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burnside: sucks, I know, but that's the option I got.
ThickAsThieves: you could get rid of that complicated tier scheme
ThickAsThieves: and promo them as pnly 1% cit from divs, nor service fees
burnside: in a week when asicminer is doing 12TH and they're 1 BTC/ea the 3 weeks remaining on the option are going to look pretty nice.
mircea_popescu: they're doing 12th in a week ?
ZedsterX: now if i only have 4 shares I still fall the 10000 share catergory right?
burnside: that was a prediction, I think I heard that they're doing 7.2TH today
burnside: ZedsterX, definitely
ZedsterX: sweet
burnside: it's how many are in the passthru total
ZedsterX: cool
ZedsterX: once again i was miss reading...geez its hard to be so slow sometimes
Lyspooner: http://www.finalsatoshi.com/
burnside: ThickAsThieves, I hear ya, but contracts are for when things go bad as much as they are for when things go good.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.56001, Best ask: 41.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 41.65000, 24 hour volume: 94505.95802205, 24 hour low: 36.15200, 24 hour high: 41.79000, 24 hour vwap: 39.61246
mircea_popescu: what, only 41 ?!
mircea_popescu: i wish to speak to the manager.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bugpowder BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 41.56001 - the oix fuckin' predicted, man!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 20 @ 0.63494 = 12.6988 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2504 @ 0.00485 = 12.1444 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: http://falkvinge.net/2013/03/06/the-target-value-for-bitcoin-is-not-some-50-or-100-it-is-100000-to-1000000/
Chaang-Noi: 100,000 here we come
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: while that's true for later on,
mircea_popescu: for now i'd be worried
Chaang-Noi: he says starting around 2019
mircea_popescu: like that i can see it
Chaang-Noi: like when it will start to go mainstream
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu should drop a sell bomb
TomServo: really, just 6 years?
Chaang-Noi: yeah that is kinda what i was thinking too, but 100,000 each is a bit high
thestringpuller: pop the bubble
thestringpuller: pop it
mircea_popescu: https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/309115529589829632
mircea_popescu: this is kinda worrisome.
Chaang-Noi: fbi got him?
mircea_popescu: TomServo 6 years you know ? look what happened in 2.
mircea_popescu: interwebs move fast.
mircea_popescu: i still believe my old 1 month - 1 year thing.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you didn't buy enough under 20 cause it was too expensive last month, did you.
Chaang-Noi: bitinstant still down and out with peoples money?
TomServo: I get 6 years would be an eternity for bitcoin, but that still seems...aggressive.
mod6: im suprised that's his only reponse to the trilema blog
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi they got fucked but it's not their fault and their #1 priority is security except not rly.
gwillen: Chaang-Noi: huh, did he just publish that?
gwillen: we've only been at $41.50 for like an hour
mircea_popescu: mod6 it's easier.
mod6: they seem extra scammy
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99999999 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i dunno, they don't seem scammy to me, but certainly veering into the "we're 18 hear us roar" sorta attitude.
mod6: yeah, they're old than that though...and they ought to start caring about security
mod6: before they have gaping anus'
mod6: *older
mircea_popescu: i think the perspective shift from "we're trying and so nobody should criticise us" to "w'ere doing" is really difficult for most kids
mircea_popescu: and extra difficult for all americans.
mod6: well, in my 13 years of software dev in this country, it has /always/ been: Dollars first, security when we can get to it.
mircea_popescu: kinda hard to secure platforms that weren't build around security from the very beginning.
mod6: absolutly /never/ do they build shit with any security model in mind.
mircea_popescu: yea...welll... the trillions in yearly online fraud have to come from somewhere.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: no i just like seeing self inflicted crashes so rich people can profiteer
mod6: its constantly bolted on the side.
thestringpuller: smickles has all my btc :(
mircea_popescu: Confirmed total: 3,735 BTC
mircea_popescu: dude i totally like this bitbet. wouldn't it be the laugh of all time if i end up retiring over my bitbet stock
mod6: :]
dub: stupid people
thestringpuller: what bet?
dub: I try to give them my money but nooo, their property is a unique snowflake that is clearly worth more than people are willing to pay
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller site total.
mircea_popescu: dub stop buying girlfriends.
mircea_popescu: in other news, bfl 210:50 against april 1st delivery.
mod6: HEH
dub: ouch
Chaang-Noi: bitinstant was down, people could not get their money/btc maybe people know now but when i went to bed 8 hours ago i had no idea why
Chaang-Noi: mp how did they get fucked?
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi basically the story is,
BitHub: apirl 1st bfl comes out saying it they were joking all along
mircea_popescu: someone got their dns host through social engineering
mircea_popescu: they saw the foreign email, removed it and went to bed
mircea_popescu: then the next morning got phished
mircea_popescu: then lost 1k btc off one of the exchanges
thestringpuller: mod6 :P
Chaang-Noi: oh lol
mircea_popescu: then "the community should learn a lesson"
mircea_popescu: they make no mention of what actual measures they took for the future, and don't seem to have learned anything at all.
mircea_popescu: so i wrote a piece explaining why and wherefore
mircea_popescu: which shrem just went on the record saying he doesn't comprehend.
mircea_popescu: so i'm thinking... best stick to smpake and d&t's services.
Chaang-Noi: well i like veer and think bitinstant is needed for btc, but that charlie guy... lol
mircea_popescu: i don't really know either two of them, tbh. never used the bitinstant thing
Ukto: erik and charlie are both very nice
Ukto: charlie has been very busy personally lately
Ukto: and erik has been out and about traveling
Chaang-Noi: that charlie guy honestly i think might be mildly retarded. he said he was scared to take money form the fbi in his thread and i was like why? are doing something illegal? he responce was the "fedral bra inspectors" i was like wtf??
mircea_popescu: Ukto http://trilema.com/2013/the-events-of-failday/ << it kinda explains what my issue is with the entire thing.
Chaang-Noi: atleast they only lost 1000 btc, could ahve been much much higher
error4733: welcome to 42$
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi there was recently a rash of small arms manufacturers refusing to deal with their rogue government there
mircea_popescu: maybe this is of the same sort.
dub: erik is clearly retarded, doesn't bode well if both of them are
Ukto: fbi doing something illegal? happens. prosocutors offering compromise to get you to do illegal acts on their behalf? happens. kimdotcom? happened.
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1262 @ 0.00608 = 7.673 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.00000, Best ask: 42.05750, Bid-ask spread: 0.05750, Last trade: 42.00000, 24 hour volume: 97498.99357980, 24 hour low: 36.47000, 24 hour high: 42.50689, 24 hour vwap: 39.76206
Chaang-Noi: mp where?
mircea_popescu: error4733 that's more like it. are you the manager ?
Chaang-Noi: Ukto that is what i said, is using bitinstant an illegal act, and he would not answer me yes or no...
Chaang-Noi: Ukto he went on some childish tanget about bras to avoid the topic
mod6: weak
Chaang-Noi: we are well into 42... i wake up and pop 41 and pop 42.. damn
error4733: welcome to 42$
Chaang-Noi: i told him i cant tell people to use bitinstant any more if he cant tell me that he does not think using it is not illegal...
Ukto: $42.68 is current high
error4733: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.00000, Best ask: 42.47121, Bid-ask spread: 0.47121, Last trade: 42.47121, 24 hour volume: 97587.14426085, 24 hour low: 36.50000, 24 hour high: 42.68943, 24 hour vwap: 39.76494
Chaang-Noi: if it was not for all the strong bids id say this is bubble:/ but it does not look like bubble:/
Chaang-Noi: i think the sellers who were going to sell sold at 28-32 expecting to get them cheaper...
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi Feb 23 17:44:29 <mircea_popescu> http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/23/gaining-momentum-now-42-gun-companies-have-stopped-selling-to-law-enforcement-in-anti-2nd-amendment-states/
Chaang-Noi: america and guns :)
Guest11426: Sold 7% @ $40.40
Guest11426: 3 hours ago
mircea_popescu: hi guest
Guest11426: LOL
Chaang-Noi: i sold about 5% at 35ish...
Bugpowderr: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.05850, Best ask: 42.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24150, Last trade: 42.05850, 24 hour volume: 97857.41109838, 24 hour low: 36.56000, 24 hour high: 42.69000, 24 hour vwap: 39.77385
mircea_popescu: i've not sold
ThickAssLaptop: sold 0%
Bugpowderr: Selling a little makes me have courage
mircea_popescu: selling is for girls
Bugpowderr: for the long hold
Bugpowderr: yes
Bugpowderr: it actually is for girls
Chaang-Noi: selling a little makes my family have food and nice things...
Bugpowderr: wife is happy
mircea_popescu: so then great :D
Bugpowderr: now let my coins be...
mircea_popescu: haha
Bugpowderr: Now S.DICE needs to bounce
Bugpowderr: this is redic
mircea_popescu: jcpham more than a house, less than a car ?
Bugpowderr: I should deposit and buy that block at .0047
jcpham: i traded afe wbitcoinf or 800$ in amazon the other day
Chaang-Noi: mp that is lol but just a stunt, the cops will get arms
jcpham: wth
mircea_popescu: "Swarm Economy"... i originally read "Smarm Economy
jcpham: anyways Ilaunder my money through my family
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi yeah, asciilifeform was making the same point, marketing gimmick.
jcpham: buy them the things they need
Chaang-Noi: gets in the press, make a point
jcpham: mircea_popescu i noticed that reference btw
jcpham: good one
dub: s.duece is never bouncing
mircea_popescu: :p
jcpham: i only had about 300 BTC stolen from me
jcpham: 1600btc if i count the interest
dub: lol
mircea_popescu: jcpham i'm the agent of "never forget"
jcpham: so no big deal
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1262 @ 0.00569 = 7.1808 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 1600 btc wouldn't have bought a car back in sept would it have ?
jcpham: but this time last year i mined a few hundred bucks a day
jcpham: and gave it to strangers for shits and giggles
mircea_popescu: i guess just about yeah.
jcpham: my how we change
mircea_popescu: jcpham i'm still in that phase, just, the rate supports my extravagance.
Bugpowderr: $43
error4733: 43$
mircea_popescu: no fucking way ?!
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.99998, Best ask: 43.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00002, Last trade: 42.99998, 24 hour volume: 98119.15011464, 24 hour low: 36.69989, 24 hour high: 43.00000, 24 hour vwap: 39.80119
jcpham: it might have bought me a yugo
error4733: haha
error4733: WTF
mircea_popescu: ok mr manager, i withdraw my complaint.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13497 @ 0.00073462 = 9.9152 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34806 @ 0.00075 = 26.1045 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 908 @ 0.00608 = 5.5206 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: 50 is happening this week.
jcpham: i regret all the silver bullion i've bought
jcpham: facepalm
mircea_popescu: jcpham i never bouight any! ha!
jcpham: good for you
error4733: i regret not invented bitcoin
jcpham: i've brought in about 100 ounces
jcpham: that i payed way to much for at this juncture
mircea_popescu: my problem was, so buy 100 ounces. da fuck do i do with it now ?
mircea_popescu: more shit to stumble over.
mircea_popescu: i think many people love bitcoin PRECISELY because it's so ethereal.
dub: so all these librariantarians hoard metal for the econopocalypse right?
jcpham: i really hope this price finds long term support
dub: because when everyone is starving they are goign to care about silver and gold
Ukto: [20:39] <amphipod> Mar06 02:40:52 mtgox 0.4000 @ 43.00 USD
jcpham: i have some metal on hand in case i need to trade one day
asciilifeform: speaking of physical investments with use value (unlike metals) ...
dub: protip: hoard food and ammo, nobody is goign to want your shiney metal
error4733: god job prepper !
jcpham: i like to think i have enough shiny stuff to purchase something i might need
asciilifeform: you know what has been doing almost as well as BTC? Ammo.
jcpham: but what i might need i do not know
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 24 @ 0.22 = 5.28 BTC [+]
jcpham: i also have several thousand rounds of ammo
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 10 @ 0.24103982 = 2.4104 BTC [+]
jcpham: just in case
jcpham: i also have plans to lock down my little island
jcpham: should shit hit the fan
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 5 @ 0.20618917 = 1.0309 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23521087 = 235.2109 BTC [+]
dub: i don't understand how metal is supposed to have value when fiat doesnt
jcpham: i fell you there
jcpham: the more i think about it the more i tend to agree
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 43
jcpham: my thoughts on metal have changed
gribble: There are currently 112.41585 bitcoins offered at or under 43.0 USD, worth 4833.88037854 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21048426 = 210.4843 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: that wont hold lol
ThickAssLaptop: lol
dub: sure you can make ammo out of metal but its probably cheaper ot hoard lead?
ThickAssLaptop: ;;asks 50
gribble: There are currently 14803.645 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 693447.9213 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.9849 seconds
mircea_popescu: <jcpham> i really hope this price finds long term support << it just might. the reason is that bitcoin with large marketcap is more useful than bitcoin with low mkt cap.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ammo is almost pure metal :D
asciilifeform: AU/AG have value if the collapse is less-than-global, and there are speculators who might trade you food/etc from abroad in exchange for some shiny metal.
Ukto: ;;goxlag
gribble: 78.10124 seconds
Ukto: ouch
mircea_popescu: <gribble> There are currently 112.41585 bitcoins offered at or under 43.0 USD, << epic.
dub: asciilifeform: you gonna sail to another country to trade with them?
dub: asciilifeform: do you know how to make a sailboat?
asciilifeform: no, they do the traveling. See "shuttles" in the collapsing USSR period.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.18844965 = 188.4497 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ok, the quantity of options i've sold is staggering.
asciilifeform: when a nation collapses, people from nearby (and not so nearby) places come to vacuum up the valuables.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> when a nation collapses, people from nearby (and not so nearby) places come to vacuum up the valuables. << word on that.
asciilifeform: sometimes via trade in basic necessities, sometimes with brute force
mircea_popescu: on the collapse of bulgaria in the 90s i went there with a truck full of cans
jcpham: mircea_popescu a lot of these numbers and amths are going to be staggering from now on
mircea_popescu: came back with truck full of joolry and shit.
mircea_popescu: jcpham i guess you're right.
jcpham: if this 50 ish range finds support
dub: mircea_popescu: what? were they hoarding the jools in their ass?
jcpham: the math gets crazier
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: dub they had it real bad at one point. so bad in fact
error4733: some1 can sell 20K Sdice ?
mircea_popescu: the accepted bus fare was 1 egg
mircea_popescu: in like, sofia.
error4733: just for crush the market to 0.003
jcpham: an egg as currency makes sense if perople are hungry though
jcpham: if i was starving i'd gladly accept an egg
mircea_popescu: yeah, provided it doesn't stay currency for too long.
jcpham: hahha
mircea_popescu: a three week old egg in the summer is more of a weapon than a food item
jcpham: yeah idefinitely infuse rotten egs in the supply
mircea_popescu: then call yourself bernanke.
dub: unless you're in china
Bugpowderr: the big sale on S.DICE just got pulled
dub: and also have a horse
jcpham: buy ketchup
jcpham: that what bernanke tells me
dub: jcpham: amm and 'turkey
dub: ammo*
jcpham: or is that warren buffet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100000 @ 0.00075 = 75 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 10 @ 0.21068324 = 2.1068 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: of course speculators in necessities might as well have bull's eyes painted on them (both for idiot idealists and for marauders)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.18863313 = 188.6331 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23542766 = 235.4277 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 990 @ 0.21068324 = 208.5764 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 10 @ 0.23622767 = 2.3623 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o boy.
mircea_popescu: this is one of those.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how was your Bulgarian bus defended?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not at liberty to discuss.
asciilifeform: didn't think so
mircea_popescu: but for the record, there wasn't much violence at the time.
mircea_popescu: certainly less than what counts as a "quiet day" in washington dc or la.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the collapse of the serbian govt during the allied bombing didn't engender much violence at all.
mircea_popescu: direct experience shows that without a government people are pretty much doing the exact same things.
dub: just some casual genocide
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the Serbs took care of their diversity problem prior to the bombing. In fact, that was the official excuse for the latter...
mircea_popescu: myeah.
jcpham: 'murica: ruining your culture with economics and technology since 1944
jcpham: mostly i blame the japanese and perl harbor for the sad state of world affairs
mircea_popescu: why bnot go the extra mile and
mircea_popescu: blame godzilla.
jcpham: *pearl
mircea_popescu: ahahaha PERL HARBOR! totally.
jcpham: i've never seen godzilla irl so...
mircea_popescu: fuck it. perl ruined the world.
mircea_popescu: we can't has good twang because perl.
mod6: lol
asciilifeform: let's go the whole hog and blame... Cromwell.
Bugpowderr: $43.50
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have a piece about how lincoln is the original cause america sucks.
mircea_popescu: why cromwell ?
jcpham: British colonialism is really to blame
jcpham: or the romans if we want to really point fingers
mircea_popescu: colonialism is the solution, not the problem.
mircea_popescu: english misunderstanding of french socialism is the problem.
asciilifeform: Cromwell pulled the first modern idiot revolution.
mircea_popescu: why not alaric, king of the goths ?
mircea_popescu: why not the kingdom of bulgaria, to come full circle.
jcpham: that was efore my time
jcpham: i've only been around for a few hundred years
asciilifeform: Alaric didn't specifically target the concept of nobility.
mircea_popescu: orly ?!
jcpham: beer.
error4733: 44
mircea_popescu: o no fucking way
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.65 = 13 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: twitter sez "discosync.co just won $25k on stage at @Launch."
mircea_popescu: i'm like.. chuckle. 25k ? 25k whats ?
mircea_popescu: bitcoins ?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23679642 = 236.7964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.18982587 = 189.8259 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21195868 = 211.9587 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.90000, Best ask: 44.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 100112.20743136, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 44.00000, 24 hour vwap: 39.94269
ThickAssLaptop: "and though may never have to, it's good to have options"
ThickAssLaptop: i
mod6: !ticker m "^OIX"
assbot: These beans is shit.
mod6: lol
mircea_popescu: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 43.71874246 / 47.83958615 (no shares, 8,160.59 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mircea_popescu: hm can that be right ?!
mircea_popescu: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 43.71874246 / 47.83958615 (no shares, 8,160.59 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mod6: thx!
mod6: I guess it could be right, have to do the calculation, but someone bought a bunch of puts @ 75
mod6: 14`375 actually
error4733: A LOT !
mircea_popescu: i think those were short
mod6: ah
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19079917 = 190.7992 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23791328 = 237.9133 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21299953 = 212.9995 BTC [+]
error4733: 45
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar06 03:10:42 mtgox x88 1,000.0000 @ 44.93371459 USD
Chaang-Noi: the bloody fuck
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 10 @ 0.17096796 = 1.7097 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: where did 43 and 44 go?
error4733: 10 min each
Chaang-Noi: jesus, i go take a shit and they are gone...
mod6: 43's are gone, and the even's wern't created this month
mircea_popescu: this is sorta like mining
mircea_popescu: wow the last few ticks... totally ponzi looking
mod6: lots of buy and holders
mod6: ;;asks 50
Chaang-Noi: amphipod> Mar06 03:03:55 mtgox x138 1,395.9533 @ 43.97145535 USD
gribble: There are currently 11448.341 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 548166.438908 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds
Chaang-Noi: people are buying 1000 plus coins at a time at this price...
