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nubbins`: looks 3d printed, custom job i'm assuming
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1256 @ 0.00057945 = 0.7278 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [D.BTGO] 12 @ 0.0524997 = 0.63 BTC
mircea_popescu: tbh i kinda like destroying kbds. strokes my immortality delusion.
kakobrekla: perhaps there are better things to destroy
mircea_popescu: and if i use it to cut a hole in my wall ima need a new wall.
mircea_popescu: pretty much only english layout kbd i could find here.
[]bot: Bet placed: 999 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment"
http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 29(Y):71(N) by coin, 47(Y):53(N) by weight. Total bet: 3817.19563162 BTC. Current weight: 40,234.
kakobrekla: also []bot is still broked, missing bets
assbot: An Apparent Keyboard Geek Finally Learns to Type | Byte Cellar
mircea_popescu: lol so basically bitbet is now sitting pretty on 30-40 btc unearned income ?
assbot: Bitcoin Transaction cefd947f657dcb436a56e1c7fa62a0f38daa7ff0057fb1fc354bfdbbc0e98c31
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> lol so basically bitbet is now sitting pretty on 30-40 btc unearned income ? << Just imagine if people decided to fuck with BitBet by using referal links and cut that to 15 - 20
mircea_popescu: o look, cloudflare is failing to protect blockchain.info and claiming the problem resides with blockchain info.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> they can only cut future revenue/unearned incomes << Right, the move to cut referalls from all of a bet's rake to part of it was solid
mircea_popescu: no, it's just, the bets that are already in are already in, referrals already paid and accounted for.
BingoBoingo: I know, but I mean in the future where every scam site tries to Raep BitBet referrals because it pays better than advertising
gribble: Error: "market-last" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: ;;calc 3817.19563162 * [ticker --last]
kakobrekla: dun worry, it will be less million soon
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00074595 = 14.546 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: i like the guy's style tho. testing bitbet deposit address with one bitcoin!
decimation: I use a unicomp on a mac, it lacks the 'f-key' panel on the left
assbot: Dogecoin transactions are outpacing those in bitcoin; here's why that's not surprising - The Tell - MarketWatch
mircea_popescu: ahhh, nothing quite like a little bit of historical, failed shilling.
decimation: press organs are about as accountable as usg 'leaders'
assbot: Obama Attacks Fox News In Northwestern Speech | The Daily Caller
decimation: "“But I have laid out my ideas to create more jobs and grow more wages,” Obama told students at Northwestern University following a high-dollar fundraiser for Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn. ”A true opposition party should have the courage to lay out theirs. There’s a reason fewer Republicans are preaching doom on deficits – because they’re now manageable.”"
decimation: fox news' biggest mistake is covering this guy at all
decimation: 'lunatic leftie derps to young idiots', click here to learn more
decimation: well, I guess he's in favor of growing the bureaucracy
mircea_popescu: actually, the better question being, what IS left anymore anyway.
mircea_popescu: seems totally bankrupt ideology. intellectually, practically... what's it stand for anymore ?
decimation: well, I would suggest that the left has so utterly dominated for so long that they have become a cartoon of themselves
thickasthieves: i have a feeling this berksire bet will be legendary past our years
mircea_popescu: more like, the derpage in charge has been nominally identified as "left" for so long.
decimation: I guess the ideological leftists are nominally in favor of the derps
mircea_popescu: thickasthieves actually, it's quite possible it's the only thing that'l even be remembered
mircea_popescu: sort-of like nobody remembers glbse, or bitcoin magazine, or w/e other derpage went on in the 2012s.
mircea_popescu: the thing with that is... people have waited for a while. as a result the sides are weight-unbalanced. the seed 1k on yes has a 100k weight whereas current bets only get 40k
decimation: it'll be awesome of btc/usd goes up another leg in the next few months and that bet becomes bigger than whatsapp
mircea_popescu: which btw... i wonder if one day the dollar value of bets will be < the pool values :D
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> actually, the better question being, what IS left anymore anyway. << Honestly as an alternative to fleeing the US staying back to oversee partitioning is becoming an attractive option
mircea_popescu: decimation totally lol. if btc runs up to say 800 that no;ll need a shitload o' hedgin'.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Basically taking pictures, recording the lulz
decimation: BingoBoingo: except you are basically propsing that you want to surf the wave of terror to power
decimation: works out for some, not so much for otheres
BingoBoingo: decimation: Nah, maybe I just want to see the world burn? I've got a camera. I've got a tent. By oversee I don't mean taking control, but documenting the absence of control for great lulz.
decimation: sure, sounds like fun. maybe we can 'mad max' together over the western wastes
BingoBoingo: One can't exactly oversee entropy in the same way one oversaw order on the plantations
assbot: Virtual Apple 2 - Online disk archive -- Oregon Trail
nubbins`: s.mg bet cleared, trying to think of ways to make next one more interesting
nubbins`: well i don't really have an s.nsa stock warrant sitting idle
nubbins`: simple job, no need to complicate w/ warrants
assbot: Local news from Rock Hill, SC | The Herald
nubbins`: "labeling of the company as bogus and scammers"
nubbins`: your company is bogus and scammers!
assbot: Self-Destructing SSDs Will Nuke Themselves If You Text Them a Code Word
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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 95 @ 0.01079757 = 1.0258 BTC [-] {3}
mats_cd03: i've been forced to reconnect five or six times in the last three weeks
mats_cd03: failing marks for bad uptime mates
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assbot: What I Learned from My Time in Prison | Daily Stormer
Dimsler: BingoBoingo, thats a good read
decimation: odin doth frown upon the state of norway
Dimsler: for doing 50km/h over the limit
Dimsler: all those germanic places creap me the fuck out
Dimsler: as much as i love swedish girls
Dimsler: the nords are just on another planet
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8591 @ 0.00074248 = 6.3786 BTC [+]
Dimsler: not too sure how this hick from the ozarks is relating himself to anytype of nord valhalla anything
BingoBoingo: Dimsler: My understanding of it is that in US prisons Scandanavian lore is appropriated so as to be "Whiter than the Brits"
mircea_popescu: I've got a camera. I've got a tent. << lmao what an attitude
DanielKrawisz: I don't understand IRC very well. I'm trying to get into the WOT.
Dimsler: you have to get into WOW first
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]
Dimsler: what the fuck is the nakamatoinstitute?
Dimsler: seriously are you going to be preaching the satoshibible here?
BingoBoingo: <Dimsler> what the fuck is the nakamatoinstitute? << Recent college kids playing with the idea of an online museum
mircea_popescu: DanielKrawisz this "reddit should build on bitcoin" stuff is lulzy.
DanielKrawisz: Basically, we started out as an econ discussion group at a university called the Mises Circle, but then I got everyone talking almost exclusively about bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: reddit is there to try and leech something if at all possible. sort-of like an online hot topic.
decimation: BingoBoingo: I suspect that some degree of 'white power' in prision is 'us v. them'
DanielKrawisz: And then we were like, "Wouldn't it be hilarious if we started the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute?" for a while and then we stopped making jokes about it and just did it.
Dimsler: reddit is built off cat pictures and gonewild
Dimsler: its a source of amusement, entertainment, and misinformation
DanielKrawisz: Yeah, I think reddit doesn't quite understand what they're doing.
mircea_popescu: <mats_cd03> why does freenode suck so much << because they essentially gave up ? just riding things as they are into the night, as it were.
