assbot: Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.
benkay: feature's still around, kakobrekla
benkay: okay so more gpg derpery
benkay: got a master key, got a signing subkey
benkay: i push master key id/pubkey to keyservers?
benkay: then point gribble at the signing key?
benkay: mircea_popescu pankkake ping
pankkake: if you push the master key id it will push everything, at least by default
benkay: send-keys seems to fail for some reason
pankkake: and you give gribble the master key id. however, you can then sign/decrypt with the other keys by themselves
benkay: mkay lets try this again...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29284 @ 0.00096801 = 28.3472 BTC [+] {5}
pankkake: perhaps you have a wrong keyserver in the config
benkay: no, it's pushing correctly - my mistake.
pankkake: I'm falling asleep, nighty night
benkay: fuck everything gpg says my sig is fine fuck you gribble
pankkake: if you just pushed, it might take a while for it to appear in all the servers
benkay: i'll give it a few, thanks, pankkake
assbot: Voicing mike_c for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing benkay for 30 minutes.
mike_c: ;;echo drunk in production
BingoBoingo: “If you pay $7,500, you ought to be able to bring out a quesadilla,” Miller said.
assbot: Can't do that, kakobrekla.
assbot: kakobrekla, benkay is already voiced.
assbot: kakobrekla, benkay is already voiced.
assbot: Can't do that, BingoBoingo.
assbot: Can't do that, benkay.
assbot: benkay, benkay is already voiced.
assbot: Can't do that, benkay.
assbot: Voicing kakobrekla for 30 minutes.
assbot: Can't do that, kakobrekla.
assbot: Can't do that, artifexd.
assbot: artifexd, benkay is not voiced.
assbot: Can't do that, benkay.
assbot: benkay, artifexed is not voiced.
benkay: funny, why do i get to up kako?
assbot: Voicing ka for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing kakobrekla for 30 minutes.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00096337 = 11.6568 BTC [-]
assbot: Can't do that, artifexd.
assbot: artifexd, kakobrekla is already voiced.
assbot: Can't do that, kakobrekla.
assbot: Can't do that, artifexd.
assbot: Can't do that, artifexd.
artifexd: Seems like it is working fine.
assbot: Can't do that, mircea_popescu.
artifexd: benkay is already voiced so I can't up him, right?
assbot: kakobrekla, benkay is not voiced.
assbot: artifexd, ArtyFact is not voiced.
assbot: artifexd, mircea_popescu is not voiced.
mircea_popescu: i totaly loved the fact that one could voice self thus becoming vulnerable to devoicing by others.
artifexd: But you didn't like that one could be revoiced by others thus becoming vulnerable to devoicing by others?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5945 = 1.189 BTC [-]
benkay: serialized to the wire
benkay: kakobrekla: can you get gribble voiced in here in the meantime?
assbot: Can't do that, mircea_popescu.
assbot: Voicing Duffer1 for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: benkay srsly, social engineering attack, emptied wallet ?
benkay: what 2fa thing are we talking about? that which my boys decrappified or the blockchain 2fa breach?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06201312 = 0.3101 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: "my gf would never cheat on me. unless someone asked her to, of course."
Duffer1: thanks for the heads up mircea i'll check it out after i get something to eat
benkay: blockchain owes the poor doctors in a big way.
benkay: mircea_popescu: "almost 23.5"
benkay: almost an mpex seat lol
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00095967 = 4.6064 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Can't do that, gribble.
gribble: kakobrekla mircea_popescu nice re assbot and voice stuff. :)
kakobrekla: apparently freenode will force devoice when you change nicks
kakobrekla: i didnt know that, neeed to change some things.
gribble: how does one gain voice without having it, though? can't send !up t channel.
assbot: Voicing on for 30 minutes.
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
assbot: Voicing nanotube for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing cgcardona_ for 30 minutes.
nanotube: mircea_popescu, yea kakobrekla already told me. :) cool stuff.
mircea_popescu: it seems very clever, im curious if it'll end in tears
assbot: Voicing KRS-1 for 30 minutes.
artifexd: Is the wot chain examined once and cached forever (or X amount of time) or each time someone issues an up command?
mircea_popescu: artifexd i imagine assbot queries gribble, which caches for about half a minute iirc.
artifexd: Ok. I was wondering about if someone gets rated, such that he/she can self-voice, and then turns out to be an asshat, will unrating them remove their self-voicing ability.
mircea_popescu: artifexd tbh i suspect this is more of an anti-derpage measure than an anti-asshat measure
KRS-1: yea but i lost my damned key when my life got turned upside down recently..been going through some shit personally
KRS-1: wondering when its going to f'n stop
benkay: i wonder if there's a critical mass in here to keep conversational inertia
KRS-1: what happens to my abortioned wot account
cgcardona_: mircea_popescu: the other day you mentioned w/ regards to reincarnation/afterlife/nirvana having people hash by hand until they find a block. I've been thinking about that. I'm guessing the difficulty would be based on their overall level of derpage?
mircea_popescu: cgcardona_ many years ago, towards the end of training this english major / drama girl how to math, she had to do multiplications, 10 digit by 10 digit
mircea_popescu: pen on paper. she could go through a few dozen befpre falling over
KRS-1: might as well rely on intuition or magic.
KRS-1: yes im pretty sure
mircea_popescu: KRS-1 then you can just log with the btc addy and reg a new gpg key.
mircea_popescu: prolly should do that asap, too, before you also lose the key
KRS-1: mircea_popescu did you patch your ssl
KRS-1: what did jurov say anything? its pretty important
assbot: Voicing dub for 30 minutes.
assbot: dub, Ho's is not voiced.
benkay: hey everyone half a minute of your attention
gribble: Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~user@71-214-87-217.ptld.qwest.net', is identified as user 'benkay', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None
dub: cbf spinning up vm to auth
assbot: Voicing AndrewJackson for 30 minutes.
benkay: may i improve your experience in any way before i jet over to the parents to make my little brother's new girlfriend exceedingly uncomfortable?
benkay: you've seen plenty of her, mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: lol who are we to stand in the way of the disconfort of your little brother's gf.
benkay: ye've a few minutes yet
mircea_popescu: also i wonder what level btc must reach for benkay to afford windows.
mircea_popescu: i mean the rooflessness i can see, it's for the hairdo
benkay: har as if lady v would tolerate such inadequate drapes
assbot: Voicing [\\\] for 30 minutes.
[\]: it didin't work as assbot_sucks either
[\]: [2014/04/11 20:45:59] <assbot_sucks> !up
[\]: [2014/04/11 20:46:01] <assbot> You must auth with gribble first.
[\]: [2014/04/11 20:46:16] <assbot_sucks> !up
[\]: [2014/04/11 20:46:17] <assbot> You must auth with gribble first.
[\]: but I was auth'd the whole time
gribble: Error: "\\\" is not a valid command.
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick '[\\\]', with hostmask '[\\\]!\\\]@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick '[\\\]', with hostmask '[\\\]!\\\]@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
[\]: doesn't affect my auth
[\]: your bot doesn't handle special characters
[\]: thats a security issue
mircea_popescu: [\\\] it's not my bot unless it did something cool. otherwise it's kakobrekla's. and moreover, it'd seem gribble passes it an error.
[\]: mircea_popescu: you're missing the point
[\]: my nick as assbot_sucks, but auth'd was failing too
[\]: which has nothing to do with [\\\]
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'assbot_sucks', with hostmask 'assbot_sucks!\\\]@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
assbot: Need a nickname, assbot_sucks.
gribble: Error: "\\\" is not a valid command.
benkay: mircea_popescu: the reason for debian gpg instructions is that the default gnupg keygen process creates a key that decrypts only
kakobrekla: ok so apparently adding quotes hapls if you have a retarded nickname
benkay: entering 'expert mode' is req'd apparently to get a xor'd key
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'assbot_sucks', with hostmask 'assbot_sucks!\\\]@unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user 'imsaguy', with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM
Blazedout419: ugh reading bitcoin-assets.com...then browsing all the sites makes me feel stupid
mircea_popescu: and if you nick to imsaguy and up then nick to slash does it devoice ?
[\]: because half of them are shit
[\]: Blazedout419: thats why you pay people
[\]: kakobrekla: probably same breakage?
assbot: Can't do that, mircea_popescu.
[\]: no, chanserv handles fine
kakobrekla: cause when i change nick when voiced, it devoices me
[\]: aww, ozbot is bannished
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
[\]: oh, because of the protected users?
kakobrekla: channel setting? we are on same channel
[\]: What is failing? the bot not devoicing when you switch nicks?
