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penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/i-love-rochester-so-will-you/
mircea_popescu: "i feel like a fart" "offensive ?" "inspired."
thestringpuller: ls
thestringpuller: ;;google bitstamp withdrawals suspended
gribble: Bitcoin withdrawal processing suspended - Bitstamp: <https://www.bitstamp.net/article/bitcoin-withdraws-suspended/>; Bitcoin Exchange Bitstamp Halts Customer Withdrawals - Bloomberg: <http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-11/bitcoin-exchange-bitstamp-halts-withdrawals.html>; Bitstamp, another Bitcoin exchange, goes down and halts withdrawals: (1 more message)
thestringpuller: ;;more
gribble: <http://money.cnn.com/2014/02/11/technology/bitcoin-bitstamp/>
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: ah autumn
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller wait is this new ? or just the feb thing ?
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TomServo: 0,w_636/18mkjam2vb6sajpg.jpg
TomServo: whups
Vexual: msg nickerv setpassword dog
Vexual: whups
Vexual: mircea_popescu great dissection of some great writing, i would think tho, that the our in our happiness refers not to the individual, but the collective man as a beast
Vexual: think peter fonda deciding to get loaded
decimation: asciilifeform: re: analogue computing << this is essentially what rf circuitry is doing. the general fad these days is to move all of this computation to the conventional binary machinery
Vexual: wait, was i supposed to think that? oshit
mircea_popescu: Vexual maybe.,
chalbersma: Mircea. I have the p2pool server ready for testing.
mircea_popescu: X-Rob you there ?
chalbersma: I do however need a link to use for the contact tab. Right now it redirects to me blog.
chalbersma: I can redirect to ATC homepage.
mircea_popescu: actually redirect it to here is prolly best
mircea_popescu: what are pool details again ?
mircea_popescu: o wait, gotta make an account or something first right ?
Vexual: yeah dumb it down, i never p2pd
chalbersma: It's p2pool
chalbersma: So use 104.131.60.126:8559 for the server
chalbersma: Your ATC address for the Username
chalbersma: and anything you'd like for the password
chalbersma: The web interface is available for viewing at http://104.131.60.126:8559/static/
assbot: P2Pool
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell X-Rob 104.131.60.126:8559 use bingo's address as before.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Vexual: do you recommend or unrecommend any hardware?
chalbersma: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool#Interoperability_table The code is 90% the same. But most things should work all right.
assbot: P2Pool - Bitcoin
chalbersma: I haven't had any problems with P2pool yet.
Vexual: chalbersma: it arrives in the wallet freshly minted yes?
chalbersma: Yep when the block is solved it's split evenly among the shares.
chalbersma: Here's an example of what the blocks look like when solved. https://blockchain.info/block-index/463628/0000000000000000149ef417868a4d9d3ed40bedbf9383ceb708ceb28fbfdd8c
assbot: Bitcoin Block #320583
Vexual: you should add atc donations
Vexual: oh thats not yors?
chalbersma: No it's the creator of the interface. I lifted the default one for one that was more useful.
Vexual: fuck the terms, this is altcoin
chalbersma: Hmm? What did I miss?
Vexual: donations should go to you
chalbersma: I'll give it a change.
Vexual: within the terms
Vexual: yay atc
Vexual: you put your own bc addy too
chalbersma: Yep
chalbersma: Gotta respect the king of coins.
Vexual: standard
Vexual: so you gonna send some atc to the p2pool devs then?
Vexual: i wouldn't bother, let them ask for it
TheNewDeal: hows the assets doing tonight
TheNewDeal: ill take that as a maybe
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assbot: jdanks +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
kakobrekla: !up jdanks
jdanks: hooray! however this is tumbleweed city as it seems now
kakobrekla: wont be for too long.
kakobrekla: your nick seems familiar
kakobrekla: !s jdanks
assbot: 66 results for 'jdanks' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=jdanks
kakobrekla: a ok
jdanks: hehe, yea i'm new to the whole WoT dealy. gotta start somewhere
RagnarDanneskjol: how are dem chickens jdanks
jdanks: is there anyone in the WoT doing anything like the guy trying to pull off blockchain valley? this morgan rockwell character is hard to gauge.
kakobrekla: blockchain valley?
RagnarDanneskjol: noone you'd want to deal with jdanks
jdanks: oh the lady birds are bein' lady birds as usual ragnardanneskjol. they have been enjoying my organic corn i let go a bit too long. lost it's sweet and got starchy.
kakobrekla: ;;rate jdanks 1 solely fore the purpose of ba voice. easy come easy go.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jdanks has been recorded.
