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mp_en_viaje: invented whatever, iirc i just recognized the importance of shit other people came up with. but more's the point : you sit there "ready for sex" but you don't know where your zipper is or how it opens ? "any way!!!" ? wtf how are we to satisfyingly copulate here ?
jfw: mp_en_viaje: a few other questions come up as I prepare to genesis. 1: tabs vs spaces - my Scheme code is all spaces and I don't know how to reasonably do it otherwise; lisp has established indenting conventions that tend to line things up nicely but require 1-column granularity. Somehow, setting the tabstop to 1 doesn't seem like any kind of solution (and still not sure I even grasp the problem).
mp_en_viaje: the other's illustrated in glengarry glenn ross, "I want to show you something. It might mean nothing to you...and it might not. I don't know. I don't know anymore. What is that? Florida. Glengarry Highlands. Florida. "Florida. Bullshit." And maybe that's true; and that's what I said: but look here: what is this? This is a piece of land. Listen to what I'm going to tell you now:"
mp_en_viaje: the costa ricans wanted to know whether i visited china, iran or korea in the interval. i wanted to know how they arrived at the list. they wanted to know if i don't watch the news or what's my problem.
hanbot_abroad: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-23#1958451 << i don't know of many US-driven notions as major in their time or as utterly forgotten by now as this chautauqua thing --at least nominally; ultralame "community"-ing still pushed as a thing by descendants of the same lamers, but the name's entirely absent.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I don't know that absolute or relative bigness is a necessity for exhausting Italians.
BingoBoingo: I don't know that they even impress each other. Too solipsistic, they seem to just be trying to win tourmament markets that don't even have prizes.
jfw: Not that I seriously think they *should* use those for all numbers, I can't see that being anything short of hideous given that it's C, manual memory management and all, "what do you mean you don't know how big the struct will be"
BingoBoingo: mod6: I don't know that it's a big deal. I strongly suspect you are buying it at the reserve price.
mircea_popescu: this has nothing to do with "how well you write". i'm aware this is the typical gambit of the being an engineer, he's gonna -- don't you know -- be SO GOD DAMEND GOOD at being funny/caring/whatever the girl he ain't said hi to yet is gonna... nfi, rematerialize our of his dirty sheets and start doing the laundry one day.
dorion: mircea_popescu re seriousness, I know it'd be a helluva lot, but I don't imagine porting his work from 4.9.95 to 2.x isn't trivial either. I should've asked, comment how ?
ossabot: Logged on 2020-01-05 07:20:03 hanbot: i don't think it's just as good in-universe; it's better. keeping it real, you know, not like those jaded monied assholes who aren't Feeding the World with their inexplicable windfalls like they would. besides, their bower's stacked with comfortable consumer plastics, the best mudpies that could be --mudpies necessary, in fact, for existence. the town folk can't even tap screens to digest dinner, they sit around and TA
hanbot: i don't think it's just as good in-universe; it's better. keeping it real, you know, not like those jaded monied assholes who aren't Feeding the World with their inexplicable windfalls like they would. besides, their bower's stacked with comfortable consumer plastics, the best mudpies that could be --mudpies necessary, in fact, for existence. the town folk can't even tap screens to digest dinner, they sit around and TALK, like, to real faces, who
diana_coman: hm; I keep thinking that "perhaps I don't know enough about them to find the value" ; as I see them now, they are more accumulations of trial and error/overfitting/tinkering though so they seem of very little - or indeed negative - value tbh.
mircea_popescu: so i don't even know on what basis i'm supposed to decide what, here.
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-02-21 21:53:17: <mircea_popescu> now, eulora DID move away from broken ints to sane ints during migration to 0.1.2, and i don't know anyone cared enohgh to extensively debug the insanity that is microsoft. so you might have found something. what exactly were those new errors ?
mp_en_viaje: dorion_road, aw fuck, the other two aren't even in english huh. this fucking blows, and it's where the sadness starts, i don't know how to fix this.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-18 18:50:33 jfw: trinque: one approach is if money flows and wants patching support, to sell subscriptions covering some defined set of things. Do such clients exist? I don't know but seems like these tend to be large corps already in submission to USG and can just as well buy RedHat
jfw: trinque: one approach is if money flows and wants patching support, to sell subscriptions covering some defined set of things. Do such clients exist? I don't know but seems like these tend to be large corps already in submission to USG and can just as well buy RedHat
mp_en_viaje: i get it, thing comes with supposed full sources that supposedly build ; i don't know that anyone worth any confidence even tried to in the past however many years. it's still building the wrong way, what the fuck os-awareness of power button. whole fucking point of even having a power butto nin the first place is to have an ALTERNATIVE control mechanism to the operating system.