Chaang-Noi: wtf?
mircea_popescu: data vintage eh ?
jcpham: lag
Chaang-Noi: ;;goxlag
gribble: 456.476647 seconds
mircea_popescu: pretty cool way of sayin' it.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.06075, Best ask: 44.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23925, Last trade: 44.30000, 24 hour volume: 101787.86062457, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.04730
dub: neat
Chaang-Noi: and this is with people trying to buy via bitinstant and being left out of the game...
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.01000, Best ask: 44.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 44.13135, 24 hour volume: 101769.80421578, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.09091
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 45
gribble: There are currently 274.49811 bitcoins offered at or under 45.0 USD, worth 12352.4148497 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
dub: dollar spread?
jcpham: 3 minute trade excution reported in #bitcoin
Chaang-Noi: yeah
Chaang-Noi: ;;goxlag
gribble: 356.027482 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23876878 = 238.7688 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19154283 = 191.5428 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21379583 = 213.7958 BTC [+]
keith_hanson: Hm. So... I took a look at the site, but it doesn't really talk about what this channel is for. Is it just general trading talk?
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C350T] 20 @ 0.29732419 = 5.9465 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C370T] 60 @ 0.26660605 = 15.9964 BTC [+]
keith_hanson: Sorry if the question is a newbtastical one heh
dub: its for rational discussion
mircea_popescu: keith_hanson try bitcoin-assets.com ?
mircea_popescu: but in general, it's for bitcoin securities related talk + porn.
jcpham: porn eh
dub: by containing rational discussion it is set apart from any other bitcoin forum
keith_hanson: mircea_popescu: haha, nice. I gave the website a shot, but... you have to admit, it's pretty light on any sort of information :P
mircea_popescu: yeah kakobrekla is a lover not a writer.
keith_hanson: dub: Well, so far so good then :P
mircea_popescu: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 44.86994706 / 48.55677484 (no shares, 9,470.06 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
Chaang-Noi: 39$ btc on btc-e
mircea_popescu: risk discount ?
ThickAssLaptop: sry guys, i hit the Buy $1m button by accident
mircea_popescu: dub why do you disparage reddit
ThickAssLaptop: my bad
mircea_popescu: ThickAssLaptop did it do anything ?
ThickAssLaptop: made price hit 45
dub: mircea_popescu: I don't pay much attention
mircea_popescu: fol > lol ftr.
ThickAssLaptop: looks like coinlabs ticker is not lagging
Chaang-Noi: the spread at btc-e is about $2 most of the time, but they get cash in via bitinstant, and that is fail
ThickAssLaptop: farting out loud?
Chaang-Noi: only way to get cash now is sell ltc for cash, lol
mircea_popescu: falling over
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi soo is ltc goingdown ?
keith_hanson: bitinstant was working for me a bit ago?
dub: are you folling at my expense?
Chaang-Noi: mo a but now yes, but its sill up 250% in 3 days
Chaang-Noi: fuck i cant type... mp yes, it is going down a bit now, but still well up
Chaang-Noi: 18.5 cents to 16 cents cuz cheap ass btc
mircea_popescu: dub it happens to me when ppl push 1mn buttons
Chaang-Noi: 39.5 still
mircea_popescu: still, it was 14 yest.
ThickAssLaptop: actually when i press it just tells me how many btc i wanna buy, 18889
Chaang-Noi: ltc was 7 cents on friday
ThickAssLaptop: and then they want my pph#
Chaang-Noi: i hold about 200k so im happy
ThickAssLaptop: i'm not even single
mircea_popescu: pph = Postpartum hemorrhage ?
ThickAssLaptop: youve got my number
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23924296 = 239.243 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21423593 = 214.2359 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19195264 = 191.9526 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: back to 43.. atleast i get to see it trade there :)
keith_hanson: I've never understood how people arbitrage across exchanges... doesn't the transfer of bitcoins from one account to the other take hours?
mircea_popescu: http://www.examiner.com/article/wash-state-bill-allows-police-to-search-students-without-parental-consent
mircea_popescu: that place srsly.
ThickAssLaptop: not hours
mircea_popescu: keith_hanson more like days.
mircea_popescu: also the fees.
mircea_popescu: so count two of us, i've never understood it either.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
ThickAssLaptop: unless you are transferring from BTCT
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.33624, Best ask: 43.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.65376, Last trade: 43.99000, 24 hour volume: 102601.01478656, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.14144
keith_hanson: BTCT?
ThickAssLaptop: sry its sorta a joke
ThickAssLaptop: btct.co
ThickAssLaptop: is an exchange
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi the concern is that volume is still low
mircea_popescu: we've not seen it peak.
ThickAssLaptop: and they do manual withdrawals over like 5btc or so
keith_hanson: o.O
dub: I keep reading BCST instead of BTCT
dub: momentary WATing ensues
Chaang-Noi: yeah mo, im happy with anything over 25 really...
Chaang-Noi: mp i cant type for shit today...
ThickAssLaptop: i wanna buy in, but... shrug
error4733: 33 to 45$ in 6 days ???
dub: im waiting for $2 again
ThickAssLaptop: ;;asks 55
gribble: There are currently 16666.852 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 807037.068585 USD in total. | Data vintage: 32.2206 seconds
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 12 minutes and 17 seconds
mircea_popescu: meanwhile... wtf. i thought it was 12th this week ?
mircea_popescu: where are the th!
ThickAssLaptop: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4749417.28355 based on data since last change | 4789887.21932 based on data for last three days
ThickAssLaptop: supposedly they added a few TH at ozcoin
Chaang-Noi: asicminer is still kicking bfls ass:)
mircea_popescu: you know i suspect they've not been able to keep hash within 10% for six hour straight since the beginning of the month.
mircea_popescu: either their chips keep burning or software sucks or lots of overactive cats or wtf.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi i have a dead fish in the fridge that's kicking bfl's ass.
ThickAssLaptop: lots of shaking things up to mask hashing for themselves
mircea_popescu: ThickAssLaptop wait wut ? it's asicminer's business model to mine for themsleves.
Chaang-Noi: i hope bfl fails just as hard
ThickAssLaptop: you know what i mean tho
Chaang-Noi: hope only 5% of bfls chips work:)
ThickAssLaptop: backroom hashig
ThickAssLaptop: n
mircea_popescu: hm
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar06 03:42:56 btce 1.1179 @ 39.53 USD
mircea_popescu: they wouldn't do THAT now would they ?
error4733: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 42.50000, Best ask: 43.99000, Bid-ask spread: 1.49000, Last trade: 42.50000, 24 hour volume: 103543.75360681, 24 hour low: 36.71000, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.17722
ThickAssLaptop: i mean WHY would they to THAT?
error4733: 1.5$ spread lulz
Chaang-Noi: mp they own over half the company, i dont think they will cheat much...
mircea_popescu: error4733 looks like fiat supply problems
ThickAssLaptop: no way to know anyway
Chaang-Noi: he has like 60% he is going to be one rich motherfucker
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi if it ever gets to s,mpoe sort of market cap then yes.
ThickAssLaptop: maybe he wants to be two rich motherfuckers
Chaang-Noi: assuming they get 10% of the coins in one year his 60% share is about 79k btc
Chaang-Noi: 3.5 million us dollars
Chaang-Noi: just 1 year, i doubt he will need to cheat
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.955 = 1.91 BTC [-]
ThickAssLaptop: greed doesnt requir eneed
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.1921324 = 192.1324 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.2144312 = 214.4312 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23945589 = 239.4559 BTC [+]
keith_hanson: Sorry if I keep asking basic questions, but I'm taking you up on the intelligent discussion :P I get asked a lot where the value is coming from, and the only real answer I have is the "black market"/SR. Is that the general opinion or am I misinformed?
mircea_popescu: you are misinformed.
mircea_popescu: ;;google what are bitcoin market drivers
gribble: What are the Bitcoin market drivers ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/2012/what-are-the-bitcoin-market-drivers/>; George Clooney roils the Bitcoin market | FT Alphaville: <http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2011/06/21/600441/george-clooney-roils-the-bitcoin-market/>; Bitcoin Exchange Scam – Bitcoins Are Now Worthless | NERDr.com: <http://nerdr.com (1 more message)
keith_hanson: Nice, thanks mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: “It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States.”
mircea_popescu: the us attorney general delivers.
mircea_popescu: afaik it wasn't possible, under the constitution.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.529 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.528 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: maybe we're reading different copies.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.5278 = 1.5834 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5275 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.526 = 2.63 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5252 = 1.0504 BTC [-]
ThickAssLaptop: thats regarding drones?
mircea_popescu: well, it's regarding weaseling
mircea_popescu: but was brought about by drone discussion.
ThickAssLaptop: yes, we would like the convenience of attacking you with robots, let's keep that option open
ThickAssLaptop: we also want to wiretap so we can listen to your reaction lol
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.004551 = 0.4551 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00444446 = 0.4444 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00444444 = 4.4444 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7000 @ 0.0044444 = 31.1108 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 13031 @ 0.0044444 = 57.915 BTC [-]
ThickAssLaptop: bargain prices
dub: flushing the s.deuce
mircea_popescu: o hey
ThickAssLaptop: it's the ghost of the 1st tranche
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.21475103 = 214.751 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.23980148 = 239.8015 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19242937 = 192.4294 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: you suppose people are selling anything they can to get options funds ?
ThickAssLaptop: doesnt add up
mircea_popescu: yea indeed.
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00568 = 0.568 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19340518 = 193.4052 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.2157941 = 215.7941 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.24091935 = 240.9194 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 46.44009073 / 49.47150622 (no shares, 12,058.61 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mircea_popescu: fun fact of the day : mpoe option book notional exposure passes 3mn usd.
mircea_popescu: this is more than the combined total of all venture capital taken in by all bitcoin ventures iirc.
ThickAssLaptop: but coinlab
mircea_popescu: they got like 500k neh ?
ThickAssLaptop: thats it?
mircea_popescu: afaik.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, just throwing that out there, see if anyone has better data.
ThickAssLaptop: how do get a deal with gox holding tht little
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 350 @ 0.00073 = 0.2555 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: they maybe had really good collectible cards ?
Chaang-Noi: mp ltc back over 28 cents, crazy
mircea_popescu: rising tide raises all boats
mircea_popescu: or so ppl hope maybe
Chaang-Noi: yeah i dont know
Chaang-Noi: i thought it was way undervalued but this was one hell of a pop
mircea_popescu: 4x
ThickAssLaptop: not 28
ThickAssLaptop: 18
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5252 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: http://falkvinge.net/2013/03/06/the-target-value-for-bitcoin-is-not-some-50-or-100-it-is-100000-to-1000000/#comment-111758
mircea_popescu: lol poor falkvinge
Chaang-Noi: i posted that here an hour ago:)
mircea_popescu: i know. and i commented
mircea_popescu: and then passed it along
mircea_popescu: and now he's being stomped like "gtfo, old news" etc.
Chaang-Noi: im using it to troll /g/ on 4chan they think bitcoin is a scam
mircea_popescu: lol something bawful is in a fret too
mircea_popescu: kinda funny being internet's cool kids, by 185 degrees of magnitude
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1000 @ 0.2159899 = 215.9899 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 1000 @ 0.24113267 = 241.1327 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 1000 @ 0.19358548 = 193.5855 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "the buyings shall continue until morale improves"
dub: lol something bawful
mircea_popescu: in other news, time for http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136254317934.jpg
Chaang-Noi: You don't have permission to access /dtng/c/src/136254317934.jpg on this server.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 15 @ 0.5251 = 7.8765 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32052146 if anyone wants to troll...
Chaang-Noi: . /g/ has been calling bitcoin a scam for years now... they missed the boat
mircea_popescu: "When is coinbase going to start selling bitcoins again? They've been "over their limit" for the past couple days."
mircea_popescu: heh.
Chaang-Noi: yeah.. its like the meme with fry holding the cash saying shut up and take my money...
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 43.03099, Best ask: 43.37291, Bid-ask spread: 0.34192, Last trade: 42.99000, 24 hour volume: 104489.74859354, 24 hour low: 36.91110, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.28010
ThickAssLaptop: ;;asks 69
gribble: There are currently 34857.932 bitcoins offered at or under 69.0 USD, worth 1979397.98148 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.1042 seconds
mircea_popescu: so two button pushes
ThickAssLaptop: 69 is top
mircea_popescu: ThickAssLaptop 69 is bottom for thick ass.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 592 @ 0.21606942 = 127.9131 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 785 @ 0.19365695 = 152.0207 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C390T] 355 @ 0.24122141 = 85.6336 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: and we're sold out.
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 19 minutes and 11 seconds
mircea_popescu: holy hell.
ThickAssLaptop: waiting forever for my deposit
mircea_popescu: ppl are wanting to buy options, i'm like... well i guess you might have sent it two hours ago but if it ain't confirmed it ain't confirmed.
mircea_popescu: the value of keeping your liquidity in the right places i guess.
ThickAssLaptop: indeed
mircea_popescu: this is officially the most exciting time of bitcoin i've ever lived.
Chaang-Noi: went to troll /g/ /g/ wants to buy... fuuuck what just happened....
dub: /g/ == ?
Chaang-Noi: ltc for the win, that is the fastness
Chaang-Noi: . /g/ on 4chan, said btc was a scam for years.. now they want to buy
Chaang-Noi: https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32052146
dub: yes, what is /g/
dub: no fucking way I am hitting 4chan from work
mircea_popescu: twink pron ?
mircea_popescu: g/ - Technology
dub: I was dude the other day with dog paw tattoo with TWINK under it, hope he never goes to teh states
mircea_popescu: why not ?
Chaang-Noi: yeah dont go to 4chan at work,... even the calm and mostly safe /g/
mircea_popescu: so eu stocks at 4 year high mark, dow is busting records
dub: he probbly doesnt know knwat twink means in teh states
mircea_popescu: btc goes up 50% in A DAY
dub: (its a brand name here)
mircea_popescu: clearly our idiotarian policymaker friends are doing things right.
Chaang-Noi: i get a truck, im happy
mircea_popescu: us inflation will be triple digit in 2013.
keith_hanson: being a web developer, I want to take mtgox and overhaul their UI. Their new mobile site is atrocious.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00075 = 2.7 BTC [+]
dub: just make a new exchange, gox is going to self destruct in a week anyway
mircea_popescu: replace week with a few months
dub: I thought migration to coinlol happens on the 12th
ThickAssLaptop: nite
keith_hanson: mircea_popescu: uh, seriously? that's... concerning.
mircea_popescu: keith_hanson it is.
keith_hanson: mircea_popescu: What do you guys use then?
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 106697.45574715, 24 hour low: 36.93101, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.37604
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 45
gribble: There are currently 1236.3618 bitcoins offered at or under 45.0 USD, worth 55413.0152492 USD in total. | Data vintage: 54.7067 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 50
gribble: There are currently 12874.465 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 614113.730099 USD in total. | Data vintage: 64.7913 seconds
mircea_popescu: keith_hanson i don't use anything, not really buying.
mircea_popescu: when i do buy i use the otc.
keith_hanson: oh, wow. Didn't realize that existed :D
keith_hanson: I have learned more in an hour here than I have in months on reddit, bitcointalk, or any other web sources :P much appreciated
mircea_popescu: you're welcome
mircea_popescu: the otc system revolves around the wot, ask gribble about that.
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 250 @ 0.12633113 = 31.5828 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 6 @ 0.12633113 = 0.758 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 44.00000, 24 hour volume: 107173.30759404, 24 hour low: 37.01715, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.42137
Namworld: We're going skyhigh
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 75 @ 0.15734141 = 11.8006 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19207 @ 0.00075 = 14.4053 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00450001 = 9 BTC [+]
Namworld: When people buy lots of options, usually a good time to buy S.MPOE
maximian: s.dice not so sky high
Namworld: Hmm, S.DICE going down down down
maximian: no buyers
Namworld: indeed, no buyers
maximian: there's a big fat ask there at 0.0047
maximian: that would have gone in a flash last week I think
Namworld: yeah
Namworld: that was before price skyrocketed
Namworld: Now everyone wants BTC in their hands
maximian: makes sense
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00450001 = 4.5 BTC [+]
dub: DT going on 'holiday' to italy
Chaang-Noi: crawling back up to 45...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0044444 = 0.4444 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00300001 = 0.3 BTC [-]
dub: praps catchign up with his best buddy alberto
pizzaman1337: S.DICE trading at 0.00300001? gosh...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00450001 = 0.45 BTC [+]
dub: what is surprising about that?
pizzaman1337: huge drop
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 863500 @ 0.00075 = 647.625 BTC [+]
Namworld: Only 100 traded that low
maximian: MPOE is in demand, on the other hand
Namworld: Of course, lots of options being traded
maximian: even though its divs performance is consistently worse than s.dice's
maximian: like way worse
maximian: it must be a confidence thing. perhaps people have little faith that s.dice will be around long term.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 175000 @ 0.00075 = 131.25 BTC [+]
Namworld: I guess if you consider MPEx's track record and long term, if people expect Bitcoins to become mainstream and MPEx to retain it's #1 position to trade assets...
dub: maximian: or that there won't be any more surprise share splits
Chaang-Noi: dice at .003? id buy at that price some...
Namworld: Well S.MPOE could dramatically improve with a majority of assets trading moving to MPEx
assbot: [MPEX] [S.BBET] 4000 @ 0.0015 = 6 BTC [-]
dub: Namworld: why would htat affect s.mpe?
Chaang-Noi: asic miner is the next big hot trader i bet
maximian: actually, MP has regularly dumped mpoe shares as well, but he did it differently: he placed large asks well above the market price
maximian: so nobody cared
mircea_popescu: maximian actually more an attempt to keep it from bubbling up than anything.
maximian: evoorhees, on the other hand, sold way below market price for some crazy unfathomable reason, which was a big WTF
maximian: evoorhees could have done the same
mircea_popescu: i think the fact that mpoe/mpex can't have a lossy month for shareholders may be a factor.
dub: yes but he's an idiot
maximian: but oh well. it shook a lot of people's confidence.
