⏐︎ 6031
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 12411 @ 0.0012 = 14.8932 BTC
Anduck: punkman: contract says that rg is representing bitvps. sure. but that contract is not signed by bitvps owners.
Anduck: they can state whatever they want. the signature of the owners isn't there, making the contract/paper invalid
danielpbarron: !down Anduck repetitive
punkman: "i guess it does lower my trust when i state out the facts." "am still not aware of all the facts."
Anduck: i don't need to know all the facts when i only speak about few...... come on, this is all you can do?
BingoBoingo: http://www.dailydot.com/lol/erotic-german-carp-fishing-calendar/
assbot: This erotic German carp calendar is the worst Christmas gift imaginable ... ( http://bit.ly/1vi03nY )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18657 @ 0.00067744 = 12.639 BTC [+]
punkman: !down Anduck
punkman: it dun work kako
punkman: ;;gettrust assbot Anduck
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Anduck!~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Anduck: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Anduck | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Anduck | Rated since: Tue May 8 11:28:43 2012
kakobrekla: myea, 'down' doesnt actively check for l2 :|
punkman: what does it check?
Anduck: oh no :(
Anduck: :)
kakobrekla: the relationship between downer and downee at upping
kakobrekla: Anduck would you be so kind and hop (part and join if you want) the chan?
Anduck: kind after you told me to fuck off? sorry,no.
Anduck: you're too irrogant to ask me for favours..
punkman: ignorant+arrogant=irrogant?
kakobrekla: idk but it sounds bad.
punkman: your irrogant!
kakobrekla: lmao
punkman: ima start using that
assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3M0RME6.txt )
BingoBoingo: !b 5 ✂︎
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1025 @ 0.0012 = 1.23 BTC
punkman: !t m s.bbet
assbot: [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0002 / 0.00021036 / 0.000459 (5000 shares, 1.05 BTC), 7D: 0.0001 / 0.00014649 / 0.000459 (83033 shares, 12.16 BTC), 30D: 0.0001 / 0.00024317 / 0.00049 (130112 shares, 31.64 BTC)
punkman: who tanked bbet!
punkman: thought I think I might have grabbed some of those 0.0001 shares
punkman: *though
kakobrekla: tanked on a 1 btc volume ?
kakobrekla: no, 12.
BingoBoingo: What happens next during MP's vacation? Is pirateat40 going to show up and say Ponzi would still be going if only hanbot wasn't slandering his soul?
kakobrekla: !l m s.bbet
assbot: Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.0002 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: this is not correct
kakobrekla: ;;later tell mircea_popescu ping
gribble: The operation succeeded.
punkman: why is it wrong?
punkman: oh never mind
kakobrekla: theres a couple of endpoints where assbot gets data for mpex
kakobrekla: and seems some of those endpoints are deaf
kakobrekla: and im missing trade data for all the symbols
kakobrekla: the !l command is a locally cached command.
kakobrekla: this has correct data : http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.BBET
assbot: CoinBr Live S.BBET ... ( http://bit.ly/1vi3Stl )
decimation: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 332.89, Best ask: 333.82, Bid-ask spread: 0.93000, Last trade: 333.91, 24 hour volume: 11841.92676751, 24 hour low: 319.9, 24 hour high: 333.99, 24 hour vwap: 328.30862748
decimation: !up Quanttek
thestringpuller: cazalla still awake?
decimation: !up kanzure
cazalla: thestringpuller, i am, just put the kid down to zzz
thestringpuller: http://theraptest.com/ << this is up my ally
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: found it
BingoBoingo: Well I found it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2q3pfw/nas_gives_his_true_fans_the_choice_to_get_into/
assbot: Nas gives his "true fans" the choice to get into Bitcoin : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1ABcalo )
BingoBoingo: This is how coinbase competes with BitPay during Bitcoin Bowl week
thestringpuller: i wish they had jay-z or something
thestringpuller: i fucking hate nas tho. he's not a real gangsta
thestringpuller: he also made me hate kelis for no reason!
thestringpuller: based on this test, Kanye is my favorite rapper out of all these
thestringpuller: Pac is my least
cazalla: hate 2pack? you are such a hipster thestringpuller
thestringpuller: d00d
thestringpuller: fuck pac
thestringpuller: if it wasn't for him being brain washed by suge knight
thestringpuller: we'd still have biggie
thestringpuller: they should have all just ganged up on suge knight
thestringpuller: and yea I'll say it I'm glad suge knight got shot up recently!