[\]: but according to chanserv, its no thre anymore
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4895 @ 0.00096366 = 4.7171 BTC [+]
[\]: try /cs set #bitcoin-assets secure off
[\]: help references only op and halfop, but freenode really doesn't have halfop
[\]: so I'm guessing its playing with voice
benkay: lady v and i are off to the rye, champagne, and discomfort of the budding youth!
assbot: Voicing kakobrekla for 30 minutes.
[\]: now the rename for the win
[\]: I'd say ask in #freenode, but you're likely to get helped by a bunch of overachievers that doen't know the real answer
[\]: kakobrekla, I think its assbot doing a /cs devoice
[\]: I don't think its something chanserv is doing on its own
assbot: kakobrekla, [\\\] is not voiced.
mircea_popescu: * ChanServ gives channel operator status to mircea_popescu
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59012389 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: i suspect something else, but its just a hunch
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.588 = 1.176 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Voicing imsaguy for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing "[\\\\\\]" for 30 minutes.
assbot: [\\\], "[\\\\\\ is not voiced.
assbot: [\\\], "[\\\\\\" is not voiced.
assbot: mircea_popescu, [\\\] is not voiced.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.585 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: interfuckin with irc is not really clean.
assbot: Voicing [\\\] for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing KRS-1 for 30 minutes.
gribble: vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 2 days, 3 hours, 5 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <Vexual> lasers in the eye is never good tat
assbot: Voicing TestingUnoDosTre for 30 minutes.
gribble: Error: "guide" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "turtle" is not a valid command.
assbot: Voicing xdotcommer for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing joesmoe for 30 minutes.
kakobrekla: i will need to rewrite this. tomorrow.
kakobrekla: but i found some issues and i will redo the thing.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell nubbins` and so i pass the torch of upping noobs to you, for i am old and tired
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00096132 = 12.1126 BTC [-] {2}
mike_c: phew, i jumped the hurdles.
mike_c: for the record, i first tried "!up mike_c" and got a cryptic error message from assbot. must do just "!up"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7916 @ 0.00097098 = 7.6863 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2050 @ 0.00097209 = 1.9928 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 335 @ 0.00068998 = 0.2311 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.049 = 0.147 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 331 @ 0.00068999 = 0.2284 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8984 @ 0.00097209 = 8.7333 BTC [+]
artifexd: Hmm... nickserv won't let me change my nick to ┗(°0°)┛
assbot: Can't do that, artifexd.
assbot: Voicing pankkake for 30 minutes.
fluffypony: artifexd: so change it to to-da-mooooon instead?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0495 = 0.1485 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.034 = 0.102 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0495 = 0.1485 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.08299776 = 0.249 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00564186 = 0.4513 BTC [-] {9}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1320 @ 0.00014513 = 0.1916 BTC [-] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2142 @ 0.000061 = 0.1307 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 104 @ 0.0016 = 0.1664 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59486385 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 272 @ 0.00068999 = 0.1877 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 63 @ 0.00579668 = 0.3652 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 716 @ 0.00019989 = 0.1431 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0659997 = 0.264 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0659998 = 0.462 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00097237 = 4.8619 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.04974249 = 0.199 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
jurov: whoa now the chan is also secret?
fluffypony: private = doesn't show up in whois unless you're on the same channel as the user you're whois'ing ?
pankkake: most freenode channels are +s, might be a default
fluffypony: "It's just XML, what could probably go wrong?"
jurov: i only hope there is no such feature in json
fluffypony: JSON is an actual data store, XML can't decide if it's a data store or a language
pankkake: json is safe. beware of its cousin yaml though
Anduck: why did i have to !up again?
jurov: cuz gribble deauthed you?
jurov: but assbot is still buggy, too
fluffypony: Anduck: you're automatically devoiced after 30 mins
Anduck: fluffypony: what's the idea with tht?
jurov: fluffypony: auther people in the WoT are devoiced too?
pankkake: I think it was just because of assbot testing
fluffypony: jurov: I was under that impression, but I may have misunderstood when kakobrekla was explaining it
Anduck: the whole thing is over-complicated and therefore SUCKS
fluffypony: Anduck: -otc would be great if it was +m, because !voiceme only requires auth with gribble
jurov: benka'y missing manul doesn't mention it either
Anduck: what would +m change there?
Anduck: and scammers do most of the scamming by pming
Anduck: i see no reason for +m there
fluffypony: shame that one guy that got scammed by Scott Harding lost his PayPal dispute
jurov: they can pm. we can do a cartel agreement to ask them 5BTC fee >:]
gribble slaps pankkake with a gone to waste pygmy
jurov: yes, beauty of free markets..everyone who tries to undercut the cartel will get beaten
Anduck: pm me and pay 0.01 btc to me to get voiced here
jurov: *everyone unrates Anduck*
pankkake: while scammers PM, at least they won't pollute the channels
pankkake: I'm always annoyed by their poor spelled requests
jurov: we can remember yesterday as bitcoin-assets gentrification day
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 665 @ 0.00018001 = 0.1197 BTC [-] {4}
jurov: "as the conference approaches, mp stepped up his repression against dissent"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2190 @ 0.00017981 = 0.3938 BTC [-] {5}
jurov: Bitcoin Bourse Saturday 12.4.2014 - New Shares: Abacus Cloud Hashing "ACH"
jurov: altcoin IPO? that's new high i guess
pankkake: eh, I wish I could come to the conference but it's a really bad time for me
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00097586 = 11.076 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55266 @ 0.00097538 = 53.9054 BTC [-] {2}
fluffypony: They give almost no data on the Abacus site
fluffypony: But they've already sold 2 of the shares at 3 BTC each
jurov: where do you see it?
jurov: i see, there's 98 on bid side.. but they could have done that on purpose because the bourse does not publish trades
fluffypony: But why not fudge trade data then? At least they'd have a semblance of legitimacy
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
jurov: absolutely no asks....
fluffypony: Heh - at least that XXXProfit dude seems to consistently be paying dividends
fluffypony: jurov: Nobody asks because every announcement thread is locked
fluffypony: It's almost like they don't want discussion
pankkake: yeah. I hope it doesn't give too much confidence to those investors
jurov: markus definitely does not want discussion
fluffypony: We should just create self-moderated discussion threads for each of the "securities"
fluffypony: That way nobody will be stupid enough to invest without reading the discussion thread
jurov: no need to increase their publicity
jurov: that thing needs to stay obscure and silently die
pankkake: self-moderated, locked threads = scam. there's no legitimate reason
jurov: on bitcointa.lk the locks don't apply, you can comment there
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 461 @ 0.0006 = 0.2766 BTC [-] {4}
fluffypony: Self moderated threads can be useful to keep stuff on topic if it's being trolled, and moderating legitimate concerns just ends up with someone starting an unmoderated discussion thread
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 539 @ 0.0006 = 0.3234 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00096688 = 8.3152 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 754 @ 0.0006 = 0.4524 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 245 @ 0.00056126 = 0.1375 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11285 @ 0.00096177 = 10.8536 BTC [-]
assbot: Voicing BCB for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing bounce for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing cazalla for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing bloctoc for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing cmyers_ for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing danielpbarron for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing deadweasel for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing diametric for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing dignork for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing FabianB_ for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing fanquake for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing joecool for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing keonne for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing lampelina for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing mikaeldice for 30 minutes.
assbot: Can't do that, mircea_popescu.
assbot: Voicing Naphex for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing numerisTrade for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing pizzaman1338 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing punkman for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing Rulother for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing TomServo for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing turbo_ac100 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing wao-ender for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing zacm for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: ok so dear all i've just highlighted : you understand how to get voice for yourselves ?
assbot: Voicing [KS] for 30 minutes.
cazalla: yeah, shame MisterE departed because of this change
jurov: lol rather document it somewhere and PM everyone the link
jurov: i'd write up but imma run afk, it's weeeekend
mircea_popescu: jurov well also gives ppl the oportunity to rage at me.
punkman: I was like "aww I'm not in assbot's WOT", then I noticed assbot rated me :)
fluffypony: does every shitty Windows/web IRC client even notify you if you say something in a room that's +m and you're -v ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, teh idea isn't to piss people off in any case.
fluffypony: yeah, I bet robcheesewhizz22 thought he was responding to us yesterday :-P
mircea_popescu: truth of the matter is, as kakobrekla said yest, this irc interfacing thing is far from smooth
assbot: Need a nickname, fluffypony.
assbot: fluffypony, fluffypony is not voiced.
assbot: Can't do that, mircea_popescu.
mircea_popescu: poor kako. what originally seemed like a coupla hour's lark is by now threatening to swallow the entire week
fluffypony: so CloudFlare's Heartbleed challenge was broken by two researchers
ozbot: The Results of the CloudFlare Challenge | CloudFlare Blog
fluffypony: "The first valid submission was received at 4:22:01PST by Software Engineer Fedor Indutny. He sent at least 2.5 million requests over the course of the day. The second was submitted at 5:12:19PST by Ilkka Mattila at NCSC-FI, who sent around a hundred thousand requests over the same period of time."
mircea_popescu: Anduck why overcomplicated, cause gotta id with gribble and pm assbot ie, two things ?
assbot: Voicing KRS-One for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing jakov for 30 minutes.
