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BingoBongo: I heard PrimeAsic, that 99% chance of scam is responsive to inquiries again...
jborkl: If you were a asshole scammer, you would probably run off with Nefario, Piratits, and the list goes on. I am not concerned if you are a asshole, that is not my problem
jborkl: :)
jborkl: people seem to get confused, you are one of the only ones that has not run away, yet they accuse you all the time
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43500001 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo i kinda stopped following
mircea_popescu: i mean... this is vegas. you get a chance.
mircea_popescu: jborkl sometimes people say the things they most fear. it's a defense mechanism.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.65 = 13 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43500001 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: !ticker m S.DICE
thestringpuller: dude seriously
thestringpuller: MIRCEA FIX THIS
assbot: Quest for vision is a great blessing.
thestringpuller: This is what you get for making people mad.
dub: fix what?
dub: http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif this is possibly the most useful gif ever
thestringpuller: dub you rule sometimes
thestringpuller: just wow
dub: I can't take credit its from the forum
BingoBongo: Eh, I figured PrimeAsic blew their chance earlier this week. I'm having trouble figuring out if they are a well planned scam, troll, or both.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
Eduard_Munteanu: Is mpex.co down?
Eduard_Munteanu: Err... /topic. Sorry. :)
mircea_popescu: Eduard_Munteanu you've missed out on an entire saga.
jborkl: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 1000 BTC [+]
jurov: bitvps gets 2nd round
jurov: poor jcpham
mircea_popescu: jurov what's that mean ?
mircea_popescu: jborkl lol you gave me a start.
Eduard_Munteanu: Nothing important, I just wanted to peek at the options prices. Placing my overnight orders on mtgox...
jborkl: Lol
mircea_popescu: Eduard_Munteanu mostly the open interest covered yest.
jborkl: I should have /nick but I didnt want people to really have a heart attack
mircea_popescu: bitcoinity dead again ? ;/
jurov: we were making my vps accessible under another addy, suddenly mgmt froze again
mircea_popescu: lol
Eduard_Munteanu: bitcoincharts.com is dead as well. :(
mircea_popescu: oix : "7d": {"avg": "4713745617","min": "3024713516","max": "4853472885","vsh": "no","vsa": "2.62504497419E+12","cnt": ""}
jurov: it works here
mircea_popescu: it's relatively stale tho.
Eduard_Munteanu: jurov: can you see any chart here? http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/
jurov: yes, dispalyes quickly
Eduard_Munteanu: Only the top ribbon on that page loads.
Eduard_Munteanu: Hm.
mircea_popescu: i cant see it either
Eduard_Munteanu: Some #mtgox op told me they've banned most of my provider (RDS).
mircea_popescu: heh
Eduard_Munteanu: I should probably switch to IPv6 or get a static address.
Eduard_Munteanu: The former sounds like a better idea.
mircea_popescu: i think more than just mpex, tis a test for bitcoins in general.
Eduard_Munteanu: Yeah.
mircea_popescu: pretty much every service is getting hit someway
mircea_popescu: the network itself was struggling with txs yest
mircea_popescu: growth pains.
thestringpuller: blockchain.info is down
Eduard_Munteanu: Also, all those chart / live data services merely do client-side lookups through the mtgox API, it seems. Instead of caching and relaying data.
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.24999 = 0.5 BTC [+]
Eduard_Munteanu: I guess mtgox is suddenly getting DDoSed by that, not to mention the actual transactions.
jurov: blockchain up here
Eduard_Munteanu: Oh, well, I've placed my orders for the night, pretty conservative.
mircea_popescu: live data would not cache by the definition of the term
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
FabianB: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 36 minutes and 4 seconds
kakobrekla: prime asic broke ze chain
mircea_popescu: dude again over half hour ?!
mircea_popescu: this is atrocious.
mircea_popescu: yest i had txs lay stale for > 6 hours before being included in a block.
kakobrekla: smpake would be useful.
BingoBongo: Pools getting attacked?
mircea_popescu: and im not exactly talking 10 bitcoins here
kakobrekla: it was 11.
mircea_popescu: people were liek "o, your bitcoind is ddosed too ?" and i was like no dude, the tx is out since noon '/
kakobrekla: yeah
kakobrekla: paypal looks nice again
mircea_popescu: totally.
benkay: same question as BingoBongo: are pools being ddosed as well?
thestringpuller: http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif http://i.imgur.com/A9ir3GI.gif
jurov: so, phungus from bitvps blames me and he won't enable my vps access anymore
mircea_popescu: lol
jurov: best time to withdraw everything and leave
jurov: mircea_popescu , will you let me?
mircea_popescu: let you what ?
thestringpuller: coinbr is down?
jurov: sell&withdraw everything from coinbr acct
jurov: and blame bitvps
mircea_popescu: yes, but you have to consider if you sell right now you're hurting customers.
mircea_popescu: not sure what consolation blaming bitvps will be.
jurov: you didn't understand me.. i can now vanish with all customers funds
mircea_popescu: anyway, par for the course for "hosting" out there : sure we can do it sir! o you mean things actually need to be done ? sorry, pls go to somewhere else.
jurov: as so many ppl did
mircea_popescu: if you ask them they're hosting corps, offer things like unlimited bw.
mircea_popescu: tghen if you serve 500 pages in a day it's suddenly... we're only hosters if you don't get traffic.
jurov: and if you attract ddos, you must apologize.
mircea_popescu: anyway, their upstream/colo host prolly told them to not do it again or else get a real connection
jurov: but yeah, I do have recent enough coinbr backups and am not running away.
mircea_popescu: good.
jurov: dunno if i should make me killer coffee and set it up or it can wait till tomorrow
mircea_popescu: i think it can wait till tomorrow.
jurov: mircea_popescu, how it looks on your side?
mircea_popescu: should be getting everything online today technically since it's almost 1am
mircea_popescu: but maybe get an account with a good ddos protected host.
mircea_popescu: because i tell you something, when they won't be able to take me down they'll harass you
mircea_popescu: and you have a much larger userbase crossection, you'll read plenty of shit in the forum
jurov: i know... hope i bought some time with amazon, plan to set up some load balancing there quickly
mircea_popescu: prolly your best path of action on a personal level is
mircea_popescu: get some sleep now
mircea_popescu: wake naturally
mircea_popescu: deal with it then
jurov: heh okay.. if i manage to get asleep
Anduck: !ticker m s.mpoe
assbot: Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you?
jborkl: Mp or Jurov - are there a bunch of pending market orders to fill?
jurov: no, they are filled normally - see live.coinbr.com
mircea_popescu: jborkl nope.
jborkl: good
mircea_popescu: today is mpex sunday :D
jborkl: all of the coinbr are down for me and have been
jurov: jborkl, prolly stale DNS entries
jurov: same problem here, my isp insists caching them, had to change dns server
mircea_popescu: page hangs for me atm
mircea_popescu: but it does find your domain/favicon
jurov: http://coinbr.com should work at least, https is not set up yet so it fails
jurov: and mpex. and live. did not have dns expiration so they linger up pointing to bitvps
mircea_popescu: ah i c
BingoBongo: 224744 2 minutes 443 25.33651677 BTC Deepbit 249kb; 224743 4 minutes 581 25.48650003 BTC 199.101.100.218 243kb
BingoBongo: Interesting last couple blocks
BingoBongo: Barely more than the block reward in transactions and nearly a quarter megabyte each
mircea_popescu: indeed
BingoBongo: And these big barely more than 25 BTC blocks continue...
benkay: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 4 minutes and 12 seconds
nanotube: mircea_popescu: how goes the botting? :)
Diablo-D3: smickles: lol you asshole
mircea_popescu: slowly it seems
BitHub: Hey, anyone seen Namworld around?
nanotube: mircea_popescu: heh ic
mircea_popescu: BitHub he just joined
BitHub: lulz
BitHub: ahh man i really shouldn't use this thing when i first wake up
BitHub: thanks mircea, how are you by the way?
Namworld: I'm here now. What do you need?
BitHub: i'll pm you
BitHub: brb first tho
mircea_popescu: i'm great.
Namworld: Did you get any demand for fees to stop the DDoS yet??
Namworld: Or is the DDoS done out of spite or something
Namworld: I need to go in and make a deposit/trade
Namworld: Can you take manual deposits for now?
Diablo-D3: heh what ddos?
Namworld: MPEx getting ddos'ed
Diablo-D3: lame
BitHub: meanwhile btcjam goes on
Namworld: No one cares about BTCjam... that's why
BitHub: haha
kmg: test
deadweasel: nice topic
deadweasel: anybody else listen to Takenobu?
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.005979 = 0.1196 BTC [-]
deadweasel: asian violinist.
deadweasel: he killed my weasel with music.
smickles: namworld yeah, ddos
mod6: 6 blocks mined in 17 minutes?!
smickles: sillything to Do to
mircea_popescu: Namworld no demands.
mod6: its like faaaasst, then sloooow
mircea_popescu: mod6 weirdhuh
smickles: mod6 I've heard that randomness is clumsy
smickles: we, clumpy
mod6: heheh
mod6: it is strange though... its like they kick up the ASCIs and grab a few blocks then turn 'em down to keep the difficulty in check?
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.00899 = 0.0809 BTC [+]
smickles: thatwouldn't work afaik
mod6: thats good! lol
mod6: im not sure wtf is goin on
mircea_popescu: mod6 maybe overheating issues
mod6: ahh.
kakobrekla: clock buffers.
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,diff
gribble: 4367876.0008422
mircea_popescu: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4749519.86453 based on data since last change | 4759411.19664 based on data for last three days
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.08999 BTC [+]
benkay: allo kakobrekla
kakobrekla: allo allo
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [-]
benkay: may i please have user name for mpex socket?
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.00899 = 0.036 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: see pm
assbot: [BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.009 = 0.9 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 3 minutes and 20 seconds
error4733: freenode under DDoS
error4733: SELL SELL SELL
mircea_popescu: heh
Bowjob: selll
Bowjob: sell
mircea_popescu: error4733 did they announce ?
Bowjob: mp is your trolling SA contest still up for grabs?
mircea_popescu: sure.
Bowjob: im trolling gfaqs with coins as practice.. still training
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: kk
mircea_popescu: lol remember when i used to pay .5 btc for an account there
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 389 @ 0.0007 = 0.2723 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: now it's like... 0.2 ?
mircea_popescu: lol.
Bowjob: yah i guess
mircea_popescu: they shrunk.
Bowjob: someone gambled 17 BTC to S.Dice with their Mt gox account
Bowjob: it seems the gamble won..
Bowjob: but theres no way to tel from which account it came from...
Bowjob: so the gambler is SOL it seems
mircea_popescu: ouch
mircea_popescu: pity we don't have the rota anymoar.
Bowjob: maybe that guy was angle shooting
Bowjob: saying he accidentally sent it to dice instead of his account
Bowjob: so erik would refund him
Bowjob: the same thing happened to this dude back then in dec, lost 50 btc
mircea_popescu: possibly so.
sgornick: Bowjob: There's someone on the forum just claiming 21 lost that way.
Bowjob: yeah were tlking about the same guy
Bowjob: he bet 17, won it.. but then the money got sent to mt gox
sgornick: > but theres no way to tel from which account it came from...
sgornick: You mean to which Mt. Gox account it went.
sgornick: Well, Mt Gox can tell. They have better things to do than track down mistakenly made SD payments though.
