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mircea_popescu: well just don't get arrested over
freedom of speech lol
assbot: Captive orangutan Sandra has human right to
freedom, Argentine court rules - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... (
http://bit.ly/13vjqTj )
undata: decimation: that only works if you accept the
freedom-spreading justification
ben_vulpes: they didn't have the /
freedom/ to be transgendered.
ansc: mp you recently wrote about the two kinds of ppl:
freedom attaining and not. on trilema.
ansc: that is all fine and such. anything that human beings not destined for
freedom could relate to? (referring to one of your latest blog posts)
mats: 'A better way to do physics research is to build a lot of wealth outside of academia, and then fund myself as a scientist. That way I have complete
freedom and I'm not facing the crazy competition for government funding. If I can pull it off, that's exactly what I'll do.'
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Never forget Tillikum, the great
freedom fighter.
adlai: mircea_popescu:
freedom of "speech"... does this include the right to spend incredible wealth subsidizing propaganda rags that are killing the an already-dying business? (dead tree newspapers)
BingoBoingo reminds exploring the Darien as a land route to
freedom...
mircea_popescu: There is the moral of all human tales '(tis but the same rehearsal of the past) : first
Freedom, and then Glory when that fails. Wealth, vice, corruption, barbarism at last. For History, with all her volumes vast, hath but one page.
decimation: > It is certainly amazing how technology and commerce allow mass production of plastic spoons to be sold for three cents apiece, well worth the time and convenience they save me. However, all centrally planned green policies and their wannabe implementers always assign zero value for other people's time and convenience. Since the left instinctively despises everything that gives normal people more time,
freedom or material wealth,
mircea_popescu: Oh, for an honest Libertarian who would say "Yes, in Libertopia we'd have rampant quackery, organ-seizure, baby-selling, slavery in all but name - BUT THAT'S
FREEDOM!" ~Seth Finkelstein
mircea_popescu: fuck that. the
freedom you like is built on a certain kind of disinterest in effects.
decimation: re: gavin's 40 hr week << I was merely pointing out that if ascii's formula is (
freedom hrs)/(work hrs), then gavin might have a good score
mircea_popescu: then maybe one day the kid gets to the point where he even has the
freedom to consider wtf he's doing. further degree.
JuliaTourianski: Dostoyevsky said: "boots are superior to Pushkin" so what is
freedom?
freedom to starve of freeze in the cold? or
freedom to be warm and fed under rule
JuliaTourianski: is the discussion of
freedom even important or relevant anymore
JuliaTourianski: alright I'll be super direct: is
freedom possible? and if so, what is it?
BingoBoingo finds it more useful to consider
freedom a conditional
JuliaTourianski: the form of life he has invented for them, he will, on this definition, have succeeded in liberating them. He will, no doubt, have made them feel free - as Epictetus feels freer than his master (and the proverbial good man is said to feel happy on the rack). But what he has created is the very antithesis of political
freedom JuliaTourianski: so change direction from blowjobs, I wanted to ask your thought on this "
freedom" we're all obsessed with. i like this critique: "To coerce a man is to deprive him of
freedom -
freedom from what? Almost every moralist in human history has praised
freedom. Like happiness and goodness, like nature and reality, it is a term whose meaning is so porous that there is little interpretation that it seems able to resist"
xiando: I remember when we had
freedom of speech and property rights in Sweeden. Good times
BingoBoingo: gernika> What makes a slave happy? Certainly not
freedom. << Goal oriented activity
gernika: What makes a slave happy? Certainly not
freedom.
mircea_popescu: awestruck worker bids him enjoy his
freedom and leaves.
thickasthieves: wtf is this bullshit with, we sending you a letter, but now that youve read it you dont have
freedom of speech?
chetty: <undata> mircea_popescu: what higher
freedom than being unpestered for a bit exists?
undata: mircea_popescu: what higher
freedom than being unpestered for a bit exists?
mircea_popescu: Mikayla everyone has the right to the
freedom they actually want.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform childhood may be a poor experience of anything.
freedom included.
mircea_popescu: but that there's a world does not actually give the prisoner's notion of "
freedom" any legs.
mircea_popescu: undata: oh better yet, those who have yet to receive
freedom bombs are the "unliberated" << this is already a thing.
undata: oh better yet, those who have yet to receive
freedom bombs are the "unliberated"
undata: and likely operate without the
freedom-loving layer of bullshit
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> <asciilifeform> my mental concept of
freedom is more or less synonymous with never setting an alarm clock again. << ha! not even for say, a comet ? <<< i'm down to one alarm a week
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> my mental concept of
freedom is more or less synonymous with never setting an alarm clock again. << ha! not even for say, a comet ?