thestringpuller emotional backpacker
thestringpuller: ;;ud backpacker
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=backpacker | Backpacker is based on a fashion style popular in the mid to late 90s where people involved in hip-hop wore large backpacks. Originated by graf wri...
cazalla: lol
cazalla: but yeah i saw this, checked out the saw but it's a bit of a zzz
cazalla: write it up though if you are inclined, would go with the 50c article
mod6: im waitin on Bitcoin Motivation 101
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 6650 @ 0.0012 = 7.98 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32850 @ 0.00063851 = 20.9751 BTC [-] {3}
thestringpuller: fiddy: i don't wanna be hidin' inside when nobody outside anymore
kakobrekla: !up paxtoncamaro91
decimation: !up badon
BingoBoingo: !up jborkl
jborkl: Hello all
BingoBoingo: Hello
ben_vulpes: i'm aliiiiive
ben_vulpes: sort of
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Why only sort of?
decimation: ben_vulpes: how did the unbillable work go?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: went to bed at 5 am, woke up at 9
BingoBoingo: Ah
ben_vulpes: decimation: well last night after rigorous testing i neglected to disable the nightly job that i'd just proved responsible for taking down the client cluster
ben_vulpes: "proved" << just for you, alf
decimation: sucks man
decimation: I hate redoing work
ben_vulpes: so i woke up from the sleep of "ah - i've finally stablized this thing" at the butt of dawn to bring the cluster back
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1200 @ 0.0012 = 1.44 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 950 @ 0.0012 = 1.14 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1020 @ 0.0012 = 1.224 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 4175 @ 0.0012 = 5.01 BTC
[]bot: Bet placed: 1.30268247 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to win vs S&P 500" http://bitbet.us/bet/989/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 44(Y):56(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.12679026 BTC. Current weight: 9,854.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: so you think your day job is painful. go debug a rom, for an evil embedded cpu arch, to which you haven't source.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: so you think your day job is painful. go debug a rom, for an evil embedded cpu arch, to which you haven't source. << If you had the source though it wouldn't be sporting.
asciilifeform spends his evenings debugging an entirely other rom to which he does have source. and disagrees, seeing how there is plenty of sport in it.
BingoBoingo: But is the other, evening, ROM evil?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1470 @ 0.0012 = 1.764 BTC
danielpbarron: !up dustcoin
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 1250 @ 0.0012 = 1.5 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2740 @ 0.0012 = 3.288 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 12000 @ 0.001208 = 14.496 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00121947 = 1.2195 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1084 @ 0.00122532 = 1.3282 BTC [+] {11}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 1250 @ 0.00464998 = 5.8125 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00122918 = 1.2292 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1500 @ 0.0012311 = 1.8467 BTC [+] {9}
TheNewDeal: ;;nethash
gribble: 280594055.846
TheNewDeal: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 335484 | Current Difficulty: 3.945767130713873E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 336671 | Next Difficulty In: 1187 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 5 hours, 42 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 37656692084.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.56433
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.00064244 = 11.9494 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1477 @ 0.00123243 = 1.8203 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 4426 @ 0.00123312 = 5.4578 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1309 @ 0.00123397 = 1.6153 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2250 @ 0.00124257 = 2.7958 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00063509 = 11.0823 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15874 @ 0.00065875 = 10.457 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00063396 = 18.7652 BTC [-] {2}
Naphex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQYw49saqc marry xmas, and such :D laters
assbot: Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/13WT2m6 )
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 838 @ 0.001215 = 1.0182 BTC [+]
mats: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/helping-a-poor-soul-having-better-days--2
assbot: Helping a poor soul having better days | Indiegogo ... ( http://bit.ly/16Mo15j )
kakobrekla: !up AndrewJackson
kakobrekla: !up Ssateneth
kakobrekla: !up hotrew
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 954 @ 0.001215 = 1.1591 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up Elio20
punkman: !up austeritysucks
BingoBoingo: !up austeritysucks
BingoBoingo: Hello austeritysucks
austeritysucks: hi there
BingoBoingo: What brings you around these parts?
austeritysucks: been using bitcoin as virtual items merchant and accumulated some just poking around
BingoBoingo: Cool
punkman: cool, what do you sell?
austeritysucks: csgo items mostly
austeritysucks: counter strike on steam
BingoBoingo: Ah, there's channel logs in the topic if you are interested in some history
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00063918 = 11.0578 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/gchq-says-its-surveillance-ability-crippled-post-snowden/
assbot: GCHQ Says Its Surveillance Ability is Crippled Post-Snowden | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1zeZaOq )
Apocalyptic: BingoBoingo, "actually has some an explicit" probably a typo
BingoBoingo: fix'd
BingoBoingo: Thanks
mike_c: ping jurov
mike_c: have you ever thought about adding the ability to short mpex stocks to coinbr? seems like it would be a great service for you as a brokerage.
