Bowjob: it should have 195 BTC on that address, not 169
Bowjob: my electrum says 195..
Bowjob: this transaction doesnt make sense, I only spent 56 BTC here
dub: every other bash quote is from some homo efnet oper
dub: its a fucking circlejerk
B0g4r7_: Bowjob, the rest got sent to a "balance address".
Bowjob: whats a balance address
Bowjob: fyi, I only used 1 address ^
B0g4r7_: I'm not entirely clear on it. I think it happens when it needs to split funds or something.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin financial elite steals from ordinary users by redirecting some random % of some txs
B0g4r7_: It gets sent to a newly-generated address that then gets placed i your wallet.
B0g4r7_: The ppl in #bitcoin-dev would know better.
Bowjob: eh.. i dont understand lol
mircea_popescu: Bowjob it's like this : you can only spend a WHOLE input.
iz: B0g4r7_: so you had 82.308 in a single bitcoin address, and you wanted to spend 56.82.. so 56.82 goes to where you want to spend it, and then 25.48 comes back in change to one of your new randomly generated wallet addresses
mircea_popescu: like, if you have 50 btc, the next time you spend ANY btc yougotta spend the whole 50
mircea_popescu: the way this works in practice is that you send however much to who you owe
Bowjob: but.. one thing I don't get.. where is that 25 BTC sent?
Bowjob: I use electrum, only 5 addys
Bowjob: I checked the rest, I don't have them
B0g4r7_: It goes to a newly-generated address in your wallet.
Bowjob: but I can't see the address?
B0g4r7_: The addresses are hidden somehow (maybe?)
Bowjob: yes, its hidden.. umm, but my total says 200 BTC
Bowjob: so it must be here, then its hidden? wtf
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00175 = 0.875 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.01100, Best ask: 36.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28900, Last trade: 36.01100, 24 hour volume: 45723.66365557, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.42630
Bowjob: 1G6evBnvqzZ3mDoxbjWivFLVzcG9JBhfXR
Bowjob: It's in this address.. I just don't see it on my client
maximian: mircea_popescu: so evoorhees will actually have to issue a dividend of 6619BTC to cover all 50,000,000 shares?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: maximian im not sure of the exact figure. how much did sdice make in feb ?
maximian: evoorhees wrote that he'll be paying 1721BTC, which I assume he calculated based on 13M shares, which works out to 0.00013238 per share
mircea_popescu: course most of it goes back to him i imagine, so it prolly works out to that
maximian: but yeah, a great way to verify income
Lyspooner: on bitbet, create a long-dated bet with a close to 50-50 outcome, bet both sides of it, take advantage of the early weighting part of the algorithm
mircea_popescu: you underwrite the marketmaker risk for a possible profit down the road.
mircea_popescu: im sure as more people figure out what's what there's going to be bookmaking of this sort, for everyone's benefit
Lyspooner: it's an interesting way to earn positive interest rates on deposits at the expense of later bettors
Bugpowder: This is what I did with the NFL bets
Bugpowder: Also set the ratio at the real moneyline
Lyspooner: i did something like that, where i just bought a bunch of bitcoins with money
Bugpowder: There is actually an optimal amount to rebet as well, against any bets that move the odds away from the line
Bugpowder: however rebetting only works well if you have set the time decay such that there is little or no decay
Bowjob: My prediction back in december
Bowjob: LTC is now at 13 cents.. da fuck is going on
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4018 @ 0.00078 = 3.134 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000781 = 7.81 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00078284 = 2.6617 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.0055001 = 3.3001 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.01300, Best ask: 36.33600, Bid-ask spread: 0.32300, Last trade: 36.01300, 24 hour volume: 46753.53869852, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.45420
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.07110, Best ask: 36.33000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25890, Last trade: 36.07110, 24 hour volume: 46733.12002181, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.45680
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 65 @ 0.0059 = 0.3835 BTC [+]
Bowjob: the electrum irc is useless
Bowjob: everyone there is in limbo
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4001 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 5 @ 0.18595405 = 0.9298 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.595 = 2.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] [PAID] 6,621.40925 BTC to 50`000`000 shares, 13242 satoshi per share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.4000101 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 15 @ 1.40001001 = 21.0002 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34499 = 0.69 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1620 @ 0.005967 = 9.6665 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: what the fucking hell it downtrends pre div and then UPTRENDS post div ?
Bugpowder: Maybe if people think he ain't gonna pay
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00596998 = 2.388 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00596999 = 11.94 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4600 @ 0.00597 = 27.462 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 619 @ 0.00598 = 3.7016 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 147 @ 0.00599999 = 0.882 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1661 @ 0.00599999 = 9.966 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.006 = 30 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00600768 = 6.0077 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7695 @ 0.00611032 = 47.0189 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3536 @ 0.00620077 = 21.9259 BTC [+]
error4733: "maybe some people reinvesting divs"
ThickAsThieves: is why it always goes up after divs, it's a testament to SDICE's allure
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00500002 / 0.00587605 / 0.00620077 (53227 shares, 312.76 BTC), 7D: 0.0048 / 0.00584889 / 0.0063799 (341165 shares, 1,995.44 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00595448 / 0.007395 (6741410 shares, 40,141.61 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 700 @ 0.0015 = 1.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5652 @ 0.00078628 = 4.4441 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1399 @ 0.00075212 = 1.0522 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16940 @ 0.00075072 = 12.7172 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2280000 @ 0.00075 = 1710 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 96 @ 0.0059 = 0.5664 BTC [+]
blu3gr1f1on: I wish betbet resolutions were as fast as s.dices.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00620076 = 1.2402 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5336 @ 0.00620077 = 33.0873 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 134464 @ 0.006225 = 837.0384 BTC [+]
the_silent_wande: because I made that bet like three hours before it got confirmed, and I really want it to not be refunded.
blu3gr1f1on: it would make you a sort of magical unicorn, able to determine outcomes of user submitted gobshite bets
blu3gr1f1on: the_silent_wande: are you the last bet for 1btc?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.6295 = 2.518 BTC [+]
blu3gr1f1on: you should not keep coins there. buy them, and MOVE THEM.
blu3gr1f1on: great way to get your hands on them. poor way to store them.
BitHub: what happened with PrimeAsic?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.6295 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.12260046 = 1122.6005 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 96 @ 0.0061 = 0.5856 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 564 @ 0.00617 = 3.4799 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.12080012 = 1120.8001 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 6 @ 0.3 = 1.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.34499 = 2.0699 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00617 = 0.617 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.22123, Best ask: 36.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17877, Last trade: 36.40000, 24 hour volume: 47630.33370173, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.51830
Chaang-Noi: wow.. i really should sleep more often
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34600 @ 0.00075 = 25.95 BTC [-]
error4733: freeroll in 20min but need 4 players to start
Bowjob: oh , i was talking about dice
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.39746, Best ask: 36.39929, Bid-ask spread: 0.00183, Last trade: 36.39930, 24 hour volume: 47668.19097261, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.52726
BitHub: hey anyone selling BTC in AUD? yeah i've tried otc
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.00078 = 0.0031 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00196 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.00196 = 0.196 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 100 @ 0.00195 = 0.195 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 30 @ 0.00195 = 0.0585 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 62067.62 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 6529233.27387 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0033 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075 = 3.75 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.16100, Best ask: 36.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18900, Last trade: 36.39999, 24 hour volume: 46677.07588137, 24 hour low: 34.19000, 24 hour high: 36.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.55065
Bowjob: just an ordinary day in bitcoinland
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00075 = 3.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11601409 = 1116.0141 BTC [-]
error4733: sorry Namworld.. i forgot about asking here... I just want so see if it's better than sealclub
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11601409 = 1116.0141 BTC [-]
dub: error4733: haven't been on there for a while, have they actually got players these days? used to be a ghost town
dub: I for one support any site that takes users away from micon
pigeons: he's the pro, he didn't own it
Chaang-Noi: okay, well who ever had it i think sold it
dub: oh, I stopped playing there because he's an assclown
[\\\]: micon never owned seals afaik
Chaang-Noi: when your paid pro gets business to stop playing lol
[\\\]: he was just a talking head
Chaang-Noi: i just remeber reading about seals being sold, i dont know by whom or to whom
pigeons: way to spread the facts ;)
Bugpowder: Seals is run by shady poker scammers
dub: I like this ssaCEO's style however, he's like the al swearengen of pr
Bugpowder: According to a friend who knows them from way back in poker land
pigeons: this channel is the no gossip express today
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11601409 = 1116.0141 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: ltc is not a btc assets but anyone know why it went up 100% in 1.5 days?
pigeons: kimdotcom is accepting it for mega and pirate will pay everyone back in ltc
[\\\]: Chaang-Noi: same reason bitcoin has gone up 5% a day for the last several weeks.