Dimsler: a pascification of the proletariat
Dimsler: DanielKrawisz, they fully understand what they are doing
Dimsler: they are doing what cryptographics has made popular
Dimsler: there own digital currency
mircea_popescu: <Dimsler> seriously are you going to be preaching the satoshibible here? <<< unlike 99% of the derps derping about bitcoin, i don't recall these folks saying anything infuriatingly stupid.
DanielKrawisz: Oh yeah, we always complain about the stupidity over in our group too.
Dimsler: mircea_popescu, he called it the nakamoto institute
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> I've got a camera. I've got a tent. << lmao what an attitude << Given the alternatives in Usaschwitz, that Thompson guy found an interesting defense against the Feds with his selectively unreliable narration.
Dimsler: how is that not initself infuriating
mircea_popescu: i dunno, it doesn't get me. it doesn't have bit into it.
mircea_popescu: if it were the nakabit insticoin it'd have been more annoying. course also lulzier.
mircea_popescu: especially if the bad instigation puns started flowing.,
DanielKrawisz: Well we wanted to use that name because we agreed that a lot of the bitcoin world was trying to downplay him.
Dimsler: people that put bit or coin into anything should be publically flogged
Dimsler: DanielKrawisz, because cryptographics was not invented by him
Dimsler: and cryptographic based currencies and other online currencies have been around since digicash
mircea_popescu: DanielKrawisz that's unavoidable. it's the nature of the ignorant twerps making up the us horde, to overplay their own narcisism against history.
mircea_popescu: i'm surprised nobody's yet acting as if they invented hitler, back in iowa or something
DanielKrawisz: It's a money substitute, like a bank note. I'm writing a paper on this stuff now.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying cars have been around since 1600 because oxcarts.
mircea_popescu: there is exactly zero continuity between bitcoin and all the idiotic derpage prior.
Dimsler: DanielKrawisz, can you write about how satoshi didn't understand economics and based his theory on murray rothbards teachings
mircea_popescu: Dimsler wouldja stop trying to drive people into a wall deliberately.
DanielKrawisz: Then there were some proposals for digital collectibles; b-money, RPOW, and bit gold. Those things were an important step forward, but RPOW was the only one ever implemented, and it didn't take off. I don't think they would have worked. Bitcoin fixed a lot of stuff that they got wrong.
mircea_popescu: yeah, like, penicillin fixed a lot of stuff shaman cures got wrong.
mircea_popescu: let's be clear here : wanting something, no matter how intensively, is NOT grounds for relation with the thing once made.
Dimsler: DanielKrawisz, quantitative monetary theory
mircea_popescu: this is the difference between invention and daydreaming, something my mother explained to me when i was like 6
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and i wanted to know if when someone invents something, they have to also say how it's to be made
☟︎ DanielKrawisz: Well Bitcoin used a lot of elements and ideas from the digital collectibles, so I think there is some continutity, but it's very innovative too.
mircea_popescu: DanielKrawisz zero elements. i challenge you, list one such
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: surprised nobody's yet acting as if they invented hitler << americans used to. huey p. long was supposed to be 'original hitler' << Long himself had a prototype in William Jennings Bryant
Dimsler: i thought chaplin was the original hitler?
mircea_popescu: i dunno what huey long is supposed to be other than a sort of us peron.
mircea_popescu: because in 1985 i had something "in the vein" of the ipad.
mircea_popescu: well done. you know who else ? some guy at the time of the invention of the wheel
mircea_popescu: attempts are no qualification. i attempted to prove fermat's theorem, too
Dimsler: i could probably argue that humanity would be far better off if they hadn't invented the wheel
mircea_popescu: does not mean i had something in the vein of the complex set theory that eventualy did it.
mircea_popescu: which i guess makes me something in the vein of jesus ?
Dimsler: i heard 16hrs after the heart stops beating
mircea_popescu: when we're in prison, if we end up in the same cell, gladly.
Dimsler: DanielKrawisz, are you on here via mobile device?
mircea_popescu: Dimsler seen a lot of mobile devices on times warner cable ?
Dimsler: he could have a router at home, and talking on his ipad
Dimsler: he was capitalizing each fresh sentence
Dimsler: hes just behind his colo now
mircea_popescu: o you gotta be kidding me. videogame developer 2012-2012, "research director" at nowhere, 2014-onwards ?
Dimsler: none of these look like paid anything
Dimsler: I teach bitcoiners about the implications of Bitcoin so as to alter their behavior in a way that improves the overall health of the Bitcoin network.
Dimsler: i thirst for knowledge about how to keep my monies healthy
DanielKrawisz_: Are you just trying to get in an argument with me or something?
mircea_popescu: meh, that thing's like humour. works a lot better if unexpected.
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mircea_popescu: DanielKrawisz_ anyway, get into wot so i can rate you so you can selfvoice
decimation: DanielKrawisz_: I'm kinda serious, how do you make money 'researching bitcoin'? people gotta eat right?
Dimsler: DanielKrawisz_, you have been an academic for 15yrs?
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mircea_popescu: decimation unless he's married, he doesn't actually have to ever work in the us. you know this, right ?
Dimsler: i'm not sure if some of these articles contain the eloquence of someone with a masters in physics
mircea_popescu: "Alternative Right’s Colin Liddell Attacks Andrew Anglin for Defending Robert Ransdell Against RamZPaul 332 comments"
mircea_popescu: holy shit on a stick, 4 people i never heard of ?! and likely nobody has ?
DanielKrawisz_: ;;eregester DanielKrawisz 26AB 6711 E032 5283 DBC0 C8BA 101B BC10 F86C 4A64
gribble: Error: "eregester" is not a valid command.
DanielKrawisz_: ;;eregister DanielKrawisz 26AB 6711 E032 5283 DBC0 C8BA 101B BC10 F86C 4A64
gribble: Error: '26AB' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.
mircea_popescu: "If Kentuckians write-in Robert Ransdell as their choice for Senator in the 2014 election they will support my plan to fix America by pursuing the ..." bla bla bla. write-in candidates for kentucky elections ?! holy shit, it's almost as if... i dunno, my similes fail me. i don't have something for this nonsense.
Dimsler: DanielKrawisz_, can you privately message gribble instead?
mircea_popescu: Robert Ransdell is running for U.S. Senate in Kentucky with the campaign slogan 'With Jews We Lose.'
assbot: Louisville News, Sports, Business | The Courier-Journal
Dimsler: i can't read american publications
assbot: Bagelman bites back at anti-semitic candidate
mircea_popescu: "I wanted to reach out to the community," said Marx, who is Catholic. "We had an over-run of challah for the New Year, and we gave them away." << lmao.
mircea_popescu: such smallness. i had no idea there's so much tiny at hand.
decimation: middle america is routinely mocked by the elites on the coasts
mircea_popescu: apparently it's being mocked by the elites abroad, too.
Duffer1: and by reasonable people the world over
mircea_popescu: but seriously, this derp can't stand for middle anything.
decimation: he's a derp, no doubt, highlighted by the local lefties
mircea_popescu: the most he could stand for would be perhaps a brand of goth from one particular hs. they were doing hitler that year.
