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a111: Logged on 2016-09-24 14:22 shinohai: Hopefully not a workbench weight like the pogo.
shinohai: Hopefully not a workbench weight like the pogo. ☟︎
asciilifeform: there are 3 makers of gbE nics you can buy as cards (vs mobo southbridge integrated, or SOC a la pogo)
asciilifeform: marvell makes the pogo system-on-chip
shinohai: I back bc up to pogo then restart it
asciilifeform: but it wouldn't pogo - not without writing the nand flash driver from ~scratch.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: is there a write up of the pogo yet?
asciilifeform: or were you thinking of building ~on~ pogo
mats: asciilifeform: this looks like its for pogo's os, i'm looking for instructions re: a deterministic build process for armv5 you refer to on the ml
shinohai: mats: Didja get pogo running?
a111: Logged on 2016-07-04 22:12 mats: is there an up to date guide to rolling trb on pogo's little-endian armv5?
mats: is there an up to date guide to rolling trb on pogo's little-endian armv5? ☟︎
asciilifeform: we sorta went over this in the pogo threads.
shinohai: I'm using my unused pogo as datastore for it xD
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-18#1484457 <<< do you have pogo or spare hdd to rsync chain to ? ☝︎
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: why couldn't you have figured this out before last christmas ? first it's the amazing pogo, then the amazing eizo... AND NOW IT'S NEITHER
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 12:09 mircea_popescu: (weirdly enough, how is it that the "bounty" experience has failed to inform your opinoin of bounties, much like the "new pogo" has failed to inform your opinion of "oh noes end of pogos" ?)
mircea_popescu: (weirdly enough, how is it that the "bounty" experience has failed to inform your opinoin of bounties, much like the "new pogo" has failed to inform your opinion of "oh noes end of pogos" ?) ☟︎
asciilifeform: the one pogo item missing is the sd slot - which imho was ~useless.
asciilifeform: unlike pogo with hdd in its strange angular cradle, these things will handily fit in that colo rack BingoBoingo had subscribed to, where they give you five inch pedestals.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: thing can be, apparently, booted from tftp, pogo-style.
asciilifeform: kernel mounts its root partition (or tries to, mine no longer does!) - also like pogo. or your pc.
asciilifeform: like pogo.
asciilifeform: precisely like pogo did.
asciilifeform: anyway it isn't a wunderwaffen, just a $50 really-nice-pogo.
asciilifeform: (like every other known device that does >= pogo)
asciilifeform: thing is only a replacement for pogo in that it does >= what pogo did and 'only' costs 2.5x moar
a111: Logged on 2016-06-01 20:31 asciilifeform: http://www.frostyplace.com/index.php?story_id=11202 << i may have found a replacement for pogo.
asciilifeform: quite likely that, like pogo, these can be had cheaper in some qty.
asciilifeform: not earth-shaking - before we can run on this, we pretty much have to also run on pogo
asciilifeform: it is same sort of box as pogo
asciilifeform: aha, like pogo
asciilifeform: ALSO unlike pogo, it comes with all four types of mains plug
asciilifeform: (unlike pogo)
asciilifeform: Framedragger: pogo is a small linuxable computer, now out of print
asciilifeform: mod6: unlike pogo, thing is a HEAVY metal brick, with the drive on inside
asciilifeform: http://www.frostyplace.com/index.php?story_id=11202 << i may have found a replacement for pogo. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: sure, an argument could be brought that "hey, even blocking /random is faster than dice". maybe. then consider machines that do not have a rng at all, such as pogo. maybe they want pws too. etc.
danielpbarron: I can sorta-run a gentoo on a pogo by chrooting from another linux
shinohai: btw danielpbarron didn't you have some info stashed away somewhere on building a gentoo on pogo instead of arch?
PeterL: how much power does pogo take?
mircea_popescu: actually speaking of dc motors, i wonder if you could get a hamster to wheel-power a pogo.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a correct way to 'de-chink' the pogo power source might be, e.g., to connect them all - in parallel - to old soviet car battery charger.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-03-2016#1435837 << student exercise - prove that the 10 (usa) or 20 (eu) pogo garland will necessarily explode if they all enter cpu halt mode. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <davout> danielpbarron: i may have an old ipnohe lying around if you ever feel like upgrading your blawg's hosting << I suggested "edgerouter lite" more OSen available than pogo to pick from
asciilifeform pictures jacob's ladder in series with pogo rack
mircea_popescu: get a customizable power bridge, link pogo, see how much it'll take before it falls over.
danielpbarron: recall i already did the soldering thing to make adulterated pogo
asciilifeform: e.g., reattache the missing sata plugs to the cheapo pogo version
danielpbarron: using an sd card for the userland, and in two cases both had the filesystem corrupted, which is why I had to try it on my sata-style pogo
danielpbarron: actually the irc one is the lesser non-sata pogo
danielpbarron: yeah i got another pogo doing my irc client; it was also doing my old non-wp website
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron you know, it occurs to me your idea to run a webserver on pogo may actually be very valuable.