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.38580, Best ask: 42.39209, Bid-ask spread: 0.00629, Last trade: 42.39209, 24 hour volume: 118703.21738512, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.39283
mircea_popescu: that guy must be real confused.
mircea_popescu: hey, is it the guy who misidentified someone else's bet on bitbet as his own and rose hell here a few days ago ?
BingoBongo: If only I could reread that post on Trilema...
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo which ?
BingoBongo: The BBet post.
mircea_popescu: o o
BingoBongo: Mr. Imaginary bet.
BingoBongo: I actually came on here today because i was wondering why I couldn't ready your classic on the housing crisis.
BingoBongo: *read
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo http://pastebin.com/TkqAG5ie
BingoBongo: Thanks. Have you though about just storing a copy of the Trilema archive in the namecoin blockchain. I don't think they'd mind.
mircea_popescu: you know trilema is like 7k articles, over 10mb of plaintext
mircea_popescu: ahem
mircea_popescu: over 10mn words = like 70mb of text
BingoBongo: It's namecoin. They'll take anything.
mircea_popescu: lmao
mod6: lol oh yeah JimRogers
thestringpuller: ;;calc 2.5 / 7
gribble: 0.357142857143
thestringpuller: ;;calc (2.5 / 7) * 140
gribble: 50
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.70000, Best ask: 42.81500, Bid-ask spread: 0.11500, Last trade: 42.78384, 24 hour volume: 114078.83449030, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.60795
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4755826.83674 based on data since last change | 4747165.78694 based on data for last three days
BingoBongo: ;;asks 1000
gribble: There are currently 111370.77 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 9613421.27709 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0052 seconds
BingoBongo: Sell orders about trippled since the last time I asked that...
Bowjob: eh
Bowjob: wait till they hit 10k
Namworld: They won't hit 10k...
BingoBongo: ;;asks 10000
gribble: There are currently 115133.36 bitcoins offered at or under 10000.0 USD, worth 17157717.7085 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0056 seconds
BingoBongo: Maybe they will...
Namworld: No...
Namworld: as price go up, people tend to start putting money in the way.
BingoBongo: ;;asks 100
gribble: There are currently 98810.011 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 5632319.28639 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0051 seconds
Namworld: So no manual deposit I get it...
aethero: What happened to MPEX?
Namworld: being DDoS'ed
aethero: What type of ddos?
Namworld: I have no idea
Namworld: anyway, MPEx will be getting an upgrade too
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.75902, Best ask: 41.98351, Bid-ask spread: 0.22449, Last trade: 41.75902, 24 hour volume: 112921.07904056, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.64678
Namworld: You can access MPEx from a proxy such as: http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Bowjob: oh no. we are crashing again
Namworld: But you'll see there's an updating message.
Namworld: Bowjob: of course...
aethero: erk
Namworld: Why would price madly like that and stay like that?
jcpham: i'm gona have to say bitcoin
Namworld: Wrong answer... that's the answer to why it raised, not why it would stay like that.
jcpham: heh
dub: its a jcsham
BingoBongo: You'd be surprised Namworld the things that Dunning-Kruger can explain. It's like the new Goodwin, but for the Slate crowd.
Namworld: What does Dunning-Kruger has to do with it?
Namworld: Everyone thinks they're skilled because they buy BTC higher and higher because it keeps going higher and higher?
BingoBongo: It's why we could hit 10,000. Coinlab biting off more than they can chew and somehow instead of a flash crash we get a flash rally when they are hacked. Also yes your second point.
BingoBongo: A combination of the two could probably make a new normal though.
Chilca: mpex still down?
dub: yes
Chilca: thanks, is there any status of the DDOS?
Namworld: I bet after it all settles, people who kept buying will be apoplectic with explanations and sound just like people after the dotcom bubble...
Bugpowder: I will tell u skilled
Bugpowder: Sell 500 at 47-48.89
Bugpowder: Buy 200 @ 36.17 and 33.335
Bugpowder: Sell 100@ 44.47
dub: Chilca: sounds like it is ongoing but mpex has now been taken offline for upgrades
Bugpowder: Sign up for gox wire
Bugpowder: Come back mpex
jborkl_: Bitcoin chart reminds me of silver chart,just compressed
Namworld: MPEx is a bit late on schedule for the upgrades
dub: he said the 8th
mircea_popescu: well... it's like 4am on the 8th so.
mircea_popescu: a bit later than 1am
Namworld: yeah
dub: its actually 3pm on teh 8th
dub: in the earliest TZ anyway
mircea_popescu: a well
Namworld: Honestly, with upgrades, it's always hard to estimate.
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.80100, Best ask: 41.98351, Bid-ask spread: 0.18251, Last trade: 41.91771, 24 hour volume: 109127.80902302, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.65552
Namworld: Can take twice or half the time or more.
mircea_popescu: anyweay, the first irc bot should be around in a few hours i think
Namworld: irc bot?
mircea_popescu: yes.
Namworld: I'm curious about that now.
Diablo-D3: oh?
reddddd: @CoinBr What's the point of having a support forum if you're not going to use it more major stuff like this?
dub: you can get to coinbr?
dub: oh bitcoinforum.com, good point
reddddd: @dub, yeah
error4733: jborkl @ 3:14 http://www.businessinsider.com/this-chart-of-bitcoins-is-bananas-and-it-looks-a-lot-like-the-price-of-gold-2013-3
reddddd: CoinBr also seems to have a twitter account that could have used an update. There are so many better ways to let customers know what the hell is going on than just IRC.
mircea_popescu: reddddd there's nothing better than irc.
mircea_popescu: Namworld you'll be able to go something like #post blabla and the bot will answer with an url to a pastebin with your response.
mircea_popescu: where ofcourse blabla is the pastebin id
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.444 = 0.888 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.440001 = 1.76 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.44000006 = 1.32 BTC [-]
Namworld: neat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.5 = 4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [+]
dub: -dev is so retarded
Namworld: What's happening in there?
dub: novels are being written to explain how fees work to a novice
dub: the simple answer is bitcoin is stupid wrt fees
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.62827, Best ask: 42.79000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16173, Last trade: 42.80000, 24 hour volume: 104745.97636275, 24 hour low: 36.00000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 42.61786
mircea_popescu: "Pimples can be treated by various acne medications prescribed by a dermatologist, or purchased at a drug store with a wide variety of treatments."
mircea_popescu: dude i dunno if i'd purchase pimples
mircea_popescu: even at the store.
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: ...
BingoBongo: You know medicine is fucked when leukemia is easier to treat than pimples.
mircea_popescu: im just quoting from the retardopedia.
mircea_popescu: you know, back 300 years ago when the encyclopedists came up with the first one, it was a monument of erudition
mircea_popescu: and good writing.
BingoBongo: No encyclopedia has ever been good
mircea_popescu: diderot & d'alembert's was.
Diablo-D3: pimples is very easy to treat
Diablo-D3: modern medicine refuses to accept the treatment because they can't charge obscene amounts of money for it
Diablo-D3: take high doses of omega 6 for the rest of your life.
BingoBongo: My french isn't good enough to make an informed opinion on Diderot's
Diablo-D3: not only does it cure pimples, it cures and lessens lots of other things
BingoBongo: Leukemia is easy to treat too. Eat a bunch of methotrexate and live.
Diablo-D3: through in 5000 IU of vitamin D daily, and you'll probably add another ten years to your life
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo pick a page and read outloud
mircea_popescu: im willing to go on a limb and say you'll get my point
BingoBongo: What am I reading from again, Retardo-wiki'wiki'wiki'wha?
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo l'encyclopedie.
mircea_popescu: l'encyclopedie
BingoBongo: Rubeta: a poison derived from the juice of a frog. Juvenal wrote of a lady who mingled this kind of poison in wine and presented it to her husband
BingoBongo: from http://www.alembert.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=611399672&catid=665689230:poison&Itemid=127
BingoBongo: Seems almost more like a dictionary
BingoBongo: I'll dig deeper
BingoBongo: What little french I've read mircea_popescu has been at least 200 years newer
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: you don't have to translate it
mircea_popescu: just read it, outloud.
BitHub: almost time for teh weekend
mircea_popescu: Ce qu'on appelle bonheur, est une idée abstraite, composée de quelques idées de plaisir ; car qui n'a qu'un moment de plaisir n'est point un homme heureux ; de même qu'un moment de douleur ne fait point un homme malheureux. Le plaisir est plus rapide que le bonheur, & le bonheur plus passager que la félicité. Quand on dit je suis heureux dans ce moment, on abuse du mot, & cela ne veut dire que j'ai du plaisir : q
mircea_popescu: uand on a des plaisirs un peu répétés, on peut dans cet espace de tems se dire heureux ; quand ce bonheur dure un peu plus, c'est un état de félicité ; on est quelquefois bien loin d'être heureux dans la prospérité, comme un malade dégoûté ne mange rien d'un grand festin préparé pour lui.
Bowjob: "bonheur"
Bowjob: =boner?
mircea_popescu: sorta like a low roar happines
BingoBongo: mircea_popescu it isn't that unlike James
BingoBongo: It is a familiar sentiment
mircea_popescu: james who ?
BitHub: mircea coming to australia this weekend?
BingoBongo: William James, one of maybe three Americans introspective enough about the pecuiar brand of manic misery here to approach a reasonble target for a philosopher
mircea_popescu: ah william james. okay
mircea_popescu: BitHub not bloody likely :D
BitHub: haha
BitHub: where the bloody hell are ya
mircea_popescu: timisoara.
BitHub: lets go visit kimdotcom i'm bored
mircea_popescu: bloody hell.
mircea_popescu: send a wire. nothing happens.
BitHub: lul
mircea_popescu: call the bank ready to bite their head off for being idiots
BitHub: bloody hell
mircea_popescu: turns out... the... wire...system... is... down.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck are these people doing over there.
BitHub: seems odd when someone else says it
BitHub: being a bunch of cunty's?
mircea_popescu: the us is falling apart.
mircea_popescu: i mean, bitcoin transactions taking 6 hours ? okay. its some internet funny money nobody heard about.
mircea_popescu: but when my banker has to tell me he failed because the wire system is down...
BitHub: dood stop complaining
BitHub: i had to sit a cafe for 6 hours just to wait for 1 confirm
mircea_popescu: it's not even complaining. i'm awed i guess.
BitHub: it was hell
mod6: sup mpexbot
mod6: (20:09) < BitHub> DEATH TO SD
mod6: here we go again
mircea_popescu: lol he's trolling.
BitHub: i didn't care before till i had to start waiting hours and hours and hours for 1 confirm
BitHub: now its personal
mod6: ahh, successfull troll 9/10
mod6: oh no troll then
mircea_popescu: guess that makes me successfull troll 10/10
jcpham: mod6 agreed
jcpham: like adhd chat
mod6: this stuff about SD is getting out of hand
jcpham: i don't care so much about SD
jcpham: if txns aren't going through that's a problem
jcpham: a problem i think miners should capitalize on
jcpham: i'm not sure how though
jcpham: if SD wants its blocks mined it needs to pay a toll
jcpham: it needs a pool in its pocket
topace_: how goes the mpex upgrades/"overhaul" ?
jcpham: that's why i pay a fee on my txns, because i want them to go through
BitHub: i agree
BitHub: slap a toll in there
jcpham: specialized pools should crop up soon
mod6: what is going on...
