danielpbarron: a transaction must refer to specific other transactions, or is a miner supposed to decide which coin days to destroy?
jurov: input is a reference to an output from a previous transaction. output is: a hash of a previous transaction + Index of the specific output in the referenced transaction.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: also, "mircea_popescu: Fucking horrid terminology, we really shouldn’t be in a situation where input and output means the same thing."
jurov: i messed that up as usual... so adgain: input is: a hash of a previous transaction + Index of the specific output in the referenced transaction.
pete_dushenski: speaking of nothing, are s.nsa and s.mg statements en route ?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck sort of braindamaged zombie idiot designs things like this ;/
punkman: and output is value + scriptpubkey
mircea_popescu: i never afore today realised this braindamage is actually in there ;/
☟︎ kakobrekla: if it werent so you could just phuck a txid and respend the address multiple time given it has balance
mircea_popescu: here asciilifeform, even more stuff to fix off your father's bitcoin.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this arrangement reminds me of mr bean's car door latch.
kakobrekla: no, because <mircea_popescu> a transaction that spends bitcoin from an address, that is signed and that has the bitcoin may never be rejected.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29956 @ 0.00049551 = 14.8435 BTC [+] {3}
kakobrekla: anyway i have a headache and im hungry so bbl.
mircea_popescu: nah, he drove a sort of british trabant. kept causing someone else's robin to overturrn
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22210 @ 0.0005022 = 11.1539 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: ima have the thing rescanned and resent. but god damned this has to be fixed omfg.
kakobrekla: phucked txes did not get removed from wallet file with rescan
☟︎ pete_dushenski: reliant robin is an excellent example of bitcoin as it works today : looks to have the right parts but has them in the wrong order and as a result it doesn't quite work as intended. compare this with the morgan 3-wheeler, which is perhaps where trb is headed, which has the same parts, but not welded together by apes.
punkman: electrum or other wallet should also work
kakobrekla: yes you need to remove bad txes from wallet.dat by removing them with some wallet inspector tool or use a backup from before bad txes came in
mircea_popescu: yeah, right, spending the 10's of k's to fix this is not good enough, ima commit to endless millions to have electrum audited to production environment level.
☟︎ pete_dushenski feels fortunate to not be in physical proximity to mp rage atm.
kakobrekla: btw at some point 'zapwallettxes' was added to bitcoind
kakobrekla: i have not tested it yet but this is suppose to fix that
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla fancy, "use a backup". yes, i have backups. and how the fuck do i identify which payments of the HUGE batch of bitbet payments for end of year were made and which weren't, so i don't end up doublepaying ?
kakobrekla: if you have the addresses you will get the txes
kakobrekla: > unconfirmed transactions relating to your own wallet addresses are stored not only in the memory pool, but in wallet.dat, so a restart won't clear them. To accomplish that, you can start bitcoind with the recently added -zapwallettxes option. This will cause bitcoind to forget all transactions associated to your addresses, and rescan the block chain to reconstruct them. In particular, any unconfirmed transactions will be forgotten and
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu as long as the backup contains all the used change addresses you are ok
mircea_popescu: gotta get a COMPETENT accountant to sit down and make a full list on fucking papert and then croiss them out and etc.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: well... so bitbet update : we went from "bitcoin is broken, will be fixed at an unspecified future date no earlier than 2020" to "bitcoin is borken, we might have a circumvention in place before the year is out".
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> no, because <mircea_popescu> a transaction that spends bitcoin from an address, that is signed and that has the bitcoin may never be rejected. << once one's accepted [some of] the others no longer are discussing an address that has the btc.
mircea_popescu: this is the correct format for a bitcoin transaction : "address i[1..n] send their total contents as follows : B1 to address j1, B2 to address j2, Bm to address jm. therefore signed."
kakobrekla: you can have multiple unspent outputs on an address, say 3x 1btc
kakobrekla: sign to move 1 btc from that address to another
kakobrekla: also, if you do not change something in the process of paying out bbet winning this thing is bound to repeat sooner or later.
☟︎ kakobrekla: "send their total contents as follows" now i noted the 'total' - then you must never reuse an address.
☟︎ assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 23:42:35; mircea_popescu: i am not in the business of debugging the blockchain, really. i am in the business of making payments. i can in fact prove that i did sign a transaction, from an address that had the coin, to the addresses that should get it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64000 @ 0.00049275 = 31.536 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 23:57:31; mircea_popescu: a transaction that spends bitcoin from an address, that is signed and that has the bitcoin may never be rejected.