Anduck: mircea_popescu: indeed
Anduck: not many know about gribble, gpg, otc, wot, assbot or anything related to these things
Anduck: still they might know about bitcoin and bitcoin assets
cazalla: Anduck: ones excuse, anothers motivation to learn
fluffypony: Anduck: in -otc we're constantly linking people to the beginner's guide, and they learn to register with gribble quickly
Anduck: it's not +m and planned to not be
fluffypony: but people come in and get confused about gribble and all that
fluffypony: so the beginners guide is good for them
fluffypony: even if they only use BTC address signing instead of GPG auth
mircea_popescu: Anduck so then that's perfect, people who think they know about bitcoin and bitcoin assets but have no clue about bitcoin or bitcoin assets can spend some quality time in -otc hanging out with gribble and learning the basics of bitcoin and bitcoin assets : gpg, otc, wot, all that stuff.
Anduck: well, whatever really =D
mircea_popescu: jurov: yes, beauty of free markets..everyone who tries to undercut the cartel will get beaten << check out hardass jurov!
mircea_popescu: so yesterday shall be remembered as cult gentrification day ?
assbot: Voicing kanzure for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing akstunt600 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing riX2000 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing the20year for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing TheSeven for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing Troic for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing thestringpuller for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing virtuals for 30 minutes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5947 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.5948 = 1.7844 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.5948 = 4.7584 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 34 @ 0.59735406 = 20.31 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 45 @ 0.00579999 = 0.261 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.6 = 1.8 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0058 = 0.1972 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "We have noticed that you own a domain name relative to ours. We are currently thinking about putting our domain name BlogAboutBitcoin.com for sale. Please let us know if you might be interested in buying this domain name from us."
mircea_popescu: yeah, absolutely, 15 letter domains are something i'd be buying o.o
fluffypony: I keep getting trademark requests from China
fluffypony: "This is Cari Wang from a department of registration service in China. Our registration department formally received an application on Mar. 10, 2014, One company self-styled "Kemod Holding,Ltd." are going to apply to register brand name and domain names as below "
fluffypony: and then they list a website name you registered
fluffypony: and tell you that "Kemod Holding" is going to register all these domains and do you want to stop them
Apocalyptic: mircea, here's the offers I got some days ago
fluffypony: for which they'll charge you the low, low fee of a few thousand $$$
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic i can beat that. someone finally read the robwhiz guy's proposal. you will have to look at this thing.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.60949999 = 3.657 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's just selected derpage, he sent piles more.
Apocalyptic: i got that, but what exactly is he offering in exchange
assbot: Voicing dexX7 for 30 minutes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.6 = 19.8 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: dexX7, dexX7 is already voiced.
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model
mircea_popescu: actually, here's an interesting project : someone traverse the l2 trust from assbot, make a list of who's on it.
assbot: Voicing zacm for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing cazalla for 30 minutes.
zacm: hi mircea_popescu, all
zacm: <jurov> on bitcointa.lk the locks don't apply, you can comment there
zacm: haha, so bitcointa.lk is not just a mirror, but people can respond to threads and it won't necessarily appear on the original thread? haha
dexX7: i think #bitcoin-markets has something similar but with reddit authentication
dexX7: well it's a channel for a subreddit
dexX7: no, but the most sophisticated
bounce: does assbot consider ratings, that is do negatives not count?
ozbot: #bitcoin-otc Web of Trust - Trust graph
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user assbot has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: ("face bot" would be, "[enthusiastically] sucks cock" / "is pouting" in Romanian)
fluffypony: so as long as you have L2 > 0 you're fine for self-upping
fluffypony: bounce: negatives don't count for L2, only L1
davout: ;;rate assbot 1 one ass to rule them all
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user assbot has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony l1 negatives don't turn l2 into a negative. but l2 negatives do count.
mircea_popescu: l1 negatives don't turn l2 into a negative. but l1 negatives do count.
assbot: Voicing bitesak for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: pity that kid on the forum already splurged his scientology load too. this'd have made such a great op.
pankkake: I'm sure he will be delighted to hear about the cult getting cultier
bounce: 281 names. lemme drop'em in a pastebin
pankkake: nice, I wouldn't have thought this many
bitesak: thank you, you are quite the inspiration in many areas;
bounce: now for someone to verify the list :-)
bounce: heh, oopsie. lemme do that again.
bounce: 436 even. used the wrong starting point. data iz hard!
mircea_popescu: bounce i was thinking this must be broken because when i wrote the article yest mah ppl had said "just shy of 500"
mircea_popescu: which is why i said "many times the max population of the chan"
ozbot: Why everything you think you know about DNS is entirely wrong pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu
bounce: yeah needed someone with positive and negative ratings to check filtering them, then forgot to stick assbot back in
mircea_popescu: bounce Sorry, an error has occurred. Reason: That is an invalid ID, or the post has expired.
bounce: gah. silly pastebin.ca
bitesak: mircea_popescu: yes, in the wot under bitdragon
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user bitdragon has been recorded.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 12 @ 0.14 = 1.68 BTC
pankkake: ok, that one is a bug in your script :)
bounce: anyhow, blithely assuming assbot only gives positive ratings in the script
bounce: heh, just about 20 mins of scripting
mircea_popescu: i like how this thing just keeps swallowing more and more of people's time than they had anticipated.
assbot: Can't do that, bitesak.
bounce: steal people's time on frivolities?
mircea_popescu: bounce the frivolities that steal your time are the stuff life's made of.
Apocalyptic: <mircea_popescu> bounce the frivolities that steal your time are the stuff life's made of. << well said
bounce: could make a list of who introduces whom. but, eh, let's not.
turbo_ac100: Oh right. 1 layer is enough for permanent voice o.O
bounce: for layer two, combined score * 30 mins? (yay, overcomplicating)
mircea_popescu: check that shit out. either one or the other of you is wrong.
ozbot: First bitcoin-otc rating | Khersonus Blog
bounce: you mean he says 438 and I say 436? let's see where the difference lies then
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00097 = 22.116 BTC [+]
bounce: he's missing bounce (oi!), checkdavid, danielpbarron, joecool, punkman
bounce: which brings up another question, why does diff give me 5 lines difference? o_O?
bounce: oh, he's got bitdragon whom got +1 after I posted the list
mircea_popescu: khersonus "the list increase to 495." => the list increases to 495.
mircea_popescu: saraj will be all "wtf is with all this dirty code coming to my site for a quickie today"
ozbot: Showdown: Nevada rancher, feds face off over grazing rights - CNN.com
mircea_popescu: apparently the well armed militia is about to start a war with the even better armed bureaucracy
bounce: does kick the dog still count if it's a police dog?
mircea_popescu: wonder how long before people start going "o putin is behind this!"
turbo_ac100: bounce: nubbins "le backtick" ` got counted correctly?
bounce: a bit of C code that turns json in something vaguely suitable for awkification
bounce: in this case the ouput looks like 12.rater_nick nubbins` (made up data)
bounce: er, the () isn't part of the output, of course
bounce: it'd be more efficient to output records as the first number changes, but this was faster. a small change in printing would save a loop a bit lower. that sort of thing.
bounce: s/faster/quicker to write/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6095 = 6.095 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: a, so we have a new potential AA member
kakobrekla: im talking about the blog, to be clear.
mircea_popescu: i think so. khersonus add an about page ? a name, a pic of you in a dilapidated room with half a cloth in the window ?
mircea_popescu: "Markus Persson @notch · 1h I got an invitation to this cool sounding exclusive "important people talk to each other and change the world" thing. I make games. Games." << twasn't me.
pankkake: kakobrekla: already added it :p should show at next update
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.601 BTC [-]
pankkake: if it's not updated it's worthless
mircea_popescu: bounce if a name is allowed on the basis of two (multiple) ratings, which do you put in the "by" field ?
mircea_popescu: bounce you could encapsulate this as a webservice, incidentally.
bounce: way too spendy to get bounce.com
mircea_popescu: ;;rate lampelina 1 Kako vouches for her up to over 9000 bitcoinz provided it's to buy shoes and things.
