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asciilifeform: speaking of kalash, mircea_popescu what's this i hear re iliescu (ro eltsin) being tried in absentia for orchestrating the demise of shoemaker ?

mircea_popescu: the traditional view, driven by high medieval practice, is to regard work~load~ as the dissuasive factor, some guy who might think himself a shoemaker may re-consider if confronted with a pile of shoe leather waiting to be shoed stretching twelve acres and reaching into the skies.

asciilifeform: it's still a calculator, lol. ( recall, 'computer' was simply name of a kind of shoemaker, i.e. d00d who would calculate repeatedly based on given 'loop' )

a111: Logged on 2019-05-06 14:47 asciilifeform: first gotta fully describe the atrocity, so as it is not repeated in future. mp_en_viaje recall that shoemaker-era defunkt public toilet in timis 3 blocks from 'kaufland' ?

asciilifeform: first gotta fully describe the atrocity, so as it is not repeated in future. mp_en_viaje recall that shoemaker-era defunkt public toilet in timis 3 blocks from 'kaufland' ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: in fact, genius shoemaker pissed right into the mouth of the 'comcon' sanctions, bought semiconductor fab line straight from ti

a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 13:19 asciilifeform: spyked: seems like the joke is on the folx who shot the shoemaker , who ~maybe~-sent police if he thought you had particular kind of bits on paper , and then spread legs for nato reich, who send police if they think you have ~another~ kind of bits, on yer hdd..

a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:27 asciilifeform: as for the old shoemaker, admittedly i never wore a crown, but afaik folx who wear crowns do not have the option of saying 'we lost options'. sorta like the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663960 thing.

a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:15 asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'didn't get to the part where it gets better' << this is the distinct impression i get . and i suspect on acct of the shoemaker being soft.

a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 21:24 asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is where i admit that it is above my paygrade to say just how 'maybe without shoemaker, less worse and shorter' . if there's a way to keep neighbours from turning yer congo into a resource extraction base without marching peasants at gunpoint to city and having'em stand in front of lathes to make kalashes, i do not know it

asciilifeform: if the dynastic crown-wearer is enuff of a tard, then yes shoemaker, or cabbie, or defrocked priest, will wear

diana_coman: asciilifeform, sure, at the root of it being wtf was a shoemaker doing with the crown on his head

asciilifeform: as for the old shoemaker, admittedly i never wore a crown, but afaik folx who wear crowns do not have the option of saying 'we lost options'. sorta like the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-31#1663960 thing. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is where i admit that it is above my paygrade to say just how 'maybe without shoemaker, less worse and shorter' . if there's a way to keep neighbours from turning yer congo into a resource extraction base without marching peasants at gunpoint to city and having'em stand in front of lathes to make kalashes, i do not know it ☟︎

asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'didn't get to the part where it gets better' << this is the distinct impression i get . and i suspect on acct of the shoemaker being soft. ☟︎

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i must add also that i went for a week to timis, and for 5 days went past fish market, each time finding there 0 fish. apparently shooting the shoemaker did not fix..

asciilifeform: tho i must add, unlike shoemaker, ivan was a thinkin' man, spent good % of his life in his (lost to indiana jones warehouse) megalibrary, an' playin' chess etc with courtiers, scheming how to fuck english queen, and so forth

mircea_popescu: but anyway -- disgustingly fat, yes, pinnacle of asskissing, yes, sent weekly letters "tov. shoemaker, to whom i remain most loyal servant" in prison, yes.

a111: Logged on 2019-03-13 15:04 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they shot the shoemaker, ironically enough, because he was excessively like me for their taste. their principal objections, unvoiced but truthfully and authentically reconstructed, were in order that 1) he sent them to do manual labour, in complete disdain of their self-identification ("we're intellectuals!!!") ; 2) he was unimpressed by the rest of their http://trilema.com/2016/the-next-generation/ hallucinatio

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they shot the shoemaker, ironically enough, because he was excessively like me for their taste. their principal objections, unvoiced but truthfully and authentically reconstructed, were in order that 1) he sent them to do manual labour, in complete disdain of their self-identification ("we're intellectuals!!!") ; 2) he was unimpressed by the rest of their http://trilema.com/2016/the-next-generation/ hallucinatio ☟︎

asciilifeform: spyked: seems like the joke is on the folx who shot the shoemaker , who ~maybe~-sent police if he thought you had particular kind of bits on paper , and then spread legs for nato reich, who send police if they think you have ~another~ kind of bits, on yer hdd.. ☟︎

asciilifeform: for bonus lulz, the gas infrastructure of these people (gringostan, not shoemaker's ro, i cannot comment re the latter) is a lul. not even to mention the fact that they pretend to also ~export~...

