burnside: sucks, I know, but that's the option I got.
ThickAsThieves: and promo them as pnly 1% cit from divs, nor service fees
burnside: in a week when asicminer is doing 12TH and they're 1 BTC/ea the 3 weeks remaining on the option are going to look pretty nice.
ZedsterX: now if i only have 4 shares I still fall the 10000 share catergory right?
burnside: that was a prediction, I think I heard that they're doing 7.2TH today
burnside: it's how many are in the passthru total
ZedsterX: once again i was miss reading...geez its hard to be so slow sometimes
burnside: ThickAsThieves, I hear ya, but contracts are for when things go bad as much as they are for when things go good.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.56001, Best ask: 41.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 41.65000, 24 hour volume: 94505.95802205, 24 hour low: 36.15200, 24 hour high: 41.79000, 24 hour vwap: 39.61246
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.56001 - the oix fuckin' predicted, man!
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 20 @ 0.63494 = 12.6988 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2504 @ 0.00485 = 12.1444 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: like when it will start to go mainstream
Chaang-Noi: yeah that is kinda what i was thinking too, but 100,000 each is a bit high
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you didn't buy enough under 20 cause it was too expensive last month, did you.
Chaang-Noi: bitinstant still down and out with peoples money?
TomServo: I get 6 years would be an eternity for bitcoin, but that still seems...aggressive.
mod6: im suprised that's his only reponse to the trilema blog
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi they got fucked but it's not their fault and their #1 priority is security except not rly.
gwillen: Chaang-Noi: huh, did he just publish that?
gwillen: we've only been at $41.50 for like an hour
mod6: they seem extra scammy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99999999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, they don't seem scammy to me, but certainly veering into the "we're 18 hear us roar" sorta attitude.
mod6: yeah, they're old than that though...and they ought to start caring about security
mod6: before they have gaping anus'
mircea_popescu: i think the perspective shift from "we're trying and so nobody should criticise us" to "w'ere doing" is really difficult for most kids
mod6: well, in my 13 years of software dev in this country, it has /always/ been: Dollars first, security when we can get to it.
mircea_popescu: kinda hard to secure platforms that weren't build around security from the very beginning.
mod6: absolutly /never/ do they build shit with any security model in mind.
mircea_popescu: yea...welll... the trillions in yearly online fraud have to come from somewhere.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: no i just like seeing self inflicted crashes so rich people can profiteer
mod6: its constantly bolted on the side.
mircea_popescu: dude i totally like this bitbet. wouldn't it be the laugh of all time if i end up retiring over my bitbet stock
dub: I try to give them my money but nooo, their property is a unique snowflake that is clearly worth more than people are willing to pay
Chaang-Noi: bitinstant was down, people could not get their money/btc maybe people know now but when i went to bed 8 hours ago i had no idea why
BitHub: apirl 1st bfl comes out saying it they were joking all along
mircea_popescu: they saw the foreign email, removed it and went to bed
mircea_popescu: they make no mention of what actual measures they took for the future, and don't seem to have learned anything at all.
mircea_popescu: which shrem just went on the record saying he doesn't comprehend.
mircea_popescu: so i'm thinking... best stick to smpake and d&t's services.
Chaang-Noi: well i like veer and think bitinstant is needed for btc, but that charlie guy... lol
mircea_popescu: i don't really know either two of them, tbh. never used the bitinstant thing
Ukto: erik and charlie are both very nice
Ukto: charlie has been very busy personally lately
Ukto: and erik has been out and about traveling
Chaang-Noi: that charlie guy honestly i think might be mildly retarded. he said he was scared to take money form the fbi in his thread and i was like why? are doing something illegal? he responce was the "fedral bra inspectors" i was like wtf??
Chaang-Noi: atleast they only lost 1000 btc, could ahve been much much higher
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi there was recently a rash of small arms manufacturers refusing to deal with their rogue government there
dub: erik is clearly retarded, doesn't bode well if both of them are
Ukto: fbi doing something illegal? happens. prosocutors offering compromise to get you to do illegal acts on their behalf? happens. kimdotcom? happened.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1262 @ 0.00608 = 7.673 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.00000, Best ask: 42.05750, Bid-ask spread: 0.05750, Last trade: 42.00000, 24 hour volume: 97498.99357980, 24 hour low: 36.47000, 24 hour high: 42.50689, 24 hour vwap: 39.76206
Chaang-Noi: Ukto that is what i said, is using bitinstant an illegal act, and he would not answer me yes or no...
Chaang-Noi: Ukto he went on some childish tanget about bras to avoid the topic
Chaang-Noi: we are well into 42... i wake up and pop 41 and pop 42.. damn
Chaang-Noi: i told him i cant tell people to use bitinstant any more if he cant tell me that he does not think using it is not illegal...
Ukto: $42.68 is current high
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.00000, Best ask: 42.47121, Bid-ask spread: 0.47121, Last trade: 42.47121, 24 hour volume: 97587.14426085, 24 hour low: 36.50000, 24 hour high: 42.68943, 24 hour vwap: 39.76494
Chaang-Noi: if it was not for all the strong bids id say this is bubble:/ but it does not look like bubble:/
Chaang-Noi: i think the sellers who were going to sell sold at 28-32 expecting to get them cheaper...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.05850, Best ask: 42.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24150, Last trade: 42.05850, 24 hour volume: 97857.41109838, 24 hour low: 36.56000, 24 hour high: 42.69000, 24 hour vwap: 39.77385
Bugpowderr: Selling a little makes me have courage
Chaang-Noi: selling a little makes my family have food and nice things...
Bugpowderr: I should deposit and buy that block at .0047
jcpham: i traded afe wbitcoinf or 800$ in amazon the other day
Chaang-Noi: mp that is lol but just a stunt, the cops will get arms
jcpham: anyways Ilaunder my money through my family
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi yeah, asciilifeform was making the same point, marketing gimmick.
jcpham: buy them the things they need
jcpham: mircea_popescu i noticed that reference btw
dub: s.duece is never bouncing
jcpham: i only had about 300 BTC stolen from me
jcpham: 1600btc if i count the interest
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1262 @ 0.00569 = 7.1808 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 1600 btc wouldn't have bought a car back in sept would it have ?
jcpham: but this time last year i mined a few hundred bucks a day
jcpham: and gave it to strangers for shits and giggles
mircea_popescu: jcpham i'm still in that phase, just, the rate supports my extravagance.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.99998, Best ask: 43.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 42.99998, 24 hour volume: 98119.15011464, 24 hour low: 36.69989, 24 hour high: 43.00000, 24 hour vwap: 39.80119
jcpham: it might have bought me a yugo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13497 @ 0.00073462 = 9.9152 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34806 @ 0.00075 = 26.1045 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 908 @ 0.00608 = 5.5206 BTC [-]
jcpham: i regret all the silver bullion i've bought
jcpham: i've brought in about 100 ounces
jcpham: that i payed way to much for at this juncture
mircea_popescu: my problem was, so buy 100 ounces. da fuck do i do with it now ?
mircea_popescu: i think many people love bitcoin PRECISELY because it's so ethereal.
dub: so all these librariantarians hoard metal for the econopocalypse right?
jcpham: i really hope this price finds long term support
dub: because when everyone is starving they are goign to care about silver and gold
Ukto: [20:39] <amphipod> Mar06 02:40:52 mtgox 0.4000 @ 43.00 USD
jcpham: i have some metal on hand in case i need to trade one day
dub: protip: hoard food and ammo, nobody is goign to want your shiney metal
jcpham: i like to think i have enough shiny stuff to purchase something i might need
jcpham: but what i might need i do not know
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 24 @ 0.22 = 5.28 BTC [+]
jcpham: i also have several thousand rounds of ammo
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 10 @ 0.24103982 = 2.4104 BTC [+]
jcpham: i also have plans to lock down my little island
jcpham: should shit hit the fan
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 5 @ 0.20618917 = 1.0309 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23521087 = 235.2109 BTC [+]
dub: i don't understand how metal is supposed to have value when fiat doesnt
jcpham: the more i think about it the more i tend to agree
jcpham: my thoughts on metal have changed
gribble: There are currently 112.41585 bitcoins offered at or under 43.0 USD, worth 4833.88037854 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21048426 = 210.4843 BTC [+]
dub: sure you can make ammo out of metal but its probably cheaper ot hoard lead?
gribble: There are currently 14803.645 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 693447.9213 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.9849 seconds
mircea_popescu: <jcpham> i really hope this price finds long term support << it just might. the reason is that bitcoin with large marketcap is more useful than bitcoin with low mkt cap.
mircea_popescu: <gribble> There are currently 112.41585 bitcoins offered at or under 43.0 USD, << epic.
dub: asciilifeform: you gonna sail to another country to trade with them?
dub: asciilifeform: do you know how to make a sailboat?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.18844965 = 188.4497 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> when a nation collapses, people from nearby (and not so nearby) places come to vacuum up the valuables. << word on that.
mircea_popescu: on the collapse of bulgaria in the 90s i went there with a truck full of cans
jcpham: mircea_popescu a lot of these numbers and amths are going to be staggering from now on
jcpham: if this 50 ish range finds support
dub: mircea_popescu: what? were they hoarding the jools in their ass?
error4733: just for crush the market to 0.003
jcpham: an egg as currency makes sense if perople are hungry though
jcpham: if i was starving i'd gladly accept an egg
mircea_popescu: a three week old egg in the summer is more of a weapon than a food item
jcpham: yeah idefinitely infuse rotten egs in the supply
dub: unless you're in china
Bugpowderr: the big sale on S.DICE just got pulled
dub: and also have a horse
jcpham: that what bernanke tells me
dub: jcpham: amm and 'turkey
jcpham: or is that warren buffet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00075 = 75 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 10 @ 0.21068324 = 2.1068 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.18863313 = 188.6331 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23542766 = 235.4277 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 990 @ 0.21068324 = 208.5764 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 10 @ 0.23622767 = 2.3623 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: but for the record, there wasn't much violence at the time.
mircea_popescu: certainly less than what counts as a "quiet day" in washington dc or la.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the collapse of the serbian govt during the allied bombing didn't engender much violence at all.
mircea_popescu: direct experience shows that without a government people are pretty much doing the exact same things.
dub: just some casual genocide
jcpham: 'murica: ruining your culture with economics and technology since 1944
jcpham: mostly i blame the japanese and perl harbor for the sad state of world affairs
jcpham: i've never seen godzilla irl so...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have a piece about how lincoln is the original cause america sucks.
jcpham: British colonialism is really to blame
jcpham: or the romans if we want to really point fingers
mircea_popescu: english misunderstanding of french socialism is the problem.
jcpham: that was efore my time
jcpham: i've only been around for a few hundred years
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.65 = 13 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: twitter sez "discosync.co just won $25k on stage at @Launch."