dub: I think more likely because eskimobobs ugly mug mining operation is getting underway
pigeons: i've got one of those mugs and it is gorgeous actually
pigeons: but eskimobobs ugly mug mining operation sounds better
[\\\]: its like calling a chunk of frozen tundra greenland
[\\\]: and a chunk of beautiful land iceland
pigeons: yeah i already posted pictures maybe again later
Chaang-Noi: oh, yeah if you do send link please, thanks
dub: inb4 the mug gives you aids
Chaang-Noi: lol, are we all drunk/high on caffine today? :)
pigeons: i don't think its aids, i think maybe i just have mono
Chaang-Noi: ahh, pigeons is sick, sorry to hear that man
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5815 @ 0.00074361 = 4.3241 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11362916 = 1113.6292 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00614 = 0.0307 BTC [+]
dub: srsly though a home made out of who knows what mixture of clay, mud and the feces eskimoboob probably smears all over himself
dub: poorly glazed, porous, harbouring all manner bacteria and auto-immune disease
dub: be prepared for a slow and painful death shitting yourself inside out from dysentery
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11303376 = 1113.0338 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: i been sorta watching his venture peripherally, i find the idea rather amusing
dub: well, if you are comfortable easting your cornflakes out of any random homless persons asshole then go right ahead
dub: in food hygene terms its the same thing
[\\\]: give the girl a raise
mircea_popescu: worst racket in the world, if you have no trade you're depressed, if you get trade you're worried.
mircea_popescu: dub it's amusing inasmuch as there's this new trend among the terminally retarded lefties
mircea_popescu: as fucking if a. what they did was art and b. you can make money at art w/o an elite
dub: mircea_popescu: hey if he can scrape a living out of exploiting hippies thats fine. Putting anything you plan to ingest in a home made pottery receptacle is gastric russian roulette
dub: its not my model bro
[\\\]: wait, you invested in dankbank?
dub: as long has pigeons has exploding colon insurance he'll be fine too
mircea_popescu: you know there's some vitamin that you only get by eating dirt basically ?
[\\\]: yeah, its called "vitamin stupid"
dub: firstly there's no vitamin b its a group of vitamins and you get them from lots of places
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.11124958 = 1111.2496 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: well really, some bacteria which unlike us can synthesize it
dub: eatign dirt is not a good idea, listeria is a very nasty way to die
dub: need vit. b? drink red bull you'll live longer
assbot: [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00408 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 0.65 = 9.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 91 @ 0.00614 = 0.5587 BTC [+]
BitHub: i just got some on BitFunder
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 49 @ 0.00615 = 0.3014 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i dont know the name of that other exchange :/
BitHub: this might sound really n00b but is there a way to exchange between PT's
Chaang-Noi: you could but it would be a pain in the ass
BitHub: for example say i want an asset on BF but i only have a mpex account but i could buy an asset on BF using or leveraging an asset i have on MPEX to buy that asset on BF
Namworld: Not sure I understand what you mean...
dub: havelock has just implemented that
BitHub: i dont know like i said i'm probably being a real n00b
dub: (if I understood correctly)
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34499 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00074361 / 0.00075087 / 0.00078628 (2432192 shares, 1,826.28 BTC), 7D: 0.0007147 / 0.00075245 / 0.00078628 (3534723 shares, 2,659.72 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067759 / 0.00078628 (62988367 shares, 42,680.30 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 1.1100618 = 1110.0618 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 41.20198681 / 46.0855546 (no shares, 6,242.04 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Namworld: some S.DICE-PT available for 0.00599
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.85901, Best ask: 36.89300, Bid-ask spread: 0.03399, Last trade: 36.89300, 24 hour volume: 48595.38328206, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 36.90000, 24 hour vwap: 35.65034
Namworld: what, we're already hitting 37
error4733: not fun for me, since i start in december
Namworld: I bought in at 5 USD and 10 USD
Namworld: Haven't sold, lost them to some bad "miner"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00584168 = 0.5842 BTC [-]
Namworld: ASICMINER is selling for 6x what it IPOed at
error4733: mp : obv, i'm not like i bet my house on infinite rally
error4733: in fact yes, but it's a other question
error4733: i hope a crash for a good re entry spot
BitHub: i'm going to make a long term 100 play
BitHub: so anything under 100$ is good enough for me
Namworld: no, was lending to Amazingrando, waiting to have enough for a BFL rig. But Amazingrando never repaid.
error4733: when i should stop mining with GPU if i thinks BTC'll hit 200$ ?
dub: how much does your power cost
BitHub: so i guess PrimeAsic was fake?
BitHub: that's what i'm asking
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.82002, Best ask: 36.94000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11998, Last trade: 36.80000, 24 hour volume: 49186.53224211, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 37.00000, 24 hour vwap: 35.67406
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0015 / 0.00175636 / 0.00197 (76200 shares, 133.83 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00176507 / 0.00197 (79498 shares, 140.32 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00165614 / 0.00197 (128608 shares, 212.99 BTC)
mircea_popescu: bitbet bet gives them good odds of being real, but i dunno.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 375 @ 1.10887536 = 415.8283 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00878 BTC [+]
dub: error4733: if you had cheap power and efficient GPUs you're good till around 100mn diff
error4733: but i want try, i think it's a good way to learn BTC
error4733: don't care about the 0.000000475 btc/day
error4733: good way also to understand altcoin, why is good, why is a scam
dub: not sure it is tbh, theres also teh heat, noise, decreased MTBF of your hardware
dub: might be fun to give it a try but I wouldn't be buying new GPUs at this point unless you plan to pwn n00bs with them on the side
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00561 = 28.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00560001 = 11.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.005501 = 2.2004 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.005501 = 1.1002 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 19900 @ 0.0054 = 107.46 BTC [-]
error4733: no one be objective with altcoin bc they old one but hate the new one, etc
thismustb: hey guys, do you know any MT4 trading platforms that allow leverage and would let you have a live account with not that much money?
thismustb: yea thats why i went to this channel but his site says 50BTC min deposit
thismustb: that's a bit steep at current rates
Chaang-Noi: i use namecheap, can wait to pay my next bills :)
mircea_popescu: wasn't he saying something about deci bitcoin lots or something ?
thismustb: hehe i dont know, i've only traded forex before, no experience in btc yet
thismustb: i just forgot 40$ in bitcoins about a year ago. then i saw btc is at 36$ now
thismustb: i was like wow, i should just try trading that
dub: you are a fucking baller
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 36.80002, Best ask: 36.99960, Bid-ask spread: 0.19958, Last trade: 36.99960, 24 hour volume: 49556.91047748, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 37.00000, 24 hour vwap: 35.70360
mircea_popescu: that was me in mexico, eating chocolate bonbons in the street
mircea_popescu: with like, a red purse, white suit. sent it back home the agape silence could be heard across the ocean.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00616 = 0.0123 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.65 = 7.15 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: i dont understand why people are buying on btct when they are 100% divs on BF
Chaang-Noi: if i used one already id not make a new account for 10 shares and just lose the 5%
Ukto: hopfully soon there will be more reasons to want one exchange over another, at least regarding the services that the exchange offers. >:P
ThickAsThieves: i have nothing against either, but i do find myself on BF more and more
ThickAsThieves: Namworld gets props for being the fastes sdice PT div payer
Namworld: I try to give dividends the same day.
Namworld: I even got the div on S.MPOE out before it was actually made
mircea_popescu: a while back the girl went on some stripper forum to give them free btc
mircea_popescu: the dilemma of cluelessness. if you give it free then it must be worthless or else you wouldn't give it for free. if you sell it then it's not worth it.
dub: on the cam girl forum
mircea_popescu: trying to go through life without a head must be painful.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.21510, Best ask: 37.34000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12490, Last trade: 37.21510, 24 hour volume: 50374.26609504, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 37.34000, 24 hour vwap: 35.73039
Eduard_Munteanu: I'm pondering what price should I leave a sell order at for the night.
mircea_popescu: 50 i would guess is possible, but over 100 is bubble territory.
Eduard_Munteanu: I think we've just begun attracting the Wall Street guys into it.
Chaang-Noi: it looks like to me all the bears who tried to sell are gone... we dont even get small correctios anymore
gribble: There are currently 18100.683 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 776692.059089 USD in total. | Data vintage: 67.7184 seconds
Eduard_Munteanu: You kinda get a sort of correction, but it's not much to scalp.
Eduard_Munteanu: I do try to scalp a bit though, I don't make a lot compared to the trend, but it's still something.
ThickAsThieves: i don;t under stand why some millionaire hasn't bought it into oblivion yet
Ukto: they are not millionaires for nothing. well, not most
dub: I think to be safe some millionair would need to buy a proper dev team first
dub: failure there is the biggest risk imo
Chaang-Noi: sold some btc to buy wife a truck, then made it back in one day with ltc
mircea_popescu: "As a complete aside: putting a 5mn BTC buywall @ $200 each up in MtGox might actually be the most rational use of a billion dollars currently. You'll end up with 2-3 mn BTC and the price will be permanently in the hundreds. Profit."