BitHub: so you mean just a mining farm just for SD transactions?
mod6: so tx's are not being processed at all?
jcpham: in some cases they are backing up because of the 250kb block limit
jcpham: afaiunderstand it
jcpham: luke-jr and others primarily blame this on SD
jcpham: and then some say the devs should all hold hands and increase it
BingoBongo: I blame bitvisitor. At least some SD transactions carry appreciable amunts of bitcoins.
mod6: yeah, read about that shit earlier...
mod6: today has been insane even outside of btc today, hard to keep up
mod6: so basically btc is fucked
BingoBongo: Btc is only fucked in the sense it is having fun getting its dick wet
mod6: if they move up to 1Mb that buys them some time, but isn't any different then what the global central banks are doing
mod6: buying time
jcpham: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150405.0;topicseen
jcpham: the "SD is spam" idea has traction
mod6: yeah, looks like it
jcpham: http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html
jcpham: At first, most users would run network nodes, but as the
jcpham: network grows beyond a certain point, it would be left more and more to
jcpham: specialists with server farms of specialized hardware. A server farm would
jcpham: only need to have one node on the network and the rest of the LAN connects with
jcpham: that one node.
jcpham: assume we're close to the point of full node/ merkle nodes
jcpham: what happens to SD if pools or full nodes implement that patch
Diablo-D3: jcpham: dude
Diablo-D3: as it stands
Diablo-D3: without any patch
Diablo-D3: bitcoin will just shove SD tx out because they don't pay fees
BitHub: i got so angry i sold over 1000 sdice shares for whatever the fuck price, something cheap and nasty
jcpham: too much tin foil
BitHub: fuck them
jcpham: not enough beer. my apologies
mod6: i'm gonna guess they will cut SD out, and then SD will just pay fees and maybe raise betting levels?
mod6: there was talk about raising min fee to .01 or something, but that doesn't give incentive to not use anything else gay like PP
mod6: now, see, i thought that EV kept sayin how he pays fee's and the miners are getting rich off the fee's alone...
mod6: ala, something like `SD has paid more in fee's than all the rest of the tx's combined'... must find link...
mod6: one sec.
mod6: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145510.msg1559267#msg1559267
mod6: there
smickles: $coin
mpexbot: smickles: Error: "coin" is not a valid command.
smickles: fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
mod6: so i think that SD pays the fee's which is what got me so worked up this morning reading all of Luke-jr's crusade to rid the world of SD
mod6: but the blocksize thing is a seperate problem.
mircea_popescu: <BingoBongo> Btc is only fucked in the sense it is having fun getting its dick wet << this.
mircea_popescu: <topace_> how goes the mpex upgrades/"overhaul" ? << the mpexbot just showed up
mircea_popescu: jcpham read the next reply from that dude.
mircea_popescu: http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09968.html
mircea_popescu: he's brilliant.
BingoBongo: $OIX
mpexbot: BingoBongo: Error: "OIX" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: who is he anyway ?
mircea_popescu: $dix
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Error: "dix" is not a valid command.
doctor_pullfingr: can we speculate that the ddos against mpex is retaliation for SD spam?
mod6: maybe
mircea_popescu: lol i don't think luke has the resources for something like this.
BitHub: what's the price of SD now?
BitHub: wonder if its gone down a bit
mircea_popescu: BitHub not appreciably changed.
BitHub: not like yesterday when everyone thought mpex was done for hey
BingoBongo: Luke has too well developed though weird sense of ethics for a DDOS
jcpham: that message thread may wind up framed in the luvre or some shit
mircea_popescu: they did ?!
BitHub: yeah remember mircea everyone in otc was panicing
BitHub: lulz
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: mpex ain't done for till i say
mircea_popescu: and i'm niot even fat.
BitHub: fiat :P
mircea_popescu: anyone saw "seek and destroy" ?
mircea_popescu: christopher walken movie
BitHub: ummm nope
BitHub: good?
mircea_popescu: its surreal
jcpham: mircea_popescu you should partake in -otc for a bit
mircea_popescu: i dunno why it didn't get more traction, should be a cult classic.
jcpham: it's total anarchy
BitHub: what year?
mircea_popescu: 1995
mircea_popescu: jcpham lol
jcpham: it's total anarchy
BitHub: my bad jcpham
BitHub: i think its my fault
jcpham: nope
jcpham: channel needs desperately to be +m
mircea_popescu: pity it's +m and not +fuckyouyourestupid
mircea_popescu: which would be the proper name of that flag
mircea_popescu: i guess it's too long
BitHub: are you sure he's in that movie mircea?
BitHub: nothing on imdb
mircea_popescu: yes im sure.
mircea_popescu: hum lets see
mircea_popescu: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114371/
mircea_popescu: tghere. scorsese also has a cameo
mircea_popescu: he plays a tax accountant for the state of florida lol
BitHub: ahh search not seek :P
BitHub: lul scorses wtf
mircea_popescu: o sorry my bad
jcpham: i just realized the other day that mario puzo did superman
jcpham: the original screenplay
BitHub: nice same guy as godfather
jcpham: and jor-el is the fucking godfather
BitHub: ahh yeah that's right he did play jor-el
jcpham: do you think when they were filming the godfather and made money
jcpham: marlon brando was like
jcpham: you know i'd really like to be superman
mircea_popescu: lol
BitHub: fuck man how good was marlon brando
jcpham: and that was as close as he came to it
mircea_popescu: jcpham do you know the one where marlon brando went like... hey, i'd like to rape this 19 yo
mircea_popescu: and so they did it ?
jcpham: hrm sounds questionably legal
BitHub: wat?
mircea_popescu: yeah.
mircea_popescu: girl got total rape victim shock syndrome
maximian: These morons are gonna kill Bitcoin with this anti-SD crusade…
mircea_popescu: became like, a feminist and everything. total tableau.
BitHub: he raped someone?
mircea_popescu: maximian tell you something : if morons are gonna kills anything then fuck that anything.
mircea_popescu: BitHub yes.
mircea_popescu: anal sex too
mircea_popescu: with butter.
BitHub: i doubt it
mircea_popescu: its a fact.
BitHub: nah
BingoBongo: The anti-SD crusade isn't going to kill bitcoin. The crusaders are more people who liberated their bitcoins by freeing them into S.Dice's arms. Probably... except for Luke.
maximian: the problem is their little "SD is spam" meme is starting to spread
mod6: (20:48) < maximian> These morons are gonna kill Bitcoin with this anti-SD crusade... <<< this
BitHub: the coolest thing about brando was when he sent an indian woman to collect his oscar for his role in the godfather
mircea_popescu: BitHub http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-469646/I-felt-raped-Brando.html
BitHub: i "felt" raped
BitHub: lulz
mircea_popescu: maximian mod6 people fail to realise this, but there's a good reason and great strategic advantage in the girl's fuck you attitude.
mod6: (20:46) <+mod6> "First, SD has paid more mining fees than everyone else in the world, combined." << Is this a lie?
mod6: (20:46) <+Luke-Jr> mod6: yes
mod6: there it is folks
BitHub: oh yeah i remember this movie
BitHub: it was pretty friggen psycho
mircea_popescu: no meme spreads past the point where someone's holding a club
BitHub: i doubt it tho mircea
mircea_popescu: mod6 the guy's insane, sd paid like 55% of all fees ever paid
maximian: DailyAnarchist put it right it a bitcointalk thread: if nobody knew what the source of these "spam" transactions were, then the discussion would be about how to improve the system to handle more transactions. The fact that the crusaders know these transactions are from SatoshiDice has clouded their judgement.
mircea_popescu: maximian its not even that.
mod6: mircea_popescu: im /nearly/ at a loss for words.
BitHub: but even if he did, meh that's his personal life, still the best actor
mircea_popescu: it's simple drama. some people who mean very little started to notice.
mircea_popescu: and are trying to inject themselves into the public eye
mircea_popescu: how is that accomplished ? why, crusade for "the betterment".
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr is a sort of bitcoin obama.
mircea_popescu: the thing is... unlike fiat that shit doesn't work here.
BitHub: bitcoin obama lulz
mircea_popescu: well... for anything other than comedic relief.
BitHub: he gave me a pretty lulz neg review
mod6: heheh
mircea_popescu: at any rate, drama backs bitcoin, so, all this is good.
mod6: BitHub: and you're on Luke-jr's side?!?!?
maximian: it raises my hackles, I tell you! :)
BitHub: heh i'm not on his side
BitHub: but i do have beef with sdice atm
mod6: mircea_popescu: haha drama is right. BTC has more drama than Lifetime Channel.
mircea_popescu: mod6 imagine how it'll be when women finally discover it.
mircea_popescu: otc made out of ~100 middle aged women with nothing better to do
BingoBongo: bitcoin-assets we've taken the family car apart six times today just to get some quiet time
mod6: (20:54) < jcpham> luke-jr if you don't stfu about SD i'm going to burn your church down
mircea_popescu: lol
mod6: (20:54) <+Luke-Jr> jcpham: I'll be there to shoot you when you try.
mod6: (20:55) < jcpham> :)
mod6: (20:55) <+mod6> wwjd
mircea_popescu: where's that church anyway ?
BingoBongo: Rome isn't it? He's catholic his local stuff doesn't matter. I just wonder which of the BitBet pope bets are his.
mod6: FL i guess
doctor_pullfingr: GoDaddy got semi famous off the savetoby controversy. Then got really famous off the Superbowl controversy. I think S.Dice should milk this controversy for everything it's got. shout S.Dice is spam from the mountaintops
doctor_pullfingr: I own shares btw
doctor_pullfingr: http://savetoby.com/
mircea_popescu: lol
mod6: (20:58) <+Luke-Jr> anyhow, I was just trying to get a feel for how many people would run a counter-SD client if I take the time to write the code
mircea_popescu: i dunno, goddady is a piece of shit.
mod6: this is like his own fork isn't it?
maximian: evoorhees should reinvest his profits into a massive mining pool - that's probably the surest way to make the crusaders irrelevant.
mod6: i mean he's not saying that, but thats what it is.
mircea_popescu: maximian at this point in the game it's the surest way to go bankrupt.
BitHub: POS name
mircea_popescu: all the scams...
Luke-Jr: maximian: the surest way is to stop flooding and implement SD properly
Luke-Jr: maximian: far cheaper too
mircea_popescu: this is properly dood.
maximian: "properly"
mod6: Luke-Jr: what you're proposing is a hard fork of the blockchain right?
mircea_popescu: mod6 so he starts his own client, what's the big deal ?
Luke-Jr: heck, I'd even offer to do it for him except my stupid State has laws against writing code for gambling -.-
Luke-Jr: mod6: no
mod6: ok. i don't care if he starts his own client.
mircea_popescu: face facts : sooner or later Luke-Jr will end up in a little corner playing with some correct toys nobody cares about
BitHub: serious Luke?
mod6: as long as everyone else figures out how to solve the block size issue.
mircea_popescu: this is how it goes, nothing wrong in it.
BitHub: laws against writing code?
maximian: If you didn't know the origin of the transactions, what would you say?
mod6: SD is another problem
BitHub: that's crazy
mod6: or not
Luke-Jr: BitHub: yes, it's stupid
mod6: but... whatever. they're two seperate topics
BitHub: Luke so you could fly to mexico and be all sweet?