danielpbarron: i think if i enable caching the pogo might survive all those hits at once better
danielpbarron: is it possible to do gentoo on pogo?
danielpbarron: just so happens i had arch on pogo already set up, so it was the easiest to get blog going on
asciilifeform: pogo is spiffy
danielpbarron: if i'm gonna move off a pogo i'll use gentoo on whatever the replacement is
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: what os on the pogo?
danielpbarron: pogo really shouldn't be used for this purpose :< ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 23:05:37; BingoBoingo: I suspect it will have to graduate from a pogo to an "edgerouter lite" sometime in the next few months.
mircea_popescu: btw danielpbarron here's a nice idea for article : step by step guide to run your own wp on pogo.
BingoBoingo: I suspect it will have to graduate from a pogo to an "edgerouter lite" sometime in the next few months. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Not every computer is a pogo yet
adlai: let's just say that this is not exploitable on a pogo
davout: pogo's still high on my personal what-do-if-spare-cycles list
trinque: if one had invested significantly in the infrastructure for an exchange, it stands to reason that he'd not use this to hold his own funds, and instead would keep it on a usb stick plugged into his fucking pogo
asciilifeform: the sad part is that i fixed pretty much all of the cthonic hell-pits that prevented pogo,
asciilifeform: at any rate, i have long seen nodes as an astonishingly weak point, which is why i pressed the whole pogo thing
mircea_popescu: that's a large pogo rigt there.
assbot: Logged on 07-03-2016 15:40:39; shinohai: I still have faith that one day my pogo will sing.
shinohai: I still have faith that one day my pogo will sing. ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Also exciting to se pogo dream may be resurrected.
BingoBoingo: But pogo-speed swap...
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: are you sure you have enough RAM on pogo to serve wordpress?
phf: http://www.toysrus.com/graphics/tru_prod_images/Fisher-Price-Grow-to-Pro-Pogo-Stick--pTRU1-2909797dt.jpg
thestringpuller: everytime I see pogo reference I think of butt plug
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Precise monster zinc carbon went into is "everready dolphin" which walmart had on clearance, for same price as blue pogo which has moved still further down.
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404757 <<< /me experimented with -connecting to my blockchain stored on the pogo, haven't got it ironed out yet. ☝︎
pete_d_out: on the topic of the lordship list, can someone please tell me what 'fief' mats is fighting for ? pogo distribution ? pgp server thing he started then quit ? other things ? i'm genuinely curious. he doesn't contribute ~that~ much to the debates here that i can see, though he's certainly not invisible, but most of what i glean from his commentary is along the lines of "windows isn't so bad u guise", which, i guess, is what it is. anyways,
shinohai: I keep backup copy of blockchain on pogo now, I have it syncing from real node every 12 hours.
mod6: does anyone else think that this is *not* a decent consideration at least? even taking into consideration the issues we ran into with pogo?
asciilifeform: mod6: this was my original objective with pogo
mircea_popescu: mod6 this i called the "pogo" approach to it.
mircea_popescu: so then the model here is to have fundamentally speaking a pogo/arm-ish level bitcoind/os, that doesn't really natively build on anything without a laundry list of finicking ?
shinohai: and ~ 90% complete to pogo backup of blockchain
asciilifeform: (no discussion of how and why we ended up with static build, omitting the whole pogo thing, astonishingly foggy description of what orphans/bastards were and WHY they had to go, i could go on, and on)
mircea_popescu: technically that's not even on pogo
shinohai: on pogo, the hdd is the only thing that ever seems to get hot.
mircea_popescu: maybe link him to the whole pogo thing ?
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 01:48:18; *: adlai will have to implement his own, so it runs on his 'pogo'
asciilifeform: the classical pogo (with sata) is now a full $10 more.
asciilifeform: the amazon link earlier is a POGO-V4-A4-01.
asciilifeform: the pogos i bought for conf-3 were POGO-V4-A3-01
mircea_popescu: mats> pogo is mega expensive now, just about one year following project inception << fortunately we have a bunch stashed.
assbot: Amazon.com: Pogoplug Office Secure Private Cloud Solution with 5 User Licenses (POGO-V4-A4-01): Computers & Accessories ... ( http://bit.ly/1RvtP8w )
asciilifeform: mats: http://www.amazon.com/Pogoplug-Private-Solution-Licenses-POGO-V4-A4-01/dp/B00776V3DI << $2 more
mats: pogo is mega expensive now, just about one year following project inception
mircea_popescu: sciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1365773 << pogo is a 32-bit arm-v << yeah that's the why. but it ran on a desktop. ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1365805 << incidentally, i surveyed all known routers on the market. all have severe ram constraint (very few better than pogo, costliest have perhaps 512m) and no sata, ever ☝︎