RagnarDanneskjol: blockchain valley - another amazing __
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
RagnarDanneskjol: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=764996.0
assbot: Help fund the Blockchain Valley (Bitcoin Kinetics) via BTCJam
jdanks: https://www.facebook.com/BlockchainValley Yea this too. He kind of went off on a spout one day. Wasn't sure what to think of him. He was trashin' Mr. Weiner and others. Adam Kokesh hung with him and that kinda seems legit, but he no WoT I dunno why.
jdanks: He's usin' trash sites like cstocks and btcjam :/
jdanks: I guess the whole story is he has access to all this land, like a town, he just bought it up. He says he's gonna put solar (from Solar City) and Tesla is putting in a charging station. He has a bunch of vids of him working with kids, teaching them engineering and whatnot.
RagnarDanneskjol: eew gross
jdanks: yea he is all registered as a corporation and with all those tax dohickeys
RagnarDanneskjol: sounds liek creepsville
jdanks: so i was wondering if anyone in the WoT was doin' somethin' similar
RagnarDanneskjol: doubtful
RagnarDanneskjol: if mp buys an Island, I might move there
jdanks: Well, I are engineer. I no talk good. But I math well. So I'd like to be let known if someone is crazy enough to start a town (;
jdanks: will internet of things your biz for btc
RagnarDanneskjol: ha
RagnarDanneskjol: hey jdanks - cant remember, you got sha256 equipment?
jdanks: we have quite a few working device(s) and designs that can just as easily do udp, we can already http 1-2 km. blockchains everywhere, think about it (;
RagnarDanneskjol: hah
jdanks: i have one of those .3 GH/s usbs from long ago i made a killing with
jdanks: so no
RagnarDanneskjol: ok, me neither.. stopped mining ages ago
jdanks: bitcoin mining is for the goose chasers. and now the germans have a chip twice as efficient as anything out there. i'd rather put my meal ticket into btc straight up rather than miners.
RagnarDanneskjol: mhmm
chetty: http://theothermccain.com/2014/09/13/feminism-the-final-solution/
assbot: Feminism: The Final Solution? : The Other McCain
chetty is kinda hoping that link will produce a rant or 3
jurov: “The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.”
jurov: the stuff you feed poor mircea :)
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chetty: jurov, sadly I think he might approve of that
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jurov: chetty, not based on such premises
kakobrekla: !up PoUpA
kakobrekla: forgot to take antipsychotics?
chetty: jurov, well the premise probably not but the goal I suspect he would approve of
jurov: ;;later tell princessnell http://theothermccain.com/2014/09/13/feminism-the-final-solution/ wtf?
assbot: Feminism: The Final Solution? : The Other McCain
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: i'm curious whe she'd say, too
bounce: so you have like 50/50 male to female and them wimminses end up all perpetually repressed. and it's all those pesky heterosexual wimminses that aren't fixing it. so it'll have to be us lesbians. and we're going to do it with violence. lots of violence. only one out of every ten men survives!
bounce: what is there to rant about? "good luck with that" and that's all she wrote.
mircea_popescu: bounce wait wut ?
mircea_popescu: lesbian chicks would like a little manhandling and dunno how to ask properly ? what else is new.
mircea_popescu: i guess i forgot the quotes. "lesbian" chicks.
jurov: hi mircea, see 10 lines above
mircea_popescu goes to log dutifully
mircea_popescu: jdanks so what is this valley ?
mircea_popescu: RagnarDanneskjol: if mp buys an Island, I might move there << why an island dood. so idiots can try and blocade it all the time ? arent ddoses enough for you ?
RagnarDanneskjol: ha - good point.
mircea_popescu: jdanks: Well, I are engineer. I no talk good. But I math well. So I'd like to be let known if someone is crazy enough to start a town (; << ok so if you math well you must think good. what is the advantage of trying to implement irl a planet of hats ? it's a device of fiction, borne out of insufficiency of resources. here's your must-read: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlanetOfHats
assbot: Main/Planet of Hats - Television Tropes & Idioms
mircea_popescu: On their Wagon Train to the Stars, our intrepid heroes come across a planet with a single defining characteristic. Everybody is a robot, or a gangster, or a Proud Warrior Race Guy, or an over-the-top actor, or wearing a Nice Hat. To some degree, this is unavoidable; you only have so much screen time or page space to develop and explore a culture. This is especially true in episodic series where the heroes travel to a n
mircea_popescu: ew planet each week and you have to both introduce a planet and tell a story all within a single episode.
mircea_popescu: that.
mircea_popescu: jurov oh chetty is stirring up trouble i see :D
mircea_popescu: chetty: jurov, well the premise probably not but the goal I suspect he would approve of << not really. i don't mind the bulk of male derpitude, just as long as my women insulate me from it. actual extermination tho is an iffy proposition, you'd end up with a huge bulk of marginal and nul women with nothing to occupy them. best not alter nature's balances.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen princessnell
gribble: princessnell was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 4 days, 17 hours, 43 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <princessnell> i am a barbaric american monoglot, unfortunately :-/
mircea_popescu: hm, don't tell me she went underground to learn armenian or something.