Namworld: dub: fees?
mircea_popescu: if people are thinking "s.dice has consistantly been over EV" it may be a consideration.
mircea_popescu: tho tbh... it doesn't seem to account for the disparity.
dub: Namworld: I didn't know fees contributed to s.mpoe, its not just the options?
mircea_popescu: dub http://trilema.com/mpoe-february-2013-statement
mircea_popescu: Revenue from sales fee : 187.80380028 BTC (Total trade : 93`901.90014227 BTC)
mircea_popescu: Revenue from new accounts : 70 BTC
maximian: I think people know that mope is here to stay, but there's a lot of uncertainty around s.dice
maximian: and unfortunately, evoorhees is distracted with conferences and his other hobbies
mircea_popescu: maximian ironically enough s.mpoe shares were bought as low as 2k satoshi.
Namworld: no, fees, options, incorrect deposits, etc
dub: so they do
Namworld: It's all of MPEx's income, really
pigeons: lol incorrect deposits
mircea_popescu: ftr an incorrect deposit has yet to make it to shareholders. there was a grand total of like, 1 so far.
Namworld: good to know that people with enough BTC to trade on MPEx can manage not to screw up deposits.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, s.dice has so far paid ~50k satoshi per share in dividends to s.mpoe's ~2k
mircea_popescu: yet their marketcaps are like 2:1 in favour of s.mpoe
mircea_popescu: on a strictly dividend basis of accounting it's a huge gap.
maximian: it's a stark difference
mircea_popescu: so there must be other factors
mircea_popescu: course if you think about it, a corp that issues 10% divs a year is not automatically better than one that issues 3%
mircea_popescu: irl i mean
mircea_popescu: actually i'd be much surprised if the average retail investor could even tell you what dividend his portofolio paid
Namworld: Coca-Cola has low yearly yield.
maximian: not if everyone expects it to flame out early
Namworld: I think. Still great stock. Stable, very old company. Popular as ever.
mircea_popescu: maximian i guess maybe that's it, in spite of early explosive success people expect it to flame
mircea_popescu: or maybe not in spite.
Namworld: There's a few multinationals like that with low yield and high demand. Safety and stability are good to consider.
maximian: yep, high uncertainty over its future: can it maintain its market share, will evoorhees get arrested, etc
mircea_popescu: course there's another thing : on the strength of the book so far, s.mpoe could walk home with 20-30k btc.
mircea_popescu: motnh has barely started.
mircea_popescu: on the strength of the action so far, s.dice is ahead what, 2k yet ?
maximian: yeah, amazing
maximian: s.dice not doing so well so far this month, but that's to be expected now and then
mircea_popescu: so maybe that's what's driving prices really
maximian: nobody had a problem back in november when s.dice paid zero
mircea_popescu: the immediate outlook. "shot at 20-30k with no downside" vs "not so great, maybe 2k, maybe negative"
mircea_popescu: thus one goes 65 to 75 the other 62 to 45
mircea_popescu: maximian yeah but investor composition changed a lot, lots of pt holders,
mircea_popescu: lots of small holders
maximian: yep, I agree
mircea_popescu: those are always volatile
maximian: true
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00300001 / 0.0046852 / 0.00579999 (39585 shares, 185.46 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.0058052 / 0.0063799 (554773 shares, 3,220.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00589794 / 0.007395 (6726620 shares, 39,673.22 BTC)
mircea_popescu: day's volume is 200 btc. that's not much really.
maximian: evoorhees has to get cracking and start promoting this thing again!
mircea_popescu: he was saying something about irl gambling deal.
mircea_popescu: course he's been saying that for a while
maximian: It wasn't clear that he was talking about s.dice, but it would be nice if he's hinting at an acquisition or partnership
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.20000, Best ask: 44.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 44.15000, 24 hour volume: 108129.84604915, 24 hour low: 37.41306, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.54922
maximian: imo, the best case scenario for s.dice is an acquisition by a big player looking for a quick entrance into btcland
mircea_popescu: ;;calc 46852 * 40.55
gribble: 1899848.6
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.00075 = 13.425 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: 19 mn or so are certainly nothing for sometyhing like s,dice
mircea_popescu: so a deal will prolly be a nice payout for btc shareholders.
maximian: exactly
mircea_popescu: course, it has to happen first.
maximian: tremendous mindshare/brand awareness for a bargain price of 19-20m
mircea_popescu: but i can see erik reasonably walking away from anything under 100mn total
mircea_popescu: which you know... would be a 500% gain
maximian: yep, it's a possibility, and I believe he's the kind of guy who could pull it off.
pigeons: spam detected
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 500 @ 0.17591975 = 87.9599 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i imagine he's pretty motivated to do it too.
mircea_popescu: no better way to showcase btc success than a successful exit for him.
mircea_popescu: coingenuity https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144611.msg1585748#msg1585748
Namworld: I think the current success would be shorting your BTC for USD
Namworld: Buy back later at a lower price
mircea_popescu: you can sell calls short which would be doing exactly that.
mircea_popescu: but it'd take a brave man.
Namworld: eh, none of that for me
mircea_popescu: I think 67117 is proxy pool. The hash output is always simillar to SLUSH's. SLUSH has 2.6% rejection rate -they obviusly proxy pooling. Still not real proof of working ASIC.
mircea_popescu: ouch
mircea_popescu: anyone rthat understands mining, how sensible is that ?
mircea_popescu: specifically, how traceable is hashing based on the reject rate ?
Namworld: network hashing is estimated based on blocks found...
mircea_popescu: no i mean
mircea_popescu: obviously i can set up a mining pool account and proxy other peoples mining there.
mircea_popescu: question is, can this be at all traced based on some qualities of the hash flux
Namworld: Not sure how it works.
Chaang-Noi: sales on gox slowed
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.00000, Best ask: 44.12509, Bid-ask spread: 0.12509, Last trade: 43.66490, 24 hour volume: 108414.79454220, 24 hour low: 37.41306, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.57198
Namworld: about time it slowed a bit...
Chaang-Noi: yeah
mircea_popescu: 108k is some decent volume anyway
mircea_popescu: o hey, it occurs to me, this is the right time to get hacked right ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.49100001 = 22.095 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.491 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4682 = 4.682 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4681 = 0.9362 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4674 = 0.9348 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4588 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 18 @ 0.4511 = 8.1198 BTC [-]
aiball: mr. p. I'd say that's the biggest wild card at the moment - a high profile hack. your shit is safe right?
mircea_popescu: aiball as safe as i know how to make it.
aiball: do you know what's wrong with s.dice price? is this just a dollar based stock?
mircea_popescu: if you read history it's been discussed just hourish ago
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1586172#msg1586172 lmao
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 3 @ 0.63494 = 1.9048 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "If you're looking for a loan for Bitcoin Poker at Seals, let me know."
mircea_popescu: how does that work ? paid if the op wins only ?
mircea_popescu: "I notice there are some BTC bookies. So I thought I would help bettors win more bets. I began betting on sports back in December 2012 with a nice record so far. "
mircea_popescu: jumpin' jesus on a stick, three months is now a track record ;/
mircea_popescu: haha check this out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149496.msg1587971#msg1587971 the whale emerges.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 516 @ 0.00073315 = 0.3783 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11784 @ 0.00073156 = 8.6207 BTC [-]
mod6: well -assets, its been an exciting day!
Chaang-Noi: :)
mod6: s.dice has had an interesting ride into divs, and even after... seems to be doing the inverse of what you would expect.
mircea_popescu: nn mod6
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00999 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 98 @ 0.00999 = 0.979 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.00300002 = 0.3 BTC [-]
BitHub: its amazing the amount of amatures that i come across sometimes, they dont even have a business plan or anything and think they're going to land on an exchange or PT and be taken seriously?
Chaang-Noi: got security cams on my house, pretty need seeing my yard from my phone:)
Chaang-Noi: neat*
mod6: lol from your phone even 'eh?
mod6: BitHub: well, we all have to start somewhere.
Chaang-Noi: yeah, had no idea it could do that but hell, same price
BitHub: I know, i'm about 6 months old and i wouldn't even consider doing it yet
mod6: too many amatures not enough pros, too many bitches, not enough ho's...
Chaang-Noi: got 4 rotts to garud the house, neighbors start to fuck with the rotts... so i get video camerias to protect the rotts, fucking crazy
BitHub: i met this guy maybe a month into it? no business plan, its crazy
BitHub: no sales?
Chaang-Noi: and i need a truck for the rotts... cuz 4 large dogs are big... but its good cuz the rotts can gaurd the truck... fucking crazy
BitHub: how do you value your company without sales?
mod6: rotts are supposed to be awesome dogs.
Chaang-Noi: they are really good, have 3 females and a male, im breeding them
Chaang-Noi: ltc back to 20 cetns lol
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 270 @ 0.17776447 = 47.9964 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 950 @ 0.0046 = 4.37 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: bid is at .003 for dice ask is .0045? massive spread?
mircea_popescu: <mod6> too many amatures not enough pros, too many bitches, not enough ho's... << good one
mircea_popescu: it's spelled amateurs tho
mod6: eek! my bad.
mircea_popescu: i liked that line enough im now digging to find who the fuck came up with it
mircea_popescu: loverance ?
mod6: its an old ludacris song
mod6: lol and i mis-remembered how it goes
Chaang-Noi: who wants to be coinabul gets scammer tag? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149253.20;topicseen
Chaang-Noi: they cant send the silver cuz they will lose money
mod6: "i hate it when its too many niggas, not enough hoes, too many rookies, not enough pros!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4 @ 0.0046 = 0.0184 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: mod6 your mistaken version was better
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi he's not getting it what, are you kidding ?
eeeCurrencyDotCo: lookin for mah man Mircea!
Chaang-Noi: he is saying he cant give the silver because he would run out of money
Chaang-Noi: he admits the guy paid for it
Chaang-Noi: and coinibul fucked up on insurance...
mod6: coingenuity?! say it aint so!?
Chaang-Noi: how can someone who as been in btc land so long be so fucking poor?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 816 @ 0.00073156 = 0.597 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1030 @ 0.00073043 = 0.7523 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7259 @ 0.00073042 = 5.3021 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: what i got from the digest was, customer paid, provider shipped, insurance blew up.
mircea_popescu: why's provider getting a scammer tag again ?
Chaang-Noi: fail to insure it correctly
mircea_popescu: what's that mean ?
Chaang-Noi: correct insurance was paid for but not recived
eeeCurrencyDotCo: Mircea, its' peter from eee - you sent me a link to chat with you here.
mircea_popescu: as in, they insured the wrong item ?
Chaang-Noi: if i send you a gold bar and tell you it is insured and you pay a fee for that, but it is not insured then its a scam
mircea_popescu: hello eeeCurrencyDotCo
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi but it was insured neh ?
Chaang-Noi: it seems they did not insure the item in the correct way, coinibul fucked up
Chaang-Noi: it was not insured correctly
mircea_popescu: what do you mean correctly ? like they insured the wrong item or soemthing ?
Chaang-Noi: if i ship you a gold bar, but insure a taco... its a scam
Chaang-Noi: the insureance company said the item was not insured even thought coinibal did pay a fee
mircea_popescu: so how's that on him lol.
Chaang-Noi: coinibul did not read the fine print
eeeCurrencyDotCo: :) (hi everybody) - I'm here for a specific reason, but I saw someone mention insurance. is there someone offering insurance on btc? I had ben contemplating getting my US license to offer to be an insurance broker and perhaps do somethng
mircea_popescu: if you give me a hundred bucks to give to mod6 for towing your car
mircea_popescu: and i give him 100 but he doesn't tow your car
mircea_popescu: well.., talk to mod6
Chaang-Noi: if i send you a car from thailand and insure it, but fine print says we dont insure cars whos fault is it?
mircea_popescu: haha that's ridiculous. so are they dropping that insurer now ?
Chaang-Noi: but mp i paid you a preiumuim to do the insurance for me...
Chaang-Noi: yes mp they did a differnt insurance company cuz turned out they did not have insurance
Chaang-Noi: they moved
mod6: i would guess yah, just change insuance co's and that should set it right.
Chaang-Noi: but coinibul still fucked up, the buyer is not at fault here
Chaang-Noi: well, one guy is out of 80 btc worht of silver
mircea_popescu: well for all you know buyer got the silver
eeeCurrencyDotCo: isn't the liability on the person with the implied or definitive contract?
mircea_popescu: i mean, these word against word things are difficult to break up
Chaang-Noi: package never arived
mod6: yeah :/
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi so the guy says
Chaang-Noi: they have tracking to priove buyer never got package
mircea_popescu: other guy says package was sent
Chaang-Noi: coinibul posted tracking number
mircea_popescu: um
eeeCurrencyDotCo: if you contract with person a and bring person b in to it, isnt the contract with person a, not b?
Chaang-Noi: conibul said it got lost in customs
mircea_popescu: so then wait. if package never arrived it's the post ?
Chaang-Noi: post or customs stole it, yeah
mircea_popescu: ah it's one of those
mircea_popescu: ya those never end up well.
mircea_popescu: still. customs should get the tag.
Chaang-Noi: so buy was like wtf, i want silver
Chaang-Noi: the coinibul was like sorry, silver not insured, fuck off
mircea_popescu: nobody insures against customs confiscations.
eeeCurrencyDotCo: ups just delivered a package today and left it with no sig - who should replace the loss? ups or the shipper?
Chaang-Noi: if there is insurance they need to cover it, but if it was sold as insured and not insured its a fucking scam
mircea_popescu: i guess this is why i am not in the business of delivering bullion to the retail postage market.
mircea_popescu: sucks for margins, sucks for operations, sucks all around.
Chaang-Noi: yeah... reading fine print help...
BitHub: yep
Chaang-Noi: but jesus he willl destroy his rep for 80 btc saying he has no money to give the guy silver,,, how can he be so poor and be in btc that long...
BitHub: need in house vaults
mod6: well, who knows dude.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi it's liability management
mircea_popescu: if he does this then he's going to have a rash of people trying it.
mircea_popescu: don't underestimate the interwebs slave culture.
Chaang-Noi: the buyer has proof he never got the shit...
mircea_popescu: people will do incredible things for pennies.
BitHub: i hope coinabul works it out :) seems like a good kind
Chaang-Noi: the buyer could not have scammed here
Chaang-Noi: i ordered from coinibul myself once, ill never do it again...
BitHub: but you two are like broooos
Chaang-Noi: and that was cuz he fucked my order up, not this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0035 = 0.35 BTC [-]
eeeCurrencyDotCo: Mircea, when is a good time to come back and chat with you about setting up an exchange, or becoming a broker, or getting listed?
mod6: well, personally, i think its a cool business (many others think its pretty neat-o too), I hope he gets it squared away.
mircea_popescu: eeeCurrencyDotCo now is fine
mircea_popescu: you go /query mircea_popescu to talk in private.
BitHub: aww
eeeCurrencyDotCo: Thanks
mircea_popescu: lol is that the mtgox 1satoshi bot pushing the s.dice down ?
maximian: Hey, at least there's some action!
mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136255249324.png "plz to insert buttcoinz"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0046 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: mornin
mircea_popescu: what, you slept ?!
kakobrekla: myeah
kakobrekla: it sucks!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.0045 = 0.45 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0046 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: so runup to 45, retrace to 44, back for another go
kakobrekla: ;;stats
gribble: I have 16 registered users with 21 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
kakobrekla: no that u silly
kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 224491 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1300 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 21 hours, 41 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4775657.49997 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.33592
kakobrekla: ;;ticker
kakobrekla: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.34351, Best ask: 44.68217, Bid-ask spread: 0.33866, Last trade: 44.68217, 24 hour volume: 105246.62244956, 24 hour low: 37.72771, 24 hour high: 45.00000, 24 hour vwap: 40.78103
mircea_popescu: 16 users, that little ?>!
gribble: 1 BTC = 44.68217 U.S. dollars = 34.1999005 Euros
kakobrekla: damn.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla recall what you said about btc ?
mircea_popescu: YOU WERE WRONG. it's not 32, its 34.
kakobrekla: dunn o said a lot of stuff
kakobrekla: ah ah
mircea_popescu: :p
kakobrekla: :DD
kakobrekla: i said 33 then.
kakobrekla: close eh?
mircea_popescu: yeah lol
mircea_popescu: you should start a subscrtiption service.
kakobrekla: hahah
mircea_popescu: "i'ma go take a piss. by the time im back, btc is 1 ford escort per"
kakobrekla: :DDDDDD
mircea_popescu: then it turns true and everyone is "buy kakobrekla escorts"
kakobrekla: "and i havent pissed in a long while"
kakobrekla: lol
[\\\]: so when's the correction?
kakobrekla: you mean the 100$?
Chaang-Noi: after 125
kakobrekla: need to wait a bit more
mircea_popescu: [\\\] the way my book is loaded if we go back to 30 im'a be floating in a pond of btc
Chaang-Noi: fuuuuck 45.77
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.50000, Best ask: 44.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 45.77190, 24 hour volume: 105273.67523350, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 45.77190, 24 hour vwap: 40.95523
Chaang-Noi: lo wat?
kakobrekla: no, its hi wat.
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.50000, Best ask: 44.56634, Bid-ask spread: 0.06634, Last trade: 44.56634, 24 hour volume: 105176.47600550, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 45.77190, 24 hour vwap: 40.95719
Chaang-Noi: amphipod> Mar06 07:05:44 mtgox x221 1,000.0000 @ 4,319.05105821 JPY
Chaang-Noi: it was in yen
Chaang-Noi: lol fuck
mircea_popescu: lol
Namworld: ;;ticker yen
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Namworld: ;;ticker JPY
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Namworld: ;;ticker --JPY
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid currency (1 more message)
Namworld: ;;ticker --currency JPY
gribble: BTCJPY ticker | Best bid: 4200.899, Best ask: 4292.351, Bid-ask spread: 91.45200, Last trade: 4371.772, 24 hour volume: 5026.74060167, 24 hour low: 3531.751, 24 hour high: 4371.772, 24 hour vwap: 4236.634
mod6: did i just see that right?
mod6: nearly hit 46
mod6: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.60001, Best ask: 44.94191, Bid-ask spread: 0.34190, Last trade: 44.51434, 24 hour volume: 105828.92739695, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 45.98000, 24 hour vwap: 41.05239
Chaang-Noi: in yen not usd
mod6: ;;asks 46
gribble: There are currently 573.51808 bitcoins offered at or under 46.0 USD, worth 26378.2569228 USD in total. | Data vintage: 69.3444 seconds
Chaang-Noi: it looks to me like mt gox is bidding this shit up...
mod6: o thats why
mod6: just only 573 to 46 USD
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.50000001 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 20 @ 0.5 = 10 BTC [-]
[\\\]: You know, I'm surprised people don't bring that up more
[\\\]: mtgox has a vested interest in having the price of bitcoin go up
mod6: Chaang-Noi: yeah
Chaang-Noi: no one cares
[\\\]: since they charge half their fees in btc
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.00667 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 54 @ 0.00666 = 0.3596 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 19 @ 0.0066 = 0.1254 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: went from 12 to 45, now the public is buying... i dont give a fuck if it is gox or not, but i bet it is partly them...
kakobrekla: [\\\], depends on your settings
Chaang-Noi: you know the gox people are old timers who have a shit load of btc... lose some fiat, make massive gain in btc...