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 00:06:03; mircea_popescu: i never afore today realised this braindamage is actually in there ;/
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 00:06:18; mircea_popescu: here asciilifeform, even more stuff to fix off your father's bitcoin.
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 00:09:03; kakobrekla: phucked txes did not get removed from wallet file with rescan
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 00:10:34; mircea_popescu: yeah, right, spending the 10's of k's to fix this is not good enough, ima commit to endless millions to have electrum audited to production environment level.
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 00:16:10; mircea_popescu: we're talking ~400k fiats here or some shit.
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 00:15:36; mircea_popescu: gotta get a COMPETENT accountant to sit down and make a full list on fucking papert and then croiss them out and etc.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla no, the only thing an address can do is send its whole contents.
mircea_popescu: protocol suffers from the same pass-by-reference issues the codebase suffers from.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski re the missing reports : i do intend to publish them asap. been delayed by an assortment of issues such as argentinian power, bitbet adventures etc. they'll get there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the correct solution is to keep a table.
mircea_popescu: fundamental problem here is that bitcoin started life trying to be "gold for the poor".
mircea_popescu: you gotta choose. either for the poor and then shit, or else gold but not for the poor.
mircea_popescu: if i were anyone else other than me i'd have a head the size of kamcheatka by now.
jurov: mircea_popescu: to get rid of blockchain and address problems, and have richcoin, just use csv file with noodles of gpg signatures
mircea_popescu: the point fucking stands : the only correct solution to the problem is have nodes keep a table of balances.
mircea_popescu: annoying problems don't go away just because we don't want to have them.
jurov: asciilifeform: mirca just decreed nobody will ever need more than N addresses
mircea_popescu: jurov what "body" "needs" ain't got the substance of ghost spit yo!
jurov: perhaps N=640k , even :D
mircea_popescu: you're telling me the apple's up in the tree as if i was the one that put it there.
mircea_popescu: all i'm sayin' is that the current "better" solution to that problem is a) worse and b) unspecifiedly so.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54445 @ 0.00050305 = 27.3886 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: no, i am in full agreement. it's not fixable for a while yet.
mircea_popescu: but i think merely the point that it's broken is worth stating. because apparently the people that understand it's broken didn't know it worked like this (me) and the people that knew how it worked... well... got seduced.
mircea_popescu: if we admit this was deliberate rather than "oh look what i can do! &^*p!"
mircea_popescu: incidentally, speaking of this : are you aware, for a chuckle, that leveldb "replaced" bdb in bitcoin in the sense that... not. because bdb is still linked because used for wallet.
mircea_popescu: so... "let's keep all the holes we had and add a whole new layer!"
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 00:45:07; asciilifeform: as a very wealthy usg-dod consultant once said to me, 'i don't give a flying fuck whether it is the democrats, the republicans, or the lesbians, who win'
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 00:31:31; asciilifeform: and the last time a muppet-in-chief tried to actually rule, his wife ended up picking up pieces of his head
mircea_popescu: if they don't care then not shooting anyone. if shooting anyone, then yes they care.
assbot: Logged on 16-08-2014 21:39:02; asciilifeform: 'mr carter, you aren't cleared for this, and if you ask again there will be problems.'
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2014 13:57:10; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember the story about gorby and andropov?
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 00:55:42; asciilifeform: wake me up when moscow is air-supplying oregon phortress of phreeeeedom with SAM rockets, food, and cheap whores every 48h - like usg is resupplying kiev
mircea_popescu: last i visited kharkov, nice student chicks sat topless in the windows of the "student campus" buildings, 20 dollars.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "deprives the most significant investors in companies their ability"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00050306 = 3.1693 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: Also checking the spam que, fucking NBA and Lebron James are spamming SEO to their actual domains
mircea_popescu: " and then you look at the code and it's the same set of aggressive, google employed queergenders." << actually yes.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: google is much more successful than ms ever was at "shit on open source".
mircea_popescu: and since they own 1/13 or so of the fed printing press, they can keep "paying them" to do it.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> l0l those are spam keywordz! << But url is nba website's lebron james profile
☟︎ mircea_popescu: oh, wait. it's a large binary turd that somehow runs as a binary turd on your gentoo ?