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: what's your background btw? Anything economics-related or not?
Eduard_Munteanu: Interesting. Mine's systems / control engineering, though I'm mostly a software dude.
ThickAsThieves: i imagine the bit time alt coins wars is a likely part of butcoins future
mircea_popescu: i was in what they called at the time a "suprareal" class in highschool. basically romania's gifted kids programme.
topace_: hey mircea_popescu you there?
topace_: any chance you can approve my withdraw so i can pay my dividends? :)
topace_: think someone was trying to be sneaky and push units from mpex->havelock to get the dividend twice
topace_: pay dividend first, THEN ill approve the push :)
topace_: i guess thats a "gotcha" for automatic push processing
mircea_popescu: course it may be a good idea to just ignore the thing and let people fleece you.
mircea_popescu: paying a 2% for new business may not be a bad deal, and besides, people value a dollar they think they stole above one they had to earn.
topace_: excellent dividend paid... g'nite
topace_: (and pending mpex push approved)
gribble: Time since last block: 1 minute and 1 second
gribble: Current Blocks: 224327 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1464 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 19 hours, 39 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4826833.94454 | Estimated Percent Change: 10.50758
Chaang-Noi: we had 7 blocks in 15 mins last night...
mircea_popescu: iirc about 2 days ago we were just starting this current diff
ThickAsThieves: maybe something to do with why the diff est was so high at first
Chaang-Noi: i dont think we did 1k blocks in 2 days, thats crazy
gribble: Time since last block: 4 minutes and 22 seconds
Chaang-Noi: yeah i knew it was higher than normal but seemed pretty high even for a ballpark guess
Chaang-Noi: i saw the 7 block in 15 mins and was like shiiit...
gribble: Time since last block: 6 minutes and 32 seconds
Chaang-Noi: its a significant site for tech type people
mircea_popescu: Jill: We hope by the time people get to alerts 5 or 6, they’ll stop. Once they’ve been mitigated, once they received several alerts, we’re just not going to send them any more alerts because they’re not the kind of customer we’re going to reach with this program
mircea_popescu: so basically pay them the 15 cents per movie that the miaa won't take.
Chaang-Noi: was their not already a bitcoin service taht did this?
Chaang-Noi: my parents in the us got rid of tv and got netflixs
Chaang-Noi: if i go back to the usa ill get google fiber
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.25001, Best ask: 37.37400, Bid-ask spread: 0.12399, Last trade: 37.37400, 24 hour volume: 51650.54746078, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 37.70000, 24 hour vwap: 35.79829
BitHub: throwing cash at this thing and losing out
BitHub: tell me if you think this is a good idea
BitHub: from now till end of the year i'm not going to sell any btc and just keep buying and buying up till end of the year
BitHub: so anything under 100$ is good right?
BitHub: do we have a chance of hitting 500 onday?
mircea_popescu: well ok, but ask me for guidance about how to stuff the vagoo, not about wtf the price will be
mircea_popescu: BitHub in principle we have a chance to hit any finite ratio within a finite interval.
ThickAsThieves: if you make a bet for any pool vs BTCguild, that pool's userbase will grow
grubles: i think i just now got the reason for naming assbot it's name
grubles: just change everything to butt
grubles: it's much more politically correct
grubles: (if you google the urban dictionary definition of grubbles, that is)
ThickAsThieves: Would it be possible to definively know if someone bought the entire Gox ask wall for one moment?
ThickAsThieves: wouldn't it be represented visually on goxlive by the center line touching the right side?
grubles: you still couldnt tell if there were 100 people buying coins or 1
grubles: unless you were magicaltux
grubles: since when do stormtroopers wear sheets
grubles: everything but their stormtrooper helmet?
grubles: thats a bit ironic isnt it?
BitHub: one of your camping trips again mircea?
grubles: mircea_popescu: youre missing out
mircea_popescu: "Well I was looking for a trader to grab 5 bitcoins from for days,and this asshole pm'ed me saying he had them. I should've known better,but was desperate and time was of the essence. I really needed these 5 bitcoins for an emergency too. Anyway I gave him my mpak and receipt and he hasnt been back since (3 days)."
ThickAsThieves: he needed to save his kidnapped daughter from human traffickers, using mostly karate chops
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.65364, Best ask: 37.76034, Bid-ask spread: 0.10670, Last trade: 37.65364, 24 hour volume: 52475.05497893, 24 hour low: 34.34200, 24 hour high: 37.76034, 24 hour vwap: 35.85542
gribble: (title <url>) -- Returns the HTML <title>...</title> of a URL.
mircea_popescu: so is there anything to this story about asicminer chips blowing out like baloons or just bs ?
Chaang-Noi: asicminer has not been proven to mine over 5th
Chaang-Noi: we seem to have hit a wall and no one knows why
Chaang-Noi: this could be for 1000 different reasons
Chaang-Noi: clearly they are mining like crazy... also i expect the next dividend to be crazy
BitHub: the forum post don't look good
dub: friedcat said they were having power problems
[\\\]: why would the next dividend by crazy?
[\\\]: they've onyl paid out 30% of ipo to date and once they hit that threshold, twice as many shares will be collecting future dividends
Chaang-Noi: first dividend they took out paying off a lot of debt, i assume second dividend all debt has been delat with
[\\\]: and what about in 2 weeks when 300 avalons finally arrive?
[\\\]: and bfl starts shipping?
Chaang-Noi: i said next dividend, not in a month...
[\\\]: its whenever friedcata gets to it
[\\\]: mircea_popescu: some say thats not soon enough
[\\\]: you know, miners should be paid instantaneously
Chaang-Noi: might get changed to thursday however cuz of last week but i expect weekly and i expect this week to be like .05 maybe
[\\\]: how long did they mine before paying the first dividend?
Chaang-Noi: they got atleast 15% of the network right?
gribble: Error: "nethahs" is not a valid command.
BitHub: awww yeah i hope its .05 per share
[\\\]: 2 they mined for 2 weeks, paid debt, paid .03 div
[\\\]: so now they've mined for 1 week
[\\\]: expecting .05 is a bit much
Chaang-Noi: okay i did the math, maybe .02 is beter
[\\\]: another week, another 15% diff jump
[\\\]: another week, 300 avalons
Chaang-Noi: but if 5th gos to 12 th and 12 th goes to 60 th....
[\\\]: Chaang-Noi: after .1, your div gets cut in half
Chaang-Noi: i thought batch one shipped in jan? :)
[\\\]: so it takes doubling just to keep even
[\\\]: it was never to ship in jan
Chaang-Noi: yeah the .1 get cut in half, but that money gets invested into new asics right?
[\\\]: that will cost money
[\\\]: those shares aren't the company
Chaang-Noi: im pretty happy with asicminer, and if bfl keeps failing...
[\\\]: friedcat has to get paid
[\\\]: those three own the other half
[\\\]: anyone paying .6/share is gonna take a long while to pay off
Chaang-Noi: im going to assume they keep 10% network for a year and see what that brings in...
[\\\]: who is paying 100 btc a share?
[\\\]: I've got a bunch to sell then
[\\\]: point still remains
[\\\]: anyone buying at .6 will take a while to pay off
ThickAsThieves: you dont necessarily need to "pay off" the share at all
gribble: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
mircea_popescu: throwing * a litte* away on a long bet isn't necessarily a bad strategy
[\\\]: assuming the company survives
[\\\]: mircea_popescu: aye, been there, done that ;)
[\\\]: until they can answer why they're stuck on 5
Chaang-Noi: okay assuming they only keep 105 of the network on average for a year that is .3285 in two years double that to about what it is selling for now...
[\\\]: two years in bitcoin is forever
Chaang-Noi: yeah i sold some at .6 but keeping the alst half,
Chaang-Noi: also if they get 20% on average for a eyar that is much higher
ThickAsThieves: they really should give info about what the hold up is
[\\\]: what happens when the sec decides to start investigating us holders?
Chaang-Noi: and bfl fucks up hard and they get 40%....
[\\\]: Chaang-Noi, now you're just being stupid
mircea_popescu: at these prices market will be awash in real asics this year
[\\\]: Chaang-Noi, the sec doesn't have to go to china
[\\\]: ah right, because you're untouchable
[\\\]: is that why you were pissing your pants about your passthrough?
BitHub: yay for not being USA resident
Chaang-Noi: the sec is not realisticly going to fly to china or thailand or hack my wallet...
BitHub: you know they got cia agents there?
Chaang-Noi: sec might take down a glbse like exchange that asicminer is not involved with...
Chaang-Noi: cia right now is not after btc... mostly drugs
[\\\]: you're an expert on the cia now?