Chaang-Noi: i do that in ltc at time... pump and dump
mircea_popescu: [\\\] everyone does, tho.
mircea_popescu: the thing with btc is that it's useful worth 1 unit at a market cap < 1bn, and worth significantly more than 10 units at a market cap > 10bn
[\\\]: kakobrekla, what do you mean?
kakobrekla: [\\\] you can set it so fees are taken from fiat side only
[\\\]: yeah, but you still pay the same amount
kakobrekla: in dollars
[\\\]: they just take the equivalent amount in USD
kakobrekla: or whatever
Chaang-Noi: i quit?
[\\\]: it is still the same fee
kakobrekla: so it doesnt matter if btc goes up for them
kakobrekla: if they have ur dollars
[\\\]: taking a fee of .5% of a $30 btc vs a $5 btc
Chaang-Noi: if i have 1,000,000 btc and it costs me 1,000,000 fiat to move the price from $15 to $30 then i spend 1 million to get 15 million...
kakobrekla: ya but its 30 000 usd not 5 000 usd
[\\\]: that isn't a yeah but
[\\\]: you're making my point
kakobrekla: you are moving more fiat
kakobrekla: ofc there will be more fee
[\\\]: regardless of how you express it, they're getting more USD
kakobrekla: halooo
[\\\]: they're still moving the same amount of btc, why should the fee go up? ;)
kakobrekla: casuse its more dwollars
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar06 07:21:21 mtgox x62 414.2822 @ 45.90051627 USD
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar06 07:21:21 mtgox x66 532.4452 @ 4,387.21444939 JPY
Chaang-Noi: 946... maybe out of money?
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 8 @ 0.00568 = 0.0454 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.44733, Best ask: 45.68716, Bid-ask spread: 0.23983, Last trade: 45.44733, 24 hour volume: 106156.27636265, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.11371
kakobrekla: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 45.68716 U.S. dollars = 34.8251848 Euros
Chaang-Noi: 46 lol almost
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.67000, Best ask: 45.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.31000, Last trade: 45.98000, 24 hour volume: 106101.67272176, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.12159
Chaang-Noi: oh shit we killed 46 already
[\\\]: red bold text makes for easy reading: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75802.msg1589202#msg1589202
mircea_popescu: noway
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.67000, Best ask: 45.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.31000, Last trade: 45.98000, 24 hour volume: 106146.37381511, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.40000, 24 hour vwap: 41.12535
mircea_popescu: dude this needs to simmer down
mircea_popescu: i need to go shower, get laid, do human stuff
mircea_popescu: i can't be spending my days watching the screens ;/
Chaang-Noi: yeah i hear ya... girls dont like giving bjs when you look at charts...
Chaang-Noi: theymos has some tricky shit dealing with glbse and scammer tags
Chaang-Noi: he has to be careful or he will need to give him self a few lol
mircea_popescu: girls don't mind, that's what slavery was invented for.
mircea_popescu: however, i mind.
Chaang-Noi: i at this time do not have a slave.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 99 @ 0.0035 = 0.3465 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 50
gribble: There are currently 11272.36 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 542707.482662 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
Chaang-Noi: at this rate we will be at $50 this time tomorrow
Chaang-Noi: oh shit, just found 5000 ltc i forgot about
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.00100, Best ask: 46.41402, Bid-ask spread: 0.41302, Last trade: 46.00000, 24 hour volume: 107455.02852074, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.49000, 24 hour vwap: 41.24338
Namworld: bwuahahaha
Chaang-Noi: :)
Chaang-Noi: ltc over 20 cetns too
Namworld: So that's a $1000 you just found
Chaang-Noi: i was checking old wallets
Chaang-Noi: i knew where it was, but i forgot it had coin in it
Chaang-Noi: thought id check cuz new hights...
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.005401 = 0.054 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0054 = 0.0162 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.00502 = 0.1255 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0053 = 0.53 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 92 @ 0.005 = 0.46 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: dice trades for .0035 on exchange pt is .0054? lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 84 @ 0.65 = 54.6 BTC [-]
Namworld: PTs lag behind a bit.
Chaang-Noi: <amphipod> Mar06 07:48:37 bitfloor 6.3606 @ 48.49 USD
Chaang-Noi: seems bullish
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.44 = 2.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.43 = 2.15 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.425 = 0.85 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.42 = 2.1 BTC [-]
Namworld: S.DICE on the other hand is going down the drain
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.955 = 1.91 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: never thought it would last, shocked it did as well as it has
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.41 = 2.05 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: sooo i just realised
mircea_popescu: mpoe bot traded ~30k calls today, + 10k or so puts
mircea_popescu: this is like a good fraction of mtgox's day.
Chaang-Noi: seems people are bullish eh?
mircea_popescu: way.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.20199, Best ask: 46.83966, Bid-ask spread: 0.63767, Last trade: 46.90000, 24 hour volume: 108408.53715162, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 41.38489
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4 = 4 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: apparently with good reason.
Chaang-Noi: yeah... its smart to buy up all the calls, then dump 10 million on gox....
coingenuity: Chaang-Noi: not at all
Chaang-Noi: get tones of shit, sell back 10 million btc, at the much higher price, and do it again
Chaang-Noi: free money
coingenuity: Chaang-Noi: i explained that it's the insurance company's choice to insure any parcel...
coingenuity: :P
Chaang-Noi: man he never got his silver, you never gave it to him, end of stopry
coingenuity: incorrect 100%
Chaang-Noi: he got the silver/
Chaang-Noi: ?
Chaang-Noi: you need to post in the thread if he got the silver man...
coingenuity: he was given his silver, his country's goverment stole it, i was going to replace it until he wrote a script to annoy me
coingenuity: end of story
coingenuity: anyway, i can't talk with you, i'm eating dinner
Chaang-Noi: you failed to get him the silver
Chaang-Noi: your going to get killed in that thread man, just man up and pay it back
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18460872 = 184.6087 BTC [+]
Namworld: Doesn't coinabul specify the user must research import laws for his country himself? If the silver/gold is seized at the customs, no coinabul's problem.
coingenuity: Namworld: yes, we do
Chaang-Noi: customs clearly will claim there was no silver... (as they stole it) its not like shipping to Austriala is illegal
coingenuity: Namworld: aside from insuring, and paying premiums on said insurance, for all parcels who's owners request it, we cannot do anything to change the minds of insurance companies nor governments...
coingenuity: (although we always do our best to try)
Chaang-Noi: you need to say on your website insured shipping does not imp[ly the shipping is insured and delivery is not guarranteed
Chaang-Noi: also 47... almost
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 47
gribble: There are currently 3915.0774 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 183856.80088 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ahh nice wall on 47
coingenuity: Chaang-Noi: i'm going to ignore your instigation, insured shipping is insured
coingenuity: i have more important work to do than bicker about nothing with you
Chaang-Noi: you came here buddy
Chaang-Noi: best of luck
coingenuity: Chaang-Noi: come back to me when you've contributed anything more than trolling to the bitcoin community as a whole...
coingenuity: anyway, /ignore
Chaang-Noi: oh slam, a scammer called me a troll, buuuurn :)
coingenuity: Chaang-Noi: i'm almost certain you've 1. ordered gold from me 2. had that gold delivered to you successfully
coingenuity: so yeah, really?
Chaang-Noi: yeah it took a month
Chaang-Noi: i felt cheated i needed it right away,
Chaang-Noi: you did not steal from me, but id never use you again...
Chaang-Noi: however i need that gold to sell for fiat and you fucked me over by taking forever
Chaang-Noi: and i lost a lot of value while waiting
Chaang-Noi: dont have have me on ignore? im going afk anyway
Chaang-Noi: 46.9 new ath,
Chaang-Noi: that small wall at 47 should slow us down a bit
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 47
gribble: There are currently 2982.5833 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 140147.42823 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18488932 = 184.8893 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 47
gribble: There are currently 3728.5372 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 175132.256038 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0066 = 0.033 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18548653 = 185.4865 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.27 = 1.08 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18619661 = 186.1966 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.06200, Best ask: 46.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03800, Last trade: 46.10000, 24 hour volume: 109292.22019850, 24 hour low: 38.48373, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 41.61645
mircea_popescu: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08490939 / 47.44997453 / 50.14846327 (no shares, 13,996.17 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
mircea_popescu: over 50. this is historix.
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 9 minutes and 32 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.18991695 = 189.917 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/291/bitcoin-over-50-by-march-13th/
mircea_popescu: put a bitcoin in teh oix!
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.190908 = 190.908 BTC [+]
ZedsterX: ouch dice is dead
kakobrekla: nah
kakobrekla: some will pull out, sell the coin
kakobrekla: other people will buy the coins and put it back in
kakobrekla: just a shuffle
ZedsterX: has $45 really come and gone today
kakobrekla: i sold 100 for my father for 4670
ZedsterX: i am trying to buy a few :P
ZedsterX: only 42 on BTC-e just hard to get USD there
ZedsterX: hard to get them there fast at least
ZedsterX: well i did get em for 45
TradeFortress: ZedsterX, you can always just long it
dub: ;;goxlag
gribble: 245.37453 seconds
kakobrekla: lol
dub: it was 600 earlier
kakobrekla: no hardware can make up for bad code
dub: its retarded, pretty much random whether your order hits
kakobrekla: yes gox is retarded
kakobrekla: also stamp is retarded
kakobrekla: but just a little less
kakobrekla: or maybe even not that
kakobrekla: just the money is out quicker there
kakobrekla: sill no solid platform to trade btc
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00548 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 191 @ 0.00548 = 1.0467 BTC [+]
dub: market buy around 43.9 buys at 44.50
assbot: [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.63494 BTC [-]
TradeFortress: woha
TradeFortress: sdiec bid is at IPO prices
TradeFortress: yet people are still buying it for 0.0052 on bf
TradeFortress: keep putting up bids on BF please
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [+]
Bowjob: meow
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.14403, Best ask: 46.47898, Bid-ask spread: 0.33495, Last trade: 46.14403, 24 hour volume: 105262.95331360, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.31133
Bowjob: holy titfuck
TradeFortress: morning!
TradeFortress: expect $50 tommorow when you wake up.
TradeFortress: mpex down or just me?
leotreasure: it looks down to me
TradeFortress: hmm yea so does downforeveryoneorjustme.com
leotreasure: must be a recent thing it was working not too long ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.65 = 32.5 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 25 @ 0.00999 = 0.2498 BTC [+]
dub: try http://mpex.coinbr.com/
Bowjob: oh god
Bowjob: guys I won the bet.. LTC will reach 20cents
Bowjob: .. damj
Bowjob: I feel like I deserved a bit more coins
TradeFortress: dub, doesn't work.
dub: does for me
TradeFortress: 504 Gateway Time-out
TradeFortress: nginx
jurov: yep, none is working
jurov: like someone cooked their router again
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.6498 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.4 = 6.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]
Bowjob: Ooh
Bowjob: Look at Dice go
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: I got out just in time
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00073198 = 5.2703 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [-]
jurov: interesting... mpex offline but it does report trades
jurov: at least mpex.coinbr.com works now
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 84 @ 0.00549 = 0.4612 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+]
Bowjob: I'll be a bro and give some of my friends an opportunity to buy BTC
Bowjob: lol
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00549 = 0.0824 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: lol wtf is this shit
kakobrekla: Kim Dotcom @KimDotcom
kakobrekla: #Megacard: I would love to create a #Bitcoin credit card! Who can help us make it happen? Email: twitter@kim.com
Bowjob: that ianbakewell is gonna get slaughtered
Bowjob: with 600 BTC loan
Namworld: ?
Bowjob: ian borrowed 600 BTC when they were 34 dollars each
Bowjob: btc-e is down
Namworld: For what purpose?
Namworld: I'm also borrowing BTC
Bowjob: shorting?
Bowjob: ,h,
Namworld: nah, I'll grab some S.DICE or stuff like that for my passthroughs while it's cheap.
Troic_: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: Quest for vision is a great blessing.
Troic_: !ticker h s.dice
assbot: Quest for vision is a great blessing.
kakobrekla: ask on bitstamp at 48 heh
Namworld: what's happening with MPEx?
fydel1: yeah..that's a good question
jurov: i don't know. at least the backend works
maximian: probably a DoS attack, happened a few weeks ago
Namworld: backend works... I guess the web interface is being updated
jurov: it's more complicated... http://mpex.coinbr.com is a proxy (accepts orders/stat, too)
jurov: and it works fine now (but it was not for a while, too)
mjr_: hi all
mjr_: whats up with mpex?
jurov: hello, no idea
jurov: coinbr works atm
mjr_: yep
jurov: cuz we access alternate mpex ip
mjr_: ah nice
jurov: but that can change anytime
mjr_: this is just crazy right now
kakobrekla: which part
mjr_: 46?
kakobrekla: a that
mjr_: so fast
mjr_: i bought the 41 calls as a long shot
kakobrekla: :)
kakobrekla: apparently you shot accuratley on long distances
jurov: coinbr user support is becoming fun. got another email "i bought C37Ts, now i'm selling and nobody wants them, help!"
jurov: explained to him how to click Exercise link right on dashboard...
jurov: but looks like thay sold in meantime anyway
jurov: whale gobbled everything
jurov: looks like we need to create MPOE Emergency Relief fund
jurov: or MP can start selling extraordinary mpoe bonds
mjr_: troubled asset relief?
mjr_: why would he sell or exercise now? there is like 21 days left...
jurov: he did not explain.. seems he didn't know what he's doing
kakobrekla: http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected
kakobrekla: kinda interesting
jurov: Oo bitstamp is at 48? time to sell a bit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.51 = 3.06 BTC [+]
Bowjob: http://i.imgur.com/AAPO3vk.png
kakobrekla: i asked that question a week or so ago
kakobrekla: no answer in this chan
kakobrekla: thought we had smart ppl here.
jurov: Rule 1. We do not know what is paypal
jurov: Rule 2. Even if we know, we never speak about it.
kakobrekla: shit, might add that to the bitcoin-assets.com
kakobrekla: cause i herd its useless
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 47
gribble: There are currently 5140.5779 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 240829.255427 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds
Chaang-Noi: ;;bids-35
gribble: Error: "bids-35" is not a valid command.
jurov: bitcoin-central at 38.5 , bitstamp at 47, lol
jurov: must do something about
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.42009, Best ask: 45.42019, Bid-ask spread: 0.00010, Last trade: 45.42021, 24 hour volume: 99525.39008012, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.60348
Bowjob: crash
jurov: ooooh the btccentral price is in eur.. even moar intriguing
Bowjob: see you at single digits
jurov: ;;bc,convert,eur
gribble: Error: "bc,convert,eur" is not a valid command.
jurov: ;;bc,convert eur
gribble: 1 BTC = 45.39100 U.S. dollars = 34.761066 Euros
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34499 BTC [+]
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 40 @ 0.00549 = 0.2196 BTC [+]
Bugpowder: Alt link for mpex? Getting ddosed?
jurov: Bugpowder, mpex.coinbr.com
Bugpowder: Tx
Bugpowder: Wow .003
Bowjob: whats 0.003
Bugpowder: Sdice
Bowjob: ah
Bowjob: ive seen it coming, really
Bugpowder: I called it first
Bowjob: the dice is just worth as the month's volume
Bowjob: well, I got out of the dice just in time lolz
Bowjob: someone gave away over 300 BTC last night
Bowjob: that was delicious
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
Bowjob: also bug
Bowjob: you were like.. dice is safe now, get back in
Bowjob: i remember :P
Bowjob: the overall profit doesnt really matter to a new shareholder
Bowjob: its that month that matters
Bowjob: lol
Bugpowder: Whatever
Bugpowder: It will bounce from here
Bugpowder: Or near hear
Bugpowder: Might take a few weeks
Bugpowder: I will wait
kakobrekla: techical support at 2.50 mBTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.38 = 2.66 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 375 @ 0.19683239 = 73.8121 BTC [+]
Bowjob: ian was right to short dice it seems
Bowjob: shorting is such a ballsy move it scares me
kakobrekla: did i mention this here before,
kakobrekla: i am sure that he bitstamp owners
kakobrekla: do not use bitstamp.
kakobrekla: he=the
Bowjob: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/19oiht/rbitcoin_lets_share_with_those_in_need_for_every/
Bowjob: Damn
jurov: kakobrekla and now what should i think about that?
Bowjob: I was posting this link last night anyone got their bitcoins
kakobrekla: i dont know, they are idiots
jurov: judging from long-standing fee bugs i hear about, it may be as well true
jurov: or they fear to fix it cuz they have no unit tests
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1950 @ 0.00073247 = 1.4283 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11303 @ 0.00074548 = 8.4262 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 47
gribble: There are currently 4711.5328 bitcoins offered at or under 47.0 USD, worth 220954.276368 USD in total. | Data vintage: 115.7926 seconds
jurov: sigh. i have updated the coinbr engine to use mpex track code, all fine and dandy
kakobrekla: the problem is most of bitcoins users are idiots as well
kakobrekla: to it goes along just fine.
jurov: but now the unit tests must be fixed. and that's much bigger task
jurov: and new ones added for the "track used/track not used" cases
Bowjob: http://imgur.com/r/Bitcoin/UqYgqRy
jurov: dis wrong. bitcoin is always mean.
kakobrekla: yes we are at the first selloff
kakobrekla: or something
kakobrekla: lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16243 @ 0.00073204 = 11.8905 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1144 @ 0.00073198 = 0.8374 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5063 @ 0.0007313 = 3.7026 BTC [-]
Bowjob: actually were in the take off phase
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.20000, Best ask: 46.48800, Bid-ask spread: 0.28800, Last trade: 46.20000, 24 hour volume: 99179.19073160, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.70440
kakobrekla: https://twitter.com/SilkRoadDrugs/status/309238128097517568
thestringpuller: wtf is this shit
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: Quest for vision is a great blessing.
