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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430662 << he's like an impenetrable wall. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 20:34:41; asciilifeform: jurov: the beast is not bleeding. it moved coin from its left pocket to right.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430671 << let me generally say that you're about in the position of afghan boy who grew up in village of men and goats opining about cunts. your ideas about "the usg", while no doubt meaningful and coherent in your own perspective, are pure metaphysics. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 20:37:55; asciilifeform: fiat isn't btc, nobody walks away with irretrievable 100m.
asciilifeform: so show me the light, mircea_popescu : swift is a reversible fiat thing. no?
mircea_popescu: i'm thoroughly exhausted all patience trying to engage the thing, so let's just let you live in your own world and mark once and forever that i lend it exactly the aforementioned credence.
asciilifeform: and so if it turns out that 100m moved from a to b, and b stole, can just as easily return to a by hitlerian decree ?
mircea_popescu: i'm not engaging that particular insanity any further.
asciilifeform: 'you are wrong and your picture of universe is retarded but i won't say why' ?
asciilifeform: mega-argument.
mircea_popescu: "you are lacan. your picture of the universe is complete and unrelated to any extant universe. have fun with it."
mircea_popescu: and note that this is no argument ; this is a judgement.
asciilifeform: so the reversibility of swift and it having master control panel is not a fact of the universe we live in ?
mircea_popescu: arguments are neither possible nor interesting.
asciilifeform would liek to visit mircea_popescu's world but it doesn't sell tickets afaik.
mircea_popescu: well, like is like, can is can.
asciilifeform: ..?
mircea_popescu: the path to mp world starts by now fucking having an opinion about how swift works when you've sent a grand total of... 0 ? 10 ? what is it ?
mircea_popescu: and no, "ach" bs is not swift.
asciilifeform: i will readily admit that i have not one iota of a clue re: how it works, other than it being not-bitcoin.
asciilifeform: and thereby subject to retconning if 'international komyooonity' wills it
mircea_popescu: so you're engaging in intricate description of an item you've never seen. you need explanation of why this is psychotic ?
asciilifeform: not intricate, but particular hypothesis
mircea_popescu: hypothesis ?
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asciilifeform: i.e. that if zimbabwe gets a swift of x, and usg decides that this ought not have happened, it can be reversed.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu will tell me that this is not so ?
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, the name for what you put out is not "hypothesis", it's justification.
asciilifeform: well is it true ?
mircea_popescu: there is no possibility of truth in your system.
mircea_popescu: it can not be true or false. as long as it's what you need to believe, it'll be there.
asciilifeform: is it because i cannot access the priors ?
mircea_popescu: because you aren't in control of the cognitive process that involves it.
asciilifeform: actually i am ready to believe that it is - or is not - true, if it could be anchored to actual priors that i have.
mircea_popescu: mno. you are ready to either accept it as a valid justification, or else accept it as a justification that needs futher justification.
asciilifeform: of what ?
mircea_popescu: of nothing.
mircea_popescu: justification, it's a psych term of art.
asciilifeform: but justification is ~of~ something, no ?
mircea_popescu: not exactly.
mircea_popescu: justification is the verbiage produced in response to inquiry.
asciilifeform: e.g., of krishna existing, or whatnot
mircea_popescu: "why did you steal ?" "i had to i didnt really steal it wasn't me"|
asciilifeform: so then it is of being caught with the goods, no ?
mircea_popescu: "but you did take the thing and put it up your ass" "yes but no it wasn't a thing not my ass not me"
asciilifeform: the thief's justification is ~of~ something
mircea_popescu: mno.
mircea_popescu: it's the response to the question ; it only exists with the question, dies with the last echo of the question. it has no factual basis.
asciilifeform: and if i ask a fella what he had for dinner, his reponse also dies with the question, no ?
mircea_popescu: mno. the policeman looks at the item, and asks question. the psychotic thief looks AT THE POLICEMAN and "answers" question.
mircea_popescu: there's no meeting there, one's lost in his own mind.
asciilifeform: but i think i know what mircea_popescu was trying to explain to me, that my notion of how swift works is static in disconnected antenna plug ?
mircea_popescu: your "notion of how swift works" has absolutely nothing to do with swift, working or notions, and everything to do with you justifying your own theft which happened to touch of swift so now yhou have a "hypothesis" about that.