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
bounce: the way I'm doing it now is simply recording all the info and printing it. I suppose that getting the results for a single nick would be better done taking the set union of everyone assbot has rated with everyone the target has received ratings from. that's only two json queries (or a single select given access to the database)
khersonus: mircea_popescu: sorry, was afk. Heh, yeah, need to work on the blog a bit.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.04998999 = 0.4999 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: ;;later tell mircea_popescu mid-30s isn't old if you're a tree
nubbins`: i mean, the same thing without ;;later tell
nubbins`: is this a trick to get me to smoke you? ;(
pankkake: I feel I only have one year left anyway
ThickAsThieves: "<MisterE> well was nice chatting with you for a time I'm not fucking around with the +m nonsense"
ThickAsThieves: " The bill, snarkily named the "Let Me Google That For You Act," sets its sights on the NTIS for charging for technical reports that anyone can Google for free."
bounce: the bigger the node the bigger the guilt ;-)
bounce: the existence of elites, at least the part where some people are regarded as "better" than others in some sort of fancy or other, is not bad by and of itself. the problems arise (and I'd surmise egalitarians' complaints partly stem from this) when people work on shutting out other people on essentially arbitrary grounds so as to, well, keep the thing exclusive in ways quite disconnected from the original merit
bounce: in other words, elites work better when everyone has a comparable shot at getting in and the same risk of getting thrown out.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.06599978 = 0.132 BTC [+] {2}
Apocalyptic: "when everyone has a comparable shot at getting in" that's hardly true
ThickAsThieves: an elite, by definition, will always have a better position to stay one
ThickAsThieves: though that doesnt have to mean there is no way they can lose it
ThickAsThieves: but for example, ousting kakobrekla would be a tough one
dexX7: i quoted the paste
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00096739 = 11.3185 BTC [-]
assbot: Voicing mius_ for 30 minutes.
bounce: the graph thing is dexx7's, yes
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i would guess you qualify as what they call a facilitator.
nubbins`: my wot substantially grew with nano's rating
mircea_popescu: bounce no, i don't international tournament of youn mathematicians pimp. i international tournament of youn mathematicians whore.
mircea_popescu: because a little known twist of the renaissance is that most of the business started by chance meetings in brothels and prostitutes' rooms
mircea_popescu: between gents who were both affluent but otherwise'd have never met.
nubbins`: and mid-30s isn't old if you're a tree...
ozbot: Dear Polimedia, In casually researching the Cardano I came across your announ - Pastebin.com
nubbins`: tl;dr: "I am happy to provide the above services at 5% of that cost, i.e. for $25,000 - paid half up-front in BTC (about 54 BTC) and half upon project completion (about 54 BTC)."
ThickAsThieves: I just realized this new Havelock IPO is another "AM" ...
ozbot: IMG 8978 - YouTube
nubbins`: belt-loosening is optional, based on portion size ;D
ozbot: New Product Design The primary benefits that will be shown by my 20-50 p - Pastebin.com
ThickAsThieves: lemme guess, none of his plans solve any of his stated problems
nubbins`: the earlier pastebin at least attempts to enumerate them properly
ThickAsThieves: get the guy to escrow 54btc himself, and 54btc from SNSA
bounce: ok, so, I'm not an expert and so I keep on wondering whether it's me or that guy who's not understanding, but at the same time my brains fall out. wtf is he on about?
nubbins`: "Well it turns out it could be resolved extremely simply. If the Cardano had any sort of display it could simply display the hash value of what it was about to sign: the user would manually have to click through to approve that particular hash."
nubbins`: y'know, because humans can glance at a hash and tell if it's valid
bounce: he doesn't? he's worked with "$100B" companies!
nubbins`: sure, but i'm a m... ah, you get it
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.60988299 = 1.8296 BTC [+] {3}
punkman: so this lasts longer than 30 minutes?
gribble: Error: 'AMAZING' is not a valid integer.
punkman: ;;rate assbot 1 AMAZING BOT
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user assbot has been recorded.
ThickAsThieves: "Perhaps a more troubling problem for those who manage a large number of wallets through Bitcoin-Qt, the software has an upper limit to the number of private keys it can store. If you generate more keys than the upper limit, the software overwrites older keys to make space."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.0651001 = 0.4557 BTC [-]
pankkake: "Error: 'AMAZING' is not a valid integer." clearly a bug
ThickAsThieves: "In any case, Van der Laan says his job is not to direct the bitcoin project like a dictator."
dexX7: i once reported a gui issue on github and his response was "In any case feel free to make it what you think is better, I'm sick of bikeshedding about these kind of details." >_>"
Apocalyptic: ThickAsThieves, I have no knowledge of bitcoin-qt deleting older keys, let alone "to make space"...
Apocalyptic: i suspect he got confused with the keypool explanation that follows
ThickAsThieves: i know large wallets can get bogged to a crawl, but he's implying there is specificlaly programming to delete keys
ozbot: Surprise Catherine
assbot: pankkake, punkman is not voiced.
punkman: so he wants more openssl in his cardano or something?
gribble: Error: "up" is not a valid command.
assbot: Voicing robwhiz22 for 30 minutes.
bounce: ThickAsThieves: elites aren't egalitarian, you'll recall. some are more leet than others. :-) the point rather is that if you're an elite shoemaker and son of an elite shoemaker you should be able to get in on traits acquired by exposure to shoemaker, not by dint of birth. even though that birth helped you along.
bounce: s/shoemaker,/shoemaking,/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16550 @ 0.00096655 = 15.9964 BTC [-] {2}
kakobrekla: yeah btc crashing, tell your mother to invest to save it!! we wanna be rich again!
robwhiz22: I did not intend for nubbins` to publish those two pastebins. I can answer any questions on them.
punkman: kakobrekla: why can't pankkake !down me?
bounce: robwhiz22: you were warned repeatedly that this was expected and required and I'm reasonably sure you gave permission for the receiver to do whatever they liked with the information.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, as mentioned ad hominem attacks don't improve a design. I can say that usually, companies will have several iterations of completely internal design proposals that htey will consider. I've never heard of a company that wanted to ship products thta would have wanted proposals (even from consultants etc) to be public in this way.
fluffypony: What's that saying about it being better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than open your mouth and confirm everyone's suspicion? Something like that.
ThickAsThieves: robwhiz22, yknow, if you offered one "free" bit of useful advice, something of value, you'd get more than 54btc worth out of it
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, and you are the same kind of "engineer" as the ones who promise a perpetual motion machine and take investment for it from people they dupe. How does this help the conversatoin?
robwhiz22: ThickAsThieves, I offered 3 specific ways in which the Cardano fails to meet its mission.
robwhiz22: ThickAsThieves, new architectures for radically new product categories don't write themselves. It will take me six weeks just to come up with 20-50 pages at a high-level.
robwhiz22: Apocalyptic, did you read the pastebin? It was not cleaned up for a public disclosure but I can answer any questions on it.
Apocalyptic: the 'public library fake usb host' is laughable
bounce: not to be unkind but the amount of words you spent failing to convey your message don't inspire confidence that 20..50 pages will do better
ThickAsThieves: youve been full of shit since you ninjashogunned your way in here, now it's your job to fix it
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform, if you have an attacker with physical access you have already lost
assbot: Voicing skylytez for 30 minutes.
robwhiz22: bounce, the audience for that letter was Mircea who I think understands security to a certain level. I am happy to explain any of the points, but it was not a public document.
skylytez: Hi Mircea. I'm just trying to learn what I can from your blog. I'm actually looking for the 29 people
robwhiz22: Apocalyptic, yes. And the snake oil being sold here is that if you have an attacker with physical access, then if you have a Cardano you haven't lost. It's snake oil.
robwhiz22: Apocalyptic, but it's only snake oil in the current design :)
robwhiz22: The idea of the Cardano is quite simple. It is described in mircea_popescu's specs:
http://trilema.com/2013/snsa-first-product-the-cardano/ -- it says, "Consider the case of visiting a random net cafe or public library. Without Cardano you are in a relatively tough spot : even should you carry your gpg keyring and gpg software on a USB stick, and even should you be able to install gpg software on the respective computer, typing in t
robwhiz22: he keyring passphrase would in all likelihood compromise that key."
fluffypony: Guys if anyone is interested I'm selling my report on why robwhiz22's report is wrong for the low price of $20 000 in BTC up-front. If I get more than 3 buyers I'll include a copy of his report as well.
bounce: robwhiz22, two can play the argument from authority game. plenty more read it and I don't see anyone agreeing with you. ie you failed to convince.
fluffypony: But I'm sure you'll find it worth the money
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu and asciilifeform are selling hte snake oil that they will fix this. They have taken investment for it. Their solution is totally broken and unfit for this usage case.
