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punkman: Pierre_Rochard: well you know one guy wants JSON, other guy wants CSV, make it so it's not hard to use something other than the default
punkman: Pierre_Rochard: I kinda like TOML
Pierre_Rochard: ah, I see, I'll add those options once I've shipped v0.1. Thank you for the idea
Pierre_Rochard: right now I'm setting it up so that other pacioli servers can import the invoices / purchase orders
punkman: Pierre_Rochard: will probably need something like this at some point: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pluginloader/0.1.3
assbot: pluginloader 0.1.3 : Python Package Index ... ( http://bit.ly/1F5WzJS )
Pierre_Rochard: ah, yes, this will come in handy
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 330918 | Current Difficulty: 4.03000303278914E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 332639 | Next Difficulty In: 1721 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 20 hours, 14 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 38887362841.3 | Estimated Percent Change: -3.50538
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46800 @ 0.00041957 = 19.6359 BTC [-] {2}
xanthyos: miss me?
xanthyos: i'm in extraordinary pain
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: Of course you were missed.
xanthyos: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B27NMbuCAAAxOKa.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1vuowMc )
xanthyos: in case anyone thinks i was faking
xanthyos: still wearing my hosp bracelet
xanthyos: can't take the gauze off my cock until saturday
xanthyos: probably will be scarred for life
BingoBoingo: Hopefully it is a cool scar
xanthyos: the surgeon's name was Richard Frink
xanthyos: dickfrink
xanthyos: he frinked my dick
BingoBoingo: lol, fucking urologists have the punniest names
xanthyos: i have vicodin
BingoBoingo: You prolly need it
xanthyos: the dilaudid they shot me up with was amazing
punkman: how did you break the thing anyway?
xanthyos: i can see why people ruin their lives for heroin
xanthyos: i have an ocd ritual of bending it back to pop it so it relaxes because if i orgasm i have anxiety as an aftereffect
xanthyos: clearly it was not a sustainable solution;.
BingoBoingo: I got hit with the dilaudid during ball crisis this spring.
xanthyos: they made it like it was something to be embarassed over
xanthyos: but i'm owning it
xanthyos: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=xanthyos&sign=ANY&type=RECV << nice none of you neg rated me for my TMI
assbot: Rating Details for User 'xanthyos' ... ( http://bit.ly/1F62639 )
BingoBoingo: Why would you be negged for being open about a cock crisis?
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/gavin-andresen-core-development-has-more-resources-than-ever-but-we-cant-pay-you/
assbot: Gavin Andresen: Core Development Has More Resources Than Ever! But We Can't Pay You | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1F62hLP )
xanthyos: because it's offtopic maybe, and speaks to my mental instability which could be seen as a reason to distrust, idk
cazalla: xanthyos, chicks dig scars.. why in pain though? i thought you guys can have as much oxy as one pleases there?
xanthyos: no
BingoBoingo: cazalla: That used to be the deal, but no more
xanthyos: i got 30 tablets of acetaminophen/oxy
xanthyos: 500 mg tylenol for 5 mg heroin
xanthyos: rough ratio, big pills
cazalla: xanthyos, share the love
punkman: I had surgery to remove a tricky wisdom toothonce and they sent me on my way with 2 paracetamol tablets
xanthyos: are you in the uk?
xanthyos: the socialist NHS has to cut costs somewhere, eh?
cazalla: punkman, weird eh, a gp gave me oxy for a sore neck
punkman: nah not UK, some shithole in south-east europe
xanthyos: albania?
punkman: I scrounged up some paracetamol+codeine tablets, worked out ok
cazalla: xanthyos, don't be playing with it while it heals too, 10 years no sex, i imagine maybe you get a bit furious with it at times
punkman: but I expected a bit more after the fuckers drilled into my jaw-bone or whatever
xanthyos: i masturbate as infrequently as possible but when i go i empty the thing
xanthyos: usually 4 consecutive orgasms
BingoBoingo: qntra takes criticism better than Verizon http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/11/verizons-widely-mocked-tech-news-site-hasnt-published-anything-in-weeks/
assbot: Verizon’s widely mocked tech news site hasn’t published anything in weeks | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1F63KSb )
ben_vulpes: <xanthyos> i have an ocd ritual of bending it back to pop it
ben_vulpes flaps hands in distress
punkman: hah
xanthyos: i'v ebeen doing it for 20 years and never had a problem til now
ben_vulpes: cannot unthink that
ben_vulpes: bending it back to pop...
ben_vulpes: i don't even know what you're *describing*
xanthyos: it feels good but i don't recommend it now tht i'ave had this experince
cazalla: i still don't follow how you "bend" or "pop" it xanthyos, please to be making an instructional video
xanthyos: no
xanthyos: it's like a knuckle
ben_vulpes flaps more
mod6: pop goes the weasel
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: It's actually a traditional think in Iran and Turkey. Also... Those regions lead the world in this sort of injury.
xanthyos: really?
BingoBoingo: Yeah
cazalla: maybe yours is different, i dunno, i don't think my cock is like my knuckles at all
xanthyos: the fucking MUSLIMS do it?
xanthyos: gross
punkman: dafuq
ben_vulpes: yeah
mircea_popescu: so here's a simple computing test for your platform. 1) open a 100mb text file. if your editor croaks, you're running windows. 2) go to the end and depress the pageup key. count to sixty / wait a full minute. depress the key. if the scroll stops immediately you are running good unix. if it keeps going... well...
kakobrekla: now that you cant bend to pop, mebbe you can pull to pop?
BingoBoingo: ;;google Taqaandan
gribble: Penile fracture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_fracture>; Findings | Harper's Magazine: <http://harpers.org/archive/2009/04/findings-4/>; Preventing penile fractures and Peyronie's disease - Los Angeles ...: <http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/09/health/la-hew-mating9-2009feb09>
xanthyos: all the computers in the hospital were running windows
kakobrekla: actually there are several text editors for windows that eat 100mb file like nothing
nubbins`: gvim!
xanthyos: http://gyazo.com/b227734dcbe41c605913af37b5a3b43d
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1F64O8D )
nubbins`: notepad++!
xanthyos: SFW^
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla jus' sayin
ben_vulpes: btw watched tinker tailor solider spy the other night
ben_vulpes: muchly enjoyable
punkman: playin with gpg sig combiner: http://dpaste.com/3WP2R9Q.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1F66sqZ )
punkman: .deed http://dpaste.com/3WP2R9Q.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1F66sY6 )
punkbot: punkman: Queued 1 valid deed for next bundle.
punkman: guess it works
punkman: just need to dearmor sigs, concatenate, armor again and it's good to go
BingoBoingo: !up elliot_
ben_vulpes: ;;google htop columns
gribble: Htop columns description | The sky's the limit: <http://chanmannlim.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/htop-columns-description/>; Ubuntu Manpage: htop - interactive process viewer: <http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/htop.1.html>; htop - Monitor Linux processes in real time (Real world Linux) - IBM: (1 more message)
ben_vulpes: wow i just briefly witnessed a server error in google
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: text editor experiment << when you build 'emacs', you can select 'use mmap for buffers' as a compile flag. ☟︎
asciilifeform: iirc, this is (for some perverse reason) not default under linux.
mircea_popescu: what does it use otherwise ?
mircea_popescu: systemd ?
asciilifeform: otherwise snarf the whole thing in
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00042897 = 5.5337 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: even so you know ?
mircea_popescu: 1% of avail memory, since when is that a problem
asciilifeform: since braindead allocators
mircea_popescu: kinda my point.
mircea_popescu: i'm not arguing something like "o, you know, there's no way around it". more like, "why the fuck should finding ways around it even be a consideration at all"
asciilifeform: starts out with innocent symptoms like this, end up like yours truly, ranting at hapless strangers about trinary logic made of muller's gates.
mircea_popescu: lol. i dun care how they implement it.
asciilifeform: sometimes, however, the gizmo cares how implemented. (consider the case of the airplane, which stubbornly resisted being powered by steam engine on account of the latter's poor power-to-mass ratio. etc)
asciilifeform: (exercise for student. can you posit a planet such that steam airplane - using reciprocating engine - functions there? gravity must be less than ours, but atmosphere dense enough to create lift at achievable speeds and propeller thrust)
asciilifeform: ^ nasty multivariable boojum
mircea_popescu: actually no, that planet does not exist.
mircea_popescu: do the energy calculation, friction vs lift.
asciilifeform: that's the answer i got, when this puzzle was given to me, yes
asciilifeform: but why spoil for n00bz
mircea_popescu: there's a limit to the smallest energy density that can fly, period, no matter any other considerations
mircea_popescu: well, what is this if not the intellectual rape channel ? that's what we do, we spoil noobs.
asciilifeform: l0l n00bz should sweat a bit, build muscle.
asciilifeform imagines that someone, somewhere, actually attempts his puzzles
mircea_popescu: (people that object readily to "oh but comets can fly and no engine there" be confused as to what "energy density" means. calculate v**2 for comet)
asciilifeform: well, for some value of 'fly' that is not simply an orbit
mircea_popescu: no, that's what i mean. for fly period.
asciilifeform: aha if you count kinetic e, trivially true
asciilifeform: by definition, lol
mircea_popescu: course you do
mircea_popescu: exactly :)
mircea_popescu is a fundamentals man.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu never leaves dynamite at home when going fishing
mircea_popescu: if you can fuck her with the cock, why use your finger ?
mircea_popescu: at least, that's what i feel about it.
asciilifeform: valid approach.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but in the same vein of "hard problems, if you're new here", you know the two trains and fly one im sure ☟︎
mircea_popescu: actually iirc it was stated here, mebbe last year.