Dimsler: you guys see the irony here right?
mircea_popescu: "He's a very bad person," said Heidi Beirich, director of the intelligence project at the Southern Poverty Law Center in Montgomery, Ala., which tracks hate groups. << actually, heidi is the bad person here.
decimation: 'nazi' crap is a particular chumpatron that the dumb stumble into
decimation: might as well label themselves "I am a kulak, crush my shit"
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'DanielKrawisz_', with hostmask 'DanielKrawisz_!~quassel@184.75.223.42', is identified as user 'DanielKrawisz', with GPG key id 101BBC10F86C4A64, key fingerprint 26AB6711E0325283DBC0C8BA101BBC10F86C4A64, and bitcoin address None
decimation: she thinks that her job is to help 'disadvantaged' people but her actual job is to maintain the "no enemies to the left" chumpatron
mircea_popescu: ;;rate DanielKrawisz_ 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate DanielKrawisz_ 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy.
gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.
gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'DanielKrawisz_', with hostmask 'DanielKrawisz_!~quassel@184.75.223.42', is identified as user 'DanielKrawisz', with GPG key id 101BBC10F86C4A64, key fingerprint 26AB6711E0325283DBC0C8BA101BBC10F86C4A64, and bitcoin address None
mircea_popescu: ;;rate DanielKrawisz 1 The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DanielKrawisz has been recorded.
mircea_popescu: DanielKrawisz_ in the future you auth with gribble and pm assbot !up
DanielKrawisz_: I got logged off so now I have an underscore at the end of my name.
Dimsler: but hes also easily amused!
Dimsler: too much flouride in the drinking water
Dimsler: how are you liking argentina?
mircea_popescu: they can;'t afford fluoride so they have to rub wooden sticks together
Dimsler: fuck thats exactly where i belong
DanielKrawisz_: Originally I was going to be a physics professor but there are a lot of things about professional physics academics that are a lot less fun than the physics, so I dropped out.
Dimsler: i gotta pack my shit down there
Dimsler: DanielKrawisz_, so you started studying economics?
mircea_popescu: DanielKrawisz_ originally i was going to be a physicist.
decimation: DanielKrawisz_: the general feeling here is that academia in the us is a bureaucracy that has little to do with actually advancing human knowledge/technology
Dimsler: nothing we were talking about schooling
DanielKrawisz_: Yeah, academics is a leisure activity, and there's kind of a conflict when it becomes professional.
Dimsler: now i spend my days spinning in a chair really
Dimsler: actually i left law school to program algorhythms for automated trading systems
decimation: well, there's certainly a conflict of interest between "researching physics" and "maintaining a career in physics"
mircea_popescu: decimation myeah, actual science is for rich people, not for clerks.
mircea_popescu: people who hope to make their living at science can not be considered scientists. that should be the first crtierion on the peer review process. "independently wealthy ?" if no, can not participate in science.
bounce: with nice hand-blown instruments in brass cases!
mircea_popescu: this seems obvious enough with say, love. people who hope to earn a living at it can't really make very good lovers.
decimation: mainly because they have the 'free time' that asciilifeform desires
mircea_popescu: yet somehow when it leaves that realm everyone's suddenly confused.
decimation: probably the same thing with medicine too
mircea_popescu: with the independent professions it becomes more iffy. doctors and lawyers earned their keep doing the job for centuries without ill effect.
Dimsler: medicine is such nigger work
mircea_popescu: for just as long as they depended for pay on their own customers.
bounce: plenty scientists have done so on sufferance of the local lord, no reason why they couldn't do it on sufferance of the government
mircea_popescu: once they started being paid by corporations / the state, it all went to shit.
Dimsler: i don't know a single non-american doctor who isn't miserable
decimation: as the link I put up yesterday explained, most doctors did more to hurt than heal before 1900, the 'talented amateur' was the local nurse lady who would try to keep you comfortable
bounce: pfft. too early to do the research.
mircea_popescu: bounce then allow me to use this opportunity to expose before your eyes your own automatism.
Dimsler: problem with being a scientifist in todays modern age is you aren't working from home
mircea_popescu: generally the problem is that people ascribe the benefits of santiation to medicine. this is false.
mircea_popescu: actual doctors today are about as hacky/harmful as they were cca 1714.
Duffer1: speaking of dr, that coffee was a big hit, thanks for the suggestion MP
decimation: yeah I would say that's probably true in most cases
decimation: until someone can give an engineering-level account of the human body and all its processes, it's gonna stay that way
Duffer1: nurse gifts, 3lbs of primo coffee per shift
mircea_popescu: decimation you can appreciate the shittyness of it, right ? suppose you were given the task of fixing code you may not read running on a one of a kind processor you don't even have the spec for.
mircea_popescu: and then blamed you for the results, but praised "nature" for the success.
decimation: yeah, it's a delicate microstructure and your tools are basically 'hammer' and 'sledge'
Dimsler: well i mean todays operations are much much cleaner
decimation: asciilifeform: the scanner would have to see down the molecules to determine malignancy in-situ
mircea_popescu: i doubt malignancies are the main problem. i think the main problem of medicine today is still metabolism
mircea_popescu: three thousand years and uncountable changes in everything later.
mircea_popescu: actually... i think us houses are the most combustible things ever in the history of dwellings.
Dimsler: there was firemen pre-concrete?
Dimsler: yeah like the combustable house and obsession with firemen is a north american thing
decimation: well, loads of bureaucrats have been harassing people to spray various dubious fireproofing chemicals on everything
mircea_popescu: problem i nthe usa isn't as much the per se combustibility, more like, all the evil shit sandwiched in there
mircea_popescu: fumes will kill you before the fire even warms you a little
decimation: yeah modern us house is basically sawdust mixed with various kinds of glue
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you know if you first join as d.shawcable.net the entire cloak thing loses its point
bounce: so newton, leibniz, van leeuwenhoek all held convenient government positions. not quite getting paid for science directly, but not quite independently wealthy either
decimation: 'government' was quite a different thing then though
mircea_popescu: just add lavoisier to the list and we can call it a day eh.
decimation: ie they didn't have to worry about food & basic human needs
mircea_popescu: decimation more on point : they could tell the sovereign to get fucked
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mircea_popescu: i would very much like to see current day "scientist" telling obama to get the fuck lost.
bounce: ``Newton moved to London to take up the post of warden of the Royal Mint in 1696, a position that he had obtained through the patronage of Charles Montagu, 1st Earl of Halifax, then Chancellor of the Exchequer.''
mircea_popescu: anyone recall greenspun's retelling of whatever imperial visit ?