BitHub: i was in a country similar to thailand
Chaang-Noi: the agents here in thailand that i know are mostly involved in the drug trafficing stuff in the north
ThickAsThieves: cia, sec no one knows shit about what will happen in those regards
BitHub: some cia agents came and got the bodies
Chaang-Noi: the sec cant do shit in thail;and or china.. thinking they can is silly
[\\\]: its not even a new concept
[\\\]: (jesus, retards, parades)
gribble: usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 17 hours, 39 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <usagi> You won't hold the bitcoins, they will. They'll just tell you how many bitcoins you "own".
mircea_popescu: help me -assets. is he saying that like it's a bad thing ?
[\\\]: I can't be bothered to figure it out
[\\\]: its not like what he meant changes anything
[\\\]: I don't bother reading that particular forum much anymore
[\\\]: I'm not sexing someone to watch it for me ;)
mircea_popescu: help me -assets. is he saying that like it's a bad thing ?
[\\\]: lol ThickAsThieves
[\\\]: its like that 100 btc roulette from back in the day
[\\\]: everyone passed around 100 btc as if it meant something
[\\\]: then again, it was only worth about $200 at the time
[\\\]: probably not his heart..
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 37.87000, Best ask: 37.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 37.99000, 24 hour volume: 53627.32358050, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 37.99000, 24 hour vwap: 35.91832
[\\\]: wtf is terry gilliam
mircea_popescu: pretty soon there's not going to be any us citizens left.
Chaang-Noi: no wall until 40, and that is only 2k btc
mircea_popescu: [\\\] possibly the only american filmmaker worth the notice ?
[\\\]: he renounced his citizenship in 2006
[\\\]: way to be 6 years late
[\\\]: are you reading your news on the wayback machine?
ThickAsThieves: where would be a good place for an american to leave for?
[\\\]: ThickAsThieves: I heard North Korea is nice this time of year.
[\\\]: TPB is going to base themselves out of NK
[\\\]: If you play basketball
[\\\]: ThickAsThieves: got any kids?
[\\\]: you'd be pretty popular in italy soon ;)
[\\\]: serving the church
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar05 06:46:59 mtgox x8 47.4170 @ 38.08999282 USD
gribble: There are currently 6343.2892 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 250361.11051 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds
[\\\]: haven't started yet
[\\\]: not before next week
[\\\]: but most likely before the end of the month
BitHub: is there a bitcoin bet for it?
[\\\]: they want a new one for the sunday before easter sunday
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.00000, Best ask: 39.01100, Bid-ask spread: 0.01100, Last trade: 39.00000, 24 hour volume: 55901.80471473, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 39.00000, 24 hour vwap: 36.01882
[\\\]: Chaang-Noi: no wonder you want a new pope
[\\\]: I didn't realize you were kinky like that
[\\\]: I'm sure they're into that.
gribble: There are currently 16268.94 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 722719.888071 USD in total. | Data vintage: 32.5782 seconds
gribble: There are currently 4749.7778 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 188971.229954 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.8562 seconds
[\\\]: <Chaang-Noi> fuck me running << that sounds a bit more than open minded
Chaang-Noi: you should see some of the shows for tourists
BitHub: getting harder to pick them these days
[\\\]: BitHub: are you sure its a girl?
[\\\]: mircea_popescu: they have to.. cia and all
Chaang-Noi: mp they will do what every you want them to do
mircea_popescu: "Vatican dismisses reports linking pope's resignation to gay conclave discovery"
[\\\]: of course they did
Chaang-Noi: the feminist bs did not happen here yet...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.99000, Best ask: 39.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21000, Last trade: 38.99000, 24 hour volume: 59388.87350464, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 39.20000, 24 hour vwap: 36.19533
[\\\]: meanwhile the rates on bitfinex usd keep going up
[\\\]: are there bets on how long bitfinex goes before a default?
mircea_popescu: "Canon law states that a resignation must be made freely and properly manifested and that the pope resigning must be of sound mind."
[\\\]: insane pope would probably find the wrong side of a pillow
[\\\]: according to Luke-Jr, there is no pope
[\\\]: there has been no pope for quite some time
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: lol, interesting observation
Chaang-Noi: yeah that is the first thing i saw too, crazy pope cant quit...
Chaang-Noi: but then again, i guess a pope cant really be crazy or if so gods will?
Luke-Jr: it makes sense in a way, but at the same time creates practical problems
Chaang-Noi: id geuss if the pope was crazy crazy he would just be locked in his room and they would say he is sick
Chaang-Noi: why is 39 to 40 so much slow than 38 to 39 :(
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.90000, Best ask: 38.91000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 38.91000, 24 hour volume: 61314.60667593, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 39.50000, 24 hour vwap: 36.31836
gribble: There are currently 1824.2403 bitcoins demanded at or over 38.0 USD, worth 70529.8432092 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0079 seconds
gribble: Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
gribble: There are currently 7610.7434 bitcoins demanded at or over 37.0 USD, worth 285610.913583 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0067 seconds
Chaang-Noi: that is just crazy, i wonder once sellers run out of coins if we dont go to $100 in a week...
Bowjob: umm guys. I wanna get rich as much as the next person but.. isn't this a little to fast?
BitHub: maybe its making up for that mtgox hack
aiball: no, this is people finally realizing the dollar is over.
Bowjob: Idk. it doesnt feel to real to me
Bowjob: and i hope u guys are right but..
Bowjob: I wrote a bullshit bull chart
Bowjob: i say bullshit because.. it wasn't bullish enough and i was just joking
Bowjob: I'll just sit this rocket out, hopefully I don't fall
aiball: next up boeing accepts bitcoin
Bowjob: wake me up when bitcoins are at least 5 grand each, then I'll be interested
mircea_popescu: meanwhile i'm worth over 1 bn lei, which is remarkably enough not the first time
mircea_popescu: it sounds better than it is tho. romania cut 4 zeroes in like 2004
mircea_popescu: pretty much every third guy was a billionaire before that.
BitHub: how much is that in us?
BitHub: jesus are you serious?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.80000, Best ask: 38.81100, Bid-ask spread: 0.01100, Last trade: 38.80000, 24 hour volume: 62576.26296810, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 39.50000, 24 hour vwap: 36.37897
Bowjob: k guys we are crashing
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.80000, Best ask: 38.83266, Bid-ask spread: 0.03266, Last trade: 38.81100, 24 hour volume: 62580.46590463, 24 hour low: 34.37000, 24 hour high: 39.50000, 24 hour vwap: 36.37914
Bowjob: see you at single digits!
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: do you do philanthropic stuff with your wealth?
Bowjob: his PR gave this dude 10 BTC to stick a sharpie up his ass
BitHub: are you in a big mansion?
mircea_popescu: but principally helping poor tall girls through college
Chaang-Noi: <mircea_popescu> but principally helping poor tall girls through college yeah... i know that...
Bowjob: but degrees from other countries are worth shit here in canada
Bowjob: maybe from US and UK... the rest are pretty much worthless here
Bowjob: we have doctors who drive cabs
Chaang-Noi: 2 million btc = 81 million, you dont ahve 2 million btc do you? :)
Chaang-Noi: much of this wealth must be on paper and in things that if sold out to cash would crash the market
BitHub: yeah man that's insane :) well done.
BitHub: i would be happy with just 1 million
BitHub: yeah i got about a 1 million pesos as well :P
Bowjob: im well over 1 million cents
BitHub: is 1 million baht alot?
BitHub: hehe she got some meat on her mate
mircea_popescu: anyway, i had some pix with m,y "mansion" but now can't motherfuckin find em
Chaang-Noi: 6000 baht is the average wage here so 1,000,000 baht is about 14 years of average work
BitHub: what's the bitcoin market like there?
Chaang-Noi: so yeah its okay but no, its not bill gates rich either
Chaang-Noi: there are a lot of expats who do computer work
Chaang-Noi: i think there are three small btc exchagnes in thailand
BitHub: i'll be in philippines next year
Chaang-Noi: from time to time a fourum user will call me up and be like shit, ran out of money, will you take btc...
Bowjob: bithub what are u doing there
BitHub: i'll tell you once i'm there
BitHub: good to know there's some bitcoin action in Thailand :)
BitHub: i'm in Australia myself at the moment
Bowjob: i hear they decapitate tourists in the philippines. watch out
BitHub: especially in mindanao
Chaang-Noi: mp what did you do for the school girls? :)
Chaang-Noi: btc is 40 at "rock" waht exchagne is "rock" ?
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar05 07:52:53 rock 46.9000 @ 40.00 USD
BitHub: i think mircea makes pornos
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 38.92087, Best ask: 38.94809, Bid-ask spread: 0.02722, Last trade: 38.92087, 24 hour volume: 63162.27334246, 24 hour low: 34.41000, 24 hour high: 39.50000, 24 hour vwap: 36.41416
BitHub: what lanuage is that on your site mircea?
gribble: There are currently 107.26203 bitcoins offered at or under 39.0 USD, worth 4182.97936833 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds
BitHub: is it worth getting into ltc?