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23679642 = 236.7964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.18982587 = 189.8259 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21195868 = 211.9587 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.90000, Best ask: 44.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 100112.20743136, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 44.00000, 24 hour vwap: 39.94269
ThickAssLaptop: "and though may never have to, it's good to have options"
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 43.71874246 / 47.83958615 (no shares, 8,160.59 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 43.71874246 / 47.83958615 (no shares, 8,160.59 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mod6: I guess it could be right, have to do the calculation, but someone bought a bunch of puts @ 75
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19079917 = 190.7992 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23791328 = 237.9133 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21299953 = 212.9995 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar06 03:10:42 mtgox x88 1,000.0000 @ 44.93371459 USD
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 10 @ 0.17096796 = 1.7097 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: jesus, i go take a shit and they are gone...
mod6: 43's are gone, and the even's wern't created this month
mod6: lots of buy and holders
Chaang-Noi: amphipod> Mar06 03:03:55 mtgox x138 1,395.9533 @ 43.97145535 USD
gribble: There are currently 11448.341 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 548166.438908 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Chaang-Noi: people are buying 1000 plus coins at a time at this price...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.06075, Best ask: 44.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23925, Last trade: 44.30000, 24 hour volume: 101787.86062457, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.04730
Chaang-Noi: and this is with people trying to buy via bitinstant and being left out of the game...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.01000, Best ask: 44.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 44.13135, 24 hour volume: 101769.80421578, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.09091
gribble: There are currently 274.49811 bitcoins offered at or under 45.0 USD, worth 12352.4148497 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
jcpham: 3 minute trade excution reported in #bitcoin
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23876878 = 238.7688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19154283 = 191.5428 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21379583 = 213.7958 BTC [+]
keith_hanson: Hm. So... I took a look at the site, but it doesn't really talk about what this channel is for. Is it just general trading talk?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 20 @ 0.29732419 = 5.9465 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 60 @ 0.26660605 = 15.9964 BTC [+]
keith_hanson: Sorry if the question is a newbtastical one heh
dub: its for rational discussion
mircea_popescu: but in general, it's for bitcoin securities related talk + porn.
dub: by containing rational discussion it is set apart from any other bitcoin forum
keith_hanson: mircea_popescu: haha, nice. I gave the website a shot, but... you have to admit, it's pretty light on any sort of information :P
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 44.86994706 / 48.55677484 (no shares, 9,470.06 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
dub: mircea_popescu: I don't pay much attention
Chaang-Noi: the spread at btc-e is about $2 most of the time, but they get cash in via bitinstant, and that is fail
Chaang-Noi: only way to get cash now is sell ltc for cash, lol
dub: are you folling at my expense?
Chaang-Noi: mo a but now yes, but its sill up 250% in 3 days
Chaang-Noi: fuck i cant type... mp yes, it is going down a bit now, but still well up
Chaang-Noi: 18.5 cents to 16 cents cuz cheap ass btc
ThickAssLaptop: actually when i press it just tells me how many btc i wanna buy, 18889
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23924296 = 239.243 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21423593 = 214.2359 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19195264 = 191.9526 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: back to 43.. atleast i get to see it trade there :)
keith_hanson: I've never understood how people arbitrage across exchanges... doesn't the transfer of bitcoins from one account to the other take hours?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.33624, Best ask: 43.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.65376, Last trade: 43.99000, 24 hour volume: 102601.01478656, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.14144
dub: I keep reading BCST instead of BTCT
dub: momentary WATing ensues
Chaang-Noi: yeah mo, im happy with anything over 25 really...
dub: im waiting for $2 again
gribble: There are currently 16666.852 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 807037.068585 USD in total. | Data vintage: 32.2206 seconds
gribble: Time since last block: 12 minutes and 17 seconds
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4749417.28355 based on data since last change | 4789887.21932 based on data for last three days
mircea_popescu: you know i suspect they've not been able to keep hash within 10% for six hour straight since the beginning of the month.
mircea_popescu: either their chips keep burning or software sucks or lots of overactive cats or wtf.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi i have a dead fish in the fridge that's kicking bfl's ass.
ThickAssLaptop: lots of shaking things up to mask hashing for themselves
mircea_popescu: ThickAssLaptop wait wut ? it's asicminer's business model to mine for themsleves.
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar06 03:42:56 btce 1.1179 @ 39.53 USD
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.50000, Best ask: 43.99000, Bid-ask spread: 1.49000, Last trade: 42.50000, 24 hour volume: 103543.75360681, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.17722
Chaang-Noi: mp they own over half the company, i dont think they will cheat much...
Chaang-Noi: he has like 60% he is going to be one rich motherfucker
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi if it ever gets to s,mpoe sort of market cap then yes.
Chaang-Noi: assuming they get 10% of the coins in one year his 60% share is about 79k btc
Chaang-Noi: just 1 year, i doubt he will need to cheat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.955 = 1.91 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.1921324 = 192.1324 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.2144312 = 214.4312 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23945589 = 239.4559 BTC [+]
keith_hanson: Sorry if I keep asking basic questions, but I'm taking you up on the intelligent discussion :P I get asked a lot where the value is coming from, and the only real answer I have is the "black market"/SR. Is that the general opinion or am I misinformed?
mircea_popescu: “It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States.”
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.529 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.528 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5278 = 1.5834 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5275 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.526 = 2.63 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5252 = 1.0504 BTC [-]
ThickAssLaptop: yes, we would like the convenience of attacking you with robots, let's keep that option open
ThickAssLaptop: we also want to wiretap so we can listen to your reaction lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.004551 = 0.4551 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00444446 = 0.4444 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00444444 = 4.4444 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7000 @ 0.0044444 = 31.1108 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 13031 @ 0.0044444 = 57.915 BTC [-]
dub: flushing the s.deuce
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21475103 = 214.751 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23980148 = 239.8015 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19242937 = 192.4294 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you suppose people are selling anything they can to get options funds ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00568 = 0.568 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19340518 = 193.4052 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.2157941 = 215.7941 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.24091935 = 240.9194 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 46.44009073 / 49.47150622 (no shares, 12,058.61 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mircea_popescu: fun fact of the day : mpoe option book notional exposure passes 3mn usd.
mircea_popescu: this is more than the combined total of all venture capital taken in by all bitcoin ventures iirc.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, just throwing that out there, see if anyone has better data.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 350 @ 0.00073 = 0.2555 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: i thought it was way undervalued but this was one hell of a pop
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5252 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: im using it to troll /g/ on 4chan they think bitcoin is a scam
mircea_popescu: kinda funny being internet's cool kids, by 185 degrees of magnitude
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.2159899 = 215.9899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.24113267 = 241.1327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19358548 = 193.5855 BTC [+]
dub: lol something bawful
Chaang-Noi: You don't have permission to access /dtng/c/src/136254317934.jpg on this server.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.5251 = 7.8765 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: . /g/ has been calling bitcoin a scam for years now... they missed the boat
mircea_popescu: "When is coinbase going to start selling bitcoins again? They've been "over their limit" for the past couple days."
Chaang-Noi: yeah.. its like the meme with fry holding the cash saying shut up and take my money...
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.03099, Best ask: 43.37291, Bid-ask spread: 0.34192, Last trade: 42.99000, 24 hour volume: 104489.74859354, 24 hour low: 36.91110, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.28010
gribble: There are currently 34857.932 bitcoins offered at or under 69.0 USD, worth 1979397.98148 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.1042 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 592 @ 0.21606942 = 127.9131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 785 @ 0.19365695 = 152.0207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 355 @ 0.24122141 = 85.6336 BTC [+]
gribble: Time since last block: 19 minutes and 11 seconds
mircea_popescu: ppl are wanting to buy options, i'm like... well i guess you might have sent it two hours ago but if it ain't confirmed it ain't confirmed.
mircea_popescu: the value of keeping your liquidity in the right places i guess.
mircea_popescu: this is officially the most exciting time of bitcoin i've ever lived.
Chaang-Noi: went to troll /g/ /g/ wants to buy... fuuuck what just happened....
Chaang-Noi: . /g/ on 4chan, said btc was a scam for years.. now they want to buy
dub: no fucking way I am hitting 4chan from work
dub: I was dude the other day with dog paw tattoo with TWINK under it, hope he never goes to teh states
Chaang-Noi: yeah dont go to 4chan at work,... even the calm and mostly safe /g/
mircea_popescu: so eu stocks at 4 year high mark, dow is busting records
dub: he probbly doesnt know knwat twink means in teh states
dub: (its a brand name here)
mircea_popescu: clearly our idiotarian policymaker friends are doing things right.
keith_hanson: being a web developer, I want to take mtgox and overhaul their UI. Their new mobile site is atrocious.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00075 = 2.7 BTC [+]
dub: just make a new exchange, gox is going to self destruct in a week anyway
dub: I thought migration to coinlol happens on the 12th
keith_hanson: mircea_popescu: uh, seriously? that's... concerning.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 106697.45574715, 24 hour low: 36.93101, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.37604
gribble: There are currently 1236.3618 bitcoins offered at or under 45.0 USD, worth 55413.0152492 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.7067 seconds
gribble: There are currently 12874.465 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 614113.730099 USD in total. | Data vintage: 64.7913 seconds
keith_hanson: I have learned more in an hour here than I have in months on reddit, bitcointalk, or any other web sources :P much appreciated
mircea_popescu: the otc system revolves around the wot, ask gribble about that.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 250 @ 0.12633113 = 31.5828 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 6 @ 0.12633113 = 0.758 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 107173.30759404, 24 hour low: 37.01715, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.42137
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 75 @ 0.15734141 = 11.8006 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19207 @ 0.00075 = 14.4053 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00450001 = 9 BTC [+]
Namworld: When people buy lots of options, usually a good time to buy S.MPOE
Namworld: Hmm, S.DICE going down down down
maximian: there's a big fat ask there at 0.0047
maximian: that would have gone in a flash last week I think
Namworld: that was before price skyrocketed
Namworld: Now everyone wants BTC in their hands
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00450001 = 4.5 BTC [+]
dub: DT going on 'holiday' to italy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0044444 = 0.4444 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00300001 = 0.3 BTC [-]
dub: praps catchign up with his best buddy alberto
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00450001 = 0.45 BTC [+]
dub: what is surprising about that?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 863500 @ 0.00075 = 647.625 BTC [+]
maximian: MPOE is in demand, on the other hand
Namworld: Of course, lots of options being traded
maximian: even though its divs performance is consistently worse than s.dice's
maximian: it must be a confidence thing. perhaps people have little faith that s.dice will be around long term.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 175000 @ 0.00075 = 131.25 BTC [+]
Namworld: I guess if you consider MPEx's track record and long term, if people expect Bitcoins to become mainstream and MPEx to retain it's #1 position to trade assets...
dub: maximian: or that there won't be any more surprise share splits
Chaang-Noi: dice at .003? id buy at that price some...
Namworld: Well S.MPOE could dramatically improve with a majority of assets trading moving to MPEx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 4000 @ 0.0015 = 6 BTC [-]
dub: Namworld: why would htat affect s.mpe?
Chaang-Noi: asic miner is the next big hot trader i bet
maximian: actually, MP has regularly dumped mpoe shares as well, but he did it differently: he placed large asks well above the market price
mircea_popescu: maximian actually more an attempt to keep it from bubbling up than anything.
maximian: evoorhees, on the other hand, sold way below market price for some crazy unfathomable reason, which was a big WTF
maximian: evoorhees could have done the same
mircea_popescu: i think the fact that mpoe/mpex can't have a lossy month for shareholders may be a factor.
dub: yes but he's an idiot
maximian: but oh well. it shook a lot of people's confidence.
mircea_popescu: if people are thinking "s.dice has consistantly been over EV" it may be a consideration.
mircea_popescu: tho tbh... it doesn't seem to account for the disparity.
dub: Namworld: I didn't know fees contributed to s.mpoe, its not just the options?
mircea_popescu: Revenue from sales fee : 187.80380028 BTC (Total trade : 93`901.90014227 BTC)
maximian: I think people know that mope is here to stay, but there's a lot of uncertainty around s.dice
maximian: and unfortunately, evoorhees is distracted with conferences and his other hobbies
mircea_popescu: maximian ironically enough s.mpoe shares were bought as low as 2k satoshi.