Dimsler: but i thought obama was there leader?
decimation: they exist, but there are at least 10 layers of fat bureaucrats between obama and the truth-knowers
mircea_popescu: btw, since he got mentioned : newton ended up the author of the gold standard in the western world.
decimation: "the hlls are tall an the emperor is far away"
assbot: History of the Trial of the Pyx | The Royal Mint
decimation: the clerks in the bank of england thought they could use 'one weird trick' to materialize gold from thin air
BingoBoingo: decimation> the clerks in the bank of england thought they could use 'one weird trick' to materialize gold from thin air << To the extend Geography poses a challenge to verification they could pretend
decimation: one problem being that once the sovereign decides that insolvency is the new solvent it gives leave for everyone else to do so, especially using the king's scrip
pete_dushenski_: mircea_popescu: v. good point about the shaw thing. i'm logging on from a different comp and i don't quite have the flow sorted on this one.
pete_dushenski_: mircea_popescu: is it me or is pete_d on a roll ? << and i think it's just you :D
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17598 @ 0.00074125 = 13.0445 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "whoredom is the new chastity". see, this one works.
mircea_popescu: the key is to stick to the human, rather than the real.
decimation: surely serious men must find it extremely silly to sit around and pretend that nickel coated zinc is worth a shit
Dimsler: its worth what you choose it to be worth
pete_dushenski_: strp: no thanks, thickasthieves. I don't have to justify talking with anyone else I talk with. << classic wilyotp (walk in like you own the place). gotta love the endless supply of such thinking.
decimation: it works for him because he understands physics like a high schooler except 300 years ago
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i propose my objection is better grounded than that.
pete_dushenski_: assbot: Farrakhan claims Ebola invented to kill off blacks | Fox News << i always thought that was aids' job...
mircea_popescu: specifically : when dealing with an item, trying harder is for when things work, and trying something else when things don't work.
mircea_popescu: when dealing with a woman... apparently, the opposite!
assbot: Keeping Bitcoin is a Hard Problem
mircea_popescu: don't go all lyrical & philosophical on people now. you got oyur blogs for that. stick to facts and practice good journalism
decimation: you know what orwell missed was that you didn't really need "Big Brother" to convince everyone that the digits/zinc is worth anything - you just need 'the people' to have a 'stake' in the success of the graft and they will 'big brother' themselves
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "the people" any more than there are "women" or "blacks" or "jews" or "strippers" or "sluts" or "coeds" or so forth
bounce: so why does english have different names for groups of animals and then specify the animal anyway?
mircea_popescu: a sedge o' bitterns ; a sounder o' boar ; a blush o' boys ; a bellowing o' bullfinches ; a draught o' butlers.
Dimsler: because english is an aweful language
Dimsler: its a bastardization of germanic latin and french
bounce: tried to hunt it by myself once, no dice.
mircea_popescu: right. for many years men gathered together, trying with their humble powers to implement as much of a bitcoin-assets as possible.
mircea_popescu: not much was possible throughout much of that history, but the idea still nevertheless recognisably remains.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform conceivably supernovae would be more like a cough than a slurp
mircea_popescu: "her tits aren't really that much bigger, it's the light."
mircea_popescu: why is the boob forever cursed with ambigous multinominity ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know i famously proposed this once ?
mircea_popescu: and proceeded to proclaim that perhaps the best example of society marginalising women known to anthropology is
mircea_popescu: that no natural measurement of length works as the distance between the nipples
mircea_popescu: and yet, if you think of it, there should! they're like natural calipers.
mircea_popescu: took them a good five minutes to figure out the whole thing;s a snipe.
decimation: a bit wobbly as a ruler don't you think?
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mircea_popescu: plus... you know... who wants to put her nipple on random tihngs.
decimation: it would demean women to treat them as objects to measure, rather than measure as objects
mircea_popescu: decimation you know what an inch originally was right ? or a foot
decimation: asciilifeform: I have one of those folding bikes, it is pretty compact (but heavy and ungainly) when folded
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in romanian, vershook, fershtook = fubar.
mircea_popescu: i guess it means "a russian guy measured this, throw it away"
decimation: I suspect rack units acquired their height from the ability to reach into that space with a hand
decimation: yeah, one learns that it's best to wear 'mechanics gloves' while handling sharp metal boxes
decimation: pediwiki: The term relay rack appeared first in the world of telephony.[2] By 1911, the term was also being used in railroad signaling.[3] There is little evidence that the dimensions of these early racks were standardized. The 19-inch rack format with rack-units of 1.75 inches and holes tapped for 12-24 screws with alternating spacings of 1.25 inches and 0.5 inch was an established standard by 1934.[4] The EIA standard was revised
decimation: again in 1992 to comply with the 1988 public law 100-418, setting the standard U as 44.5mm (15.9mm + 15.9mm + 12.7mm), making each "U" officially 1.752 inches.[5] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/19-inch_rack
decimation: apparently it's 1.75 + 2 mil - probably to fit the shelving
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pete_dushenski_: kakobrekla: ever used topre ? << great! nao i kinda want one.
mircea_popescu: psycho fly guy got a pretty sweet setup there. one date only.
mircea_popescu: "don't worry about not being on the pill, honey. i got a yellow contraceptor."
pete_dushenski_: probably less pulsing and more just one looooong squeeeeeeze.
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pete_dushenski_: and turkish toilets are still a thing, last i checked... in tokyo.
pete_dushenski_ wonders what other corners of the world he's explored that mircea_popescu hasn't.
pete_dushenski_: ok, so canada is 1. have you been to other parts of japan?
mircea_popescu: my forays into asia have been limited to crossing the bosphorus.
pete_dushenski_: a ok. so we can add 2. japan, 3. china, 4. hk, 5. vietnam, 6. thailand, 7. s. korea :)
pete_dushenski_: i imagine i don't have any parts of europe to add to that list.
pete_dushenski_: and the famous pyramid-horse pic says you've been to egypt.
mircea_popescu: i've been pretty much everywhere the empire ever went.
pete_dushenski_: in south america i've been to colombia and brazil. also visited most of central america, mexico, and a solid chunk of the caribbean islands.
mircea_popescu: "2. We improve the economy by attacking without mercy the concept of globalism, eliminating all foreign aid to non-White third world nations, all nations controlled by Zionist interests, and first and foremost eliminate all aid to Israel, also end all domestic aid and handouts to non-Whites, and finally disband and dissolve the Jewish-run Federal Reserve and overhaul the American stock market and the way that has worke
mircea_popescu: dude the policy ideas of homebrew candidates are fabulous.
mircea_popescu: "We eliminate the Muslim terror threat by first eliminating all support for Israel and then by additionally deporting all Muslims out of the American nation back to the Arab world."
decimation: well, it would be cheaper for the us to simply ban pakistani immigration rather than try to be omniscient w.r.t. pakistani terrorism and so forth
mircea_popescu: decimation why do you suppose banning immigration does anything ?
decimation: well, I would ban all forms of border crossing
mircea_popescu: you could directly experiment with this idea. you could draw a line in your room, and ban all crossings of that line. see if it does anything for any variable you wish to measure.
mircea_popescu: i imagine at best it'd to nothing perceptible, if you choose the line well.
decimation: this problem largely solved itself in the past when only somebodies could afford to travel
decimation: well, I guess I buy into the idea that a nation and an genetic group are closely related
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mircea_popescu: do you suppose any marriage can be improved by confining the woman ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski_ i like that you give good error reports.