jurov: guess it was implied the marginal women turn to lesbians :D
mircea_popescu: yeah because the authors are idiots.
mircea_popescu: instead of joining the harem of a dominant male as slaves and enjoy all the concha they can eat, they derp about as independent shegoats, imagining that they can ever score anything this way. as motherfucking if.
mircea_popescu: ;;seen boolcrap
gribble: boolcrap was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 30 weeks, 1 day, 18 hours, 51 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <boolcrap> like u do
mircea_popescu: ;;seen b00lcrap
gribble: b00lcrap was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 5 days, 20 hours, 15 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <b00lcrap> mostly just idle.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dollars to doughnuts, herr b00lcrap is digging some vegetable out of the ground even as we speak.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/i-love-rochester-so-will-you/#comment-107726 << someone was mean to me!
assbot: I love Rochester. So will you. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: and they speak russian!
asciilifeform: lol yeah saw
mircea_popescu: HOW DARES THEY!!1
mircea_popescu: i have not come to this internet for people to be mean to me!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ahaha, i've a shitfest from... '09. still going strong. ( http://www.loper-os.org/?p=42&cpage=2#comment-16766 etc )
assbot: Loper OS » Thumbs Down for Clojure
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform other than cooking pork fat on burning coran pages, i once said that all old romanian people are scum for having been willing and eager commie sluts.
mircea_popescu: the resulting flame covered like 800 comments or some shit.
asciilifeform: good times.
jurov: ;;later tell ThickAsThieves https://www.poloniex.com/coinRequest try adding ATC here?
assbot: Poloniex - Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency Exchange - Coin Request
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: modern fucking browser, has autocorrect. doesn't think phosgene is a word, doesn't think any latin is a word, even common expressions, i do more correcting of it than it does correcting of me
mircea_popescu: fucking modern technology of chickenheads.
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you're about to explain 'ignis fatuus', the popular theory involves phosphine - not phosgene.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nope im discussing cunts.
asciilifeform: ahaha
jurov: hue
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, no report this week, and it's unlikely i'll have time to make any posts over the next couple months; will resume around december
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron aite.
jurov: !up ThickAsThieves
ThickAsThieves: just popping in to say i was reading logs and submitted ATC to poloneieixiuex
ThickAsThieves: did a decent write-up so we'll see
ThickAsThieves: please go vote for it when it shows up, i'll notify when of they notify me, but they didnt ask for contact info sooo
mircea_popescu: dja need an account ?
ThickAsThieves: nope
jurov: for voting, yes. with 10 trades.
mircea_popescu: aite ima click teh link off all my ips lol
mircea_popescu: o rly ?
jurov: rly
mircea_popescu: well then nm.
ThickAsThieves: fwiw i have blacklisted cryptsy, if anyone cares what i think
ThickAsThieves: they pulled some shenanigans when i was withdrawing
mircea_popescu: i had no idea it was on anyone's whitelist
ThickAsThieves: worked out in the end but they were retarded about it
ThickAsThieves: i dont think it was
ThickAsThieves: but just adding fuel to the flame i guess
jurov: cryptsy ==== poloniex?
ThickAsThieves: no idea
ThickAsThieves: wouldnt be surprised if several alt ex were same owners
chetty: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/world-s-first-three-dimensional-printed-car-made-in-chicago/
assbot: World's First Three-Dimensional Printed Car Made in Chicago - Scientific American
ThickAsThieves: ;;estimate
gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 34005658695.3 based on data since last change | 33097603975.5 based on data for last three days
ThickAsThieves: ;;isup bitbet.us
gribble: bitbet.us is up
ThickAsThieves: not loading for me tho
mircea_popescu: wow they made a car ?
asciilifeform: chetty: try print so much as a nut from - the engine.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i see it.
mircea_popescu: can you try diff connection ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suppose modern cars are all practically printed anyway
asciilifeform: plastic, yes
mircea_popescu: yea
ThickAsThieves: mp it loads via my cellular connection
asciilifeform: but 'printing' is a uniquely inefficient way to shape plastic. it is justified for prototype, usually - would not want to manufacture en masse this way.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is very true. same could be said of plastics themselves tho, early on
mircea_popescu: when they were very shitty wood
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves ah hum, maybe your ip range got banned in ddos mitigation.
mircea_popescu: we had some trbl yest.
jurov: http://oglaf.com/humans/ lul
assbot: Humans!
mircea_popescu: ah cool, this goes jus' fine with my reddit piece.