mp_en_viaje: nobody even fucking knows how an os is made in the first place for the simple self-obvious reason nobody fucking made one yet. it's not farming. it's not anything like farming. i don't even know what the fuck it's like, maybe we live to figure it out, but so far we just have some good classes of what it can't be like is all.
mp_en_viaje: because totally, i'll be so very fucking impressed, don't you know it.
dorion_road: the second is the python script baggae with USE flag system that makes gentoo gentoo for better and worse. I think the package management is the biggest value in gentoo, but I don't yet know the cost/benefit of tameing it with V.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I don't know re that as such; ie I don't mind it either way, whether \t or space, I don't see it as a huge problem.
mircea_popescu: from what i've seen, most people decide they don't really like computers once they get to know them at all.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-02#1954082 - no changes really; on looking at it, that error was thrown on too-short/missing email/name so possibly that's what happened? At any rate, since I don't care about email really, I took the check on email out so please try again and let me know if it's still missbehaving (my testing comments all went through fine, from different machines & IPs).
mircea_popescu: i don't really know anyone who both a) is technically literate and b) thinks post 2015 intel chips are actually worth money, as it happens. a situation eerily reminiscent of every other socialism's progress, late sovok folk similarily didn't think late sovok artefacts worth deploying.
dorion_road: mircea_popescu grub may be required if EFI systems are supported. I don't know if lilo is worth saving or if grub for everything is the better choice.
dorion_road: I don't yet know exactly how they're to be beat, that's for the owner to investigate, report back on the cost/benefits of various decisions and publish his vpatches.
dorion_road: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-26#1953664 << I don't know that datacenter in particular. I can ask around though, Panama is small. I'd offer to pay a visit to their office if I was in town.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I don't know if I've been this strictly encouraging to read since the War of Life debut.
hanbot: i don't know what's wrong with conceiving an os from the known universe at the time of its conception. you have a manifest of ideals and ideas in there, as you necessarily do in your head, and when it changes you're stuck patching. the os should be for a cause, then, but i don't know why the cause(s) can't be explicitly stated, and structured, so you have a tree of reason and not just results. there's no such thing as general purpose, but there i
mircea_popescu: trinque, looky here, i have a job that needs done and a bunch of people who are interested in helpinh with it. for the past month i've been considering you to run the doing, however as i sit here i still don't know if you are or are not going to. you've not yet put out a plan for it, you've not said if you will, you've not set a date for it, you're just making occasional, impredictable and ~useless drive-bys
ave1: Good point, I don't know yet. I was think to remove these before the genesis as the whole thing ways in at 300mb or so. Plus, java and go don't even work as is.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: my intended comment would be this: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=37t_ ; I don't know if it got truncated or what happened (it complains of duplicate if I try it again).
BingoBoingo: I don't know about more organized. Just seems more centralized if the post office handles dispatch instead of the "dispachante" cartel.
dorion: mircea_popescu point taken, thank you. jfw reviewing the contract, Gales Linux is described as your original software, but I don't know the legal standing of that claim.
jfw: I see. They don't know enough about the code to meaningfully own it, and afaik they know this.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Already running as S#1074 on Auctionbot with the other servers. I don't know why this gorgeous thing hasn't gotten any bids yet http://bingology.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/trinquebeast.jpg Copper Heatsinks!
spyked: hm. also, it's possible it might have missed some when I purged the notification queue following the spam this weekend. lemme know if they still don't get delivered when you go online using mircea_popescu
diana_coman: I don't actually know mats' age.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: I don't know; why do you trust php?