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pete_dushenski_: mircea_popescu: and i also like that you linked "contravex" directly to the troll article rather than the homepage. i take that as a seal o' approval :)
decimation: at any rate I'm sure that these hick canidates will be promoted so that their hatred can become a shared experience for their political enemies
mircea_popescu: guy doesn't seem motivated by anything but the usual driver of reality show attendants.
mircea_popescu: and for that matter, people tend to flatter themselves with that word a lot. an ability to hate is strictly realted to spending time in conditions not available to the average english speaking derp.
decimation: My language was imprecise: I meant that that he would be the object of common hatred
mircea_popescu: i doubt he's all that stable. he doesn't look it in any case.
mircea_popescu: "Mayo noted that Frazier Glenn Miller, who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist groups, ran for the U.S. Senate in Missouri in 2010. He was charged this year in the shooting deaths of a 14-year-old boy and his grandfather outside an Overland Park, Kan., Jewish community center."
mircea_popescu: im sure there's no libtard that ever killed anyone. o.O
decimation: heh when a libtard kills someone it's just because he's crazy, not for any political reason
mircea_popescu: well... there's a lot of merit in that. how else could his alleged "political" oppinions be explained.
decimation: I guess my point is that the media likes to trump up the crazy nazi kkk guy when there were 415 murders in chicago last year
mircea_popescu: if it makes you feel any better, the media does the same here. there were i dunno, like five murders in a 20mn pop town.
decimation: if the average us guy even knows where south america is, he perceives the cities as basically gigantic barrios with constant death
mircea_popescu: they are gigantic barrios, but the only constant is fucking.
decimation: reading the wikipedia I'm surprised to find that argentina is basically 80-90% european
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decimation: I guess I pictured it as basically peopled by Inca
pete_dushenski_: also ozzies are sending 8 super hornets to tackle isis. canada's mighty cf-18s can't be far behind nao.
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mircea_popescu: is this the same iraq the us just got beat out of, and had to lulzily evacuate their baghdad "embassy" ?
mircea_popescu: it's like a retard kid who gets told off by his imagined gf, goes away, turns around and starts over
decimation: I imagine that most countries perceive the us as a 300 pound giant with the brains of a 12 year old boy
decimation: can be really dangerous if you line yourself up in his sights, but really easy to manipulate
mircea_popescu: yeah, something like that. i think they mostly perceive it as a combined fuckhole/shithole/eatery
decimation: there's no doubt that there's a gap between 'strength on paper' and 'actual strength, if actually tested'
decimation: or a 100 lb girl with the right charms
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski_ depends where. not for as long as stays safely behind her keyboard.
decimation: on the other hand, the romans spent centuries trying to conquer the middle east
decimation: why should the powers of today have it any other way
mircea_popescu: the greeks spent two years, and got all the way to indioa
mircea_popescu: i have my doubts whether the romans ever were interested in conquest.
mircea_popescu: they kept trying to smash the persian empire, which they mostly managed, more or less.
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decimation: plus allotting conquered lands to very important bureaucrats and so forth
decimation: sure, being governor over there was a stepping stone to power at times
mircea_popescu: well being a (military) governor, sure. but generally the patricians held land in latium, then in italia, then in galia n, and then finally in spain, thracia, whatever.
decimation: yeah my earlier implication about patricians holding estates in syria etc is wrong
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BingoBoingo: ;;rate cazalla 3 News collaborator, Bunny Rancher
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BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: I'm debating it. Probably not doing the longshot parlay again.
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BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: Just going to be hard making picks since Mizzou has a bye week.
assbot: Projecting the SEC's 2014 conference race using advanced stats - SBNation.com
RagnarDanneskjol: "Let me say that again. The SEC West is the best division in the country and might end up the best division of all time, and Mississippi State might have the best chance of winning it."
BingoBoingo: This year as everything has been parlays not much success. Two weeks ago I had a chance at least. Last week I made a suicide slate and attached a point about phantom mining hardware.
BingoBoingo: Mississippi State is indeed scary this year.
BingoBoingo: I mean last week I put Illinois over Nebraska.
BingoBoingo: Mizzou scares in that after the way the SEC championship game ended last year they still have no defense against the ground game.
RagnarDanneskjol: i forget, were runs getting through the D line or is breakdown in the backfield.. or both
BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: Both. The Runningbacks almost always find a way around the line if they have any speed and in the backfield the people with speed to catch up to them lack the mass to take them down efficiently
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BingoBoingo: I'd still bet on Mizzou over the StL Rams though.
BingoBoingo: Most people I know in the area have similar feeling.
BingoBoingo: The Rams really want a new stadium, but... hard to justify that when no one watches them.
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BingoBoingo: Well, considering the other two pro sports team in town... win...
BingoBoingo: Then there's the problem with it being miserable to watch a winning game there
BingoBoingo: The Rams don't seem to have any people with experience running events working on the fan experience of being at the stadium
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BingoBoingo: RagnarDanneskjol: I'm going to have to give games a thought when I wake up. As much as Purdue sucks though... Illinois just might suck even more.
BingoBoingo: Illinois probably wins it, but I don't think decmal odds of 3.9 for Purdue are a bad value if you want a longshot.
RagnarDanneskjol: cool. I'm always interested to see what data informs your picks
BingoBoingo: Well, I generally look for underdogs priced too generously. As an example there is no spread or odds that would make me think of Picking Kansas over West Fucking Virginia
BingoBoingo: Also as coole as an Ole Miss upset over Bama would be... It's getting talked up so much Bama moneyline might be the better value
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punkman: "Monthly YouTube reviews of each release"
RagnarDanneskjol: "Fundraiser target is 200 BTC" - better get some hot coeds, scantily clad to do those videos
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punkman: "About me: I'm a software developer with 10 years of experience in web. Take a look at my resume" <- and he means 10 years of experience with HTML/CSS, 6 years of ruby
RagnarDanneskjol: X years experience with web (or other non-specific) is clear indicator that experience being described is bs [and prolly lying about other things too].. resume goes straight to trashbin
RagnarDanneskjol: i've actually seen shit like this - 15 years iOS development, etc. sometimes I call them up just to troll
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BingoBoingo: I dunno. Do these waiting tx.nlocktime transactions just sit in the mempool for years now?
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bounce: you habitually read developer CVs?
assbot: Logged on 02-10-2014 00:40:23; RagnarDanneskjol: bounce - what's the prollem with recruiters? I always wonder about these devs who are too rich, famous/in demand to even find out how much more $ another company will pay them to be lazy
bounce: bit of an unfair question there.
bounce: not the smartest way to get a useful answer
RagnarDanneskjol: guess I wasn't really looking for a useful answer. just being provocative I suppose
bounce: I'll leave you at it then
ben_vulpes: RagnarDanneskjol: many devs respond to a few here and there, but the random sample is typically not enough cash, bizarre stacks, crazy mgmt or {google,yahoo,ms} again instead of anything interesting. a few interactions like this and the dev is poisoned against recruiters forever.
bounce: don't forget the completely dysfunctional and often insane "matching", selecting on completely irrelevant criteria, and obvious, screaming lies by the bucketload.
RagnarDanneskjol: ok. this is like having a bad experience with a front desk secretary and holding it against every secretary you ever encounter. Recruiters are just doing the work of sorting and moving candidates through the interview process. How else would you ever get another job? at some point everyone has to deal with a recruiter (or whoever acts as company recruiter/hr generalist) -otherwise st
ben_vulpes: the notion that a person must go through a recruiter to get a job is utter nonsense.
RagnarDanneskjol: I think you misunderstand what a recruiter is (common misconception)
bounce: how else? by getting pulled in by someone, or by bumping into the (technically savvy) owner of the shop, something like that. the key is to talk to someone who knows about the job, not the "specialist" who doesn't know word from writer.
ben_vulpes: if you're growing a dev team and your devs aren't actively bringing in their friends, you're doing it entirely incorrectly.
