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dorion: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-29#1958582 - welcome back to the tropics.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-29 18:22:16 mp_en_viaje: aaad hello from lovely costa rica!
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deedbot: dorion rated jfw 9 << my best good friend and business partner for many years. Writes at fixpoint.welshcomputing.com. Gales Linux, Gales Scheme, Gales Bitcoin Wallet, etc.
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deedbot: dorion rated diana_coman 9 << she's helping me kill my stupidity. writes at ossasepia.com , owns younghands.club , S.MG CTO.
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deedbot: dorion rated mircea_popescu 9 << the part of you that doesn't like what he says is probably the part holding you back. long history of protecting the intelligent from idiots. MPEx/S.MPOE ; trilema.com ; go, read.
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deedbot: dorion rated hanbot 9 << she delivered numerous righteous smackdowns to idiots as MPOE-PR to help protect Bitcoin during its infancy. writes at thewhet.net
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deedbot: dorion rated BingoBoingo 7 << not afraid to confront and strengthen his weak arm. writes at bingology.net ; editor of qntra.net ; though Pizarro failed, he handled the liquidation well.
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deedbot: dorion rated bvt 7 << he's beating the Linux kernel into human use. very knowledgeable and capable across a wide technical spectrum. writes at bvt-trace.net.
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deedbot: dorion rated spyked 7 << owns feedbot and is mapping TMSR OS hardware. writes at thetarpit.org.
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deedbot: dorion rated trinque 7 << he owns deedbot/deedbot.org and genesis'd irc/logbot and Cuntoo. went by undata in ancient logs. writes at trinque.org
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deedbot: dorion rated whaack 5 << enjoyed his company when he visited Panama. He managed to survive MIT and extract himself from USia to settle on a CR beach, writes at ztkfg.com.
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deedbot: dorion rated lobbes 5 << he owns auctionbot and isn't afraid to punch above his weight. writes at krankendenken.com
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deedbot: dorion rated billymg 4 << he's doing good mp-wp work, writes at billymg.com
dorion is done rating for now.
mp_en_viaje: billymg, just about, wanna-be ameristan. god knows they're spending every available moment clucking at their cluckers. how exactly would that produce substantially different results is anyone's guess.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-02-29#1958594 - ahaha, this sounds so much ~Apoi drumeţul se întoarse acasă şi petrecu lângă ai săi, pe cari-i socoti mai cu duh decât pe cei ce văzuse în călătoria sa.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-29 19:38:43 mp_en_viaje: eleven months and a common man's fortune expended towards the scouring of olde yurp has in the end made me quite happy to be back home.
mp_en_viaje: you know ?
diana_coman: sadly, I quite know, myeah
mp_en_viaje: can't even put into words the "how come", it's just simply that everyone in costa rica is stupid naturally and only to the extension it can't be helped,
mp_en_viaje: whereas the common yurpean is proud of how fucking dumb he's come to be.
mp_en_viaje: of course the perverse part of this is that home turns out to be a tiny unknown strip of jungle 1/4 globe away from my place of birth. but then again, what can you do.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in cititoriy intreaba, noi raspundem... do you recall where that friend of mine who lived with a dog is mentioned ?
diana_coman: well, it takes hard work to get dumb, so ...proud of all the effort!
mp_en_viaje: cititoriy roflmao. i've been hanging out with lanky blonde whores too long!!
diana_coman: cr is unlikely to have those from what I saw.
mp_en_viaje: hm ?
diana_coman: hm, I recall reading the mention + there was surely something in one of your stories but no handle for search comes to mind right now.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: the lanky blonde whores don't seem to be native to cr, lol
mp_en_viaje: oh. no, ukraina. one can import anything!
mp_en_viaje: the curse and also the blessing^Hcurse of the modern man.
diana_coman: ahaha, all right then.
mp_en_viaje: how's the coronal flu in england proud these days ? have ye sad lot seceeded from scotland yet ?
diana_coman: I think that'd be too much work!
mp_en_viaje: right, maybe if they do it themselves. but eventually did quit the eu ? or still "men at work, road closed" ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ah, with the 1st of Feb, yes; as the silent poison said the circus is still on though.
mp_en_viaje: did it do anything yet, as far as can be directly determined ?
