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assbot: Apple Just Had The Most Profitable Quarter Of Any Company Ever | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1D8kBnu )
mats: http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/27/apple-just-had-the-biggest-quarterly-earnings-of-any-company-ever/
pete_dushenski: or to apple that they're updates make everything worse
davout: ben_vulpes: apple numbers is unsuited for math either, it uses floats...
ben_vulpes: *seasoned* apple users totally boggled - "what did you use for that?!"
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] this is the thing that always blew my mind about serious apple aficionados - they will pay, 20-100 usd, for a proggy that ought to be a 3-line perl script << funny, this
assbot: Apple Software Quality Questions | Monday Note ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bo8K55 )
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] ben_vulpes, possibly other folks who work on apple machines: http://www.mondaynote.com/2015/01/18/apple-software-quality-questions << tell me about it
pete_dushenski: i've never trusted apple bluetooth
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 'alt' is, iirc, called 'option' on apple box.
asciilifeform: this is the thing that always blew my mind about serious apple aficionados - they will pay, 20-100 usd, for a proggy that ought to be a 3-line perl script
pete_dushenski: but apple's config doesn't recognise "alt"
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: apple's config thing has built-in key mapper
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: which apple keyboard did you own ?
pete_dushenski: i even bought my first non-apple keyboards recently
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: article is not the first i hear out of serious, habitual apple users re: decay.
assbot: Apple Software Quality Questions | Monday Note ... ( http://bit.ly/1BnSiSi )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, possibly other folks who work on apple machines: http://www.mondaynote.com/2015/01/18/apple-software-quality-questions
punkman: "Apple has agreed to accept the Chinese government’s demands to run network safety evaluations on all Apple products before they can be imported into the country."
ben_vulpes: i derp through apple's code signing shitshow so that they can focus on writing moar softs
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i think ben_vulpes writes softs for apple's stuff commercially ?
kakobrekla: you guys dont survive without apple turds?
thestringpuller: Target: x86_64-apple-darwin13.4.0
thestringpuller: Apple LLVM version 6.0 (clang-600.0.56) (based on LLVM 3.5svn)
ben_vulpes: i'm submitting builds to apple
ben_vulpes: apple pay's going to try to gobble all the banks, so if my bank's truthful about it being apple's fault, i'll just end up with the same problem.
ben_vulpes: apple refuses to say anything
ben_vulpes: bank claims its apple
ben_vulpes: bank claims that this feature is being crammed down their throats by apple for apple pay
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] if the fashion looks like it doesn't have the steam, backlash prevails. << i wonder if Apple has the steel to pull off their watch play.
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i'm not buying a non-Apple mobile computer
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] "apple is not a technology, apple is a vision" << oh jesus 51% sent me a bill to review in apple's proprietary spreadsheet format today
mircea_popescu: "apple is not a technology, apple is a vision"
mircea_popescu: "yes but apple actually has a price feed"
asciilifeform: this is a considerably less-fantastic scenario than it would have appeared to be in the '90s, because of the 'nintendoization' of computing. gpg simply won't appear in the apple and microshit 'app stores' and thereby vanish
davout: it appears that if we want to make a proper apple pie from scratch we'll have to invent the universe first
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nominally open-source, but in the same sense as apple's 'darwin' kernel - that is, nobody who isn't paid, reads it
decimation: mircea_popescu: conversely, it makes 'total sense' for the management of apple or whoever to buy back stock
asciilifeform: if apple, google, spend 1000 usd, publicly - think of the stock value
mircea_popescu: why's google, apple and etc not pay a trillion ? it's just bezzlars anyway.
decimation: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/15/technology/silicon-valley-antitrust-case-settlement-poaching-engineers.html << lol "To head off a trial and the exposure of reams of incriminating emails, Google, Apple, Intel and Adobe — the four remaining defendants — are offering to pay $415 million, according to a person with knowledge of the negotiations." "Last spring, the two sides agreed on $324.5 million. After legal fees, that would
mircea_popescu: guess what, by the same measure apple, ibm, the us fed and washington post stock are all ponzi schemes.
Adlai: you can verify their quality visually, no holes / mould - it's a good apple
mircea_popescu: apple as money strikes me as rank nonsense, but ymmv
mircea_popescu: they missed december. apple can miss. once. maybe. bitpay can't miss.
mircea_popescu: and in the end it killed ms, but then... google was born, and apple was reborn, and here we are.
asciilifeform: apple's bsd fork is the likely model
asciilifeform: but apple, etc. love it on account of no gpl
pete_dushenski: now they make shiny things a la apple and lv
mircea_popescu: what's the difference between apple pie and pineapple pie ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> still a horrible use of dollars. apple got to be apple by paying about 2-5% of that, over a decade. << It's a fake money problem really. Too many VC dollars that can't actually buy things so they go marketing pissing matches.
mircea_popescu: still a horrible use of dollars. apple got to be apple by paying about 2-5% of that, over a decade.