RagnarDanneskjol: every company over 20 people has a staff recruiter who manages the interview/negotiation process
bounce: IME the staffing agencies that claim to specialise in IT recruiting are possibly worse than generic agencies. claim to know their shit then don't.
ben_vulpes: <RagnarDanneskjol> every company over 20 people has a staff recruiter who manages the interview/negotiation process << false.
RagnarDanneskjol: yea - you are getting staffing agencies confused w/ recruiters
ben_vulpes: in an engineering organization, this is an engineering function for engineering roles.
bounce: somebody who knows about the job.
ben_vulpes: anyone receiving emails on the "get in touch with us" inbox
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RagnarDanneskjol: Oh so the company only hires candidates who happen to find their open position - bad policy
bounce: pfft. instead of some consultancy throwing out the adverts and pouring their "special sauce" over the incoming applications?
bounce: IMO that's a worse policy, since it muddles the input needlessly
RagnarDanneskjol: again - that is a staffing agency - different and I agree they are wasteful
ben_vulpes: for companies with reputations for quality, it's not nearly as guaranteed as you claim.
ben_vulpes: you're also ignoring the "whole team does recruiting" strategy.
RagnarDanneskjol: you understand how it makes sense to have someone dedicated to locating the best talent available is bettter than hoping talent finds you?
bounce refers to the google study on a related subject
ben_vulpes: we identify target hires as a group and then fucking hire them.
ben_vulpes: we also chew through contractors, looking for people to hire.
RagnarDanneskjol: so hiring managers put in a bunch of extra overtime to do recruitment
ben_vulpes: (in support of sales *and* recruitment)
ben_vulpes: tis a part of the job, identifying and bringing on collaborators.
ben_vulpes: maybe someday i'll outsource leadgen, but i've yet to find anyone to trust with the job because they all sound as full of shit as you.
ben_vulpes: finding people who can do sales lead gen is hard enough, how the fuck am i to trust someone whose technical competence i have no notion of to identify people with technical talent?
ben_vulpes: typically the interview is aborted by pitches like yours.
bounce: HR can take care of the paperwork, and "managing" appointments and such. but building the team is up to the manager, not to the recruiter.
ben_vulpes: does the recruiter then interview my team as well?
Azelphur: ben_vulpes: he must be somewhat good at spotting talent, he hired me ;)
Azelphur: I didn't know putting random crap on github was standing out, but ok o.O
ben_vulpes: you're not hard to find is what i'm saying.
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ben_vulpes: what about the first kid he trotted through here?
RagnarDanneskjol: how does a manager locate talent? i still don't understand. it is a full-time job sourcing for any given position.. doing a thourough targeted search. unless the job reqs are fairly loose.
RagnarDanneskjol: some of the jobs I place only have a few dozen qualified ppl on the planet - they take months to locate
ben_vulpes: must be why you want a fancy database of resumes and positions
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RagnarDanneskjol: you lost me ben. not sure its productive to discuss further. I would love to have hiring managers who can do my job for me tho
RagnarDanneskjol: and btw - I found Azelphur in 2012 before I'd ever heard of mpex / b-a. and do consider him a prize catch
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bounce: ``Few people of attainments take easily to a plan of self-improvement. Some discover very early their perfection cannot endure the insult. Others find their intellectual pleasure lies in the theory, not the practice. Only a few stubborn ones will blunder on, painfully, out of the luxuriant world of their pretensions into the desert of mortification and reward.'' -- Voss, Patrick White
bounce: ran into a slightly larger quote somewhere; haven't read more than that
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ben_vulpes: man my conference tickets are looking really cheap all of a sudden
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ben_vulpes: thickasthieves: what's the formal rule?
ben_vulpes: ie whoever locked their ticket in at the highest dollar price
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assbot: Jeremy Clarkson, Master-Level Troll, Trolls Entire Nation Of Argentina
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pete_dushenski: "US Unemployment rate falls to 5.9% as labor force participation drops to 62.7%, a new 36 year low. Record 92.6 million no longer in labor force"
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thickasthieves: why would anyone be interested in Selkis LIVE (or living)?
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: the fucktard isn't a thing. that's why he's on seamonster's show
thickasthieves: yknow i'm ok with qntra being all barebones design, but why on god's green earth is it left-aligned?
thestringpuller: but he has a lot of publicity? why? is he getting paid? is he making money from this publicity?
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: seamonster can't afford ramen noodles. he ain't paying anyone to be on his derpy little show.
pete_dushenski: twobitfucktard is scraping the bottom of the barrel. he's andreas 2.0
assbot: I met (and liked) JR when I met him at the /hashtag/bitlicense?src=hash hearings; he should've taken me up on my offer to look at his drafts. /hashtag/halfbaked?src=hash
pete_dushenski: offering to freely opine on topics he's unqualified to opine on. and being rejected.
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pete_dushenski: he was "cto" at blockchain for a bit. then went on a radio silence week-long vacation while they got megahaxxored.
ben_vulpes: the girl just got the most mysterious robo call
ben_vulpes: "hi! this is sue. sorry to have disturbed you. goodbye!"
punkman: I get some robo calls that are silent then go "Goodbye!" and hangup
thestringpuller: is there a way to be community minded without being a socialist?
punkman: (they "predict" how many calls to send out to get someone to pickup and talk to the agents)
thestringpuller: not trolling or being facetious, but being oriented on the community without giving in mindlessly to the community
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thickasthieves: those are robocalls making lists of who answers at all
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ben_vulpes: new topic! bamboo vs soy for biodiesel production?
ben_vulpes: don't you have to do abhorrent things to their genetics to get them to poop diesel? i'm just talking about rendering the grass/beans into alcohols i think.
pete_dushenski: lol o ryan, asking me: "aside from trolling and a sometimes entertaining blog what value do you add to #bitcoin? (Serious question.)"
punkman: ben_vulpes, you don't need to mess with genetics, just use them as biomass, feed into machine
thickasthieves: what was that jewish title someone said you are pete? some kinda documenter or something
bounce: for biodiesel? fish guts.
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punkman: 'Studies have shown that some species of algae can produce 60% or more of their dry weight in the form of oil"
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pete_dushenski: which, if taken as a recognition of my numeracy rather than my grandparents' ibm tats, is fairly complimentary
thickasthieves: like not a rabbi, but some other word that meant something
thickasthieves: it may have been in reference to how you dissect/explain things mp blogs about
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pete_dushenski: 36131Pierre_Rochard20pete_dushensk 2014-07-23 15:35:31 2 Amoraim of b-a
pete_dushenski: so i sayz to ethel i sayz: "What value do I add to the sun? What makes you think that anyone can "add value" to something that just… exists?" and y'know what she sayz to me? "ok, that's why you're not worth listening to. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever on any level."