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 03:36:41; dbclk: and i like trading to be honest apart from the fact i'm loosing money
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 01:42:13; BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> l0l those are spam keywordz! << But url is nba website's lebron james profile
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 03:43:44; dbclk: and you also dont use patterns as well? anyone here use trading patterns?
mircea_popescu: tell you what, basescu's (ro president for many years) gal (elena udrea) spent half her time on this shit.
mircea_popescu: to sum it up, not everyone in the wow's playing a warlock.
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2015 01:19:34; mircea_popescu: "she's been going through 6-7k each month since autumn, but i get to go visit p diddy whenever i feel like it. it's a wash"
mircea_popescu: that said, i'm null for pouches. and "i know shoes" but not in the sense chicks usually mean.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla if people are still emailing you re bitbet : it seems currently that the whole shebang should be done before the weekend. with apologies to all the users who got their payouts delayed.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: thestringpuller / shinohai / whoever has a tardstalk acct, plox let 'em know too kthx.
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 15:46:58; ascii_butugychag: 'Filippo Valsorda. I'm Italian and I work on the CloudFlare Security Team in London. I built the public Heartbleed test and I mess with cryptography. Public speaker. Motorbike rider. Frequent flyer. Hacker School F'13.'
mircea_popescu: do you ever wonder why ambitious but lazy, fat but stupid "feminists" "genderqueer" blabla never win miss america ?
mircea_popescu: for one thing, they're too old. for the other... wut ?
mircea_popescu: you think the verbose explanation provided by the evil guy in b movies is irl ?
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 00:14:58; kakobrekla: re that zapwallet
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 16:03:37; ascii_butugychag: 'This is annoying if, as sometimes happens, the most important aspect is a singularity. Worse is the view offered by fans of the program (not necessarily WRI employees!) that an answer is correct because it is what Mathematica computes, and any view to the contrary is the fault of the user (perhaps for misunderstanding the documentation.)'
BingoBoingo spzs that alternative to burn it all down right now, is make less retarded "electrum server/wallet" software pair. server runs with node, wallet runs on machine connected with rs-232, bitcoind relays transaction and feeds server blockchain
☟︎ mircea_popescu: that "mp is mean" ? we know. that "being sensitive is nice and vice-versa" ? we also know.
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 02:03:27; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla if people are still emailing you re bitbet : it seems currently that the whole shebang should be done before the weekend. with apologies to all the users who got their payouts delayed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ocasionally an elephant takes flight with a flock of passing geese
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 16:03:08; asciilifeform: 'Martin and Mitchell's effects reveal their interest and activity in photography, music, Russian language, French, and travel. Mitchell also possesses much athletic and sporting equipment, firearms, and a large liquor supply.'
assbot: Logged on 24-12-2015 15:46:13; asciilifeform: 'Martin is said to have criticized American women and marital laws. Martin and Mitchell have both been described as socially awkward and Mitchell has been described as unsophisticated and naive about the practical world.' (p.60)
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 20:48:23; pete_dushenski: if not better, seeing as how white kids are used to lavish finished basements all to themselves and aren't used to the sardine lifestyle
mircea_popescu: the experience'd benefit western idjit kids immensely.
mircea_popescu: straightn out basic things such as "am i overweight" "what is rape" etc.
mircea_popescu: infantilized drone barely capable to serve as a man's prince albert.
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 21:18:47; jurov: sigh. namecheap is really a caricature now. clicked refresh icon in the domains list, and it replied:
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically, 10 yos didn't have a daddy, will get a daddy when they're 20. for them and the wife.
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 21:21:57; ascii_butugychag: this is a pretty good idea for a student project - write a thingy that connects to a node and asks for a tx
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the woman that is there to dock his paychecks later on.
mircea_popescu: very easy for western muppet to get married. ask ukr chick.
assbot: Logged on 06-01-2016 21:35:48; ascii_butugychag: if bitbet is sufficiently roboticized, (is it?) this kind of situation is engineerable
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 00:42:19; asciilifeform: pay for it to happen.
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 00:33:00; kakobrekla: also, if you do not change something in the process of paying out bbet winning this thing is bound to repeat sooner or later.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re german penis ornaments : in fairness merely a coupla centuries ago their grandfathers went to congo or wherever and used the local boys in exactly the same manner, and for exactly the same reason.
assbot: REVEALED: 1,000+ Migrants Brawl, Rape, Sexually Assault, And Steal At ONE German Train Station On New Year's Eve ... (
http://bit.ly/1mHybvR )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53500 @ 0.00049879 = 26.6853 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: anyway, jack baruth dude's puttign way too much pressure on the kid.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a large pile of transactions bitbet is making, which are the topic of that conversation.