mircea_popescu: had it touched elephants, you'd have a justification about elephant anatomy, just as well.
asciilifeform: which theft ?
mircea_popescu: that is not a question i can actually answer, i don't know you well enough
asciilifeform: i mean, pretty much my whole existence is a theft
mircea_popescu: besides this should be 1/4btc per hour and i should have a sofa./
asciilifeform: l0l
asciilifeform: cheap!
mircea_popescu: all my life i've been shockingly cheap.
asciilifeform: i would buy, at this rate !
mircea_popescu: if i ever move to portland and open a shrink practice ima send you a flyer.
asciilifeform: please be sure to install a suitable sofa !
mircea_popescu: but the wonder is that you manage to maintain this weird somehow encapsulated while writing code. one would find the notion improbable, on the face, but then again i've read said code.
mircea_popescu: hopefully the barrier lasts.
asciilifeform: why is this a wonder
asciilifeform: i dun get it
mircea_popescu: clinical experience.
mircea_popescu: i get it, "for me it's always been this way".
asciilifeform: what would the code look like if this were not so ?
mircea_popescu: uhh
asciilifeform: i get what mircea_popescu is saying, 'the man is a lunatic but somehow capable of engineering sanely'
mircea_popescu: this is actually a great question.
mircea_popescu: nah, lunacy is not this.
asciilifeform: but i would like to see why mircea_popescu considers the code - sane, and my picture of the rest - not.
asciilifeform: i could, for instance, be readily persuaded that ~all~ of my works are of insanity.
mircea_popescu: but anyway - i suppose the first symtpom of the barrier giving way is when you start including specific amulet comments
asciilifeform: wtf is an amulet comment
mircea_popescu: what's your definition of an amulet ?
asciilifeform: a device of sympathetic magic ?
mircea_popescu: basically. spurious item of presumed physical effectiveness predicated on the basis of metaphysical considerations.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: so a comment containing a prayer to vishnu, say ?
mircea_popescu: yo9u know, like #this code copyright
mircea_popescu: for instance.
asciilifeform: this is amulet, but mircea_popescu's anarchist license, is not ?
asciilifeform: as i see it, both are essentially decorative
mircea_popescu: yes, they are. for as long as they're decorative, it's one thing.
asciilifeform: having more or less same status as, e.g., #8=======>
mircea_popescu: once they become necessary and "necessarily effectual", it gets iffy
mircea_popescu: in any case - lunacy is not here contemplated. lunacy is actually in practice a very high bar of achievement. you're just weird, which is boringly common, especially in accomplished folks.
asciilifeform: i can only aspire to the high bar.
mircea_popescu: (technically speaking, the mp license is actually an anti-amulet, in the sense that it makes life impossible for a certain sort of lunatic. inasmuch as its effectiveness is not predicated on metaphysical but on quite physical considerations, it's just a virus.)
asciilifeform: but is this property not itself amuletronic ?
asciilifeform: it cannot all by itself 'make life impossible' for anyone.
mircea_popescu: no, but we do know how idiots think.
asciilifeform: and the old amulet was also calibrated for a certain kind of idiot
asciilifeform: whose thought processes were reasonably well known
mircea_popescu: mind, selling amulets is a trade like any other trade. wearing them is what was being discussed.
asciilifeform: anyway i don't do amulets, much as mircea_popescu is convinced of this. i ~might~ entertain laughably inaccurate hypothesis about whatevers, when i have no access (unlike to the inside of a computer) to the priors.
mircea_popescu: that's not the proper approach there. consider that you'd "entertain laughably innacurate hypothesis" about a) things that really make no difference to you ; b) with which you have absolutely no experience and c) that have exactly nothing in common with a hypothesis and everything in common with an article of faith.
asciilifeform: who is to say what makes a difference to me.
mircea_popescu: you could trivially test this swift hypothesis of yours you know - wire a grand to the next nigerian to visit your inbox then write to your bank to reverse it.
asciilifeform: ~i~ don't get to reverse it !
asciilifeform: never said this.
mircea_popescu: oh i see.
asciilifeform: the system's owner gets to.
asciilifeform: which is neither me nor the other schmuck.
mircea_popescu: is he the elite ?
asciilifeform: whoever he answers to, is sorta definitionally elite, no?