asciilifeform: !s trains fly
assbot: 0 results for 'trains fly' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=trains+fly
mircea_popescu: ugh.
mircea_popescu: well anyway : two trains moving on the same track leave simultaneously 29 miles apart, one doing 5mph the other 7mp. a fly caugh between them flies straight until it reaches a train then turns back and recurses, doing 9mph. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: calculate total fly flown distance.
mircea_popescu: or we, 11 instead of 9, so it's prime too.
punkman: I heard an underwater dynamite explosion while diving once, almost shat myself
asciilifeform: distance flown == time to collision x fly speed.
asciilifeform: how else.
mircea_popescu: you could integrate it.
asciilifeform: but no reason to.
mircea_popescu: well there's no reason not to count e's either
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: :)
mircea_popescu: anyway, where i'm from it's traditionally given to 15-16yos taking their first year of analysis
mircea_popescu: so teachers can laugh at dumb fucking kids entrhalled with their new magic
cazalla: can someone load a post on their mobile and see if there is a big white gap between navbar and the post itself?
mircea_popescu: "you don't have to make yourself magic pork and beans just because you have a magic wand you ninny"
mircea_popescu: cazalla ipad count ?
asciilifeform: variation on ancient olympiad problem.
cazalla: yes
asciilifeform: incidentally, classic: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1110.1556.pdf
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1r2qDzF )
cazalla: mircea_popescu, does it look like this http://imgur.com/R6KHRw4 ?
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1r2qCvB )
asciilifeform: ^ sorry no ascii version, maths puzzles
mircea_popescu: cazalla tis fine. flashing gif mebbe a little distraction
cazalla: mircea_popescu, point of an advert yeah?
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: mebbe. arguably.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, load a post, not qntra.net itself
mircea_popescu: ah
mircea_popescu: nope.
cazalla: maybe it's just related to the ipad 2
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Maybe, Maybe ipad needs to go to chopshop to check for NSA?
asciilifeform: 'This is a special collection of problems that were given to select applicants during oral entrance exams to the math department of Moscow State University. These problems were designed to prevent Jewish people and other undesirables from getting a passing grade. Among problems that were used by the department to blackball unwanted candidate students, these problems are distinguished by having a simple solution ☟︎
asciilifeform: that is difficult to find. Using problems with a simple solution protected the administration from extra complaints and appeals.'
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. orthodox russian kids did find it ?
asciilifeform: nah
asciilifeform: it was problems to -give- to folks you needed to kick
mircea_popescu: oh oh
asciilifeform: in final rounds of an olympiad, judges select problems for the players individually
mircea_popescu: bs.
mircea_popescu: in romania that'd have never flied.
asciilifeform: well, that particular one
mircea_popescu: lol myeah i guess.
asciilifeform was not in it, only knows from historical source
cazalla: mircea_popescu, you should've seen the huge ass banner BingoBoingo put up before we settled on the box on sidebar :P
mircea_popescu: anyway, VERY flashy is, in my humble and unexpert experience, counterproductive. so is very large.
asciilifeform: (for n00bz: in honest olympiad, the puzzles are either same for all players, or come out of a hat)
mircea_popescu: this isn't THAT bad on either score.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, we discussed using text links either above/below each article as well, thoughts?
mircea_popescu: kinda meh.
mircea_popescu: if people want links let them go the original route, do something newsworthy. have a designated pr liaison and there you go.
cazalla: that won't keep the advert current once new news is posted
cazalla: text idea is that above or below an article, you have perhaps - sponsored name - blah blah come play mega dice win mega coins
cazalla: rather than big ass banner at top of site, which we tried earlier
cazalla: or better yet, we just scrap adverts all together and do trilema credits model
BingoBoingo thinks for now flashing square is fine. Lets people know someone was brave enough to advertise.
asciilifeform: (the original 'jewish puzzles' article quoted in earlier link: http://www.3038.org/press/shen.pdf )
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1r2sHru )
mircea_popescu: cazalla i get the idea, but i dun see that it's such a good idea, either for us or for them
mircea_popescu: maybe credits, but imo much too soon for that.
nubbins`: "Construct (with ruler and compass) a square given one point from each side."
mircea_popescu: nubbins` aka, diameter
mircea_popescu: there are of course a bunch of iterative solutions to this problem, but that's "with computer" not ruler&compass.
nubbins`: "Suppose A, B, C and D denote the points on the sides of the square, in order. Connect A and C. Draw a perpendicular from B to the segment AC. Let point D0 lie on the perpendicular given that the distance BD0 is the same as the length of AC. Then D0 belongs to the same side (or extension of the side) of the square as D. See Figure 14. Once we know from DD0 how the square is oriented, the rest is easy."
nubbins`: o.O
asciilifeform: if you can't 'draw' it in your head after reading this - drink less.
nubbins`: clever
mircea_popescu: quite.
asciilifeform: all the linked puzzles have this property.
asciilifeform: hence why they are memorable.
mircea_popescu: of course they do select for the best quality in mathematicians
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: which is, for lack of a different term, feminine guile.
asciilifeform: i prefer 'finesse'
mircea_popescu: as in pascal's esprit du finesse ?
asciilifeform: aha.
mircea_popescu: i dunno. shooting a deer with a single bullet is finesse. taming it is a different thing.
asciilifeform: taming - engineer.
mircea_popescu: im unconvinced.
mircea_popescu: "1. Treacherous cunning; skillful deceit."
mircea_popescu: how can you argue with that ? it's *exactly* what it is.
asciilifeform: finesse: convince deer to shoot himself in the head with one bullet.
mircea_popescu: not so.
mircea_popescu: finesse is the ability to make mayonaise by hand. a practice, anyone can be taught it.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, granted, the classical terminology is geometry & finesse.
BingoBoingo: Marketing though is making a hand with mayonaise
nubbins`: the invisible mayo
mircea_popescu: Différence entre l'esprit de géométrie et l'esprit de finesse. - En l'un, les principes sont palpables, mais éloignés de l'usage commun ; de sorte qu'on a peine à tourner la tête de ce côté-là, manque d'habitude : mais, pour peu qu'on l'y tourne, on voit les principes à plein; et il faudrait avoir tout à fait l'esprit faux pour mal raisonner sur des principes si gros qu'il est presque impossible qu'ils éch
mircea_popescu: appent.
mircea_popescu: Mais, dans l'esprit de finesse, les principes sont dans l'usage commun et devant les yeux de tout le monde. On n'a que faire de tourner la tête, ni de se faire violence; il n'est question que d'avoir bonne vue, mais il faut l'avoir bonne; car les principes sont si déliés et en si grand nombre, qu'il est presque impossible qu'il n'en échappe. Or, l'omission d'un principe mène à l'erreur; ainsi, il faut avoir la vu
mircea_popescu: e bien nette pour voir tous les principes, et ensuite l'esprit juste pour ne pas raisonner faussement sur des principes connus.
mircea_popescu: Tous les géomètres seraient donc fins s'ils avaient la vue bonne, car ils ne raisonnent pas faux sur les principes qu'ils connaissent; et les esprits fins seraient géomètres s'ils pouvaient plier leur vue vers les principes inaccoutumés de géométrie.
mircea_popescu: this is imo a major contribution to western thought.
asciilifeform: no shit.
asciilifeform: incidentally, imho one of the best ways to learn about the character of someone you recently met, is to watch him solve puzzle.
mircea_popescu: no shit & no homo!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's why women invented dating.
asciilifeform: (or her!)
BingoBoingo: !up WolfGoethe
nubbins`: !up menahem
nubbins`: american apparel products have a superior printing surface
mircea_popescu: i shall file this nugget away in my archives of data.
nubbins`: (translation: "this conversation is logged")
BingoBoingo: !up Dr-G2
BingoBoingo: !up Dr-G3
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
Vexual: hi, how goes the qntra.net traffic?
mircea_popescu: "Congratulation, Transfer $50,000 has been today transferred the account, attached is the transfer copy ( proof of payment) for your view."
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Was poor yesterday, prolly because DNS DDoS
mircea_popescu: shit, if only the transfer weren't a zipfile, i could be 50k richer
asciilifeform: first national spam bank is best bank.
mircea_popescu: ugh, is quantcast down ?
BingoBoingo: https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net
BingoBoingo: Quantcast is slow.
mircea_popescu: well... if they're slow altogether like serving the js that may also account.
mircea_popescu: anyway, check it out, 248k round!
BingoBoingo: Yeah, Top Quarter million bitches!
mircea_popescu: internet's 1%!
nubbins`: Vexual http://mopey.bandcamp.com/track/supply-and-demand
assbot: Supply and Demand | Mopey ... ( http://bit.ly/1uNrABl )
thestringpuller: !up menahem
Vexual: did i read correctly qntra has actual income now?