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^OIX
thestringpuller: give me the option index dammit!!!!!
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
jurov: !ticker m OIX^
Guest98560: 47.45
assbot: Some are born to endless night.
jurov: i guess assbot fails to access the website
jurov: although it reports trades fine, dunno
assbot: Nope, some are just born to endless night.
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.23825, Best ask: 46.33559, Bid-ask spread: 0.09734, Last trade: 46.23824, 24 hour volume: 99397.65043641, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 42.72776
Bowjob: what do you know. i get richer just by fapping
Bowjob: hehe
jurov: url of webcam or didnt happen
kakobrekla: here, to help you whore out http://www.cam4btc.com/
jurov: unittests hacking brings nostalgia "Your order to BUY 1 O.BTCUSD.C110T @0.20000000BTC each has been received and will be processed."
jurov: going even deeper "Your order to BUY 2 O.BTCUSD.P040T @0.00014536BTC each has been received" now they don't exist lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8891 @ 0.0007313 = 6.502 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5356 @ 0.0007313 = 3.9168 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00414309 = 1.2429 BTC [+]
gesell: mpex down?
jurov: gesell yes, use mpex.coinbr.com
jurov: we bought it
gesell: what tha
gesell: you what
gesell: ?
gesell: what happened to the vps that used to be on mpex?
gesell: or was there?
gesell: thought bitvps was there
jurov: yup. went yest to timisoara and bought mpex, for a few lines of blow
TomServo: PsychoticBoy: Never hacked I think... he reported a DDOS outage a while back I believe.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.0007313 = 0.7233 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00072769 = 2.6925 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 985 @ 0.00072612 = 0.7152 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00072378 = 5.5369 BTC [-]
ZedsterX: lol jurov
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9050 @ 0.00071218 = 6.4452 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00071077 = 1.1017 BTC [-]
gesell: jurov: this is insane
jurov: gesell, you actually believe it? btw, i have picked up few nifty asic rigs en route in budapetst
ZedsterX: stop now!
ZedsterX: send me one
gesell: btw, just posted this on redit but... pretty ascii graphs with: curl -s "http://bitcoincharts.com/t/trades.csv?symbol=mtgoxEUR&start=`date -v-1H +%s`" | gnuplot -e 'set datafile separator ","; set xdata time; set timefmt "%s"; unset key; set format x "%H%M"; set parametric; set y2tics; set tics nomirror out; set y2tics format "%.2f"; unset mxtics; set border 9; unset my2tics; unset ytics; set xtics scale 0; set term dumb; plot "-" using
jurov: bah... i'm owning btc now, u think i'll just send someone somethig?
gesell: jurov: sorry yeah i havent been in this room in a while so getting used to the troll factor again ;)
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P730T] 1 @ 0.90910719 BTC
Guest98560: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: Yeah. No damn tobacco, that's for sure.
Guest98560: assbot feed donw :(
ThickAsThieves: ayo! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1590335#msg1590335
BitHub: is there an official asicminer room here?
BitHub: i'm in #asicminer btw
ThickAsThieves: this is better than an asicminer room
jurov: we have anything "official" in bitcoinland?
kakobrekla: this is officially official bitcoin chan
pigeons: nice padded walls
BitHub: hehe yeah this room is better
BitHub: more info
jurov: official with Slightly Smoky Dragon and Double Cherry Truck insignia
pigeons: i can't get the only service that has never been hacked to come up
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
BitHub: its been hacked
maximian: http://mpex.coinbr.com/
maximian: proxy site
maximian: the front end http server is down, not the MPEX backend
ZedsterX: i told him to put yet on the end of his never been hacked sentence
Chaang-Noi: asic miner payment incoming :)
Chaang-Noi: i assume
Chaang-Noi: cuz testpaymesnt, oh i cant wait, muhahahah biiig money
BitHub: correcto :)
BitHub: its exciting ^_^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.381 = 2.667 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.3801 = 3.801 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.38 = 1.52 BTC [-]
error4733: hello, maybe the question was asked 10.000time but MPEX down ? :/
ZedsterX: topic should be changed here maybe
ZedsterX: but http://mpex.coinbr.com/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00070613 = 10.0977 BTC [-]
ZedsterX: try that
error4733: it'a clone where you scam my gpg order ?
error4733: ;)
error4733: thanks
ZedsterX: nah the front of the server is down
ZedsterX: he is renting the host :)
ZedsterX: so they say
error4733: why down ? attack ?
ZedsterX: thats only what i hear
pigeons: never!
ZedsterX: never!
error4733: to much porn on server ?
ZedsterX: MP spreads way too luv for that
error4733: haha thanks for this morning joke, need it
BitHub: think the cia kidnapped mircea again
jurov: then prolly the domain would be seized
kakobrekla: must be the dns cache
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.46899999 = 0.938 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.469 = 2.345 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.46999999 = 0.94 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.47 = 4.7 BTC [+]
BitHub: i think i'm getting the same amount of jah mining divs than i would at asicminer shares at 0.65 hah
thestringpuller: lol mircea_popescu got on bitinstants case but mpex is down
BitHub: anyone else finding that?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu we summon thee!
thestringpuller: he took the money and ran
thestringpuller: mpex is scam after al
thestringpuller: all
thestringpuller: waaah
thestringpuller: waaah
thestringpuller: lol
smickles: thestringpuller: i owe you some monies :)
Ukto: smickles!
smickles: anduck too, if he's around
jurov: oh hi smickles
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00070613 = 2.3302 BTC [-]
thestringpuller: smickles returns, does he return with news of a second born?
mjr_: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.77107, Best ask: 46.78122, Bid-ask spread: 0.01015, Last trade: 46.77107, 24 hour volume: 94579.93372571, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 46.93000, 24 hour vwap: 43.05662
Guest98560: who
Bugpowdrr: he took it down cause he don't wanna sell anymore calls.
Bugpowdrr: 46.90
Chaang-Noi: mpex down?
Chaang-Noi: mp ran with the btc or hacked?
jurov: Chaang-Noi yes and no
DeaDTerra: wh yis mPEX down?
Chaang-Noi: :)
DeaDTerra: why is *
jurov: dunno
error4733: bug : haha
error4733: sooo much call sold last week !
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00069034 = 3.1065 BTC [-]
jurov: but the backend is working ( and proxied by mpex.coinbr.com ).. don't know why they can't move the domain elsewhere
jurov: or make any statement
unbalanced: !ticker h sdice
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.37000000 / 0.49368267 / 0.59000000 (622 shares, 307.07061895 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.58757632 / 0.68950000 (1682 shares, 988.30336796 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.6373535 / 0.76500000 (10868 shares, 6926.75789072 BTC)
maximian: thanks for your proxy service jurov :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.401 = 4.01 BTC [-]
smickles: < thestringpuller> smickles returns, does he return with news of a second born? shouldn't be until mid-may
ThickAsThieves: mp went to go do "human" things a few hours ago
smickles: mpex is not down
smickles: use one of the proxies
thestringpuller: i know I was just trolling
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [-]
smickles: heh, i have excellent log-reading skills
error4733: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.94000, Best ask: 47.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 47.00000, 24 hour volume: 97426.47255291, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.00000, 24 hour vwap: 43.18923
Bugpowdrr: $47.50
unbalanced: !ticker mpex
assbot: I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.
jurov: smickles, I take it as you reading 3 weeks of this chan logs?
unbalanced: !ticker mpex sdice
Bugpowdrr: Selling into this rally
smickles: jurov: I
smickles: er,
Bugpowdrr: this pace is stupid
smickles: jurov: i'm trying
assbot: You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
jurov: !ticker mpex s.dice
assbot: You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
unbalanced: Thanks jurov
unbalanced: !ticker mpex s.dice
jurov: assbot got some malarkey
Bowjob: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.01700, Best ask: 47.30807, Bid-ask spread: 0.29107, Last trade: 47.01700, 24 hour volume: 98301.12712212, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.22614
assbot: I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
Bowjob: lol
error4733: 50$ today, i put some champagne in the fridge
unbalanced: Where I can read logs of this channel so I ask 8% fewer stupid questions?
Bugpowdrr: parabolic top
Bowjob: heresy! off with your head!
Bugpowdrr: dude
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00414309 = 4.1431 BTC [+]
jurov: unbalanced, they aren't public afaik
smickles: unbalanced: you might have to log it yourself
Bugpowdrr: there is going to be a major pullback
unbalanced: ah thanks
Bugpowdrr: very very soon
Bowjob: lemme guess. you bought puts?
Bowjob: lol
Bugpowdrr: no
Bugpowdrr: not touching that shit
ThickAsThieves: there's a log somewhere online actually
ThickAsThieves: i stumbled on it at one point
Bowjob: there will be a major pullback..
Bowjob: upwards
Bowjob: :)
jurov: ThickAsThieves: complete? not just some pastebin?
ThickAsThieves: cant remember
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P310T] 100 @ 0.06498108 = 6.4981 BTC [-]
Chaang-Noi: 47 gone?
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.50001, Best ask: 47.58770, Bid-ask spread: 0.08769, Last trade: 47.49990, 24 hour volume: 98269.41406670, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.58770, 24 hour vwap: 43.23820
Chaang-Noi: man...
Chaang-Noi: insane
topace: !ticker h sdice
Bowjob: amazon partnered up with bitinstant
assbot: [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.37000000 / 0.4917805 / 0.59000000 (635 shares, 312.28061895 BTC), 7D: 0.37000000 / 0.58614358 / 0.68950000 (1695 shares, 993.51336796 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.63707085 / 0.76500000 (10881 shares, 6931.96789072 BTC)
Bowjob: fun stuff
Bugpowdrr: fastcash4bitcoins is out
Bugpowdrr: of cash
Chaang-Noi: not shocked, i got 13k out of them at 35$
Bowjob: it was bitinstant actually
Bowjob: http://www.fortmilltimes.com/2013/03/06/2538174/bitpay-integrates-bitcoin-with.html
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: gg
Bowjob: .. and i kinda feel bad for dice owners
jurov: meh.. tomorrow it may change
Bugpowdrr: s.DICE will bounce
blu3gr1ffon: yeah, trance #4 will be dumped
maximian: don't worry about us - a bounce back is coming
blu3gr1ffon: and it will bounce down
blu3gr1ffon: although I like divs
blu3gr1ffon: just can I get them out before SEC finds a way to prosecute. :P
Bowjob: mhm.. it looks like an opportunity to arb s.dice at havelock
Bowjob: buy at 0.37, sell at 0,.46
Bowjob: rinse and repeat
jurov: then i'll hide evoorhees in my apt.. and won't be alone i guess
Bugpowdrr: The last bubble top was a $13 rise in one day
Bugpowdrr: then crash of $22 in 3 days
Bowjob: you should sell the btcs now if they are gonna crash
Bowjob: its very hard to predict the top
Bowjob: I tried to give away 1 BTC to a gaming website
Bowjob: I just got laughed at
Bowjob: lol
Bowjob: gamefaqs..
Bowjob: bah
m0mchil: howdy... what's up with MPEX right now, DDoS or what?
Bugpowdrr: we are now up over $10 in the last 24 hours.
Bugpowdrr: mpex.coinbr.com
blu3gr1ffon: what are you trying to say Bugpowdrr ?
blu3gr1ffon: pAnIc!
Bugpowdrr: I'm trying to say that I'm am selling 25%
Bowjob: charities will accept more BTC.. there was a campaign last night about BTC
JWU42_: mpex down?
Bowjob: about $12000 was given away in BTC
Bugpowdrr: mpex.coinbr.com
Bowjob: to various charities, from $20-100 dollars ea
smickles: Bugpowdrr: so that was you buying puts at 31?
Bugpowdrr: uh?
Bugpowdrr: I don't remember
Bugpowdrr: I did
Bugpowdrr: a while ago
Bugpowdrr: but closed them
Bowjob: mpex seems down from here.
Bugpowdrr: at 28.5
Bowjob: does ddos count as a hack?
smickles: nop
smickles: not imo anyway
smickles: and it's not down, all the proxies are working
kakobrekla: does a nuke count as a slap on the wrist
smickles: so it's really just the one url which is down
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.51677, Best ask: 47.58770, Bid-ask spread: 0.07093, Last trade: 47.58770, 24 hour volume: 98083.19810957, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 47.75000, 24 hour vwap: 43.26076
imsaguy: is this where we panic?
ThickAsThieves: 48 soon
chmod755: imsaguy, no
imsaguy: seriously, one more person asking if mpex is down
chmod755: mpex has been hacked. hackers are dumping soon
imsaguy: I swear its a bunch of 12 y/o lemmings in bitcoin
chmod755: #fakenews
ZedsterX: someone change the subject onthe channel
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00414309 = 8.2862 BTC [+]
smickles: /topic mpex down, bitcoin to crash
imsaguy: why?
BitHub: mircea has been kidnapped
imsaguy: this is #bitcoin-assets, not ##mpex
chmod755: can i has $1,000,000 per BTC?
kakobrekla: imsaguy this is the shit.
jcpham: hi
smickles: chmod755: i have an interested buyer, but they want the usd first
jcpham: imsaguy are you buying all these coins
imsaguy: kakobrekla: urmom
imsaguy: jcpham, only some
chmod755: smickles, wat
pigeons: NO U
BitHub: why EskimoBob?
assbot: NO U
imsaguy: pigeons: did you find the i in team?
smickles: chmod755: nvm, bad joke
imsaguy: its hidden in the A hole
Bugpowdrr: imsaguy: My wife's girlfriends are buying no
Bugpowdrr: now
Bugpowdrr: Time to get out
jcpham: yes it is hidden in ther A hole!
imsaguy: Bugpowdrr: sounds for a kinky night
gribble: 1 BTC = 47.88000 U.S. dollars = 36.7375125 Euros
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 48
Bowjob: we are crashing
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 50
gribble: There are currently 464.05826 bitcoins offered at or under 48.0 USD, worth 22255.6760062 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds
gribble: There are currently 9879.8201 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 489143.829799 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0038 seconds
Bowjob: upwards
Chaang-Noi: i kinda think we need a correction, then i read more news and im wow... so i dont know
Bowjob: yes this is the correction
Bugpowdrr: Cameras ready, prepare to crash
Bowjob: Bug. when
Bowjob: gimme a number
Bowjob: >:)
Chaang-Noi: before i thought we might correct to 20, now im pretty sure we wont go much under 30 if we get tht far down... :/
Bugpowdrr: 49.88 is the top
Bugpowdrr: maybe
Chaang-Noi: ;;ticker
smickles: I say the top is 51.33
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.00000, Best ask: 48.34801, Bid-ask spread: 0.34801, Last trade: 48.34801, 24 hour volume: 99201.77387837, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 48.50000, 24 hour vwap: 43.35730
Chaang-Noi: wow
Bugpowdrr: I don't want to go over the FACTA limit :-P
Chaang-Noi: low 39, high 48.5
ThickAsThieves: no correction needed yet if we're on our way to 150 or such
Bowjob: Mentlegen, we are the new wealty elite
Bowjob: We need to focus on the bigger picture. Hookers and blow are gonna be so cheap for us.. real estate, ect
Bugpowdrr: $50k in foriegn account
Bowjob: How about we think of a way to help the world
Bugpowdrr: triggers facta issues
Bugpowdrr: $10k is FBAR reporting req
ThickAsThieves: we can help the world by telling them to buy more coins
Bowjob: it be hilarious if a small country's GDP would be like 10 BTC
Bugpowdrr: FATCA
Bugpowdrr: not FACTA sorry
Bugpowdrr: http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Corporations/InformationforUSTaxpayers
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00414309 = 1.6117 BTC [+]
Bugpowdrr: $4850
Bugpowdrr: $48.50
blu3gr1ffon: .001BTC is apparently not enough off TXN fee anymore, is it?
Bugpowdrr: Bunch of bubbleheads in here
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 200 @ 0.005025 = 1.005 BTC [-]
Bugpowdrr: LOL
doctor_pullfinge: Bugpowdrr - since when (at what price) did you go negative?
Bugpowdrr: it's not so much the price
Bugpowdrr: as the RATE of increase
Bowjob: how can btc gain global traction if the blocksize limit is so small
Bugpowdrr: I am long term bullish
Bugpowdrr: but this is CLASSIC parabolic blow off top
error4733: prove it
doctor_pullfinge: classic as in the DOW?
unbalanced: EskimoBob: doesn't s.dice pay a lot to miners through fees?
Bowjob: sell 100% of your coins
Bowjob: do itt
ThickAsThieves: nothing classic about bitcoin
unbalanced: Or am I ill informed?
Bugpowdrr: well
Bugpowdrr: I'm putting my money where my mouth is here
doctor_pullfinge: me too FAZ
doctor_pullfinge: and BTC
Bugpowdrr: FAZ has way too much slippage
ThickAsThieves: will you eat your hat next week when price is 65?
Bugpowdrr: I will be VERY HAPPY if its $65 next week
Bowjob: bug, buy puts as well
Bowjob: lol
Bugpowdrr: Puts prices are being set at 43.57 right now!
Bugpowdrr: ;;bc,24hprc
gribble: 43.47
Bugpowdrr: 43.47
Bugpowdrr: so NO don't buy puts
Bowjob: if I sleep.. ill wake up to $50
Bugpowdrr: calls make sense if you think it will stay here for more than 24 hours
Bowjob: jeez
gribble: 1 BTC = 48.49800 U.S. dollars = 37.2116934 Euros
unbalanced: EskimoBob: Ah so the fee rate won't adjust somehow and if someone wants to buy a coffee with BTC the fees will be bigger than the coffee?
unbalanced: Just trying to grok all this, my head is spinning.
doctor_pullfinge: unbalanced - buy low sell high - ignore everything else
imsaguy: ACtually, the way things are trigger, it costs more in fees to buy a coffee than it does to buy a house
imsaguy: triggered*
imsaguy: small tx amounts require larger fees
imsaguy: your $5 coffee will cost more in fees than a $50k car
Bugpowdrr: bitcoin is not for coffee
Chaang-Noi: that is why LTC :)
imsaguy: Bugpowdrr: but currency
Bugpowdrr: its for shipments of coffee
Bugpowdrr: its not good for POS transactions
imsaguy: but currency
Bowjob: someone crash LTC please, I wanna buy in
Bugpowdrr: unless there is another frontend on it
Bugpowdrr: 48.70
jurov: Chaang-Noi: did LTC resolve the blocksize/fees problem intelligently? if not, stfu
Chaang-Noi: jurov they can do a significant more than btc yeah
unbalanced: Anyone have theories as to why this runup is so fast then? Is it driven by MPEX futures, or trader manipulation, or is this how the Fed kills BTC: it just buys them all?
jcpham: i'm willing to sell one bitcoin today for 50 bucks
jcpham: but only one
jurov: plus, ltc is still at 0.6, thrashing the hdd like hell
jurov: *version 0.6
doctor_pullfinge: unbalanced - Ashton Kutcher invested last week.