mike_c: let people lend shares at an interest rate, and let others borrow (with btc collateral) to short.
thestringpuller: mike_c dunno if there is enough volume for that
mike_c: it is grease for the wheels.
mike_c: like right now, s.bbet has a big bid/ask spread. but it can be tough to market-make a stock if you can't borrow shares to sell.
mike_c: and obviously there is plenty of s.mpoe volume
mike_c: and volatility
thestringpuller: volume was a bad word
thestringpuller: i dunno if there is enough inventory
thestringpuller: volume was completely the wrong word
mike_c: you're going to have to use more words :) I don't follow your concern.
thestringpuller: i don't know if the conglemorate of coinbr users have the inventory of stock necessary to lend.
mike_c: yes, but coinbr would now be offering interest on passive stock holdings. so perhaps it would pick up new types of customers.
asciilifeform: nanotube around? yesterday i updated my key (new exp date, same fingerprint); still getting 'Error: Problem creating encrypted OTP file.' from gribble.
asciilifeform: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x17215D118B7239507FAFED98B98228A001ABFFC7 << appears
assbot: Search results for '0x17215d118b7239507fafed98b98228a001abffc7' ... ( http://bit.ly/1wCSVXQ )
asciilifeform: but no worky.
BingoBoingo: !up nanotube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47433 @ 0.00063918 = 30.3182 BTC [+]
nanotube: asciilifeform: refreshed your key. (regular cron job runs weekly)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1026 @ 0.00125487 = 1.2875 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2461 @ 0.00126472 = 3.1125 BTC [+] {9}
TomServo: !up drawingthesun
kakobrekla: !up drawingthesun
asciilifeform: nanotube: thx!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45050 @ 0.00067001 = 30.184 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2397 @ 0.0012599 = 3.02 BTC [+]
mike_c: who is best torrent search these days?
mats: do you want an invite to a private tracker?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17326 @ 0.00063648 = 11.0277 BTC [-]
mike_c: um. idk. sure?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6000 @ 0.00033338 = 2.0003 BTC [+] {5}
kakobrekla: (if its what.cd rather say no)
mats: pm email
mats: i only had the one what.cd invite
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.118 = 2.124 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 47719 @ 0.00004899 = 2.3378 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 150 @ 0.00898401 = 1.3476 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Oh look other people are tired of being hasseled with ideas too http://www.itworld.com/article/2862466/im-done-agreeing-to-ndas-before-hearing-ideas.html
assbot: I'm done agreeing to NDAs before hearing ideas | ITworld ... ( http://bit.ly/1xdUJIB )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/sony-now-to-release-movie/
assbot: Sony Now to Release Movie | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1whRhp6 )
TomServo: Ahah - what a bunch of clowns.
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo I'm going to need you to GPG sign this NDA before I discuss details of this project...
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: Well, at least you are recorded in the WoT in a way other than Mr Spam is.
thestringpuller: I want to talk to you about this idea flappy plane. It's going to revolutionize aviation.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60016 @ 0.00063775 = 38.2752 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1573 @ 0.00125 = 1.9663 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00121723 = 1.2172 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 5000 @ 0.00121502 = 6.0751 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla pong
mircea_popescu: ;;rated grubles
gribble: You have not yet rated user grubles
mircea_popescu: ;;rate grubles -1 Disingenuous at best. One of the large group of everyday nitwits that wandered into Bitcoin early on enough so as to end up with a much larger momentary fortune than their limited brainpower could support. After squandering it through the usual means, they prefer to pretend their funciar stupidity is someone else's fault.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user grubles has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: re the entire grubles/bitvps thing : the listing was discussed for a while, in a public channel. grubles was there, and not only represented himself in agreement, but represented rg as the owner of the thing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the contract has a specific clause, 3(a)That no third party has offered verifiable proof as to the inaccuracy or incompleteness of the representations and warranties made herein and that no market makers, preferred traders and other significant investors of MPEx have publicly proffered doubt as to the accuracy or completeness of the representations and warranties made herein ;
mircea_popescu: he never availed himself of it, and that is exactly enough for constructive tacit agreement, just as good as if he swore to the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the guy didn't protest at any point while rg was still running the thing, nor did he stand up to take over once rg fucked it up.
