure I could make the data say what I want it to say, if I really tried, so I just go with my gut
deadweasel: data doesn't lie, but people do. :)
benkay: i like charting things
benkay: more accurately, charting stuff is a thing that i like to do
deadweasel: how is that more accurate?
benkay: fun_things.append(charting)
benkay: don't hold me to that
deadweasel: lol.stuff()
benkay: i'm sitting on a train and the coffee place is closed
assbot: [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [-]
deadweasel: well, grab price history and build a scenario tool and see if you can get historical data on assets and get busy!
deadweasel: i'm curious
benkay: too busy building real thing
benkay: only making charts that i need to make
deadweasel: reminds me, I need to do some work. thx!
benkay: price history for asicminer does not return on time invested have at the moment
benkay: don't do it
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 226774 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1033 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 7 hours, 8 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6214082.21368 | Estimated Percent Change: 28.18759
kakobrekla: there ya go Enky
benkay: ?
TomServo: 28%?! Yikes.
pgp: 7.38 minutes avg between blocks...
pgp: lots of hardware came online in the last 9 days...
deadweasel: gotta get it back to 10
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
gribble: 21.865695 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073866 = 4.2842 BTC [+]
deadweasel: ;;ticker --last
gribble: 56.89000
pgp: 55 gone
mjr_: that was a fun ride
pigeons: anyone heard from topace?
topace__: hi
deadweasel: howdy
topace__: weird routing issue
topace__: cant figure it out
topace__: soemone traceroute 198.41.28.231 for me ?
jcpham: i lose the route at hop 32... looks like jupiter or uranus
topace__: 6 border1-faste2-0.magma.ca (209.217.64.38) 46.098 ms 24.215 ms 24.056 ms
topace__: 7 border5-faste0-0.magma.ca (209.217.64.42) 25.576 ms 27.031 ms 28.733 ms
topace__: 8 198.32.235.40 (198.32.235.40) 30.663 ms 32.602 ms 33.566 ms
topace__: 9 173-195-50.214.tel-ott.com (173.195.50.214) 42.963 ms 45.431 ms 46.764 ms
topace__: 10 198.41.28.231 (198.41.28.231) 48.645 ms 50.038 ms 51.511 ms
topace__: should come in like that
topace__: which it does for me from my office
topace__: but from othe rlocations, its crapping out somewhere as well
deadweasel: hop 13, after 38.122.68.178
deadweasel: for me
topace__: yea thast the IP it stops on for me from one of my other servers
topace__: how do you tell customers "the server is fine, its just the routing thats fucked up"
topace__: when most customers say "whats a server? whats a route?"
TomServo: topace__: You tell them to contact their ISP and provide them the last hop.
kakobrekla: you say server is us, route is you
kakobrekla: we = ok, you = fucked.
deadweasel: if my experience with bitcoin business is of any value, you should ignore the customer until the issue is fixed
pigeons: i hear it all the time one way or another as "it works on my box" usually from the developer
deadweasel: then possibly continue ignoring after said fixing
deadweasel: "it works in my local environment"
deadweasel: fuck your local environment
topace__: oh mmm 38.122.68.178 is my data center...
deadweasel: lol topace__
TomServo: haha
topace__: wonder why traceroute doesnt go through that when i traceroute from my office
topace__: must be coming in on a different network
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: 69.287552 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 55.01000, Best ask: 55.44999, Bid-ask spread: 0.43999, Last trade: 55.00000, 24 hour volume: 131954.29179881, 24 hour low: 47.52100, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.64803
BUGPOWDER: here comes the bounce...
topace__: this might be 100% unrelated to the new switch i just installed yesterday, or it might be 100% because of the new switch
topace__: lol
pigeons: :)
topace__: but if the switch went in yesterday, why only fail this morning
deadweasel: is it a managed switch? did you configure it?
pigeons: needed to warm up
topace__: ye amanged switch
topace__: catalyst 2960
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 0.8645 = 13.832 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22127 @ 0.00073344 = 16.2288 BTC [-]
topace__: okay now traceroute to 198.41.28.228
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8644 = 1.7288 BTC [-]
topace__: (or .231)
deadweasel: hops right through the server
topace__: fucking data center
pigeons: site is working
topace__: excellent
deadweasel: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 56.64000, Best ask: 56.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 56.98000, 24 hour volume: 134791.46988100, 24 hour low: 47.54000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.73807
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
topace__: !ticker h sdice
gribble: 63.835124 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.53010000 / 0.53168333 / 0.53200000 (6 shares, 3.19010000 BTC), 7D: 0.50030000 / 0.52350856 / 0.59999900 (1197 shares, 626.63975002 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.59492594 / 0.75100000 (5740 shares, 3414.87486892 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00073744 = 6.8951 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: !l m s.dice
assbot: Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0051 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: !l m s.bbet
assbot: Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.0018 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9537 @ 0.00073344 = 6.9948 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4663 @ 0.00073285 = 3.4173 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.515 = 1.03 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00901 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.009 = 0.045 BTC [-]
smickles: "< mircea_popescu> miscounted them digits" << I made it easier to read $depth <asset> now
kakobrekla: ascii chart?