BingoBoingo: Vexual: Not yet. We are playing with the idea of a single ad
Vexual: ah cool
mircea_popescu: wait so it's free ?
decimation: asciilifeform: did you see this: http://christophe.rhodes.io/notes/blog/posts/2014/reproducible_builds_-_a_month_ahead_of_schedule/ << not being a lisp guy, I find it mystifying
assbot: reproducible builds - a month ahead of schedule ... ( http://bit.ly/1uNs5eG )
BingoBoingo: Mostly to get an idea of what we find acceptable for ads, when we start getting solicitations for other ads
asciilifeform: decimation: what's the mystery here?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's a revenue share thing, dunno its been up long enough to get clicked yet
Vexual: quantcast says your traffic is largely wealthy educated asians, thats some quality traffic
BingoBoingo: I know.
mircea_popescu: Vexual and politically active, non partisan, mega rich mega educated folk.
asciilifeform: decimation: 'sbcl' is a compiler. (a very spiffy compiler, that you can generally use in precisely the same ways folks used primitive interpreter-only lisps, but still a compiler.)
mircea_popescu: it's pretty much distilled trendsetters over there, no hipsters allowed.
asciilifeform: quantcase << i always wondered, where do these figures come from? sheep entrails?
asciilifeform: *quantcast
BingoBoingo: Prolly. Maybe from reading Angry Ram's turds
cazalla: mircea_popescu: wait so it's free ? <<< lol yes, not a paid placement, this is more a test anyway
mircea_popescu: you buncha shrewed negotiators you :D
BingoBoingo: Oh, wait till the Minzors approach with offers
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i shall not dispute "statistics" that wildly favour my position.
cazalla: well, this is why i told Namworld to speak with you and that he did and was promptly sent back to me
decimation: yeah I get the fact that it is a compiler, but why would you want to use it to compile itself and then use the compiler to recreate the target lisp?
cazalla: the one advert makes it look like million dollar homepage so we may as well go full throttle now
asciilifeform: decimation: this was printed on the crate! determinism.
mircea_popescu: lol temperance my good man, is the whorish mother of all riches.
asciilifeform: decimation: also the argument that no programming system is really 'adult' unless it can swallow its own tail without gagging.
decimation: yeah this test automatically fails C and its descendants
BingoBoingo: Well, ad nao has more modest sidebar placement. Don't want to seem like too cheap a hooker when second potential advertiser wants to negotiate
asciilifeform: decimation: nah. very basic test. 'c' builds with self.
decimation: but can it synthesize c after compiling? I suppose it could
asciilifeform: decimation: this one wasn't self-comprehension or any 'fancy' magic of the sort. just elementary question of 'does x compiler build with self'
decimation: ah okay, I was thinking the former
asciilifeform: ;;isup trilema.com
gribble: trilema.com is up
asciilifeform: ;;isup down
gribble: down is up
asciilifeform: ^
mircea_popescu: lolsrsly ?
decimation: ;;isup what
gribble: what is up
cazalla: qntra down here for me too
asciilifeform: same.
cazalla: decimation, got any supdog?
decimation: hehe
thestringpuller: did qntra just go down?
thestringpuller: still up for me
mircea_popescu: i see it too, who's to know.
mircea_popescu: !up alevin
decimation: down for me
TomServo: same here
mircea_popescu: TomServo decimation is this a matter of you not resolving the domain ? what's dig qntra.net say ?
punkman: I lol'd http://pastebin.com/zBWAX6Q7
decimation: let me try
TomServo: resolves to
decimation: yeah resolves the same here
mircea_popescu: that'd be correct. hum.
cazalla: fuck it, i'm over it, gonna put a rabbit in the pan
BingoBoingo: Not the black one yet, May need more pics for Qntra branding
mircea_popescu: lol
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
BingoBoingo: I mean look at that twitter avatar https://twitter.com/qntra
assbot: Qntra (@qntra) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1uNsHkm )
mircea_popescu: well i dunno about you good folk, but various wp comment spammers still manage to dutifully connect, propose their post crud, get the required 500 and so on.
BingoBoingo: Yeah they do
mircea_popescu: lol location @la serenissima, nice
mircea_popescu: "The Bitcon Fundation cant pay for what it needs because it has 57.875 BTC left from 5,878.222 BTC raised."
mircea_popescu: ahahaha epic.
asciilifeform: nah, 5000 but reserved for coke.
mircea_popescu: "why mp keep saying vessenes be stealing!!!! mp is such bad!!!"
mircea_popescu: "o noes vessenes stoled!! WHO COULD HAS PREDIKT!!!"
mircea_popescu: "clearly bitcoin needs moar technologiez! brb making shartup"
mircea_popescu: it gets so old this shit...
Vexual: ;;seen jurov
gribble: jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 31 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <jurov> lol The20YearIRCloud you'll soon get sizable chunk of ohio
Vexual: sounds cokey
mircea_popescu: ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com
gribble: log.bitcoin-assets.com is up
mircea_popescu: well it's down for me, parallel universes.
kakobrekla: O_o
mircea_popescu: nao it loaded.
kakobrekla: didnt do anything
BingoBoingo: OMG NSA, let's burn the computers and teletype baudot on the 160 meter band
mircea_popescu: you winked didn'tcha ?
kakobrekla: no i was still O_O
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: got the poster nubbins << no fucking way, i had so much $$$ riding against this!11
mircea_popescu: *: TomServo ducks. << yes.
TomServo: heh
mircea_popescu: otherthings would also apply, but that's aside.
BingoBoingo: !up RetroUpriser
mircea_popescu: heh i mean "yes would apply". not that ducking's bad policy generally.
mircea_popescu: MissShibe: Hi all, if anyone has lost money in Moolah / Cryptsy we are working on a class action lawsuit against Ryan Kennedy. <<< because "class action" suits exist for the purpose of allowing a bunch of derps to not have to pay anything in civil claims against individuals now.
mircea_popescu: that's TOTALLY how that works.
mircea_popescu: "your honor, we seek class action status for our suit here" "who is the defendant ?" "some guy"
mircea_popescu: judge falls over.
xanthyos: ;;rate alevin 2 Known thorugh EFNet channels nearly a decade. "Seinfeld" expert. Buddhism aspirant.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user alevin has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: there can be no other seinfeld expert! who is this challenger!
Vexual: hey, we got al jolson here!
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell missshibe hey, maybe instead of a class action suit against random bankrupt derp, you could organise a comet landing against him ? at least it'd be a novel novelty item...
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Vexual: what the fuck even is moolah?
kakobrekla: buddhism is scam wiht nice css
asciilifeform: moolah << chumpatronium
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla no it's not, i met tons of bangin' buddhist chicks.
kakobrekla: bangin.
Vexual: yeah, but you read the old languages
mircea_popescu: it's legit pizdolosophy.
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asciilifeform: !b 1 ✂︎
danielpbarron: ;;rate alevin 2 boring mental case that fetishizes abstinence
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kakobrekla: jesus is also scam
kakobrekla: but with poor css
Vexual: about this wide
kakobrekla ducks for the rocks
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Jesus wasn't a scam till Peter and Paul got into a fight over marketing and royalties. made good tables.
BingoBoingo: A++ Carpenter
kakobrekla: hehe
mircea_popescu: i hear his tables were leanin'.
BingoBoingo: Well, he had to break them in with Ms Magadaline
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B27NMbuCAAAxOKa.jpg << dude got a decent beard.
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xanthyos: thanks
BingoBoingo: So interesting advertising match made in hell I spotted on the interwebz. Gawker Media and Weatherby rifles.
mircea_popescu: ahahaah
mircea_popescu: punkman: nah not UK, some shithole in south-east europe << wait srsly ?! i always figured you for a brit.
mircea_popescu: what shithole, like bulgaria ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously behold the liberals shilling for botique rifle http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/how-math-makes-smaller-bullets-deadlier-1627307057
assbot: The Simple Math of Why Smaller Bullets Are Deadlier ... ( http://bit.ly/1z089nL )
punkman: mircea_popescu: griechenland
mircea_popescu: *: ben_vulpes flaps more << i have nfi what he's on about either, if that helps anything.
mircea_popescu: punkman i thought greece was all cool and shit.
punkman: that was a long time ago
mircea_popescu has known 3 greek chicks. splendid butts, each of 'em.
Vexual: aesthetic skills never lost
BingoBoingo: Greeks get their butts from Armenia
mircea_popescu: i thought turkey.
Vexual: calamari skills too
mircea_popescu: the turks reproduced through anal intercourse with their womenz for all of the renaissance
mircea_popescu: and so they... adapted ?
asciilifeform: 'a woman - for duty, a boy - for pleasure, but a melon - for ecstasy.' -- turkish proverb
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Turks got their butts from Armenia too, that's why they had to genocide the men
mircea_popescu has never had armenian butts.
punkman: poor armenians
BingoBoingo: Isn't that what Kim is
mircea_popescu: well yeah but how did i have kim.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wait, a melon what, stabbed threateningly ?
decimation: I got a qntra page with a link
asciilifeform: porked vigorously
mircea_popescu: what url were you loading ?
asciilifeform wasn't there, did not see proverb in action
decimation: qntra.net
decimation: the home page
mircea_popescu: o.O
decimation: it could have been malformed I suppose
decimation: eh?
mircea_popescu: i bet you thought you were pretty smart didja! but your gig is up nao!!
kakobrekla: same here btw
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, for some reason it thinks you're molesting it.
kakobrekla: i think it cached locally
kakobrekla: decimation try http://qntra.net/a
assbot: Qntra.net | Bitcoin News, Views & Commentary ... ( http://bit.ly/1z0adfr )
decimation: can't get there now
mircea_popescu: i get what assbot said, http://qntra.net/2014/10/a-free-bitcoin-atm-machine-for-suitable-hosts/
assbot: A Free* Bitcoin ATM Machine For Suitable Hosts | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1z0akaJ )
decimation: the only reason I noticed is because noscript fired off something
decimation: yeah it is something in my browser cache
decimation: on one computer when I try to go to qntra.net the "ABE" noscript warning pops up blocking a get to
decimation: instantly (from cache)
decimation: on another computer it just hangs
kakobrekla: anyway /a works here
mircea_popescu: decimation it redirects what it considers hostile traffix to
mircea_popescu: obviously it shouldn't trigger like that.
decimation: interesting
decimation: ah now it just came up (/a) without the error
decimation: maybe I was hitting reload too many times
mircea_popescu: it's an approximation not a science this thing.
decimation: indeed.