BitHub: been thinking about it
Chaang-Noi: altbot> Mar05 07:52:08 btc-e x4 2546.4950 @ 0.147000 USD
Bowjob: I should get back at LTC.. maybe
Bowjob: fuck me. I sold 10k LTC for like 5 cents each
Chaang-Noi: altbot> Mar05 07:57:02 btc-e 100.0000 @ 0.155000 USD
Bowjob: aight, i'll ride the LTC train again. choochoo
Chaang-Noi: yeah ltc was way undervalued, but i did not think it would pop until btc started to go down
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the problem with that stuff is that if i want to i can bunch up some gpu miners
Bowjob: gah my Avalon 2 looks outdated
Chaang-Noi: i assume that first annon must be asicminer as well
Chaang-Noi: i bet these are racks that are ready to go and fully done
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00073421 = 0.5139 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: did not asicminer mine on some other pool than oz??
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.0051 = 2.04 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 511.39728 bitcoins offered at or under 39.0 USD, worth 19944.4939902 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34499 = 0.69 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.03475, Best ask: 39.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01525, Last trade: 39.05000, 24 hour volume: 75308.05560655, 24 hour low: 34.76100, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 37.27642
Bowjob: dont forget u guys can get 5 btc for 100 dollars
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 420 @ 0.00577 = 2.4234 BTC [+]
TradeFortress: when this limit (overall 250 btc) is reached i will have to stop. SO IF YOU WANT TO DONATE ONLY IF YOU ARE GETTING BTC IN RETURN PLEASE, PLEASE wait some time until i go through all the donations made already an state how much btc i've got left to give away (if any)**"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.65 = 3.3 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.04000, Best ask: 39.26886, Bid-ask spread: 0.22886, Last trade: 39.26886, 24 hour volume: 76899.63793808, 24 hour low: 34.77000, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 37.33416
Bowjob: well the worst that can happen is you donate to a good cause
Bowjob: i donated to khanacademy, will write a letter
Bowjob: that would help btc a lot
Bowjob: make sure you send him an unaltered PM
Bowjob: I tried to gave away 1 bitcoin.. but i just go snubbed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1120 @ 0.0050999 = 5.7119 BTC [-]
bit14: someone could always donate more btc to the guy so he has more to give away :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5065 @ 0.00073421 = 3.7188 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3429 @ 0.00073821 = 2.5313 BTC [+]
bit14: quick count, 48 bitcointip tips in that thread, they're not all for 5 btc but most of them are, so it's close to 250 max
Bowjob: lookit. i wanted to go to hungary too lol
mircea_popescu: TradeFortress well, checking things out beats guessing you know
mircea_popescu: so did everyone else, including asicminer, avalon, etc.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5851 = 1.1702 BTC [-]
gribble: A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 384135.5818 USD and would take the last price down to 37.2500 USD, resulting in an average price of 38.4136 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
gribble: A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2863474.6369 USD and would take the last price down to 16.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 28.6347 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 11.8681 seconds
gribble: A market order to sell 1000000 bitcoins right now would net 4128657.4952 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 4.1287 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 21.4781 seconds
thestringpuller: oh goodness the bubble at 42 will collapse significantly when a large horde goes to dump coins
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.00000, Best ask: 40.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 40.00000, 24 hour volume: 87145.55081638, 24 hour low: 35.12102, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.30823
gribble: nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 0 days, 19 hours, 49 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.00000, Best ask: 40.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 40.00000, 24 hour volume: 87145.55081638, 24 hour low: 35.12102, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.30823
Chaang-Noi: usagi he sold you them, talk to him, what can i do?
mjr__: do you guys think the dow is correlated at all to bitcoin?
Chaang-Noi: usagi i dont doubt you, but legally what can i do?
mircea_popescu: more traction than all bitcoin's historical cummulative.
ThickAsThieves: mp, can you proces deadterra's withdrawal so we can get our divs?
gribble: (bcauth <nick>) -- Initiate authentication for user <nick>. You must have registered with the bot with a bitcoin address for this to work. You will be given a random passphrase to sign with your address, and submit to the bot with the 'bcverify' command. Your passphrase will expire within 10 minutes.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1299 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: he says sorry it was his fault he forgot to make the withdrawal
mircea_popescu: he got on my ignore months ago for being the fuck out of line. then ppl intervened cause oh, he's a good guy etc, he did it again within like... a day.
mircea_popescu: he can be all solid he wants, but much like gigavps he got to get it in his skull that the hierarchy is on the ground not in his imagination.
mircea_popescu: iirc arguing with me about how solid & trustworthy nefario is.
Chaang-Noi: ill say there is no proof pirate is a ponzi :)
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.00101, Best ask: 40.07000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06899, Last trade: 40.07000, 24 hour volume: 89799.91641713, 24 hour low: 35.20000, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.39301
DeaDTerra: did MP indirectly say I have balls?
Chaang-Noi: he is still trying for my business i guess poor fail mp
DeaDTerra: I guess you can't have balls and not be ignored at the same time, you have to chose :P
Chaang-Noi: i guess he knew from the start i thought mp was fail so never was shocked when i rejected his fail
assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00072612 / 0.00075028 / 0.00078628 (2480324 shares, 1,860.96 BTC), 7D: 0.0007147 / 0.00075192 / 0.00078628 (3500340 shares, 2,631.98 BTC), 30D: 0.0006153 / 0.00067771 / 0.00078628 (61872804 shares, 41,932.14 BTC)
DeaDTerra: dividends will come in about 12 confirms
gribble: There are currently 11532.914 bitcoins offered at or under 45.0 USD, worth 482883.431677 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0022 seconds
B0g4r7_: What's up with bitinstant? Anyone got the inside word?
JimRogers: Why is the sendto address on my wager wrong?
Chaang-Noi: i do find it odd bitinstant is down...
B0g4r7_: That's what I'm trying to find out. They've been down for days now.
B0g4r7_: "BitInstant.com is currently down due to site revisions." "We apologize for the downtime. BitInstant will be back online after the weekend."
B0g4r7_: I think this calls for a bet on whether they will resurface.
B0g4r7_: ...that someone else will write and post
B0g4r7_: ppl on btc-e are not happy.
B0g4r7_: not being able to get funds in.
JimRogers: 05-03-13 08:30 Yes 97`003 1.00000000 16fUs / 13rnD
JimRogers: i've placed multiple bets successfully
mircea_popescu: JimRogers now that's a good question. do you have autocomplete or anything else on the browser side messing up your bets ?
JimRogers: this one seemed to have gotten fucked up
mircea_popescu: a guy earlier had his browser autopick no whether he clicked yes or no
JimRogers: i have placed 9 wagers successfully
mircea_popescu: is the address wrong as in, not the one you intended to use or wrong as in, never seen it before ?
JimRogers: wrong, as in, no the "Send To" address i have used numerous times
Chaang-Noi: mp are you conected to that site in anyway other than a user?
mircea_popescu: Owner : Matic "kakobrekla" Kočevar and Mircea "mircea_popescu" Popescu
JimRogers: has anyone else had their bits go to a random Send To address
Chaang-Noi: i doubt mp scammed you, fucked up mabe...
JimRogers: thats not the address i entered into the Send To
JimRogers: write I'm done wit this fucking website scam
B0g4r7_: I only started using bitbet yesterday.
B0g4r7_: I guess I could check the send-to address if I were in front of that wallet.
mircea_popescu: incidentally! the address he paid his 1 btc to is 16fUs2yD4xLyxYy6863SMX3PP8Lw1xvZog
JimRogers: should i send some coin to the address and see if i get it?
mircea_popescu: the address the payout goes to (13rnDnrH8zBAkNpxXFEyphj3EFcvDKd9Ws) is there : 18.5851316787%
mircea_popescu: well, there's relation between the two addresses, it didn't pop out of randomness
JimRogers: i don't understand the taint analysis
JimRogers: what can i do to see if those funds will end up in one of my accounts
mircea_popescu: it looks through the blockchain to see if two addresses are related.
mircea_popescu: it's somewhat improbable the two addies got 8 txs in between themselves and yet they're totally unrelated.
JimRogers: i don't understand the second sentence
JimRogers: 13rnDnrH8zBAkNpxXFEyphj3EFcvDKd9Ws
mircea_popescu: the address you paid from, and the address that's listed as beneficiary
JimRogers: is the one the gay ass website says "send to"
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1326 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.13717 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: JimRogers: well, the only thing i can really say is you pasted an address (which you also say you did), bitbet did no further processing as in establishing the return address. what you pasted is in the db. whats in the db is on the site. but i can do one thing - add your payout destination notification at the last step if that would help to prevent any mistakes in the future.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 18 @ 0.1372 = 2.4696 BTC [+]
JimRogers: i sent a micropayment to that address
JimRogers: hopefully it ends up in one of my accounts
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.59 = 3.54 BTC [+]
JimRogers: this fucking website is lacking serious functionality
B0g4r7_: Maybe you clicked on "send to originating address" accidentally and then clicked SUBMIT.