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mircea_popescu: pre apple.
asciilifeform: 'Bitcoin, Apple Pay and Google Wallet' << mega-lol
BingoBoingo: Nice. FU APPLE PAY!!! You go second.
assbot: Apple forces nude immigrants to cover up in iPad version of Papers, Please [Updated] | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1uvgnAz )
asciilifeform: moar interesting: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/12/apple-forces-nude-immigrants-to-cover-up-in-ipad-version-of-papers-please
mircea_popescu: best racket ever, if princeton sold shares in itself it'd obliterate the apple.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Apple, the heritage company was never entirely innocent on the cabling front (Apple desktop bus, etc) The portable gadgets yes did demand a still more grotesque submission. Thankfully pawn shops love Apple shit.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it is interesting to see how apple corp. (the renamed 'next', not the original) put to use its total monopoly in portable computerized gadgets not immediately discardable as junk to push perverse anachronisms that would have been laughed off if from another (weird proprietary cabling, required closed-source 'sync' apps, etc.)
BingoBoingo: Didn't realize apple died till junior year of college when I got an iPod to replace a Rio MP3 player and was introduced to iTunes
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Summer before college I though I'd buy a new Apple on their financing, had not realized company had died. Mercifully was declined and got a used Dell Latitude.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the company 'apple' died, in '99, replaced silently with 'next'. but you knew this.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as a boy, i often thought that i would grow up, 'have money', and buy an apple computer - at least to try it (the crippled machines at schools, etc. were an interesting diversion, and i imagined that mac is 'rich man's computer' somehow) ☟︎
assbot: And now I shall be off scarfing smoked salmon and fresh apple pie seasoned with free market tears, or Why a collection of confused retards does not amount to a free market. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ywDtJd )
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell decimation http://trilema.com/2013/and-now-i-shall-be-off-scarfing-smoked-salmon-and-fresh-apple-pie-seasoned-with-free-market-tears-or-why-a-collection-of-confused-retards-does-not-amount-to-a-free-market/#footnote_0_49891 << prolly relevant to your interests.
assbot: Logged on 27-11-2014 08:57:03; mircea_popescu: decimation: sign, google or apple, pick your poison <<< yeah, isn't chrome basically one of those spammy "toolbars" they had for netscape that sort-of mutated into being its own browser ?
asciilifeform: mactardism is a very visual field. it doesn't account much for function << complicated. apple corp. is still running on fumes from a gigantic tank of back-when-everything-else-was-a-joke in a number of palpable ways. see also http://www.loper-os.org/?p=132
nubbins`: i sort of just ended up with a bunch of apple devices
mircea_popescu: anyway, the lulziest part was all the inept tardstalk-level shilling, "o noes apple is not overvalued"
mircea_popescu: which is exactly why you can't "sell apple and buy all russian paper + 1 ipad for each russian citizen"
decimation: note that apple has no problem punishing customers
assbot: Fun Number: Apple Is Now Worth More Than The Entire Russian Stock Market - Forbes ... ( http://bit.ly/15DusHv )
mircea_popescu: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/11/16/fun-number-apple-is-now-worth-more-than-the-entire-russian-stock-market/
mircea_popescu: lol pete was an apple boi!
mircea_popescu: decimation: sign, google or apple, pick your poison <<< yeah, isn't chrome basically one of those spammy "toolbars" they had for netscape that sort-of mutated into being its own browser ? ☟︎
decimation: sign, google or apple, pick your poison
mthreat: even apple only takes 30%!
asciilifeform: the apple et. al. 'born again in crypto' thing is cheap psyop.
assbot: DOJ Tells Apple Kids Will Die Because of Their Encryption Stand | DSLReports, ISP Information ... ( http://bit.ly/1uOdpMd )
mats_cd03: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/DOJ-Tells-Apple-Kids-Will-Die-Because-of-Their-Encryption-Stand-131411
Pierre_Rochard: apple pie <- that’s what I’m shooting for
mircea_popescu: or maybe i'll just have some apple pie instead!
BingoBoingo prolly should have splurged for the Apple II GS
assbot: Macintosh Color Classic Ethernet Card Apple LC 575 PDS Farallon New Networking | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1HnzxCf )
assbot: Apple Macintosh Color Classic Computer w Keyboard and Mouse 5554 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1HnzxCb )
BingoBoingo: Real computer http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Macintosh-Color-Classic-Computer-w-Keyboard-and-Mouse-5554-/111502858502?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item19f6169906 Network connectvity http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macintosh-Color-Classic-Ethernet-Card-Apple-LC-575-PDS-Farallon-New-Networking-/231332620598?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item35dc7fa936
mats_cd03: 'apple users have money and they want to spend it here'
thestringpuller: how apple managed to get everyone to use them as a payment processor really kinda mind boggles me
BingoBoingo: "Apple" never had a chance at that.
decimation: one wonders what would have happened if apple actually went down the lisp machine route
BingoBoingo: U can't measure apple color with tools, because Apple is beyond measuring with tools http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/10/why-is-the-new-imac-5k-instead-of-4k-its-all-about-the-video-baby/
thickasthieves: it's why i always loved the Apple logo designer
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform were you looking for this the other day vis-a-vis apple-1 ? http://www.contravex.com/2014/05/15/forget-cpi-inflation-is-measured-with-art/
Adlai: dunno, some of apple's earlier hardware was boy-nice too
mircea_popescu: apple it's what yahoo has aspired at all these years. if they had any sense, they wouldn't have hired melissa no clue, they'd have hired jobs back then
asciilifeform has a collection of apple gizmos for similar purposes
mircea_popescu: don't forget that. apple isn't a tech company, it's a media company.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> who in his right mind would consider 'apple', for instance, if microshit did not exist << i don't run a windows machine. for me ms might as well not exist. however, i did get apple powered tablet to check out their game marketplace.