Namworld: no, fees, options, incorrect deposits, etc
Namworld: It's all of MPEx's income, really
mircea_popescu: ftr an incorrect deposit has yet to make it to shareholders. there was a grand total of like, 1 so far.
Namworld: good to know that people with enough BTC to trade on MPEx can manage not to screw up deposits.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, s.dice has so far paid ~50k satoshi per share in dividends to s.mpoe's ~2k
mircea_popescu: on a strictly dividend basis of accounting it's a huge gap.
mircea_popescu: course if you think about it, a corp that issues 10% divs a year is not automatically better than one that issues 3%
mircea_popescu: actually i'd be much surprised if the average retail investor could even tell you what dividend his portofolio paid
Namworld: Coca-Cola has low yearly yield.
maximian: not if everyone expects it to flame out early
Namworld: I think. Still great stock. Stable, very old company. Popular as ever.
mircea_popescu: maximian i guess maybe that's it, in spite of early explosive success people expect it to flame
Namworld: There's a few multinationals like that with low yield and high demand. Safety and stability are good to consider.
maximian: yep, high uncertainty over its future: can it maintain its market share, will evoorhees get arrested, etc
mircea_popescu: course there's another thing : on the strength of the book so far, s.mpoe could walk home with 20-30k btc.
mircea_popescu: on the strength of the action so far, s.dice is ahead what, 2k yet ?
maximian: s.dice not doing so well so far this month, but that's to be expected now and then
maximian: nobody had a problem back in november when s.dice paid zero
mircea_popescu: the immediate outlook. "shot at 20-30k with no downside" vs "not so great, maybe 2k, maybe negative"
mircea_popescu: maximian yeah but investor composition changed a lot, lots of pt holders,
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00300001 / 0.0046852 / 0.00579999 (39585 shares, 185.46 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.0058052 / 0.0063799 (554773 shares, 3,220.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00589794 / 0.007395 (6726620 shares, 39,673.22 BTC)
maximian: evoorhees has to get cracking and start promoting this thing again!
maximian: It wasn't clear that he was talking about s.dice, but it would be nice if he's hinting at an acquisition or partnership
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.20000, Best ask: 44.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 44.15000, 24 hour volume: 108129.84604915, 24 hour low: 37.41306, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.54922
maximian: imo, the best case scenario for s.dice is an acquisition by a big player looking for a quick entrance into btcland
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00075 = 13.425 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 19 mn or so are certainly nothing for sometyhing like s,dice
mircea_popescu: so a deal will prolly be a nice payout for btc shareholders.
maximian: tremendous mindshare/brand awareness for a bargain price of 19-20m
mircea_popescu: but i can see erik reasonably walking away from anything under 100mn total
maximian: yep, it's a possibility, and I believe he's the kind of guy who could pull it off.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 500 @ 0.17591975 = 87.9599 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: no better way to showcase btc success than a successful exit for him.
Namworld: I think the current success would be shorting your BTC for USD
Namworld: Buy back later at a lower price
mircea_popescu: you can sell calls short which would be doing exactly that.
mircea_popescu: I think 67117 is proxy pool. The hash output is always simillar to SLUSH's. SLUSH has 2.6% rejection rate -they obviusly proxy pooling. Still not real proof of working ASIC.
mircea_popescu: anyone rthat understands mining, how sensible is that ?
mircea_popescu: specifically, how traceable is hashing based on the reject rate ?
Namworld: network hashing is estimated based on blocks found...
mircea_popescu: obviously i can set up a mining pool account and proxy other peoples mining there.
mircea_popescu: question is, can this be at all traced based on some qualities of the hash flux
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.12509, Bid-ask spread: 0.12509, Last trade: 43.66490, 24 hour volume: 108414.79454220, 24 hour low: 37.41306, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.57198
mircea_popescu: o hey, it occurs to me, this is the right time to get hacked right ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.49100001 = 22.095 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.491 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4682 = 4.682 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4681 = 0.9362 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4674 = 0.9348 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4588 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.4511 = 8.1198 BTC [-]
aiball: mr. p. I'd say that's the biggest wild card at the moment - a high profile hack. your shit is safe right?
aiball: do you know what's wrong with s.dice price? is this just a dollar based stock?
mircea_popescu: if you read history it's been discussed just hourish ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.63494 = 1.9048 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "If you're looking for a loan for Bitcoin Poker at Seals, let me know."
mircea_popescu: "I notice there are some BTC bookies. So I thought I would help bettors win more bets. I began betting on sports back in December 2012 with a nice record so far. "
mircea_popescu: jumpin' jesus on a stick, three months is now a track record ;/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 516 @ 0.00073315 = 0.3783 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11784 @ 0.00073156 = 8.6207 BTC [-]
mod6: well -assets, its been an exciting day!
mod6: s.dice has had an interesting ride into divs, and even after... seems to be doing the inverse of what you would expect.
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 98 @ 0.00999 = 0.979 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00300002 = 0.3 BTC [-]
BitHub: its amazing the amount of amatures that i come across sometimes, they dont even have a business plan or anything and think they're going to land on an exchange or PT and be taken seriously?
Chaang-Noi: got security cams on my house, pretty need seeing my yard from my phone:)
mod6: lol from your phone even 'eh?
mod6: BitHub: well, we all have to start somewhere.
Chaang-Noi: yeah, had no idea it could do that but hell, same price
BitHub: I know, i'm about 6 months old and i wouldn't even consider doing it yet
mod6: too many amatures not enough pros, too many bitches, not enough ho's...
Chaang-Noi: got 4 rotts to garud the house, neighbors start to fuck with the rotts... so i get video camerias to protect the rotts, fucking crazy
BitHub: i met this guy maybe a month into it? no business plan, its crazy
Chaang-Noi: and i need a truck for the rotts... cuz 4 large dogs are big... but its good cuz the rotts can gaurd the truck... fucking crazy
BitHub: how do you value your company without sales?
mod6: rotts are supposed to be awesome dogs.
Chaang-Noi: they are really good, have 3 females and a male, im breeding them
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 270 @ 0.17776447 = 47.9964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.0046 = 4.37 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: bid is at .003 for dice ask is .0045? massive spread?
mircea_popescu: <mod6> too many amatures not enough pros, too many bitches, not enough ho's... << good one
mircea_popescu: i liked that line enough im now digging to find who the fuck came up with it
mod6: its an old ludacris song
mod6: lol and i mis-remembered how it goes
Chaang-Noi: they cant send the silver cuz they will lose money
mod6: "i hate it when its too many niggas, not enough hoes, too many rookies, not enough pros!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4 @ 0.0046 = 0.0184 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi he's not getting it what, are you kidding ?
Chaang-Noi: he is saying he cant give the silver because he would run out of money
Chaang-Noi: and coinibul fucked up on insurance...
mod6: coingenuity?! say it aint so!?
Chaang-Noi: how can someone who as been in btc land so long be so fucking poor?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816 @ 0.00073156 = 0.597 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1030 @ 0.00073043 = 0.7523 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7259 @ 0.00073042 = 5.3021 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: what i got from the digest was, customer paid, provider shipped, insurance blew up.
Chaang-Noi: correct insurance was paid for but not recived
eeeCurrencyDotCo: Mircea, its' peter from eee - you sent me a link to chat with you here.
Chaang-Noi: if i send you a gold bar and tell you it is insured and you pay a fee for that, but it is not insured then its a scam
Chaang-Noi: it seems they did not insure the item in the correct way, coinibul fucked up
mircea_popescu: what do you mean correctly ? like they insured the wrong item or soemthing ?
Chaang-Noi: if i ship you a gold bar, but insure a taco... its a scam
Chaang-Noi: the insureance company said the item was not insured even thought coinibal did pay a fee
eeeCurrencyDotCo: :) (hi everybody) - I'm here for a specific reason, but I saw someone mention insurance. is there someone offering insurance on btc? I had ben contemplating getting my US license to offer to be an insurance broker and perhaps do somethng
mircea_popescu: if you give me a hundred bucks to give to mod6 for towing your car
Chaang-Noi: if i send you a car from thailand and insure it, but fine print says we dont insure cars whos fault is it?
mircea_popescu: haha that's ridiculous. so are they dropping that insurer now ?
Chaang-Noi: but mp i paid you a preiumuim to do the insurance for me...
Chaang-Noi: yes mp they did a differnt insurance company cuz turned out they did not have insurance
mod6: i would guess yah, just change insuance co's and that should set it right.
Chaang-Noi: but coinibul still fucked up, the buyer is not at fault here
Chaang-Noi: well, one guy is out of 80 btc worht of silver
eeeCurrencyDotCo: isn't the liability on the person with the implied or definitive contract?
mircea_popescu: i mean, these word against word things are difficult to break up
Chaang-Noi: they have tracking to priove buyer never got package
eeeCurrencyDotCo: if you contract with person a and bring person b in to it, isnt the contract with person a, not b?
mircea_popescu: so then wait. if package never arrived it's the post ?
Chaang-Noi: the coinibul was like sorry, silver not insured, fuck off
eeeCurrencyDotCo: ups just delivered a package today and left it with no sig - who should replace the loss? ups or the shipper?
Chaang-Noi: if there is insurance they need to cover it, but if it was sold as insured and not insured its a fucking scam
mircea_popescu: i guess this is why i am not in the business of delivering bullion to the retail postage market.
mircea_popescu: sucks for margins, sucks for operations, sucks all around.
Chaang-Noi: but jesus he willl destroy his rep for 80 btc saying he has no money to give the guy silver,,, how can he be so poor and be in btc that long...
mod6: well, who knows dude.
mircea_popescu: if he does this then he's going to have a rash of people trying it.
Chaang-Noi: the buyer has proof he never got the shit...
BitHub: i hope coinabul works it out :) seems like a good kind
Chaang-Noi: i ordered from coinibul myself once, ill never do it again...
BitHub: but you two are like broooos
Chaang-Noi: and that was cuz he fucked my order up, not this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0035 = 0.35 BTC [-]
eeeCurrencyDotCo: Mircea, when is a good time to come back and chat with you about setting up an exchange, or becoming a broker, or getting listed?
mod6: well, personally, i think its a cool business (many others think its pretty neat-o too), I hope he gets it squared away.
mircea_popescu: lol is that the mtgox 1satoshi bot pushing the s.dice down ?
maximian: Hey, at least there's some action!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0046 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0046 BTC [+]
gribble: I have 16 registered users with 21 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
gribble: Current Blocks: 224491 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1300 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 21 hours, 41 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4775657.49997 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.33592
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.34351, Best ask: 44.68217, Bid-ask spread: 0.33866, Last trade: 44.68217, 24 hour volume: 105246.62244956, 24 hour low: 37.72771, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.78103
gribble: 1 BTC = 44.68217 U.S. dollars = 34.1999005 Euros
mircea_popescu: "i'ma go take a piss. by the time im back, btc is 1 ford escort per"
mircea_popescu: then it turns true and everyone is "buy kakobrekla escorts"
[\\\]: so when's the correction?
mircea_popescu: [\\\] the way my book is loaded if we go back to 30 im'a be floating in a pond of btc
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.50000, Best ask: 44.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 45.77190, 24 hour volume: 105273.67523350, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 45.77190, 24 hour vwap: 40.95523
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.50000, Best ask: 44.56634, Bid-ask spread: 0.06634, Last trade: 44.56634, 24 hour volume: 105176.47600550, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 45.77190, 24 hour vwap: 40.95719
Chaang-Noi: amphipod> Mar06 07:05:44 mtgox x221 1,000.0000 @ 4,319.05105821 JPY
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
gribble: BTCJPY ticker | Best bid: 4200.899, Best ask: 4292.351, Bid-ask spread: 91.45200, Last trade: 4371.772, 24 hour volume: 5026.74060167, 24 hour low: 3531.751, 24 hour high: 4371.772, 24 hour vwap: 4236.634
mod6: did i just see that right?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.60001, Best ask: 44.94191, Bid-ask spread: 0.34190, Last trade: 44.51434, 24 hour volume: 105828.92739695, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 45.98000, 24 hour vwap: 41.05239
gribble: There are currently 573.51808 bitcoins offered at or under 46.0 USD, worth 26378.2569228 USD in total. | Data vintage: 69.3444 seconds
Chaang-Noi: it looks to me like mt gox is bidding this shit up...
mod6: just only 573 to 46 USD
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.50000001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [-]
[\\\]: You know, I'm surprised people don't bring that up more
[\\\]: mtgox has a vested interest in having the price of bitcoin go up
[\\\]: since they charge half their fees in btc
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00667 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 54 @ 0.00666 = 0.3596 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 19 @ 0.0066 = 0.1254 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: went from 12 to 45, now the public is buying... i dont give a fuck if it is gox or not, but i bet it is partly them...