diana_coman: re flu it's all right, I'm sure there's plenty of advice and "we'll take care of it" everywhere, except I never quite bother to look and it didn't seem to make any difference
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: neah; well, it made for less interesting "pm's questions" show on wednesdays, that's about it all.
mp_en_viaje: the costa ricans wanted to know whether i visited china, iran or korea in the interval. i wanted to know how they arrived at the list. they wanted to know if i don't watch the news or what's my problem.
diana_coman: ahahah; I thought it was Italy the trouble now!
mp_en_viaje: honestly, if they had forbidden italians travel back in say 1920, it might've saved argentina.
mp_en_viaje: by now, the shit's out of the vessel.
diana_coman: heh, that reminds me of a "work of art" that answered the q of why is Italy shaped like a boot: because that much shit would never fit in a shoe!
diana_coman can't find ofc the article on own blog though I think I did write it.
diana_coman: ha, found it! though the bit is in a comment, the topic fits anyway, I'd say.
mp_en_viaje was reading old ro artyicles anyays, lessee!
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, pfoai tu ce s-o ales de ala ? vaz ca saitu' ii tat chinaspam ca al lu' alalatu' emigrat inteligent.
mp_en_viaje: saracii astia...
mp_en_viaje: Șapte reguli, trei zicale, ce mai zis-a unul mare, hai ca ie bine.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ahaha, ce vrei si tu de la 2010.
mp_en_viaje: no, but i say it plainly, it's fine
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ah, zamo? no idea, kind of drifted away and "too busy" etc so not exactly surprising.
mp_en_viaje: "Filozofii Regi si Parlamentul Perfect - Also Sprach Zamolxis" how do you like them apples! gnat can't survive a decade, mouthfulla big ticket items, philosophers, kings, why the hell not.
mp_en_viaje: i don't recall where's included that picture with the 12yo boy looking angry from under an abundance of spurious shaving cream, but anyways.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, amusingly enough, if one were tasked to discuss your evolution over the past decade, it'd inescapably run something like "she moved on -- from the theoretical, to the practical". am i detaining you from the day's restatement in #o of the basic explanations re "somewhat of a superficial approximation of work" or have you already done the day's quota ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ahaha, it's usually around 7pm UTC for that so no, not yet, heh.
diana_coman thinking re theoretical to the practical.
mp_en_viaje: it's going to end up a satirical piece, "diana : fetch me my arms! page, after a time : i went in the arms room and looked around, saw arms there. diana : good, now fetch. page, after another time : i lifted various over the head, and came back to tell after setting them down again. room for improvmenent : next time ima set them back down in the same places i lifted therm up from"
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: ahahah, not that far away at times, no.
mp_en_viaje: "diana : just bring them here. page, after a time : here's a sketch i drew of me bringing them over."
mp_en_viaje: there was a time when amelia bedelia was a funny character.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile in other lulz, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+wear+make-up+in+a+god+honoring+way
mp_en_viaje: it's a thing!
mp_en_viaje re-read http://trilema.com/2012/clasele-sociale-din-socialismul-contemporan/ ; remarkable how little has fucking changed.
mp_en_viaje: hanbot hey remember http://trilema.com/2013/since-theres-no-end-of-these-unidentified-pointless-objects/ ? :D
mp_en_viaje: and speaking of http://ossasepia.com/2020/02/29/a-basic-requirement-for-the-literate-introducing-of-new-tools/#fn3-5091 what's trinque up to these days ?!
mp_en_viaje: why all the spurts, man ?
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema-hanbot/2020-02-17#1001392 << you can't be serious ?! how's about say cat ? | grep http | sed 's/http/\nhttp/g' | grep ^http | sed 's/\(^http[^ <]*\)\(.*\)/\1/g'
ossabot: (trilema-hanbot) 2020-02-17 BingoBoingo: hanbot_abroad diana_coman: The problem of identifying an article url on a blog url without importing python or something else heavy has me stumped, so I've been reconsidering the possibility of blasting out a crawl over serveral degrees. The flow filewise would be something like 'churn' to 'churndomains' to 'churn2' to 'churndomains2' and so on out to the ending on a list of all the urls scraped in the third or four
mp_en_viaje: or do you mean something else ?