mircea_popescu: ex post facto.
mircea_popescu: it's a trope of fiction, all this.
mircea_popescu: which whatever, everyone needs a hobby.
asciilifeform: care to possibly give a brief picture of the reality ?
asciilifeform: or what, 'your puny brain cannot digest it ' ?
mircea_popescu: the reality of what ?
asciilifeform: of swift.
mircea_popescu: why not read the documentation ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's remarkably open and well documented for a fiat banking thing.
asciilifeform: why not read nsa.gov to learn which hdd firmwares are buggered ?
mircea_popescu: it's a protocol you know.
asciilifeform: or what, swift operators swore to vishnu to tell the truth and only the complete truth ?
asciilifeform: but yes, i will actually go and read.
mircea_popescu: so there's a meta-documentation that's secret and a faux documentation that's published ?
asciilifeform bbl.
mircea_popescu: same could be said about fucking css.
mircea_popescu: (actually, amusingly enough, swift docs date from just about the era ada was fashionable. there was such a time - just like that time in the 90s when everyone was eager to implement linux-y things and you didn't really have to sell it at all, whole cities just switched for no reason) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430725 << epic line. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 21:10:58; assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 05:06:06; trinque: I demand for this to never have happened at once!
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mircea_popescu: jesus, this sls thing is pretty big huh.
mod6: wassat?
mircea_popescu: some soap ingredient.
mod6: ah
mircea_popescu: apparently the etsy chicks are getting militant.
mod6: heh
mircea_popescu: i suppose in another decade there won't be a way to buy soap.
mod6: have to make our own.
mod6: al la fight club.
mircea_popescu: it's this fashion thing, i guess every third unemployed/able chick is making artisanal soap these days.
mircea_popescu: in a sense i can see it, must be satisfying to actually MAKE something in postsociety.
mircea_popescu: but you really have to be retarded to imagine a ploy to claim industrial production is bad isn't obviously transparent and deeply ineffectual.
mircea_popescu: https://www.quora.com/Who-will-win-the-Bitcoin-blocksize-war << nothing quite like 15 month old derpage.
assbot: Who will win the Bitcoin blocksize war? - Quora ... ( http://bit.ly/1pCzfTk )
mod6: heheh
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asciilifeform is in b0rked car waiting for crane
mircea_popescu: o.o what happened ? crash ?
asciilifeform: nah
mod6: asciilifeform: did you say you were using gnat to link ada object flies?
asciilifeform: mega-orc problem - iron rebar hook in parking lot of shady restaurant, gutted bumper ~on way out~
asciilifeform: like fish.
asciilifeform: srsly the sheet zimbabwe
mircea_popescu: nuts.
asciilifeform: *sheer
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mircea_popescu: i don't get it, who has spare rebar hooks ? what ?
asciilifeform: crumbling concrete
mircea_popescu: o brother.
mircea_popescu: are you suing ? :D
asciilifeform: l0l!
mircea_popescu: maybe enjoy some um bongo in the interim ?
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYj5o4kQsXs
assbot: Um Bongo Orginal Advert - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1pCzCgE )
asciilifeform tunes in
mircea_popescu: in other rebar hooks and crumbling concrete news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp3f4xtbeZ1qc5bcno1_1280.jpg
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/21nucly )
mircea_popescu looks at qntra article, sees chorus of derps going "pay fee!!1". i'm so glad bitcoin evanghelism dragged in the webizens srsly.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "sfly & piot" is a pretty good find!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo "sfly & piot" is a pretty good find! << which is this?
BingoBoingo: Aha
BingoBoingo gets it nao
danielpbarron: !up granny
BingoBoingo: !up granny
granny: The bet here bitbet.us/bet/1248/ethereum-to-top-1-billion-market-cap-before/ is resolved, as Ethereum just surpassed billion market cap.
granny: Thank you
mircea_popescu: link says ~800mn
mircea_popescu: not that it's not ridoinculous anyway.
mircea_popescu: ponzi ahoy, should be funny to see what next week brings. 1 trn ? 1 bjln ?
granny: Hi, the link to coincap.io shows over a billion right now
mircea_popescu: i just looked ?
granny: 800 million is from the graph which is wrong
granny: look at the market cap
granny: just below the price
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mircea_popescu: there's a graph, it doesn't touch 1bn. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose the site's totally borked, huh.
granny: hmm, yes, that graph is totally wrong
mircea_popescu: either totally wrong or totally right or w/e. i guess mods will see to it.
mircea_popescu: if derpy site is going to print numbers, might as well print the same ones. one'd think.
granny: Well, it's over a billion at coinmarketcap, so I know the number's I'd trust there.