Chaang-Noi: you know the gox people are old timers who have a shit load of btc... lose some fiat, make massive gain in btc...
Chaang-Noi: i do that in ltc at time... pump and dump
mircea_popescu: the thing with btc is that it's useful worth 1 unit at a market cap < 1bn, and worth significantly more than 10 units at a market cap > 10bn
[\\\]: kakobrekla, what do you mean?
kakobrekla: [\\\] you can set it so fees are taken from fiat side only
[\\\]: yeah, but you still pay the same amount
[\\\]: they just take the equivalent amount in USD
[\\\]: it is still the same fee
kakobrekla: so it doesnt matter if btc goes up for them
[\\\]: taking a fee of .5% of a $30 btc vs a $5 btc
Chaang-Noi: if i have 1,000,000 btc and it costs me 1,000,000 fiat to move the price from $15 to $30 then i spend 1 million to get 15 million...
[\\\]: that isn't a yeah but
[\\\]: you're making my point
[\\\]: regardless of how you express it, they're getting more USD
[\\\]: they're still moving the same amount of btc, why should the fee go up? ;)
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar06 07:21:21 mtgox x62 414.2822 @ 45.90051627 USD
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar06 07:21:21 mtgox x66 532.4452 @ 4,387.21444939 JPY
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00568 = 0.0454 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.44733, Best ask: 45.68716, Bid-ask spread: 0.23983, Last trade: 45.44733, 24 hour volume: 106156.27636265, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.11371
gribble: 1 BTC = 45.68716 U.S. dollars = 34.8251848 Euros
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.67000, Best ask: 45.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.31000, Last trade: 45.98000, 24 hour volume: 106101.67272176, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.12159
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.67000, Best ask: 45.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.31000, Last trade: 45.98000, 24 hour volume: 106146.37381511, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.12535
Chaang-Noi: yeah i hear ya... girls dont like giving bjs when you look at charts...
Chaang-Noi: theymos has some tricky shit dealing with glbse and scammer tags
Chaang-Noi: he has to be careful or he will need to give him self a few lol
mircea_popescu: girls don't mind, that's what slavery was invented for.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 99 @ 0.0035 = 0.3465 BTC [-]
gribble: There are currently 11272.36 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 542707.482662 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Chaang-Noi: at this rate we will be at $50 this time tomorrow
Chaang-Noi: oh shit, just found 5000 ltc i forgot about
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.00100, Best ask: 46.41402, Bid-ask spread: 0.41302, Last trade: 46.00000, 24 hour volume: 107455.02852074, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.49000, 24 hour vwap: 41.24338
Namworld: So that's a $1000 you just found
Chaang-Noi: i knew where it was, but i forgot it had coin in it
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.005401 = 0.054 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0054 = 0.0162 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.00502 = 0.1255 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0053 = 0.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 92 @ 0.005 = 0.46 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: dice trades for .0035 on exchange pt is .0054? lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 84 @ 0.65 = 54.6 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar06 07:48:37 bitfloor 6.3606 @ 48.49 USD
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.43 = 2.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.425 = 0.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.42 = 2.1 BTC [-]
Namworld: S.DICE on the other hand is going down the drain
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.955 = 1.91 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: never thought it would last, shocked it did as well as it has
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.41 = 2.05 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.20199, Best ask: 46.83966, Bid-ask spread: 0.63767, Last trade: 46.90000, 24 hour volume: 108408.53715162, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 41.38489
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4 = 4 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: yeah... its smart to buy up all the calls, then dump 10 million on gox....
Chaang-Noi: get tones of shit, sell back 10 million btc, at the much higher price, and do it again
coingenuity: Chaang-Noi: i explained that it's the insurance company's choice to insure any parcel...
Chaang-Noi: man he never got his silver, you never gave it to him, end of stopry
Chaang-Noi: you need to post in the thread if he got the silver man...
coingenuity: he was given his silver, his country's goverment stole it, i was going to replace it until he wrote a script to annoy me
coingenuity: anyway, i can't talk with you, i'm eating dinner
Chaang-Noi: your going to get killed in that thread man, just man up and pay it back
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18460872 = 184.6087 BTC [+]
Namworld: Doesn't coinabul specify the user must research import laws for his country himself? If the silver/gold is seized at the customs, no coinabul's problem.
Chaang-Noi: customs clearly will claim there was no silver... (as they stole it) its not like shipping to Austriala is illegal
coingenuity: Namworld: aside from insuring, and paying premiums on said insurance, for all parcels who's owners request it, we cannot do anything to change the minds of insurance companies nor governments...
Chaang-Noi: you need to say on your website insured shipping does not imp[ly the shipping is insured and delivery is not guarranteed
gribble: There are currently 3915.0774 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 183856.80088 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds
coingenuity: Chaang-Noi: i'm going to ignore your instigation, insured shipping is insured
coingenuity: i have more important work to do than bicker about nothing with you
coingenuity: Chaang-Noi: come back to me when you've contributed anything more than trolling to the bitcoin community as a whole...
Chaang-Noi: oh slam, a scammer called me a troll, buuuurn :)
coingenuity: Chaang-Noi: i'm almost certain you've 1. ordered gold from me 2. had that gold delivered to you successfully
Chaang-Noi: i felt cheated i needed it right away,
Chaang-Noi: you did not steal from me, but id never use you again...
Chaang-Noi: however i need that gold to sell for fiat and you fucked me over by taking forever
Chaang-Noi: and i lost a lot of value while waiting
Chaang-Noi: dont have have me on ignore? im going afk anyway
Chaang-Noi: that small wall at 47 should slow us down a bit
gribble: There are currently 2982.5833 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 140147.42823 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18488932 = 184.8893 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 3728.5372 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 175132.256038 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0066 = 0.033 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18548653 = 185.4865 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.27 = 1.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18619661 = 186.1966 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.06200, Best ask: 46.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03800, Last trade: 46.10000, 24 hour volume: 109292.22019850, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 41.61645
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 47.44997453 / 50.14846327 (no shares, 13,996.17 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
gribble: Time since last block: 9 minutes and 32 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18991695 = 189.917 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.190908 = 190.908 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: other people will buy the coins and put it back in
ZedsterX: has $45 really come and gone today
ZedsterX: only 42 on BTC-e just hard to get USD there
ZedsterX: hard to get them there fast at least
dub: its retarded, pretty much random whether your order hits
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00548 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 191 @ 0.00548 = 1.0467 BTC [+]
dub: market buy around 43.9 buys at 44.50
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.63494 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.14403, Best ask: 46.47898, Bid-ask spread: 0.33495, Last trade: 46.14403, 24 hour volume: 105262.95331360, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.31133
leotreasure: must be a recent thing it was working not too long ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.65 = 32.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 25 @ 0.00999 = 0.2498 BTC [+]
Bowjob: guys I won the bet.. LTC will reach 20cents
Bowjob: I feel like I deserved a bit more coins
jurov: yep, none is working
jurov: like someone cooked their router again
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6498 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.4 = 6.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
Bowjob: I got out just in time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00073198 = 5.2703 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [-]
jurov: interesting... mpex offline but it does report trades
jurov: at least mpex.coinbr.com works now
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 84 @ 0.00549 = 0.4612 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
Bowjob: I'll be a bro and give some of my friends an opportunity to buy BTC
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00549 = 0.0824 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: #Megacard: I would love to create a #Bitcoin credit card! Who can help us make it happen? Email: twitter@kim.com
Bowjob: that ianbakewell is gonna get slaughtered
Bowjob: ian borrowed 600 BTC when they were 34 dollars each
Namworld: nah, I'll grab some S.DICE or stuff like that for my passthroughs while it's cheap.
assbot: Quest for vision is a great blessing.
assbot: Quest for vision is a great blessing.
fydel1: yeah..that's a good question
jurov: i don't know. at least the backend works
maximian: probably a DoS attack, happened a few weeks ago
Namworld: backend works... I guess the web interface is being updated
jurov: and it works fine now (but it was not for a while, too)
mjr_: whats up with mpex?
jurov: cuz we access alternate mpex ip
jurov: but that can change anytime
mjr_: this is just crazy right now
mjr_: i bought the 41 calls as a long shot
kakobrekla: apparently you shot accuratley on long distances
jurov: coinbr user support is becoming fun. got another email "i bought C37Ts, now i'm selling and nobody wants them, help!"
jurov: explained to him how to click Exercise link right on dashboard...
jurov: but looks like thay sold in meantime anyway
jurov: whale gobbled everything
jurov: looks like we need to create MPOE Emergency Relief fund
jurov: or MP can start selling extraordinary mpoe bonds
mjr_: troubled asset relief?
mjr_: why would he sell or exercise now? there is like 21 days left...
jurov: he did not explain.. seems he didn't know what he's doing
jurov: Oo bitstamp is at 48? time to sell a bit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.51 = 3.06 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: i asked that question a week or so ago
jurov: Rule 1. We do not know what is paypal
jurov: Rule 2. Even if we know, we never speak about it.
kakobrekla: shit, might add that to the bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: There are currently 5140.5779 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 240829.255427 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
gribble: Error: "bids-35" is not a valid command.
jurov: bitcoin-central at 38.5 , bitstamp at 47, lol
jurov: must do something about
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.42009, Best ask: 45.42019, Bid-ask spread: 0.00010, Last trade: 45.42021, 24 hour volume: 99525.39008012, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.60348
jurov: ooooh the btccentral price is in eur.. even moar intriguing
Bowjob: see you at single digits
gribble: Error: "bc,convert,eur" is not a valid command.
gribble: 1 BTC = 45.39100 U.S. dollars = 34.761066 Euros
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.00549 = 0.2196 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Alt link for mpex? Getting ddosed?
jurov: Bugpowder, mpex.coinbr.com
Bowjob: ive seen it coming, really
Bowjob: the dice is just worth as the month's volume
Bowjob: well, I got out of the dice just in time lolz
Bowjob: someone gave away over 300 BTC last night
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Bowjob: you were like.. dice is safe now, get back in
Bowjob: the overall profit doesnt really matter to a new shareholder
Bowjob: its that month that matters
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.38 = 2.66 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 375 @ 0.19683239 = 73.8121 BTC [+]
Bowjob: ian was right to short dice it seems
Bowjob: shorting is such a ballsy move it scares me
jurov: kakobrekla and now what should i think about that?