Luke-Jr: why the USA has such a big problem with gambling, I'll probably never understand
mod6: what if SD wasnt a gaming site?
Luke-Jr: BitHub: I'm not interested in relocation to Mexico.
BitHub: so online gambling is illegal but guns is sweet? haha
mod6: what if it was just some random tx's from the same host that paid the fee's?
mod6: would you say the same thing?
Luke-Jr: mod6: a flood is a flood.
BitHub: Luke-Jr ya i know was thinking if you spent a week there adn wrote the code, would that be legal?
Luke-Jr: mod6: I don't care how it's financed
Luke-Jr: BitHub: dunno
BitHub: hmm i think you would get away with it :)
mod6: Luke-Jr: ok. so what happens when there are 1,000,000 bitcoin users and they all create 5 new tx's per day.
mod6: what then? we just shut the fucking doors and go home?
mod6: christ on a pony this is idiotic
Luke-Jr: mod6: no, that's far less than SD does
mod6: you're saying that SD does more than 5 million tx's per day?
Luke-Jr: mod6: I'm saying adoption matters.
Luke-Jr: 1,000,000 nodes can handle 5 mil txs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.446 = 2.23 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: with the current broken bitcoin-qt there will never, ever, no matter what be 1mn nodes.
mircea_popescu: ever.
mod6: Luke-Jr: yes, adoption matters, you know what I have guys download? something for their android
mod6: not the full client.
mod6: i don't want them to wait 3 days
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: 1,000,000 users also brings a number more developers onboard
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr what the fuck are you thinking this is, chicken lay eggs ?
Luke-Jr: mod6: eventually, Bitcoin-Qt will be instant-on
mircea_popescu: herpderp joe sixpack becomes a dev if you aggregate 5000 of them !?
mircea_popescu: money brings devs.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.345 BTC [+]
Luke-Jr: http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg09964.html <-- Satoshi on the necessity of adoption to scale
mircea_popescu: there was never good myspace code. ever.
mircea_popescu: myspace had a billion users.
mircea_popescu: the best thing you can do for adoption to scale right now is to fix the motherfucking client.
mircea_popescu: rather than trying to argue with a tank.
Luke-Jr: the client isn't broken.
BitHub: lul myspace
mircea_popescu: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lBXQVHyQ1VA/TNczMI1ojSI/AAAAAAAAAq4/7tE5YUtGIz4/s1600/Tank_over_car.jpg
mircea_popescu: car that tried to argue with a tank.
mircea_popescu: the client is beyond broken.
mircea_popescu: actually it may be the worst piece of crap ever used by this many people.
mod6: so you're gonna make your own client, that'll have your branch (exclusion of '1dice') in there native?
mircea_popescu: simple illustrative point : i can pick a torrent worth 7gb right now, anything with less than 20 seeders
mircea_popescu: and it will be downloaded in an hour.
mircea_popescu: this means blockchain MUST be downloaded in 15 minutes tops.
mircea_popescu: TOPS.
mod6: yeah, torrents are uber fast
mircea_popescu: until the point that's the case none of you people have any business eating even.
mircea_popescu: forget having oppinions. just tap the kbd till it does it.
jcpham: lots of info for SD investors to speculate on
mod6: vote with your coins!
mod6: lol
jcpham: i think this entire chat would be insider trading somehow
jcpham: now all we have to do is collude
jcpham: publicly
mod6: bah
BingoBongo: It's IRC this is public enough...
jcpham: you would think, but...
BitHub: it is?
BingoBongo: any one know who Guest 11382 is?
Bowjob: mhm anyone think bfl wont deliver by april?
BitHub: april 1st
BitHub: deliver you a big box with a letter inside it asking for money money
BitHub: more
BingoBongo: I bet they might, BitCOin's just playmoney anyway
Bowjob: gah
BingoBongo: At least BitBet is online...
mod6: are tx's going through though?
BingoBongo: Investigating that now
BingoBongo: Blockchain saw it... Let's see if it confirms...
mod6: well, this one isn't too old, and it's got 19 confs: http://blockchain.info/tx/d8dac0508d27e922f957c893c896f6f887a7dc614c1aec1c89b27b943ff5be0f
mod6: ima keep lookin
BingoBongo: http://blockchain.info/tx-index/59136614/289e2dc6ac2cd1f3e8d5ec126741b304caf1e16b3e746eadd0a402dbc9910870 because the Dutch ar fucking Cuba's shit up right now...
mod6: thanks BingoBongo
BingoBongo: You're welcome. It's one of those World Baseball Classic penny bets, because apparently that didn't have enough chutzpah to attract much interest. I've had too much vodka tonight to mess with the python script so I don't know at this weight if I will clear anything, but fuck it. Bitcoin is an MMORPG and that's what I'm telling the 5-0
mod6: for real lol
SpNg: hey mircea_popescu I have been out of the loop the last couple days. What's going on with MPEx? I see that it's down right now.
BingoBongo: Bitcoin is a drama role playing game and it just so happens the tokens to play the game happen to be valued quite a bit. Like WoW gold.
mod6: im starting to think the same thing. like fast-times-at-btc-high.
BitHub: haha bingo, too true
BitHub: an expensive game of emotions
mircea_popescu: SpNg well, past coupla days its been being ddosed
mircea_popescu: finally yest they got the proxies and everything.
mircea_popescu: working on bringing all back online.
mircea_popescu: there's a forum post the girl made summing up everything
SpNg: mircea_popescu: seriously? wtf? you have a link to the post?
mircea_popescu: ok 1 sec
SpNg: any public motive?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1598165#msg1598165
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, god knows i'm well loved and i can't think of anyone or anything that'd have it in for me.
SpNg: haha. love it.
BingoBongo: Maybe Coinlab, You just debuted that OIX thing that kind of threatened to replace MT Gox spot... Though you presented it more modestly.
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo maybe.
mircea_popescu: tho tbh... what diff would it make to anyone if its gox spot or oix or a random number coming out of a hat.
mircea_popescu: as long as it's the consensus it's as good as any other, for a service provider.
BingoBongo: I mean the girl's been hammering the Gox is dead mantra and some noobs seem to be trusting her for a change. You might have survived the game long enough that people start to assume you're legit.
mircea_popescu: i think the legit part came in a while ago.
mod6: ;;gpg info mircea_popescu
gribble: User 'mircea_popescu', with keyid 8A736F0E2FB7B452, fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None, registered on Fri Jul 22 05:39:10 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=mircea_popescu . Currently not authenticated.
mircea_popescu: and the girl's been hammering the what ?!
mod6: july 22, 2011
BitHub: hammering BitHub
mod6: that's been a while now, longer than most of us
BitHub: u*
BingoBongo: The Coinlab buying Gox's USD book threatens Gox's sustainability angle
BitHub: :B
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo im not even sure they seriously want the #1 spot.
BitHub: Bingo incorrect
BingoBongo: Ah, that's just my reading.
BitHub: they're are many peeps many working on ways for americans to get around coinlab into gox
mircea_popescu: but im pretty sure nothing was bought.
mod6: ;;bc,tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 19 minutes and 16 seconds
mod6: of course
BitHub: i think you'll see a lil bump but gox should be okey :)
BingoBongo: I dunno yCombinator has all of that renting apartments out to methheads money Mircea, it was probably either bought, hyped, or humiliated. I don't think Gox was forced, but I say this with a low degree of confidence.
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo i'm with pigeons on that score :
BingoBongo: BitHub I trust it will be smooth, but the newbs opions shape the shouting
mircea_popescu: mtgox dispensed itself of the liabilitous us book
mircea_popescu: quite ellegantly at that.
BingoBongo: Coinlab probably though it was a bargain
mircea_popescu: it's how these things usually work.
mircea_popescu: after the french fiasco they certainly didn't feel the need for a replay, so.
mircea_popescu: it's a win-win : the noobs get bragging rights (which they don't know how to use, but hey, youth), mtgox gets out of some stick.
mircea_popescu: the us public becomes even more underserved, isolated, ghettoized
mircea_popescu: but then again that's unavoidable.
BingoBongo: Gox never really had the staff or skill to handle the low information customers
mircea_popescu: moreover, there's some lessons being learned here. everyone wants to be more like mpex.
BitHub: be nice is there was something just as big or popular as mtgox
BitHub: at least 4 places
BitHub: not good to depend just on mtgox?
mircea_popescu: maybe they'll crop up.
mircea_popescu: the thing is tho, the net result of mtgox's however we call it, incompetence, being stretched too thin
mircea_popescu: is that otc trade exploded,.
BingoBongo: ANd that's the crucial difference from 2011
mircea_popescu: they have been bleeding market share month by month by month. by now i wouldn't even bet they do a third.
mircea_popescu: in 2011 they had 80% hands down
mircea_popescu: this of course becomes problematic for pricing options.
mod6: ;;bc,tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 27 minutes and 56 seconds
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.63 BTC [+]
mod6: hardy fuckin har miners
BitHub: so is mpex going to do its own gox? :D
mircea_popescu: And thus it came to pass that the splendid son of bright-minded Keleos,
mircea_popescu: Dêmophôn, who was born to well-girded Metaneira
mod6: cross your fingers and pray to dog
mircea_popescu: well girded lol. that's a woman i'd like to meet.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4999988 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: BitHub nope
mod6: awe
mircea_popescu: it's not a business i know anything about whatsoever.
mircea_popescu: nor do i think it has much future
BitHub: and that's stopped you before?
BitHub: lulz
mircea_popescu: BitHub yea ?
BitHub: meh fiats
mircea_popescu: accincta.
mircea_popescu: do you suppose they meant tits ?
mircea_popescu: or ass ?
BitHub: hehe
mod6: this next block should be sizeable
BitHub: its such a good word, i use it for slang all the time
mod6: but its a 250k limit so the joke's on me LOL
mircea_popescu: i never understood how that 250k limit got to be there
BingoBongo: mod6 I would bet my bet makes it in this next block...
mod6: yeah, it should
mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, that seems pretty strange to me now.
Bowjob: 1 TB limit
Bowjob: raise dat limit
mircea_popescu: mod6 and you see, here's the problem :
mircea_popescu: recently i discovered the way bitcoind works is all quirky and based on assumptive limitations like that.
mircea_popescu: im starting to think one or several idiots can't code
mircea_popescu: and just write magic numbers everywhere
mircea_popescu: never heard of code and data sepparation etc.
mod6: do you believe there should be a block size limit at all?
BingoBongo: Another point for SD over most miners, BitcoinJ isn't as poorly coded as BitcoinD
mircea_popescu: mod6 well, that's moot. there was one to begin with.