penguirker: New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/buenos-aires-bdsm-la-casona-del-sado-aka-faker-house/
asciilifeform: from the loltron: http://cryptome.org/2014/09/nsa-treasure-map-der-spiegel-14-0914.pdf
mircea_popescu: allow me to dump some nonsense for ready future reference.
mircea_popescu: Enslaved by male-identification and years of practice within the system as we all still are to one degree or another, the assumption must be that the present system of monopoly capitalism and patriarchy must be replaced and that non-male-identified women must be the responsible ones. . . .
mircea_popescu: At least three further requirements supplement the strategies of environmentalists if we are to create and preserve a less violent world. I) Every culture must begin to affirm a female future. II) Species responsibility must be returned to women in every culture. III) The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race. . . .
mircea_popescu: To return species responsibility to women means in very practical terms that erotic and reproductive initiative must be restored to women all over the globe. . . .
mircea_popescu: Make the decision entirely that of the woman as to how she will be impregnated and how often, if indeed she chooses to be so at all, and whether by heterosexual intercourse, artificial insemination or a form of ovular merging. Restore to each woman the inalienable right to say what shall become of any fertilized egg and to control absolutely the number of children she wishes to emerge from her body. . . . Make nonexist
mircea_popescu: ent any male’s say-so in the process of reproduction. Create and protect alternative structures of economic and psychological support for independent women — women not attached to men — who are child-bearers and child-raisers. . . .
mircea_popescu: Women will bear the number of children they know can be sustained not just by their own social group but by the wide ecological system. They will not bear the children that some man wants only to perpetuate his name or the family possession of his property; they will not bear the children they presently convince themselves they must have because their only role is obedient wife and mother; women will not have the child
mircea_popescu: ren men think are necessary to perpetuate the tribe or the religion or the specific culture. Instead they will bear the children that they want, that they can care for, and that they assess are needed by the specific group and the entire species. . . .
mircea_popescu: In every culture it must be women in charge of the changes: women-identified women, no women who are pawns of men, not women who out of their fear of losing their lives or those of their children, still hold to the securities of that dangerous patriarchal culture, but women utterly free of coercion, free of male influence and committed to the principle that the right of species regulation is their own, and not the prer
mircea_popescu: ogative of any man. I suggest that lesbians and other independent women are already moving in this direction. . . .
mircea_popescu: To secure a world of female values and female freedom we must, I believe, add one more element to the structure of the future: the ratio of men to women must be radically reduced so that men approximate only ten percent of the total population. . . .
mircea_popescu: We now come to a critical point: how is such a reduction in the male population to take place? One option is of course male infanticide. It differs very little from the female infanticide that has apparently been carried out even into the twentieth century by some cultures. Such an alternative is clearly distasteful and would not constitute creative social change. . . .
mircea_popescu: [I]f women are given the freedom of their bodies then they may well choose [experimental "ovular merging" technology that produces only female embryos] in great enough numbers to make a significant difference in the sex ratio of women to men. A 75% female to 25% male ratio could be achieved in one generation if one-half of a population reproduced heterosexually and one-half by ovular merging.
mircea_popescu: Such a prospect is attractive to women who feel that if they bear sons no amount of love and care and nonsexist training will save those sons from a culture where male violence is institutionalized and revered. These are women saying, “No more sons. We will not spend twenty years of our lives raising a potential rapist, a potential batterer, a potential Big Man.”
mircea_popescu: so there you have it, perfectly good reason to oppose libertard environmentalism, along with the rest of women-studies driven libertardism.
jurov: ha, chetty knows you
mircea_popescu: the future, if there is one, is happy identification as slaves for the people who are, for very good reason, exactly that.
mircea_popescu: none of this bullcrap.
mircea_popescu: happiness comes out of accepting one's condition, not of pretending pigs fly and similar nonsense.
mircea_popescu: at least we clearly know where we stand.
mircea_popescu: jurov indeed.
chetty: Let me point out that as woman I think the author of that piece is totally insane.
mircea_popescu: this derpage is so delicious lol. olg hags clinging to a social relevancy and political influence they never had and never will have. derp on, sisters!
mircea_popescu: chetty just a little misguided, imo. she perceives the problem correctly, there's too many idiots.
mircea_popescu: the solutions she comes up with all stem from her unwarranted premise that she's a whole and complete being.
chetty: the current habit in some cultures of aborting the majority of female children is equally insane
mircea_popescu: anyway, i for one am muchly in favour of california and perhaps the entire us applying this novel thinking. for one thing, it's too expensive to find out what exactly the drawbacks of this ovular merging thing are other than by using voluntary subjects.
mircea_popescu: chetty simple way to beg for war is all.
mircea_popescu: anyway, "author and activist" is becoming the new "singer-songwriter", which is what elevator girls became after waitress-and-model went out of fashion with greenwich village
mircea_popescu: chetty to be honest, i think the only thing that's getting exterminated on the short and maybe medium term is your style of reasonable, golden middle sanity.