Bowjob: I was posting this link last night anyone got their bitcoins
jurov: judging from long-standing fee bugs i hear about, it may be as well true
jurov: or they fear to fix it cuz they have no unit tests
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00073247 = 1.4283 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11303 @ 0.00074548 = 8.4262 BTC [+]
gribble: There are currently 4711.5328 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 220954.276368 USD in total. | Data vintage: 115.7926 seconds
jurov: sigh. i have updated the coinbr engine to use mpex track code, all fine and dandy
kakobrekla: the problem is most of bitcoins users are idiots as well
jurov: but now the unit tests must be fixed. and that's much bigger task
jurov: and new ones added for the "track used/track not used" cases
jurov: dis wrong. bitcoin is always mean.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16243 @ 0.00073204 = 11.8905 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1144 @ 0.00073198 = 0.8374 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5063 @ 0.0007313 = 3.7026 BTC [-]
Bowjob: actually were in the take off phase
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.20000, Best ask: 46.48800, Bid-ask spread: 0.28800, Last trade: 46.20000, 24 hour volume: 99179.19073160, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.70440
assbot: Quest for vision is a great blessing.
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
assbot: Some are born to endless night.
jurov: i guess assbot fails to access the website
jurov: although it reports trades fine, dunno
assbot: Nope, some are just born to endless night.
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.23825, Best ask: 46.33559, Bid-ask spread: 0.09734, Last trade: 46.23824, 24 hour volume: 99397.65043641, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.72776
Bowjob: what do you know. i get richer just by fapping
jurov: url of webcam or didnt happen
jurov: unittests hacking brings nostalgia "Your order to BUY 1 O.BTCUSD.C110T @0.20000000BTC each has been received and will be processed."
jurov: going even deeper "Your order to BUY 2 O.BTCUSD.P040T @0.00014536BTC each has been received" now they don't exist lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8891 @ 0.0007313 = 6.502 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5356 @ 0.0007313 = 3.9168 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00414309 = 1.2429 BTC [+]
jurov: gesell yes, use mpex.coinbr.com
gesell: what happened to the vps that used to be on mpex?
gesell: thought bitvps was there
jurov: yup. went yest to timisoara and bought mpex, for a few lines of blow
TomServo: PsychoticBoy: Never hacked I think... he reported a DDOS outage a while back I believe.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.0007313 = 0.7233 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00072769 = 2.6925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 985 @ 0.00072612 = 0.7152 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00072378 = 5.5369 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00071218 = 6.4452 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00071077 = 1.1017 BTC [-]
jurov: gesell, you actually believe it? btw, i have picked up few nifty asic rigs en route in budapetst
gesell: btw, just posted this on redit but... pretty ascii graphs with: curl -s "
http://bitcoincharts.com/t/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxEUR&start=`date -v-1H +%s`" | gnuplot -e 'set datafile separator ","; set xdata time; set timefmt "%s"; unset key; set format x "%H%M"; set parametric; set y2tics; set tics nomirror out; set y2tics format "%.2f"; unset mxtics; set border 9; unset my2tics; unset ytics; set xtics scale 0; set term dumb; plot "-" using
jurov: bah... i'm owning btc now, u think i'll just send someone somethig?
gesell: jurov: sorry yeah i havent been in this room in a while so getting used to the troll factor again ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P730T] 1 @ 0.90910719 BTC
assbot: Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
BitHub: is there an official asicminer room here?
jurov: we have anything "official" in bitcoinland?
kakobrekla: this is officially official bitcoin chan
BitHub: hehe yeah this room is better
jurov: official with Slightly Smoky Dragon and Double Cherry Truck insignia
pigeons: i can't get the only service that has never been hacked to come up
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
maximian: the front end
http server is down, not the MPEX backend
ZedsterX: i told him to put yet on the end of his never been hacked sentence
Chaang-Noi: cuz testpaymesnt, oh i cant wait, muhahahah biiig money
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.381 = 2.667 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3801 = 3.801 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [-]
error4733: hello, maybe the question was asked 10.000time but MPEX down ? :/
ZedsterX: topic should be changed here maybe
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00070613 = 10.0977 BTC [-]
error4733: it'a clone where you scam my gpg order ?
ZedsterX: nah the front of the server is down
ZedsterX: MP spreads way too luv for that
error4733: haha thanks for this morning joke, need it
BitHub: think the cia kidnapped mircea again
jurov: then prolly the domain would be seized
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.46899999 = 0.938 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.469 = 2.345 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.46999999 = 0.94 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.47 = 4.7 BTC [+]
BitHub: i think i'm getting the same amount of jah mining divs than i would at asicminer shares at 0.65 hah
thestringpuller: lol mircea_popescu got on bitinstants case but mpex is down
BitHub: anyone else finding that?
smickles: thestringpuller: i owe you some monies :)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00070613 = 2.3302 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: smickles returns, does he return with news of a second born?
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.77107, Best ask: 46.78122, Bid-ask spread: 0.01015, Last trade: 46.77107, 24 hour volume: 94579.93372571, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 43.05662
Bugpowdrr: he took it down cause he don't wanna sell anymore calls.
jurov: Chaang-Noi yes and no
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00069034 = 3.1065 BTC [-]
jurov: but the backend is working ( and proxied by mpex.coinbr.com ).. don't know why they can't move the domain elsewhere
jurov: or make any statement
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.37000000 / 0.49368267 / 0.59000000 (622 shares, 307.07061895 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.58757632 / 0.68950000 (1682 shares, 988.30336796 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.6373535 / 0.76500000 (10868 shares, 6926.75789072 BTC)
maximian: thanks for your proxy service jurov :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.401 = 4.01 BTC [-]
smickles: < thestringpuller> smickles returns, does he return with news of a second born? shouldn't be until mid-may
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [-]
smickles: heh, i have excellent log-reading skills
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.94000, Best ask: 47.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 47.00000, 24 hour volume: 97426.47255291, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.00000, 24 hour vwap: 43.18923
assbot: I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
jurov: smickles, I take it as you reading 3 weeks of this chan logs?
assbot: You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
jurov: !ticker mpex s.dice
assbot: You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
jurov: assbot got some malarkey
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.01700, Best ask: 47.30807, Bid-ask spread: 0.29107, Last trade: 47.01700, 24 hour volume: 98301.12712212, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.22614
assbot: I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
error4733: 50$ today, i put some champagne in the fridge
unbalanced: Where I can read logs of this channel so I ask 8% fewer stupid questions?
Bowjob: heresy! off with your head!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00414309 = 4.1431 BTC [+]
jurov: unbalanced, they aren't public afaik
smickles: unbalanced: you might have to log it yourself
Bugpowdrr: there is going to be a major pullback
Bowjob: lemme guess. you bought puts?
Bowjob: there will be a major pullback..
jurov: ThickAsThieves: complete? not just some pastebin?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 100 @ 0.06498108 = 6.4981 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.50001, Best ask: 47.58770, Bid-ask spread: 0.08769, Last trade: 47.49990, 24 hour volume: 98269.41406670, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.58770, 24 hour vwap: 43.23820
Bowjob: amazon partnered up with bitinstant
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.37000000 / 0.4917805 / 0.59000000 (635 shares, 312.28061895 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.58614358 / 0.68950000 (1695 shares, 993.51336796 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.63707085 / 0.76500000 (10881 shares, 6931.96789072 BTC)
Chaang-Noi: not shocked, i got 13k out of them at 35$
Bowjob: it was bitinstant actually
Bowjob: .. and i kinda feel bad for dice owners
jurov: meh.. tomorrow it may change
maximian: don't worry about us - a bounce back is coming
blu3gr1ffon: just can I get them out before SEC finds a way to prosecute. :P
Bowjob: mhm.. it looks like an opportunity to arb s.dice at havelock
Bowjob: buy at 0.37, sell at 0,.46
jurov: then i'll hide evoorhees in my apt.. and won't be alone i guess
Bugpowdrr: The last bubble top was a $13 rise in one day
Bowjob: you should sell the btcs now if they are gonna crash
Bowjob: its very hard to predict the top
Bowjob: I tried to give away 1 BTC to a gaming website
m0mchil: howdy... what's up with MPEX right now, DDoS or what?
Bugpowdrr: we are now up over $10 in the last 24 hours.
Bugpowdrr: I'm trying to say that I'm am selling 25%
Bowjob: charities will accept more BTC.. there was a campaign last night about BTC
Bowjob: about $12000 was given away in BTC
Bowjob: to various charities, from $20-100 dollars ea
smickles: Bugpowdrr: so that was you buying puts at 31?
Bowjob: mpex seems down from here.
Bowjob: does ddos count as a hack?
smickles: and it's not down, all the proxies are working
kakobrekla: does a nuke count as a slap on the wrist
smickles: so it's really just the one url which is down
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.51677, Best ask: 47.58770, Bid-ask spread: 0.07093, Last trade: 47.58770, 24 hour volume: 98083.19810957, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.75000, 24 hour vwap: 43.26076
imsaguy: seriously, one more person asking if mpex is down
chmod755: mpex has been hacked. hackers are dumping soon
imsaguy: I swear its a bunch of 12 y/o lemmings in bitcoin
ZedsterX: someone change the subject onthe channel
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00414309 = 8.2862 BTC [+]
smickles: /topic mpex down, bitcoin to crash
BitHub: mircea has been kidnapped
imsaguy: this is #bitcoin-assets, not ##mpex
smickles: chmod755: i have an interested buyer, but they want the usd first
jcpham: imsaguy are you buying all these coins
imsaguy: pigeons: did you find the i in team?
Bugpowdrr: imsaguy: My wife's girlfriends are buying no
jcpham: yes it is hidden in ther A hole!
imsaguy: Bugpowdrr: sounds for a kinky night
gribble: 1 BTC = 47.88000 U.S. dollars = 36.7375125 Euros
gribble: There are currently 464.05826 bitcoins offered at or under 48.0 USD, worth 22255.6760062 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
gribble: There are currently 9879.8201 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 489143.829799 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds
Chaang-Noi: i kinda think we need a correction, then i read more news and im wow... so i dont know
Bowjob: yes this is the correction
Chaang-Noi: before i thought we might correct to 20, now im pretty sure we wont go much under 30 if we get tht far down... :/
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.00000, Best ask: 48.34801, Bid-ask spread: 0.34801, Last trade: 48.34801, 24 hour volume: 99201.77387837, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 48.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.35730
Bugpowdrr: I don't want to go over the FACTA limit :-P
ThickAsThieves: no correction needed yet if we're on our way to 150 or such
Bowjob: Mentlegen, we are the new wealty elite
Bowjob: We need to focus on the bigger picture. Hookers and blow are gonna be so cheap for us.. real estate, ect
Bowjob: How about we think of a way to help the world
ThickAsThieves: we can help the world by telling them to buy more coins
Bowjob: it be hilarious if a small country's GDP would be like 10 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00414309 = 1.6117 BTC [+]
blu3gr1ffon: .001BTC is apparently not enough off TXN fee anymore, is it?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 200 @ 0.005025 = 1.005 BTC [-]
Bowjob: how can btc gain global traction if the blocksize limit is so small
Bugpowdrr: but this is CLASSIC parabolic blow off top
unbalanced: EskimoBob: doesn't s.dice pay a lot to miners through fees?