BingoBoingo had a productive day. So far. Sat down with the fellow who recommended yesterday's audition. Told him that I was letting him know as a courtesy that after the meeting I developed the strong suspicion that the recommended fellow was the other party's counsel. That I don't know how good his relationship with the fellow is, but that I do not mind, and it may even help me if he warns the fellow that in the case I have been
mp_en_viaje: trinque, so for all the discussion of the past few days, i still don't have basic answers here. can i send hour-ish small payments via deedbot now ? if not know, do i know starting when ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1947020 << you know, i just went hands in pockets. you really don't need the papering of police at this stage in any strict sense. i suppose it saves on handwriting.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 10:33:28 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946752 << scared of a little fun in the dark or what. but no, I don't know why you're coming to the defense of the larpers here. if you count me among them, that's exactly what you should say.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-19 10:33:28 trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946752 << scared of a little fun in the dark or what. but no, I don't know why you're coming to the defense of the larpers here. if you count me among them, that's exactly what you should say.
trinque: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-19#1946752 << scared of a little fun in the dark or what. but no, I don't know why you're coming to the defense of the larpers here. if you count me among them, that's exactly what you should say.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 18:01:55 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946571 - mainly because it was mp_en_viaje & you conversation; and you keep yourself quite private otherwise so I don't really know how much/where from you want any feedback.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-18#1946571 - mainly because it was mp_en_viaje & you conversation; and you keep yourself quite private otherwise so I don't really know how much/where from you want any feedback.
mp_en_viaje: and the lord answered "i don't know, my good man. for, you see... it is raining. SULPHURIC ACID."
nicoleci: mp_en_viaje, well i don't atm know what to do. basically there's 6.6mb i'm trying to send you. i tried split -n5 and deedbot's paste still spits (1.3mb chunks, so the limit is only 1mb ???)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I don't know about moving blogs right away, but I am interested in a something to spread out the DNS record serving
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-16#1945906 << i don't specifically know ; there's precedent saying old owners actually own the numbers in question which so far has been upheld
diana_coman: so while I have backups of both production and test systems and code and all that, I don't really know what to aim for here exactly
mp_en_viaje: i tell you i don't fucking know.
spyked: I'm at least curious to determine what trackbacks it hasn't sent. or whether xmlrpc.php responded with some error message. as it is, I don't know what's happening there
mp_en_viaje: i mean, you know, it's one thing to say "dude, you're wasting your mouth with that swill, try some beer". but if they don't like it, why can't they just carry on with whatever, what diff could it possibly make.
billymg: lobbes: i don't know if this is any defense but i find when try to talk to people here i'm met with http://63.80.184.72/blog/influence.html
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-09 22:59:18 trinque: I don't know if the soviets invented some kind of circumcision that removes the "and then you persuade people to give you their money for the thing you have"
trinque: I don't know if the soviets invented some kind of circumcision that removes the "and then you persuade people to give you their money for the thing you have"
diana_coman: asciilifeform: you know, there were at least *some* in the whole list saying kvm; and I'm pretty sure I don't have a full list anyway.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: atm I don't have box ready for this (I wasn't actually prepared for pizarro death, what can I say) + I'd rather know a bit more about those to whom I'm sending boxes, dunno.
BingoBoingo: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-07#1941537 << I don't know about lifetime, but some sort of produtive, structured penance is in order. I do feel much less despondent after making two adult age males go pale.
mp_en_viaje: the former, i read something about maxint, something about flamethrower, then something about ~stalking some randos that don't even know you...
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo_, i tell you i don't comprehend this defective approach, as seen in "I don't know if I can continue to make camp in Uruguay on Qntra alone or in combination with the local economy of faltas. Maybe I breed rabbits" and elsewhere.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i don't know why you keep saying that. sales is neither an optional nor a coinditional part of business.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i know you don't liek to read castles, but this thread b/w asciilifeform and diana_coman's heathen isp man is pertinent.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It would mean Antel provides the RJ45 for each box, each RJ45 billed seperately. This would increase the complexity of administration and billing, but I don't know materially different it could be from the current situation in practice.
BingoBoingo: If another lord wants to step up and try Vienna, Portugal, Minks, etc... I don't know that "Señor (Herr?) Rogier hopped on a plane to a strange land before" should necessarily block someone else from the opportunity.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-04 08:03:01 mp_en_viaje: so if you don't know, ask ; i'll either give you the thing or else tell you why not, at which point ~you'll fucking know why not~. see ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-04 05:03:23 mp_en_viaje: so if you don't know, ask ; i'll either give you the thing or else tell you why not, at which point ~you'll fucking know why not~. see ?
mp_en_viaje: so if you don't know, ask ; i'll either give you the thing or else tell you why not, at which point ~you'll fucking know why not~. see ?
mp_en_viaje: 2nd item i don't even know what to make of. seems someone literally poured some concrete, made a sort of post-wood outhouse. i dunno how it is even a house at all.
diana_coman: for the other, I don't know that they learn just because they heard it enough times; it might be that they need to hear it several times, yes, but they would just the same if they simply encountered it that many times
diana_coman: well, I don't know really; for one thing the "impression they make" is really a matter of the viewer and his impression so sure, it's consistent with one lens so why not, certainly.