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo i've never read it/used it
mod6: oh... it seems to me that if 1 billion people send 1 satoshi in 5 years, it could be a 10gb block... who cares, process it
mod6: maybe im just retarded
mod6: i have been hit in the head a lot :S
mircea_popescu: mod6 the problem here tho is that bitcoin as it is is bitcoin as it is.
mircea_popescu: if i get married to you on the understanding that you always wear red underwear
mircea_popescu: as stupid as that may turn out to be, it's still in the fucking contract
BingoBongo: mircea_popescu it still follows many of the arbitrary limits (because bitcoind), but the code organization is much better. Kind of sad because well, Java.
mod6: right, so yeah, they wrote it in, no going back.
mircea_popescu: now, the only way to change something like that is the way gavin proposed it
mircea_popescu: ie, "let they who have anything to lose decide where it should be"
mircea_popescu: they who have anything to lose are, of course, the miners. so a system where miners vote somehow on standard block size may be a replacement, maybe.
mircea_popescu: BingoBongo ya srsly. why the fuck do these people make these choices.
mircea_popescu: ruby on rails. java. what the fuck.
mircea_popescu: maybe it's a bad idea for coders to be allowed to chose their language.
mod6: na, gotta be able to pick the right tool for the job... but that doesn't always mean that the guy will make the best choice
mod6: i can still use a butter knife as a screwdriver
mod6: but its not best... im just retarded
BingoBongo: WordPress and a watch only wallet powered by ArmoryD is probably how I'd write a bitcoin site if I had to.
mod6: yeah, wow. im blown away by some of this. how did I not zero in on these things?
mod6: its like punching myself in the dick
mod6: ;;bc,tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 41 minutes and 42 seconds
mod6: lol
Bowjob: s;;ticker
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.50000, Best ask: 42.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 42.50000, 24 hour volume: 78229.70545564, 24 hour low: 40.11000, 24 hour high: 45.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.23642
BingoBongo: Honestly the miners'll probably roll with whatever, making the margins work is their business. Let the pool operators cap block sizes and open up the daemon for everyone else.
BingoBongo: mod6 the bet made it in, miracle what a decent transaction fee can do
mircea_popescu: there's problem with open ended blocksize
mircea_popescu: for one, the bloat
mircea_popescu: for the other, security strictly depends on the block being finite.
mircea_popescu: and is inverse of the block length
BingoBongo: pragmatism will lead miners to cap the size of their own blocks unless they want to birth hydrocephalitic orphans
mod6: BingoBongo: ok thanks man, i see you got one conf in this block: http://blockchain.info/block-index/355466/00000000000003bbf75f37b8a331938d6fb7dc61addf7bf6a97e95f8c9c0e5f0
mod6: right, well i guess you dont want people putting in the wayback machine into the blockchain...
BingoBongo: mod6 and it is the first one. BitBet shows the bet as registered as well
mod6: good deal.
mircea_popescu: http://www.vice.com/read/new-york-cops-will-arrest-you-for-carrying-condoms
mircea_popescu: progress
mircea_popescu: have a large soda in a condom
mod6: yeah they're a bunch of Fascists
mod6: hitler was against very against smoking too
mircea_popescu: "Maybe some quota-filling cop thinks you look like a whore."
BingoBongo: Eh, take Canthaxanthin for a few months and walk around New York, some Cop will grab a real good feel.
mod6: BingoBongo: 2 confs now...
mod6: so at least with your .0025 fee, that was good enough
BingoBongo: mod6 It has been my standard fee for about a month now. I'm not patient enough to send with less.
BingoBongo: Even on small transactions it is cheaper than a wire
mod6: *nod*
mircea_popescu: what's that one do ?
BingoBongo: Canthaxanthin is a tanning pill
mod6: lol
mircea_popescu: a
mod6: ok gentlemen.
mircea_popescu: 10 cents. seems legit.
mircea_popescu: http://omg.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/dita-von-teese-stuns-first-ever-3-d-175606524.html
mircea_popescu: no, she's not baring cunt. it's worse.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.63 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00072776 = 5.9312 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5150 @ 0.00075 = 3.8625 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.96000001 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24998 BTC [-]
Rick__: When will you fix MPEx
mircea_popescu: hi Rick__
mircea_popescu: hang on for a minute here.
mircea_popescu: $post ew4aaH8L
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Server's response: http://pastebin.com/gZhCDu2b
ZedsterX: I just got up to having my comp hacked....so what is your sitch now MP?
mircea_popescu: $depth
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Server's response: http://pastebin.com/7iJS63TY
mircea_popescu: $vwap
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached
mircea_popescu: heh
smickles: wtf?!!
smickles: i'm pro yo!
ZedsterX: anyone else in the channel have problem with attacks on their comp last night?
mircea_popescu: ok so! what you folks see here is a historical moment.
mircea_popescu: mpexbot is capable of proxing mpex trade server now.
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: cute.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
ZedsterX: i guees not thx
smickles: for watever reason mpexbot's pro pastebin feature of posting >25 posts per day hasn't been enabled yet
Rick__: so what's mpexbot?
mircea_popescu: Rick__ it is a method of talking to mpex that can not be ddosed
mircea_popescu: as it has no known ip.
mircea_popescu: now, mpex infrastructure is being upgraded, and it will be back sometime today.
Rick__: okay,understand a bit
Rick__: Okay cool
Rick__: so many computer things that I dont understand
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1337 @ 0.00075 = 1.0028 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Rick__ :)
BitHub: 1337
mircea_popescu: ok so, im closing the ordering now, because i don't want inconsistencies. this is all testnet stuff.
mircea_popescu: but the good news is here to stay. mpexbot.
BitHub: is it hard to make a ticker from your api mircea?
mircea_popescu: worst case scenario just moved to "if 10 Gb pipe isn't enough to stop ddos, we just trade via mpexbot"
mircea_popescu: BitHub not really an api but still, i don't think so, it's all json after all.
BitHub: okey, hopefully i can feature a mpex ticker on my site soon, if its okey with you of course
mircea_popescu: surely.
BitHub: :) sweet
Rick__: so what's the s.dice price now?
Rick__: what command can I use to check the price
mircea_popescu: Rick__ the price hasn't appreciably changed since trade has been locked for the past ~12 hours
mircea_popescu: the PTs trade about the same levels.
mircea_popescu: !ticker btct gsdpt
assbot: [BTCT:GSDPT] 1D: 0.00596 / 0.00599 / 0.00599 (92 shares, 0.6 BTC), 7D: 0.00261 / 0.00621 / 0.0065 (28529 shares, 177.2 BTC), 30D: 0.00261 / 0.00621 / 0.00687 (139940 shares, 868.7 BTC)
mircea_popescu: !ticker havelock sdice
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.41510000 / 0.4566318 / 0.51000000 (197 shares, 89.95646538 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.55221757 / 0.68700000 (1696 shares, 936.56099770 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.63685913 / 0.76500000 (8993 shares, 5727.27416254 BTC)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4999988 = 2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4999988 = 2.5 BTC [+]
Bowjob: damn
Bowjob: shoulda bought some dice shares
Bowjob: coulda arb'd by now
Bowjob: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.49999999 BTC [+]
deadweasel: lordy they tanked on bitfunder, .004
deadweasel: are they higher somewheres else?
BitHub: jesus
BitHub: that is low
maximian: last s.dice trade on mpex was something like 0.0058
maximian: it rebounded
ZedsterX: gotta be in for the long haul and ho-pe or dump
deadweasel: what should I do with 1600 shares on bitfunder?
deadweasel: oh that
deadweasel: hold and hope
BitHub: i doubt s.dice will be here for the long run
BitHub: i would dump and pump into jah mining and collect daily divs
BitHub: that's what i been doin
maximian: I wouldn't be so sure about that. S.dice is more than just a dice game, it's a brand
BitHub: a brand>
BitHub: ?
deadweasel: i had some jah, was good, but I can't get rid of these sdice. bought at .55 sold at 75, then bought back in at .6 cos I'm still learning, that's why
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: so then if you sell at .4 you're even money
BitHub: just get rid of them all deadweasel
BitHub: and pump it into jah, anything you'll loose you'll make up in the dail divs
deadweasel: if they are 58 on mpex, know anybody who wants them at .55!
deadweasel: it's a firesale!
maximian: yes, building brand awareness is expensive. the value of s.dice's brand awareness justifies the stock price alone.
deadweasel: yeah, i'm going for divs only stocks these days. sdice may not make it to the next divs, as it is. the brand may make it through w/out the assets
maximian: Some big gaming concern is probably going to come in and scoop up s.dice
deadweasel: exactly, no more bitcoin divs
BitHub: lul gaming company
deadweasel: they'
ZedsterX: who/where is JAH?
BitHub: the core of the community hates S.DICE
maximian: An acquisition would be a great exit for all investors
BitHub: its spam
maximian: That's not true - some of the core devs, not all
BitHub: we just had a 5 hour tango convo about this before
BitHub: sorry some :)
maximian: There are enough mining pools who will always confirm s.dice transactions
deadweasel: let's not start this again
maximian: agreed :)
BitHub: agreed :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 39 @ 0.5 = 19.5 BTC [+]
BitHub: its been a good day, have you seen all the giveaways on otc?
BitHub: i even got in on the action
BitHub: gave away some btc for twitter followers heh
deadweasel: that's good business right now. +1s and followers and likes
ZedsterX: jah mining is on MPEX? I have never seen this or is it called something else
deadweasel: bitpride is going to do the same thing as sdice?
BitHub: yep when i eventually get into full marketing mode i'll pay offering btc tips for peeps who paste their address to me on twitter or fb
BitHub: :)
BitHub: better than fb's advertising system
deadweasel: you should automate it --- mechanical turk for likes.
deadweasel: real people, can't get around that
BitHub: ahh i wish i could
deadweasel: you could
BitHub: but the coding, programming stuff, me doing it? is like getting the janitor to fly the airplane
BitHub: instead of a pilot
deadweasel: spend some time to interview local college kids for an 'internship'. orjust pay them shit
BitHub: lul i'm paying a few programmers on here atm, slowly
deadweasel: until you get bigger then hire a better coder and scrap and redo
BitHub: it gets exe
deadweasel: yup
BitHub: :)
deadweasel: get the ones from india
Namworld: ZedsterX: no
deadweasel: srsly though, expectations of bitpride?
Namworld: idk about bitpride
BitHub: um bitpride i was looking at those shares but felt a bit shy
ZedsterX: Namworld: thx so where is it listed?
BitHub: its cool its something different but i dont know
Namworld: I got a few shares for the heck of it.
BitHub: bitfunder.com
deadweasel: i'd just rather have my btc going up than my shares going down.
Namworld: https://bitfunder.com/asset/JAH
ZedsterX: was buttfunder pointed at me?
ZedsterX: hehe thx guys
maximian: mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/7iJS63TY has been removed already
BitHub: is jah the only onepaying daily divs on BF?
mircea_popescu: maximian i think they die in 10 minutes
BitHub: everyone else is weekly or monthly yeah?
maximian: ah, ok
maximian: I like the idea… but what if pastebin gets DDoS'd?
mircea_popescu: $vwap
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached
mircea_popescu: heh.
maximian: that sucks
mircea_popescu: maximian move to a diff one
maximian: yeah
maximian: need a higher limit
mircea_popescu: maximian it's temporary tho. they've not credited the acct to pro status yet
maximian: i see
BitHub: ddos sucks
mircea_popescu: anyway, the surface keeps growing.
BitHub: is it really hard to combat it?
mircea_popescu: now the attacker has to take out all pastebins too ?
BitHub: or just really expensive?
mircea_popescu: BitHub it's impossible to combat it, in principle.
BitHub: shitty
mircea_popescu: mpex is pretty much the only thing that even has a prayer at it, but otherwise... nope.
BitHub: ahh yep true
mircea_popescu: they ARE expensive to do tho, so in a sense a self limiting condition
Rick__: when will be the new version of bitvps's website on?
mircea_popescu: Rick__ today.
mircea_popescu: o sorry
BitHub: any idea who's behind it?
mircea_popescu: i thought you were asking about mpecx
mircea_popescu: BitHub nope
Rick__: o,hehe
BitHub: bounty time?