mircea_popescu: ain't nobody got time for that. not no more.
mircea_popescu: course they'll live to regret it, but on the plus side, not so very many of them.
chetty: hmm humans live longer, we have all these modern things to reduce work and yet we dont have time. I admit that one confounds me.
mircea_popescu: time is a psychological phenomenon.
mircea_popescu: roughly speaking, the time the subject perceives he has is a scalar computed as a function of the interruptions count in their brain.
mircea_popescu: the more often conscience flows get interrupted, the less subjective time is had.
mircea_popescu: simple musical verification of this : all military marches are short musical phrases with a lot of percution and a lot of short measures. all dirges are the opposite.
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kakobrekla: nah
kakobrekla: just the valve needs more energy to fail than to sustain fail
mircea_popescu: oh
mircea_popescu: yeah that makes sense
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: co2 goes in and then out of solution.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think kakobrekla has it. the cap is an de facto valve. under high pressure its seal fails, as presusre drops it collapses and seals again, which builds pressure again etc
asciilifeform: aha cap yes.
mircea_popescu: course i still wonder what causes the bubble hail.
asciilifeform: bubble << pressure drops, co2 comes out of solution
mircea_popescu: ah simultaneous with the reseal
mircea_popescu: pretty interesting party trick this
kakobrekla: needs quite fine tuning
mircea_popescu: its realyl not hard to do, i did it on 2/2 bottles i tried
kakobrekla: mebbe you are a fine tuner
chetty: interesting habit you got there, " beat to shit against a countertop"
mircea_popescu: ahem. FINELY TUNED beat to shit.
mircea_popescu: http://www.lnx.ro/2014/07/31/sdn/ << today's lulz, among many others : sdn!
assbot: SDN | I see dropped packets
ben_vulpes: <chetty> hmm humans live longer, we have all these modern things to reduce work and yet we dont have time. I admit that one confounds me. << girl gets a food processor, but prep time saved in mincing garlic does not make meals faster, but grander meals.
ben_vulpes: engineer automates a thing, does not get those hours back but instead firm can now build things faster and charge less than the competition for better quality work.
chetty: ben_vulpes, pfftt, takes as long or longer to setup and clean food processor than to just mince the garlic
ben_vulpes: garlic and the onions and the carrots and...
ben_vulpes: amortize setup across multiple runs
ben_vulpes: sheesh chetty this is frosh grade "lean" engineering :P
chetty: I bet I can prep a meal faster by hand than with a silly gadget
ben_vulpes: a meal certainly
chetty: and I am a grand cook too
ben_vulpes: i'm no expert, i just know what i've seen.
ben_vulpes: both in the kitchen and on the line.
mircea_popescu: chetty you also don't make finger salad.
ben_vulpes: out on the line i heard the same routine: "i can muscle these castings onto the fixture faster than any robot!""
chetty: well I can see it for mass production but in a home kitchen its silly unless you are feeding an army of children
mircea_popescu: what children, nobody's got time for that.
ben_vulpes: irc tho...
ben_vulpes: food processor's retarded, but do you use a mandolin, chetty?
mircea_popescu: romanian 4rd army (transylvania) used to serve basically two types of food. either cluj cabbage (layers of ground pork and cut cabbage cooked in a large pot for 2 hours) or porked potatoes (same thing)
mircea_popescu: they used half ton vats to cook the stuff. potatoes cleanned and cut by hand
mircea_popescu: cabbage idem.
ben_vulpes: typical labor surplus behavior
chetty: ben_vulpes, nope, good knife is all anyone really needs, well sharpened of course
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes quite.
ben_vulpes: i'm going to do all sorts of stupid shit when i have a labor surplus.
mircea_popescu: bellydancing university ?
ben_vulpes: finishing school but same diff
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mircea_popescu: wtf is with all the half price x.eur bids.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51011 @ 0.00075849 = 38.6913 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16059 @ 0.00075881 = 12.1857 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45650 @ 0.00075818 = 34.6109 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8925 @ 0.00075819 = 6.7668 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34205 @ 0.00075454 = 25.809 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22395 @ 0.00076004 = 17.0211 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 54 @ 0.01030002 = 0.5562 BTC [-] {4}
peterl: quiet today.
peterl: !up stormlight
peterl: !up jMyles
peterl: hi?
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/bitcoin-mining-company-fully-vindicated-after-expiry-of-cease-trade-order-1.2765131
assbot: Bitcoin mining company 'fully vindicated' after expiry of cease trade order - Saskatoon - CBC News
nubbins`: background info:
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/dominion-bitcoin-mining-hit-with-cease-trade-order-1.2633904
assbot: Dominion Bitcoin Mining hit with cease-trade order - Saskatchewan - CBC News
X-Rob: Tell me, assbot
X-Rob: Oh
X-Rob: it was gribble anyway
peterl: mixing up your bots?
