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mircea_popescu: the shoemaker's literal shoemaking skills, admirable as they might've been, fail to hold interest.
mircea_popescu: shoemaker WAS A SOCIALIST
asciilifeform: or hey, consider the old shoemaker.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 00:58 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819266 << the shoemaker's favourite tv , allegedly
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819266 << the shoemaker's favourite tv , allegedly☝︎
asciilifeform: dunno if i personally could tell actual-1974-shoemaker's-own-typewriter from artful fake typed on the timis museum one
mircea_popescu: HOW exactly they do this is incomprehensible. but consider : guy who was 3rd echelon politruk under shoemaker ; guy who was too dumb / poorly connected to make anything of the 90s, resurfaces in 2010! with a "proposal" which consists of "here's this adaptation of usg-isms as i understand them".
a111: Logged on 2017-12-03 14:56 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745763 << my current reading of the shoemaker is that he was some combo of senility and 'tilt' (being under attack from ~all angles by the empire, and unable to do much of anything in the way of genuine push-back )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745763 << my current reading of the shoemaker is that he was some combo of senility and 'tilt' (being under attack from ~all angles by the empire, and unable to do much of anything in the way of genuine push-back )☝︎
asciilifeform: and while i'd hesitate to time travel to 'golden age' su, i'd almost happily move to shoemaker-era ro
asciilifeform: they've been replaying the exact same program ever since it worked for killing the old shoemaker.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> of course reality caught up with poor shoemaker's imagination, and today's 'emperors' indeed have not only front porches but armchair with tv with foxnoose, and refrigerator full of 'bud' << The local noise is dominated by 'bud' sales freefalling. Popular yet unverifiable by me theory is lack of once much marketed 'Born on date' discontinued by the Brazilians is letting retailers and wholesalers keep rancid product on
asciilifeform: of course reality caught up with poor shoemaker's imagination, and today's 'emperors' indeed have not only front porches but armchair with tv with foxnoose, and refrigerator full of 'bud'
asciilifeform: mebbe this shows that asciilifeform is same sort of peasant as the shoemaker, but finding it hard to see why not counts. having pantsuit hoisted on a public stake would even moar count imho
asciilifeform: i.e. for all i know shoemaker & co were about to start making ivories
asciilifeform: re the shoemaker, asciilifeform still can't fully shake the traditional ru version , where man was plugged for paying off his national debt, rather than 'the beoble Finally Had Enuff!' usgolade nonsense.
asciilifeform: roventiu by all indications ~would~ have perforated he shoemaker, if the latter had not buttoned up in bunker, shittings pants over missing kalash
asciilifeform: or even for the shoemaker
asciilifeform: in tito's case , and for that matter kim ir sen's -- 'throne is mine, i won it as partizan commander in the war, took no payola from foreign devils' was tru. but how did the shoemaker get ~his~ throne
a111: Logged on 2016-01-07 01:58 asciilifeform: relative of mine once took - very worn - pair of american shit-shoes to an old ru emigre shoemaker, asked 'what he could do.' the wizened master replied: 'i can throw these out for you'
mod6: everytime I think of a shoemaker/cobbler, i think of that character from A Tale Of Two Cities who used to be a Doctor before he did 18 years in the Bastille.
asciilifeform: 'if yer making shoes, you oughta be a shoemaker'
pete_dushenski: when i find shoemaker who isn't jamaican / ethiopan bum i'll have proper footwear made.
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 03:49:42; ben_vulpes: the 'umble shoemaker, dedicated to sitting on his ass and never doing anything, will starve in this town until he turns to making fashionable shoes with heels and lace instead of the sturdy things in which men tromp through mud.
ben_vulpes: the 'umble shoemaker, dedicated to sitting on his ass and never doing anything, will starve in this town until he turns to making fashionable shoes with heels and lace instead of the sturdy things in which men tromp through mud.
asciilifeform: but i will point out, i see this entire story (the bbet meltdown) though 'shoemaker' eyes, and i never had any idea, whether jurov and kako were part of mircea_popescu's actual inner circle, i.e. folks who actually move serious coin around, privy to how mpb works, physically met his intelligence agents, etc. or not.
asciilifeform: i have nfi, and might be a shoemaker.
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 03:01:31; mircea_popescu: !rate nubbins` -1 more or less shoemaker insistent on derping above the crepidam.
nubbins`: wow, he called me a shoemaker as an insult earlier
asciilifeform: i think i am what mircea_popescu terms a 'shoemaker.'
nubbins`: also, don't change the argument into how feasible it is for a lowly shoemaker to pull it off
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for nubbins` from 2 to -1 with note: more or less shoemaker insistent on derping above the crepidam.
mircea_popescu: !rate nubbins` -1 more or less shoemaker insistent on derping above the crepidam.
mircea_popescu: so as not to say "should have been a shoemaker"
asciilifeform: relative of mine once took - very worn - pair of american shit-shoes to an old ru emigre shoemaker, asked 'what he could do.' the wizened master replied: 'i can throw these out for you'
mircea_popescu: who knew the problem apelles of kos dealt with is actually much broader than just an annoying shoemaker.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278613 << climatologism looks particularly bad because it was so egregious. none of the people involved were any good at any point. the fact that the usg has managed to marshal the equivalent of local mcdonalds supervisors into "science" is really very much calked off the soviets' "here's this apprentice shoemaker who is our expert biologist". it has no known equivalent o☝︎
asciilifeform: aha could've stayed shoemaker.
mircea_popescu: ceausescu was a shoemaker.
ascii_field: but i for one can more easily comprehend how to move to ar and learn to be a shoemaker or ocelot-walker or whatever, than turning into one of the above
asciilifeform: hanbot: it isn't really a 'profession structure' in my case. yes, for some people, 'i'm a lawyer and without that i'm nothing, where's my pistol' etc. these folks dropped like flies in '90s russia, say. but i'm more of - 'if i can move across the sea, but have to work as shoemaker in a cellar for 12h day, instead of 'turning the right screw' here in usa, why do i need to buy plane ticket? i can do the shoemaker th
bounce: s/shoemaker,/shoemaking,/
bounce: ThickAsThieves: elites aren't egalitarian, you'll recall. some are more leet than others. :-) the point rather is that if you're an elite shoemaker and son of an elite shoemaker you should be able to get in on traits acquired by exposure to shoemaker, not by dint of birth. even though that birth helped you along.