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asciilifeform: who in his right mind would consider 'apple', for instance, if microshit did not exist
BingoBoingo: Why, because they aren't Apple who has the press gloss over "The canary died because it became unecessary, not because a warrant came to kill it"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: i just love how the krugman shitgnomes prattle on about the need for physical 'use-value' in currencies and then go on to bid on apple-1 pcbs and jackson pollack paintings << they are stupid and how dare you demand they be consistent!
asciilifeform: i just love how the krugman shitgnomes prattle on about the need for physical 'use-value' in currencies and then go on to bid on apple-1 pcbs and jackson pollack paintings
kakobrekla: >Apple-1 Sells for World Record $905,000 USD at Bonhams
jurov: and apple-like walled garden regulation of whole computing industry is quite a different thing
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: at any rate, this is doubly funny to me, given that i grew up associating apple hardware with 'decadent rich'
asciilifeform: (apple-II clone)
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: north apple is best apple << that'd be soviet 'agat' computer ?
kakobrekla: north apple is best apple.
kakobrekla: artifexd never had, never will have any apple products.
asciilifeform: also easier to do this with non-apple gizmos, where there is not an elaborate boobytrap chipset in there, to try to keep you from 'jailbreaking'
kakobrekla: just cant swallow apple. sry no can do.
kakobrekla: <asciilifeform> microshit-free. < id rather be apple free than ms free given only those 2 options. call me retarded or whatever dun care.
thestringpuller: http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/22/technology/mobile/apple-pay-double-charge/index.html
asciilifeform: qnx << a very interesting item, and i loved playing with it when young, but it was inevitably bulldozed by the age of no-you-can't-make-money-selling-close-os-unless-you-re-apple-or-microshit
assbot: Why You Can't Manufacture Like Apple - Slashdot
asciilifeform: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/14/09/20/1651241/why-you-cant-manufacture-like-apple << not entirely unrelated
ThickAsThieves: exactly like Apple's login page."
ThickAsThieves: "China got its first official shipments of new iPhones last week, but a new report from web censorship watchdog Great Fire indicates Chinese users may be facing an unpleasant surprise when they try to connect to Apple services at large. As of last night, the Chinese firewall is blocking all local connections to iCloud.com, redirecting those connections to a dummy site designed to look
asciilifeform: just removes some of the anal anaesthetic applied by apple during first penetration
BingoBoingo: decimation: Well, poettering/rh basically wants to cut down the number of distros so they can be an Apple
asciilifeform: decimation: apple and usg are not distinct entities.
decimation: I suspect that usg is apple's bitch and not vice versa
thickasthieves: apple's stuff so far is 6bit with 8bit sim
pete_dushenski: lol new apple a8x chip from ipadair2 has a barometer
assbot: Apple's new "chief of secrecy" is Stephen Colbert, who Federighi is calling on the phone right now... http://t.co/frFPi496fj
pete_dushenski: https://twitter.com/wjrothman/status/522801788685008896 << apple descends further into parody
thickasthieves: from the presentation apple is giving now http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/18244/DSC_0262.jpg
asciilifeform: ^ everyone is probably familiar with the turds apple's os drops on fat32 file systems when writing
asciilifeform: incidentally, the apple emulator ban is an instance of a much larger and more interesting phenomenon.
assbot: Apple KILLS SUPER MARIO. And Zelda. And Sonic The Register
asciilifeform: speaking of apple -- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/09/apples_kills_super_mario_and_zelda_and_sonic_bastards
asciilifeform: apple was kept alive to play 'good cop' to microshit in the '90s, yes.
asciilifeform: apple could not manufacture its current x86 product line without access to at least a good subset of intel's 'real dirt', no.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i meant intel and apple.
assbot: PC World: Apple G5 Gets Trounced By Athlon 64 - Slashdot
BingoBoingo: Remember those couple years when Intel was out of the CPU speed competition http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/03/10/15/1251233/pc-world-apple-g5-gets-trounced-by-athlon-64?sbsrc=thisday
mircea_popescu: if industry worked like you represent it here apple would have no choice but to list 20 trillion in assets worldwide.
bounce: if the fab is laid up there's lots of tax break leverage. but you'd have to be a big corp to really make that happen. you know, apple and their sea^Wocean of bezzle. they can't use it in the usa though, have to buy up something somewhere else.
pete_dushenski: "11-10-2014 Apple confirms that with DL1769 in place that "The issue that remains, while it raises interesting questions, is not a security issue in and of itself."
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: no, seriously - apple -only- ships 6-bit panels. in all products. since '08 or so.