TomServo: I'm getting it also.
punkman: I wonder if banning datacenter/cloud/etc IPs would work
mircea_popescu: anyway, typical usecase is : Host: / Http Code: 301Date: Nov 20 23:05:07Http Version: HTTP/1.1Size in Bytes: 225 Referer: - Agent: WordPress/3.9.1; http://offpre.rmutp.ac.th; verifying pingback from
kakobrekla: yes kako saves the day
nubbins`: sweet
nubbins`: this is better than free condoms
kakobrekla: see ddoser now ddos /a
kakobrekla: dont worry idiot, we will just use /b
mircea_popescu: lmao wut ?
asciilifeform just lost all 4 ccfl tubes in favourite lcd
asciilifeform: ferfuckssake.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did you try to melon them ?
decimation: sucks
nubbins`: c'est un bummer
asciilifeform: if 8+ yrs of 14h/d burn is 'meloning' - yes.
decimation: replaces with high-intensity blue led, never sleep again
BingoBoingo is now reaping the rewards of most badass candle upgrade ever
mircea_popescu: decimation i had to tape over the fucking display lights on my ac here
mircea_popescu: because it's new, and these idiots with the leds are like out of fucking control in their quest for laser beams.
decimation: yeah I can 'see' blue leds through my closed eyes
nubbins`: ^
mircea_popescu: it shone right through 3-4 layers of ductape
decimation: in the sense that they disturb my sleep
nubbins`: lose the quotes off the see
BingoBoingo: Blue light will make you go blind
mircea_popescu: eventually i taped a businesscard in there. 1/16th inch of cardboard did it.
decimation: there are many studies coming out that tend to point to blue light exposure as being really bad for sleep
nubbins`: i've got a small 12-channel mixer i use for live shows that I had to putty over the power led (blue)
asciilifeform: it being indicator for 'daylight' - yes, bad sleep
nubbins`: literally so bright you couldn't read the knobs on a dark stage
thestringpuller: lol nubbins` i'm framing your poster
nubbins`: atta boy
nubbins`: it's a special one
thestringpuller: special edition
thestringpuller: it has to flatten out first
nubbins`: no doubt
thestringpuller: good quality though. it'll go in the office
mircea_popescu: ;;google i am the great cornholio
gribble: "I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO!" - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5LseNXvG80>; Beavis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beavis>; Urban Dictionary: cornholio: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cornholio>
mircea_popescu: somehow never gets old.
thestringpuller: YES!!!!!!!!!!
thestringpuller: Gimme t-p for my bungholio
thestringpuller: never would take you for a beavis and butthead fan mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: why not ?
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/mA3Jknc << upper right hand corner - gone.
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asciilifeform: and it'll be a bitch to swap. like disassembling a pipe organ.
mod6: let's go over to stewert's houes and break stuff
thestringpuller: ^^^
thestringpuller: todd is so cool!
decimation: asciilifeform: replace with trinitron!
mircea_popescu: one day termites came to asciilifeform's house
mircea_popescu: but then they gazed upon his great architectural achievements
mircea_popescu: and left in shame.
asciilifeform: decimation: i'd love to replace all 4 with trinitrons. but gave up after the umpteenth 'yes i promise it isn't burnt' and faded tube.
decimation: heh yeah
asciilifeform: decimation: virginal trinitrons may be extinct.
decimation: I dumped my mostly burnt one in the local dump years ago
kakobrekla: i gave away mine.
kakobrekla: was still ok
mircea_popescu: punishment for your soul ?
kakobrekla: me? i did worse things.
asciilifeform just dug out a 'radiforce g21' from emergency stash, but fears it may be too heavy for the hoist
asciilifeform: !up Vexual
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or5zA-shiFU
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mircea_popescu: clearly, mike judge invented buttcoins.
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decimation: asciilifeform: you should buy a stack of plasma displays
decimation: if they even make them anymore
asciilifeform: decimation: so it can fade in six months? yuck.
mircea_popescu: if you talk him into building his own vacuum tube i'm like negging you.
decimation: hehe
decimation: asciilifeform: today I was in usb driver hell, and then something occurred to me
decimation: are you going to pay the $5k fee for a vid/pid for cardano?
asciilifeform: phun phact. symbolics corp. had to contract to have tubes blown specially for lisp machine, as properly high-res crt was not available off the shelf
asciilifeform: 1270x951, iirc.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Samsung plasma monitors sold as TV's seem to have good longevity. Just need to sit at a distanc
asciilifeform: sold as tv -> triangular pixels -> yuck
decimation: I'm not sure they make plasma displays meant for computer
asciilifeform: decimation: 5k fee >> what do you think.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I know the answer I was just taunting you
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decimation: I think ftdi will give you a pid off of their vid if you use their chip
asciilifeform: decimation: what do you think the answer to that is.
decimation: would never use shitgnomery
asciilifeform: cardano vid/pid - user-configurable. put that in pipe & smoke it.
decimation: lol
mircea_popescu: ^
decimation: Imma gonna use microsoft
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we might get sued!
xanthyos: http://www.psy.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/rotsnake7.gif << it's not really the gif that's animated, it's your brain.
Vexual: im frightened of the filename
asciilifeform: user recommended to use vid from defunct co.
asciilifeform: or favourite chinese crapflash.
decimation: here's a shopping list http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1xY6CA8 )
asciilifeform: decimation: phun phact about that list. i've mailed them pid/vids from devices not seen therein (legit, golden toilets) and it was never included.
decimation: here's the official tollbooth http://www.usb.org/developers/vendor/
assbot: USB.org - Getting a Vendor ID ... ( http://bit.ly/1xY6OiW )
decimation: $5k one time, or for you today, $4k per year!
cazalla: mr rabbit in rabbit form http://imgur.com/Qp0b6Fj do you see?! mr rabbit changing, reborn! http://imgur.com/6ojymOu do you see?!
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1xY6Qar )
assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer ... ( http://bit.ly/1xY6RLE )
decimation: asciilifeform: I wonder if the linux-usb guys only accept 'official' pids
asciilifeform: decimation: official ?
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Ok, Mr Red Dragon
decimation: paid $5k
asciilifeform: decimation: ah but it was.
cazalla: BingoBoingo, i only wish i had tomatoes :\
asciilifeform: decimation: just one not featured in the list, because afaik i was the first to ever plug the damn thing into a linux box
asciilifeform: and possibly no one has since.
asciilifeform: (device was a 'tecan evo 200')
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I kind of wish you would have cooked it in a little rabbit wheelchair like Phillip Seymore Hoffman
decimation: yeah, they probably just didn't believe you
asciilifeform: ;;google tecan evo 200
gribble: Freedom EVO® - Tecan: <http://www.tecan.com/freedomevo>; Freedom EVO - Specifications - Tecan: <http://www.tecan.com/handler.asp?Id=2696>; Freedom EVO - Pictures - Tecan: <http://www.tecan.com/platform/apps/picturegallery/index.asp?MenuID=2697&ID=5275&Menu=1&Item=>
decimation: wireshark usb sniffing is very handy I've discovered as well
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform neglected to tell the surprising part of the dead lcd story - that replacing a side screen is a royal bitch on account of virtually all extant lcd being worthless in terms of poor vertical view angle tolerance
punkman: I want one of those square LCDs EIZO announced
BingoBoingo: Plasma
punkman: http://www.maximumpc.com/eizos_square_shaped_flexscan_ev2730q_monitor_features_1920x1920_resolution
assbot: Eizo's Square Shaped FlexScan EV2730Q Monitor Features a 1920x1920 Resolution | Maximum PC ... ( http://bit.ly/1xY7DrW )
BingoBoingo: Only 720p, but... move the wall back
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BingoBoingo: And yes, moving the wall further back is prolly more cost effective than finding an adequate monitor
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/h0d3r
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decimation: asciilifeform: is that why you flip them vertically (better horizontal view angle)?
decimation: BingoBoingo: I like the 1:1 aspect ratio
decimation: I note that it is more popular on many tech forums to openly discuss ditching linux in favor of a 'unix' clone
decimation: for some reason no one brings up solaris very often
BingoBoingo: Solaris intoduces hell often trying to hunt drivers for a civilian machine
BingoBoingo: !up devthedev
devthedev: I love this president
BingoBoingo: lol
BingoBoingo: So did he really say learn English and go to the back of the line?