Rick__: I have been waiting the new bitvps for a month
Rick__: they always say soon
Bowjob: " * Show your support in asking the MPOE exchange where the S.DICE security is located, to de-list the security until the problem is addressed."
BitHub: free membership and 5btc to whoever finds
Bowjob: guys a huge dump is happening
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150493.0
Bowjob: http://coinlab.com/
maximian: that misterbigg guy is a little slow
Bowjob: just increase the min bet
mircea_popescu: maximian he;s a funny guy. he was active in the s.dice thread back in august
Bowjob: 0.1 BTC per bet or gtfo
mircea_popescu: then the girl found out about his dirty past
mircea_popescu: so he took a break
mircea_popescu: i see he's back now
maximian: hehheh…I wonder why he bothers
Bowjob: well, it took like over an hour to confirm my tx last night
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is where the cool kids are. hard to stay away
mircea_popescu: Bowjob i had some quwued for 6.
Bowjob: damn
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: imo we need a compromise. this blockchain bloat is annoying
deadweasel: can i push from bitfunder to havelock?
Bowjob: how about increasing the min bet on all dice games
Bowjob: 0.1 or gtfo
Bowjob: that seems reasonable
deadweasel: i like that idea, until BTC is worth $100, 1000
BitHub: it wouldn't be that hard to get s.dice shut down
BitHub: i mean really
BitHub: they're based in usa right?
deadweasel: I think Sdice needs to handle the issue on their end, do their own gambling fork.
maximian: I do like all this s.dice exposure… being talked about is what keeps it on top
deadweasel: i dunno I'm not a dev,
BitHub: yeah its good pr for sure
deadweasel: anyway, how could I get my SDICE from bitfunder to havelock?
Namworld: They could easily take bitcoin deposits and have a fork for the sole purpose of calculating lucky numbers, nay?
BitHub: i just hope s.dice pays taxes
Namworld: giving a fork balance that can be cashed out... inconvenient tho
BitHub: for their sake
mircea_popescu: Namworld nay
Namworld: I don't know about that.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't be trustworthy.
deadweasel: yeah, i don't know. I have no solutions. just shrinking asset value.
smickles: gaaw, wtf are these people on about, do the really thing some script,ajax heavy site would do better against a sustained ddos than a few <tr> tags?
mircea_popescu: which people ?
Bowjob: the dice share holders will be opposed to delisting their shares
Bowjob: wtf is mrbig thinking
smickles: people like that mrbig and such
mircea_popescu: define thinking.
mircea_popescu: smickles the stupid want everything remade in their image
mircea_popescu: that such nonsense would require throwing away the edges doesn't worry them : they don't know what those are anyway
smickles: srsly, that was what I came back to when i went to the forum for the first time in a while
smickles: "grinds my gears" so to speak
Bowjob: the tx fees are there on top of the house edge yeah
smickles: and all the chuckleheads talking about raising the blocksize
smickles: yogs! all of them yogs!
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: now imagine how bitcoin would work if it were you know... like fiat
mircea_popescu: where the mobile vulgus actually had power.
mircea_popescu: it's kind of interesting how this all worked out btw. the -otc and forum, home of the unwashed masses, all revolutionary and shit. the -assets, where the landed gentry naturally gathers, all conservative.
mircea_popescu: apparently all political history is contained within people themselves.
smickles: human nature at work
BitHub: so we're making history right now?
mircea_popescu: well history is made all the time
BitHub: yeh but none of it really matters
BitHub: especially before the internet was born, real pointless stuff
mircea_popescu: hehe
BitHub: i've liked how things have played out so far but are we about to see a real dark turn in the road?
mircea_popescu: always the question.
BitHub: hmmm
OneMiner: The whole issue is wildly overblown. Some extra action will be taken to penalize spammy transactions and the blocksize always had to go up at some point. Not right now though, I think.
maximian: the issue is very polarizing for some reason
maximian: did mpexbot get ddos'd too?!
OneMiner: It's all the anarchists railing about the injustice (nay TYRANNY) of the concept that the blockchain shouldn't contain an unlimited amount of garbage.
OneMiner: Bah, I need to stop phrasing it that way. I'm not doing any good with this noise.
maximian: unlimited garbage is a problem, and needs to be dealt with
OneMiner: It will be worked out, I'm sure people will be upset for a while. But when the sun rises the next day things will look brighter.
maximian: agreed
maximian: the drama is compelling, hence the topic goes on and on
mircea_popescu: maximian haha nah
mircea_popescu: OneMiner the problem is the definition, of course.
mircea_popescu: selecting what is garbage is an overstretch of the licenses granted.
OneMiner: We feed on it right? Here we are trying to adopt a new currency, pretty much out of the blue. Right away we are overly invested relative to the rest of the world. We are all a bit nutty.
mircea_popescu: or in other words, the president don't have that authority.
mircea_popescu: http://thebotnet.com/guides-and-tutorials/49828-how-to-access-the-hidden-wiki/
mircea_popescu: that first post is hysterical.
OneMiner: mircea_popescu Except in this case we do have the authority. It's a collective as opposed to unilateral action.
mircea_popescu: "a collective" is scarce basis for authority.
OneMiner: What would be your standard?
OneMiner: We all choose which clients to run right? There's the vote right there.
mircea_popescu: unless you get your subject to agree with you, there's no basis.
mircea_popescu: sure.
OneMiner: Bam, problem solved.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.5 = 13 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if it actually was solvable that way therer wouldn't be all the whining.
mircea_popescu: the problem is tghat there's no problem, and random selection of idiots are trying to manufacture one for poluitical reasons.
mircea_popescu: which is ridiuclous, but hey, americans.
OneMiner: Well... It WILL be solved that way and there STILL will be whining.
mircea_popescu: thats how much they can do.
OneMiner: It's ok though. The alt coins proove that there is no absolute authority. Miners each have a choice of what transactions to include, the world keep turning.
mircea_popescu: indubitably.
mircea_popescu: it's funny tho, because in real world politics people consider the media's focusing on margianl nonissues as signs of some sort of conspiracy.
mircea_popescu: yet in bitcoin there's no media, and yet in bitcoin people focus on marginal nonissues instead of facing the hard stuff. like fixing the damned client.
mircea_popescu: no conspiracy. just... the nature of the human herd.
OneMiner: Cool. I just wanted to pop in with that PSA, the topic is on everybodies mind. :P I've been speaking about this all day. I'm going to bed. :)
mircea_popescu: nn
Namworld: Damn... MPEx needs to come back up. I want to put some orders in =/
OneMiner: I don't hold their views against them. The details do matter. Maybe it's the need for sleep but I can sympathize to a degree.
OneMiner: nn
maximian: I have mpex withdrawal myself
smickles: $vwap
mpexbot: smickles: Server's response: Post limit, maximum pastes per 24h reached
smickles: scumbag pastebin
mircea_popescu: eh wtf is with them ppls.
smickles: they have an excellent business model
smickles: 1. take you money
mircea_popescu: ya. charge and don't deliver
Namworld: What's the new time estimates on MPEx availability?
Namworld: Should I just go sleep and come back tomorrow or is it almost done?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.0342 BTC [+]
ZedsterX: looks like time for bed
Namworld: yeah
Namworld: Nothing else to do.
Namworld: Goodbye
mircea_popescu: namworld actually imminent
mircea_popescu: o boy poor guy
BitHub: hehe
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.345 = 0.69 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.089 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: mpex.coinbr.com
mircea_popescu: maximian ^
maximian: ahhh…. relief
maximian: ty
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.005978 = 0.0179 BTC [-]
maximian: so this is on the new 10Gb connection?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P470T] 450 @ 0.18400178 = 82.8008 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ill be around to process withdrawals/deposits for anyone needing.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00195 BTC [+]
jcpham: http://jcph.am/2013/03/08/a-letter-to-my-son/
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 815 @ 0.13708413 = 111.7236 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: you have a son ?!
jcpham: youngest bitcoin owner ever
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P410T] 680 @ 0.11119696 = 75.6139 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: interesting, puts are covering ?!
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 100 @ 0.06940607 = 6.9406 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: learn something every day.
jcpham: is 2175 the correct year
jcpham: why can i not verify that
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 650 @ 0.05313042 = 34.5348 BTC [-]
jcpham: also i'm serious about a screenplay
jcpham: consider that an opening a prologue
Namworld: I think I'll stay until my MPEx deposit is processed.
jcpham: opening scene
jcpham: kid open letter
mircea_popescu: ok this is backwards world.
mircea_popescu: mpex is closed for a day, when it reopens everyone wants to deposit.
mircea_popescu: i imagined there'd be withdrawals
mircea_popescu: Namworld hey
mjr__: lol nice
Namworld: Why? Because someone DDoS it?
mircea_popescu: i was just saying, poor guy. you went off like 5 minutes before
maximian: anyone who isn't a nervous nelly knows that it was just a temporary issue
Namworld: Yeah, well sleeping is not my forte.
mircea_popescu: hahaha good 1
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 20 @ 0.05216909 = 1.0434 BTC [-]
jurov: hi Namworld, can i redirect coinbr.com to bitvps, should the need arise?
mircea_popescu: halelujah some calls.
mjr__: mpex is back up?
mircea_popescu: mjr__ yeh
Namworld: I'd prefer if you didn't...
jurov: ;)
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P370T] 195 @ 0.06938646 = 13.5304 BTC [-]
BitHub: mpex trading via social media when its down?
mircea_popescu: BitHub but it's not down.
jurov: yes, facebook app coming shortly
BitHub: hehe
jurov: but twatter wouldn't be bad... if they had sane interface
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C270T] 214 @ 0.37437884 = 80.1171 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: now those must have been some juicy calls.
BitHub: yeah that's what im thinking, twitter could come in handy for situations like that
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7076 @ 0.00072764 = 5.1488 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00069034 = 31.4105 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42424 @ 0.00067334 = 28.5658 BTC [-]
maximian: mircea_popescu: so what about http://mpex.co ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 78 @ 0.00413 = 0.3221 BTC [-]
Namworld: still being DDoS'ed I presume
mircea_popescu: maximian there's a lot of hardware being set up. i wanted to get people a lifeline as soon as possible
maximian: ok
maximian: not critical anyway
mircea_popescu: access may be spotty over the next coupla days as everything's being assembled, but hey.
mircea_popescu: better than stone cold, i would think.
maximian: as long as trades can be executed, it's all good
mircea_popescu: jcpham if your son's called jackson are you jack ?
jcpham: definitely
jcpham: he has the same initals as me so he can assume my identity one day
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P390T] 445 @ 0.08865601 = 39.4519 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00588401 BTC [+]
jcpham: people can live forever on the internet you know
jcpham: or at least an identity can
Bowjob: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozWGvWpEamU
mircea_popescu: aha
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 750 @ 0.20943788 = 157.0784 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C290T] 389 @ 0.3278143 = 127.5198 BTC [+]
Namworld: hmm
Namworld: Who sold those P490T?
jurov: you did
Namworld: Nope.
Namworld: But if someone still wants to sell a few, I'd take some.