Chaang-Noi: i think the coinlab stuff, the amazon bitpay stuff, anme cheap, mega.. everything....
doctor_pullfinge: he's bigtime
Chaang-Noi: its all massive good news...
pigeons: what is "the amazon bitpay stuff"?
Chaang-Noi: pigeons http://www.fortmilltimes.com/2013/03/06/2538174/bitpay-integrates-bitcoin-with.html
pigeons: how is coinlab good news
unbalanced: doctor_pullfinge: hence someone's reference to 12yo's investing above?
Bugpowdrr: its possibly good news
Bugpowdrr: possible disaster
Chaang-Noi: coinlabs making it so walls treat people can pour in 1 billion or whatever of other peoples money to "invest"
BitHub: how much is expected from ASICMINER per share this div?
pigeons: will people outside of us still have access to the coinlab usd market?
Bowjob: yawn
Bowjob: see you guys at 50
Bowjob: oyasumi.
Chaang-Noi: pigeons i dont know.. but we need more than mt gox/coin lab anyway, let wall street have that, we can do our own...
pigeons: holy shit fort mill times
pigeons: i lived there no one else uses bitcoin there
Chaang-Noi: :)
Bugpowdrr: yah bitpay news sounds big
Chaang-Noi: i guess no one knew about it but me?
smickles: EskimoBob: it's a little less centrally controlled than usd tho
imsaguy: but is it?
Chaang-Noi: eskimoob i heard your mugs are cool, can i see a photo?
imsaguy: a handful of people make the rules that the rest of the network blindly follows
smickles: yeah, clients have to approve a change too
smickles: and clients are individuals
imsaguy: most people run unmodified clients
imsaguy: they are isheep
imsaguy: lemmings
Bugpowdrr: 48.80
smickles: well, i did say "a little"
smickles: i mean, i can't really oppose changes to the USD
jcpham: someone at the fortmill times is a nerd
smickles: but I can participate in a hard fork if things go sour
imsaguy: you could use euros
jcpham: hi smickles
Chaang-Noi: that is pretty big ass news.. how did they only have it?
jcpham: i need an accountant
jcpham: specificalyy an estate accountant
smickles: I have an accounting service
Chaang-Noi: eskimobob link to photos of your mugs? still ahve more to sell?
jcpham: i have a 24k check i want to keep
jcpham: and not deposit in abank
jcpham: how do i keep it for myself
jcpham: and not pay any to the government
smickles: jcpham: sounds like you want a lawyer first
jcpham: fudge
jcpham: the check is made out to my dead grandmother's estate
smickles: as an accountant in 'merica, i can't give legal advice
jcpham: you can't help me launder it?
Chaang-Noi: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitpay-integrates-bitcoin-with-fulfillment-by-amazoncom-2013-03-06
jcpham: that was both rhetorical and a joke
imsaguy: jcpham: who's the executor?
jcpham: me
smickles: jcpham: if you are trying to launder money, why not endorse the check to someone for bitcoins
Chaang-Noi: BitPay's integration with Amazon currently works with WordPress.com, the world's most popular web publishing software, and WooCommerce, a comprehensive eCommerce platform for WordPress.
smickles: send the coins through some mixers, and then buy wooden Austin,TX farmers market coins with the bitcoins
doctor_pullfinge: jcpham - USD cash way better for laundering
smickles: it's a fool-proof plan
jcpham: channel full of criminals
jcpham: i knew it
Chaang-Noi: :)
Chaang-Noi: asicminer pay out already, i need sleep:)
unbalanced: EskimoBob: re: mpex has nothing to do with this, I didn't mean mpex's site issue today, I just meant does trading futures/options on mpex lead to more (less?) volatility in BTC?
imsaguy: asicminer doesn't pay until Thursday
imsaguy: its only Wednesday
imsaguy: derp
Chaang-Noi: op says wednesday....
imsaguy: Wednesday is 24 hours long
Chaang-Noi: he never said he was going to change it... derp
Ukto: there was a test payment earlier
imsaguy: not everyone is awake on your timezone
Chaang-Noi: wednesday in china is almost up...
Ukto: its 9:42 in the us tho
Ukto: 14ish hours until its fully gone
Bugpowdrr: So were to set the bids for the crash?
Bugpowdrr: $36?
Chaang-Noi: 36 seems fair
imsaguy: and now the thread has 300 people all saying they got 1 satoshi/share
imsaguy: lemmings!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [+]
Chaang-Noi: if friedcat wants to pay on thursdays thats cool, but he should tell us:)
imsaguy: and you're right, the last payment was 4 hours ago last week
imsaguy: but considering not all the test payments have confirmed yet
imsaguy: I doubt he'll send the full amount
Chaang-Noi: lol
Chaang-Noi: he did not wait last time
imsaguy: yes he did
Chaang-Noi: he cant wait, somepeople wont ever confirm
imsaguy: they ere 5 hours apart
Chaang-Noi: 49!
imsaguy: confirmed by the blockchain twit
imsaguy: not by some lemming on the forum
Chaang-Noi: he waited some time, he did not wait for 100% of people to confirm
smickles: < imsaguy> Wednesday is 24 hours long << or 28, depending on how you count timezones
imsaguy: I didn't say he waited for people to confirm
imsaguy: I said he waited for the blockchain to confirm
Chaang-Noi: okay, im multi tasking, calm down
imsaguy: ok twit
Chaang-Noi: classy...
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 49
gribble: There are currently 420.09147 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 20573.7459579 USD in total. | Data vintage: 93.0439 seconds
Bowjob: were rich
Chaang-Noi: i haz 5 btc! fuck yeah!
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.90000, Best ask: 48.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 48.90000, 24 hour volume: 98725.47056383, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.00000, 24 hour vwap: 43.52904
blu3gr1ffon: ;;goxlag
gribble: 176.105766 seconds
Chaang-Noi: 49.1
doctor_pullfinge: drink!
doctor_pullfinge: where's apex anyone have news on site being down?
doctor_pullfinge: mpex
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 50
gribble: There are currently 8385.6763 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 416077.619858 USD in total. | Data vintage: 71.0702 seconds
smickles: doctor_pullfinge: weren't you here for that discussion?
doctor_pullfinge: I was not - not looking for a book, just has mp acknowledged anything
smickles: it's either that mircea's sex dungeon prisoners finally revolted, or use mpex.coinbr.com while mpex.co is down
smickles: mpex.coinbr.com is one of many proxies to the mpex backend, and since all you send is encrypted, it doesn't matter that you are sending info thru a third party
Chaang-Noi: Most Online Today: 1541. Most Online Ever: 3809 we have a long way to go :)
doctor_pullfinge: so, mp is sleeping. I'm not looking to make a trade, just worried about another pirate40 situation.
blu3gr1ffon: you should be, now'd be a good time to disappear.
blu3gr1ffon: but he has no need to.
imsaguy: smickles: good point (tz)
doctor_pullfinge: is coiner able to send trades through to the backend? I have a seat on the back end and STAT don't works
smickles: blu3gr1ffon: thing is, as long as the traders keep s.mpoe worth more than he would get by running with the money, he has a financial interest to stay
doctor_pullfinge: coinbr
Chaang-Noi: ;;asks 49.999
gribble: There are currently 6264.6484 bitcoins offered at or under 49.999 USD, worth 310249.908414 USD in total. | Data vintage: 72.1208 seconds
BitHub: did anyone see his post recently about thinking of retirement?
BitHub: eeeo
smickles: doctor_pullfinge: my stats are working tru mpex.coinbr.com
smickles: *thru
doctor_pullfinge: smickles - thanks - I feel better. Back to worrying about why s.dice is tanking.
Chaang-Noi: http://blockchain.info/ last two blocks... ooopsss
smickles: and what do you mean 'a seat on the backend', if you have a connection to the backend which isn't a proxy, why are you worried about the other proxies?
BitHub: people sick of s.dice?
BitHub: div was smaller
doctor_pullfinge: I paid the 30 btc for a seat directly on mpex. coin.br is a passthrough, so may be cacheing the info.
Ukto: i bought my sdice at or below 0.0044
smickles: doctor_pullfinge: i think you are a little confused here
Ukto: so im not that worried about it yet
doctor_pullfinge: I think the div was bigger in terms of USD, but mainly I think people spend x% of their USD based paycheck on s.dice. So, BTC dividend amount goes down
doctor_pullfinge: when price of btc goes up
smickles: coinbr is a broker (passthru, whatever) mpex.coinbr.com is a proxy to the backend system which is mpex
Ukto: besides, JAH is a better deal atm. daily divs at 10% or something, plus compounded earnings from reinvestment
BitHub: yeah the jah shares are crazy Ukto
smickles: you can send a STATJSON or whatever you want through that proxy
BitHub: seems to be better than ASICMINER atm
smickles: as if you sent it to mpex.co
doctor_pullfinge: thanks smickles. you cleared it up for me
smickles: glad to help :)
kakobrekla: JAH got asics or what
Ukto: i think by 30 days of jah its like a 15%+ monthly profit
BitHub: yeah he got asicminer shares
kakobrekla: a
Ukto: well worth over the .3
ThickAsThieves: random off-topic idea, skype and facebook should show squiggly underlines on mispelled words, could teach the masses so easily
BitHub: that's why div so good
smickles: ThickAsThieves: that's more of an OS issue, isn't it?
smickles: ThickAsThieves: I mean, nearly all text input fields on my compy do spelling correction
ThickAsThieves: facebook does?
ThickAsThieves: skype does?
ThickAsThieves: oh,
ThickAsThieves: i mean on the output
Ukto: btw, 6,345 asicminer shares confirmed by fridcat on G.ASICMINER-PT now
ThickAsThieves: so everyone can see
jurov: doctor_pullfinge, since pgp is used,coinbr has no way to tamper with your orders nor replies
Chaang-Noi: 6k wow
Ukto: thats just the confirmed
jurov: and as for caching, make sure to check signature date so it's aways different
Ukto: not including alot more pending in transit
jurov: for example
BitHub: yeah just recently
BitHub: really boring
Ukto: you dont play it for fun
Ukto: you play it for odds
doctor_pullfinge: I just went to coinbr and don't see any "last update" information. So I still think that could just be the last time that mpex was up.
error4733: 1.9 edge is nothing
error4733: so it's good for a gambler to pay there
Chaang-Noi: ceasssh
error4733: even if it's boring
smickles: coinbr != mpex.coinbr
blu3gr1ffon: I'm sending larger txn fees in the future.
BitHub: i might sell off some dice and buy up some jah instead
smickles: EskimoBob: how long of a history?
blu3gr1ffon: what's a good fee these days for sub 10 minute 6 confirmations?
BitHub: increase teh divs
jurov: doctor_pullfinge, since mpex didn't issue any statement, we don't have anything for an update
smickles: EskimoBob: i don't think anyone who is recording that info has mad it public
jurov: coinbr just runs the proxy alongside our broker interface
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.71000, Best ask: 48.71350, Bid-ask spread: 0.00350, Last trade: 48.71000, 24 hour volume: 98576.32628072, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.71889
error4733: in fact is not hacked, you can make order
Bugpowdrr: ;;goxlag
gribble: 353.26605 seconds
doctor_pullfinge: jurov - is the mpex back end down and mp not around?
smickles: http://imgur.com/JHhGmR0
smickles: what mpex looks like to me currently
jurov: doctor_pullfinge i don't know anything about mp... except he does have irc client opened, that's a good sign perhaps
smickles: (well, moments ago, anyway)
Bugpowdrr: getting goxxed
Bugpowdrr: order pending for 5 minutes
Ukto: ;;goxlag
gribble: 342.802364 seconds
doctor_pullfinge: but that's a pass-through page that might be cached from last night.
Ukto: not that bad :P
doctor_pullfinge: I agree this is not freak out time. I'm trying to understand what this mpex.coinbr.com thing really is.
smickles: doctor_pullfinge: not the thing that I screenshotted
jurov: doctor_pullfinge, scroll back to last trade by assbot, compare to the site
Ukto: Bugpowdrr: wait another 5 min, see if it goes through
Ukto: :P
blu3gr1ffon: that goxlag is thick
Diablo-D3: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.58643, Best ask: 48.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11357, Last trade: 48.90000, 24 hour volume: 97948.57311533, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.75867
smickles: doctor_pullfinge: it is pretty much a replication of mpex.co
Ukto: only over 5min
Diablo-D3: lol.
jurov: doctor_pullfinge it's a proxy that we sewt up after last ddos
smickles: the mpex frontend
smickles: and there are other proxies too
thestringpuller: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.58643, Best ask: 48.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.11357, Last trade: 48.70000, 24 hour volume: 97945.57336925, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.75887
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^OIX
thestringpuller: >:(
smickles: and "proxy" does not equal "passthrough"
assbot: I prepared your canoe with cedar boughs.
thestringpuller: ;;market sell 10000
gribble: A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 453945.1459 USD and would take the last price down to 43.3310 USD, resulting in an average price of 45.3945 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 106.9176 seconds
Ukto: on CNN http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/06/technology/innovation/bitcoin/
thestringpuller: ;;market sell 100000
smickles: thestringpuller: 7day OIX :
smickles: 47.45 (50.15 / 29.08)
smickles: 13`996.17 (87.2 / 12.8)
gribble: A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 2998627.3527 USD and would take the last price down to 16.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 29.9863 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0098 seconds
thestringpuller: ;;market sell 1000000
gribble: A market order to sell 1000000 bitcoins right now would net 4312499.9219 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 4.3125 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 23.1310 seconds
Bugpowdrr: still pending
gribble: 1 BTC = 48.71000 U.S. dollars = 37.3743574 Euros
Bugpowdrr: fuck it
Bugpowdrr: whatever
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.45 = 2.7 BTC [+]
Ukto: cnn will drag in more bidders
smickles: cnn?
smickles: oooh
smickles: why is this cyber currency trading at an all time high?
smickles: pleas tell me steve hargreaves
jurov: doing test buy order for 123 S.DICE...
Bugpowdrr: ask is up!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 123 @ 0.0045 = 0.5535 BTC [+]
jurov: so, all is working except mpex.co website
error4733: smiclkles, you have to finish your taxreturn ?
smickles: jurov: but will doctor_pullfingr believe that assbot gets data from a reliable source?
jurov: smickles, doctor_pullfingr should pull fingers out of his ass and try it himself
doctor_pullfingr: doctor_pullfingr just needs a timestamp not a big deal. I can see the site, but assbot only shows HAVELOCK trades.
jurov: pardon the pun
jurov: doctor_pullfingr so you did a mpex trade like i just did and assbot did not show it?
jurov: nor http://mpex.coinbr.com/?mpsic=<asset> did?
jurov: it shows most recent trade in title
smickles: i saw assbot show it
smickles: 16:14 <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.DICE] 123 @ 0.0045 = 0.5535 BTC [+]
smickles: which came shortly after "16:14 < jurov> doing test buy order for 123 S.DICE..."
doctor_pullfingr: sorry jurov - I see the assbot trade and the timestamp. I'll shut my mouth now and get to work. Fluorescent lighting awaits.
jurov: no problem ;)
Bugpowdrr: this is the top
doctor_pullfingr: again?
jcpham: "The U.S. dollar is an obvious Ponzi scheme," said Thomas, who thinks the U.S. government has too much debt to raise interest rates high enough to defend the dollar if there were ever a run on it. With Bitcoin, "you feel like you're in control of your money."
Bugpowdrr: darn
Bugpowdrr: gox was to sow
jcpham: last paragraph of that CNN article wins
Bugpowdrr: slow
smickles: jcpham: i was just about to quote that too
jcpham: http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/06/technology/innovation/bitcoin/
jcpham: it's nice
jcpham: to see it so bluntly
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
gribble: 310.220931 seconds
Bugpowdrr: god damn
Bugpowdrr: missed the top
deadweasel: me too
Bugpowdrr: too slow to change the order now
smickles: Bugpowdrr: at least they arn't running a CS server
Bugpowdrr: they are running a site that is trading $5MM in currency a day
deadweasel: srsly, get the servers together, have peak resources
deadweasel: this is stupid
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.00070427 = 8.6273 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1326 @ 0.0007105 = 0.9421 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: that cnn article is a little retarded
ThickAsThieves: "Because the number of transactions and overall value of coins in circulation is relatively low, the currency is quite volatile -- it went from under $1 to over $28, then back to $7 in 2011 alone."
ThickAsThieves: one event means volatility in 2013?
Bugpowdrr: tanking
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.35100, Best ask: 48.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.64900, Last trade: 47.35100, 24 hour volume: 97534.97841476, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.87966
Bugpowdrr: ;;goxlag
gribble: 690.899964 seconds
ThickAsThieves: ugh
Bugpowdrr: prepare for tankage
deadweasel: dafuq 45 minutes only at 5 confirmations, with .005 fee
smickles: deadweasel: the fee will only affect when it gets conf 1
Bugpowdrr: when those confirmations go thru, price is gonna drop
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 189 @ 0.0045 = 0.8505 BTC [+]
Bugpowdrr: why did I sell at 48 insteady of 47.99? why
deadweasel: smickles: I did not know that.
deadweasel: smickles: thank you
imsaguy: ThickAsThieves: the example is a bad analogy, sure
imsaguy: give it time, there will be another tanking
Bugpowdrr: yesssss
Bugpowdrr: getting filled
imsaguy: how much of the tx volume today is the same coins being sent over and over?
jurov: "Mt. Gox found its operations hindered by its lack of proximity to the tech sector." lol now that's an excuse
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00072389 = 1.8821 BTC [+]
imsaguy: mtgox was a hackjob originally trading magic cards
imsaguy: they always leave that part out
deadweasel: Magix; The Gatherings, online exchange
deadweasel: I fireballed your leviathan
gribble: 1 BTC = 47.75000 U.S. dollars = 36.6377657 Euros
jurov: i should ask mp about his "proximity to the tech sector"
jurov: or evoorhees
jurov: or eskimobob lmao
imsaguy: I'm sure mp is fairly proximal to the tech 'sector' right now ;)
mircea_popescu: hi all.
mircea_popescu: if you're having trouble loading trilema, please flush your dns.
mjr_: yay
mircea_popescu: and otherwise, mpex,co is being ddosed by someone too stupid to know that doesn't work.