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: apple ships 6-bit only for several years now.
mircea_popescu: how does ziri work or w/e was apple calling its paperclip ?
mircea_popescu: saying that the only thing this apple's good for is the pigs doesn't amount to a suggesting feeding the pigs.
thickasthieves: icahn is sending an open letter to apple today or something
mircea_popescu: the false dichotomy here being that either you apple (onlt accept stuff we made) or else foss (accept any turd)
thickasthieves: or ways to bite into apple's apple by being hipper
mircea_popescu: so what are you proposing, ways for apple to optimize its being apple ?
thickasthieves: nubbins` well we're left with apple and the streamers still
mircea_popescu: yes, apple will go bankrupt. yes, the music distribution model of dino de laurentiis will die.
mircea_popescu: so what exact problem do you figure "ipoing" will solve ? apple needs your ipo like i need a beard implant.
mircea_popescu: apple sells 25bn songs and if you put one for sale it suddenly gets five views and a candian quarter.
nubbins`: i've bought music through apple
thickasthieves: apple reports selling 25billion songs
assbot: Brand New RARE Apple iPhone 6 Prototype 64GB | eBay
punkman: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Rare-Apple-iPhone-6-Prototype-64gb-/171483815097
assbot: Virtual Apple 2 - Online disk archive -- Oregon Trail
assbot: EU Says Apple Inc.'s Irish Tax Deal is Illegal
thickasthieves: http://www.pfhub.com/eu-says-apple-incs-irish-tax-deal-is-illegal-1240/
MolokoDesk: apple-style evangelism, maybe.
pete_dushenski: https://itunes.apple.com/app/id719829352?mt=8&&referrer=click%3D3219c86e-2bd6-4eee-ba61-0b8f9e525b43 << kinda interesting… internetless messaging
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/09/my-coworkers-made-me-use-mac-os-9-for-their-and-your-amusement
decimation: when everyone wants an ipad that works well, but it appears apple's sexy has worn off a bit
decimation: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/29/technology/personaltech/glum-sign-for-apple-in-china-smuggled-iphones-go-begging-.html?_r=0
ben_vulpes: apple's done a decent job on the software jailing, so the phone operating system doesn't rot quite as quickly as its counterparts, so they're forced to release new "operating systems" that consume ever more resources.
Diablo-D3: apple ships phones with icloud backup automatically enabled
ben_vulpes: other amazing apple stuff
asciilifeform: if you want a pocket-sized apparatus to read, say, email, you're more or less stuck choosing whether to live in 'singapore' (apple) or 'liberia' ('android')
ben_vulpes: it's apple's thinger.
Diablo-D3: you can only use apple's shit
ben_vulpes: his hypotheses: she'd plugged his phone into her computer at some point and "sure whatevere"'d all his photos onto her computer, and thence to apple
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: everyone likes to laugh at apple. but there is no obvious alternative to some of their products.
ben_vulpes: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=264 << funny story re apple shit
decimation: you know, if apple (and the rest of the silly-con valley band) really want to save money, why not relocate to des moines?
mats_cd03: apple's burning cash building a new campus next to cupertino village
decimation: ah I see. apparently symbolics later marketed a card to install in apple stuff though
asciilifeform: decimation: 'maclisp' had nothing whatsoever to do with apple.
decimation: No I'm thinking of maclisp, which is unrelated to apple I guess
decimation: also apple had a lisp machine later on right
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> apple << wtf is the point of 'canary' if everyone ignores, makes up justifications, when it croaks. << "everyone" ? the us agitprop (calling itslef "mainstream media") is not everyone just like tardstalk.org is not everyone in bitcoin.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: apple << wtf is the point of 'canary' if everyone ignores, makes up justifications, when it croaks. << just because puppets talking "ignore" doesn't mean everyone ignores
asciilifeform: apple << wtf is the point of 'canary' if everyone ignores, makes up justifications, when it croaks.
BingoBoingo: Eh, the new Apple stuff seems to have a bunch of built in side channels to keep syncing the device with the desktop easy
assbot: Breaking: FBI Director says the bureau is talking to Apple and Google about new encryption settings. Story to come.
BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/dannyyadron/status/515205493623898112 << Guess the apple warrant canary disappeared because... warrant
asciilifeform: i finally realized - they cribbed the 'dust bin' from -- apple.
kakobrekla: well anything not apple is not apple turdware, just turdware.
asciilifeform: 'is not apple turdware'
asciilifeform: (as discussed re: apple, here http://www.loper-os.org/?p=132 )
asciilifeform: decimation: apple was also, occasionally, pretty neat.
asciilifeform: decimation: 'next' burned it, salted the earth where it stood, and renamed self 'apple'.
asciilifeform: decimation: apple as traditionally understood - does not exist now.
decimation: In retrospect, apple should have gotten on the bsd/nextstep bandwagon around '90 or so
decimation: actually I was sad when apple capitulated to wintel
decimation: apple is famous for deprecating any feature that an advanced user would find useful
asciilifeform: plenty of damning things can be said about apple products that are... actually true.
asciilifeform: (even in apple's machines, afaik)
ben_vulpes: apple's shit's all about "end user experience"
ben_vulpes: microsoft, apple