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 02:38:57; mircea_popescu: this is how one "pays for company to happen" : holds shares.
mircea_popescu: but if you print them and i hodl them, i will be correct in saying that i invested their value in ftl flight.
mircea_popescu: mno. that pov is "pot-investment". ie, since i put 5 dollars in the pot, i own 5 dollars in the pot.
mircea_popescu: which is why whether i bought a bitcoin for a dollar or for a thousand, my current holding value for a bitcoin is still whatever ELSE i could get for a bitcoin
mircea_popescu: "2) a large fleet of submarines currently being equipped with supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles (a capability the US Navy still lacks) for holding the “barbarians” at a distance from the fight;" << heh. let's best not talk about that.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00049731 = 11.4879 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: looky : you can try and package this until the cows come home. there shall never be an acceptable excuse.
mircea_popescu: freedom's inside as in "by the fact that your plane's landing in your building will you know the free man".
mircea_popescu: not freedom's inside as in the pic of two dudes from earlier.
mircea_popescu: everything's, to date, very fucking carefully avoided flying into me.
mircea_popescu: plenty of close encounters, like with everything else.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52543 @ 0.00049731 = 26.1302 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: if tomorrow i go marry p diddy and dedicate my days to writing pop-rap, exactly nothing will have changed on this score.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30174 @ 0.00050311 = 15.1808 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25800 @ 0.00050477 = 13.0231 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10449 @ 0.00050479 = 5.2746 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23250 @ 0.00050514 = 11.7445 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00050519 = 9.4976 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00049708 = 1.8641 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53250 @ 0.0004967 = 26.4493 BTC [-]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 439.99, vol: 7914.88388458 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 437.749, vol: 6883.73852 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 440.55, vol: 22428.33726691 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 438.108083, vol: 56351.94240000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 437.13, vol: 53.52266739 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 441.456, vol: 41.83891888 | Volume-weighted last average: 438.826307837
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13845 @ 0.00050519 = 6.9944 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00049667 = 9.4616 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00049676 = 6.905 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45763 @ 0.00050521 = 23.1199 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7621 @ 0.00050558 = 3.853 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64500 @ 0.00049594 = 31.9881 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00050543 = 22.9971 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22392 @ 0.00050559 = 11.3212 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38408 @ 0.00050647 = 19.4525 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62050 @ 0.000506 = 31.3973 BTC [-] {8}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55951 @ 0.00050151 = 28.06 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80732 @ 0.00050046 = 40.4031 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00050239 = 6.6818 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.00050251 = 19.0703 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69344 @ 0.0005046 = 34.991 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89648 @ 0.00051246 = 45.941 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24908 @ 0.00051531 = 12.8353 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50861 @ 0.00050332 = 25.5994 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55850 @ 0.00050273 = 28.0775 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63471 @ 0.00050108 = 31.804 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 02:13:30; asciilifeform: google open sores works rather like 'here have a bag of $$$, do whatever you like, but you can be poettering and you definitely cannot be jurov, asciilifeform, ben_vulpes'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25092 @ 0.00050046 = 12.5575 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 02:14:08; *: BingoBoingo spzs that alternative to burn it all down right now, is make less retarded "electrum server/wallet" software pair. server runs with node, wallet runs on machine connected with rs-232, bitcoind relays transaction and feeds server blockchain
jurov: whether "stratum" protocol fits in head for easy control, that's another question.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9882 @ 0.00049404 = 4.8821 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00050028 = 6.4036 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17811 @ 0.00050131 = 8.9288 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.00049401 = 12.2514 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17845 @ 0.0005013 = 8.9457 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: kakobrekla: it's easily extensible
jurov: Stratum protocol is based on JSON-RPC 2.0 (although it doesn’t include “jsonrpc” information in every message).
jurov: “This will be something that sits on top of all the ledgers and abstracts the differences,” says Ripple chief technology officer Stefan Thomas. “We’re trying to create a global standard for payments.”
jurov: they ran off with alf's meta-nsa idea :D
punkman: wtf does it do, some kind of cross-chain mutlisig?
kakobrekla: they just keep making up new shits as upgrades to the previous shits and juicing the vcs
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42489 @ 0.00050005 = 21.2466 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00049557 = 2.354 BTC [-] {2}
jurov: um...okcupiddudes should be instructed to wait longer than 5 mins
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00049557 = 11.8193 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> ^ Tesla's over << you wouldn't have expected a govt agency not to muscle in sooner or later neh ?