ThickAsThieves: i'm selling another 30min of !up to robwhizz for 54btc
mircea_popescu: skylytez heya. they're in the log, two different people have made parsers
robwhiz22: (bounce, I've received agreements)
mircea_popescu: the more recent pastebin by bounce is instructive, and dex made a graph
robwhiz22: asciilifeform Because the machine is unfit to be manufactured today. Why would I "wait for it" and have this idea totally disappear, instead of being iterated on and working and being something big.
robwhiz22: (by 'this idea' I mean your device.)
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, it was my understanding that you and mircea_popescu have taken investment for it. Why would you use it to manufacture sometihng faulty that does not meet its described usage case? That is fraudulent.
fluffypony: robwhiz22: Then open source your criticisms
fluffypony: Costs to cover manufacturing != costs to cover design
robwhiz22: fluffypony I think they have sufficient investment to cover the design. It's a very low amount due to the category being totally new.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, they are not fools. So far you haven't shipped something broken, and have the time and resources to fix things.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, moreover perhaps attention to detail is what caused some of the shipping delays to begin with. This is why I wrote with a proposal to help while things can be helped.
ThickAsThieves: if i recall, the product will be demonstrated next week, no?
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, the issue you brought up about reflashing is one that I wanted to address very briefly in the shorter write-up on the Cardano A. I believe you've found microcontrollers that can't be reflashed from USB.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, it is not a main sourcecoming. I've only summarized things that render the Cardano totally unfit in its present form.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, like I said if you are convincing people to trust an insecure design that is unfit for the usage case you sell, you are a fraud. Convincing people to trust it is fraudulent.
fluffypony: asciilifeform: Well, to be fair, he's convinced me that I can sell a bullshit report for $25k. That's a learning:)
robwhiz22: fluffypony, the amount varies. I've taken into consideration the fact that Polimedia is a 'startup' and also not asking for any equity, royalty, etc. It's also trailblazing something radically new.
robwhiz22: fluffypony, the amount isn't totally fixed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly, the bozo filter is a result of trader1333, not this derp or that other one.
robwhiz22: If investors are here they may read the private proposal and step up to pay for the report and internal design proposal. 15sdNNq9Rk8JM7VENnPvPeoCwTW7ScHHZA
robwhiz22: They will only receive a copy of the proposal if mircea_popescu and asciilifeform decide to share it however. It is important not to get people's expectations up if some feature won't be included in the first iteration, for example.
fluffypony: ThickAsThieves: I don't know, I mean, would he be pushing this hard if he'd never made a sale?
robwhiz22: fluffypony, I've never made a sale in apublic forum like htis.
bounce would expect such investors to at least want to know whom they're dealing with. got any references, a CV, that sort of thing?
mircea_popescu: think of how hard virgin boys push, and compare to normal people.
robwhiz22: fluffypony, it's an EXTREMELY unusual request from mircea_popescu that business be conducted here.
mircea_popescu: they who evere made a sale have some representation of how hard to push. those who never have however...
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, if you were not interested I would have expected that reply from you to one of my two follow-up emails.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, however I believe you are not interested in selling snake oil and would be genuinely interested in creating a product that meets your basic claims about it.
robwhiz22: mircea_popescu, I could be wrong of course.
bounce: so, you're selling snake oil detection services for the low, low price of 54 bitcoin?
assbot: robwhiz22, robwhiz22 is already voiced.
fluffypony: robwhiz22: you're wrong, this is the sekrit channel for snake oil only
bounce: ;;gettrust assbot robwhiz22
pankkake: posting a bitcoin address right away is certainly grounds for a !down
mircea_popescu: guy's on my ignore, so we have a classical example of disaster of commons : i'm selling him your ears, fellow countrymen
assbot: Voicing robwhiz22 for 30 minutes.
fluffypony: I was about to extort 1 BTC out if him
bounce: another 30 minutes, another chance
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I'll wait for him to screw up again and hold him for random
fluffypony: Wow. Autocorrect can't even curse correctly.
robwhiz22: well, mircea_popescu has said in channel that he put me on ignore (a strange reaction after inviting me in here.) As I presume he and the chief engineer make joint decisions, the only way the investors in s.nsa will have the benefits of the new design, and corrections to the existing design, is if they pay for them as part of supporting their investment. ("Adding value", so they say.)
fluffypony: robwhiz22: Why not make a competing product? You can talk to Markus about an IPO:-P
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61110471 BTC [+]
robwhiz22: fluffypony, as mircea_popescu and asciilifeform have shown by slipping 4 months on their delivery schedule, it is extremely difficult to bring a security product to market. Plus, it's their idea. It really would be better for them to have the proposals for their consideration. I suppose they can also share in here if they want wider feedback.
robwhiz22: fluffypony, for both of those reasons it would not make very much sense for me to take their idea and compete with them. They're just the ones to do it. (Or so I thought.)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 17 @ 0.06510013 = 1.1067 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.04977428 = 0.1493 BTC [-] {3}
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, I guarantee you that you will see very big value in your resulting market. In additition, no longer selling snake oil- i.e. a product that actually works in the usage cases offered - is its own reward.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0497757 = 0.1493 BTC [+] {3}
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, manufacturing is actually a smaller value-add than design, because someone can always copy your finalized designs.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, I am also not selling completed designs but rather internal high-level proposals for your consideration.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.036889 = 0.1476 BTC [+]
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, this, coming from someone who isn't sure whether his chips can be reflashed over USB :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03689949 = 0.1476 BTC [+] {2}
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, if you were "sure" you wouldn't have offered a bounty. The purpose of the bounty is to motivate active, friendly attack.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, there are vectors (social/business/etc) to reflashing over USB that you should think of before considering silicon boobytraps.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, I will include an analysis of whether you can rely on your chip design which cannot be reflashed over USB, as part of the first part (the Cardano A full document).
robwhiz22: (This is a shorter document and will remain at a higher level. It is not a low-level security audit.)
robwhiz22: I don't need any details or any input from you. The process doesn't need to be iterative.
assbot: Can't do that, asciilifeform.
robwhiz22: Out of my experience, it does help to receive half up-front and then half when I state the documents are prepared and show their existence and length.
pankkake: robwhiz22: just make a better cardano and let the market decide
fluffypony: We've just gotten to friends for supper
fluffypony: Sorry robwhiz22, you'll have to buy voice from someone else
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.08299776 = 0.249 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC
assbot: Voicing robwhiz22 for 30 minutes.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user Anduck has been recorded.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, you have misunderstood me and I do not intend to receive any internal informatoin about your supply chain, designs, or anything else. I would just contribute based on what I have found publicly.
gribble: Successfully removed your rating for Anduck.
pankkake: I inserted a double bold character but it was stripped by the ircd. silly
robwhiz22: Also, ad hominem name-calling (obviously) doesn't improve designs. However, I have had bosses that swear like sailors, so I will let it slide.
assbot: ThickAsThieves, robwhizz22 is not voiced.
assbot: Can't do that, ThickAsThieves.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1609 @ 0.00020067 = 0.3229 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 891 @ 0.00021208 = 0.189 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.03689925 = 0.1476 BTC [-] {2}
robwhiz22: So, if someone is an investor in n.nsa they can commission the internal design proposals (and briefer security overview of the current Cardano). They can own the results until/unless N.NSA uses it, and if N.NSA never ships anything, then it won't be a total loss to the investor.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8097 @ 0.00096537 = 7.8166 BTC [+]
robwhiz22: So far they have slipped over 4 months on a delivery schedule, and have a non-functional product for the usage described.
mod6: stfu, and its s.nsa
assbot: Voicing cgcardona_ for 30 minutes.
cgcardona_: wondering about the 'last seen' command.
cgcardona_: wanting to see last time MGK- was around
gribble: mgk was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 10 hours, 44 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <MGK> miner would you like me to send you some bitcoin so you can be cool too?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.037 = 0.148 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC
dexX7: would it be possible to create a gpg targeted firmware for a trezor device?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5182 @ 0.00096336 = 4.9921 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 3.15514752 BTC to 7`679 shares, 41088 satoshi per share
bounce: cgcardona_: could try ;;later tell mgk <your message here>
ozbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
cgcardona_: bounce: thanks. appreciate the help on the syntax.
cgcardona_: mircea_popescu: been wondering how that all works. will check that out as well. thx
cgcardona_: btw I finally heard back from the PiperWallet dude after a month. He said he was so slammed w/ orders that he hadn't checked his email and somehow my order got lost (sigh). Refunded me the btc and shipped the device. Should be here any day.
cgcardona_: funny he finally answered the *day after* I talked shit on twitter.
cgcardona_: basically slamming piperwallet and saying I'd never send any more btc their way. The next day I get an email w/ refund and shipped wallet
benkay: modern customer service.
gribble: Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number.
benkay: well, math still works.
benkay: the little brother's new girlfriend turns out to be surprisingly difficult to discomfit.
benkay: i think she's a keeper, but we'll see over the long term.
benkay: robwhiz22: i dgaf about this 'improving the cardano' routine.
benkay: the cardano's not meant to address a large market.
assbot: Voicing robwhiz22 for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: basically kako worked his butt off for two days to add a hamster wheel to -assets
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 10 @ 0.14 = 1.4 BTC
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1668 @ 0.00095902 = 1.5996 BTC [-]
assbot: Voicing Mats_cd03 for 30 minutes.