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asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu have some lulz, http://dpaste.com/02F0596.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1U7JwU2 )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525 << deep gold mine of obamitler lulz
assbot: President Obama’s Interview With Jeffrey Goldberg on Syria and Foreign Policy - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1U7JRX1 ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: e.g., '“isis is not an existential threat to the United States,” he told me in one of these conversations. “Climate change is a potential existential threat to the entire world if we don’t do something about it.” '
asciilifeform: or, almost worthy of the prb folks,
asciilifeform: '“The truth is, actually, Putin, in all of our meetings, is scrupulously polite, very frank. Our meetings are very businesslike. He never keeps me waiting two hours like he does a bunch of these other folks.” Obama said that Putin believes his relationship with the U.S. is more important than Americans tend to think. “He’s constantly interested in being seen as our peer and as working with us, because he’s not comple
asciilifeform: tely stupid. He understands that Russia’s overall position in the world is significantly diminished. And the fact that he invades Crimea or is trying to prop up Assad doesn’t suddenly make him a player. You don’t see him in any of these meetings out here helping to shape the agenda. For that matter, there’s not a G20 meeting where the Russians set the agenda around any of the issues that are important.”'
asciilifeform: can't help but love the 'you don't see him in any of these meetings' thing
asciilifeform: like the various ethederpium meetings 'you' didn't see mircea_popescu at, etc.
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funkenstein_: evening gentlemen
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430662 <-- TXID or it didn't happen ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 20:34:41; asciilifeform: jurov: the beast is not bleeding. it moved coin from its left pocket to right.
funkenstein_: what beast? I recommend "operators manual for spaceship earth" B.Fuller for details on how there's no beast here
funkenstein_: anyway i log in to share a little toy i've been working on: http://block-roulette.com
assbot: Bitcoin Block Roulette ... ( http://bit.ly/22atURf )
funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430437 <-- minor typo here, you meant "unhappy adolescents want to own women" ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 11-03-2016 13:41:29; mircea_popescu: depends to. the problem here is that high value males are interested in owning females, not interested in producing litter. consequently, western world has fertility crisis.
funkenstein_: up next: "ethereum could own russia" ?
ben_vulpes: funkenstein_: spacity.website does not
funkenstein_: eh?
ben_vulpes: the link at the bottom of the website
ben_vulpes: nifty roulette wheel
funkenstein_: ah thanks
danielpbarron: funkenstein_, what do you prefer with regard to owning women?
funkenstein_: danielpbarron, girlfriends are way more fun than cattle ☟︎
danielpbarron: and you know this having tried both?
funkenstein_: right
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ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#2685 << i lol every time
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1Li1ZuJ )
deedbot-: [Qntra] Bharara And Goons Move Artifacts From Unsanctioned To Sanctioned Looters - http://qntra.net/2016/03/bharara-and-goons-move-artifacts-from-unsanctioned-to-sanctioned-looters/
ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/util.h#0645 << what i ask you the fuck is this
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1QLDvc3 )
funkenstein_: hmm.. only called from within the miner
funkenstein_: snip snip!
ben_vulpes: burn it with fire
ben_vulpes: https://git.thwg.org/wozz/bitcoin/commit/460b66b14b80a55279d837c91aff1f1c3ca60d7f << something that looks originalish
assbot: Remove obsolete Win32 AffinityBugWorkaround() (460b66b1) · Commits · wozz / Bitcoin · GitLab ... ( http://bit.ly/1QLDRiU )
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punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqZBVTMrgFA
assbot: Toyota - A Sirious safety message - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1pCOWtH )
punkman: heh http://article.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.steel-bank.devel/19495
assbot: Gmane -- Call for support for lisp in the WebAssembly development. ... ( http://bit.ly/1pCPgsu )
ben_vulpes: punkman: utterly hilarious
ben_vulpes: also, fuck cars.