mircea_popescu: there was about a month there while namworld was struggling to salvage the thing. which meanwhile i think died again or what is it these days ? ☟︎
thestringpuller: oh look it's a popescu!
thestringpuller waves
mircea_popescu: heya thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: how goes the merryments ?
mircea_popescu: !up cornfeedhobo
cornfeedhobo: gracias
thestringpuller: They are interesting! I think my 3D artist has some renders as an XMas present for you. Hopefully chetty can help us get it in the engine sometime Q1.
mircea_popescu: for sure!
thestringpuller: How is your vacation going?
mircea_popescu: pretty fun!
thestringpuller: warmer than the n hemisphere i hope ;)
thestringpuller: not that you'd need warmth with that harem of yours ;)
mircea_popescu: do you realise i've been pretty much here, and on -otc before that, almost every day for like three years straight ?
mircea_popescu: nuts if you say it outloud.
thestringpuller: Well you do have highest word count for good reasons!
thestringpuller: so I work for the marketing department here as a developer.
thestringpuller: in one of the meetings I almost went "marketing is rape"
thestringpuller: and was about to start quoting trilema
mircea_popescu: o.O
thestringpuller: haha! I have no idea why we spend so much on marketing. These designers are wasting their precious time.
mircea_popescu: well just don't get arrested over freedom of speech lol
joecool: heh return of rg to irc seems to be causing arguments in all the bitcoin-* channels
kakobrekla: but he doesnt own his key anymore?
joecool: kakobrekla: i thought that was just a rumor, for months everyone thought he sold his forum login too, yet he claims not since he came back to irc
kakobrekla: dik.
mircea_popescu: joecool was a fact back then.
mircea_popescu: these things don't change over time i dun think.
joecool: no i wouldn't expect that to change over time if true
mats: it was entertaining to see Anduck chat again
mats: feelings were hurt and words were had
cornfeedhobo: mircea_popescu: sounds like a fun 3 years
mircea_popescu: guy's kinda add.
mircea_popescu: **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 8 16:13:16 2012
mircea_popescu: Apr 08 16:13:16 *Now talking on #bitcoin-otc
mircea_popescu: Apr 08 16:13:16 *Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. | http://bitcoin-otc.com/ | http://bit.ly/x56Fd5 | Start with the ;;guide | Before trading, talk to people, and check ratings. | Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud | Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc | Bitcoin VPS: http://bitvps.com | BTC → MP @ http://btcpak.com | Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe
assbot: #bitcoin-otc ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hx0f8w )
assbot: Bitcoin-otc channel guidelines - bitcoin-otc wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hx0ikJ )
assbot: MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hx0gcJ )
assbot: BitVPS: SSD VPS & Dedicated Servers for Bitcoin | SSD VPS + Dedicated Servers for Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hx0gti )
mircea_popescu: Apr 08 16:13:16 *Topic for #bitcoin-otc set by nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube at Wed Apr 4 06:47:00 2012
mircea_popescu: ^going through old logs.
mircea_popescu: does -otc still have sponsors or nomoar ?
cornfeedhobo: i havent seen one in a year, i think
joecool: -otc can't even pull together an events bot
cornfeedhobo: afaik, the ops have one
mircea_popescu: well, let it be a lesson to all aspiring states : don't allow gmaxwells anywhere near anything, or they'll shit up your future.
cornfeedhobo: gmaxwell? i think i may have missed the drama involving him ... mind filling me in?
mircea_popescu: cornfeedhobo http://trilema.com/2013/the-froth-of-our-days/
assbot: The froth of our days pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hx0Wid )
cornfeedhobo: hahaha "LOL @ #bitcoin-otc-nsfw is a danieldaniel free zone."
mircea_popescu: i think guy was like 16 or something at the time
mircea_popescu: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2012/04/07#l1333839931 << bitvps had one of those "vote your favorite face" thing
assbot: BitcoinStats ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hx1FjD )
cornfeedhobo: he is 16 now. i have met him in NYC. not a fan.
mircea_popescu: a really ? i never kept too close track. just a kid wandered in one day.
mircea_popescu: 22:13 rgsoon you guys can invest in BitVPS
cornfeedhobo: he has gone out of his way too many times to be extremely rude. i found it fitting when he was hired by CoinBase
cornfeedhobo: (customer support)
mircea_popescu: Apr 06 06:24:27 <rg>just set your password to asdfghjkl;' that way you can zip through the whole row. the enter key is even at the end. thats to root password to every bitvps server.
