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mircea_popescu: they then decided
sussman isn't welcome either ; eventually they had to make a new "lab", to alleviate both the problem of their pretense to sovereignity, and of the people not caring what they say
mircea_popescu: for random reasons mit decides minsky is no longer allowed in the building ;
sussman gave him his key card.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-13 23:07 mircea_popescu: In the days when
Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you recall, the thing that got all the inept "science" press hot and bothered in the 80s, and nosnense such as hal 9000 / space odissey etc (ie, the first iteration of "lesswrong" wankery) was a demonstration by
sussman & goode that "you can have artificial brains growing in the same way as real ones", ie, neural networks that algorithmically expand
mircea_popescu: i suppose i should have used minsky instead,
sussman is a) still extant and b) kinda moved away from ai in the idyllic sense towards more practical applications IE SOLD OUT!
mircea_popescu: had
sussman known how to make an ai in the first place.
mircea_popescu: by now this is an epic machine, are you kidding me, all
sussman would have needed to make an ai
a111: Logged on 2017-12-21 19:38 phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-20#1755450 << i've picked up a book in new orleans, “Symbolic computation : applications to scientific computing”, it's all macsyma and various
sussman style scheme hacks for exploring dynamic systems, but an interesting trick that almost all the code uses, which i guess was sop in lisp world at some point, is to do visualization and control on a lisp machine, but do the heavy numeric simulations in fortran 77. the in
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-20#1755450 << i've picked up a book in new orleans, “Symbolic computation : applications to scientific computing”, it's all macsyma and various
sussman style scheme hacks for exploring dynamic systems, but an interesting trick that almost all the code uses, which i guess was sop in lisp world at some point, is to do visualization and control on a lisp machine, but do the heavy numeric simulations in fortran 77. the in
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-30 08:53 spyked: in other innovative and artificially Intel-ligent news:
http://archive.is/Mo85Z when did Hillis/
Sussman/Feynman play with the connection machine? ah, late '80s!
spyked: in other innovative and artificially Intel-ligent news:
http://archive.is/Mo85Z when did Hillis/
Sussman/Feynman play with the connection machine? ah, late '80s!
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 17:50 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'lisp trb' is
sussman's 'scheme83' chip.
phf: mircea_popescu: csail (mit ai lab then) published "ai memos" from 1959 to sometime in early 2000s where they described a lot of "firsts" in computing in general. scheme spec was published by
sussman and steele, lisp 1.5 compiler (first "self-hosting"), lisp machine architecture, etc. most papers are not so much ai as computing in general.
phf: i believe that was described in the "
Sussman attains enlightenment"
phf: oh it's that chick that got
sussman to sell his chips
assbot: Logged on 27-09-2014 03:19:43; asciilifeform:
sussman, surrendering to decay:
assbot: Logged on 23-02-2016 05:58:56; phf: i'm sure the chip went same way, some chinese american female student, "say, prof
sussman, how about you sell your life's work to highest bidder on this hip website. it'll legitimize what you did because you're no longer just a nerd, but now also an artist"
phf: i'm sure the chip went same way, some chinese american female student, "say, prof
sussman, how about you sell your life's work to highest bidder on this hip website. it'll legitimize what you did because you're no longer just a nerd, but now also an artist"
☟︎ phf: "This lot includes two Scheme-81 computer chips, signed by Gerald
Sussman. This lot also includes a commemorative 3D-printed Babylonian styled tablet containing the password to a private Github repository where the buyer may access an image of the Scheme-81 chips."
ascii_butugychag: (
sussman and abelson were the creators of scheme, authors of sicp, and taught the course)
mircea_popescu: unsurprisingly, as it's the one bit of ai we actually turn out to need (as opposed to starstrucklingly WANT, a la
sussman & co)
phf: there's greenblatt, tom knight, david moon, daniel weinreb, guy steele, peter norvig, abelson&
sussman, jack holloway. stallman and minsky. not to mention cracauer, eller, fahlman, maclachlan, rme, ron garret of the later people that i know of, tons of people i'm forgetting.
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 23:07:45; mircea_popescu: At that moment,
Sussman was enlightened.
assbot: Logged on 27-09-2014 03:19:43; asciilifeform:
sussman, surrendering to decay:
mircea_popescu: Chillum im not so sure the aws "machine learning" works much better than
sussman's tic tac toe machine
mircea_popescu: "Why do you close your eyes?"
Sussman asked his teacher.
mircea_popescu: "I do not want it to have any preconceptions of how to play",
Sussman said.
mircea_popescu: "I am training a randomly wired neural net to play Tic-tac-toe",
Sussman replied.
mircea_popescu: In the days when
Sussman was a novice, Minsky once came to him as he sat hacking at the PDP-6.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: JuliaTourianski lol you ever read how
sussman was englightened ?
decimation: yeah I remember that
sussman quote, it is depressing
decimation: right I remember your post about
sussman trying to dodge the "why did you give up" question