Mats_cd03: r u mad cause i implied a racial familiarity
bounce: what's race got to do with it?
nubbins`: bounce, that's a set of great tits
assbot: Insufficient rights, kakobrekla.
Mats_cd03: or is that a cat... i can't tell...
benkay: i like the troll tib, not the scammer tib.
nubbins`: more of a see-saw than a hamster wheel
Mats_cd03: dude needs to practice on marks that dont know shit
benkay: this is probably the best practice the guy's had in his life.
Mats_cd03: you have to be fucking dumb to try to con anybody in here
benkay: i don't think he's actually trying to con anyone.
benkay: it's just troll stuff. occupying attention. getting people goated.
bounce: some people believe they hold up to high standards
Mats_cd03: spouting some garbage and business and social vectors as an attack against the cardano?
benkay: someone in the shop complained that i was being obtuse recently.
benkay: i said "think, man, think!"
benkay: "i have high standards. don't disappoint me."
benkay: "i can't possibly be explicit with all the things bound up in that."
benkay: it was some ironic comment about web vs ios software deployments.
benkay: i can't possibly unpack that shit in a fast moving conversation.
benkay: i had my power stance on too
Mats_cd03: robwhiz22: yes i know your opinion. since there are multiple vectors it would not be a loss to reveal one of many?
benkay: yeah we don't lean in around here
Mats_cd03: robwhiz22: your btc addr is saved in this log, if the cardano ends up shipping with defects i will transmit 5btc myself
benkay: the only leaning that happens is backwards as my cock gets sucked
assbot: Voicing test303030 for 30 minutes.
benkay: i have a special backwards leaning standing desk
benkay: kbd taped to the bottom
nubbins`: twist: your mouth is open because someone else is power speaking at YOU
benkay: i have a great shaggy dog
assbot: Voice for test303030 extended to 30 minutes.
benkay: wanted to be a ballerina
benkay: still want to be a ballerina
assbot: Voicing test303030 for 30 minutes.
benkay: what's the masculine version of that word?
benkay: anyways punchline is 'i still like throwing girls around - consensually' with a slow stare around the room
assbot: Voice for test303030 extended to 30 minutes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: anyway, out to enjoy teh weekend. with like, people. and humans.
assbot: Voicing test303030 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing test303030 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voice for test303030 extended to 30 minutes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.08299776 = 0.166 BTC [-]
assbot: Voice for test303030 extended to 30 minutes.
assbot: Insufficient rights, test323232.
assbot: Voicing test323232 for 30 minutes.
Mats_cd03: robwhiz22: on the off chance that you are not a con man, merely an idiot, consider spending more time reading the details re: the cardano that asciilifeform has provided
assbot: Voice for test303030 extended to 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing test323232 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing test323232 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing test303030 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing test123123 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing testjuhu for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing testjuhu2 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing testjuhu2 for 30 minutes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.03689999 = 0.1107 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.04810053 = 0.1443 BTC [-]
assbot: Voicing test323232 for 30 minutes.
Mats_cd03: robwhiz22: in fact ill match the 10btc previously offered. when the device ships, if you can hack the device or firmware, you will have 20 of the ~50btc you are asking for
assbot: Voicing test1231 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing test323232 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing test1231 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing test1231 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voice for test1231 extended to 30 minutes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.06521 = 0.3261 BTC [+]
assbot: Voicing test323232 for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voice for test323232 extended to 30 minutes.
assbot: Voicing test323232 for 30 minutes.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05018995 = 0.1506 BTC [+]
fluffypony: Precisely the reason that ;;getrating still led to scammers succeeding
fluffypony: And why ;;gettrust has superseded it as default (despite being used by all who understood the wot previously)
fluffypony: Speaking of - bitcointalk's trust system is fundamentally broken - it's not a web if you only see one part of it. Are there any tools to express bitcointalk trust as a relationship model as with the wot?
pankkake: bitcointalk's trust is mostly useless because of defaulttrust, and the multiple entries allowed might not be a good idea either
pankkake: oh also it separated the "trust list" from the trust relationships…
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.61499995 = 1.23 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.62508857 = 4.3756 BTC [+] {3}
fluffypony: You see an isolated silo if you're viewing someone's trust
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00580011 = 0.2494 BTC [+] {3}
fluffypony: Indeed of seeing a product of relationships
pankkake: right. and no matter what, I kinda end up having DefaultTrust somewhere
pankkake: I suppose you could write a tool to interpret the relationships in another way… since those are public
fluffypony: Because wot doesn't care whether you're someone who just joined or you've been around for 10 years (Karpeles-Bitcoin timeline)
fluffypony: But considering the pile Thermosflask is sitting on...he could literally pay for it to be re-engineered from scratch and built properly
gribble: You rated user theymos on Tue Apr 1 22:52:27 2014, with a rating of -2, and supplied these additional notes: Runs a forum catering to scammers, donations not used to do what he promised to.
pankkake: anyway there are things that are very easy to fix (colored ignores) that he doesn't fix, so he's voluntarily not caring
benkay: fluffypony: totally understandable, given his position.
benkay: he runs the house of iniquity. why would he bring any light to the situation?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.0058487 = 0.1228 BTC [+] {3}
ozbot: 'Cherry tree from space' mystery baffles Japan - Yahoo News
ThickAsThieves: <+fluffypony> But considering the pile Thermosflask is sitting on...he could literally pay for it to be re-engineered from scratch and built properly /// yknow i kinda doubt he's still sitting on most of it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5464 @ 0.00096695 = 5.2834 BTC [+]
benkay: ;;rate mod6 1 monk of the pearl
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user mod6 has been recorded.
benkay: ;;rate Duffer1 BETTER DROWNED THAN DUFFERS IF NOT DUFFERS WON'T DROWN
gribble: Error: 'BETTER' is not a valid integer.
benkay: ;;rate Duffer1 1 BETTER DROWNED THAN DUFFERS IF NOT DUFFERS WON'T DROWN
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Duffer1 has been recorded.
benkay: ;;rate davout 1 did not 0day me
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user davout has been recorded.
benkay: ;;rate kakobrekla 2 much asset
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user kakobrekla has changed from 1 to 2.
benkay: ever read those books, Duffer1 ?
benkay: ;;rate asciilifeform 1 savvy with computation
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user asciilifeform has been recorded.
benkay: c'mon, lampelina you're making us all look bad here
bounce: curious how I can ask for ANY or NEG ratings, but not for POS ratings only
Duffer1: my nick's from .. i want to say shannara series of fantasy books, one of the characters was called an old duffer
benkay: you can ask for ratings?
dexX7: well ;;gettrust is like asking for ratings?
benkay: bounce is being unclear as to whether asking to be rated or asking gribble for the ratings of people.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 576 @ 0.08299776 = 47.8067 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1110 @ 0.00096663 = 1.073 BTC [-]
bounce: asking b-otc.com for the list of someone's {received,sent} ratings. has a parameter that lets you only show negative ratings or all ratings, but not just the positive ratings
benkay: i just sort by rating when i'm curious
bounce: actually using the json version of same, yes. and yes, it's fairly trivial to do the filtering. just noticed that it does give you ways to filter, only the available criteria are exactly not what I need
benkay: just give me all the data yo
benkay: i'll filter it how i want it kthxbai
benkay: thestringpuller: much lulz
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05049999 = 0.101 BTC [+] {2}
bounce: ;;gettrust assbot magicaltux
bounce: one positive, so he'd still get to !up himself.
kakobrekla: ;;rate lampelina 3 she will not run with the money
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user lampelina has been recorded.
benkay: ;;rate lampelina 1 has not yet run with the money
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user lampelina has been recorded.
benkay: with gpg toolchain req'd for voice, wot should spread nicely.
benkay: ;;getrating magicaltux
benkay: bounce gotta have positive ratings to self-up
benkay: kakobrekla: confirm ^^ plz?
benkay: magicaltux cannot in that case self-voice. lvl 1 = 0, lvl 2 = -2.
bounce: your powers of deduction elude you
benkay: ;;gettrust assbot magicaltux
bounce: now bring up that graph
bounce: yeah. but only the positives count.
benkay: i'm pretty sure that's what kakobrekla means when he says > 0
bounce: in that case I need to re-do the calculation in the script. oh well.