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: http://bvt-trace.net/2020/02/vsh-parts-25-and-3-one-binary-ada-solver-and-ada-vfilter-implementation/#comment-149
trinque: mp_en_viaje: I'm around, been turning a meager win into a sustainable machine.
trinque: diana_coman: I'm happy to "fix my quoting". Who is the source of truth for mpwp?
trinque: if there isn't currently an answer, I'll host the patches.
trinque: I don't have w/e patch improves the quoting mechanism apparently
trinque recently fixed his theme and sidebar, so hopefully it's otherwise in a somewhat more useful state
mp_en_viaje: trinque, cool. so... line1, basically the linux discussion on yoru blog is tabled till q2 ? till 2021 ? something in between ? line 2. we gonna read the story of that win and turning or is it likely to have to be sikrit ?
mp_en_viaje: line 3, you coming to costa rica ?
diana_coman: trinque: billymg works on mpwp and hosts the full tree afaik.
diana_coman: trinque: but I am not sure I follow what you say there - what do you mean by quoting? the select?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i suspect billymg 's thing might not actually include http://trilema.com/2019/proper-html-linking-the-crisis-the-solution-the-resolution-conclusion/#comment-132249
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: if trinque means indeed that aka the selection mechanism,that is anyway not going to be in the tree since it requires a change to the *theme*'s file, no?
trinque: not tabled, and I apologize for the delay. I think it needs about one more post, and then there'll be a whole item described. I've been digging into that this weekend, ought to be able to squeeze it out today or tomorrow.
trinque: re: CR, is there a meeting planned, or is this an open ended question?
trinque: diana_coman: could perhaps include it as a util you can pull into your theme or not
trinque: I've also done some spelunking in the php myself, and there might be other ways to pull it in aside theme, if I can see the patch
trinque: there's a get_header func or something, could come in via that.
trinque brb, coffee
diana_coman: trinque: the ref for the select mechanism is mp_en_viaje's link above aka the article on trilema really; not a vpatch as such afaik.
mp_en_viaje: trinque, rather open ended
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, yes.
mp_en_viaje: the whole "theme" thing is iffy, and part and parcel of why this particular tree (mp-wp) is so deeply misbehaving is that it rests upon a large pile of intricate design errors and failures.
mp_en_viaje: i practically have the choice of either publishing a screamingly offensive non-patch in november of 2019, or else wait until there's a place to meaningfully add it as a patch ; which necessarily is stalled on "what the fuck is the correct cut for themes, cuz it seems evident it isn't what's now done", which in turn rests on a half dozen or so more nodes that are all further away from what is actually being worked now.
mp_en_viaje: in my mind the ideal theme would be a config file, not the current pile of actually executable files wth theme is that. columns = 2; main = left ; main = 2/3; is a theme.
mp_en_viaje: such that someone could try out a theme without having to ~read code~ or worry that who knows what rm -rf is in there
mp_en_viaje: but i see no hope of working all of this out besides taking it by steps and degrees.
mp_en_viaje: then if people don't use the proper linking thing and the dysfunctional js one becomes too entrenched we'll be stuck with it forever and so on and so forth.
mp_en_viaje: trinque, billymg and iirc whaack are here on a more or less permanent basis, so something could most likely be organized, too.
mp_en_viaje: speaking of which, where in cr are you whaack ? i dun remember
mp_en_viaje: dorion, jfw bvt lobbes spyked & other interested parties -- you wanna make something of it ?
mp_en_viaje: i know how to get excellent veuve clicquot & such, etc
mp_en_viaje: iirc diana_coman liked it here last year
mp_en_viaje goes to dig for pix
mp_en_viaje: http://ossasepia.com/2018/09/04/pura-vida-like-no-other/ there we go
diana_coman realises she did not take a pic of the steak!
diana_coman: hah, it's 2 years ago already, what last year.
mp_en_viaje: well, ok, 16 months. you coming back ?
mp_en_viaje: the idea of the dead reckoning bus seating is fabulous. "hello sir, your seat is three steps left from greeting stewardess, two steps right after that"
diana_coman: I honestly have no idea; I did obtain finally all the possible passports though so at least I *can* go anywhere.
billymg: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2020-03-01#1958703 << i have a strong feeling the reason it's *not* this, and the reason the mp-wp genesis is 7x the size of trb genesis by LOC, is because it was designed by the "no one user matters more than another" crowd
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-01 11:28:37 mp_en_viaje: in my mind the ideal theme would be a config file, not the current pile of actually executable files wth theme is that. columns = 2; main = left ; main = 2/3; is a theme.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-02-18 19:29:06 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: to my mind the "no one user matters more than another" means of course "no user matters at all" ; because it follows by necessity.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, well, the problem with anywhere not-here is that the summers do get too hot and the winters too cold. i intend to travel maybe to brazil may-ish, but otherwise i expect i'll be mostly around, so if you feel like it...