diana_coman: in the process I updated the awk importer too but I don't even know if it's any use given that I'm not 100% sure what is "irssi standard format" really
diana_coman: asciilifeform: is there a link to "first day of log" for a chan? I don't know if I just can't see it or there just isn't one.
trinque: I don't know if it would surprise anyone here, but they do a better job!
trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-14#1935983 << like I say to the 20somethings at work, NOT ENOUGH CONTEXT TO DO ANYTHING BUT KNOW YOUR EMOTIONAL STATE, about which I don't care. jfw get at me and give it a try while I'm at battlestation so I can see wtf. also next time say how you're attempting so some amount of useful activity can take place async
trinque: but I don't know if my point is coming across.
asciilifeform: trinque: ftr i don't even know what did phf in. (it wasn't the ski mishap, obv. but some chronic degeneration)
diana_coman: as to *what* caused the reconnect, I can't say I know exactly: the bot's log duly reports a "listen socket error, disconnecting", followed by the expected reconnect but I can't see / don't know where to look, possibly for anything more informative.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: since I can't say I know *what* you like, that part is not very clear to me: what is it that you don't like about it?
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-07#1934570 - after a first look, it seems to me that it all depends on the degree to which one cares about "the system"; personally I don't care and don't even want to make the venture "caring" but to know what I'm looking for: are their notions (eg of "degrees") of any interest at all?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 06:47:33 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934003 << i don't know if didactic's the word, rather evaluatory. we want to know what exact dragons lay there, in the general, and you declared yourself interested in lisp, so it seemed a very natural fit ; then you self-selected the task and i didnt have any objectiosn, for these reasons.\
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934009 << i don't know yet ; superficially hutchentoot seems like it's python-in-lisp as a stotting exercise by the sort of sparsely-beareded / unemployable postdoc students that do this sort of dumb shit because they can (or can't get laid).
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-06#1934003 << i don't know if didactic's the word, rather evaluatory. we want to know what exact dragons lay there, in the general, and you declared yourself interested in lisp, so it seemed a very natural fit ; then you self-selected the task and i didnt have any objectiosn, for these reasons.\
snsabot: Logged on 2018-11-10 19:40:02 mircea_popescu: so to summarize : 1. one hour (!?) wrangling with auctionbot on the 4th (the result still wrong) ; 2. 2 hours handling three conflated processes (why do you keep notes as an intermediate step ?) on the 5th ; 3. 1 hour reading logs on the 6th ; 4. half hour reading logs on the 7th ; 5. 1.3 h mostly brainstorming on the 8th ? ; 6. half hour doing... i don't know what on the 9th ; 7. 4 (four ?!) hours doing i stil
BingoBoingo: I don't know where a multi-kilometer line isn't an abuse in itself
asciilifeform: i don't presently know why mp_en_viaje makes special pleading for apache et al to exempt'em from 'software is univerally shite'
lobbes: As for *why* these have rotted so: I am not sure. My best guess is that it is because my current #e logotron does many copy operations per hour from the ZNC files (though this is just a stab in the dark; I really don't know if this would cause bitrot)
mp_en_viaje: i don't mind saying, but keep in mind you're doing the equiv of asking columbus things about finding new continents. he ~doesn't know~. irrespective of what data may suggest, he was just there coincidentally, at right time.
trinque: I don't for the record know what I'd say, cognizant that I ought to say.
mircea_popescu: i also don't know how i reason
diana_coman: ultimately sure; currently I don't know; I even sketched quickly an Ada thing - main trouble though is lack of proper db interface (and otherwise relying on GNAT.Sockets and therefore the whole strand of streams etc)
shrysr: asciilifeform: ok, will check and revert. but damnnnnnn its working somewhere..rofl. Its such a cool thing and I don't know why its not standard.
mp_en_viaje: large portion of why i don't even do non-irc, wtf "voicecall" bs. if i explain it here, i know i have ~at least enough~ to reconstruct later ; and that is good enough.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-26#1924853 << i think you're right ; don't feel too bad tho, approach was ~retrospectively~ ill conceived ; prospectively it was necessary. but yes, now we know, and because we know, therefore we hafta fix what dun work ☝︎
spyked: mp_en_viaje, diana_coman: from my side, the infrastructure isn't ready, that is, the www server and possibly other pieces that I don't know about yet