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-01-2016#1361875 << you can, if you don't care about the risk someone will send you a new payment and miners will rearrange a block so that it goes t otheir fee. incidentally, this property of the correct design combined with the baseless butthurt of the power rangers over address reuse (in which they simply follow unthinkingly the humours of satoshi) suggests to me that the derp
☝︎ assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 00:34:40; kakobrekla: "send their total contents as follows" now i noted the 'total' - then you must never reuse an address.
mircea_popescu: ACTUALLY THOUGHT his design equivalent to the correct design in this aspect, and none of them meanwhile figured out the matter even exists so blindly follow.
mircea_popescu: also, jurov is exactly right. humans are monomaniacs by nature.
mircea_popescu: <jurov> “This will be something that sits on top of all the <<< dream of aparatchick. to "sit on top of all the". wherein "aparatchick" is defined as "one whose ambition exceeds his capacities".
kakobrekla: in the tx inputs on the tx address arent unambiguously specified you could reuse same signed statement "move x btc fom xa to ya"
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> they just keep making up new shits as upgrades to the previous shits and juicing the vcs << precisely.
mircea_popescu: jurov nah, let them give their own measure. i very much appreciate the exceptional filtering b-a provides for "hey man where could i talk to you i have an important business proposal".
mircea_popescu: "can i be your partner ?" etc. i pass along a webchat linl, problem solved.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13328 @ 0.00050004 = 6.6645 BTC [+] {2}
gribble: Current Blocks: 392162 | Current Difficulty: 1.0388034081545589E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 393119 | Next Difficulty In: 957 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 9 hours, 7 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43700 @ 0.00049557 = 21.6564 BTC [-]
shinohai: 4329 blocks to go. I might have an actual trb node by next week.
Chesterly: hey mirc. Are the end of the year bets that havent been confirmed being rebroadcast?
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 02:03:27; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla if people are still emailing you re bitbet : it seems currently that the whole shebang should be done before the weekend. with apologies to all the users who got their payouts delayed.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21150 @ 0.00049557 = 10.4813 BTC [-]
shinohai: ^ see? I haz learned the value of patience. BitBet users not so much.
Chesterly: i'm fine with being patient so long as i'm informed about the situation
Chesterly: seems bitbet is keeping users informed which is good
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you have patience to go througfh the logs it's prolly informative.
shinohai: If no one else is doing it I will keep posting updates to the bitcointalk thread with mah shiny new account.
shinohai: Lacking anything else to do lately.
mircea_popescu: idle hands are the devil's penises or how did that go shinohai
shinohai: I was already married once, do not wish to repeat.
mircea_popescu: the longest serving slavegirl is gonna celebrate decade mark soon, i attest the experience's been nothing short of pleasant.
shinohai: Besides, call girls are cheaper and less annoying.
mircea_popescu: shinohai yeah less annoying, perhaps, but do they suckle on your toes in lieu of wake-up alarm ? hm ?
shinohai: I like to be awoken with a good hummer >.>
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00049547 = 11.2472 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai: No official trb thread on bitcointalk, all this XT, bigger blocks, and segwit nonsense there too. :/
punkman: shinohai: that'd be good for some lulz
shinohai: Indeed. When I haz enough forum rank I'll even make a trb signature xD
shinohai: Heh they disallow pics for noobs now
jurov: i have an old account, unused for ~2 years, don't you want it?
punkman: "Google has fixed a bug in an online tool after it began translating "Russian Federation" to "Mordor"."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45150 @ 0.00050045 = 22.5953 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: <jurov> whether "stratum" protocol fits in head for easy control, that's another question. << A lot of this. I'm imagining and "electrum" that isn't actually electrum. i.e. not a big ball of whatever that desperately wants to advertise to the world exactly what it is. basically a different better database client setup. May break down and learn to make code enough to shit one out by 2030.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00049533 = 5.4734 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34640 @ 0.00050108 = 17.3574 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00050176 = 9.2324 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21400 @ 0.00049533 = 10.6001 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26772 @ 0.00049986 = 13.3823 BTC [+] {2}
Xplosionist: Mostly I wanted voice for a bit to ask about getting a bitbet resolved early.