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i went to 'banat' mus. but i think it was a shoemaker-era eszats

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-19#1864040 << your favourite shoemaker used to have the police regularly beat these, and then detain them in workcamps. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-22#1852778 << iirc the shoemaker replaced ~90% of what 'history' there was, with hruscheba ☝︎

mircea_popescu: the shoemaker's literal shoemaking skills, admirable as they might've been, fail to hold interest.

a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 00:58 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-27#1819266 << the shoemaker's favourite tv , allegedly

asciilifeform: dunno if i personally could tell actual-1974-shoemaker's-own-typewriter from artful fake typed on the timis museum one

mircea_popescu: HOW exactly they do this is incomprehensible. but consider : guy who was 3rd echelon politruk under shoemaker ; guy who was too dumb / poorly connected to make anything of the 90s, resurfaces in 2010! with a "proposal" which consists of "here's this adaptation of usg-isms as i understand them".

a111: Logged on 2017-12-03 14:56 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745763 << my current reading of the shoemaker is that he was some combo of senility and 'tilt' (being under attack from ~all angles by the empire, and unable to do much of anything in the way of genuine push-back )

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1745763 << my current reading of the shoemaker is that he was some combo of senility and 'tilt' (being under attack from ~all angles by the empire, and unable to do much of anything in the way of genuine push-back ) ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: and while i'd hesitate to time travel to 'golden age' su, i'd almost happily move to shoemaker-era ro

asciilifeform: they've been replaying the exact same program ever since it worked for killing the old shoemaker.

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> of course reality caught up with poor shoemaker's imagination, and today's 'emperors' indeed have not only front porches but armchair with tv with foxnoose, and refrigerator full of 'bud' << The local noise is dominated by 'bud' sales freefalling. Popular yet unverifiable by me theory is lack of once much marketed 'Born on date' discontinued by the Brazilians is letting retailers and wholesalers keep rancid product on

asciilifeform: of course reality caught up with poor shoemaker's imagination, and today's 'emperors' indeed have not only front porches but armchair with tv with foxnoose, and refrigerator full of 'bud'

asciilifeform: mebbe this shows that asciilifeform is same sort of peasant as the shoemaker, but finding it hard to see why not counts. having pantsuit hoisted on a public stake would even moar count imho

asciilifeform: re the shoemaker, asciilifeform still can't fully shake the traditional ru version , where man was plugged for paying off his national debt, rather than 'the beoble Finally Had Enuff!' usgolade nonsense.

asciilifeform: roventiu by all indications ~would~ have perforated he shoemaker, if the latter had not buttoned up in bunker, shittings pants over missing kalash

asciilifeform: in tito's case , and for that matter kim ir sen's -- 'throne is mine, i won it as partizan commander in the war, took no payola from foreign devils' was tru. but how did the shoemaker get ~his~ throne

a111: Logged on 2016-01-07 01:58 asciilifeform: relative of mine once took - very worn - pair of american shit-shoes to an old ru emigre shoemaker, asked 'what he could do.' the wizened master replied: 'i can throw these out for you'

mod6: everytime I think of a shoemaker/cobbler, i think of that character from A Tale Of Two Cities who used to be a Doctor before he did 18 years in the Bastille.

pete_dushenski: when i find shoemaker who isn't jamaican / ethiopan bum i'll have proper footwear made.

assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 03:49:42; ben_vulpes: the 'umble shoemaker, dedicated to sitting on his ass and never doing anything, will starve in this town until he turns to making fashionable shoes with heels and lace instead of the sturdy things in which men tromp through mud.

ben_vulpes: the 'umble shoemaker, dedicated to sitting on his ass and never doing anything, will starve in this town until he turns to making fashionable shoes with heels and lace instead of the sturdy things in which men tromp through mud. ☟︎

asciilifeform: but i will point out, i see this entire story (the bbet meltdown) though 'shoemaker' eyes, and i never had any idea, whether jurov and kako were part of mircea_popescu's actual inner circle, i.e. folks who actually move serious coin around, privy to how mpb works, physically met his intelligence agents, etc. or not.

assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 03:01:31; mircea_popescu: !rate nubbins` -1 more or less shoemaker insistent on derping above the crepidam.

nubbins`: also, don't change the argument into how feasible it is for a lowly shoemaker to pull it off

assbot: Successfully updated the rating for nubbins` from 2 to -1 with note: more or less shoemaker insistent on derping above the crepidam.

mircea_popescu: !rate nubbins` -1 more or less shoemaker insistent on derping above the crepidam. ☟︎

asciilifeform: relative of mine once took - very worn - pair of american shit-shoes to an old ru emigre shoemaker, asked 'what he could do.' the wizened master replied: 'i can throw these out for you' ☟︎

mircea_popescu: who knew the problem apelles of kos dealt with is actually much broader than just an annoying shoemaker.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278613 << climatologism looks particularly bad because it was so egregious. none of the people involved were any good at any point. the fact that the usg has managed to marshal the equivalent of local mcdonalds supervisors into "science" is really very much calked off the soviets' "here's this apprentice shoemaker who is our expert biologist". it has no known equivalent o ☝︎

ascii_field: but i for one can more easily comprehend how to move to ar and learn to be a shoemaker or ocelot-walker or whatever, than turning into one of the above

asciilifeform: hanbot: it isn't really a 'profession structure' in my case. yes, for some people, 'i'm a lawyer and without that i'm nothing, where's my pistol' etc. these folks dropped like flies in '90s russia, say. but i'm more of - 'if i can move across the sea, but have to work as shoemaker in a cellar for 12h day, instead of 'turning the right screw' here in usa, why do i need to buy plane ticket? i can do the shoemaker th

bounce: ThickAsThieves: elites aren't egalitarian, you'll recall. some are more leet than others. :-) the point rather is that if you're an elite shoemaker and son of an elite shoemaker you should be able to get in on traits acquired by exposure to shoemaker, not by dint of birth. even though that birth helped you along.