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00898 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 176 @ 0.00899 = 1.5822 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: it seems to me most sales are either deep calls takingprofits
mircea_popescu: or short plays like puts trying to cut losses
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 150 @ 0.009 = 1.35 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 43 @ 0.01 = 0.43 BTC [+]
Namworld: maybe
mircea_popescu: "The properties and procedures of bitcoin can solve real world problems like voting and tokenization, but for now, we use it as money."
mircea_popescu: "and we bitch like a virgin in hell if anyone explores alternate uses"
Schadenfreude: What's going on with coinbr?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Schadenfreude what is ?
Schadenfreude: Ah, figures, they removed https during maintenance
mircea_popescu: he's moved hosts iirc
Bowjob: http://life.nationalpost.com/2013/03/06/ultra-exclusive-4-7-million-lamborghini-veneno-to-challenge-ferrari-and-mclaren/
Bowjob: I'll pay maybe 50 bitcoins for that
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P490T] 225 @ 0.20947704 = 47.1323 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 85 @ 0.23623458 = 20.0799 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200000 @ 0.00075 = 150 BTC [+]
Bowjob: http://www.pinballcoin.com/#
Bowjob: this looks fun
Bowjob: lol
error4733: haha 11 fail on pinballcoin
Bowjob: what happened on 11
Bowjob: i didnt see it
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: still pending
Bowjob: mhm
error4733: 12 same
Bowjob: do you see it if i spam the free button?
mircea_popescu: Up to 17.5 million RBS banking group customers were left without their money last night as the bank’s systems crashed.
error4733: and me ?
Bowjob: Mhm, is the free button provably fair
Bowjob: i seem to lose a lot
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: shouldnt i win a lot on the free button
Namworld: the center stuff have way more paths leading to them than others... assuming each spot has the actual odds the same as if the coin had 50% falling either side of each nail.
Bowjob: i hit a 5
error4733: cool, add then with all your imaginary coin
Bowjob: mhm, i hit the free button 104 times, i made my browser slow to a crawl
jurov: finally managed to sneak into my bitvps vps..
jurov: just did mount / -f -o remount,ro ; dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/root
jurov: >:D
jurov: leave burned ground to them
error4733: haaa fail, i just try but with instawallet
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00075 = 13.5 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.65 = 9.75 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00801 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 77 @ 0.00725 = 0.5583 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.65 = 3.9 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: asicminer? :)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 335 @ 0.65 = 217.75 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: starting to move a little.
mircea_popescu: !ticker btctc asicminer-pt
assbot: [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.65 / 0.65 / 0.65 (383 shares, 249 BTC), 7D: 0.65 / 0.65004 / 0.655 (625 shares, 406.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.65004 / 0.655 (625 shares, 406.3 BTC)
Chaang-Noi: price or volume?
mircea_popescu: volume is what i meant
Chaang-Noi: otc there was a lot of movement
mircea_popescu: ah
Chaang-Noi: more than 10,000 shares sold in the last 2 to 3 weeks
mircea_popescu: price seems glued to 65 tho
Chaang-Noi: that was my fault, im fixing that right now
Chaang-Noi: only 40 shares left at .65 and then im no longer under contract to sell at that price
Chaang-Noi: after bfl fails to ship and asicminer gets 50% of the network i think 1.5 btc might trade
Chaang-Noi: you still getting ddossed?
TradeFortress: well it looks likes it
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: use mpex.coinbr.com for now.
TradeFortress: mircea_popescu, are they just targeting mpex.co and not mpex.coinbr.com?
mircea_popescu: nah
mircea_popescu: i used tghe ddos to make a lot of upgrades, not everything's ready to come up online
mircea_popescu: but i wanted to open up trade for people, so
mircea_popescu: sorta midway solution for now.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P450T] 675 @ 0.15947462 = 107.6454 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Ukto i notice you're conspicuously absent https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1599582#msg1599582
mircea_popescu: and wtf is going on in these people's heads, they're simultaneously arguing which exchanges should list and delist s.dice
mircea_popescu: what is this, the dictature of the proletariat or someshit ?! who even asked them.
Namworld: Why is the return amount needed on losses?
Namworld: the 1 satoshi or so outputs by S.DICE?
BitHub: bitcoin isn't a dictatorship?
Namworld: Can't Erik remove those? I don't see much point anyway. You can check your lucky number regardless... If you don't win, don't confirm by sending 1 satoshi?
Ukto: heh
Ukto: mircea_popescu: they are just going overkill
Ukto: it wont happen
Ukto: I was talking to Erik the other day
Ukto: yesterday? day before
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4600001 = 2.3 BTC [-]
Ukto: not worth posting
Namworld: No, but is the 1 satoshi return on loss needed?
Namworld: Seems that part could be killed at least
mircea_popescu: Namworld i guess maybe that is in fact superfluous
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why they do it this way.
Ukto: mircea_popescu: is erik even under any kind of permentant "cant just up and move" contract with mpex anyways?
mircea_popescu: yes.
Ukto: how to enforce?
mircea_popescu: some people stick to their contracts ?
mircea_popescu: what enforce.
Ukto: i mean, seems a bit draconian ?
mircea_popescu: why ?
Ukto: "you can never leave"
Ukto: i dunno
TradeFortress: mircea_popescu, yet BF does the 2nf most volume
mircea_popescu: Ukto if you think about it the only practical effect it has is it prevents accounting becoming a mess a la asicminer.
mircea_popescu: or whatever other post-glbse assets
Ukto: it worked fine there
Namworld: SD offers a lookup tool to check your lucky numbers anyway. If you lose, you can see it from the tool.
mircea_popescu: i didn't get that impression.
Ukto: Namworld ?
mircea_popescu: even with the relatively few shareholders.
Namworld: A lookup search box should be palced prominently on SD
Ukto: Namworld: join the conversation for a sec pls :P
Namworld: If you don't win, don't reply with a 1 satoshi transaction
mircea_popescu: Namworld i dunno, did erik even say at any point why they're sending it that way ?
Namworld: no... I guess so people know the bet has been processed?
Namworld: and that they lost?
TradeFortress: Namworld, people want to know if they won or not
Namworld: You can check that without a transaction... that's the point
Namworld: The 1 satoshi "You lose" transaction is kind of pointless.
mircea_popescu: well it does give closure on the spot
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 40 @ 0.65 = 26 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: maybe that's what it was.
Chaang-Noi: ahh i was going to buy them shares
TradeFortress: It worked pretty well in the early ages
TradeFortress: Maybe it's due for a change now.
mircea_popescu: ya, possibly something that's no longer needed
mircea_popescu: has erik commented on the thing at all ?
Namworld: Not sure...
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 105 @ 0.05283354 = 5.5475 BTC [-]
Namworld: I don't want to read 1 billion forum posts and stupidities just to find if Erik ever considered/commented
mircea_popescu: heh yeah.
mircea_popescu: im not sure what their point is anyway. "unspendable" ?!
mircea_popescu: well holly molly, if 1 satoshi is unspendable then what are we doing here
mircea_popescu: basically bitcoin will die a thermic death
mircea_popescu: of satoshi
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: how come colored coins are spendable but satoshi aren't ? isn't this exactly the same thing ?
mircea_popescu: perhaps im missing something.
TradeFortress: it bloats the unspent inputs
mircea_popescu: ok
mircea_popescu: but there must be a mechanism to reclaim those
mircea_popescu: otherwise we slowly leak btc
Namworld: apparently not... 1 satoshi takes more fees to transact than the satoshi itself.
Namworld: and people tend to exclude 1 satoshi transactions
mircea_popescu: interesting
Namworld: I guess that's mostly that. Not that it's actually impossible to try to send it without any fee.
Bowjob: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19utdu/hey_rstarcraft_its_my_7th_cake_day_and_youre_my/
Bowjob: Free 1 dollar to everyone
Bowjob: just commen
Bowjob: lol
mircea_popescu: Namworld if they get to be old enough don't they become free ?
Chaang-Noi: have some dust in wallet, send to dice for lulz to get rid of it, win under12000 lol
mircea_popescu: you can't really spend specified inputs can you
mircea_popescu: or are you using the pythin toolbox
TradeFortress: mircea_popescu, any output smaller than 0.01 requires fee
TradeFortress: so you can't send 1 satoshi. must send a million 1 satoshi inputs and the size of TX will make fees kill
mircea_popescu: TradeFortress days destroyed ruyles don't appply ?
TradeFortress: nope.
mircea_popescu: aha
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.005977 BTC [-]
Namworld: I see
mircea_popescu: i wonder why ?
mircea_popescu: more of the same magic number business i guess
TradeFortress: It's to apply a penalty to people who try to bloat the blockchain
Namworld: I believe in making hardblocks
mircea_popescu: i don't care so much what people intend to do TradeFortress
mircea_popescu: the point is that serious coders don't use magic numbers.
Namworld: and prunning the blockchain
TradeFortress: then be a miner and choose which TXes to accept :)
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: but its more of a codingissue
mircea_popescu: how did they come up with 0,01 ?
mircea_popescu: why not e / 100
mircea_popescu: why not fifty bitcoins
TradeFortress: because a small group of coders decided on it. a customizable fee system would be better
TradeFortress: set your own fee policy.
mircea_popescu: stupid way to code, this.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, if you're trying to apply a penalty to people who tryt to bloat the blockchain
TradeFortress: it could (not saying it is) be based on the cost it takes to process/store the TX
mircea_popescu: you want to impose a fee on txs that have small OUTPOUTS
mircea_popescu: not small inputs.
TradeFortress: mircea_popescu, it is small outputs!
mircea_popescu: if it is small outputs
TradeFortress: <TradeFortress> mircea_popescu, any output smaller than 0.01 requires fee
mircea_popescu: then i can use 10 satoshi inputs just fine
TradeFortress: sure, but you need tons of them, and kb fee.
TradeFortress: either way the fee system isn't optimal
mircea_popescu: okay, im off. later all
Namworld: later
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4600001 = 2.3 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: hey all!
Namworld: Hello
Namworld: not much trading going on right now
deadweasel: howdy
mircea_popescu: i guess not huh
jcpham: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19wq78/my_horrible_bitinstantzipzapmoneygram7eleven/
smickles: i guess pizza is what we should stick too
smickles: er, to
kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149892.0
mircea_popescu: im preparing a little bomb over here.
mircea_popescu: blockchain.info down too huh
pizzaman1337: oh noes, http://mpex.coinbr.com/ just died
topace: zomg bitcoin is exploding!
Namworld: topace: what?
topace: mpex down, blockchain.info down, block softlimit filesize reached...
topace: BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE
mircea_popescu: o srsly ?!
kakobrekla: ass related http://heahea.org/img/743-Toilet_tissue_promotion.jpg
mircea_popescu: it's fine dood
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 what are you talkin' about you troll you
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: it's back now
mircea_popescu: you prolly had a dns flicker
deadweasel: you're not kiddin. blockchain is undermaintenance
mircea_popescu: i wasn;t,no
kakobrekla: its all misterbiggs fault!
topace: what should mpex.co resolve to ?
deadweasel: that mofo
deadweasel: it should resolve to be a profitable venture
mircea_popescu: topace mpex.co nothing yet. mpex.coinbr.com is what you want
mircea_popescu: also, let me introduce everyone to mpexbot
topace: yea thats fine here
mircea_popescu: $help
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
mircea_popescu: $whois
mircea_popescu: bah i mean
mircea_popescu: $vwap
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/QhtV1Hu5
mircea_popescu: $mdepth
jurov: coinbr.com fully functional nao
mircea_popescu: lol pastebin is slow
mircea_popescu: anyway : in case our proxies get taken down, you can use mpexbot to check the json for vwap prices and market depth.
mircea_popescu: you can also issue orders through it, via $post blabla, where blabla is the url of a pastebin where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order
mircea_popescu: this functionality is disabled currently for administrative reasons, but can be flipped on at will
mircea_popescu: this ensures us against trade being taken down via ddos, unless someone manages to ddoss frenode.
mircea_popescu: there will be a 2nd bot coming online this weekend, doing roughly the same thing, just for redundancy.
jurov: and trades by email are supported automatically?
jurov: or you do the manually?
mircea_popescu: trades by email was an absolute lowest level of desperation.
mircea_popescu: we haven't reached it.
jurov: ah okay
mircea_popescu: it's just there as a possibility so people understand that no matter what happens, mpex will trade.
mircea_popescu: but atm no need for such inconvenience.
mircea_popescu: any questions ?
pizzaman1337: noob question: I've been watching some options books' and I've noticed some have buy/sell orders of 1000, with constantly changing prices. Is someone running a script with those orders, or are they mpex provided or something?