mircea_popescu: Apr 06 06:25:10 <pigeons>i set mine to "incorrect", so when i forget it, the app tells me
mircea_popescu: good old days lol
cornfeedhobo: lol
mircea_popescu: cornfeedhobo isn't support the hell computer afficionados go to die in ?
joecool: cornfeedhobo: still think the best was seeing a minor (danieldaniel) lend btc to a heroin addict (rg), -otc is always good entertainment
cornfeedhobo: that is certainly what i have always thought
cornfeedhobo: indeed
cornfeedhobo: and cry about not getting it back. lol
mircea_popescu: jborkl: What was the rate, 7% per day? Or week << per week
mircea_popescu: but he had an insider deal where he paid the various captains of industry more so they got the idea to resell.
mircea_popescu: joecool when was this ?
joecool: mircea_popescu: about a year or so ago
mircea_popescu: after my time.
jborkl: sweet action, 7% per week... seems so realistic
thestringpuller: cornfeedhobo: danieldaniel is a weird kid.
mircea_popescu: at the time, bitcoin was a few dollars and basically nobody gave much of a shit.
thestringpuller: he's trustworthy tho, or at least was.
mircea_popescu: eventually people started caring and it got crushed into the dirt, but for a year or so all sorts of bugs got to dance on the tools an' pretend.
thestringpuller: I think he spends too much time in front of a computer and not enough time sleeping with girls.
jborkl: yeah, the weekend btcst went bust it dropped to $8
mircea_popescu: it was oscilating aroudn there, at some point prior the pirate muppet was "going to ruin the price" while it went from low 6s to 7s.
mircea_popescu: that was some lulzy log
mircea_popescu: i dun recall which chan it was in tho, some pricewatchers something
thestringpuller: man i miss those days
mircea_popescu: i recall this one instance where i was going to buy some btc but the guy turned out to only have like 5 or so, and i was meh, for that much not worth my time going into paypal.
assbot: cornfeedhobo +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0
mircea_popescu: !up cornfeedhobo
mircea_popescu: this was during that dry summer when it stayed at 2.x
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu gmaxwell
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user gmaxwell: Level 1: -10, Level 2: 20 via 14 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=gmaxwell | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=gmaxwell | Rated since: Mon Jul 25 13:49:45 2011
thestringpuller: lol i think he is rated lower than magicaltux
cornfeedhobo: thestringpuller: he is trustworthy because someone doxxed him a while back. even posted pictures of his mom. I never got the sense that it was genuine, but i could be wrong.
mircea_popescu: who ?
thestringpuller: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu magicaltux
cornfeedhobo: danieldaniel
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user magicaltux: Level 1: -1, Level 2: -22 via 14 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=magicaltux | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=magicaltux | Rated since: Mon Dec 20 13:21:21 2010
mircea_popescu: is danielmom hot ?
cornfeedhobo: i dont recall
rithm: man o man\
rithm: all that text up above
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2014#958826 << somehow nobody goes "o look, mp paid 100s of btc so bitcoin financial space may exist" ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2014 22:14:11; jurov: http://trilema.com/2013/rota-post-mortem/ << Anduck see the discussion, it's mircea's and kako's sacrosanct right to arrange unprotected hole in the foyer with a sign "whatever falls here, is our property"
mircea_popescu: yet plenty of idiot muppets going "o noes, we tried to scam with 10 btc and it didn't work out like we wanted it to BLAME MP"
mircea_popescu: kinda why democracy is a fucking stupid idea. the only logical counterbalance to the common man's moral myopia is a solid grasp on the кнут.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu is the next great khan...
thestringpuller: khan of khans!
thestringpuller has been watching too much netflix
mircea_popescu: i imagine neflix goes gangbusters mid to late decvember
thestringpuller: that was a good radio program.
jborkl: thestringpuller, i watched four episodes last night.
jborkl: i was really bored
mircea_popescu: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=340 bwahahaha
assbot: #bitcoin-assets bash ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hx8fXl )
thestringpuller: jborkl: hit or miss right? my asian friend calls it "asian GoT without the dragons"
rithm: http://trilema.com/2013/rota-post-mortem/ i find personally offensive still
assbot: ROTA, post mortem. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hx8kKr )
rithm: perma-disagreement
jborkl: that is about right actually
rithm: afaik the rota thing was a mircea and wences setup
rithm: so everyone can blow me anyways
mircea_popescu: what's so offensive about it ? you had a chance to be like intelligent and prove the common man should have a voice.
mircea_popescu: you used it to prove the common man belongs silent.
mircea_popescu: either way, you know ? things should be what they are.