Xplosionist: bet 1172 can only resolve "Yes" as of this past Sunday's football game, but the original resolution time is set to be after the Superbowl.
diametric: ascii_butugychag: Xplosionist is here, he's had some good fortune on bitbet
ascii_butugychag: interesting. unfortunately i don't know enough re: the sport to comment
Xplosionist: The regular season ended this past weekend. The post-season is all single elimintation.
Xplosionist: So, their record if 9-7, and they can lose a maximum of one more game (which they likely will in their first post-season game, but)
diametric: I see, so no matter what, the Redskins can only lose one more game, putting them at 9 wins, 8 losses, still making the bet resolve to yes. So theres no point in waiting until after the superbowl to resolve it?
Xplosionist: Yes diametric. Their worst posible conclustion would be 9-8. If they win more games, it will be better.
diametric: ;;rate Xplosionist 1 meatspace colleague, an actual verifiable human being.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Xplosionist has been recorded.
Xplosionist: (I don't think anyone expects them to beat the packers this weekend, but I kinda hope it might happen)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58500 @ 0.00049515 = 28.9663 BTC [-] {4}
Xplosionist: ;;rate diametric 1 coworker, verifiable human, smart guy
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user diametric has been recorded.
Xplosionist: So I just wanted to try that, so I can start the 48 hour timer on getting my reward for blind devotion. ;-)
Xplosionist: mircea_popescu: Can that bet be resolved now?
Xplosionist: diametric: You should trust asciilifeform, so there's a secondary path between us in WOT. :-)
diametric: at some point i'll sit down and figure out all the people i should jerk off in wot.
Xplosionist: danielpbarron: What's btcalpha.com, and why does it seem to have a different reading on WOT than bitcoin-otc.com?
mircea_popescu: Xplosionist bitbet's a little backed up at the moment, but prolly someone'll look into it sooner than lsater.
danielpbarron: Xplosionist, it's a different WoT that forked from the gribble one
mircea_popescu: Xplosionist the wot got forked almost exactly a year ago.
Xplosionist: mircea_popescu thanks. I'd just rather not have to wait a month plus.
shinohai: !v assbot:shinohai.rate.naphex.1:0d73d0627aad426c66808bbfaa61cf3f5e460e74dde8061cd1deac0ce69d6275
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for naphex with note: Brought together BTC and babes with xotika.tv
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29368 @ 0.00049678 = 14.5894 BTC [+] {2}
Xplosionist: And bitcoin is sharply up today, I notice. This is a good thing.
diametric: I'm guessing speculation related to the chinese market crash.
Xplosionist: for the day? Bitstamp is up 20+, so that would be surprising.
Xplosionist: oh, you likely meant the server, not the reported BTC value. :-)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5351 @ 0.0004942 = 2.6445 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39499 @ 0.00049367 = 19.4995 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00049669 = 9.2136 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82629 @ 0.00049367 = 40.7915 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25148 @ 0.00049279 = 12.3927 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 453.01, vol: 14445.88527525 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 453.89, vol: 46846.83436107 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 441.0, vol: 2.1 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 451.973463, vol: 82328.44740000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 450.16011, vol: 88.77511911 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 456.319135, vol: 86.94295586 | Volume-weighted last average: 452.703309505
punkman: "The simple message Mr. Bundy and his band must hear is this: If everyone with a gripe against the government responded by threatening federal officials with weapons, America would no longer be a nation governed by the rule of law. Their grievances, like everyone else’s, can be addressed. But not before they put down the guns."
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00049234 = 18.7582 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: Though that is a sweet hatchet, I dun have a titanium one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30133 @ 0.00049683 = 14.971 BTC [+] {2}
mod6: jurov: did you ever figure out anything with that segfault -- weather data corrupted or isolated to local changes to bitcoind for mempool investigation?
jurov: no, did not work on that yet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00049684 = 2.5836 BTC [+]
mod6: no, i've never seen anything like that. have stopped R.I. (sometimes for weeks at a time) then restarted without issue, lots of times. just been following along in here. just was curious.
mod6: been trying to follow up with a whole bunch of things from here actually. including this tx thing from yesterday. i've been going through the raw txs and drawing diagrams myself.
mod6: what's strange, at least to me, is why tx d8e60a097 seemed to u tx ebc5d7688 as its prev_hash instead of tx 09e82c06, which was accepted and added to block 391,657.