Bowjob: sell 100% of your coins
Bugpowdrr: I'm putting my money where my mouth is here
Bugpowdrr: I will be VERY HAPPY if its $65 next week
Bugpowdrr: Puts prices are being set at 43.57 right now!
Bowjob: if I sleep.. ill wake up to $50
Bugpowdrr: calls make sense if you think it will stay here for more than 24 hours
gribble: 1 BTC = 48.49800 U.S. dollars = 37.2116934 Euros
unbalanced: EskimoBob: Ah so the fee rate won't adjust somehow and if someone wants to buy a coffee with BTC the fees will be bigger than the coffee?
unbalanced: Just trying to grok all this, my head is spinning.
imsaguy: ACtually, the way things are trigger, it costs more in fees to buy a coffee than it does to buy a house
imsaguy: small tx amounts require larger fees
imsaguy: your $5 coffee will cost more in fees than a $50k car
Bowjob: someone crash LTC please, I wanna buy in
Bugpowdrr: unless there is another frontend on it
jurov: Chaang-Noi: did LTC resolve the blocksize/fees problem intelligently? if not, stfu
Chaang-Noi: jurov they can do a significant more than btc yeah
unbalanced: Anyone have theories as to why this runup is so fast then? Is it driven by MPEX futures, or trader manipulation, or is this how the Fed kills BTC: it just buys them all?
jcpham: i'm willing to sell one bitcoin today for 50 bucks
jurov: plus, ltc is still at 0.6, thrashing the hdd like hell
Chaang-Noi: i think the coinlab stuff, the amazon bitpay stuff, anme cheap, mega.. everything....
pigeons: what is "the amazon bitpay stuff"?
unbalanced: doctor_pullfinge: hence someone's reference to 12yo's investing above?
Chaang-Noi: coinlabs making it so walls treat people can pour in 1 billion or whatever of other peoples money to "invest"
BitHub: how much is expected from ASICMINER per share this div?
pigeons: will people outside of us still have access to the coinlab usd market?
Chaang-Noi: pigeons i dont know.. but we need more than mt gox/coin lab anyway, let wall street have that, we can do our own...
pigeons: i lived there no one else uses bitcoin there
smickles: EskimoBob: it's a little less centrally controlled than usd tho
Chaang-Noi: eskimoob i heard your mugs are cool, can i see a photo?
imsaguy: a handful of people make the rules that the rest of the network blindly follows
smickles: yeah, clients have to approve a change too
imsaguy: most people run unmodified clients
smickles: i mean, i can't really oppose changes to the USD
jcpham: someone at the fortmill times is a nerd
smickles: but I can participate in a hard fork if things go sour
Chaang-Noi: that is pretty big ass news.. how did they only have it?
jcpham: specificalyy an estate accountant
Chaang-Noi: eskimobob link to photos of your mugs? still ahve more to sell?
jcpham: i have a 24k check i want to keep
jcpham: and not deposit in abank
jcpham: how do i keep it for myself
jcpham: and not pay any to the government
smickles: jcpham: sounds like you want a lawyer first
jcpham: the check is made out to my dead grandmother's estate
smickles: as an accountant in 'merica, i can't give legal advice
jcpham: you can't help me launder it?
jcpham: that was both rhetorical and a joke
imsaguy: jcpham: who's the executor?
smickles: jcpham: if you are trying to launder money, why not endorse the check to someone for bitcoins
Chaang-Noi: BitPay's integration with Amazon currently works with WordPress.com, the world's most popular web publishing software, and WooCommerce, a comprehensive eCommerce platform for WordPress.
smickles: send the coins through some mixers, and then buy wooden Austin,TX farmers market coins with the bitcoins
jcpham: channel full of criminals
Chaang-Noi: asicminer pay out already, i need sleep:)
unbalanced: EskimoBob: re: mpex has nothing to do with this, I didn't mean mpex's site issue today, I just meant does trading futures/options on mpex lead to more (less?) volatility in BTC?
imsaguy: asicminer doesn't pay until Thursday
imsaguy: Wednesday is 24 hours long
Chaang-Noi: he never said he was going to change it... derp
Ukto: there was a test payment earlier
imsaguy: not everyone is awake on your timezone
Ukto: its 9:42 in the us tho
Ukto: 14ish hours until its fully gone
Bugpowdrr: So were to set the bids for the crash?
imsaguy: and now the thread has 300 people all saying they got 1 satoshi/share
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: if friedcat wants to pay on thursdays thats cool, but he should tell us:)
imsaguy: and you're right, the last payment was 4 hours ago last week
imsaguy: but considering not all the test payments have confirmed yet
imsaguy: I doubt he'll send the full amount
Chaang-Noi: he cant wait, somepeople wont ever confirm
imsaguy: confirmed by the blockchain twit
imsaguy: not by some lemming on the forum
Chaang-Noi: he waited some time, he did not wait for 100% of people to confirm
smickles: < imsaguy> Wednesday is 24 hours long << or 28, depending on how you count timezones
imsaguy: I didn't say he waited for people to confirm
imsaguy: I said he waited for the blockchain to confirm
gribble: There are currently 420.09147 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 20573.7459579 USD in total. | Data vintage: 93.0439 seconds
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.90000, Best ask: 48.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 48.90000, 24 hour volume: 98725.47056383, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.00000, 24 hour vwap: 43.52904
gribble: There are currently 8385.6763 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 416077.619858 USD in total. | Data vintage: 71.0702 seconds
smickles: doctor_pullfinge: weren't you here for that discussion?
doctor_pullfinge: I was not - not looking for a book, just has mp acknowledged anything
smickles: it's either that mircea's sex dungeon prisoners finally revolted, or use mpex.coinbr.com while mpex.co is down
smickles: mpex.coinbr.com is one of many proxies to the mpex backend, and since all you send is encrypted, it doesn't matter that you are sending info thru a third party
Chaang-Noi: Most Online Today: 1541. Most Online Ever: 3809 we have a long way to go :)
doctor_pullfinge: so, mp is sleeping. I'm not looking to make a trade, just worried about another pirate40 situation.
blu3gr1ffon: you should be, now'd be a good time to disappear.
doctor_pullfinge: is coiner able to send trades through to the backend? I have a seat on the back end and STAT don't works
smickles: blu3gr1ffon: thing is, as long as the traders keep s.mpoe worth more than he would get by running with the money, he has a financial interest to stay
gribble: There are currently 6264.6484 bitcoins offered at or under 49.999 USD, worth 310249.908414 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.1208 seconds
BitHub: did anyone see his post recently about thinking of retirement?
smickles: doctor_pullfinge: my stats are working tru mpex.coinbr.com
doctor_pullfinge: smickles - thanks - I feel better. Back to worrying about why s.dice is tanking.
smickles: and what do you mean 'a seat on the backend', if you have a connection to the backend which isn't a proxy, why are you worried about the other proxies?
BitHub: people sick of s.dice?
doctor_pullfinge: I paid the 30 btc for a seat directly on mpex. coin.br is a passthrough, so may be cacheing the info.
Ukto: i bought my sdice at or below 0.0044
smickles: doctor_pullfinge: i think you are a little confused here
Ukto: so im not that worried about it yet
doctor_pullfinge: I think the div was bigger in terms of USD, but mainly I think people spend x% of their USD based paycheck on s.dice. So, BTC dividend amount goes down
smickles: coinbr is a broker (passthru, whatever) mpex.coinbr.com is a proxy to the backend system which is mpex
Ukto: besides, JAH is a better deal atm. daily divs at 10% or something, plus compounded earnings from reinvestment
BitHub: yeah the jah shares are crazy Ukto
smickles: you can send a STATJSON or whatever you want through that proxy
BitHub: seems to be better than ASICMINER atm
Ukto: i think by 30 days of jah its like a 15%+ monthly profit
BitHub: yeah he got asicminer shares
Ukto: well worth over the .3
ThickAsThieves: random off-topic idea, skype and facebook should show squiggly underlines on mispelled words, could teach the masses so easily
BitHub: that's why div so good
smickles: ThickAsThieves: that's more of an OS issue, isn't it?
smickles: ThickAsThieves: I mean, nearly all text input fields on my compy do spelling correction
Ukto: btw, 6,345 asicminer shares confirmed by fridcat on G.ASICMINER-PT now
jurov: doctor_pullfinge, since pgp is used,coinbr has no way to tamper with your orders nor replies
Ukto: thats just the confirmed
jurov: and as for caching, make sure to check signature date so it's aways different
Ukto: not including alot more pending in transit
Ukto: you dont play it for fun
Ukto: you play it for odds
doctor_pullfinge: I just went to coinbr and don't see any "last update" information. So I still think that could just be the last time that mpex was up.
error4733: so it's good for a gambler to pay there
blu3gr1ffon: I'm sending larger txn fees in the future.
BitHub: i might sell off some dice and buy up some jah instead
smickles: EskimoBob: how long of a history?
blu3gr1ffon: what's a good fee these days for sub 10 minute 6 confirmations?
jurov: doctor_pullfinge, since mpex didn't issue any statement, we don't have anything for an update
smickles: EskimoBob: i don't think anyone who is recording that info has mad it public
jurov: coinbr just runs the proxy alongside our broker interface
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.71000, Best ask: 48.71350, Bid-ask spread: 0.00350, Last trade: 48.71000, 24 hour volume: 98576.32628072, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.71889
error4733: in fact is not hacked, you can make order
smickles: what mpex looks like to me currently
jurov: doctor_pullfinge i don't know anything about mp... except he does have irc client opened, that's a good sign perhaps
doctor_pullfinge: but that's a pass-through page that might be cached from last night.
doctor_pullfinge: I agree this is not freak out time. I'm trying to understand what this mpex.coinbr.com thing really is.
smickles: doctor_pullfinge: not the thing that I screenshotted
jurov: doctor_pullfinge, scroll back to last trade by assbot, compare to the site
Ukto: Bugpowdrr: wait another 5 min, see if it goes through
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.58643, Best ask: 48.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11357, Last trade: 48.90000, 24 hour volume: 97948.57311533, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.75867
smickles: doctor_pullfinge: it is pretty much a replication of mpex.co
jurov: doctor_pullfinge it's a proxy that we sewt up after last ddos
smickles: and there are other proxies too
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.58643, Best ask: 48.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11357, Last trade: 48.70000, 24 hour volume: 97945.57336925, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.75887
smickles: and "proxy" does not equal "passthrough"
assbot: I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
gribble: A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 453945.1459 USD and would take the last price down to 43.3310 USD, resulting in an average price of 45.3945 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 106.9176 seconds
gribble: A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2998627.3527 USD and would take the last price down to 16.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 29.9863 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0098 seconds
gribble: A market order to sell 1000000 bitcoins right now would net 4312499.9219 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 4.3125 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 23.1310 seconds
gribble: 1 BTC = 48.71000 U.S. dollars = 37.3743574 Euros
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.45 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Ukto: cnn will drag in more bidders
smickles: why is this cyber currency trading at an all time high?
smickles: pleas tell me steve hargreaves
jurov: doing test buy order for 123 S.DICE...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 123 @ 0.0045 = 0.5535 BTC [+]
jurov: so, all is working except mpex.co website
error4733: smiclkles, you have to finish your taxreturn ?
smickles: jurov: but will doctor_pullfingr believe that assbot gets data from a reliable source?
jurov: smickles, doctor_pullfingr should pull fingers out of his ass and try it himself
doctor_pullfingr: doctor_pullfingr just needs a timestamp not a big deal. I can see the site, but assbot only shows HAVELOCK trades.
jurov: doctor_pullfingr so you did a mpex trade like i just did and assbot did not show it?
jurov: it shows most recent trade in title
smickles: 16:14 <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 123 @ 0.0045 = 0.5535 BTC [+]
smickles: which came shortly after "16:14 < jurov> doing test buy order for 123 S.DICE..."
doctor_pullfingr: sorry jurov - I see the assbot trade and the timestamp. I'll shut my mouth now and get to work. Fluorescent lighting awaits.
jcpham: "The U.S. dollar is an obvious Ponzi scheme," said Thomas, who thinks the U.S. government has too much debt to raise interest rates high enough to defend the dollar if there were ever a run on it. With Bitcoin, "you feel like you're in control of your money."
jcpham: last paragraph of that CNN article wins
smickles: jcpham: i was just about to quote that too
smickles: Bugpowdrr: at least they arn't running a CS server
Bugpowdrr: they are running a site that is trading $5MM in currency a day
deadweasel: srsly, get the servers together, have peak resources
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00070427 = 8.6273 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1326 @ 0.0007105 = 0.9421 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: "Because the number of transactions and overall value of coins in circulation is relatively low, the currency is quite volatile -- it went from under $1 to over $28, then back to $7 in 2011 alone."