rithm: that's some sort of twisting of the facts. pay me to discuss it with you and I might.
rithm: i still have the full channel logs
kakobrekla: >The total damage steming from this latest naivity of mine is 150 BTC in owed salaries which become due in December < this was actually paid ?
mircea_popescu: what, trying to imply something's missing ? nothing's missing, it's all there.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla myeah.
kakobrekla: to whom?
mircea_popescu: to, for instance, rithm
rithm: i can look up the txid if you need
kakobrekla: he got 50?
mircea_popescu: iirc rassah didn't want it because he didn't think he had done anything
mircea_popescu: which i can respek.
rithm: i still haz it if you want it back
mircea_popescu: nop.
mircea_popescu: teh great lesson of bitcoinz : there's no backsies.
mircea_popescu: i never had any idea, but liek... teh most fundamentally humane thing actually is going "hey, try again"
mircea_popescu: that is about as unnatural as it gets.
rithm: i'm not sure how someone'e else lack of decision making skills and causality and what-not becomes my failure
rithm: but whatevs
kakobrekla: seems like im listed in the judge list as well. just ftr i did not receive any compensation for my non-work (as i was not involved in a case).
mircea_popescu: yeah you and a 2nd that never actually got to go on a jury didn't get anything. i think mebbe it was jurov ?
mircea_popescu: !up Elio20
mircea_popescu: anyway, better off this way, had the democratic delusions failed to explode we'd just have been belabouring under falsepremises for this interval mostl likely, wouldn't have the lordship list and the supremely valuable understanding of what hierarchy means in society and why equalitarianism is the fruit of the devil jacking off and so on.
mircea_popescu: or at least, i would have been.
rithm goes to kill himself
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: well just don't get arrested over freedom of speech lol << speech isn't really a freedom at that point is it?
mircea_popescu: quite.
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people noticed the subtle change from freedom of speech to an alleged "right" of free speech.
thestringpuller: http://www.livingstondaily.com/story/news/local/community/brighton/2014/12/21/cursing-teen-mill-pond-ignites-debate-freedom-speech/20745957/ << this guy
mircea_popescu: the difference between rights and freedoms being essentially the difference between pearl necklaces and dog collars.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller not bad.
mircea_popescu: in any case : a freedom is something the people have, and the state can't take away. the rights are constructions that the state gives, and so the state can take away.
mircea_popescu: trading a freedom for a right is always a bad deal.
mircea_popescu: and it's what generally happens whenever a state claims to be "protecting rights". it's not protecting anything, it's stealing freedom and issuing in its place token "rights". which, much like its paper currency, are fiat worthlessness.
thestringpuller: !up cornfeedhobo
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2014#958919 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-11-2014#924338 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2014 23:21:23; mike_c: <+Anduck> if you have nothing to contribute, you don't need to type anything here... k? << have you been in this channel before?
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 21:25:49; mircea_popescu: yes.
mike_c: it was more meant as a rebuttal to his comment. people who have nothing to contribute type in here often :) he was a glaring example.
mike_c: btw kakobrekla, i was thinking possible an easy solution to the whole problem of "negrated person won't leave" might be another command. like !recheck Anduck. then if his l2 is no good assbot boots him.
mircea_popescu: the link actually is to his previous bout of derping here
mike_c: it has been an issue at least once before
mircea_popescu: mike_c what's the delay currently, like 15 minutes ?
mike_c: i believe it's infinite
mircea_popescu: people still can /ignore for that short interval, what's teh big deal
mike_c: until the person parts
thestringpuller: mike_c: there will always be netsplits
mircea_popescu: nah, !down works once l2 trust is <1
kakobrekla: well, the delay is the duration of his connection, which isnt too bad considering this is freenode.
mike_c: no, !down doesn't work once l2 trust is <1
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: what am i missing ?!
joecool: who is L2 trust between, mp and user?
mike_c: assbot and user
mircea_popescu: ;;google assbot joecool
gribble: Rating Details for User 'assbot' - Bitcoin OTC: <http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=assbot&sign=ANY&type=SENT>; PREV: 17-04-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-04-2014>; NEXT: 14-03-2014 - #bitcoin-assets log: <http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2014>
mircea_popescu: i mean
mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot joecool
gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask joecool!~joecool@no-sources/joecool. Trust relationship from user assbot to user joecool: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=joecool | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=joecool | Rated since: Thu Apr 28 14:23:15 2011
mircea_popescu: !down joecool
mircea_popescu: oh because l1 ?
joecool: i guess
kakobrekla: mno.