X-Rob: I'm easily confused.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.1888033 = 1.1328 BTC [+] {4}
X-Rob: chalbersma:
X-Rob: Pool is asking for a hard restart every 2 seconds
X-Rob: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/8txtSMty
assbot: Pastebin: 8txtSMty | IRCCloud
peterl: !up aspho
peterl: !up DreadKnight
peterl: What brings you to #bitcoin-assets?
mircea_popescu: X-Rob what do you figure is the prlblem ?
X-Rob: mircea_popescu: I don't know. The pool shouldn't be requesting a hard reset that often. It means that the pool thinks the block time is 20 seconds-ish.
X-Rob: This is when ASICs suck compared to old GPU or CPU hardware, as they need extra time to reset and reconfigure
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4415 @ 0.0007602 = 3.3563 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: ;;nubbins` not an expert on vindication but expiration may as well mean neglect or w/e
gribble: Error: "nubbins`" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` not an expert on vindication but expiration may as well mean neglect or w/e
gribble: The operation succeeded.
chalbersma: X-Rob Can I get you to point some hashing power there for a bit. Let's see if I can see what the issue is.
X-Rob: chalbersma: no problems
X-Rob: fitiring now
chalbersma: Thanks!
X-Rob: chalbersma: you should be using the standard p2pool build, with just the magic changed and the ports.
chalbersma: That's basically all I've changed (in addition to adding the extra web interface bits.
X-Rob: I have no idea why it's asking for a full reset every couple of seconds.
X-Rob: it should be once every minute 8-\
chalbersma: I imagine it has to do with the changing hashrate.
X-Rob: No, p2pool doesn't work like that.
chalbersma: !up RagnarsBitch
RagnarsBitch: Yes, rob. There needs to be more than one miner on the network otherwise this issue will persist
RagnarsBitch: I have a ton of experience with this
chalbersma: Can you try setting a manual difficulty? I believe they added that feature to p2pool recently to improve stability. Let me look up the formatting on how to do it.
RagnarsBitch: If anyone in here has an asic miner they can spare, please point it at the pool for 24 hours so this can get sorted out
RagnarsBitch: What's the address again chalbersma?
chalbersma: http://104.131.60.126:8559/
RagnarsBitch: Thank
chalbersma: np
X-Rob: RagnarsBitch: What does the number of miners have to do with it? The share value is calculated based on the hash rate aimed at the pool.
X-Rob: Although
X-Rob: it appears that thepool just died.
X-Rob: uh
X-Rob: aimed at /the p2pool network/ sorry
X-Rob: chalbersma: The miner is set up with that pool as priority one
RagnarsBitch: It has to do with packet loss and pools not being designed for just a single miner. I know I've had these same issues anytime just one miner is active on a pool , then resolves as soon as a couple more come online
X-Rob: Uh, no.
X-Rob: I don't think you understand the problem.
RagnarsBitch: Sure that is possible
X-Rob: No, it's not.
X-Rob: Oh
X-Rob: You not understanding is possible 8)
X-Rob: Yes.
RagnarsBitch: Easy there rob
chetty: http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/14/6147887/stellar-discovers-gchq-surveillance-documentary
assbot: This is what it's like to find out the government hacked your business | The Verge
X-Rob: RagnarsBitch: wait, I do apologise. I was saying 'packet loss is not possibe'.
X-Rob: but that pool is barely reachable
X-Rob: so, yes, packet loss is one isse
RagnarsBitch: Ok. Describe barely reachable..digi ocean says its been up the whole time
X-Rob: I am trying to connect to the p2pool port to see what the share value is
X-Rob: and it's just hanging
X-Rob: then it just sent a connectionr eset
RagnarsBitch: Right, you know p2pool is slow as molasses to show share value
X-Rob: RagnarsBitch: that's also incorrect.
X-Rob: but I'm not even getting the web page.
RagnarsBitch: Hanging night be an issue, we'll see
X-Rob: just said 'waiting'
RagnarsBitch: Ok
chalbersma: Taking a look at it.
X-Rob: ok
X-Rob: web just got better
RagnarsBitch: Geez rob. If you'd just built the pool like you said, we wouldn't be having this conversation
RagnarsBitch: :)
X-Rob: ... this is a really good point, RagnarsBitch
X-Rob: Ah, right. Share difficulty at 1.
jdanks: mircea_popescu: jdanks so what is this valley ? << seems like a hippie commune for BTC only everything. I can't imagine how we would pay for our power or electricity but it seems like the guy behind it all wants to teach children the importance of engineering, electronics, and crypto, through having a whole town run/get paid in BTC or other.
chalbersma: X-Rob can you try using a higher manual difficulty. Add +<diff> after your address in the username field.