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.35100, Best ask: 48.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.64900, Last trade: 47.35100, 24 hour volume: 97534.97841476, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.87966
deadweasel: dafuq 45 minutes only at 5 confirmations, with .005 fee
smickles: deadweasel: the fee will only affect when it gets conf 1
Bugpowdrr: when those confirmations go thru, price is gonna drop
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 189 @ 0.0045 = 0.8505 BTC [+]
Bugpowdrr: why did I sell at 48 insteady of 47.99? why
imsaguy: ThickAsThieves: the example is a bad analogy, sure
imsaguy: give it time, there will be another tanking
imsaguy: how much of the tx volume today is the same coins being sent over and over?
jurov: "Mt. Gox found its operations hindered by its lack of proximity to the tech sector." lol now that's an excuse
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00072389 = 1.8821 BTC [+]
imsaguy: mtgox was a hackjob originally trading magic cards
imsaguy: they always leave that part out
deadweasel: Magix; The Gatherings, online exchange
gribble: 1 BTC = 47.75000 U.S. dollars = 36.6377657 Euros
jurov: i should ask mp about his "proximity to the tech sector"
imsaguy: I'm sure mp is fairly proximal to the tech 'sector' right now ;)
mircea_popescu: if you're having trouble loading trilema, please flush your dns.
mircea_popescu: and otherwise, mpex,co is being ddosed by someone too stupid to know that doesn't work.
smickles: damn, i thought your sexdungeon revolted
smickles: mod6: hiya, sorry for being away
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: load up a free instance of amazon?
imsaguy: Guest60737: you know about /ns release, right?
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: tabloids say girl ;)
smickles: mircea_popescu: heh, well, it's a boy, and he is expected to come mid may
Guest60737: imsaguy: ya. working on those things now with ns & grib
gribble: anduck was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 20 hours, 24 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Anduck> uhh
imsaguy: oh, anduck said I was supposed to hold his coins
imsaguy: he said I could have them forever
gribble: Time since last block: 7 minutes and 46 seconds
imsaguy: their test tx still hasn't confirmed
Chaang-Noi: yeah, why would they need to wait though?
imsaguy: just goes to show that sending a bunch of microdust without paying a respectible fee is silly
imsaguy: estimated btc transacted: .00023055
smickles: ;;later tell anduck pm or email me when you get a chance
imsaguy: asicminer full payment just hit
mod6: (08:48) < smickles> mircea_popescu: heh, well, it's a boy, and he is expected to come mid may << Nice! It's getting closer. :]
Chaang-Noi: im going to try and guess and see their mining rate...
imsaguy: that doesn't make the dividend per share go up
smickles: mod6: indeed, and the first one is starting to walk around
mod6: smickles: thats awesome man. :)
jcpham: The myopic are extrapolating the price trend of the past three months, which they deem is normal, and in so doing they exacerbate it to the upside, thus attracting even greater fools. The inflection point will come when the continuity of bullish thought is broken, which could be anywhere between $49/bc to $69/bc. One thing is for sure, the amount of suckers left who are willing to jump on the moving and ever accelerating train is drawing thin,
jcpham: and so are their pockets.
imsaguy: jcpham: where'd you copy and paste that from?
imsaguy: so now they're up to .06/share
imsaguy: once it hits .1, divs will halve
jurov: mircea_popescu dunno where would the oix be if calls were available throughout
mircea_popescu: jurov thing is a certain strike can't push it past a certain level
Chaang-Noi: okay so they ahve about 15% of the weekly coins...
Chaang-Noi: hmmm... about expected, i guess tehy are not solomining
Chaang-Noi: imsaguy less tha halve, 20% or so will aslo be collected for new hardware
Chaang-Noi: so we will get like 40% of what they mine...
Chaang-Noi: imsaguy how did you get .06 per share?
Chaang-Noi: buying more asics means more coins... and a company worth more.. cant just look at dividends
imsaguy: the first dividend was like .03x
Chaang-Noi: PsycoticBoy if we take the 40% of todays dividends and x 52 we get .416 pretty damn solid
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.61000, Best ask: 47.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 47.77175, 24 hour volume: 99687.93083192, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.99952
smickles: look, there is a corelated rise of "mainstream" with the recent rise in "bitcoin"
Chaang-Noi: i see this stock being worth .5 easy, and much much more if bfl fail
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.21046328 = 210.4633 BTC [+]
mod6: lol "bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin"
jurov: it's about to fall any minute purportedly
mircea_popescu: Mar 06 07:58:51 <mircea_popescu> o hey, it occurs to me, this is the right time to get hacked right ?
jurov: oh and how is your proximity to the tech sector today, mircea?
mod6: ah! didn't know that
mircea_popescu: mod6 was a ddos back in jan, set up the entire proxy structure then. that's when jurov made his, i think smickles has one too
jcpham: apparently i pasted a one liner in -otc and stopped someone from dropping 50k from a BoA from their cell phone on bitcoin
mircea_popescu: im just grepping this log for "hacked" atm, it's loads of fun
jcpham: "Rising asset prices create euphoria, and euphoria significantly drops the IQ of the participants."
mircea_popescu: liek Mar 06 16:13:53 <pigeons> i can't get the only service that has never been hacked to come up
Chilca: mircea_popescu: maybe is something wrong in my notebook
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: is mpex down?
mircea_popescu: Chilca there's a pretty dumb ddos going on the main domain. but you can use any of the proxies jsut fine
ThickAsThieves: "The U.S. dollar is an obvious Ponzi scheme," said Thomas, who thinks the U.S. government has too much debt to raise interest rates high enough to defend the dollar if there were ever a run on it. With Bitcoin, "you feel like you're in control of your money."
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.21064341 = 210.6434 BTC [+]
Chilca: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 60] Operation timed out>
smickles: I just knew the sec would get to mpex sooner or later
assbot: imma gonna start banning
jurov: oh and i almost convinced a dude that coinbr bought mpex
mircea_popescu: Chilca : use something like mpex.coinbr.com to connect
jurov: edit the url in source
imsaguy: assbot: did you know that mpex is down?
jurov: you know i was yest in timisoara and bough some fine asics in budapest en route, that announcement raised some eyebrows, too
jurov: can't remember zactly
mod6: jurov must be tall to fuck a giraffe, or he likes to fuck on a ladder. ;)
mircea_popescu: guy got totally plastered, hitched it with the zoo inventory.
mircea_popescu: mod6 when you're hung like a snake gotta do what you gotta do.
mircea_popescu: neck has to be long enough or else you dip your tip in acid.
mod6: ah! i'll have to keep that in mind.
jurov: yea, without mircea's expert advice, that would've ended badly
mircea_popescu: my host guy is like "you know we nullrooted some stuff"
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 10 @ 0.00062096 = 0.0062 BTC
mod6: heh, i nullroute stuff all the time
mod6: abuse? to the blackhole you go!
jurov: like "nono no nullroutes, i have important businss in nigeria"
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.35500, Best ask: 47.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14500, Last trade: 47.50000, 24 hour volume: 101716.35730182, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.12712
gribble: Time since last block: 12 minutes and 53 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00072389 = 14.9845 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.21125709 = 211.2571 BTC [+]
gribble: Error: "when" is not a valid command.
jurov: !when does bfl deliver
jurov: right on the money
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.65 = 19.5 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: <assbot> [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.65 = 19.5 BTC [-] nice :)
Rick_: When can i use mpex.co?
smickles: Rick_: as soon as you can type mpex.coinbr.com
mod6: (09:20) < mircea_popescu> mod6 how often do customers go "mmkay" << haha, 0. the one guy I do a actual website for doesn't give a shit since he cuts down trees for a living lol
mod6: im like, "russian hackers are fucking with the site so i tossed their packets in the bitbucket..." "huh? whats that?" ".... don't worry it's all good."
Rick_: but i am using coinbr now
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: all tghe proxy shit was set-up back in jan when somebody tried to ddos mpex
mircea_popescu: smickles so what've you been up to ? did you get ddosed or something ?
assbot: Stupid fucking white man.
maximian: looks like the worst of the s.dice selloff is over
deadweasel: think the price will drop anymore today?
jurov: mircea_popescu but it did work till 2 hours ago
assbot: yea im stupid like dat.
assbot: watch out there. i might be dumb but i have muscle. does that erause you?
gribble: Error: "facepalm" is not a valid command.
assbot: arouse, mirce, arouse. was ment for jurov.
keith_hanson: have they mentioned any reasons for all the lag?
mircea_popescu: <unbalanced> Anyone have theories as to why this runup is so fast then? Is it driven by MPEX futures, or trader manipulation, or is this how the Fed kills BTC: it just buys them all? << historically mpex futures tend to quench rallies (and probably drops too) rather than amplify them
kakobrekla: beatles yesterdays goes through my mind when you do ;;goxlag
mircea_popescu: the reason is that bitcoin which'd normally hit the exchanges pushing the price gets sterilized on derivative trades on mpex
gribble: There are currently 3655.519 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 177792.647437 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00072389 = 3.4747 BTC [+]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.23000, Best ask: 47.40500, Bid-ask spread: 0.17500, Last trade: 47.40500, 24 hour volume: 106149.33438063, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.27059
mircea_popescu: Regulation can stand in the way of innovation in the interest of protecting consumers. What do entrepreneurs do?"
mircea_popescu: @karenmpd They move. Consumers don't get a say, that's what the definition of consumer implies : "stfu, swallow the menu, say ty".
unbalanced: mircea_popescu, thanks for the reply above. Could someone rich in cash & BTC, holding BTC futures/options at say a $50 strike could have an incentive to buy up BTC to that level to not lose on the option trade?
unbalanced: Or am I a) paranoid? b) ill-informed? c) both? Probably c)
jurov: unbalanced, there were tries , but mostly not successful afaik
Namworld: oh, I missed mircea's reply. What's up with MPEx?