BingoBoingo: !up Blazedout419
BingoBoingo: !up Blazedout420
asciilifeform: is that why you flip them vertically << ideally they'd all be vertical. nothing to do with angle, you've the causality reversed.
decimation: because vertical real estate is more useful than horizontal?
asciilifeform: aha.
asciilifeform: the array, naturally, is shaped a little like a titanic horizontal display (to match visual field of eyes)
asciilifeform: but you can't get the solid equivalent
asciilifeform: (not even for $maxint. where do you get bent display?)
asciilifeform: and i seriously don't get people who suggest 'use tv'. are they using computer with tv? if not, why not? and why eager to suggest to others.
decimation: tvs have terrible resolution
decimation: I use tv for computer display
decimation: but it's in the living room and is a media computer
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/officers-again-make-arrests-at-protest-outside-ferguson-police-hq/article_de7daf03-5747-5a9f-88e8-e64c548be7aa.html
assbot: Officers again make arrests at protest outside Ferguson police HQ : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1xYbipN )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: TV has use cases
asciilifeform: not involving computer.
asciilifeform: or text
punkman: ;;google lg curved monitor
gribble: LG 34UC97-S: 34" Class 21:9 UltraWide™ WQHD IPS Curved LED ...: <http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34UC97-S-ultrawide-monitor>; LG 34UC97-S 34" UltraWide QHD Curved LED Backlit LCD Monitor: <http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1083446-REG/lg_34uc97_s_34_3440x1440_ips_curved.html>; LG 34UC97 34" Curved LCD Monitor - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcaktV1iiGk>
asciilifeform: yes, there was a time when we have 'commodore 64' or 'bk-0010' and tv out, and that was it.
devthedev: See everyone in a week
mircea_popescu: not since the z80 days anywya
BingoBoingo: devthedev: Where you headed, Cuba?
devthedev: https://twitter.com/DevinSenaUI/status/534733650349535233
assbot: I'm taking pictures in some sweet places next week! Saturday- Ft. LauderdaleMonday- HaitiTuesday- JamaicaThursday- MexicoSunday- Miami
asciilifeform: punkman: if that thing came in a double-height variant i'd buy
BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-officer-s-lawyer-union-official-say-ap-story-on/article_214c7eee-5729-5b2a-bf1c-a16a0f17cb68.html << latest on whether spark meets tinder
assbot: Ferguson officer's lawyer, union official, say AP story on grand jury confidence was misleading : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1xU9oW4 )
asciilifeform: except i'd probably end up throwing it through a wall on account of vibrating pixels
BingoBoingo: devthedev: If you ever want practice killing people, Mexico is prolly the place to do it. Huge security issues, but they'll never mention it
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah most 'hdtv' 'monitors' use all kinds of downsampling/downconversion tricks
asciilifeform: afaik everything presently on the market, with exception of eizo's 'colour-edge' series, uses dithering.
asciilifeform: (vs. none whatsoever 6 yrs. ago!)
asciilifeform: iirc we spoke of this here at least once.
BingoBoingo: Plasma TV I think of considering this problem was acquired 8 years ago
asciilifeform: fuck dithering hard, with red hot poker.
asciilifeform can see the led blinkers on cars in traffic, which 'no one can see', it's a torment
BingoBoingo: Eh, these candles warming the room dither
asciilifeform: the pulse flicker thereof, rather
decimation: dithering works great if you want to suppress spurs on an adc
asciilifeform: works great for folks who have properly slow retina
BingoBoingo: There are reasons I drink.
asciilifeform has somewhat perverse senses. for example, 'amazon kindle' is fairly loud to him when flipping pages.
asciilifeform: (model 'dx' with the rev. 2 black chassis, if anyone wants to compare notes)
asciilifeform: inductor hiss.
decimation: I definite hear something when I flip mine but I think I have the smaller model
asciilifeform: aha so not only me!
BingoBoingo: !up Vexual
BingoBoingo: I think the efficent problem at the moment is that no one but foxconn makes anything anymore
decimation: inductor microphonics are the bane of anyone trying to make a very stable rf circuit
BingoBoingo: I listen to AM radio all of the time, but I'm still not sure I believe in stable RF circuits
asciilifeform: like 'stable' governments, or marriages, the stability spoken of here is comparative.
Vexual: I can see tailights flicker
asciilifeform: there we go.
asciilifeform not the only mutant!
BingoBoingo: https://www.xkcd.com/1450/
assbot: xkcd: AI-Box Experiment ... ( http://bit.ly/1xYdihM )
Vexual: I also know when my favourite song is on the radio tho
BingoBoingo: Wait, are tail lights not supposed to flicker?
decimation: asciilifeform: have you ever had one of those occupational hearing tests?
Vexual: no, theyre not
asciilifeform: decimation: occupational, no, but did as a child. passed.
asciilifeform: afaik they're built to detect deaf folks, rather than insufficiently deaf
decimation: I've had a few as adult, and I found that I passed if I breathed through my mouth - breathing through my nose was too noisy
mats_cd03: yes, they suck. i am partially deaf due to too many explosions without earpro
BingoBoingo: What's next? The power led on the laptop isn't supposed to blink at F2#
mats_cd03: i can still hear the beeps ... of other participants, even. the test doesn't measure intensity afaik
mircea_popescu: <decimation> I've had a few as adult, and I found that I passed if I breathed through my mouth - breathing through my nose was too noisy <<< if breathing through your nose is noisy you should prolly have it fixed
decimation: yeah, actually I've been told I have a deviated septum
decimation: but the point is that apparently it sets a 'noise floor' for low lever signals
Vexual: do a beat box
Vexual: when ledtailights flicker, you can almost see which way the calbing runs
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BingoBoingo: !b 1 ✂︎
Vexual: audi and toyota use different drivers
decimation: some cars in the us have a 'flicker' mechanism built into the tail lights which I find highly annoying
BingoBoingo: !up angles
Vexual: i like my flasher under the dash
Vexual: that way i've got a story ready for when i get pulled over
Vexual: "yeah I know it's borked..."
Vexual: 6v stuffs always blowing, it's the amplitude modulations, see?
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Vexual: sir, this is a prime mover.
Vexual: ciao
Vexual: *crunch*
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Vexual: must be the voltage regulator
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-gui-the-twerk-and-the-most-valuable-resource/
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mircea_popescu: you get to guess the op.
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: nurse's article: http://www.bards.ru/archives/part.php?id=15568 << obligatory. vysotsky's 'doctor reanimator.'
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1AqTXbB )
mircea_popescu: somehow not on http://www.kulichki.com/vv/eng/songs/
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1AqUXMN )
asciilifeform: not 1 in 10 has a known english
decimation: Liberté, égalité, fraternité!
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: !up MykelSIlver
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'Girl under a train - they sometimes fumble, / She might cry hysterically, or no; / You can hear Reanimator mumble: / 'Please give up your ghost, my dearest, go!' / Lifetime as a cripple? Who will feed you? / Even could I do a bloody thing? / Tell me, dearest, who you think will need you, / Without legs, and without everything?' << approx. partial transl.
mircea_popescu: who fumbles and what's that mean ?
mircea_popescu: like, derpy chick falls by accident ?
asciilifeform: ehe
asciilifeform: or 'accident'
asciilifeform might write a real translation if he were awake, sober, and anyone gave half a damn
mircea_popescu: actually 4 way amputee chicks is a shiockingly large fetish
asciilifeform: 4 way plus their 'everything's?
mircea_popescu: http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2011-07-30/1311996360899.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1AqYAlK )
asciilifeform: cock-arms ?
asciilifeform: (or just plain thalidomide ? experts, chime in)
mircea_popescu: that's the flipper arms thalidomide brought about
asciilifeform: aha, guessed as much
mircea_popescu: in other news, the chan4chan webiste donation address ? https://blockchain.info/address/1KaHdHYgYUDUYuMYCXLu83gXuniZMiSMhb
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mircea_popescu: collected 0.101 btc in its lifetime. all of which in 2013.
notary: Confirmed bundle 18xnKTfE with 1 deed | http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/bundle/18xnKTfEe8bQRu5Qh8mvPte1wPFeXQ55az
assbot: Bundle 18xnKTfE | #bitcoin-assets deed registry ... ( http://bit.ly/1uhyGso )
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2014/11/us-department-of-justice-kim-dotcom-cant-challenge-asset-forfiture/ < BingoBoingo it's spelled "forfeiture" you know.
assbot: US Department of Justice: Kim Dotcom can't challenge asset forfiture | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xIMNyb )
mircea_popescu: http://www.10news.com/news/rapper-tiny-doo-will-go-to-trial_
assbot: Rapper Tiny Doo will go to trial, judge decides - 10News.com KGTV ABC10 San Diego ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1e6kk )
mircea_popescu: "Though Duncan hasn't been tied to the shootings, prosecutors argued that he benefited from the shootings because his gang gained in status, allowing him to sell more albums."
mircea_popescu: this is so fucking out there....
mircea_popescu: here's a thought : preet bharara benefited from the shootings, because HIS gang gained in status, allowing him to sell more whatever the fucks he's selling.
mircea_popescu: he should be in jail with duncan.
mircea_popescu: "We're not just talking about a CD of anything, of love songs. We're talking about a CD (cover) … there is a revolver with bullets," said Deputy District Attorney Anthony Campagna.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28003 @ 0.00041998 = 11.7607 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: in other news, qntra seems to look pretty good : http://browsershots.org/http://qntra.net/
assbot: Page not found | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xINHLd )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53575 @ 0.000422 = 22.6087 BTC [+]
cazalla: mircea_popescu, fixed typo so dw BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: coo
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00042813 = 11.1528 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35123 @ 0.00042813 = 15.0372 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53750 @ 0.00041992 = 22.5707 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20904 @ 0.00043091 = 9.0077 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00041861 = 12.4746 BTC [-]
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/ben-bernanke-mervyn-king-share-their-thoughts-on-bitcoin/
assbot: Ben Bernanke & Mervyn King Share Their Thoughts On Bitcoin | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vvO9MF )
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.09700427 = 1.3581 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.00041451 = 6.2591 BTC [-]
davout: http://fr.anco.is/2014/11/21/x-eur-november-20th-2014-statement/
assbot: X.EUR November 20th 2014 statement | fr.anco.is ... ( http://bit.ly/1yyosYT )
davout: pankkake disappeared, and with him penguirker :/
jurov: there's supposed to be scoopbot
jurov: ;;seens scoopbot
gribble: Error: "seens" is not a valid command.
jurov: ;;seen scoopbot
gribble: scoopbot was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 7 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <scoopbot> New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/isis-introduces-coins/
jurov: :/
BingoBoingo: scoopbot has growing pains
jurov: did he too broke his penis or what?