mike_c: but regardless, it doesn't work. person has to part. this is why kako had to boot anduck manually.
mircea_popescu: speak the word of god kako. why is it ?
cazalla: austeritysucks: csgo items mostly <<< if ya ever come back, lemme know the site
kakobrekla: if you up yourself, nobody can down you for the session.
kakobrekla: the trust is checked on up only.
mircea_popescu: would it be hard to check on !down too ?
mircea_popescu: leaving a loophole there deliberately where someone with >1 l1 and 0 l2 can still voice themselves
mircea_popescu: but can also be devoiced whenever
mircea_popescu: then we can count how often this happens to de-l1 people.
kakobrekla: no the 'problem' is that if gribble hops and you reup you will be able to down everyone who has not reupped or some shit like that
mircea_popescu: is this a notable problem ?
joecool: gribble nor fleanode are exactly reliable
mircea_popescu: i mean, suppose you do that. so ? people can just reup outside of your control, all you achieve is piss off the wot list.
mircea_popescu: which... why ?
mike_c: yeah, that would likely only happen once.
kakobrekla: ill see what i can do.
mircea_popescu: i like when he says that.
mircea_popescu: usually it ends up a little later with "here's the thing we were talking about, except i built it inside a submarine just in case. and here's some beer i brewed and by the way, do you know candi and brandi ? they're twins."
mircea_popescu: bwahaha irrogant. bashed
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00063513 = 8.1297 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: alrighty, well, that was all for me today. hohoho an' merry xmas yo!
cazalla: !up austeritysucks
cazalla: meh, not auth'd, if someone else can up him in meantime
danielpbarron: !up bagels7
danielpbarron: !up austeritysucks
cazalla: austeritysucks, what's your csgo site?
austeritysucks: cazalla, i handle transactions through a subreddit and csgolounge
assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/224VP52.txt )
danielpbarron: !b 2 ✂︎
cazalla: do good volume? butterfly knives seem ideal means to go from fiat -> steam -> butterfly knife -> rmt -> bitcoin
cazalla: then flip it to someone who wants the knife for bitcoin, making a small btc profit
austeritysucks: eh its okay, hard to get people to reject paypal and go with btc
austeritysucks: paypal is horrible for digital goods though so it's a natural fit, just hard to get the community to adopt it
cazalla: yeah, get scammers offering to buy weapons using paypal all the time
cazalla: bitcoin is such a good fit for this
austeritysucks: im working on a btc/csgokey exchange
austeritysucks: since keys are used as the fixed currency to trade
cazalla: by cheaters and smurfs perhaps
austeritysucks: hm?
austeritysucks: its just that keys are used in the trade window, so they're the best "currency" to be used in trading higher value items
cazalla: ah soz, i was thinking cd keys not key keys
austeritysucks: to avoid 15% steamtax
cazalla: i think maybe you will see more of bitcoin in that as time goes on
austeritysucks: yea so my idea was instead of recreating the steam community market for bitcoin, just narrowing down to the keys would be simple to implement
austeritysucks: so people could buy keys for below store price in BTC and safely cash out their inventory to real cash by selling items for keys and selling keys on exchange
cazalla: dunno why uptake is so slow by gamers, i'd have killed for something like this back in everquest
austeritysucks: yea a charge-back free payment system is natural, but you see the typical excuses from people who refuse to adapt
austeritysucks: unfortunately credit cards all have chargeback, and until people can acquire bitcoins with creditcards at point of sale to remove the buyer from the "confusion" of the payment mechanism
austeritysucks: then there is this learning curve that nobody wants to climb
cazalla: give it time, it'll come i think
austeritysucks: there needs to be a reverse-bitpay :P
austeritysucks: but because of how credit cards work its really impossible to do it
austeritysucks: which is exactly how the monopolists want it
cazalla: i'm sure there are some kids who during bored summer holidays will figure out how to get bitcoin and buy/sell habbo items and shit like that
cazalla: so credit card issue isn't really a big one or steam monopoly etc
austeritysucks: no its the visa/mastercard monopoly
austeritysucks: a btc exchange for csgo keys is definitely doable
austeritysucks: but so many people will avoid using it because they can't acquire btc without bank transfer etc
cazalla: i don't follow, how does that bother me if i already have bitcoin and i want to buy/sell butterfly knives?