fluffypony: punkman: that doesn't work anymore, with iOS 9 it does reasonable voice recognition
fluffypony: I can trigger it on my wife's phone, but I have to put on an accent :-P
punkman: interesting http://lexborisov.github.io/myhtml/ ☟︎
assbot: MyHTML — HTML Parser on Pure C with POSIX Threads Support by Alexander Borisov ... ( http://bit.ly/1LY5nLd )
punkman: "Next in turn are the CSS parser and Renderer. I'm writing them all by myself, still full of energy. " ☟︎
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nubbins` checks for s.bbet feb statement
nubbins`: nothing yet
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your lulz deposit has been received and credited to your account.
mircea_popescu: you can now spend this lulz in any of the affiliated lulzshops ☟︎
nubbins`: ;;seen decimation
gribble: decimation was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 31 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, 7 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <decimation> I enjoyed my time here, learned much, had many lolz. I do not wish to cause drama or be an impediment to improving bitcoin. Even though I presently have L2 rating from a few people, I am not going impose on their good grace by remaining. God bless all of you.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2016#1431071 << guy's a complete imbecile. reading obama is more or less like reading reddit, i dunno who could possibly be arsed. ☝︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2016 05:09:02; assbot: President Obama’s Interview With Jeffrey Goldberg on Syria and Foreign Policy - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1U7JRX1 )
mircea_popescu: not even the secret services of the various powers can be bothered anymore. ~nobody cares what obama says in any sense.
mircea_popescu: (for a reasonably well documented case of this, see the various middle eastern deals that didn't include the derp)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2016#1431086 << that's not how things work, "oh, minor typo in the torah, it meant dwarves are the chosen people". ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2016 05:44:23; funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-03-2016#1430437 <-- minor typo here, you meant "unhappy adolescents want to own women"
mircea_popescu: nice font o.O. who's scws. where's the provably fair link ? why would i play roulette, i don't want to give you 5% or w/e the fuck the edge was. 1% is generous, this is not 1750.
mircea_popescu: really, dice type sites (and no, pure chance is nothing but dice, no matter how you package it) should be happy with 0.1% or less. bitbet WORKS for that 1%.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2016#1431095 << a) who the fuck do you imagine owns cattle and pretends they're women ; b) srsly now, this isn't how it works, you redefine the context. i own the women you'd be proud to call girlfriend, as cattle. and yes, they have exactly nothing against this arrangement, in fact, they bluntly prefer being owned by me than being your girlfriend. now you're lookin at the prob ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2016 05:53:19; funkenstein_: danielpbarron, girlfriends are way more fun than cattle
mircea_popescu: lem.
mircea_popescu: (yes yes, not possibru, jane'd never, yadda yadda. i know, i know.) ☟︎
nubbins`: "i own the women you'd be proud to call girlfriend" << lol
nubbins`: you flatter yourself in a most vulgar manner
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2016#1431121 << that guy looks like he's doing god's work, ask him to come over ? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2016 07:50:48; punkman: "Next in turn are the CSS parser and Renderer. I'm writing them all by myself, still full of energy. "
mircea_popescu: in other lolz :
mircea_popescu: Prince Alwaleed Bin12:21 pm 2 KiBRe
mircea_popescu: Mr. Bernard Madoff2:33 am 3.4 KiBHello dear ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Madam Aisha M.GaddafiThu, 12:29 pm 5 KiBGreetings From Madam Aisha: Pls Get Back To Me So...
mircea_popescu: apparently i'm a very important fellow.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2016#1431151 << l0l i also got this gift from spm0din ! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2016 12:44:05; mircea_popescu: Mr. Bernard Madoff2:33 am 3.4 KiBHello dear
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2016#1431130 << ty mircea_popescu ! ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2016 12:24:34; mircea_popescu: you can now spend this lulz in any of the affiliated lulzshops
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: feel welcome to use the piece of fine lultronium in an article if it fits, i would greatly enjoy reading such
mircea_popescu: lmao, check this out : apparently sometime cca 2008, one oleh soskin said that nato membership [for the ukraine] is favoured by women, they being... the more intelligent part of the electorate.
mircea_popescu: epic.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh couldn't be arsed.