BingoBoingo: Maybe?
davout: i wonder if the broken cock dude's friends will visit him in the hospital and write their names on his cast
BingoBoingo: There's always the chance
BingoBoingo: !up berndj
jurov: we all should visit him. so that he knows we are really serious
jurov: that we aren't making fun of him
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 482 @ 0.00215408 = 1.0383 BTC [-] {7}
mats_cd03: #b-a trip? i'll rent a van.
mats_cd03: we can go to the beach, do a pub crawl, discuss world domination, scribble on a man's dong cast... it'll be great
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44650 @ 0.0004336 = 19.3602 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33604 @ 0.00043438 = 14.5969 BTC [+] {2}
xanthyos: hello kids. i'm on drugs.
xanthyos: still not allowed to bathe
BingoBoingo: Probably best to follow those instruction
xanthyos: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2-BRhjIgAAhCPP.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1xVToDb )
davout: "hello kids. i'm on drugs." <<< saying hi like a boss
xanthyos: the one positive aspect of having a broken penis is having an excuse to show it to people on webcam in a non-perverted medical way. so they can all see how big i am
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2R5DB6Q.txt )
BingoBoingo: !b 1 ✂︎
xanthyos: and i can get away with that without bragging
ben_vulpes: i had a nightmare about cracking my cock
TomServo: Well I'm still chuckling about you flapping your hands, if its any consolation.
xanthyos: really ben
xanthyos: ben_vulpes: i got into your subconscious?
asciilifeform waits for one of you folks to write an updated 'the nutcracker' opera
assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3D6FCZM.txt )
BingoBoingo: !b 1 ✂︎
xanthyos: or a sequel
xanthyos: thankfully my testicles are still large and in charge
xanthyos: free dna for girls!
xanthyos: queue up
xanthyos: about to buy
xanthyos: i have 1.24 btc currently and i'm going to buy .76 to push me to 2.0
xanthyos: coinbase ~356ish
xanthyos: yes i'm drugged up, i hope my judgment isn't impaired
xanthyos: normally too afraid to buy
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/ecb/status/535781717760811008
assbot: Following publication of legal act on the implementation of the ABS purch. programme, the Eurosystem has started the purchases on 21/11/2014
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: and, https://www.bullionstar.com/blog/koos-jansen/the-netherlands-has-repatriated-122-5t-gold-from-us
assbot: The Netherlands Has Repatriated 122.5t Gold From US ... ( http://bit.ly/11CIdmX )
asciilifeform: why nl gets to and de not ?
asciilifeform not expert
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00044201 = 13.8349 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: and did it even happen.
asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't move it
TomServo: Article claims de will be, over 8 years
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014#511736 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014#511737 ☝︎☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2014 20:07:33; asciilifeform: stalin, during famous party plenum, re: spanish civil war gold:
assbot: Logged on 17-02-2014 20:07:46; asciilifeform: 'these fellows won't see it again like they won't see their ears [without mirror].]
xanthyos: Success! Your purchase completed successfully.
xanthyos: 0.76 BTC will arrive in your My Wallet account on Friday Nov 28, 2014.
xanthyos: coinbase purchases are better for btc than otc because they are made on low volume exchanges and are more likely to spike the price
xanthyos: i just hope i'm not a sucker, i was a bitcoin denier for years until i got backdoored into it through my interest in getting around the internet poker ban
xanthyos: i am so high you guys
xanthyos: i shoudlnt' be shopping
xanthyos: BingoBoingo: what store is your local wamart, i'm buying you some christmas mittens
xanthyos: walmart*
BingoBoingo: xanthyos: You don't need to worry about that.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what about it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wondered if actually 'news' or smoke.
mircea_popescu: well, the embargo on russia is working
mircea_popescu: on the eu.
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: no but im serious.
asciilifeform knows. or at least, observes ru press gloating
mircea_popescu: the ru press aside, the english fuckwits are fucking incredible.
mircea_popescu: all autumn they spent in this "o noes, bombama put teh hurts on putin!111"
mircea_popescu: which, you know, back when putin was merely pissing in the guy's mouth at public meetings, hey, i guess it's what people do, make this type of false claims.
mircea_popescu: sports press fulla it, especially if you count wrestling as a sport.
mircea_popescu: but as soon as fucking novemver rolled around, it's not even winter yet, the eu is already soft like the average penis of the average european
mircea_popescu: them being on average 55 yo or some shit
mircea_popescu: and yet, nobody, and i mean NOBODY comes out with the fucking obvious.
asciilifeform: then, as in all cases, 'the obvious' will have to eat them for lunch.
mircea_popescu: what is wrong with these people! give them some technology award, this cultish idiocy is unheard of.
mircea_popescu: you'd expect you know, as much as a "hey, maybe this embargo thing is actually fucking eu more than ru"
mircea_popescu: how, it boggles the mind. how is this not even entertained.
mircea_popescu: i mean these are all idiots with pretenses. they wear fucking suits and ties.
mircea_popescu: they keep supposed wives, have what they refer to as their children.
mircea_popescu: why even bother with all the pretense ? if you're going to do THIS sort of thing, why even bother dress ? eat fucking roadkill, go around screaming and tossing garbage, what fucking difference does it make.
punkman: girl worked hotel reception in the summer, all the russians were calling in saying they needed proof vacation was booked before embargo otherwise they weren't allowed to get on plane.
mircea_popescu: i suppose what im saying, in the end, is that i absolutely don't see any connection between the noises coming out of europe currently and the european tradition.
mircea_popescu: might as well be the greater congo masquerading as europe.
mircea_popescu: punkman duh.
mircea_popescu: the eu just got proclaimed illegitimate wholesale o.O
mats_cd03: xanthyos: might wanna hold off in the event of waterfall following nov 28
punkman: mats_cd03: black friday?
mats_cd03: yeah.
mircea_popescu: fwiw the november thing is mostly bull, esp in btc.
mircea_popescu: buncha redditors get excited, make donations of fiddy picocents
punkman: always found these shops curious, trying to sell furs in a place that doesn't get cold http://www.vossfurs.com/media/1087/Hersonissos1.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1vwEbe7 )
mircea_popescu: davout: i wonder if the broken cock dude's friends will visit him in the hospital and write their names on his cast <<< well, mebbe their gfs.
mircea_popescu: punkman it's a luxury thing tho.
mircea_popescu: anyway, very nicely done shop.
punkman: there's a ton of these shops, wonder how many went under this year
mircea_popescu: half ?
BingoBoingo: Tales of Jaundiced Pooh horror http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/Around_the_World/2014-11-19/36417/Half_Naked_Winnie_The_Pooh_Banned_From_Playground_
assbot: Half Naked Winnie The Pooh Banned From Playground - Around the World News - Croatian Times Online News - English Newspaper ... ( http://bit.ly/1vwEu8D )
BingoBoingo: One official is heard saying: "It doesn’t wear underpants because it doesn’t have a sex. It’s a hermaphrodite."
punkman: lol
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: why nl gets to and de not ? <<< because nl is not a fucking ally, and was not defeated in ww2.
BingoBoingo: She said: "This is very disturbing but can you imagine! The author was over 60 and cut his [Pooh's] testicles off with a razor blade because he had a problem with his identity."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00044479 = 15.4342 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nl is nato colony however
mircea_popescu: apparently not.
asciilifeform: http://www.nato.int/multi/mapgame/public/index.html << lol, nato has www games.
assbot: NATO Map Game ... ( http://bit.ly/1r5kin3 )
asciilifeform: somebody should 'helpfully' replace it with 'risk'
mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_114902.htm << mega-lol
assbot: NATO - News: Largest ever NATO cyber defence exercise gets underway, 18-Nov.-2014 ... ( http://bit.ly/1r5kDGu )
asciilifeform: whether nl is colony, they will know when they drill the bars, assuming they do.
asciilifeform: and assuming bars moved
mircea_popescu: bars moved, an' im sure they're drilling.
asciilifeform: http://klikki.fi/adv/wordpress.html (via diametric)
assbot: Klikki Oy - WordPress 3 Persistent Script Injection ... ( http://bit.ly/1r5mQS5 )
punkman: they still can't sanitize HTML?
punkman: ffs
mircea_popescu: 3.x lol
punkman: but not to worry! we can now push code to your WP installation at will!
mircea_popescu: heh. also 3.x
BingoBoingo: Is qntra a 500 internal server error for anyone else?
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/netherlands-repatriates-some-gold/
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1p6h5rM )
punkman: that redirected me to http://go.away/
xanthyos: yes
punkman: homepage worked though
TomServo: both working here
xanthyos: dns fail
xanthyos: not 404
teward: ^
mircea_popescu: uh.
mircea_popescu: as per usual, i see all fine ?
BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/1TR5XZ9 << Sometimes it works, other times this
assbot: dpaste: 1TR5XZ9 ... ( http://bit.ly/1p6ileh )
mircea_popescu: hm.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well if nothing else that advisory thing is useful because it explais how to turn off the idiotic "html texturizing" wp been doing
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo are you actually seeing it with any sort of frequency ? or was transient ?
BingoBoingo: It happened a few times all right after making the latest post
mircea_popescu: well say if you see more.