bounce: dunno where the misunderstanding crept in earlier then. let's fix it.
benkay: "programming is the art of telling people what you want the computer to do."
kakobrekla: i think im done with the new code more or less
kakobrekla: gonna switch in a minute, and lets see if it explodes
bounce: people waffle a lot. curiously, khersonus came up with a mostly identical list, making the same error
kakobrekla: it should not give you the right to !down until you re-!up
☟︎ kakobrekla: just the way it works bounce , its a one time thing
gribble: #20308 Sat Apr 12 15:09:56 2014 punkman SELL 1.0 code @ 0.1 btc (Will code (py,php,js,css,other) for BTC.)
bounce: hypothetically speaking, if assbot rates b with -1, do any ratings of b to c count positively for c?
bounce: as in, how you implemented it.
kakobrekla: that is really depends on wot implementation which i didnt do
gribble: You have not yet rated user magicaltux
bounce: assbot does a ;;gettrust to gribble, or what does it do?
gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is identified as user 'thestringpuller', with GPG key id 0FF2943DA179E169, key fingerprint 6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169, and bitcoin address None
bounce: then I get 429 names. time for a new list.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0659994 = 0.264 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05049999 = 0.2525 BTC [+]
bounce: I count 429, and it was, er, 437 before
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05049999 = 0.2525 BTC [+]
bounce: magicaltux, fbastage, gigavpx, gmaxwell, komododragon, lucidlepidoptera, mtgox, ne0futur, and topace went out, bitdragon and lampelina got added (due to getting +1 later)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05049999 = 0.2525 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27433 @ 0.00096416 = 26.4498 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: there ya go benkay , you made the front of bitcoin-assets.com
benkay: micro utility delivered
kakobrekla: ha, was about to edit the wiki and i see pankkake beat me to it. gj!
mircea_popescu: fluffypony the btctalk wot is broken discussion was carried when thermos first made it. the conclusion pretty much went like "well it's not really all that broken, in that you can remove him from your trust line. a default population is useful cause derps otherwise wouldn';t even understand wtf it is"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22011 @ 0.00096249 = 21.1854 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: <bounce> one positive, so he'd still get to !up himself. << i don't think so. the total is negative.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate lampelina 1 Kako vouches for her up to over 9000 bitcoinz provided it's to buy shoes and things.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user lampelina has been recorded.
assbot: Insufficient rights, mircea_popescu.
assbot: Insufficient rights, benkay.
assbot: Insufficient rights, benkay.
assbot: Insufficient rights, benkay.
benkay: well this is not quite asspected.
benkay: not to be confused with asdic
jurov: kako revoked wrryone
mircea_popescu: khersonus to scoop is journo lingo, it denotes the act of someone beating you to the punch. dun how illiterate louts speak, like in "I dun name dis hill D’Andre Mountain!"
assbot: Insufficient rights, mircea_popescu.
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
khersonus: mircea_popescu: I know, I just found it amusing that you phrased it like that (I'd expect it more from a US southerner)
khersonus: btw, do you use a wordpress plugin for footnotes or something you wrote?
kakobrekla: just !up yourself on pm and all will be ok
ozbot: Pluginuri wordpress utile pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
kakobrekla: btw mircea_popescu your shoes comment made lampelina pissy.
khersonus: mircea_popescu: I saw that, but it hadn't been updated for quite some time, but if it works for you it'll work for me
kakobrekla: "if he would mention pursues i would slap him when i see him."
assbot: Voicing keonne for 30 minutes.
lampelina: might work for you too mircea_popescu :)
khersonus: lampelina: yeah, but that requires more work... I saw that page too though
lampelina: I'm not violent, just trying to help
gribble: Nick 'asciilifeform', with hostmask 'asciilifeform!~asciilife@pool-71-191-246-235.washdc.fios.verizon.net', is identified as user 'asciilifeform', with GPG key id B98228A001ABFFC7, key fingerprint 17215D118B7239507FAFED98B98228A001ABFFC7, and bitcoin address None
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 3 for user kakobrekla has been recorded.
kakobrekla: thank you, the reward should really go to all spammiciders
bounce: re list of !up-able nicks, turns out we both got the math wrong. hence new and slightly shorter list and a little more work adding the numbers.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 319 @ 0.00068999 = 0.2201 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: bounce graphs. it's like... the one thing you'll for sure get someone with.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 314 @ 0.00068999 = 0.2167 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1095 @ 0.00069255 = 0.7583 BTC [+] {3}
bounce: no gd here. where did I have gd again?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 485 @ 0.00069999 = 0.3395 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: Insufficient rights, nubbins`.
assbot: Voicing robwhiz22 for 30 minutes.
kakobrekla: its a one time thing since i change the sys
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 332 @ 0.00073499 = 0.244 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00073499 = 0.147 BTC [+]
joecool: nubbins`: what mobile provider you using in nfld atm?
nubbins`: robwhiz22: serendipitously, trilema just published an article that touches on the topics we discussed earlier regarding why i won't rate you
ozbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.000735 = 0.147 BTC [+]
joecool: nubbins`: ah ok, trying to see who has it pretty well covered out there, my carrier (wind) is regional, i usually used rogers prepaid for traveling to montreal and middle of nowhere places
nubbins`: rogers has terrible coverage here
nubbins`: bell and telus share an LTE network, island-wide coverage
nubbins`: rogers works in the cities and along the TCH, and pretty much nowhere else
joecool: the plans just suck for any of the big 3 :(
nubbins`: i renegotiated the last time my contract was up, my plan isn't terrible
joecool: i use ~30gb/mo in the US on t-mo and at&t, and close to 10gb on wind up here
nubbins`: i might get close to 1gb a few months a year
nubbins`: asciilifeform: just so he can up himself tho, natch ;)
joecool: nubbins`: tbh i'm fine with HSPA coverage so long as i can actually use it, 1gb is pretty easy to go through in a day (well a couple hours)
joecool: my at&t plan is ~$35/mo per line for unlimited hspa
joecool: asciilifeform: you are wrong
joecool: i have unlimited on at&t and t-mobile, though my at&t plan might be slightly dishonest by some measure
joecool: namely i buy a phone sold outside the US market and provision it as a featurephone
jurov: lol what do you do with the phone? i rarely overstep 500M soft monthly limit
Anduck: in finland almost all 3g/4g are unlimited
joecool: asciilifeform: i have used as much as 60gb in a month on at&t without coming subject to a throttle
joecool: jurov: tethering and music streaming (mostly the latter)
joecool: t-mobile offers unlimited for $70 (might be $80 now) plus a bunch of other perks (unlimited text and 2G roaming international is nice)
joecool: but the coverage sucks compared to at&t
joecool: in canada i have a regional carrier called wind for $30/mo they have fake unlimited that throttles after 10gb
joecool: all of the above have no contracts
joecool: well, no term i should say
joecool: asciilifeform: with at&t i get ~6mbit/s majority of the time, drops into the 1-2mbit/s range if signal is crappy or its around rush hour
joecool: t-mobile is a wide range of speeds going up into the 30mbit/s or so range when i hit LTE
joecool: i haven't gotten into any zones that are using 15mhz or 20mhz LTE yet, just 10mhz
joecool: wind is a hspa+ network i see ~10mbit/s in practice
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 192 @ 0.00587132 = 1.1273 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 122 @ 0.60069569 = 73.2849 BTC [-] {6}
robwhiz22: Hi, this channel flashed. I think it's ridiculous to voice me only if I am spoken to.
kakobrekla: nubbins` suggested a solution to this.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03499999 = 0.175 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05018656 = 0.2509 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: its like health. you take it for granted until you lose it.
ozbot: Recovering Bitcoin private keys using weak signatures from the blockchain / Nils Schneider
ozbot: xkcd: Random Number
kakobrekla: gotta save resources on mobile devices.
benkay: it was picked randomly!
nubbins`: kakobrekla i suggested a solution to something?!
ozbot: BitBet - Bitcointalk.org treasurer to be scammer tagged
jurov: and then they discontinued scammer tags
jurov: interesting coincidence :)
kakobrekla: is there any word any of these people still have ze money
nubbins`: john k disappeared a few times
jurov: that's another john?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 68 @ 0.58053655 = 39.4765 BTC [-] {10}
jurov: i guess john as john, all are the saem :DDD
nubbins`: well, i mean, it can be. but john k had 1k btc of the forum's money
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: John
assbot: Insufficient rights, asciilifeform.
assbot: Insufficient rights, asciilifeform.
assbot: Voicing robwhiz22 for 30 minutes.
nubbins`: cheap sneakers rolex oakley nike rayban vacations pm me for details
nubbins`: 0.99btc/min standard long distance rates apply
jurov: Amazing! V I A G R A as Low as BTC 0.033 .