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 the 1k blocks are mpoebot quoting
mircea_popescu: ;;rated smickles
gribble: You rated user smickles on Sat Aug 25 08:39:34 2012, giving him a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: He's been running MPOE.ETF and releasing THE monthly reports, a model for all Bitcoin financial reporting. Also handled k's of BTC as broker for various clients..
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: is that just to provide liquidity or something?
Anduck: mircea_popescu: you totally should change the whole MPEX to be used via IRC
Anduck: -totally-
Anduck: just hide the ip of the bot
Anduck: and youre safe from ddos
mircea_popescu: Anduck ;;ident mpexbot
Anduck: ;;ident mpexbot
gribble: Nick 'mpexbot', with hostmask 'mpexbot!~supybot@unaffiliated/smickles/bot/mpexbot', is not identified.
Anduck: indeed
mircea_popescu: pizzaman1337 well, it's part of mpex business.
mircea_popescu: Anduck when i say mpex is the superior design this is what i mean.
pizzaman1337: ok, I see
Anduck: mircea_popescu: it's far away from superior, sorry.
Anduck: but hey
mircea_popescu: indeed. far away in the upwards.
Anduck: mircea_popescu: wanna know how to really make it superior?
Anduck: i'll tell you. really.
mircea_popescu: heh.
Anduck: the question will be do you have the possibilities to make it happenj
Anduck: which i guess, no.
Anduck: but if someone did, it would be superior.
Anduck: it's totally doable
Anduck: just that nobody has done it, yet.
mircea_popescu: so do it.
jurov: orders by phone
jurov: lol
Anduck: colored coins.
deadweasel: easy, sms via ec2 amazon services sms abilities
deadweasel: i'm from the south, we don't like colored coins 'round here
Anduck: make a system based on colored coin basis
Anduck: it would be totally awesome
mircea_popescu: Anduck after all the shit about s.dice
Anduck: and if you can, hire a group to make it happen.
mircea_popescu: do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins ?
mircea_popescu: i'd double the blockchain.
mircea_popescu: this is discussed on trilema, read that article when i get it back online.
Anduck: but... i saw porn on there :(
Anduck: well tbh i dont think colored coins would make it worse
mircea_popescu: who are you to think ?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64962.msg773413#msg773413
mircea_popescu: oops
Anduck: ok..?
mircea_popescu: wrong paste.
Anduck: yeh i see
smickles: < mircea_popescu> you can also issue orders through it, via $post blabla, where blabla is the url of a pastebin where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order
smickles: $help post
mpexbot: smickles: (post <paste key>) -- Supply a pastebin paste key containing a signed and encrypted MPEx command. Respondes with a pastebin URL with MPEx's response.
smickles: $post bi232
mpexbot: smickles: Temporarily disabled by reques of the romanian
jurov: smickles, this i asked about
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: jurov this isn;tt email tho is it ?!
jurov: no i asked smickles earlier why mpexbot doesn't do whole urls
mircea_popescu: o o
smickles: basically, because mircea_popescu didn't ask for that
mircea_popescu: jurov because a. its much easier to parse and b. because the bot can't be touching random servers
mircea_popescu: as its ip is secret
mircea_popescu: it's not that i didn't ask for it, it's that i asked for non-it.
jurov: ok, we'll see if ppl start running into pastebin limit
mircea_popescu: pro acct is 25 a year
mircea_popescu: le bomb : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1601463#msg1601463
jcpham: http://vimeo.com/61144193#
jcpham: something to get involved in finally
kakobrekla: eh?
kakobrekla: i dont think newbs should be doing this
smickles: hmm, 25 pastes per day for an unidentified user, doable
kakobrekla: id rather make a proxy parser
kakobrekla: than pay anything
kakobrekla: there must be some paste something that is not rate limited
jurov: yes, it's reddit
kakobrekla: good
kakobrekla: lets paste the mpex output to reddit
kakobrekla: let em get ddosed
smickles: heh
smickles: how about 4chan
deadweasel: couldn't you start an IRC channel that was invite only, pw protected, and people could trade with your bot in there?
deadweasel: that way you keep the rif raf from being able to poke around
deadweasel: i don't know much about IRC, but I'm sure your own system of IRC networks and servers could manage any load
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> lets paste the mpex output to reddit <<< thart was considered, and is still on the list :D
deadweasel: course EC2 doesn't allow IRC servers, not the free ones anyhow
mircea_popescu: deadweasel the idea isn't to keep the "rifraf"
mircea_popescu: this is a very heavy political issue and i won't solve it that way.
kakobrekla: or just push to github
kakobrekla: i hate github
smickles: https://gist.github.com/
mircea_popescu: well... i don't and i think the attack i've seen could actually blow them offline
deadweasel: i can see you with half you face painted blue right now, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: lol y blue ?
deadweasel: "but they will never take our, MPEX!!!!!!"
deadweasel: braveheart
smickles: lol
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/8/4080160/hackers-steal-over-12000-of-bitcoins-from-bitinstant
ThickAsThieves: also wired
mircea_popescu: haha
ThickAsThieves: http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/03/digital-thieves-pull-off-12000-bitcoin-heist/?cid=co6246174
deadweasel: holy shitsnacks
deadweasel: social engineering is great
deadweasel: teaches people to 'trust, but verify'
smickles: lol, "Who is General Failure and why is he reading my harddrive?"
jcpham: PC Load Letter _ wtf does that mean!?!
smickles: $markov
mpexbot: pizza is what i mean.
smickles: lol
mircea_popescu: capitalize first letter tho
Diablo-D3: wtf
mircea_popescu: also smickles you ever saw seek and destroy, the film ?
Diablo-D3: bitinstant got raped?
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 last week
Diablo-D3: heh, didnt hear about that
mircea_popescu: you don't read trilema enouygh, i tore them a new asshole.
Diablo-D3: why did they let that happen
Diablo-D3: its not hard to secure a machine
mircea_popescu: total stupidity.
smickles: mircea_popescu: i haven't seen that
mircea_popescu: saw a new unknown email in their dns account
mircea_popescu: deleted it and went to bed
mircea_popescu: in the morn herpderp logged into their site as admin
mircea_popescu: had credentials stolen
mircea_popescu: made post about how "security focus"
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, they should have immediately took the site offline
mircea_popescu: im like omgwtfbbq. wut wut wut ?!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5105 = 1.021 BTC [+]
davout: bitinstant got hacked
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 at the fucking least change dns pws, argue with their dns provider, and leave someone to watch that accoutn
davout: ?
mircea_popescu: davout yes.
mircea_popescu: 1 second ima pastebin
Diablo-D3: why did they even have a password for their dns shit?
mircea_popescu: not properly.
Diablo-D3: they should have been using secure certs
mircea_popescu: site5 bs
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3449 BTC [-]
smickles: anyone know how I can get supybot to send the return of my markov command instead of the 'invalid command' error mesage?
smickles: if not, i'm going code diving
mircea_popescu: davout http://pastebin.com/mHYq6g2u
davout: mircea_popescu: your blog fails to load
mircea_popescu: which is why i sent you a paste
davout: which is why I want a refund for your stupid trilema credits
davout: reading
davout: popcorn
mircea_popescu: nuh-uh
smickles: ButtPlox
mircea_popescu: i tell you sir strictly no refunds
mircea_popescu: why you come here bother me i call the police i tell you
smickles: davout: i was able to sell some of mine at a profit
mircea_popescu: ahahaha noway
smickles: put it on the order book
davout: smickles: wow
mircea_popescu: dude im starting to think smickles is that kid
davout: smickles: which order book
mircea_popescu: you know, the kid that you take to the park in the stroller, comes back with 3 strollers and a motorbike
smickles: ;;book "trilema credits"
gribble: Error: No orders for this currency present in database.
smickles: aw, mircea_popescu, you flatter me :)
mircea_popescu: they should elect you president over there
davout: smickles: haha i guess i'm not really used to the over-the-counter exchange
mircea_popescu: davout you know it does more trade than mtgox ?
mircea_popescu: those are the people you need to sell yourself to.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 1.62 = 16.2 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.62 = 3.24 BTC [+]
smickles: an easy way to do it is to go to home depot with 5 usd, buy stuff to make a water pipe, construct it and sell it to a pothead for 70 usd
mircea_popescu: lol
davout: mircea_popescu: lol fuck you
mircea_popescu: im not even kidding
mircea_popescu: (if anyone doens't know, davout is the frenchie that sold bitcoin to the banking system. bitcoin-central.net)
smickles: you still use that pic of some guitar guy as you forum avitar?
mircea_popescu: some gypo yeah
mircea_popescu: then he wonders why he's not got da volume.
davout: lol
mircea_popescu: hehe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 8 @ 1.63 = 13.04 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C250T] 87 @ 0.41809214 = 36.374 BTC [+]
smickles: 21:35 <mpexbot> do you have an inknling of a pastebin where you've uploaded your gpg encrypted clearsigned order
mircea_popescu: smickles that film... you should totally watch it.
mircea_popescu: some kickass quotes in it
smickles: 21:35 <mpexbot> do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins would make it superior?
smickles: this is going to get wacky
mircea_popescu: lmao wtf
smickles: $markov
mpexbot: but... i saw porn on there :(
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: $markov
smickles: oh, i should open it up to the public
smickles: one sec
smickles: try it now :)
mircea_popescu: $markov
mpexbot: i don't know much about IRC, but I'm sure your own system of IRC networks and servers could manage any load
mircea_popescu: $markov
mpexbot: 21:35 <mpexbot> do you have an inknling of a clue what people would say if i used colored coins 'round here
smickles: woah
mircea_popescu: should nuke strings that contain his name in <>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.000676 = 1.352 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138956.msg1601667#msg1601667
mircea_popescu: status update.
smickles: the forum is unreachable for me
pizzaman1337: me too
smickles: $markov
mpexbot: who are you talkin' about you troll you
mircea_popescu: eh no fucking way
mircea_popescu: brb paste.
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/DVMiCcff
pizzaman1337: just loaded for me
smickles: oh wait. it just had 60 second load times
mircea_popescu: derp
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.005884 BTC [-]
smickles: mpexbot: markov is
mpexbot: is heading to trilema
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.679 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: smickles "Respondes " is not english btw
mircea_popescu: you want responds
deadweasel: your bot's outta control mp!
mircea_popescu: what'd iot do ?