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assbot: Jeremy Clarkson 'stoned' as Top Gear crew abandon cars and flee Argentina - Telegraph
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: clarkson "trolled" argentinians about the falklands wars
pete_dushenski: had a license plate on his car that read "H982 FLK" or some such.
pete_dushenski: on bbc. a journalist with a sense of humour who also knows how to work a camera
mthreat: "He added that the numbers 646 on James May's Lotus could be taken as a reference to the 649 Argentinian casualties."
mthreat: they did it in Alabama too. They wrote "Hillary for President", "NASCAR Sucks", and "Man-love rules" on their cars
mthreat: and they supposedly got stoned by alabamans
mthreat: Personally I think it's all staged, just as the Tesla battery dying incident was staged
mthreat: but the show is still great to watch, for entertainment
pete_dushenski: so turns out the size of teh eligible us labour force is ~243 mn as of 2012
mircea_popescu: and total employees is what, 160mn, if excluding govt 72 mn ?
mircea_popescu: make thing infringing on mp's trademark. have mp notice you in google. mp files complaint with fb, yest. page suspended, today.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: "Clarkson, 54, was called before BBC bosses this week after The Mirror newspaper reported he was heard using the word "nigger" as he recited an old version of the rhyme Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe to choose between cars in filming two years ago."
thickasthieves: not in labor force includes retirees, disabled, toddlers?
pete_dushenski: "The furore comes just days after Top Gear producers apologised for a "light-hearted" joke by Clarkson during filming in Myanmar and Thailand, in which he referred to a "slope" on a bridge as an Asian man crossed a makeshift structure built by the presenters."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00074019 = 12.6943 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: dude i don't spend enough time with hicks, trolls and angry ppl.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.11965490 BTC to 15`435 shares, 7254 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: i didn't know "spook" was nigger until i saw that hopkins film, either.
thickasthieves: "It is an acronym for Silly Little Opium Peddling Easterner. "
mircea_popescu: and everyone's so fucking self-important about it, you know ? necessarily you musta known whatever retarded subtext they're familiar with
mircea_popescu: because you definitely care as much as they do!!! because you must, because otherwise are you implying they're fucking idiots ?!?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 0.31049676 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 27 satoshi per share
thickasthieves: probly more fun to make up racist names than learn them anyway
mircea_popescu: it's better cause you don't even need to define them, just feed them off the op's insecurities.
pete_dushenski: "Daughter of Hong Kong leader thanks "taxpayers" for diamonds on Facebook"
pete_dushenski: "The necklace on my profile pic is not a dog collar, silly!!!" she said. "This is actually a beautiful necklace bought at Lane Crawford (yes - funded by all you HK taxpayers!! So are all my beautiful shoes and dresses and clutches!! Thank you so much!!!!)".
pete_dushenski: Chai Yan hit out at those taunting her saying, "Actually maybe I shouldn't say 'all you'- since most of you here are probably unemployed hence all this time obsessed with bombarding me with messages". She later said, "It's ok, your mother still loves you".
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] [PAID] 2.06919702 BTC to 29`438 shares, 7029 satoshi per share
mircea_popescu: Film crew reportedly told officers at the first checkpoint they reached after passing through Tolhuin: "We're leaving the cars, we don't want more problems. Burn them if you want but we're getting out of here."
mircea_popescu: An Argentinian technician hired for the Top Gear shoot is said to have been injured after a stone thrown by one of the demonstrators hit him in the face.
mthreat: here are pics from an Argentine publication:
assbot: La BBC provoca un escndalo por las Islas Malvinas en Argentina | Guerra de Malvinas, Malvinas, Islas Malvinas, BBC, Argentina, Bariloche - Amrica
mthreat: pics of the stoned cars, broken windows
mthreat: that Lotus is classic. I guess they all are but the Lotus is the best ;)
mthreat: there are some broken windows at least
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 878 @ 0.00074016 = 0.6499 BTC [-] {2}
mthreat: dents from rocks may be hard to see in the pics
pete_dushenski: mthreat: ya that lotus is lovely. not that i'd kick the 928 out of bed either, esp. with that plate.
mircea_popescu: mthreat yeah but i mean... that's what dirt racing does anyway
assbot: What is Malco in English? - Porteo Spanish
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51962 @ 0.00074109 = 38.5085 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00074421 = 7.4421 BTC [+]
mthreat: went karting here wednesday, and have the bruises to prove it :)
assbot: posters.lardbucket.org
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mircea_popescu: this eulora game engine thing is the hardest thing i ever fcking did.
mircea_popescu: it'd harder than mpex. this shit where i write the loot functions... god fucking help me i've never seen a more complex problem.
[]bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November"
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TomServo: mircea_popescu: Do tell. I've always wondered how they worked.
bounce: huh. bcoinnews is serving up a sack of html as text/plain. no wonder it doesn't render.
mircea_popescu: this is the reason the game's even worth playing in the first place. the frigging loot functions.
bounce: int winnar() { return 4; } // ze loot
mircea_popescu: eulora is not an eyecandy delivery device like every other mmorpg out there, competing in a saturated market without a bottom.
mircea_popescu: and in point of fact people love nothing more than math. that's the only thing they'll dedicate their lives to.
mircea_popescu: just as long as they don't have to interact with it abstractly, of course.
mats_cd03: slope refers to the forehead, i belieb
mats_cd03: then there's other good stuff, like zipperhead and gook
bounce: you're trying to prove that chinks are like totally math-y?
mats_cd03: zipperhead hailing from 'nam, i think, and as seen in American movies like Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, and Gran Torino
assbot: The Racial Slur Database
mats_cd03: i watched a man get savaged outside of a bar last night by a well dressed man
Dimsler: they should have just had a duel
mats_cd03: i'm told by a reverser i trust that windows 10 is boring from an internal perspective
Dimsler: must make a microsoft account to use
mats_cd03: no major changes to subsystems, no Windows 8 exploits that he had were patched, nor any of his tricks for bypassing SMEP, SMAP, kernel safe unlinking, low integrity processes, leaking memory/pointers, locking memory without SeLockMemoryPrivilege, leaking PFNs for VAs, changing page protections through non-standard APIs, etc
mats_cd03: no fundamental changes to userland libraries, heap implementation in ntdll, bypassuac technique still works,
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00074655 = 16.2001 BTC [+] {2}
Dimsler: maybe he thinks you're a savage in a suit?
mats_cd03: and internal MSFT rumors suggest that the skip from windows 9 to 10 was due to developers parsing os version strings of 'windows 95/98' badly, e.g. testing for just 'windows 9' in the substring
mircea_popescu: hey, i've not killed anyone in at least fifteen years.
Dimsler: can't spell manslaughter without laughter
mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: well, you did use the phrase 'a man being savaged', and well, being a gangster in your youth. plus, the only images i've seen of you are in suits
mircea_popescu: savaged, of course, means this speciffic hunting technique where the preditor opens the abdominal cavity of the prey
mats_cd03: i felt strangely detached from the spectacle of it.
mats_cd03: like, hm, this is happening right now. i'm watching a man die.
mats_cd03: and none of the other clueless chicken heads have any idea what they're seeing.
gribble: Current Blocks: 323667 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 908 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 11 hours, 39 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34013893471.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.86816
bounce: there's at least two recruiters floating around here, ought to be able to make 'emselves useful, no?
assbot: Fat Lady Sings Katy Perry ET!!! - YouTube
Dimsler: does she not have any teeth?
assbot: Gtterdmmerung-Trauermarsch, Richard Wagner, Stockholm Ring, Gregor Bhl conductor - YouTube
[]bot: Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $350 before November"
http://bitbet.us/bet/1034/ Odds: 61(Y):39(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 60.66946193 BTC. Current weight: 17,721.