B0g4r7_: It would be nice if the "Send bitcoins to fund the bet" screen showed the chosen payout address.
JimRogers: this fucking website needs account history
JimRogers: i put the correct "Send To" address in
JimRogers: and then sent a bitcoin to the supplied addy
JimRogers: your website registered the bet, but put a different send to
mircea_popescu: JimRogers the problem here is this : you state what you did, but we have no way of knowing it's true or false
kakobrekla: 17:47.17 ( kakobrekla ) JimRogers: well, the only thing i can really say is you pasted an address (which you also say you did), bitbet did no further processing as in establishing the return address. what you posted is in the db. whats in the db is on the site. but i can do one thing - add your payout destination notification at the last step if that would help to prevent any mistakes
mircea_popescu: the two addresses are related, and you just declared you don't control the originating address
mircea_popescu: this is very difficult to resolve because it's basically no leads
JimRogers: your website put the wrong send to
Namworld: Why don't people check their inputs before submitting?
JimRogers: 1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
B0g4r7_: Says you've left the channel.
B0g4r7_: Stop closing the window or whatever you're doing.
JimRogers: 1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
JimRogers: was the bitcoin address i sent the money to
JimRogers: or set the send to to the right addy
B0g4r7_: Are you sure someone doesn't have remote control of your PC?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
B0g4r7_: idk why your client would randomly leave the channel.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 149 @ 0.00528554 = 0.7875 BTC [+]
JimRogers: it seems the addy 1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
JimRogers: 1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
JimRogers: was the addy bit bet supplied as the bet destination address
JimRogers: seals with clubs sent 1 bitcoin to 1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
JimRogers: the block chain doesn't recognize the transfer
B0g4r7_: So maybe you're seeing a bet that's not yours, and yours still is not confirmed?
JimRogers: seals claims to have sent last night
B0g4r7_: It took a while for my bets to confirm.
B0g4r7_: Take it up w/ Seals. If it's not in the blockchain, they didn't send.
B0g4r7_: In the future, I advise always sending from a local wallet.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1851 @ 0.00528554 = 9.7835 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 649 @ 0.0055 = 3.5695 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.59 = 7.67 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.5817 = 2.9085 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.5815 = 4.0705 BTC [-]
B0g4r7_: Showing the payout address on the bet confirmation/funding screen would be nice to have.
B0g4r7_: Would help avoid mistakes.
B0g4r7_: That's good. If that can be reduced to 0.1, even better.
JimRogers: i have records of everything i have done
kakobrekla: with over 2k bets placed - yeah its preety good
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.5815 = 5.2335 BTC [-]
B0g4r7_: Your mistake was in thinking the listed bet was yours.
JimRogers: or seals is claiming a cash out happened that never happened, coincidentally at the same timing and same amount as what i sent
B0g4r7_: 1.0 BTC is not exactly a unique bet amount.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5809 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: JimRogers if its not in a blockchain on the correct address
kakobrekla: also, if addy is not used in 24hrs is not active anymore
JimRogers: so you can confirm that 1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
JimRogers: and seals claims to have sent it to that addy
mod6: yeah, 0 tx's for that address
JimRogers: 2013-03-04 23:31 1 BTC 1AKeAYxjfcdQeGMtKTma9gsRG2i1dgMxtN
JimRogers: and if i lose the money i won't fault you guys
JimRogers: but the site could still use much more functionality
JimRogers: and perhaps binary options, instead of this weird time weighting bullshit
B0g4r7_: Srsly, consider a local wallet. You should be using one anyway.
B0g4r7_: Colloquy on OS X huh. I use that at home and don't have that issue. I run version 2.3 tho, which I think is a lot different.
kakobrekla: so you have 3 days to send the bet in since the time you requested an address
kakobrekla: once first bet is in - addy is kept active until the bet is over
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 82 @ 0.1372 = 11.2504 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1379 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.13997 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.156 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1599 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.16 BTC [+]
B0g4r7_: What happens if I bet .01 BTC, and then days later, after betting is closed, I send another 5 BTC?
kakobrekla: but i will scan the blockchain to findout how much he is getting and take half.
jurov: lol... at least it should be added to dividends, like mpex mispayments
B0g4r7_: Earlier I made a whole new "bet", when I could have just sent more to the same address.
jurov: so i can add to a bet for someone else, causing confusion and else >:D
mircea_popescu: jurov you cause confusion mostly for yourself, bitbet will just pay him
JimRogers: ok hopefully sealswithclubs can help me understand what happened to my coin
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 91 @ 0.1647 = 14.9877 BTC [+]
JimRogers: do they have an IRC room with helpful ppl ilk eyou guys?
mircea_popescu: JimRogers not afaik, bitbet is one of the few gay sites that do
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 9 @ 0.1647 = 1.4823 BTC [+]
B0g4r7_: You'll have to PM Micon, or use their "contact" email.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6499 BTC [-]
pigeons: all the good bitcoin sites are apparently
B0g4r7_: If you look, you'll see that most of the bets are more pink than blue. Definitely gay.
ZedsterX: don't know how i missed it before
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.04000, Best ask: 40.05995, Bid-ask spread: 0.01995, Last trade: 40.04000, 24 hour volume: 85295.59320849, 24 hour low: 35.99900, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.66891
JimRogers: the whole weighting system is retarded
ZedsterX: don't talk about mp's weighting
JimRogers: which time zone are the time stamps on the website?
jurov: and I'm sure someone will someday start betting site with binary futures
mod6: if it was binary would it just be like 50`000 per side?
jurov: kakobrekla, bit it isn't a bad ide to make the bets resellable
JimRogers: give me the money back someone stole
jurov: if you submit request with payout addy signature, you can chenge it
jurov: thus effectively selling the bet
B0g4r7_: Seems like an interesting idea.
mod6: wait, isn't the weighting just a time based thing -- so if you want to "sell your bet" to a third party, it still doesn't change the time when the wager was placed.
JimRogers: thats why this website is fucking gay
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't understand it tho. explain it to me like i'm JimRogers
B0g4r7_: idk how you'd implement it tho.
JimRogers: buy-sell whatever reality dictates
mod6: JimRogers: bowties are gay.
JimRogers: you can start by finding my money that was stolen
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00074914 = 6.3677 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00074999 = 1.125 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5850 @ 0.00074999 = 4.3874 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 604 @ 0.00075 = 0.453 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00075 = 0.75 BTC [+]
jurov: mircea_popescu say you made bet with 99999 weight but you want the moeny now not wait
mircea_popescu: well, the reasons bitbet does betting correctly, rather than what you propose, are discussed there.
JimRogers: not even reading all that bullshit as its too long
JimRogers: I'm not proposing changing ur ways
jurov: so you find someone who wants it, you'll sign the request with existing payout address
JimRogers: Binary Futures are thousands of years old
jurov: and submit it to bitbet with new payout address
mod6: you want him to change it, and you won't bother to read on how it works. clever.
jurov: so the bet will now pay to the buyer
JimRogers: first my money gets eaten by ur website
mircea_popescu: JimRogers when you're done being riught read the comments too
JimRogers: now u wanna ban me cuz i make as olid suggestion
mod6: you had some site payout to a different betting site... all bets are off, check with the sender as NOTHING is in the blockchain
mod6: kakobrekla tried to help you, now kindly stfu or change the attitude.
Namworld: The blockchain is public and everyone can clearly see no transaction was ever sent to your bet's address.
pigeons: no im waiting for them to use twitter bootstrap
pigeons: bootstrap shpould randomize defaults or something
mircea_popescu: no, they should just use old tripod and myspace looks as default
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 91 @ 0.1619 = 14.7329 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.08000, Best ask: 40.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 40.10000, 24 hour volume: 83684.96974197, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.73271
ThickAsThieves: guys, can i um maybe get a bit more functionality out of BitBet?!
ThickAsThieves: like, don't change anything, but it should be better ok?
mod6: sooo.. i my mind, the weighting has nothing to do with if a bet is "binary" meaning like "over/under" or "true/false" ... the weighting is just to encourage early betting.
mod6: yeah, im re-reading that blog - he seems to fall into this category
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.581 = 2.324 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.5809 = 8.7135 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.58 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.56 = 2.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.555 = 3.885 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.55 = 2.75 BTC [-]
ZedsterX: my god mp bring MPEX into the 21st century with some better charts and graphics...it's like looking at a 70s movie :)
jurov: ZedsterX, shhh, that's opportunity ;)
ZedsterX: obv not if i am bitching and shouldn't be
ZedsterX: ya know i probably read that 4 times but the ADD just let it slip right on by
ZedsterX: i will checkin it out...and i was just yankin your chain
jurov: lol, even if yes, that's honour :DD
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4746628.77934 based on data since last change | 4836522.12241 based on data for last three days
ZedsterX: ok now i know he called me troll
mircea_popescu: *MPOE-PR* it's almost like he's a made up caricature for an irc play
mircea_popescu: *MPOE-PR* (also i imagine everything he says in no pok voice)
mircea_popescu: *MPOE-PR* this gay ass website ate my bitcoin i tell you! no send to, no (quit) ... (enter) send to at all!
