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diana_coman: did anyone actually press the re-grind of mp-wp genesis ? (this: http://thewhet.net/2018/06/mp-wp-genesis-regrind/ )?
deedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/06/mein-kompendium-mp-wp/ << lobbesblog - Mein Kompendium: mp-wp
mircea_popescu: (in case anyone's wondering WHY such a thing would even occur : it's because http://trilema.com/2017/remember-the-security-hole-automattic-refused-to-fix-back-in-2014/ ; and because the expectation that this works is ~so strong~ among the internet-moron-exploiters, they don't even bother to check that indeed mp-wp doesn't permit it. so they'll try and try and try to "ddos" this way.)
lobbes: this is the point huh? Goal should really be to answer question of 'can mp-wp run on rockchip?'
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-23#1829073 << after some investigation it appears that either mysql and/or php is the issue. In other words, stopping the mysql server (thus killing mp-wp) yields the ability load static 'non-mp-wp' pages that otherwise timeout when the server is running ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ah, crapolade trying to spam. shouldn't really bring mp-wp down afaik.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827999 << a static mysql would be a thing in and of itself! could go in mp-wp too! ☝︎
phf: (to clarify for logs, mp-wp patchset now, correctly, has reground mp-wp_genesis only)
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-11#1822354 << updated, but mp-wp_comments-fix also requires an updated. right now it's showing missing antecedents.. ☝︎
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/06/mp-wp-genesis-regrind/ << The Whet - MP-WP: Genesis Regrind
phf: i added a link on patch pages to "split hunks", which allows to render any patch the way mp-wp genesis is being rendered, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis?inlinep=false
spyked: so mp-wp is an operating system? ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-13#1798159 could then make a great corollary to greenspun's thing) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-pclzip.php << 30+kloc reimplementation of pkzip
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-wp-filesystem-ssh2.php << check ~this~ out. attempt to reimplement... ssh
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-ftp-sockets.php#L23372 << lessee somebody prove this to have no false pos matches
asciilifeform: or, say, http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/includes/class-ftp-sockets.php
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-06#1820837 << good % is simply rubbish, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/wp-admin/import/utw.php ☝︎
spyked: anyway, given my limited experience with wp (nowadays I just lul at the attackers from republic of moldova trying to gain wp-admin access for the old blog), I am ready to admit that mp-wp's may be the optimal permeability of this membrane. I was even tempted to switch to mp-wp, but I'm hoping to see trilema antispam implemented in Lisp at some point in the future.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-05#1820747 <-- I dun disagree at all. as far as the thought experiment goes, I still wonder, though, whether those edges of productivity follow from *all* the lines of mp-wp code and is more than the sum of each, or whether there's a lot of extra crud in there. perhaps overly naively/boyishly at the time, I started my (still ongoing) experiment the other way around ("what is the minimum number of lines to ☝︎
phf: i ended up adding windows newline rendering support, which i'm rather pleased with, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/.htaccess though the pressed version is still broken.. http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/tree/blog/.htaccess
phf: asciilifeform: right, not all of the svgs have multiline base64. and you'll notice that some of the files have windows newlines. i think mp-wp codebase is the one that would benefit the most from the autoformat tool discussed in logs..
a111: Logged on 2018-06-05 18:49 phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis so here's one possible solution, for mp-wp genesis instead of listing hunks inline, i link them to separate pages: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/.htaccess http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/default_avatar.png.svg etc.