mp_en_viaje: billymg, quite possible indeed.
billymg: as for vpatching the server side select mechanism, since mp-wp ships with two base themes a patch could at least be made to include the select mechanism in those. seeing as how most people copy/paste one of the included theme directories to customize/create their own
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: noted.
billymg: at least as an interim until proper theming in mp-wp is solved, just so the correct select mechanism is at least included in the package on first press
mp_en_viaje: billymg, i think that'd be the salutary thing ; that wayy it'll at least carry over passively through edits
mp_en_viaje: mind though that you include the whole shebang, the reason i linked to that comment rather than the article plainly is that the ~correct~ auto-select stubs on pingback were only introduced there
billymg: mp_en_viaje: got it, makes sense
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i hope it doesn't come across as any kind of disinterest or noninviting. i very much would like to do more steaks, but i don't want to produce an obligation.
mp_en_viaje: billymg, with it, one gets the great advantage that pingbacks to his blog also link to the correct place in the article, which imo is big.
billymg: mp_en_viaje: agree. ugh, yeah, i've really been meaning to publish a roadmap for mp-wp that others can comment on
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: thank you and no worries at all; I hope I didn't come across as not wanting to visit either, it's more the 12+ hours travel one way that gives me pause.
billymg: i'll do that this week
billymg: (the roadmap article that is)
diana_coman: bvt: I'll have to check closer what's going wrong with the script on my machine as there seems to be some weird going on, possibly at output rather than anything deeper.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Thank you. I've been making progress fitting more of the tools in my hand and building with them. diana_coman is working me on how to plan, re-examining my relationship with time and how I budget it, and grounding myself in practicality. I've surrendered to diana_coman's mastery and the breaches in my head aren't completely closed yet, but I'm surrendered and working her program.
diana_coman: the above is re the v.sh script .
bvt: ty. if you gzip the work directory and publish it somewhere i'll look into it as well. i also took a stab at indented flow output (http://bvt-trace.net/2020/02/vsh-parts-25-and-3-one-binary-ada-solver-and-ada-vfilter-implementation/#comment-150)
bvt: mp_en_viaje: http://ossasepia.com/2020/02/29/a-basic-requirement-for-the-literate-introducing-of-new-tools/#comment-7669
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i just did it, so yeah. fly avianca though, via colombia, leaving either spain or germany. easily the best airline over the atlantic today.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, a aite then.
mp_en_viaje: bvt, aha, worx
mp_en_viaje: "On the more positive side, based on what he has told us, he made a career from designing and implementing HFT systems for a wide range of fiat exchanges and instruments. He told us at one point he was paying $20k/month for leased lines." << from experience, none of these claims are ever true. [http://trilema.com/2014/how-the-other-half-lives-or-michael-o-church-is-a-scummy-fuckwit/?b=roughly%20Di&e=equivalent#select][people just say thi
mp_en_viaje: ngs].
feedbot: http://ossasepia.com/2020/03/01/martisor/ << Ossa Sepia -- Martisor
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2020/03/qntra-s-qntr-february-2020-report/ << Qntra -- Qntra (S.QNTR) February 2020 Report
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: http://bvt-trace.net/2020/02/vsh-parts-25-and-3-one-binary-ada-solver-and-ada-vfilter-implementation/#comment-152
diana_coman: bvt: http://ossasepia.com/2020/02/29/a-basic-requirement-for-the-literate-introducing-of-new-tools/#comment-7673
trinque: mp_en_viaje: I might be able to travel in summer, don't mind the mugginess as long as there's beach.
trinque: billymg: what did you think of my proposal to suck the quoter up into the get_header func?
trinque: if the problem with wp is that it was designed "for everybody", putting improvements in an optional codepath (themes) seems exactly the wrong thing.
billymg: trinque: i haven't looked closely enough at it yet to say but i will check out get_header and see if i can get it working that way. ty for the lead on that
billymg: trinque: also, hey, i've got about a week left here in austin. if you're not too busy let me know if you'd be up for a drink or some steaks