X-Rob: chalbersma: have done that. IT's at +1024 now
X-Rob: It's not actually working, as it's still asking for difficulty 1 shares.
chalbersma: hmm
X-Rob tries setting the share difficulty
chalbersma: This is what I'm seeing on your shares: http://pastebin.com/dRLKzbAM
assbot: 2014-09-14 17:18:13.150146 GOT SHARE! 12djAcViRDNpfzkBEpN2N1RXCDocNi41BV a16a110 - Pastebin.com
X-Rob: yes, as the share difficulty is set at 1
X-Rob: and it's not increasing
X-Rob: I'm just trying it with /1024 to see if that'll help
X-Rob: which has been buggy for a while.
chalbersma: kk
chalbersma: !up RagnarsBitch
RagnarsBitch: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153232.0
assbot: A guide for mining efficiently on P2Pool, includes FUD repellent and FAQ
chalbersma: Let me try ressetting both nodes and the share data on them. Starting fresh.
RagnarsBitch: https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool/issues
assbot: Issues forrestv/p2pool GitHub
X-Rob: chalbersma: In bitcoin.py, (if you didn't rename it, if you did, then you know what you're doing) look for SANE_TARGET_RANGE and change the '1000' to 1000000
chalbersma: kk
chalbersma: Current same target range:
chalbersma: SANE_TARGET_RANGE = (2**256//2**32//1000000 - 1, 2**256//2**32 - 1)
mircea_popescu: jdanks myeah. maybe an idea for much later.
X-Rob: I don't know this part of the code, but apparently in work.py, there's ' target = 2**256-1' which you can change to target = bitcoin_data.difficulty_to_target(2048)
X-Rob: that may work
RagnarsBitch: jdanks -what's this WE shit. Sounds like your bags are packed
mircea_popescu: it's a counterfactual we.
jdanks: royal we
RagnarsBitch: Oh
RagnarsBitch: Heh
jdanks: but yes my bags ARE packed (: maybe not for his venue but for A venue
RagnarsBitch: I run a haxor sweatshop in my house, you're welcome anytime. Plenty of room for the chickens. Although not sure how they'll get along with the pups
jdanks: haha, yea they are outside birds. i'm sure we'd violate some kind of ordinance bringin them inside. of course the city'd hafta find out before your pups make a sweet supper outa them.
jdanks: i'm more of an outdoorsy type too (; if you have a patio and wifi i'm sold
RagnarsBitch: Oh yes. Nice sized backyard for OC. 2 mins from the beach
decimation: RagnarsBitch: is that Ocean City or Orange County?
RagnarsBitch: Laguna bch..orange
RagnarsBitch: jdanks is like 45 mins north of me
jdanks: OooOOoo so you ain't that far. I'm down in pico or bellflower a bunch
RagnarsBitch: I have this big hill behind my house I need to start planting on..tomatoes, corn, weed or w/e
jdanks: It's still hot, but that'd be next year
RagnarsBitch: Hmm. So can't plant until winter?
jdanks: i'd get a bunch of greens going till it cooled down. I may also start some carrots, beets, and parsnips early. maybe wait a couple more weeks.
RagnarsBitch: Nice
jdanks: Nah it's not that you can't plant it's just you may not get great fruit
RagnarsBitch: Right
jdanks: Roots or fruits like full sun. 12 hours for fruits if you can give it without scorching or drying out the plant
jdanks: weed'd be like 15 minutes a day 4 times a day, you can grow that anywhere but in the ground i'd start those march/april
RagnarsBitch: Hmm k
jdanks: water i mean, oh! i hafta get our sprinkler solenoids to ya when we have them working and assembled
RagnarsBitch: Already set up
jdanks: you can just pop the solenoid with the wires that go to the zone control box and replace it with ours to control it with your iphone/android or web browser
jdanks: you can get true control out of your zoning. i recall those boxes get pretty expensive when you want three timers
jdanks: and it's three timers to share amongst 5 or so circuits
RagnarsBitch: Ooh cool. Ok, enough farmer talk for now bud..I know you geek out on this stuff
X-Rob: chalbersma: [2014-09-15 07:49:28] Pool 1 difficulty changed to 1.0
X-Rob: [2014-09-15 07:49:28] Pool 1 stratum+tcp://104.131.60.126:8559 alive, testing stability
chalbersma: Okay I think I changed the max difficulty.
jdanks: Yes, and just incase the room didn't know I sell eggs for BTC. organic fresh chicken eggs. sometimes produce but not really (;
kakobrekla: are you chickens legal?