undata: americans are just lazy; you can still have
freedom here
assbot: Govt tells Christian ministers: Perform same-sex weddings or face jail, fines - Alliance Defending
Freedom assbot: Govt tells Christian ministers: Perform same-sex weddings or face jail, fines - Alliance Defending
Freedom decimation: like, can the president cancel '
freedom of assembly' where he wants?
decimation: "However, de Tocqueville came to the opposite conclusion: that in few places could one find ‘less independence of mind, and true
freedom of discussion, than in America’. Trusting that the system was fair and just, Americans simply gave up their independence of mind, and put their faith in newspapers and so-called ‘common sense’."
assbot: Re-Proposal - preserve
freedom of choice of init systems
assbot: Re-Proposal - preserve
freedom of choice of init systems
Adlai was toying the other day with an alternate world where everybody is born into indentured servitude, but can buy their way to
freedom once they've saved up enough
ThickAsThieves: Please, take a step back and ask yourself, as a consumer and citizen, what you are really doing, who you are really protecting, and then consider the price that will be paid in privacy,
freedom, and consumer value."
nubbins`: ;;google it's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal
freedom decimation: but what about '
freedom of speech' 'marketplace of ideas' and all that other bullshit
decimation: One cannot imagine a better situation for allowing bureaucrats unlimited
freedom of action than to create a massive propaganda apparatus (hollywood) which everyone (including dear leaders) believe to be the truth.
hanbot: godspeed
freedom cheetah
bounce was just reading a text about buddhism, from some tibetan guy went and lived in the yoosah. said it was all about
freedom. and that it's all in your mind. that's right,
freedom in your mind. -- maybe this'll go over better if actually imprisoned in the yoosah, maybe.
hanbot: asciilifeform well that's cool, gotta work with what you've got and all. if what you've got is profession-dictated structure, then sure, i can see it. it's an uncomfortable thought but at some point it may become necessary to weigh the importance of that structure against the importance of
freedom.
BingoBoingo: I mean the french can do it well, just when we have aspiring diesel that would suppose "
Freedom Fries"
ben_vulpes: financial
freedom is the only social good
mats_cd03: its social good through financial
freedom, man.
Dimsler: they only way to buy
freedom, and live as an anarchist is to obtain wealth
Dimsler: money is what buys
freedom assbot: CHAOS BEGETS
FREEDOM | Brave The World | bravetheworld.com
ben_vulpes: options: derp on shitty, non-lethal web stack solving problems for people with "real" businesses in exchange for some nominal amount of cash and the "
freedom" to write my own schedule, or drive hours to get to the place with the interesting multiphysics problems and...flourescent-lit workspacen.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "To be publicly critical of a project that is still so young and involves so many degrees of
freedom reflects poorly on your own intelligence."
decimation: "The Germans from Russia are descendents of Germans who settled in Russia in the years about 1763 to 1862. Their story begins with Tsarina Catherine II (Catherine the Great) who was empress of Russia, but a German princess by birth. In July 1763 she issued a manifesto to attract people from Western Europe to settle in Russia. The manifesto promised new settlers
freedom of religion,
freedom from taxes for a 5-30 year period,
freedom moriarty: mircea_popescu, of course this ideal is currently impeded by what i consider to be a gross infraction on one of the basic human rights, that is the
freedom of movement across borders, one trivialised by border control and such
mircea_popescu: [I]f women are given the
freedom of their bodies then they may well choose [experimental "ovular merging" technology that produces only female embryos] in great enough numbers to make a significant difference in the sex ratio of women to men. A 75% female to 25% male ratio could be achieved in one generation if one-half of a population reproduced heterosexually and one-half by ovular merging.
mircea_popescu: To secure a world of female values and female
freedom we must, I believe, add one more element to the structure of the future: the ratio of men to women must be radically reduced so that men approximate only ten percent of the total population. . . .
mircea_popescu: the animal's desire of
freedom properly surpassed any consideration of self preservation.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo oh but i am aware. and the reason i wake up so chipper & cheerful i nthe mornings is quite a large pile of this, where the oppressed have the key to their
freedom in their hand and somehow omitted to going to school the day its use was taught.
mircea_popescu has the great buenos aires trial of the enemies of
freedom script half written already.
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform can't immediately picture who might see wot the way he sees ads on site << anyway, this is about fucking
freedom, so, you know, enjoy fucking her. it's not about adding musts, it's about adding mays.
mircea_popescu: Kamuela if you care, this is intensely dissonant : "Who Is Kamuela Franco? Kamuela Franco is perhaps the most intensely
freedom-loving individual you will ever meet. If you've found Steve's work helpful, please donate to show your support."
mircea_popescu: but anyway, for closure : the resistance to anything unlawful is not a right, it's a
freedom. no court has or could have any authority to create a right out of it, or in any way to curtail it.
BingoBoingo feels so-so ready for 30-day walk to
freedom