asciilifeform: ah same
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2016#1431133 << i saw the choice gibblets pop up in ru sphere and tracked them to the motherturd ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2016 12:28:11; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2016#1431071 << guy's a complete imbecile. reading obama is more or less like reading reddit, i dunno who could possibly be arsed.
mircea_popescu: anyway, but speaking of the madam : aisha gaddafi is a rather interesting case. about our age, guy's only daughter iirc, ex un something-or-the-other.
mircea_popescu: then banks decided to steal all her money, because reasons.
mircea_popescu: this is how it works now.
asciilifeform: bud did they swift it!111 ahahahal0
mircea_popescu: she also sued nato for you know, bombing a building and killing her brother and daughter. nato however wasn't sent to jail, because also reasons.
asciilifeform: l.
asciilifeform: hence nato reich.
asciilifeform: aka usg
mircea_popescu: well no, i suspect most of the theft actually happened in uae.
asciilifeform: and didn't reagan murder his other daughter?
mircea_popescu: nfi
asciilifeform: iirc.
mircea_popescu: ah 1980s bombing or somesuch
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: jewish name, too. rachel, hannah, something
mircea_popescu: funny that the official name of the nato invasion of lybia is "the libyan civil war".
mircea_popescu: you know, the "civil war" between the government there and the government away.
asciilifeform: classic usgtronics, they even had an ukr 'exile gov' going in the 40s, 50s
mircea_popescu: i dunno, someone's supposed to buy this shit or something ? oh, if nato invades some place and then calls it a civil war then totally ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo speaking of which, perhaps it's time to start referencing usg as "the government IN washington" ? not like it's legitimate or anything.
asciilifeform: aha
mircea_popescu: just like you know, the elector of saxony being konig im as opposed of konig der. for as long as he stays home he can pretend he's king.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2016#1431144 << sometimed i say to pet , that 'if you be a good pet, mircea_popescu ~might~ consider you for enlistment' ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2016 12:37:02; mircea_popescu: (yes yes, not possibru, jane'd never, yadda yadda. i know, i know.)
mircea_popescu: why me ?! she's enlisted already, neh ? what are you doing!
asciilifeform: when i'm killed
mircea_popescu: this shit's becoming ever more arabic isn't it. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i dunno how one could refuse widow of comrade huh.
asciilifeform: quite!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-03-2016#1431119 << this is nifty ~but~ i invoke greenspun's tenth. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 12-03-2016 07:50:31; punkman: interesting http://lexborisov.github.io/myhtml/
asciilifeform: the correct way to parse html is either a) don't
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asciilifeform: b) readermacro in commonlisp, it turns into s-expression as well formed as the html, and the resulting proggy is what, ten line.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you understand what "parse html" means.
mircea_popescu: let me enlighten you : it's "take a string that is definitionally misformed html, aka html soup, and transform it into sufficiently well formed html to render". ☟︎
asciilifeform: well aha!
mircea_popescu: this job, being eminently unspecifiable, is thus highly fashionable. so we add a codicile :
mircea_popescu: "and do this in the manner everyone else is, so developers aren't too surprised"
asciilifeform: aaaand that's where i jump off that train into the underbrush and join up with the partizans.
mircea_popescu: which explains why madam aisha is writing to you.
asciilifeform: i hope they get 'sooorprised' by falling anvil.
mircea_popescu: it won't make a difference.
asciilifeform: likely.
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punkman: http://www.netsurf-browser.org/projects/
assbot: Projects ... ( http://bit.ly/24WzwRs )
punkman: !s netsurf*
assbot: 0 results for 'netsurf*' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=netsurf%2A
asciilifeform: punkman: aaaaaah yeah suure i so yearn for 10000s lines of c parsing poorly defined crapolade datastructures on my box
asciilifeform: it is the very example of Things That Must Die
asciilifeform: its correct implementation is definitionally impossible
asciilifeform: because 'correct' MEANS, among ither things, fits-in-head.
punkman: well you use a browser don't ya
punkman: I'd rather stop using one of the popular browsers
asciilifeform: i use plenty of loathesome things
asciilifeform: but i will not nod to cementing them into the future.
asciilifeform: which is why i do not succumb to the temptation of maintaining a public linux flavour, for instance
asciilifeform: even though various folks i respect have asked
mircea_popescu: nah, i didn't ask you to maintain one. i asked for one to exist.
asciilifeform: ahahahahahaha l0l
mircea_popescu: so far, the various forefather derps have failed to produce ANYTHING
asciilifeform: they produced megatonne of shit
mircea_popescu: it's on their fucking heads. when i'm not willing to pay as much as a farthing for the continuance of the world they built, this'd be why.