BingoBoingo: Will do
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53300 @ 0.00044624 = 23.7846 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 356.52, Best ask: 356.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 357.26, 24 hour volume: 15754.98265088, 24 hour low: 342.05, 24 hour high: 362.0, 24 hour vwap: 352.203846856
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 1862 @ 0.00080029 = 1.4901 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60650 @ 0.00045087 = 27.3453 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/ZNvYKUiC << mega-lol from #b-wizzards
assbot: megalol - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1tnr7Ak )
asciilifeform: ^ that channel appears to be besieged by obnoxious crackpots, and they're starting to talk of #b-a-esque voice controls
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well if you're gonna copy something, gotta copy the lot neh ?
asciilifeform: leads to the question of - why the schism
asciilifeform doesn't know the story
mircea_popescu: the idiots preexisted. we're the new thing here.
mircea_popescu: the skism is unavoidable : they don't fit here, and know they don't. they can't admit they're idiots, and so they';re stuck
mircea_popescu: copying the voice or w/e.
asciilifeform: 'wizards' is recent, but does contain several known hooligans, yes
mircea_popescu: i thought that's what you were asking about.
asciilifeform has been reading it, on and off, because there are two or three thinking folks in there who occasionally discuss maths/crypto
asciilifeform wondered why there, and not here
asciilifeform: kanzure, fluffypony, a few others i think
asciilifeform: *or rather, why they do it there vs here
mircea_popescu: ;;seen kanzure
gribble: kanzure was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 weeks, 6 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <kanzure> did he claim that his property rights were violated, or that the owner's property rights were violated?
mircea_popescu: mebbe it's context dependant.
BingoBoingo: !up Stocker
Stocker: thk
BingoBoingo: So what brings you around these parts?
mircea_popescu: who're you Stocker ?
Stocker: ?
Stocker: trader and you
mircea_popescu: same i guess.
rithm: i'm a part-time Stalker
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27090 @ 0.00044508 = 12.0572 BTC [-]
kanzure: asciilifeform: because i don't want to setup a pgp user agent with my irc client
mats_cd03: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bkfajegn2mn35ng/AABm_RyD4x9VLzYjI9n9Dl2Wa hardware assisted virtualization in AV software
assbot: Dropbox - zn_0x4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOb4ky )
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2014/11/us-department-of-justice-kim-dotcom-cant-challenge-asset-forfeiture/#comment-1875 << Apparently traffic is not all DDoS and this chan
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1uObqr7 )
TomServo: pretty cool. Anybody read his stuff?
BingoBoingo: I haven't
BingoBoingo: Dunno who he is
asciilifeform: kanzure: afaik most of us here use hand-cranked pgp
TomServo: Well the name in the qntra post links to: http://www.amazon.com/Philip-Mullan/e/B00IC5R90Y/
assbot: Amazon.com: Philip Mullan: Books, Biography, Blog, Audiobooks, Kindle ... ( http://bit.ly/1uObSFO )
punkman: http://www.dgcmagazine.com/dgc-founder-discusses-his-new-book-the-digital-currency-challenge/
assbot: DGC Founder Discusses His New Book, The Digital Currency Challenge | DGC ... ( http://bit.ly/1uObSFS )
TomServo: Assuming it's the same dude? idk.
asciilifeform: kanzure: (no irc client plugins or anything of the kind)
punkman: he used to run that DGC magazine
punkman: http://www.dgcmagazine.com/silentvault-launches-aims-silence-blockchain/
assbot: SilentVault launches aiming to 'silence the blockchain' - DGC | DGC ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOcb3B )
kanzure: asciilifeform: that sounds awful
kanzure: i'm not gonna sit around like a jackass sending signed messages to gribble all the time
asciilifeform: kanzure: it takes me all of 5 minutes to auth, and i do it every other week or so (when isp disconnects for a spell)
TomServo: it's really not a big deal.
kanzure: 5 minutes to auth?
kanzure: you have a very high tolerance
asciilifeform: 5 minutes max
asciilifeform: most of it spent with [censored] rather than on anything particular to 'gribble'
asciilifeform: any reasonable person keeps his key [censored] in [censored]
mircea_popescu: kanzure generally the way i use it is hit a curl http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452|gpg and feed it my pw
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1oY7SBR )
mircea_popescu: then paste the result. it's maybe 30 seconds. but yeah, i guess, a hassle.
mircea_popescu: !up Molt
asciilifeform: thing is, a fellow who doesn't 'believe in' or like pgp, and doesn't care for the guarantees proper use provides, can automate up to a hundred percent of the process
asciilifeform: but he should not be surprised later.
mircea_popescu: anyway, how did that theory go, it's a balancing act.
mircea_popescu: but there's your answer at any rate : voice model chills speech. this includes some speech you didn't apparently want chilled.
asciilifeform: hell, some apparently clever folks (taleb?) can't even be bothered to dredge up a computer, or figure out 'irc' - so, no amount of free voice will help.
punkman wonders how many people in the WoT use airgapped gpg to auth
asciilifeform: punkman: generally there is very little to be gained by telling other people anything re: where and how you keep your key.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-wisdom-of-crowds-apparently-it-mostly-depends-on-the-crowds-in-question/#comment-110072 o look, there's a debate.
assbot: The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOcHOW )
BingoBoingo: Especially don't tell people where you keep your private key if it is derived from using an Iris scanner on your butthole
asciilifeform: 'what two men know - the sow knows'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform some amount of free voice will help some cases. no amount will help all cases.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1000 @ 0.00121203 = 1.212 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-wisdom-of-crowds-apparently-it-mostly-depends-on-the-crowds-in-question/#comment-110073
assbot: The wisdom of crowds. Apparently, it mostly depends on the crowds in question. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOcWd1 )
mircea_popescu: hm where's that discussion re labs and measurements and how things get accepted
asciilifeform: !s eotvos
assbot: 8 results for 'eotvos' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=eotvos
asciilifeform: there.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2014#816994 ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 31-08-2014 02:17:56; assbot: Logged on 27-07-2014 19:05:02; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in 2010 i concocted a variant of the test that could be carried out for approx. 50k USD, from scratch. schwartz answered that, in his estimation, the test would work to spec, but results would not be accepted by the field unless carried out on one of the two existing eotvos balances. one - adelberger's, one - chicom.
asciilifeform: ^ thread re: 'provenance'
mats_cd03: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/DOJ-Tells-Apple-Kids-Will-Die-Because-of-Their-Encryption-Stand-131411
assbot: DOJ Tells Apple Kids Will Die Because of Their Encryption Stand | DSLReports, ISP Information ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOdpMd )
danielpbarron: http://youtu.be/RybNI0KB1bg
assbot: The Simpsons - Helen Lovejoy - Think of the children - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOdy2d )
asciilifeform: the apple et. al. 'born again in crypto' thing is cheap psyop.
BingoBoingo: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/11/21/its-amazing-how-fast-these-weeks-are-moving-now/
assbot: It's amazing how fast these weeks are moving now | Bingo Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOe5RU )
rithm: BingoBoingo possible run-on sentence: It's beautiful this thing barely old enough to squirm managing to commit forward locomotion under its own power
rithm: not sure if one comma or two
chetty: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/nov/21/e-cigarettes-malware-computers
assbot: Now e-cigarettes can give you malware | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOeofk )
BingoBoingo: fixed
asciilifeform: translation: 'please fear usb disks, not winblows, winblows is yer friend'
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu ya that article was embarassingly shitty
asciilifeform: incidentally, the one type of winblows 0day that will remain in inexhaustible supply for so long as microshit remains a thing, is the usb drive 0day.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a very easy sell.
asciilifeform: winblows file system handlers are porous on personal orders of lizard hitler.
pete_dushenski: lessons learned 1) speak to what you know, 2) don't say "yes" to everything just because, 3) if you're going to do something, do it well, 4) have qntra articles vetted before publishing, 5) never quote wikipedia, duh.
BingoBoingo: My bad on hitting the publish button
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo all good. you assumed that everything i touch is gold. but alas. a human is i and a human is you.
asciilifeform: incidentally, there are folks who reverse microshit's patches for a living.
asciilifeform: one day they will talk.
asciilifeform: (what will we hear, when they do? approximately, what everyone already knew.)
pete_dushenski: so here's some redeeming contravex: 1) http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/21/the-community-will-bust-your-balls-if-you-dont-listen-to-them-and-break-your-bank-account-if-you-do/
assbot: “The Community” Will Bust Your Balls If You Don’t Listen To Them And Break Your Bank Account If You Do | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOeHa2 )
asciilifeform: which is to say, the exact mechanism whereby the supply of 0day is in fact inexhaustible
pete_dushenski: 2) http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/21/why-are-you-in-such-a-huff-all-i-said-was-we-should-think-about-quarantining-africa/
assbot: Why Are You In Such A Huff? All I Said Was “We Should Think About Quarantining Africa” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOeJ1J )
asciilifeform: usg cycle goes approximately: 1) produce anal orifice (entirely plausibly-deniable bugpharms like microshit, with pedigrees going back into the sands of time, and impossibility of attribution or meaningful study - easy)
asciilifeform: 2) exploit for a spell
asciilifeform: 3) exploit is discovered by humans and put to use by wild men
pete_dushenski: 4) party?
asciilifeform: 4) exploit is patched, patch introduces more of the substance seen in step (1) (plausibly-deniable spaghetti that contains seeds of next iteration of cycle)
pete_dushenski: o that's step 5
asciilifeform: 5) patch is reversed by folks paid or otherwise happy to carry out this duty, and go to step 2.