punkman: mod6, because teh wallet sucks
mod6: all of this 94 blocks after tx 9de6a04788
mod6: punkman: yeah, without digging into the code yet, it certainly appears that way.
mod6: s/seemed to u tx/seemed to use tx/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104631 @ 0.00049927 = 52.2391 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3709 @ 0.00050254 = 1.8639 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9455 @ 0.00050253 = 4.7514 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58568 @ 0.00050272 = 29.4433 BTC [+] {2}
punkman: "If the game detects it was pirated, it will throw up a fake error message stating "Unable to shade polygon normals", which is not actually an error that can occur. The "error code" provided with the message will be equivalent to the pirate's Steam ID, causing many pirates to out themselves posting the error and its code on the official Garry's Mod forums, resulting in a ban from Steam."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16615 @ 0.00050046 = 8.3151 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9271 @ 0.00049736 = 4.611 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108779 @ 0.00050404 = 54.829 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13671 @ 0.0004915 = 6.7193 BTC [-] {3}
jurov: "One valve is mounted on each spermatic duct and disrupts the flow of sperm cells when closed. The user is then sterile, can wear the Bimek SLV for a life time and regulate it himself with just a flip of a switch."
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Or if you want male birth control you could just blast trenbolone for great justice
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38048 @ 0.00050509 = 19.2177 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo sure Big Child Support Industry is only reason effective male birth control is not available otc in pharmacies
☟︎ assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28967 @ 0.00049414 = 14.3138 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26177 @ 0.00049189 = 12.8762 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30621 @ 0.00049094 = 15.0331 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00049111 = 9.2329 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00049111 = 13.8493 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.0004904 = 14.0254 BTC [-] {2}
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 454.64, vol: 15490.75269341 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 451.575, vol: 10222.81119 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 455.98, vol: 51728.15078022 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 440.0, vol: 2.84 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 453.736217, vol: 85256.03370000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 453.0, vol: 131.78954268 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 457.567916, vol: 92.48171251 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.0004935 = 8.6363 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: my new node 'tevye' is now synced (took <7 days) and 8333 is open : 162.220.15.184
pete_dushenski: though rapidly running out of disk space... currently on the hunt for new vps provider.
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 456.15, Best ask: 456.36, Bid-ask spread: 0.21000, Last trade: 456.2, 24 hour volume: 51612.52325862, 24 hour low: 427.03, 24 hour high: 459.0, 24 hour vwap: None
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mod6 thanks for all your help with the node set-up, it worked like a charm :)
mod6: np, glad to hear it :]
pete_dushenski: though, obviously since it's "0.5.4", bitnodes.io claims utter ignorance of tevye's existence
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: "if wealth is a curse let god smite me down with it! and let me never recover!"
mircea_popescu: o btw, you know the joke with the xtian, muslim and jew discussing religion ?
mircea_popescu: so these three fellows are siting around extolling their respective faiths and the merits of the respective chief figurehead.
mircea_popescu: xtian explains how one day he was walking down the street, and he saw the most beautiful woman.
mircea_popescu: so he followed her, and as he was going prayed the lord, "my god, do not let me fall into sin for this woman". so as god had it the woman turned a corner, there was a church, she went in, they were married and it was all good.
mircea_popescu: muslim goes : well, i saw this great horse. best horse i've ever seen.
mircea_popescu: except his fucking owner wouldn\t sell it no matter what. so i prayed to the prophet, that i may not fall into sin for this horse. so allah intervened, the horse dropped dead and all was well.
mircea_popescu: the jew explains : one sabbath day, i was going down the street and lo! there was a hundred dollars on the ground.
mircea_popescu: so he prayed to yahweh, "oh lord, do not let me fall into sin in the holy day of sabbath". and lo and behold, all around him was suddenly wednesday.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15258 @ 0.00049016 = 7.4789 BTC [-] {2}
davout: mircea_popescu: good one
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55000 @ 0.00049365 = 27.1508 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21650 @ 0.0004937 = 10.6886 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19050 @ 0.00049434 = 9.4172 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: anyone in teh us wanna order a flowers delivery for me ?
shinohai: Dear YHWH please help me locate the proper firmware for my wifi
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2016 00:01:37; mircea_popescu: motherfucker what ?!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31470 @ 0.00049434 = 15.5569 BTC [+]
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell bingoboingo no source cited for hajj ban ?