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shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 gentoo ready for test when u wake up
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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danielpbarron: sooo.. AlphaGo won.
danielpbarron: !up asciilifeform
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phf: asciilifeform: b) readermacro in commonlisp, it turns into s-expression as well formed as the html, and the resulting proggy is what, ten line. << i wish, closure-html is 4252 uloc, depends on cxml 7881 uloc, depends on closure-common 2053 uloc.
phf: i think there's a fukamachi project that does html parsing with the intent of scrapping, but it's the guy behind woo http server (i.e. cffi to libev, full "modernizayshn" kool aid), http://cl21.org, so i've not looked at it
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phf: ben_vulpes: also dood wtf you stop in the city, swing through powells, and can't go 2 mi out of the way to get your eyes on my fp and mine on yours? << i'm guilty as charged, but it was not intended as a slight, so please don't take it as such. i needed to clear my head, and while i thought i should reach out, i didn't have it in me. this is not the last time i'm in Oregon this year, so i promise to not make the same mistake again :)
phf: the area is Willamette National Forest, some hiking distance away from Breitenbush
phf: also, holy mother of logs ☟︎
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mod6: shinohai: cool! what do you wanna test? probably should get all the pre-req's installed and then build trb with the latest build script: http://deedot.org/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1pmryks )
mod6: Unless you had something else in mind.
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shinohai: mod6 that looks good will give it a whirl
mircea_popescu: how's blogging going btw danielpbarron
mod6: shinohai: ok cool.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, got a bunch of drafts going. might have one ready to publish in a day or two
mircea_popescu: cool.
mircea_popescu: how much for an eulora ad ?
shinohai: mod6: deedbot link is null
mod6: oh, i fucked up the url
mod6: http://deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-V99995.sh
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1UnhTWh )
mod6: you probably should have a box on your lan that you can periodically offload the block chain to, incase of power outage.
mod6: we've seen what happens there.
ben_vulpes: phf: none taken
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, an ad like how? a post? or like something on the sidebar?
mircea_popescu: yeah something like on the sidebar.
danielpbarron: 3 rock double distilate blueprints for a month?
shinohai: mod6: i built this as qemu img so i can try to make mirror of the whole shebang.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha wut!
mircea_popescu: how about 10mn for the rest of the year.
danielpbarron: 24 wdd blueprints for the rest of the year
danielpbarron: q200
danielpbarron: orr, rdd*
mircea_popescu: i was thinking wtf.
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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo speaking of which, perhaps it's time to start referencing usg as "the government IN washington" ? not like it's legitimate or anything. << I'll have to do some reading into the right way to deny them legitimacy in writing
mircea_popescu: the embattled self-styled "us president", for one.
BingoBoingo: That one could work, but parts of this may be required to live for quite some time.
mircea_popescu: yeah. you also don't want it to get tedious.
mircea_popescu: maybe have a 1:10 rule or something.
BingoBoingo: Gotta make sure we can live with the labels.
mircea_popescu: aha
BingoBoingo: Been working on ways to handle Trump-CLinton or Girl-Clinton January, but still need to work on the Cowboy Cruz and Mormon Mitt contingencies.
mircea_popescu: do you know about the derp from ohio, btw ?
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BingoBoingo: Mr Boring Kasich?
mircea_popescu: dude, he's something else. such a mine of unintentional comedy has rarely been seen.
mircea_popescu: do you know he's the "light of hope" or some nonsense ?
mircea_popescu: and they "coined a term" to "help him breakout", something like kasichwhat was it
BingoBoingo: Yeah, but he's been running to barter his delegates in a brokered convention the whole time. Not a serious candidate like Cruz or Sanders
BingoBoingo: Aha, they all try to make derpy memes nao
BingoBoingo generally directs less attention to vice presidential candidates like the Ohio guy
mircea_popescu: Kasich: Women 'left their kitchens' to help him campaign
BingoBoingo: lol
shinohai: are there pre-existing Eulora banners somewhere? or can one acquire rights to the imagery ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai jusy make one.
mircea_popescu: put it on eulorum, should be fine.
shinohai: cool
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo guy's pretty lulzy. piece pumping him, large lulz potential. jus' sayin'. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: john kasich 5.0!