phf: on the other hand http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_comments-fix is still rendered the usual way
phf: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis so here's one possible solution, for mp-wp genesis instead of listing hunks inline, i link them to separate pages: http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/.htaccess http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_genesis/hunk/blog/default_avatar.png.svg etc. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-15 04:19 mircea_popescu: hanbot / everyone : speaking of patches for mp-wp, here's something i'd dearly love : a MASS uploader. so you don't have to upload files one by one in the webinterface.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-04 17:36 mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, it's not ~just~ mp-wp that's an eyesore here. in truth it's our whole relationship to the www that's at issue.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820598 <-- indeed it does, and precisely because of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820603 . I don't know how to design a proper comment mechanism, not necessarily because of spam (I believe mp-wp antispam works), but because I'm not convinced that everyone coming on the blog should be able to leave comments, and if they do, then what format (text-only?) etc. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm just saying, it's not ~just~ mp-wp that's an eyesore here. in truth it's our whole relationship to the www that's at issue. ☟︎
phf: just to clarify my blog is mp-wp, i just bastardized the theme to the point of "improvements" being worse than original
asciilifeform: junkyard wars (e.g. trb, mp-wp) where one is stuck welding a tank from 5 zaporozhets and 3 lada carcasses, because that's what there is to work with, inevitably are heavyweight ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( funnily enuff, asciilifeform has ~own~ 'mp-wp' , made from ~same vintage of wp, that does admittedly only half of what mircea_popescu's does ( i dun have the spam filtration ) )
phf: mp-wp is 162093 loc, 6062 of which are containered gif/png. so it's not even that base64 blobs are adding to weight. the codebase is massive
a111: Logged on 2018-06-02 20:02 mircea_popescu: for instance i can't even tell whether hanbot's mp-wp genesis includes a manifest atm, by virtue of it not even being on btcbase.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-02#1820273 << hanbot's mp-wp genesis is 5.8 mb, i haven't yet figured out yet how to make btcbase not fall under the size. at the very least i need to add a caching layer, so that i'm not regenerating 5.8*n for the generated html every time ☝︎
mircea_popescu: for instance i can't even tell whether hanbot's mp-wp genesis includes a manifest atm, by virtue of it not even being on btcbase. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-05-29 05:56 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799701 << esthlos, how'd you resolve this? I'm having the same issue with mp-wp saying php is missing the mysql extension, despite having the mysql USE flag set when I emerged php5.6. Full details of my issue here: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zNr0A/?raw=true
esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819437 << I documented most of what worked for me at http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/ , and my portage settings are http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/CY9Vy/?raw=true ☝︎
lobbes: BingoBoingo: I left a comment on yer guide re: php5.6 shitgnomes deprecating mysql in favor of mysqli. (Should be in queue). This will be a boon indeed if we can string all the quirks of mp-wp-on-rockchip in one place
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, thanks; looking forward to the rest of the walk to mp-wp at any rate (I can see the appeal of ligthtpd for sure)
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-29#1819338 << ty, I plan on blogging the rest of the walk to mp-wp on the rockchip so it is on the shelf for future reference. ☝︎
lobbes: seems indeed no mysql for /dev-lang/php (but then.. how did you get mp-wp working if mysqli evidently can't cut the mustard and no mysql O_o) >> https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-lang/php
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-15#1799701 << esthlos, how'd you resolve this? I'm having the same issue with mp-wp saying php is missing the mysql extension, despite having the mysql USE flag set when I emerged php5.6. Full details of my issue here: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/zNr0A/?raw=true ☝︎☟︎
deedbot: http://thewhet.net/2018/05/mp-wp-fix-for-comments-vpatch/ << The Whet - MP-WP: Fix for Comments vpatch
lobbes: the "error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type" sounds like we have the same issue. Either way, I've no solution yet myself. I figure if I can get mp-wp going with php 7.2 I guess I'll be satisfied for now
mod6: in a pinch -- you could always try to just : `patch -F 0 -E -p1 < mp-wp_genesis.vpatch` in some directory and just inflate the thing.
mod6: When you see it in the flow, then you should be good. Then you'll have to do : ./v.pl p v mpwp mp-wp_genesis.vpatch pd mpwp sd .mpwp-seals ☟︎
douchebag: HEAD: mp-wp_genesis.vpatch not found in flow
douchebag: ./v.pl p v mpwp mp-wp_genesis.vpatch
mircea_popescu: douchebag, http://thewhet.net/2018/04/mp-wp-genesis/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, you could of course put in ye olde mp-wp page limiter, and give all the boecks a very sad surprise.
hanbot: danielpbarron still, it'd be great if we could merge dpb-wp with mp-wp and get something going.