X-Rob: chalbersma: you want to change the MINIMUM difficulty, not the MAXIMUM
chalbersma: Ahh that makes sense.
chalbersma: Let me give that a try
kakobrekla: mininum?
jdanks: kakobrekla they use to not be but they are now! not a certified farm so i can't sell at farmers markets but who needs those!
kakobrekla: so its legal until its illegal?
jdanks: apparently in Los Angeles we have a city ordinance allowing animal control to dictate the minimum distance to be from a "dwelling", which is about 30 ft for hens and 100 ft for cocks
jdanks: I assume animal control could make it illegal any day they want
X-Rob: chalbersma: [2014-09-15 07:59:31] Pool 1 difficulty changed to 0.0
X-Rob: [2014-09-15 07:59:31] Pool 1 stratum+tcp://104.131.60.126:8559 alive, testing stability
X-Rob: that's not good
chalbersma: Let me undo my last change
X-Rob: chalbersma: It's still accepting 1 difficulty shares as a valid p2pool block
chalbersma: SANE_TARGET_RANGE = (2**256//2**32//1000000 - 1, 2**256//2**32 - 1)
chalbersma: it's Min then Max right?
X-Rob: you'd think so, yeah
chalbersma: SANE_TARGET_RANGE = (2**1024//2**32//1000000 - 1, 2**256//2**32 - 1)
chalbersma: So this should increase that number.
X-Rob: Mmm
X-Rob: that'
X-Rob: that's not going to be right
jdanks: http://www.redpepper.co.ug/african-businessman-dies-after-being-raped-by-his-5-wives/ i'm sure mircea will go this way with more like 500 instead of 5 and slaves instead of wives
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mircea_popescu: jdanks if it was gonna happen it'd have happened by now
X-Rob: I'm not sure about the being beaten by sticks paart
X-Rob: but the rest doesn't sound that bad.
jdanks: they were threatening to do so
jdanks: death by snu snu!
mircea_popescu: sticks and stones may break my boners...
TheNewDeal: 5 of the wives ran into the forrest following the sex marathon of death
artifexd: http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1683533477 << Bitcoin news?
assbot: 401 Authorization Required
mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal looking for boarcock
nubbins`: mircea_popescu yeah it seems like they just sort of gave it up rather than "what you guys are doing is okay" etc
mircea_popescu: yeah
nubbins`: from what little i know, it seems like they were essentially issuing mining bonds or similar
nubbins`: no doubt the entire thing was a lot of back-and-forth over semantics
mircea_popescu: "so i call the suicide helpline and they don't want to fucking help. they keep going about how they're there to help people NOT kill themselves. fucking scam. call it suicide fail line dudes!"
TheNewDeal: artifexd that's some good exposure for bitcoin - wish she would have talked about some worthwhile stuff as oppposed to openbazaar etc. would be kinda nice to have pornhub integrate
mircea_popescu: pornhub ?!
TheNewDeal: I'm not saying they are integrating
artifexd: "exposure" lol
TheNewDeal: it was just one chick showing her titties and talking about some piece of shit bitcoin companies like open bazaar
TheNewDeal: :D
mircea_popescu: ya srsly, what's the big deal with pornhub lol.
TheNewDeal: it's like the porn website with the most views per day
mircea_popescu: sooooo....
TheNewDeal: #77 in alexa worldwide...
mircea_popescu: what do you think this is, 2010 and anyone's not yet heard of bitcoin or something ?
TheNewDeal: I enjoy it when good companies pick up bitcoin, especially ones that are well suited for using it as a payment system
mircea_popescu: well sure.
TheNewDeal: Hoipster had a sweet limerick, if that was his creation
mircea_popescu: masterlimerick.
TheNewDeal: looks like it wasn't his creation http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=58738&start=40
assbot: xkcd • View topic - The Anti-Joke thread.
mircea_popescu: !up transfix
mircea_popescu: nice find.
mircea_popescu: course... it could be him.
mircea_popescu: pretty cool thread anyway lol
TheNewDeal: possible. googling it goes back further, to 2008. I can't find the original
mircea_popescu: if there's a wanna-be writer reading here, looking desperately for that divine spark of literary genius, that exceptional idea that'll drag him out of the muck of his anonimity into the glory of the parnassus :
mircea_popescu: write fucking melds. take two classics and write them together.
mircea_popescu: start with a lolita - animal farm meld. i'd read it.
mircea_popescu: 1984 - wizard of oz should be pretty fucking trippy too.
mircea_popescu: the space
mircea_popescu: 's quite vast. gargantua & pantagruel around the world in 80 days can even be done straight in french.
mircea_popescu: for canadians.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.18999402 = 3.2299 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8235 @ 0.00076381 = 6.29 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18465 @ 0.00076677 = 14.1584 BTC [+]