ZedsterX: i do remember looking at the sierra thing....i turned out to be way too incompetent to figure it out
ZedsterX: but really no matter which chart i look at DICE is diving :P
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005 / 0.0059661 / 0.006225 (233405 shares, 1,392.52 BTC), 7D: 0.0048 / 0.00589302 / 0.0063799 (532527 shares, 3,138.20 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00593929 / 0.007395 (6854653 shares, 40,711.83 BTC)
ZedsterX: kakobrekla: probably nothing sir i am just unsure how to use it
ZedsterX: i have download the file...i am assuming its command line?
jurov: "most everyone" prolly got trolled by that "bitcoin's moar expensive, s.dice revenue must go down" and other nonarguments
kakobrekla: ZedsterX, do you have sierra chart installed?
kakobrekla: ZedsterX, you can run the exe with a double click, you done need to go to cmd.
ZedsterX: oops i see what i did...my bad gimme a minute
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.65 = 3.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.555 = 5.55 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.55 = 5.5 BTC [-]
blu3gr1ffon: that unknowns one has problems. simply because blockchain can't identify a pool and all of a sudden it's unknown.
blu3gr1ffon: i mean, the largest pool could change their IPs just to manipulate the bet at the last second
dub: you could possibly game with ddos
pigeons: blockchain.info goes longer than 4 days misidentifying pools
pigeons: its just so people will start a who is the mystery miner thread
mircea_popescu: identifying anyting in bitcoin is an exercise in weighing tits.
jurov: so, i got email from coinbr customer that wanted to buy just one call and ignored the "1 BTC initial funding required"
jurov: he's prolly coing here soon
mircea_popescu: "you can estimate the health of a system by counting how often tail appears in history"
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.16990, Best ask: 39.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03010, Last trade: 39.16990, 24 hour volume: 80328.52310126, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 38.96510
gribble: There are currently 11784.191 bitcoins offered at or under 42.0 USD, worth 483266.145112 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0023 seconds
gribble: There are currently 12980.381 bitcoins demanded at or over 37.0 USD, worth 492895.066255 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.8729 seconds
gribble: There are currently 7685.7263 bitcoins demanded at or over 38.0 USD, worth 295264.074332 USD in total. | Data vintage: 17.3235 seconds
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.005 / 0.00596607 / 0.006225 (230050 shares, 1,372.50 BTC), 7D: 0.0048 / 0.00588869 / 0.0063799 (527527 shares, 3,106.45 BTC), 30D: 0.0042 / 0.00593892 / 0.007395 (6852829 shares, 40,698.42 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300000 @ 0.00075 = 975 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.555 = 4.44 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.55 = 4.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.53 = 5.3 BTC [-]
Namworld: Thick: As far as I know it always take DeaDTerra a few days.
Namworld: My passthroughs 2 weeks I think.
topace: pigeons: hows the arbitrage working for you?
topace: mpex->havelock is available
pigeons: topace: thanks for the quick service, it will work out fine as long as dice doesnt spike up before i get deposited with mpex
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.52 = 5.2 BTC [-]
pigeons: just testing with small amounts and of course there wasnt a large amount of liquidity
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.505 = 4.545 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.505 BTC [-]
pigeons: i have an account with everyone, even btcjam
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5001 = 1.0002 BTC [-]
jurov: muhahaha bratislava hackerspace thinks about providing discount accomodation to amir/genjix... if he'll do some dish washing
jcpham: pigeons i'm laughing at you right now for the btcjam account
jcpham: no out loud though, that would be rude
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.50000001 = 6.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.495 = 2.97 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.49 = 2.94 BTC [-]
jurov: mircea_popescu: just chat in #progressbar.sk
Namworld: I would guess it's due to BTC's high price in USD. Maybe people want to cash that money out.
Namworld: Only thing I can see. S.DICE is still great as usual.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.49 = 9.31 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 16 @ 0.4874999 = 7.8 BTC [-]
jurov: if they really include amir in some vip gallery, i'll definitely link ya :P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.48 = 2.88 BTC [-]
Namworld: They should lend the BTC to me instead
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.48 = 9.12 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.89000, Best ask: 39.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 39.90000, 24 hour volume: 81687.70130217, 24 hour low: 36.00012, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 39.02022
mircea_popescu: its interesting how the pts amplify movements. when it went to 6x on mpex it went to 7x on pt.
jurov: it depends on which
jurov: the bitfunder one is dampened instead
pigeons: less precision on the pts, since 100 = 1 on havelock at least
pigeons: and btct doesnt goout as many satoshi
pizzaman1337: Namworld: what will you be doing with the borrowed btc?
jurov: pigeons what do you need such precision for?
pigeons: i'm trying to spread fud, at least let someone agree first
Namworld: I place bids for assets I want.
Namworld: I always need capital to place bids.
Namworld: Mostly trade BTC denominated assets
jcpham: Silicon Valley Bank, a company that provides financial services to emerging growth companies, will be holding deposits of bitcoin and dollars for Coinlab. However, they will not be providing insurance for these deposits.
pigeons: i think i'd rather trust magic the gathering online exchange
jcpham: the more i read, the less i like
topace: mircea_popescu: what do you mean 50% of pt float ?
topace: we have 100% of the shares issued and trading on havelock
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.47 = 4.7 BTC [-]
topace: we're at S.DICE x 1`125`000
Namworld: at least the private section. I have to republish for the public spreadsheet regularly.
Namworld: thanks for the unneeded information, kakobrekla
Guest8179: GSDPT currently has 1,4 Mill shares
mircea_popescu: "is it true that aspirin can be used as an anticonceptional ?"
mircea_popescu: "uhhh... i guess if you hold it between your knees it might"
DeaDTerra: I have 1,4 mill spread out between BF,BTCT and private deals
pigeons: DeaDTerra: you'll get used to it. try spending some time in jail
Namworld: I lost $14 getting my GSDPT pushed a few hours before the dividends... =P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.5 = 5 BTC [+]
Namworld: Well on the plus side, I saved on getting cheap shares from Bitfunder.
mod6: (11:17) < mircea_popescu> "so then... what, you just sit on it ?" << lol
topace: im actually amazed at how quickly havelocks sdice passthru adjusts to match mpex
pigeons: congrats! success! you're funds are safe! "Overall, due to major choke points and redundancies in our system, the hacker was only able to walk away with $12,480 USD in BTC, and send them in 3 installments of 333 BTC to bitcoin addresses. "
mircea_popescu: topace people must be watchin'. and since you made it easy...
topace: bitinstant got haxx0red ?
mircea_popescu: "Welcome to MPEx The only Bitcoin service that has never been hacked. Established August 2011."
topace: mircea_popescu: havelock hasnt been hacked
topace: nor has canadianbitcoins
mircea_popescu: im obviously only comparing to the other ones that were hacked
ZedsterX: safer putting "yet" on the end of the sentence
mircea_popescu: "None of your personal or transactional information has been leaked. We keep all that data offline to protect everyones privacy."
pigeons: oh you were expecting honesty about a hack?
mircea_popescu: The attacker contacted our domain registrar at Site5 posing as me and using a very similar email address as mine, they did so by proxying through a network owned by a haulage company in the UK whom I suspect are innocent victims the same as ourselves. Armed with knowledge of my place of birth and mother's maiden name alone (both facts easy to locate on the public record) they convinced Site5 staff to add their email ad
mircea_popescu: dress to the account and make it the primary login (this prevented us from deleting it from the account).
mircea_popescu: After changing this info and locking the attacker out, overnight he was able to revert my changes and point our website somewhere else. Site5 is denying any damages, but we suspect this was partly their fault.
pigeons: these hacks always coincide with "system maintenance"
mircea_popescu: a. this is why mpex model has to take over bitcoinworkd ;
mircea_popescu: b. fucking hell people need to learn to report. the good and the bad.
Lyspooner: hello, how are everyone's assets performing?
topace: bitcoin businesses just shouldnt host their sites in places like that... you need my iris scan to change anything on any of my accounts at the data center, and even if they had access t my account, they couldnt do anything with it, as the physical boxes belong to me and no settings can be changed from the datacenter admin staff without having my own system's root passwords
topace: they say their system can detect a live eye form a dead one
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.469 = 0.938 BTC [-]
kakobreklaaa: would be one life better for you if they had worse eye decetion system
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.469 = 0.938 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.4681 = 21.0645 BTC [-]
gribble: Current Blocks: 224416 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1375 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 2 hours, 32 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4771119.08352 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.23202
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00499969 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 157 @ 0.00485 = 0.7615 BTC [-]
topace: drop some more, i wanna buy back in
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 840 @ 0.0055 = 4.62 BTC [-]
Namworld: Thick: if many want to withdraw to have BTC ready...