ZedsterX: i never load it no problem
mircea_popescu: use the various proxies, such as
ZedsterX: :)
error4733: hi mp
smickles: damn, i thought your sexdungeon revolted
mod6_: smickles!
smickles: mod6: hiya, sorry for being away
smickles: hug? \o/
imsaguy: smickles: \0/
smickles: aww
mircea_popescu: mpex.5gbfree.com mpex.host56.com mpex.coinbr.com etc
mircea_popescu: whoa smickles in da house ?!
mircea_popescu: when did you get out ?
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: load up a free instance of amazon?
Guest60737: smickles: glad u stopped back in. :)
smickles: mircea_popescu: earlier today
mircea_popescu: imsaguy yeah, i got a few of those too
kakobrekla: 5gbfree dont work
Guest60737: bah.. its "mod6" -- gotta reauth
imsaguy: Guest60737: you know about /ns release, right?
smickles: lol, EskimoBob, you troll https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1590968#msg1590968
mircea_popescu: smickles so is it a boy or a girl ?
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: tabloids say girl ;)
smickles: mircea_popescu: heh, well, it's a boy, and he is expected to come mid may
deadweasel: it's a bitbaby
Bugpowdrr: FILLED
mircea_popescu: o
mircea_popescu: i thought you got in early.
Guest60737: imsaguy: ya. working on those things now with ns & grib
smickles: ;;seen anduck
gribble: anduck was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 20 hours, 24 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Anduck> uhh
imsaguy: oh, anduck said I was supposed to hold his coins
mircea_popescu: also http://pastebin.com/xfSBf759
mircea_popescu: for future records
imsaguy: he said I could have them forever
Chaang-Noi: nothing from asicminer yet, hmm
imsaguy: scammertag!
Chaang-Noi: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 7 minutes and 46 seconds
jcpham: for the bears: http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/7761841-patrik-korda/1616371-bitcoin-bubble-2-0
imsaguy: their test tx still hasn't confirmed
Chaang-Noi: yeah, why would they need to wait though?
imsaguy: just goes to show that sending a bunch of microdust without paying a respectible fee is silly
smickles: imsaguy: lol
imsaguy: estimated btc transacted: .00023055
smickles: ;;later tell anduck pm or email me when you get a chance
gribble: The operation succeeded.
imsaguy: fees: .0005
imsaguy: asicminer full payment just hit
Chaang-Noi: just got it
mod6: (08:48) < smickles> mircea_popescu: heh, well, it's a boy, and he is expected to come mid may << Nice! It's getting closer. :]
DeaDTerra: yay
DeaDTerra: dividend received
imsaguy: less than the first
imsaguy: as expected :)
Chaang-Noi: i bought more shares so got more:)
Chaang-Noi: im going to try and guess and see their mining rate...
imsaguy: that doesn't make the dividend per share go up
smickles: mod6: indeed, and the first one is starting to walk around
mircea_popescu: also everyone's deposits/withdrawals flushed.
mod6: smickles: thats awesome man. :)
jcpham: The myopic are extrapolating the price trend of the past three months, which they deem is normal, and in so doing they exacerbate it to the upside, thus attracting even greater fools. The inflection point will come when the continuity of bullish thought is broken, which could be anywhere between $49/bc to $69/bc. One thing is for sure, the amount of suckers left who are willing to jump on the moving and ever accelerating train is drawing thin,
jcpham: and so are their pockets.
mircea_popescu: jcpham ftr the oix totally called the 50.
Chaang-Noi: 0.01916298 per share
imsaguy: jcpham: where'd you copy and paste that from?
ThickAsThieves: didnt i say top was 69?
imsaguy: so now they're up to .06/share
jcpham: http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/7761841-patrik-korda/1616371-bitcoin-bubble-2-0
Chaang-Noi: 3832.596 paid out...
jcpham: LONG READ
jcpham: bring a lunch
imsaguy: once it hits .1, divs will halve
jurov: mircea_popescu dunno where would the oix be if calls were available throughout
mircea_popescu: jurov thing is a certain strike can't push it past a certain level
Chaang-Noi: okay so they ahve about 15% of the weekly coins...
mircea_popescu: you know what i mean ?
Chaang-Noi: 36th x .15 = about 5.4
Chaang-Noi: hmmm... about expected, i guess tehy are not solomining
Chaang-Noi: imsaguy less tha halve, 20% or so will aslo be collected for new hardware
Chaang-Noi: so we will get like 40% of what they mine...
Chaang-Noi: imsaguy how did you get .06 per share?
Chaang-Noi: buying more asics means more coins... and a company worth more.. cant just look at dividends
imsaguy: the first dividend was like .03x
Chaang-Noi: PsycoticBoy if we take the 40% of todays dividends and x 52 we get .416 pretty damn solid
smickles: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin%2C%20mainstream&cmpt=q
imsaguy: the second was .02x
imsaguy: I rounded
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
Chaang-Noi: ok
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.61000, Best ask: 47.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 47.77175, 24 hour volume: 99687.93083192, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 43.99952
smickles: look, there is a corelated rise of "mainstream" with the recent rise in "bitcoin"
Chaang-Noi: i think first was .2x and second .19x
Chaang-Noi: i see this stock being worth .5 easy, and much much more if bfl fail
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.21046328 = 210.4633 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=bitcoin&date=today%201-m&cmpt=q lol at related terms
mod6: lol "bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin"
mircea_popescu: so how's the drama today ?
Chaang-Noi: drama?
ThickAsThieves: it's waiting
jurov: it's about to fall any minute purportedly
mircea_popescu: a ok
Chaang-Noi: what are you guys talking about?
mod6: mp: thanks for getting http://mpex.5gbfree.com/ up so quick
mircea_popescu: Mar 06 07:58:51 <mircea_popescu> o hey, it occurs to me, this is the right time to get hacked right ?
mircea_popescu: le lol.
mircea_popescu: mod6 it was up from before tho
jurov: oh and how is your proximity to the tech sector today, mircea?
mircea_popescu: i did nuffin
mod6: ah! didn't know that
mircea_popescu: mod6 was a ddos back in jan, set up the entire proxy structure then. that's when jurov made his, i think smickles has one too
mircea_popescu: buncha them
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
gribble: 75.495775 seconds
mircea_popescu: jurov my who ?!
jcpham: apparently i pasted a one liner in -otc and stopped someone from dropping 50k from a BoA from their cell phone on bitcoin
mircea_popescu: o rly ? cool.
jurov: mircea_popescu: it's the only thing i remembered from http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/06/technology/innovation/bitcoin/
mircea_popescu: im just grepping this log for "hacked" atm, it's loads of fun
jcpham: "Rising asset prices create euphoria, and euphoria significantly drops the IQ of the participants."
mircea_popescu: liek Mar 06 16:13:53 <pigeons> i can't get the only service that has never been hacked to come up
mircea_popescu: jcpham i dunno about that. euphoria makes me sharper.
jcpham: i'm pretty sharp
jcpham: pissed off or happy
mircea_popescu: you're like a cheddar
Chilca: It's mpex working?
ThickAsThieves: i wouldnt call it work
ThickAsThieves: :)
mircea_popescu: Chilca it's always been working!
Chilca: mircea_popescu: maybe is something wrong in my notebook
imsaguy: mircea_popescu: is mpex down?
mircea_popescu: Chilca there's a pretty dumb ddos going on the main domain. but you can use any of the proxies jsut fine
mircea_popescu: imsaguy no.
notimsaguy: mircea_popescu: is mpex down?
jurov: no sorry, the proximity gem was here: http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/06/technology/innovation/bitcoin/
mircea_popescu: lol wtf
smickles: guys, I think mpex is down
imsaguy: Can anyone get to mpex?
jurov: i can
Chilca: I can't
imsaguy: I heard mpex got hacked
ThickAsThieves: "The U.S. dollar is an obvious Ponzi scheme," said Thomas, who thinks the U.S. government has too much debt to raise interest rates high enough to defend the dollar if there were ever a run on it. With Bitcoin, "you feel like you're in control of your money."
imsaguy: the cia probably did it
ThickAsThieves: ...
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.21064341 = 210.6434 BTC [+]
Chilca: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 60] Operation timed out>
mircea_popescu: ya totally down
mircea_popescu: also trading.
mircea_popescu: SINGULARITY
smickles: I just knew the sec would get to mpex sooner or later
assbot: imma gonna start banning
jurov: oh and i almost convinced a dude that coinbr bought mpex
mircea_popescu: Chilca : use something like mpex.coinbr.com to connect
Chaang-Noi: assbot :)
ThickAsThieves: why is assbot angry?
smickles: jurov: you could've too
ThickAsThieves: caps?
mircea_popescu: jurov lol
mircea_popescu: watch the guy post scamtag request on you now.
Chilca: That's work
Chilca: and with ./mpex.py ?
jurov: edit the url in source
mircea_popescu: yeah edit the url to a proxy
mircea_popescu: then edit it back
imsaguy: assbot: did you know that mpex is down?
mircea_popescu: and forth
mircea_popescu: and faster
mircea_popescu: slower
mircea_popescu: right there
mircea_popescu: aaahhh
kakobrekla: caffeine or cocaine?
jurov: you know i was yest in timisoara and bough some fine asics in budapest en route, that announcement raised some eyebrows, too
mircea_popescu: this before or after you fucked that giraffe ?
jurov: can't remember zactly
mod6: jurov must be tall to fuck a giraffe, or he likes to fuck on a ladder. ;)
mircea_popescu: guy got totally plastered, hitched it with the zoo inventory.
mircea_popescu: mod6 when you're hung like a snake gotta do what you gotta do.
mod6: hahah
mircea_popescu: neck has to be long enough or else you dip your tip in acid.
Chilca: Thanks
mod6: ah! i'll have to keep that in mind.
mod6: lol
jurov: yea, without mircea's expert advice, that would've ended badly
mircea_popescu: my host guy is like "you know we nullrooted some stuff"
mircea_popescu: i'm like "yea, whatever"
mircea_popescu: he's like "o.o"
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 10 @ 0.00062096 = 0.0062 BTC
mod6: heh, i nullroute stuff all the time
mod6: abuse? to the blackhole you go!
mircea_popescu: mod6 how often do customers go "mmkay"
jurov: like "nono no nullroutes, i have important businss in nigeria"
Chaang-Noi: night guy
Chaang-Noi: guys*
iz: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.35500, Best ask: 47.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14500, Last trade: 47.50000, 24 hour volume: 101716.35730182, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.12712
ThickAsThieves: ;;goxlag
gribble: 91.606923 seconds
mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
gribble: Time since last block: 12 minutes and 53 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00072389 = 14.9845 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1000 @ 0.21125709 = 211.2571 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;when does bfl deliver
gribble: Error: "when" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: right-o
mircea_popescu: btw, wtf is with the longass blocks
ThickAsThieves: scam detected
Chaang-Noi: mp 4 to 6 weeks
jurov: !when does bfl deliver
jurov: watch out
assbot: fuck you.
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi i think that's when inaba gets his period
jurov: right on the money
mircea_popescu: i was asking more about the rigs
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.65 = 19.5 BTC [-]
mod6: hmm
Chaang-Noi: <assbot> [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.65 = 19.5 BTC [-] nice :)
Rick_: When can i use mpex.co?
smickles: mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/9fBZl3m.png
smickles: Rick_: as soon as you can type mpex.coinbr.com
smickles: Rick_: full story and other proxies at http://pastebin.com/xfSBf759
mod6: (09:20) < mircea_popescu> mod6 how often do customers go "mmkay" << haha, 0. the one guy I do a actual website for doesn't give a shit since he cuts down trees for a living lol
Rick_: cant open http://pastebin.com/xfSBf759 eaither
mod6: im like, "russian hackers are fucking with the site so i tossed their packets in the bitbucket..." "huh? whats that?" ".... don't worry it's all good."
Rick_: but i am using coinbr now
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Rick_: now i can see http://pastebin.com/xfSBf759,reading it
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
gribble: 128.598356 seconds
mircea_popescu: mod6 anyway, if you can't get to trilema, it's here http://pastebin.com/vRzjux7e
mircea_popescu: all tghe proxy shit was set-up back in jan when somebody tried to ddos mpex
mircea_popescu: smickles so what've you been up to ? did you get ddosed or something ?
mircea_popescu: Rick_ hey, actually, the full pastebin is http://pastebin.com/vRzjux7e
mircea_popescu: for some reason the other one got truncated.
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: Stupid fucking white man.
mircea_popescu: ahaha he's proxy unaware huh
maximian: looks like the worst of the s.dice selloff is over
deadweasel: think the price will drop anymore today?
jurov: mircea_popescu but it did work till 2 hours ago
jurov: assbot
mircea_popescu: jurov it gets the pushes
mircea_popescu: but it doesn;t know how to get the stats
jurov: ic
assbot: yea im stupid like dat.
jurov: ;;slap assbot
assbot: watch out there. i might be dumb but i have muscle. does that erause you?
mircea_popescu: erause ?!
jurov: ;;facepalm
gribble: Error: "facepalm" is not a valid command.
assbot: arouse, mirce, arouse. was ment for jurov.
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
gribble: 152.106485 seconds
keith_hanson: christ.
jurov: ^ it's not over
keith_hanson: have they mentioned any reasons for all the lag?
mircea_popescu: <unbalanced> Anyone have theories as to why this runup is so fast then? Is it driven by MPEX futures, or trader manipulation, or is this how the Fed kills BTC: it just buys them all? << historically mpex futures tend to quench rallies (and probably drops too) rather than amplify them
deadweasel: shitty sysadmins
kakobrekla: beatles yesterdays goes through my mind when you do ;;goxlag
mircea_popescu: the reason is that bitcoin which'd normally hit the exchanges pushing the price gets sterilized on derivative trades on mpex
jurov: ;;asks 49
gribble: There are currently 3655.519 bitcoins offered at or under 49.0 USD, worth 177792.647437 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00072389 = 3.4747 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.23000, Best ask: 47.40500, Bid-ask spread: 0.17500, Last trade: 47.40500, 24 hour volume: 106149.33438063, 24 hour low: 39.00000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.27059
mircea_popescu: so eerie
mircea_popescu: "Karen Webster ‏@karenmpd
mircea_popescu: Regulation can stand in the way of innovation in the interest of protecting consumers. What do entrepreneurs do?"
mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu ‏@Mircea_Popescu
mircea_popescu: @karenmpd They move. Consumers don't get a say, that's what the definition of consumer implies : "stfu, swallow the menu, say ty".
mircea_popescu: i think it was about time twitter got a dose of mp.
ThickAsThieves: wtb faster bitcoin confirmations
mircea_popescu: primeasic sells 1000 fast confirmations for 0.5 btc
mircea_popescu: 5000 for 2 btc
mircea_popescu: 10000 for 3 btc
ThickAsThieves: can kako pick them up for me?
mircea_popescu: only if you wait till he's not slept for a day first.
unbalanced: mircea_popescu, thanks for the reply above. Could someone rich in cash & BTC, holding BTC futures/options at say a $50 strike could have an incentive to buy up BTC to that level to not lose on the option trade?
unbalanced: Or am I a) paranoid? b) ill-informed? c) both? Probably c)
jurov: unbalanced, there were tries , but mostly not successful afaik
Namworld: oh, I missed mircea's reply. What's up with MPEx?
ThickAsThieves: ddos
assbot: [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0073 = 0.073 BTC [+]
unbalanced: Namworld: see http://mpex.coinbr.com
Namworld: ah, an alternative frontend
jurov: not a frontend, just proxy
[\\\]: whatever happened to solidcoin?
Namworld: Still a scam?
jurov: [\\\]: you're digging it out of grave
[\\\]: oh, damn
[\\\]: I went to the website and the latest news is from January
[\\\]: 2012
mircea_popescu: unbalanced in theory this is possible. however this theory tends to blow up in practice. it's no different from any attempt to corner a market, and those have historically ended up poorly.
mircea_popescu: more importantly, the mpoe bot book is limited. you can't get much more than 20k or so notional exposure per strike
mircea_popescu: with a lot of finesse you could construct synthetic positions of maybe 100k, but not 1mn and over.
mircea_popescu: moreover because all trade settles in btc on mpex that defacto sterilizes some currency too
mircea_popescu: in short : i've put a lot of thinking into creating macrostability here, i obviously may have overlooked holes/been stupid/etc, but it won't be trivial in any case.
mod6: (10:04) < mircea_popescu> i think it was about time twitter got a dose of mp. << yes!
mircea_popescu: lol
jcpham: guerilla gardening: http://youtu.be/EzZzZ_qpZ4w
jcpham: ^ worth watching
unbalanced: mircea_popescu, jurov: thx for the replies
mod6: jcpham: oh man, <3 Del Taco
unbalanced: glad to know all is well in mpex-land... time to get back to work
jcpham: I manufacture my own reality
jcpham: i like this guy
mircea_popescu: ;;whowas unbalanced
gribble: Error: "whowas" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: ;;was unbalanced
gribble: Error: "was" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: someone should tell him about btc
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00469999 = 1.88 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: you dont need to grow food
kakobrekla: aka money
kakobrekla: you can just grow money straight up
mircea_popescu: so did s.dice get massacred because people thought mpex is gone ?
deadweasel: can't eat money
kakobrekla: cant encrypt food
deadweasel: fungal encryption
jcpham: dude this guys mind is primed for bitcoin
deadweasel: nobody would try to reverse that
kakobrekla: eating cas coins
deadweasel: cas coins would be hard to pass
deadweasel: and not very nutriional
jcpham: 7:15 t-shirt says "unkuck the world"
kakobrekla: so would be fungal encrypted food
jcpham: *unfuck
deadweasel: I just need to clean my fridge
kakobrekla: also planting that shit in the middle of the LA
kakobrekla: its not useful for eating
kakobrekla: so i dunno what that dude is on
jcpham: the man has got him down kakobrekla
kakobrekla: meh
jurov: mircea_popescu, no that happened yesterday. today dice it didn't move much
mod6: this guy is awesome
kakobrekla: awsome in a stupid way
mircea_popescu: jurov aha.
mod6: well, na. fuck the man, plant a garden. mine some bitcoins, etc.
jcpham: fuck tha man, plant a garden, mine bitcoins sounds like a tshirt i need
dub: friedcat did it again
mod6: jcpham: ya!
dub: sent 0.000000001/share then a div
dub: 0.1 satoshi
mod6: haha ya! "PLANT SOME SHIT!"
mod6: thats just great
mod6: america needs more people like this guy who are devoted to action
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 40 @ 0.00469999 = 0.188 BTC [+]
dub: im going aquaponics when I finally get a house
dub: grow FISH and PLANTS
mod6: jcpham: the UNFUCK THE WORLD t-shirt was pretty great too
mod6: i'd prolly wear it everyday if I had one
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4789366.42662 based on data since last change | 4948929.82503 based on data for last three days
dub: looks like om not the only one anyway https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=149750.msg1591216#msg1591216
ThickAsThieves: i have the same issue
ThickAsThieves: gave up and moved my wallet
dub: wat issue
ThickAsThieves: client issues
ThickAsThieves: i havent tried rescan yet
ThickAsThieves: send coin but transaction never updates
dub: is the txn confirmed?