asciilifeform: microshit periodically goes to step 1, on release cycle (new winblows and 'service packs')
undata: asciilifeform: certainly there are intentional back-doors, but I'm not going to give every steaming pile of microshit that excuse
asciilifeform: undata: the entire architecture (soft & hard stack) is a meta-backdoor
asciilifeform: actual, engineered back doors are seldom necessary
undata: haha, yes
asciilifeform: and when produced, are typically built to be physically indistinguishable from the 'natural' kind.
asciilifeform: the only apparent exception is pki, which 'everyone' seems to know is a master key anal orifice of the first order, wherever it chances to appear, and yet virtually no one objects
asciilifeform: on account of 'but they wouldn't dare'
asciilifeform: (when 'they' - dare, e.g., stuxnet, somehow it goes 'down the memory hole' and magicked into 'never happened you consp1r4cy nutter')
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i kept waiting, in your article, for the link to the canonical classic on the subject ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/924795/posts )
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pete_dushenski: asciilifeform ah! my canon needed some fleshing out. ty!
pete_dushenski: i'll see if i can't find a place for that
asciilifeform: read it first, perhaps you'll disagree
pete_dushenski: myes. most definitely
pete_dushenski: so far so good..
asciilifeform: in other news,
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2013/06/usss-cryptome.htm
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asciilifeform: (repost, nm)
asciilifeform not awake apparently
asciilifeform: http://propagandahistory.ru/pics/2012/02/1329780434_c1ec.jpg
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asciilifeform: (source: http://kryaker.dwg.ru/?p=2011 )
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undata: asciilifeform: the characters in those posters have an almost minstrel quality
jurov: lol ironically i did puncture myself once with pitchfork
asciilifeform: http://anzgar.livejournal.com/51682.html << moar
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jurov: ne xodi po rybe !!11 :D
asciilifeform: some of these could work well with new text.
jurov: smotri pod nogi << da!
jurov: Hello Sir When You Gonna Message At-Lest Tell Me Sir What's Going On Are You Fixing My Bugs Or Not Are You Seeing My Bugs Or Not Do You Have Any Problem With My Bugs ? Why Are You Behave Like That Sir Why Are You Ignoring Peoples This Is Not Well Behavior Sir Please Respect Our Work Ok Cause It Was Really Hard Work Which I Had Done And You Again Didn't Send Me Message ?/???
asciilifeform: wat
jurov: ^ copied some text about insecure cookies from wikipedia previously
jurov: dud tries hard to get some "bug bounty"
jurov: *dude
jurov: i'll prolly reply "yes, bugs are fine, they eat every day and laid some eggs"
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BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/KidElls1/status/535922835571478529
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xanthyos: god is teasing me, the same way he teased jesus
xanthyos: no one's supposed to struggle this much in life
xanthyos: pick an ailment god
BingoBoingo: Well, that's what you get for doing a persian penis trick
xanthyos: pick one and stick with it you fickle fuck
ben_vulpes: what's your cross today, xanthyos ?
BingoBoingo: Healing is never painless
xanthyos: i grew up watching saved by the bell. zack morris never had these problems.
pete_dushenski: pankkake is firing up more than just trilema today :) http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/21/the-community-will-bust-your-balls-if-you-dont-listen-to-them-and-break-your-bank-account-if-you-do/#comment-5452
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mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski BingoBoingo i like how positive you two are tho.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 1/2/3/4 it seems quite probable that's exactly how this particular "engineering for excellence" thing works.
mircea_popescu: "Finally, if you add the horrifying spread of AIDS into the equation, anyone born in sub-Saharan Africa this century will be lucky to reach age forty." ahem.
mircea_popescu: quite a different story on life expectancy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this gaffe is pestilentially ubiquitous
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect he might mean it correctly.
asciilifeform: possible.
mircea_popescu: ANYONE. is lucky. to make it past 40.
mircea_popescu: Two friends died from stepping on landmines while on Army duty in Namibia. Three died in horrific car accidents (and lest one thinks that this is not confined to Africa, one was caused by a kudu flying through a windshield and impaling the guy through the chest with its hoof--not your everyday traffic accident in, say, Florida).
mircea_popescu: african guy never been to canada.
pete_dushenski: lol yup. a moose will do the same thing
pete_dushenski: not uncommon either
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "casual attitude to life and death" he discusses is in no way typically african.
pete_dushenski: https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/motorvehiclesafety/tp-tp14798-1289.htm << ok only 12-32 ppl/year in canada
assbot: Statistical Review - Transport Canada ... ( http://bit.ly/1z5hdI4 )
mircea_popescu: it's just typical of actual people, as neatly opposed to dickles otakus or w/e populate teh us.
asciilifeform: not uniquely african, no. all orcs.
mircea_popescu: all men.
asciilifeform: !s orcs humans
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asciilifeform: (can replace with whatever names one prefers, so long as remembering that 'orc' regards 'human' as effete nithling, and 'human' regards 'orc' as a filthy shaved ape.)
mircea_popescu: lemme make the argument here.
mircea_popescu: your own life is not actually within your control. valuing something outside of your control is logically broken, and that basis is enough for any ulterior brokenness to be itnroduced.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://copypast.ru/uploads/posts/1342177290_mntbf1m5zo0.jpg << relevant
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asciilifeform: ^ not a 'virginal' poster, if anyone is confused
mircea_popescu: lol rabbits
jurov: orcs shave? TIL
jurov: soo gay
asciilifeform: approximately: 'bravely the railman / drunkenly struts / if he's run over / he'll show you some guts!' - 'comrade, don't fear death!'
mircea_popescu: lettuce see there. boldly
mircea_popescu: mnah, safely along the tracks
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: i guess you're faster than me
asciilifeform: looser.
mircea_popescu: "In my lifetime, the following tragedies have occurred, causing untold millions of deaths: famine in Biafra"
mircea_popescu: i remember this. when i was like 6 old women around me were "omg, you look like you're from biafra! eat something!"
jurov: i was quite a brat: "you don't want to eat this? think of starving children in africa, they'd like this" "well, so send it to them"
mircea_popescu: lol
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mircea_popescu: see jurov, and now god gave them aids for your sins.
mircea_popescu: you shoulda just ate the damned peas!
mircea_popescu: Among old Africa hands, we have a saying, usually accompanied by a shrug: "Africa wins again." This is usually said after an incident such as: a beloved missionary is butchered by his congregation, for no apparent reason.
jurov: lol wins again... a brazil joke came to mind:
jurov: Brazil is the country of future. And forever shall be.
mircea_popescu: lmao
mircea_popescu: 17 countries saw a decline in real per capita GNP between 1970 and 1999, despite receiving well over $100 billion in World Bank assistance
pete_dushenski: i'm off, have a lovely evening b-a!
mircea_popescu: well, in fairness part of this may be that the african gdp is sinking in realer terms. if same were applied, the us sunk since the 80s something fiercer
mircea_popescu: 3/4 or some shit
asciilifeform: more height, more splat.
mircea_popescu: The result of decades of "foreign aid" has resulted in a continental infrastructure which, if one excludes South Africa, couldn't support Pittsburgh.
mircea_popescu: this is very unfair. i have personally used the egyptian trains, cairo to luxor
mircea_popescu: first class had better service than anywhere i've ever been, including switzerland
mircea_popescu: complete with private gay butler, in white gloves.
asciilifeform: afaik egypt is africa solely in geographic sense.
jurov: if they exclude maghreb, too.. but nairobi seems to have decnt infra, too
mircea_popescu: well you know, without this without that... basically you're what, talking of "african americans" ?
asciilifeform not expert on africa, does not know how much of the piece is 'reversed stupidity'
mircea_popescu: other than being an european in the "mare nostrum" sense of that concept, me either.
asciilifeform: perhaps the chicoms, in a decade or three, will share an honest picture of that continent.
asciilifeform: once they're done terraforming it.
mircea_popescu: yeah seems the inescapble fate of the black race, extermination at the hands of the yellow.
mircea_popescu: at least whitey TRANSPORTED them, ya know ?
mircea_popescu: "If a cure for AIDS was found tomorrow, and offered to every African nation free of charge, the growth of the disease would scarcely be checked, let alone reversed." i ca see this.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, what the african activists willing to speak plainly say sounds a whole fuckload of a lot just like what the paternalist southern lobby was saying in the us, early 1800s.
asciilifeform: elementary. consider simple vitamin deficiencies. easy pill - no difference.
asciilifeform: and they aren't even infectious.
mircea_popescu: what do you mean ?
mircea_popescu: i just treated girly anemia with succinate
asciilifeform: e.g., pellagra.
mircea_popescu: oh you mean in africa
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: a yea
mircea_popescu: somehow i deduced you mean pills just don't work in principle somehow
asciilifeform: lol
mircea_popescu: Even worse would be to think that the simplicity of Africa holds some kind of answers for Western society: remember "It Takes A Village"? Trust me on this: there is not one thing that Africa can give the West which hasn't been tried before and failed, not one thing that isn't a step backwards, and not one thing which is worse than, or that contradicts, what we have already.
asciilifeform: there's typo in there, i think
mircea_popescu: this is actually a general point. i recall a few decades ago bored stupid californian housewifes and ex actresses went all crazy about how india is going to be teh great cure
mircea_popescu: fizzled as one'd expect. there's a reason india was a colonial empire and not vice-versa.
asciilifeform: 'isn't worse'
mircea_popescu: i guess ya
asciilifeform: 'Hindus enjoy 36 crores of gods - that's 360 million, or more. None of them offered a Sanscrit pre-publication proof of Classical Electrodynamics by Jackson or volunteered Novocain.' -- al schwartz
mircea_popescu: anyway, lulzfest in comments, #5 is where i stopped.
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