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0073 = 0.073 BTC [+]
jurov: not a frontend, just proxy
[\\\]: whatever happened to solidcoin?
jurov: [\\\]: you're digging it out of grave
[\\\]: I went to the website and the latest news is from January
mircea_popescu: unbalanced in theory this is possible. however this theory tends to blow up in practice. it's no different from any attempt to corner a market, and those have historically ended up poorly.
mircea_popescu: more importantly, the mpoe bot book is limited. you can't get much more than 20k or so notional exposure per strike
mircea_popescu: with a lot of finesse you could construct synthetic positions of maybe 100k, but not 1mn and over.
mircea_popescu: moreover because all trade settles in btc on mpex that defacto sterilizes some currency too
mircea_popescu: in short : i've put a lot of thinking into creating macrostability here, i obviously may have overlooked holes/been stupid/etc, but it won't be trivial in any case.
mod6: (10:04) < mircea_popescu> i think it was about time twitter got a dose of mp. << yes!
unbalanced: mircea_popescu, jurov: thx for the replies
mod6: jcpham: oh man, <3 Del Taco
unbalanced: glad to know all is well in mpex-land... time to get back to work
jcpham: I manufacture my own reality
gribble: Error: "whowas" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "was" is not a valid command.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00469999 = 1.88 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so did s.dice get massacred because people thought mpex is gone ?
jcpham: dude this guys mind is primed for bitcoin
jcpham: 7:15 t-shirt says "unkuck the world"
kakobrekla: also planting that shit in the middle of the LA
jcpham: the man has got him down kakobrekla
jurov: mircea_popescu, no that happened yesterday. today dice it didn't move much
mod6: this guy is awesome
mod6: well, na. fuck the man, plant a garden. mine some bitcoins, etc.
jcpham: fuck tha man, plant a garden, mine bitcoins sounds like a tshirt i need
dub: friedcat did it again
dub: sent 0.000000001/share then a div
mod6: haha ya! "PLANT SOME SHIT!"
mod6: america needs more people like this guy who are devoted to action
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 40 @ 0.00469999 = 0.188 BTC [+]
dub: im going aquaponics when I finally get a house
dub: grow FISH and PLANTS
mod6: jcpham: the UNFUCK THE WORLD t-shirt was pretty great too
mod6: i'd prolly wear it everyday if I had one
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4789366.42662 based on data since last change | 4948929.82503 based on data for last three days
dub: is the txn confirmed?
ThickAsThieves: basically it does the transactions but displays incorrectly
dub: the asicminer div txn isnt
dub: so its normal to show up like that
ThickAsThieves: referring to someone suspecting there is an issue with desltop clienbt
mod6: EB is like, "O if you move S.DICE I'll buy some!!! JUST KIDDING! LOL I'VE ALREADY BOUGHT HIGH AND SOLD LOW!"
dub: surpise, guy is ubertarded
mod6: haha he trolls hard
jcpham: aww man dank got scammer tagged
jcpham: but he had a soul guarantee
gribble: Current Blocks: 224570 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1221 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 31 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4779207.20236 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.41719
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.00000, Best ask: 48.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 48.05000, 24 hour volume: 104401.10769022, 24 hour low: 39.50000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.61632
mod6: eat your heart out bernakazi
mod6: MPOE-PR stepped on your nuts huh?
mod6: i dunno, why all the hard trolls & h8tred?
ZedsterX: does bitpay being on amazon make us legit now?
deadweasel: I'm pretty sure you are MP, being your own troll
mod6: dutifully moved right along to the next helping of predigested yet certifiedly safe circlejerk product. << exactly.
gribble: 1 BTC = 47.93000 U.S. dollars = 36.7758766 Euros
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00072389 = 4.6691 BTC [+]
Namworld: ah, nvm. I guess I was consistently refreshing right when options were not up.
Namworld: I refreshed twice and no options were showing up from the market bot.
Namworld: your reasoning seems broken... time to get some S.DICE
mircea_popescu: deadweasel the valuation by last trade algo is prolly dubious
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00300001 / 0.00452788 / 0.0052 (39220 shares, 177.58 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00577697 / 0.0063799 (549867 shares, 3,176.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00588503 / 0.007395 (6670790 shares, 39,257.82 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08954763 / 47.56142347 / 49.63791534 (no shares, 17,752.74 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 3 @ 0.0639995 = 0.192 BTC [-]
deadweasel: yeah, I need to stop looking at bitfunder. I just want to watch things happen.
deadweasel: i like observing this thing. this, bitcoin, thing.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: how often is the oix updated?
mod6: has any one else been eating popcorn and watching Krugman try to battle the guys on ZH?
mod6: not sure if its really him... but it's entertaining either way
mircea_popescu: hard to tell which is the larger idiot, the zh borg or krugman
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.35000, Best ask: 47.45780, Bid-ask spread: 0.10780, Last trade: 47.35000, 24 hour volume: 105673.56321148, 24 hour low: 39.51020, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.82315
dub: new video of avalon trying to ship units
mod6: yeah, some of those guys on ZH are somewhat entertaining
mod6: there seems to be a real lack of brains when it comes to bitcoin on there though
deadweasel: I have seen no surplus in brains anywhere in bitcoin, except a few here and there.
deadweasel: bitcoin has been my financial baptism by fire. lucky I made money while learning
Lyspooner: this is not the normal channel welcome message
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner the scams there got moved to bitcoin-assets.com
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4405 = 4.405 BTC [-]
Lyspooner: normally it's a list of all the sites that house bitcoin assets
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Massage4BTC.com is now operational and lets anyone offer local massage services for BTC."
mircea_popescu: "herpderp i learned sort-of webcoding over the summer so now i start a business where other people do the work. it's a platform."
chmod755: mircea_popescu, wait...isn't that what mpex does?
chmod755: S.DICE makes the money - you get rich lol
mircea_popescu: what've they traded since august, say 200k btc or so ? i've made 400 btc off that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4205 = 1.2615 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.335 = 3.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.335 = 1.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.33317 = 3.3317 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.42 = 2.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.41 = 2.87 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.41 = 2.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 0.65 = 16.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
deadweasel: I was just wondering where I could find a massage for BTC?
deadweasel: is there like, an internet site for that?
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33317 = 0.6663 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 640 @ 0.22052312 = 141.1348 BTC [+]
assbot: Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08954763 / 47.63946252 / 49.7064472 (no shares, 17,893.87 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
jurov: deadweasel is dead
jurov: mpex.co is back online so all should work
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.00000, Best ask: 46.59790, Bid-ask spread: 0.59790, Last trade: 46.00000, 24 hour volume: 109849.30848531, 24 hour low: 39.79000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.00791
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
jurov: deadweasel,no,gribble is nanotube's. assbot has borrowed intelligence from kakobrekla.
jurov: maybe muscles,too, dunno
deadweasel: jurov: ok, thx. they are both nice bots. even S&M assbot, but I do that in PMs now.
jurov: consider yourself lucky, i was rejected by assbot :/
deadweasel: tankage indeed, people must be market selling
deadweasel: but there are some hungry sponges out there too
jurov: i think today's bank wires and whatever went into bitcoins, tomorrow it may repeat
jurov: when fresh fiat arrives
jurov: bitcoin will eat it
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.27057, Best ask: 45.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.71943, Last trade: 45.99000, 24 hour volume: 111972.55000310, 24 hour low: 39.79001, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.02130
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.65 = 32.5 BTC [-]
dub: yeah newsflash gox sux
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0046 = 1.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.4 = 2.4 BTC [-]
Ukto: as soon as confirms are done, DT will be paying on BF
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 62 @ 0.00549 = 0.3404 BTC [+]
Ukto: btw, G.ASICMER-PT now holders 1,020,273 confirmed ASICMINER shares
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.71051, Best ask: 45.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28949, Last trade: 45.00000, 24 hour volume: 114058.31082349, 24 hour low: 39.85750, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.04732
Ukto: the last was 0.02354460
Ukto: and it was for all earnings up to that point
Ukto: that means the last week picked up a lot of earnings
Ukto: next week should easily surpass it
DeaDTerra1: HAHAH one million shares was a bit strong xD
Ukto: and copied the wrong thing :P
jcpham: i sold some coins for $50 today
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.20000, Best ask: 44.71051, Bid-ask spread: 0.51051, Last trade: 45.00000, 24 hour volume: 114660.97979107, 24 hour low: 39.85750, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.05104
jcpham: how is that even acceptable or possible
jcpham: mircea_popescu: 5 coins...
jcpham: i sold 5 coins during the height of the day for shits and giggles
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.20000, Best ask: 44.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 44.50000, 24 hour volume: 114844.81528356, 24 hour low: 39.85750, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.05435
swhitt: i wish mtgoxlive would work better.
mircea_popescu: i can't believe forum idiots actually propose btctalk as a comparison for anything.
Bugpowder: anyone know EXACTLY how wash sale rules effect a long-term cap gain? As in, if I buy a stock for $5, sell it 8 months later for $10, rebuy for $9 the next day then sell again for $50 8 months after that.
Bugpowder: Is the $50 sale considered long-term or short term
Bugpowder: I know the $10 sale is short term, despite the wash sale repurchase.
mircea_popescu: jcpham ok, some idiot who came up with the brilliant idea that because the cost of making websites is small, the internet will never exist
mircea_popescu: because myspace profiles will compete each other into irrelevance
jurov: According to the Communist Manifesto, there were three major reasons why capitalism would come to a halt.
mircea_popescu: one of them being that youthful cocks with milkstrings still atached will end up publishing on wanna-be "respectable" venues a la seeking alpha as if they were people.
jurov: lol i never heard about this school.. prolly too many "higher education" schools around
jurov: in one 450-thousand city
mircea_popescu: every halfwit with a "liberal arts" degree in nothing specifically from Nowhere University is going to, on the mid term, publish a finite nonzero number of papers
jurov: From a historical standpoint, major economic bubbles are a rare phenomenon. Unlike business cycles, which occur quite frequently and with great regularity, there have not been many bubbles throughout history.
jurov: first two sentences from the body text
mircea_popescu: i can't even write about this shit, it'd be doing it favours ;/
BitHub: so...how much did asicminer share pay per share?
dub: they sent it anyway, hadn't confirmed last I looked
Lyspooner: to what end? he doesn't care about bitcoin so much as he just wants people who cry "bubble!" to be held to certain standards
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4749889.19275 based on data since last change | 4913870.80684 based on data for last three days
jurov: i daresay marketmaking for difficulty is less risky than one for price
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner so i made a spurious comment on the interwebs.
jurov: but the asics are still big unknowns
mircea_popescu: jurov it's gotten to that point hasn't it. funny how things topple in btc.
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08954763 / 47.63946252 / 49.7064472 (no shares, 17,893.87 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
jcpham: Your money is stored securely in the cloud (with 90% offline in secure storage), so if you lose your phone your money is still safe.
mircea_popescu: jcpham remember the polish exchange that mtgox acquired in 2011 ?
thestringpuller: does that mean option marketers are manipulating the price?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller possibly that they draw from the same reservoir of future as the price does.
gribble: A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 428772.0536 USD and would take the last price down to 40.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 42.8772 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 634 @ 0.00073 = 0.4628 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it is kinda funny, shrem gets owned, site is offline for three days, customers miss rally, popescu is ddosed nothing happens.
mircea_popescu: i imagine it must be bruising egos but other than that... heh. who cares.
dub: I was expecting a much different picture
BitHub: peeps are working on it
BitHub: just a buy and sell service
BitHub: well not even sell, just buy
jurov: no it's romanian. we don't use children.
AndroUser512: He says it means wallet in vietnamese or sumth
BitHub: north korean or something
mircea_popescu: jurov only because couldn't figure out how to make any :D