nubbins`: turn your peanut into a banana!
benkay: turn your spam into sirloin!
nubbins`: fun fact, spam is a healthy mixture of ham and pork shoulder
nubbins`: just with salt instead of health
robwhiz22: spam is a "healthy" mixture of "ham" and "pork"..."shoulder"
artifexd: asciilifeform: Sprint still sells unlimited (not "unlimited") data and their network continues to get better. It might be worthwhile to recheck Sprint's coverage of your area.
nubbins`: i've got about 20 pounds of pork shoulder in my freezer. perfect fat/muscle ratio for making sausages.
assbot: Insufficient rights, robwhiz22.
nubbins`: you can't !down the aristocracy!
benkay: down with the aristocracy!
nubbins`: i ordered a new sausage stuffing horn and it arrived yesterday
nubbins`: thirty fuckin dollars for 20 cents of plastic
artifexd: I use them for my day to day cell phone. Some people have issues. They have been good to me in my area. Of course, so has Comcast.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06521005 = 0.6521 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: $24 alone was "express" shipping, only option available
bounce: 3d printers with food-grade plastics available?
assbot: Voicing TestingUnoDosTre for 30 minutes.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, I asked you - Have you also seen my emails to Polimedia?
benkay: yeah good work mr back tick
assbot: Voicing robwhiz22 for 30 minutes.
robwhiz22: Yes, I would have expected you to see them when I came in here to follow up (as that was the only reply I received from Mr. Popescu).
robwhiz22: But at any rate if this is the forum where any serious business negotiation goes on, so be it.
jurov: robwhiz22: you failed to mention MITM via evil brain implants or such interference
jurov: it also makes cardano unusable
jurov: oh and what about telekinesis?
robwhiz22: Well, to be fair, I didn't expect it to be posted publicly so I did not clean it up for public disclosure. Since then I've also had to explain the mitigation on point 2.
TestingUnoDosTre: Has anyone here even been notified of a suspicious attempt to login to a google account?
robwhiz22: It was supposed to just be a summaary so, you know, I'm not just claiming to have something.
robwhiz22: TestingUnoDosTre, yes, definitely.
TestingUnoDosTre: I just received my first one, and I had no two-factor login. Very worried that my data was compromised
benkay: any data you have on google anything was compromised long ago, TestingUnoDosTre
robwhiz22: Why don't you check which IP's have accessed it? Google tracks and shows you.
ozbot: Last account activity - Gmail Help
assbot: I don't do bots, joecool.
TestingUnoDosTre: "Sign-in events unavailable prior to this date. Other activity below."
joecool: hm apparently i have a login from germany on one of my google accts
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, why is tor sinning?
joecool: TestingUnoDosTre: to the ip it was signed in from?
[\]: anyone not using 2factor when available is stupid.
joecool: i wonder if it's just picking up a t-mobile ip as germany
[\]: TestingUnoDosTre, even if you don't use the app and just get the text message
[\]: joecool, its possible
joecool: nope, it's choopa, that's my VPN
[\]: probably one of their asshole proxies
kakobrekla: 30 mins goes by much faster than i thought originally.
[\]: 30 minutes goes by in about 30 minutes
assbot: Voicing TestingUnoDosTre for 30 minutes.
bounce: o_O? this is IRC, man.
[\]: kakobrekla, what if it was an idle timeout?
mike_c: kakobrekla: i am +1 for extending that time, because they can always be downed if necessary.
[\]: mike_c: why you gotta be a downer?
mike_c: born that way i suppose
assbot: Insufficient rights, benkay.
assbot: Insufficient rights, [\\\].
bounce points out that encourages yapping more than SingTFU and chipping in only when something to say
[\]: asciilifeform: I am upped
assbot: Voicing [\\\] for 30 minutes.
assbot: Voice for robwhiz22 extended to 30 minutes.
[\]: uping me in channel has always worked
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.0009601 = 7.3928 BTC [-]
robwhiz22: It's probably because \ is an escape in whatever scripting language this bot is hacked together in :) :)
benkay: assbot kicks on downs now?
kakobrekla: oh yeah i see what u did there. fuck you and your bots.
[\]: nanotube, disable gribble echo in here please
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, I have not given you any recommendations that are low-level enough to match that description.
joecool: wat you can down other people?
kakobrekla: also add optional argument for time in minutes
assbot: Insufficient rights, joecool.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, moreover I always state my reasoning and am not associated with a group - the NSA M.O. is to just silently give directions on what to do.
assbot: I don't do bots, [\\\].
mike_c: <+kakobrekla> also add optional argument for time in minutes << perfect.
assbot: I don't do bots, [\\\].
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, nobody cares about your pastebin
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, your pastebin was removed?
benkay: au contraire, robwhiz22. that pastebin's damning.
ozbot: Amazon offers employees $5,000 to quit - Apr. 11, 2014
robwhiz22: You never change "Paste expiration" from the default, Never?
robwhiz22: (I often change it to a day or an hour or whatever)
benkay: this is a distraction from the damning pastebin itself.
assbot: Voicing moiety for 30 minutes.
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, fine. But I think if you're saying a link was zapped it would make sense to mention it.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user assbot has been recorded.
bounce: now for the !up self tekneeq
benkay: moiety if you're idented, you can /query assbot and !up in there
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, for what it's worth I am not associated with any agency - my analysis, and follow-on proposal, is my own. Moreover some parts are high-level and you will have to repeat some of the work you've done if you so choose.
moiety: i'm just catching up, all working fine?
TestingUnoDosTre: if you were a really good amazon employee, wouldn't you just quit for like 2 weeks and then come back?
benkay: no asciilifeform insists on !upping ninjashogun
robwhiz22: asciilifeform, I can tell you that for others who have purchased services like this from me they have been extremely pleased with the results. But I can't do weeks of work on spec. (without payment.)
moiety: thanks for assbotting me kakobrekla :P
moiety: hi mircea_popescu :) how are you?
moiety: thanks benkay, i has me pm to assbot oot already XD
mircea_popescu: <benkay> down with the aristocracy! << don't haet, emulaet
mike_c: downed before he got to explain his "HCI interaction paradigm". that sounded very meta to me. interacting with human-computer interaction.
benkay: what am i doing if not emulating, eh?
benkay: mike_c: i swear to god
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i swear to god if you up that nimrod one more time ima shoot him on general principle
moiety: glad to hear it mircea_popescu i've been away a wee bit
mike_c: hah. one of the best lines in the movie.
benkay: i hold there's no truth to be had, asciilifeform.
mircea_popescu: <[\\\]> kakobrekla, what if it was an idle timeout? << bad fuckin idea srsly. let people get in the wot
mike_c: occum says he is just your run of the mill beggar.
moiety: cheers kakobrekla :D ... gribble has kittenlasers, can assbot have manul lasers someday?
mircea_popescu: and mike_c : downin' ain't the same thing as just ignoring it.
benkay: mircea_popescu: commons trasher.
mircea_popescu: i hope you won't be spelling my name as mirceau once i'm dead or some shit.
mircea_popescu: worst thing in the fucking world, derps make you a statue, misspell your name on it
mike_c: occum is occam's little known cousin.
benkay: /ignore, asciilifeform
moiety: "You, are the dude in the chair; I am, merely here"
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> also add optional argument for time in minutes << no, srsly. bad idea.
mike_c: why? with a reasonable cap?
mircea_popescu: mike_c because the requisite for working power is limited power.
benkay: it's limited by others in the channel.
mircea_popescu: that's a different story. derps thought the us can work like that, too.
mircea_popescu: mike_c is he a younger cousin that's known or just a cousin that's not so well known ?
mike_c: sorry, to be clear, occum is occam's famous midget cousin.
ozbot: Spudgun job interview - YouTube
ozbot: Spudgun job interview - YouTube
bounce: thanks. probably still should sit down and see that thing
mircea_popescu: "Very difficult. That's very difficult, do you understand? It's difficult because you're selling to a particular group. Fat cats. Big shots. Guys who can afford $200k. And guys who can use a whole fucking suitcase full of cocaine. Basically, Clarence, guys I don't know. And guys you don't know. And more importantly, they don't know you."
mircea_popescu: true romance (tarantino cut) goes on teh videography of -assets
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kakobrekla: mp sez no so complaint goes to his pm. ty.
moiety: true romance is one of my favourite films. everyone in it is immense
bounce: I know about trainspotting. just haven't actually seen all of it.
moiety: trainspotting is not a favourite of mine, ican't deny its done well though. I much prefer Shallow Grave
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moiety: oh btw coachella is being streamed live over 3 chennels, mashable has the schedule and links if anyone wants it