jurov: $depth s.mpoe
mpexbot: jurov: Bids: ['2462 @ 0.00073285', '41300 @ 0.00071998', '1590 @ 0.00071886', '32459 @ 0.00068249', '25000 @ 0.000675']
mpexbot: jurov: Asks: ['5074 @ 0.00073744', '5400 @ 0.00074837', '3950 @ 0.00075897', '13911 @ 0.00076091', '29878 @ 0.00076717']
jurov: $markov is it fixed
mpexbot: jurov: (markov [<channel>] [word1 [word2]]) -- Returns a randomly-generated Markov Chain generated sentence from the data kept on <channel> (which is only necessary if not sent in the channel itself). If word1 and word2 are specified, they will be used to start the Markov chain.
jurov: $markov "is it fixed"
mpexbot: jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2462 @ 0.00073285 = 1.8043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00071998 = 29.7352 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550N] 6 @ 0.34032895 = 2.042 BTC
kakobrekla: $markov rofl
mpexbot: kakobrekla: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
kakobrekla: $markov you fail
mpexbot: kakobrekla: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.
kakobrekla: or what
jurov: btw, it should consider first parameter a chan only if it begins with #
kakobrekla: its kinda rand(){return 4;} here
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 55.90000, Best ask: 56.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 56.00000, 24 hour volume: 142528.78744713, 24 hour low: 47.55000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.90602
kakobrekla: !exchanges bungeegum
jurov: !ticker m s.ponzi
assbot: Your actions are useless.
kakobrekla: !ticker glbse ppt.a
assbot: I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
kakobrekla: !ticker GLBSE ppt.e
assbot: I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
kakobrekla: eh
kakobrekla: !last GLBSE ppt.e
assbot: Last trade for PPT.E on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: !last GLBSE ppt.a
assbot: Last trade for PPT.A on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: hm
kakobrekla: !last GLBSE ppt.b
assbot: Last trade for PPT.B on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: kinda strange
jurov: maybe it fails when no recent data
jurov: anyway, better error messages would be helpful
kakobrekla: no its not a fail
kakobrekla: !last GLBSE fake
assbot: How can I be of assistance, my poor man?
jurov: !fail
kakobrekla: see
assbot: i dont fail
kakobrekla: see
jurov: so when i name the exchange right, assbot is polite?
kakobrekla: lol
kakobrekla: assbot is polite all the time
pigeons: !last GLBSE SATOSHISDAEMON.horse
assbot: Have you got any tobacco?
jborkl: smickles, you around
kakobrekla: i might not have that.
kakobrekla: cause too old
kakobrekla: not sure
jurov: !ticker btct bitvps
assbot: [BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0038 / 0.00473 / 0.00688 (350 shares, 1.7 BTC), 30D: 0.00341 / 0.00438 / 0.00689 (1105 shares, 4.8 BTC)
kakobrekla: meat: http://coinbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ee74sd-300x224.jpg
jurov: dunno where it ended
kakobrekla: on a 10k pizza as horse salami
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00672 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.00671 = 0.0201 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 37 @ 0.006 = 0.222 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0059 = 0.59 BTC [-]
jurov: oh, list of biggest btc luminaries: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.msg1642658#msg1642658
bungeegum: i'll be back later. thank you kakobrekla for the info :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 201 @ 0.00585 = 1.1759 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: yw bungeegum
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.67786, Best ask: 57.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21214, Last trade: 57.67785, 24 hour volume: 143463.25501478, 24 hour low: 47.60000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.94004
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 57.67786, Best ask: 57.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21214, Last trade: 57.67785, 24 hour volume: 143463.25501478, 24 hour low: 47.60000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.94004
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: 0.542955 seconds
kakobrekla: 250 paraipan
kakobrekla: 250 Garr255
kakobrekla: 500 OgNasty
kakobrekla: ROFL
kakobrekla: someone should just send him to s.dice
jurov: kakobrekla, how do you feel about a bet "At least one of bitcointalk treasurers will get scammer tag by...dunno when "
jurov: 1st July?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1590 @ 0.00071886 = 1.143 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: i feel good about it but i dont approve that stuff
kakobrekla: nah more
kakobrekla: by end 2013
jurov: okay
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.985 = 3.97 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 2 = 12 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 226787 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 1020 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 5 hours, 32 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6217631.41098 | Estimated Percent Change: 28.26081