Namworld: might mean many are expecting the current BTC price to be a bubble and want to be ready to sell
Namworld: You can see very low amount of asks...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13729 @ 0.00074448 = 10.221 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4889 @ 0.00074218 = 3.6285 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5932 @ 0.00074217 = 4.4026 BTC [-]
pigeons: way to jinx it ThickAsThieves
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.51020, Best ask: 39.58506, Bid-ask spread: 0.07486, Last trade: 39.51020, 24 hour volume: 82491.79614755, 24 hour low: 36.00012, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 39.07380
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 41.20198681 / 46.0855546 (no shares, 6,242.04 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
ZedsterX: since its virgin territory on one really knows what to do
gribble: There are currently 7344.3475 bitcoins offered at or under 41.0 USD, worth 299081.1159 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0019 seconds
Namworld: in the near future as in next 2 months
Namworld: Price would certainly crash soon afterward
ZedsterX: yeah too fast...this is too fast
gribble: A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2846687.2846 USD and would take the last price down to 16.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 28.4669 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0103 seconds
ZedsterX: thestringpuller: i was wondering just that last night how big a chunk it would take
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00667 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00667 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 15 @ 0.00666 = 0.0999 BTC [-]
dub: hehThe URL that you are attempting to access is a potential security risk. Trend Micro OfficeScan has blocked this URL in keeping with network security policy.
dub: the first time trend has ever been useful
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.00609 = 0.0548 BTC [+]
pigeons: this is the guy who runs the esecurity assets which supposedly run a ddos prevention service
Lyspooner: but what if i want to send an order to buttplox
jurov: Lyspooner, we run our own buttplox : mpex.coinbr.com
jurov: and there are more
jurov: that will surface if needed
jurov: lol, rape with BFG... quite an overkill
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18158 @ 0.00074708 = 13.5655 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816842 @ 0.00075 = 612.6315 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 23 @ 0.0052 = 0.1196 BTC [+]
jurov: 816842 @ 0.00075 = 612.6315 wat
Namworld: there was another for much more earlier
jurov: i don't understand what's happening here anymore
jurov: or rather, i was thinking i understand and i was wriong
B0g4r7_: I don't know how I understand some of this stuff.
B0g4r7_: Sometimes if I take a step back and look at it, I'm like 'wat?'
B0g4r7_: "I got mah GPUs mining LTC" :step back: 'wat?'
jurov: at least you got nice heating. that's what matters.
dub: s.dice moar like s.deuce
mircea_popescu: well it's good news in any event, helps support the book.
Ukto: pigeons: that crypto-trade is by Neotrix the eSecurity assets on btct/ltc
Ukto: being in HK I believe its highly illegal there too :)
Ukto: seeing as eCurrencies are very illegal in china/hk
Ukto: there are actual laws aginst eCurrencies in china/hk
pigeons: yeah explicitly illegal now
Ukto: china MUST maintain control.
jcpham: laws are always fun when they chnge
mircea_popescu: so wait. bitcoin is a. illegal in china ; b. on some senator's deathlist in the us ; c. sorta neutral in europe.
pigeons: its moral until Luke-Jr says its wrong
jcpham: laws that are moral and laws that are cultoral have different meaning to me
jcpham: china's new law is cultural and has nothing to do with morality
mircea_popescu: you know i can bringa pretty good set of arguments that rape is cultural not moral in this scheme
jcpham: we're getting dangerous close to the idea of right vs. wrong
jcpham: that's the beauty of it, it is all arbitrary
kakobreklaaa: im just dicking around, since i sound like a tits but mean dick.
jcpham: situationally speaking the act of rape can be amoraaly wrong or culturally wrong or both
mircea_popescu: well what the fuck am i doing here, am i beheading this rapist guy or not ?
jcpham: everyone else can decide as long as i'm not raped
jcpham: once i'm raped then i have to decide
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 39.79000, Best ask: 39.99400, Bid-ask spread: 0.20400, Last trade: 39.99400, 24 hour volume: 83112.64777389, 24 hour low: 36.00012, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 39.12581
jcpham: i forgot what we were talking about
jcpham: the point i was making is that rape is strictly prohibited
Ukto: financially or physically? :P
dub: remember beign raped is punishable by death in places
mircea_popescu: some places discriminate for the victim, some for the perpetrator
Ukto: and those countries usually hit the woman for cheating if married
kakobreklaaa: 21:51.52 ( mircea_popescu ) some even inssit they marry.
dub: Ukto: there was a case in dubai a while back where the wife/gf of a guy who cheated on her was jailed because she caught them having sex and three people in a room where sex is happening is a crime
mircea_popescu: that dumbass law btw is the reason i never went to dubai.
dub: yeah fuck that place
dub: the mandatory 4 years in jail for drugs thing.. when they don;t publish what drugs are illegal and frequently jail people carrying over the counter pharmacy drugs perfectly legal int eh country of origin
dub: oh you had a headache and bought ibuprofen with you? tough shit, see you in 4 years
pigeons: yes even if you are only stopping over on the plane en route to another country and never get out
pigeons: melatonin is the one that gets the press for leaving you in jail in dubai if you're travelling from Britain to australia and stop in dubia
pigeons: although if poppy seeds fall off your in-flight bagel onto your shirt you're jailed as well
pigeons: and don't forget their magic machines that can detect undetectable amounts of cannabis under the dirt clung to your shoes
mircea_popescu: the only upside is that they have two law tiers, which is nice (the us does too)
mircea_popescu: so you can go on a special "is not a mook" ticket and just do coke off model butt with the sheiks
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.548 = 1.096 BTC [+]
pigeons: forein women are allowed to read if they do it in private
dub: sooner the jews and arabs nuke each other into oblivion the better
Lyspooner: i was disappointed to learn that the 1500 russians injured when the meteorite exploded above their heads were mostly treated for cuts related to broken glass
Lyspooner: that they got hit with space rocks
dub: better if they started growing tentacles
Lyspooner: tentacles probably take weeks to grow
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner si is one of the more common elements. when heated it makes glass. most meteorites that ain't metallic are obsydian basically.
iz: what's cooler, obsidian from a meteorite or obsidian from a volcano?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.5489 = 2.7445 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.53162 = 10.6324 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 40.01667, Best ask: 40.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.17333, Last trade: 40.16999, 24 hour volume: 83584.00647079, 24 hour low: 36.00012, 24 hour high: 40.64625, 24 hour vwap: 39.14721
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 646 @ 0.00569 = 3.6757 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1900 @ 0.00500001 = 9.5 BTC [-]
ZedsterX: jurov: A new motion has been posted on ASICMINER-PT i see no motion?
jurov: i have nothing wrt asicminer-pt
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00608 = 0.0912 BTC [-]
burnside: gotta be a caching thing, one sec.
ZedsterX: i gotta run just thought ya should know
Namworld: 0.00608? Common, S.DICE-PT is like 6.5% cheaper
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00569 = 0.0854 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.53162 BTC [-]
B0g4r7_: Heya burnside. You gonna have some Startum h4wtness for us?
burnside: had a 600 second cache when it should have only been 60
burnside: I really want to get stratum going, I'm testing it via our DDoS service.
burnside: Gotta make sure it works through 'em
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18055 @ 0.00074217 = 13.3999 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00500001 = 0.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00500001 = 4.5 BTC [-]
burnside: hey all, the motion is up on ASICMINER-PT, grants 90 days no maintenance fees (in theory, should be long enough for Friedcat to get his exchange going) and also reduces the maintenance in tiers down to 0.5% if there are more than 10k shares being maintained.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.525 = 1.05 BTC [-]
dub: anyone here want 100 asicminer?
burnside: should cover all the bases, highly recommend approval, as there's no downside for shareholders.
dub: idk, what are the going for?
dub: looks like .65 on teh PTs
burnside: ours are more expensive because I had to secure a call option to get it started.
mircea_popescu: <dub> why the disparity? << because not beingon an exchange sucks.
ThickAsThieves: there are only 2 ppl selling on the PT's. INAU, and Burnside, right?
burnside: but there's benefits there too. don't have to deal with trust issues, escrow, etc.
burnside: yeah, liquidity will be much better on and exchange if you need to move fast
burnside: yeah, I think right now it's INAU's shares on BF. I'm not certain of that.
Anduckkk: how much asicminer got mining hash rate?
Anduckkk: i can sell 18 shares (asicminer) for 0.65 each
burnside: I'm hoping I can sell all 1000 in short order because it'll let me issue a small refund that'll bring the price down a bit.
burnside: with the premium on the option the shares are more expensive in lower volume
ZedsterX: burnie like the motion but ya know nice guys never win
burnside: haha, ZedsterX, I kinda like my utopian bubble.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.5489 = 2.7445 BTC [+]
burnside: I hear ya, didn't get 'em at 55 tho. breakeven is around 64 if all 1000 sell