BingoBoingo: I might start playing with that, but can't run it until Monday. If it drops has to be fresh for Tuesday's votings
mircea_popescu: it's like the hot topic of electoral derpitude. where pruny old ladies from ohio copy/paste stuff from the reddits.
BingoBoingo: lol
mod6: <+shinohai> mod6: i built this as qemu img so i can try to make mirror of the whole shebang. << ah ok
mircea_popescu: http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2014/05/what_the_john_kasich_profile_t.html << 2014.
assbot: What the John Kasich profile tells us about where he's been and where he might be heading | cleveland.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1pmuDB9 )
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BingoBot: http://qntra.net/2016/03/bug-in-libotr-threatens-to-compromise-systems/
assbot: Bug In libotr Threatens To Compromise Systems | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/22bHL9X )
adlai: hmm: "By sending 275 messages of size 20MB each [to] a system with 8GB of ram and 15GB of swap space."
adlai: let's just say that this is not exploitable on a pogo
BingoBoingo: Not every computer is a pogo yet
BingoBoingo: In other entirely expected failures at lulz http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/12/was-the-woman-giving-the-nazi-salute-at-trump-rally-in-chicago-a-supporter-of-donald-or-bernie/
assbot: Was The Woman Giving The Nazi Salute At Trump Rally In Chicago A Supporter Of Donald Or Bernie? | The Daily Caller ... ( http://bit.ly/1V1P7e4 )
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BingoBoingo: Oh, ED does get new content https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Trolling_Induced_Transgenderism_Syndrome
assbot: Trolling Induced Transsexuality Syndrome - Encyclopedia Dramatica ... ( http://bit.ly/21osq3F )
BingoBoingo: Fuck this John Kasich research never ends https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Cotton_Ceiling
assbot: Cotton Ceiling - Encyclopedia Dramatica ... ( http://bit.ly/21osGjb )
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phf: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/tree/gl/lib/root-dev-ino.h#n33 heh, how typical gnu
assbot: coreutils.git - GNU coreutils ... ( http://bit.ly/1TDZt4r )
ben_vulpes: read that as "quote as fuck" for half a second
ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#2671 << is there a good reason to be doing this check inside ScanHash_CryptoPP's loop rather than just returning from SC_CPP on each iteration?
assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1TE0iKD )
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ben_vulpes: also dafuq is up with that name
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phf: well, doing loops increases runtime of function, but returns a hash with a bunch of 00s so presumably a more expensive check outside has higher chance of inspecting a relevant value
phf: but imho SHA256Transform, ScanHash_CryptoPP and BitcoinMiner:3021-3032 would be better of getting rolled into a single dozen line for-loop
phf: or at the very least ScanHash_CryptoPP inlined into bitcoin miner, can just do hash<=hashTarget check immediately inside if (((unsigned short*)phash)[14] == 0)
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phf: the dodgy name betrays a dodgy abstraction of the "too much shit here, put that shit over there, nice and tidy like" school of code refactoring
ben_vulpes is pleased to see suspicions confirmed
ben_vulpes: phf: while i have your attention, do you have any idea how the various SHA256_Init, _Transform functions get into main.cpp?
ben_vulpes: i looked at main's imports and didn't see it including any other bitcoind namespaces pulling in the openssl/sha files
phf: i'm confused, src/headers imports openssl/sha yeah?
ben_vulpes: oh
ben_vulpes: so there are includes in both .h and .cpp
ben_vulpes: thanks phf
phf: i found a watch for asciilifeform http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-UC-2200-Series-Controller-Printer-with-Wrist-Computer-Watch-UC-2000-/152006653855
assbot: Seiko UC 2200 Series Controller Printer with Wrist Computer Watch UC 2000 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/22bWQIC )
BingoBoingo thought alf still used gears and springs
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danielpbarron: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://danielpbarron.com/gmosquito.asc.txt
assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/24XhDSu )
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danielpbarron: man it's way easier to prepare qntra articles with my blog draft setup, and if you don't like it i'm already all set to publish it myself :D
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: ty
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: I'll get this up in a bit.