danielpbarron: i've made so many modifications to mp-wp it's like dpb-wp now
hanbot: hey danielpbarron (or any other mp-wp users with 'classic' theme goin'), assuming you're using mp's antispam, wouldja mind pasting your themes/classic/comments.php for me so i can see how you're handling the $suffix? differs from the 'default' i'm using, but i'd like to include a fix for it in a comments patch.
hanbot: and that'll be mp-wp's first patch, eta this week.
deedbot: http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/ << esthlos - Setting up mp-wp
a111: Logged on 2018-05-05 05:31 lobbes: mod6 not yet (been working on getting mp-wp migrated to rockchip). Here's the egogg message I got though >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sOYqV/?raw=true
lobbes: i.e. not yet figured out trb, because I've been working on mp-wp migration
mircea_popescu: that's mp-wp ?
lobbes: mod6 not yet (been working on getting mp-wp migrated to rockchip). Here's the egogg message I got though >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sOYqV/?raw=true ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Mocky, my very good pleasure. mp-wp (as pressed by hanbot recently) may be useful to you.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, consider the eminent case of apache serving mp-wp. the fact that at t1 i updated the article list and at t2 the db read the stale t0 version makes EXACTLY NO DIFFERENCE.
lobbes: Essentially would need it for various php-trons, mp-wp hosting, and irc bottage.
lobbes: Ugh, so my www on my frantech vps has been dog slow all day. Same vps that hosts lobbesbot, so possibly I have finally outgrown the thing (currently hosts bot, mp-wp, archived urls index, eulora price history, and various misc)
hanbot: well, left branch approach does exist; that's why i was even able to put up the mp-wp genesis, after all. as for fix, sure an eta'd be better than no eta. i'm just sayin', doesn't look much like a runner to me.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-25 19:48 phf: hanbot: note that http://barksinthewind.com/2018/vtools-vpatch/#selection-147.0-192.0 i'm going to fix it by wednesday, but if you can give me an unsigned rough draft of a keccak mp-wp.vpatch before then, i'll be able to use it as a test
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the inept way in which postgress handles this case is why mysql still official db for mp-wp
danielpbarron: interestingly, i set the publish date to 2017 june, and mp-wp did exactly what i hoped
asciilifeform: hanbot: in http://thewhet.net/2018/04/mp-wp-genesis some of the linx are broken ( have mysterious chars in'em )
esthlos: hanbot: said I'd get back to you: getting mp-wp running was relatively painless, most of my issues were with LAMP. I wrote down most of what I did here: http://blog.esthlos.com/mp-wp-setup/
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but i guess hacking up some of the trip pics into a theme for pizarro mp-wp can be your pet project << ascii_lander has been gathering quite the collection
mircea_popescu: but i guess hacking up some of the trip pics into a theme for pizarro mp-wp can be your pet project
esthlos: hanbot et al: my mp-wp seems borked: when trying to make a new post, the "tab" to switch to raw HTML is greyed out and does nothing, and HTML tags are ignored. Also, the visual editing features aren't showing at all. Any ideas?
esthlos: Trying to set up mp-wp on php-mysql interaction. Can anyone help me proceed? http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/HMc6z/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: hanbot / everyone : speaking of patches for mp-wp, here's something i'd dearly love : a MASS uploader. so you don't have to upload files one by one in the webinterface. ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 06:53 ben_vulpes: hanbot must have some special sauce in her mp-wp
a111: Logged on 2018-04-12 01:48 hanbot: on the mp-wp newsfront, i've a pressed genesis via phf's lastest leftwards/keccak vtools. am waiting on pizarro folks to get apache & mod_rewrite going so i can test it and see to the initial patches it'll need.
mircea_popescu: http://thewhet.net/2018/04/mp-wp-genesis/ << interestingly enough, this still doesn't. what's the danielpbarron hanbot difference i wonder.