ThickAsThieves: basically it does the transactions but displays incorrectly
dub: the asicminer div txn isnt
ThickAsThieves: if i recall correctly
ThickAsThieves: oh
ThickAsThieves: thats not confirmed
dub: so its normal to show up like that
ThickAsThieves: i wasnt referring to asicminer
ThickAsThieves: referring to someone suspecting there is an issue with desltop clienbt
dub: holy fuck
dub: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1590649#msg1590649
dub: ITS ALIVE
mod6: EB is like, "O if you move S.DICE I'll buy some!!! JUST KIDDING! LOL I'VE ALREADY BOUGHT HIGH AND SOLD LOW!"
dub: surpise, guy is ubertarded
mod6: haha he trolls hard
mircea_popescu: lol what ?
jcpham: aww man dank got scammer tagged
ThickAsThieves: http://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
jcpham: but he had a soul guarantee
ThickAsThieves: going up?
ThickAsThieves: yes, top floor plz
ThickAsThieves: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 224570 | Current Difficulty: 4367876.000842196 | Next Difficulty At Block: 225791 | Next Difficulty In: 1221 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 31 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4779207.20236 | Estimated Percent Change: 9.41719
chmod755: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 48.00000, Best ask: 48.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 48.05000, 24 hour volume: 104401.10769022, 24 hour low: 39.50000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.61632
mod6: eat your heart out bernakazi
mod6: EskimoBob: :)
mod6: MPOE-PR stepped on your nuts huh?
mod6: i dunno, why all the hard trolls & h8tred?
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/the-delusion-of-infrastructure/
mircea_popescu: the latest installment in mpanthropology.
mod6: EskimoBob: *shrug*
ZedsterX: does bitpay being on amazon make us legit now?
deadweasel: I'm pretty sure you are MP, being your own troll
mod6: dutifully moved right along to the next helping of predigested yet certifiedly safe circlejerk product. << exactly.
mircea_popescu: deadweasel im who ?
chmod755|catfish: -0.002!
gribble: 1 BTC = 47.93000 U.S. dollars = 36.7758766 Euros
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00072389 = 4.6691 BTC [+]
Namworld: What's up with options?
mircea_popescu: now what sort of unanswerable question is that ?
Namworld: ah, nvm. I guess I was consistently refreshing right when options were not up.
Namworld: I refreshed twice and no options were showing up from the market bot.
mircea_popescu: ya there's ocasionally a momentary gap
deadweasel: i think it's broken. ;)
Namworld: your reasoning seems broken... time to get some S.DICE
deadweasel: you're right! buy moar!
ZedsterX: time not panic yet
mircea_popescu: deadweasel the valuation by last trade algo is prolly dubious
mircea_popescu: !ticker m s.dice
assbot: [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00300001 / 0.00452788 / 0.0052 (39220 shares, 177.58 BTC), 7D: 0.00300001 / 0.00577697 / 0.0063799 (549867 shares, 3,176.57 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00588503 / 0.007395 (6670790 shares, 39,257.82 BTC)
mircea_popescu: 30day avg prolly more reasonable.
mircea_popescu: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08954763 / 47.56142347 / 49.63791534 (no shares, 17,752.74 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
doctor_pullfingr: deaweasel - measure in USD make you feel a bit better
assbot: [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 3 @ 0.0639995 = 0.192 BTC [-]
deadweasel: yeah, I need to stop looking at bitfunder. I just want to watch things happen.
deadweasel: i like observing this thing. this, bitcoin, thing.
deadweasel: i'm addicted to bitcoins
TomServo: mircea_popescu: how often is the oix updated?
mircea_popescu: every time options sell pretty much
mod6: has any one else been eating popcorn and watching Krugman try to battle the guys on ZH?
mod6: not sure if its really him... but it's entertaining either way
mircea_popescu: not rly.
Bugpowder: EURO is $1.2999?!?
mircea_popescu: hard to tell which is the larger idiot, the zh borg or krugman
mircea_popescu: about there ya
ThickAsThieves: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 47.35000, Best ask: 47.45780, Bid-ask spread: 0.10780, Last trade: 47.35000, 24 hour volume: 105673.56321148, 24 hour low: 39.51020, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 44.82315
dub: new video of avalon trying to ship units
dub: http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/the-strange-beauty-of-the-chinese-politician-who-lost-his-shit-at-the-airport
mircea_popescu: lol
mod6: yeah, some of those guys on ZH are somewhat entertaining
mod6: there seems to be a real lack of brains when it comes to bitcoin on there though
deadweasel: I have seen no surplus in brains anywhere in bitcoin, except a few here and there.
deadweasel: bitcoin has been my financial baptism by fire. lucky I made money while learning
Lyspooner: this is not the normal channel welcome message
chmod755: Lyspooner, wat?
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner the scams there got moved to bitcoin-assets.com
Lyspooner: "channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? Please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp"
mircea_popescu: a, that's standard freenode stuff
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.4405 = 4.405 BTC [-]
Lyspooner: normally it's a list of all the sites that house bitcoin assets
Bugpowder: you mean the topic?
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93445.msg1591950#msg1591950 this is cute.
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
Lyspooner: bugpowder yeah
mircea_popescu: "Hi everyone!
mircea_popescu: Massage4BTC.com is now operational and lets anyone offer local massage services for BTC."
mircea_popescu: le lol.
mircea_popescu: "herpderp i learned sort-of webcoding over the summer so now i start a business where other people do the work. it's a platform."
chmod755: lmao
chmod755: mircea_popescu, wait...isn't that what mpex does?
chmod755: S.DICE makes the money - you get rich lol
mircea_popescu: haha not quite.
mircea_popescu: what've they traded since august, say 200k btc or so ? i've made 400 btc off that.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4205 = 1.2615 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.335 = 3.35 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.335 = 1.34 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.33317 = 3.3317 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.42 = 2.1 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.41 = 2.87 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.41 = 2.05 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 25 @ 0.65 = 16.25 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [-]
deadweasel: I was just wondering where I could find a massage for BTC?
deadweasel: is there like, an internet site for that?
mircea_popescu: the best massages are free
assbot: [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.33317 = 0.6663 BTC [-]
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 640 @ 0.22052312 = 141.1348 BTC [+]
jurov: !tciker m oix^
jurov: !ticker m oix^
assbot: Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
deadweasel: assbot is dead
jurov: amen
mircea_popescu: prefix not postfix
jurov: !ticker m oix^
assbot: The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire.
jurov: !ticker m ^oix
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08954763 / 47.63946252 / 49.7064472 (no shares, 17,893.87 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
jurov: deadweasel is dead
jurov: mpex.co is back online so all should work
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
deadweasel: isn't that nanotube's bot?
Bugpowder: tankage
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 46.00000, Best ask: 46.59790, Bid-ask spread: 0.59790, Last trade: 46.00000, 24 hour volume: 109849.30848531, 24 hour low: 39.79000, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.00791
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-]
jurov: deadweasel,no,gribble is nanotube's. assbot has borrowed intelligence from kakobrekla.
jurov: maybe muscles,too, dunno
deadweasel: jurov: ok, thx. they are both nice bots. even S&M assbot, but I do that in PMs now.
jurov: consider yourself lucky, i was rejected by assbot :/
deadweasel: tankage indeed, people must be market selling
deadweasel: but there are some hungry sponges out there too
jurov: i think today's bank wires and whatever went into bitcoins, tomorrow it may repeat
jurov: when fresh fiat arrives
jurov: bitcoin will eat it
Bugpowder: see u at $36.
deadweasel: ;;goxlag
gribble: 80.139706 seconds
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 45.27057, Best ask: 45.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.71943, Last trade: 45.99000, 24 hour volume: 111972.55000310, 24 hour low: 39.79001, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.02130
dub: BASIC-MINING what
Lyspooner: 80 seconds lag? is that normal?
Bugpowder: it wat 680sec a few hours ago
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 50 @ 0.65 = 32.5 BTC [-]
dub: yeah newsflash gox sux
assbot: [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0046 = 1.38 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: they're good at what they do
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.4 = 2.4 BTC [-]
leotreasure: asicmining divs are out
Ukto: yup
Ukto: as soon as confirms are done, DT will be paying on BF
DeaDTerra1: stil sitting on 0 confirms...
DeaDTerra1: comeone mining pools
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 62 @ 0.00549 = 0.3404 BTC [+]
Ukto: btw, G.ASICMER-PT now holders 1,020,273 confirmed ASICMINER shares
Ukto: er
Ukto: that wrong
Ukto: 11,032 shares
Ukto: stupid copy buffer
mircea_popescu: leotreasure how much ?
assbot: [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.65 = 1.95 BTC [-]
leotreasure: .01916298
Bugpowder: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.71051, Best ask: 45.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28949, Last trade: 45.00000, 24 hour volume: 114058.31082349, 24 hour low: 39.85750, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.04732
Ukto: the last was 0.02354460
Ukto: and it was for all earnings up to that point
Ukto: that means the last week picked up a lot of earnings
Ukto: next week should easily surpass it
mircea_popescu: going down !?
Ukto: btc or AM?
mircea_popescu: ah, what interval was the first for ?
mircea_popescu: am
Ukto: like 2~3 weeks?
mircea_popescu: ah i c
DeaDTerra1: HAHAH one million shares was a bit strong xD
Ukto: yeah
Ukto: I has sdice open
Ukto: and copied the wrong thing :P
jcpham: hey gais
Ukto: sup
jcpham: i sold some coins for $50 today
jcpham: ;;ticker
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.20000, Best ask: 44.71051, Bid-ask spread: 0.51051, Last trade: 45.00000, 24 hour volume: 114660.97979107, 24 hour low: 39.85750, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.05104
jcpham: how is that even acceptable or possible
mircea_popescu: bad deal.
mircea_popescu: you'll regret it later.
Bugpowder: I sold a nice chunk at 46-49
Bugpowder: I do not regret it now
jcpham: mircea_popescu: 5 coins...
jcpham: !
swhitt: i ;;ticker
swhitt: ;;ticker
jcpham: i sold 5 coins during the height of the day for shits and giggles
gribble: BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 44.20000, Best ask: 44.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 44.50000, 24 hour volume: 114844.81528356, 24 hour low: 39.85750, 24 hour high: 49.09900, 24 hour vwap: 45.05435
swhitt: i wish mtgoxlive would work better.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1592056#msg1592056
mircea_popescu: lol girl laying the smackdown
mircea_popescu: i can't believe forum idiots actually propose btctalk as a comparison for anything.
Lyspooner: "girl"
Lyspooner: try "me"
Bugpowder: anyone know EXACTLY how wash sale rules effect a long-term cap gain? As in, if I buy a stock for $5, sell it 8 months later for $10, rebuy for $9 the next day then sell again for $50 8 months after that.
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner why does her gender bother you so ?
jcpham: http://www.economicsofbitcoin.com/2013/03/re-bitcoin-bubble-20-by-patrik-korda.html
mircea_popescu: who is patrik-korda
Bugpowder: Is the $50 sale considered long-term or short term
Bugpowder: I know the $10 sale is short term, despite the wash sale repurchase.
jcpham: http://seekingalpha.com/instablog/7761841-patrik-korda/1616371-bitcoin-bubble-2-0
jcpham: ^ korda
mircea_popescu: jcpham ok, some idiot who came up with the brilliant idea that because the cost of making websites is small, the internet will never exist
mircea_popescu: because myspace profiles will compete each other into irrelevance
mircea_popescu: i am impressed. who spawns all these idiots ?
Bugpowder: http://apoplithorismosphobia.com/files/ex.pdf
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: spontaneous idiogeneration ?
mircea_popescu: Study Program: Liberal Arts
mircea_popescu: Field of Study: 3. 1. 6 Political Science
mircea_popescu: ok nm.
jurov: According to the Communist Manifesto, there were three major reasons why capitalism would come to a halt.
jurov: ^from abstract
mircea_popescu: one of them being that youthful cocks with milkstrings still atached will end up publishing on wanna-be "respectable" venues a la seeking alpha as if they were people.
mircea_popescu: basically, we're being trolled.
jurov: lol i never heard about this school.. prolly too many "higher education" schools around
jurov: in one 450-thousand city
mircea_popescu: every halfwit with a "liberal arts" degree in nothing specifically from Nowhere University is going to, on the mid term, publish a finite nonzero number of papers
mircea_popescu: consisting of nothing at all.
jurov: From a historical standpoint, major economic bubbles are a rare phenomenon. Unlike business cycles, which occur quite frequently and with great regularity, there have not been many bubbles throughout history.
jurov: first two sentences from the body text
mircea_popescu: i can't even write about this shit, it'd be doing it favours ;/
jurov: i cant even...
Lyspooner: scott sumner on bitcoin bubbles http://www.themoneyillusion.com/?p=19705&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Themoneyillusion+%28TheMoneyIllusion%29
BitHub: so...how much did asicminer share pay per share?
BitHub: 0.020 or something?
dub: .01916298
BitHub: cool
dub: they sent it anyway, hadn't confirmed last I looked
Diablo-D3: it confirmed
Diablo-D3: the share count tx didn't yet
Diablo-D3: oh wait, sorry, its only 4/6 atm
Diablo-D3: its partially confirmed =P
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner left him an oix.
Lyspooner: ?
mircea_popescu: link you posted.
Lyspooner: to what end? he doesn't care about bitcoin so much as he just wants people who cry "bubble!" to be held to certain standards
AndroUser512: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 4749889.19275 based on data since last change | 4913870.80684 based on data for last three days
jurov: i daresay marketmaking for difficulty is less risky than one for price
mircea_popescu: Lyspooner so i made a spurious comment on the interwebs.
jurov: but the asics are still big unknowns
mircea_popescu: jurov it's gotten to that point hasn't it. funny how things topple in btc.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: were you ddosed again?
mircea_popescu: yeh
mircea_popescu: didn't do much if anything at all this time.
thestringpuller: people must just not like you
thestringpuller: but girls love em
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu the jay z of btc
thestringpuller: can I produce your rap album?
mircea_popescu: lol sure
mircea_popescu: anyway, prolly kids getting their teeth cut.
thestringpuller: !ticker m ^OIX
assbot: [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 29.08954763 / 47.63946252 / 49.7064472 (no shares, 17,893.87 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)
thestringpuller: nice
thestringpuller: OIX is a good metric
mircea_popescu: im totally in love with it
jcpham: Your money is stored securely in the cloud (with 90% offline in secure storage), so if you lose your phone your money is still safe.
mircea_popescu: after it said 47+ about a day early.
jcpham: http://blog.coinbase.com/post/44730207780/the-coinbase-android-app-has-launched
mircea_popescu: jcpham remember the polish exchange that mtgox acquired in 2011 ?
mircea_popescu: that btc is to this day securely in the cloud.
thestringpuller: does that mean option marketers are manipulating the price?
jcpham: bitomat.pl i think
mircea_popescu: jcpham exactly, that's them.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller possibly that they draw from the same reservoir of future as the price does.
thestringpuller: ;;market sell 10000
gribble: A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 428772.0536 USD and would take the last price down to 40.1000 USD, resulting in an average price of 42.8772 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds
AndroUser512: Is it mer SAY uh po PESS coo?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: thats some oracle wisdom there
thestringpuller: hahaha
thestringpuller: AndroUser512 wow that made me lol in this huge meeting
AndroUser512: :)
mircea_popescu: mirˈt͡ʃe̯a poˈpes.ku
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu are you at odds with bitinstant now?
BitHub: heh mircea rap album
mircea_popescu: no ?
thestringpuller: also how the fuck did they get social engineered?
thestringpuller: ziggap is gonna surpass bitinstant at this rate
assbot: [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 634 @ 0.00073 = 0.4628 BTC [+]
AndroUser512: Ziggap wad down earlier, still?
thestringpuller: Ukto: stop being lazy and have assbot announce BF
AndroUser512: For realz
thestringpuller: whoa is ziggap getting ddosed too?
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it is kinda funny, shrem gets owned, site is offline for three days, customers miss rally, popescu is ddosed nothing happens.
mircea_popescu: i imagine it must be bruising egos but other than that... heh. who cares.
thestringpuller: well i was mad popescu!
thestringpuller: i couldnt get my oix from assbot
thestringpuller: unacceptable!!!!
mircea_popescu: hehe ok
mircea_popescu: http://www.torahinmotion.org/sites/default/files/50_asian_experiences_sheep.jpg
thestringpuller: mpex by design is built like a vault
mircea_popescu: here, have a bunch of oix's for later
AndroUser512: Shoulda found a way to call it OINX
thestringpuller: someone would to assassinate popescu
thestringpuller: have to*
mircea_popescu: MPOIX was in the list.
dub: I was expecting a much different picture
thestringpuller: in order to social engineer mpex
BitHub: peeps are working on it
mircea_popescu: im assassinating myself
mircea_popescu: death by chocolate.
BitHub: chocolate and pu$$y
thestringpuller: not by cuban cigars?
deadweasel: cuban pussy is cheaper
AndroUser512: Yep ziggap still down
jurov: everyone calm down and enjoy nice family photo: http://imgur.com/a4HcmCq
BitHub: mark cuban's mangina?
mircea_popescu: iz siggap aethero's thing ?
mircea_popescu: that ipo'd recently ?
BitHub: yeah
AndroUser512: Yes
mircea_popescu: ahahahaah that's a slovak duck
BitHub: just a buy and sell service
BitHub: well not even sell, just buy
jurov: no it's romanian. we don't use children.
AndroUser512: He says it means wallet in vietnamese or sumth
BitHub: north korean or something
mircea_popescu: jurov only because couldn't figure out how to make any :D
mircea_popescu: so why is it down ?
BitHub: teh hax0rs?