punkman: austeritysucks: https://www.payza.com/ this lets you receive CC payments and withdraw BTC, don't know anyone that uses them though
assbot: Payza | Send Money, Receive Payment, Money Transfer, Shop & Sell Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1CxBX02 )
cazalla: pretty easy to purchase small amount of btc now austeritysucks
austeritysucks: cazalla, the majority of people prefer paypal over bitcoin in the community unfortuantely, so the big issue is getting people to adopt bitcoin, i was suggesting that an easy way to promote adoption is to get people to be removed from the btc payment mechanism and have a userfirendl front end that is like using CC, but behind the scenes iti s buying BTC, transferring BTC (and maybe even
austeritysucks: BTC->fiat again for the seller)
punkman: yeah Circle works in a lot of countries
austeritysucks: cazalla, not with the way most people make such payments (cc)
austeritysucks: the minute there is any place that allows for simple cc buy of btc you will have lots of stolen cc's using the service to get btc
punkman: Circle is that place
cazalla: but that is not the buyer's problem
cazalla: i don't really give two shits if circle gets carded to death, i can buy with my own cc in the meantime
austeritysucks: punkman, is it a secret place? i google circle btc and get nothing
austeritysucks: oh nevermind i typo'd sorry
punkman: they are kinda retarded
punkman: https://www.circle.com/en
assbot: Circle Internet Financial | Bitcoin Wallet, Bitcoin Payments, Bitcoin Insurance ... ( http://bit.ly/1CxCIXc )
punkman: sends me 3 SMS every time I login/buy/withdraw
punkman: l33t security
austeritysucks: hm
austeritysucks: well ill look into it
austeritysucks: but for now i want to get the steam bot C# code working and then the front-end listings/btc purchase php stuff
austeritysucks: because i think if at least the key:btc exchange works with 1 steam bot then it will be easy to expand nad once expanded people will adopt BTC for the purpose of being able to cahs out to real money so drama-free
cazalla: maybe think a little further down the road and think of people wanting to cash out items to bitcoin instead of cash
cazalla: because that's is where that market will move anyway
austeritysucks: but i try my best to encourage people, set them up a hotwallet, shoot them $1 in btc or something ,and get their lips wet
austeritysucks: cazalla, yes that is what the focus is
austeritysucks: cazalla, and theres already many options for ppl to go btc to cash, that's not my concern.
austeritysucks: my concern was people going cash to BTC
austeritysucks: to use the exchange at all
cazalla: well, as punkman said, circle.. refer your customers there to get btc instead of paypal
punkman: this is pretty cool http://mattmahoney.net/dc/zpaq.html
assbot: ZPAQ ... ( http://bit.ly/1CxDZxh )
punkman: I'm thinking zpaq > gpg > rsync
danielpbarron: !up austeritysucks
austeritysucks: "At this time, bank accounts and credit cards from your country cannot be linked to Circle. Our apologies for the inconvenience. " :(
austeritysucks: coinbase however works in my country
cazalla: works here in australia too austeritysucks although a lot of people report otherwise
austeritysucks: cazalla, but yea i dont want to get horse in front of carriage i need to make this exchange system working better before i worry about expanding customers right
austeritysucks: cazalla, i've been using it to eliminate volatility in receiving btc payments
cazalla: i have things to do, nice talking austeritysucks
austeritysucks: so it has worked fine for me but i have yet to withdraw so i can't fully vouch
austeritysucks: ok have a good one cazalla you too
kakobrekla: punkman the less dependencies the better. (also saw this in bbet cli :)
punkman: this zpaq thing could almost fit in head
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2014#955217 < previously mentioned, is turd ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2014 02:31:07; punkman: backup with deduplication and gpg encryption http://obnam.org
kakobrekla: space is cheap anyway
punkman: https://attic-backup.org/ was also a contender, but I don't trust it
assbot: Welcome to Attic — Attic - Deduplicating Archiver 0.14 documentation ... ( http://bit.ly/13C7wXA )
punkman: space yes, bandwidth no
kakobrekla: eh?
punkman: I usually have around 2mbit upload
kakobrekla: backup to two different offsite servers
punkman: can't backup big stuff offsite
kakobrekla: wait you want to backup your local stuff to some internet server ?
punkman: well yeah, not unencrypted
kakobrekla: why not locally?
punkman: why not both?
kakobrekla: because you have 2mbit upload.
kakobrekla: i also dont do it. cause if have half of your upload and a few tb of stuff.
punkman: yeah but with deduplication/incrementals it's gonna work
punkman: you can ship TB drives to datacenter, then do incrementals
kakobrekla: well, you can also bounce it off the moon on the way to dc.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15957 @ 0.00066373 = 10.5911 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1038 @ 0.00120342 = 1.2491 BTC [-] {14}