shinohai: http://thewhet.net/2018/04/mp-wp-genesis/ <<< 404
hanbot: http://thewhet.net << lastest post (mod_rewrite ergo links not yet live, or i'd link y'all directly) is mp-wp_genesis. esthlos and anyone else who was waiting on this is encouraged to test it out --setting up a test blog-within-a-blog is gonna be a royal pita and cause yet further delays, so please do try it out, lemme know how it goes.
mircea_popescu: it has nothing to do with apache ; let everyone who isn't hanbot fix their mp-wp
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-12 06:49 ben_vulpes: hanbot danielpbarron: apache with mod_php is, sadly, much slower than the nginx setup we've had until now. however now we can move forward with getting your .htaccess files set up and uploads and such. i'm going to knock off for now but please let me know how i can support your mp-wp projects next.
ben_vulpes: hanbot must have some special sauce in her mp-wp ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i don't believe it's either apache or mysql. i expect is unhappy interaction between your ad-hoc dns mapping and mp-wp.
mircea_popescu: ah, lol. are you referencing the mp-wp as "localhost:800/whatever/index.php" ?
mircea_popescu: is your mp-wp isntall depending on eg a theme you don't have referencing images that don't exist or w/e ?\
ben_vulpes: 2.7 to serve the index.php from my copy of mp-wp
ben_vulpes: okay now for the next wtf: phpinfo returns instantly, i can open a database connection from php and query for the number of tables, but when i use the mp-wp index.php shit slows to a 2.7 second crawl
hanbot: on the mp-wp newsfront, i've a pressed genesis via phf's lastest leftwards/keccak vtools. am waiting on pizarro folks to get apache & mod_rewrite going so i can test it and see to the initial patches it'll need. ☟︎
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-10#1795174 <-- I wrapped those into pre tags, but it seems they got parsed anyway. replacing all < with &lt; and crossing my fingers; but if mp-wp has some other way of rendering math, lemme know. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: so here's a wonder: apache for some reason takes 2.2 seconds to serve an mp-wp file that nginx can cough up in ten ms; even though both are nominally passing the same files over to php fpm pools
mircea_popescu: https://hackernoon.com/mastodon-is-dead-in-the-water-888c10e8abb1 << this tard just spent 5k words to dance about "solutions" to a problem he imagines, and somehow magically never landing on "pop up a server and put mp-wp on it ; it'll do pingbacks and that's that."
a111: Logged on 2018-04-07 01:24 hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793747 << http://thewhet.net/mp-wp_genesis.vpatch
mircea_popescu: hanbot : file -bi reports "text/x-diff; charset=us-ascii", which seems proper ; however awk -vFS="" '{for(i=1;i<=NF;i++)w[$i]++}END{for(i in w) print i,w[i]}' 'mp-wp_genesis.vpatch' spits out http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/YQn0g/?raw=true which shows the problem -- you got a buncha garbage single-occurence chars in there.
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 21:19 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793646 << i'm moving too slow, please wait till tomorrow for me to push the regrind with fixes. if you can give me that version of mp-wp.vpatch unsigned that would be helpful
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793747 << http://thewhet.net/mp-wp_genesis.vpatch ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-04-06 19:35 hanbot: latest in mp-wp saga: spyked's patch on vtools let me gpr build the phf's patcher and vdiff, latter of which made a genesis, former of which dies on pressing wiff: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2IVPp/?raw=true
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-06#1793646 << i'm moving too slow, please wait till tomorrow for me to push the regrind with fixes. if you can give me that version of mp-wp.vpatch unsigned that would be helpful ☝︎☟︎
hanbot: latest in mp-wp saga: spyked's patch on vtools let me gpr build the phf's patcher and vdiff, latter of which made a genesis, former of which dies on pressing wiff: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/2IVPp/?raw=true ☟︎
phf: mircea_popescu: let's revisit this question in a couple of days, i'll give it some thought too. i want to finish regrind in the next day before hanbot is done with standing up her mp-wp instance
hanbot: hey mircea_popescu: people are wanting to get an mp-wp --is my understanding of the situation correct, ie proablem i had with making vdiff --> proablem with v itself --> folks are reformulating these?