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 362.83, Best ask: 363.73, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 363.37, 24 hour volume: 15326.10273498, 24 hour low: 360.0, 24 hour high: 378.85, 24 hour vwap: 375.330137741
Dimsler: the bid walls just keep getting taken out
Dimsler: 2600 in coins to sell to $350
mircea_popescu: 61(Y):39(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight << lulziest part
Dimsler: if i had more cash on bitstamp
Dimsler: would just leave a roving order hanging
BingoBoingo: <thickasthieves> yknow i'm ok with qntra being all barebones design, but why on god's green earth is it left-aligned? << As opposed to...
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> at least euro is also worthless << lol keep a stiff upper lip!
mircea_popescu: is this the guy who lied about shil bidding on his own "auction" then being proven to have lied ?
gribble: Error: "getturst" is not a valid command.
kakobrekla: o look, i was the first to negrate him
mircea_popescu: ;;rate garr255 -1 GLBSE scammer, poster child for all the lying & fraudulent behaviour that association would promise.
gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user garr255 has been recorded.
kakobrekla: but but nefario still owes him 100btc!
mircea_popescu: the scammer train : all scammers who stil believe can hide in plain sight can conveniently claim that a well known scammer owes them.
mircea_popescu: this is what goat claimed re pirate, the whole clutch of them re nefario etc.
mircea_popescu: by substracting infinite moneyz from negative value of moneyz.
mircea_popescu: also known as the "full faith and credit of the united states government" scam.
assbot: Chapel Perilous - Along the Way to the Mystery - YouTube
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39500 @ 0.00074416 = 29.3943 BTC [-] {2}
thickasthieves: bingoboingo, centered, cuz most displays are wide these days
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assbot: Video Dumbfounded - Bubba Kush [Music Video].flv - YouTube
assbot: Jessica Williams Continues Her War Against Catcalls on ‘The Daily Show’ - Speakeasy - WSJ
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58550 @ 0.00074149 = 43.4142 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: What? People with giant wide displays maximize windows to read text?
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: Well the design is just to get the thing started. I just don't know of any graceful way to handle the problem of really big monitors.
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: But that leaves big ole empty wings
bounce: forgot whose study it was, but apparently the easiest to read is about 65 cols referencing fixed-pitch.
bounce: you should do popups complaining that the content is optimised for sane widths and please upgrade your browser and/or your resolution
thickasthieves: yes and all browsers should be magical automatic display handlers and websites only databases
BingoBoingo: Well actually yes browsers should handle the display rather than the site.
bounce: that was the idea, originally. then web"design" happened.
BingoBoingo: Websites shouldn't default to violently raping user hardware
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: No, people get to dress up the websites however the wish
bounce: that is the current assumption: hipster with tablet
BingoBoingo: Plenty of ways to do custom CSS with pink and kittens and myspace
bounce: in fact, it rarely happens but could provide multiple layouts for the onlooker to choose
thickasthieves: i understand that a spec for website data would be convenient and provide ease and cleanliness from one perspective
bounce: this about that giant screenshot with two panes on either side and lots of nothing inbetween?
thickasthieves: all computers should use the same hw spec and everyone should program in the same language and use the same db sesign too
bounce: meh. most often all sorts of unwarranted assumptions creep in; web"design" does tent to focus on one thing and massively over-engineers with gratuitous js-reinvention of basic stuff to make it look "nicer"
BingoBoingo: I don't think the current super mininum style is going to be a permanent feature on qntra, but... page load times are a thing. Got to plan for people accessing the internet using dialup through a payphone.
punkman remembers the derps trying to do webfonts before we had webfonts
bounce: in this case it might be more useful to not stick one pane on the right and another on the left hand side, but position them relative to each other instead
bounce: or let the browser put them next or below each other, depending on actual window width.
thickasthieves: the problem is you cant get browsers to fall in line to that kinda thing
bounce: you'd have to release the notion of getting an identical picture everywhere. you're not serving up "an experience" or "a picture" or whatever, you're serving up content.
bounce: though I'd be perfectly willing to ignore any and all redmond products regardless of reported usage percentages, they just don't play well with others
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BingoBoingo: Seems so. Buterin's waterfall keeps a churning
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00074212 = 8.5344 BTC [+]
assbot: Pharmaceutical Giant GlaxoSmithKline “Accidentally” Released 45 Liters of Concentrated Live Polio Virus in the Environment | Global Research
jurov: they were trying to eradicate these "various orthodox protestant communities"
william1: Well at least their hearts were in the right place
assbot: Click and Dragger: Denial and Deception on Android mobile
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 297 @ 0.006 = 1.782 BTC [-] {4}
mats_cd03: his presentations on opsec are always excellent
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00074212 = 16.9203 BTC [+]
mats_cd03: an excellent presentation on why blackphone et. al is stupid.
assbot: Windows 10 command prompt finally gets dragged into the 21st century | Ars Technica
william1: Wasn't it torn apart within 15 minutes of it being revealed?
BingoBoingo: jurov: Wait, WindowsX has a clicky graphical dialogue for... Setting command line properties?
bounce: fanbois will be fanbois. people fawning over powershell like it's the bestest thing evar and not, oh, twenty years late to the party? bit of a giveaway.
jurov: and transparent background!!1
william1: The US gov is generally fucked, no new information there
assbot: Killing Americans on the White House Lawn Is Wrong - The Intercept
cazalla: thickasthieves: yknow i'm ok with qntra being all barebones design, but why on god's green earth is it left-aligned? <<< just turn your head a little to the left, fixed
cazalla: i guess it's something to keep in mind when/if it comes time to redesign the site but for time being, i think it's acceptable
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14050 @ 0.00074212 = 10.4268 BTC [+]
assbot: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
assbot: Russia Proposes Monetary Penalties for Bitcoin Use and Promotion
kakobrekla: angel whale sleeps with the fishes now
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00074103 = 8.6701 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: <bounce> forgot whose study it was, but apparently the easiest to read is about 65 cols referencing fixed-pitch. << bunch of military studies over the years, 60 to 80 in anyu case.
mircea_popescu: *: punkman remembers the derps trying to do webfonts before we had webfonts <<< now that was a riot
mircea_popescu: "It is NOT impossible to have such an enormous (gigantic) ginormous rise in prices - eg from $300 to $10k; however, the lower that BTC prices go, the more difficult it becomes to imagine such an upward BTC price explosion.... .. such as 30x..."
mircea_popescu: jurov you will notice that a) all this was injected into the conversation via bitbet and b) fucktards, srsly.
mircea_popescu: it's exactl;y backwards, the smaller the base, the easier high percentiles are.
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mircea_popescu: Abuses under Obiang have included "unlawful killings by security forces; government-sanctioned kidnappings; systematic torture of prisoners and detainees by security forces; life threatening conditions in prisons and detention facilities; impunity; arbitrary arrest, detention, and incommunicado detention."
danielpbarron: seems to be a very large number of transactions happening at the moment, from my full node's point of view
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15395 @ 0.00074305 = 11.4393 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 587 @ 0.00226393 = 1.3289 BTC [+] {8}
gribble: Current Blocks: 323707 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 868 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 19 hours, 48 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 34120792594.7 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.55976
gribble: Error: "rewardhalf" is not a valid command.
gribble: Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Tue Aug 2 16:43:16 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 1 year, 43 weeks, 2 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds.
mod6: been a long time since i looked at that. saw we're under 100k blocks to go