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assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.004839 = 0.1887 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: works on womenz too.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 64 @ 0.00484 = 0.3098 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: if they're cats.
mircea_popescu: and of course, http://i.imgur.com/UaNm6fv.gif
moiety: relevant: http://i.imgur.com/Fhek8DO.png
moiety: awwww!!!!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 110 @ 0.00484 = 0.5324 BTC [+]
moiety: this one is fighting back http://i.imgur.com/k1N13cY.gif
BingoBoingo: And it's March!
moiety: Happy March everyone, have some bear biscuits i made yesterday https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/p526x296/1939461_10200749700904440_715359882_n.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1190 @ 0.00484 = 5.7596 BTC [+]
moiety: its not march for you yet bingo!
jurov: nice
BingoBoingo: moiety: How are you to know I'm not traveling?
moiety: because if you were travelling to my timezone, you shouldve told me
moiety: girl logic. simples
BingoBoingo: moiety: What about the african, ocean, or antarctic parts of the timezone?
jurov: and what about moon timezone?
BingoBoingo: I guess Maybe the Moon is UTC as well, but there's no people there to ask.
kakobrekla: doges know about the moon timezone.
moiety: BingoBoingo: http://i.imgur.com/iWRYZI0.gif
moiety: mircea actually posted that hif ages ago, i saved it because it's my whole being in a gif sadly
moiety: but yeah, hadn't thought about the other bits of the timezone
nubbins`: bulldog clips, handy things
nubbins`: we have a clothesline full of 'em
moiety: as my cats are going to find out nubbins` !
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Do doges do time well enough to have that concept?
nubbins`: you're going to clip your cats? :(
moiety: no im kidding
moiety: i couldnt find any clips
nubbins`: D;
nubbins`: GOOD
moiety: im kidding!
kakobrekla: well, the did manage to get fake astronauts suits, so gotta give them some credit.
moiety: btw, what was the name of r3wt's exchange?
BingoBoingo: moiety: Openex.pw
moiety: thanks
moiety: no ne has been daft enough to trade with him have they?
moiety: no one*
BingoBoingo: moiety: Well it was the only place to trade ATC on a website before Apocalyptic did his thing
jurov: $avg
mpexbot: jurov: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
jurov: ;;ticker --market btcavg
gribble: BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 539.89, Best ask: 544.21, Bid-ask spread: 4.32000, Last trade: 540.75, 24 hour volume: 53682.53, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 567.22
jurov: *crosses fingers and uses this as input*
mircea_popescu: jurov don't do that.
mircea_popescu: wait for ann
jurov: ah mkay
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCUSD last: 135.0, vol: 0.00000000 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 541.15, vol: 24838.25261283 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 531.2, vol: 12183.12848 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 542.25444, vol: 15293.33238379 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 568.5, vol: 81.45490132 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 551.660382, vol: 7295.14400000 | Volume-weighted last average: 540.723991296
BingoBoingo: Volume is still deficient in Zeros
moiety: we'll be seeing gox staplers and sellotape dispensers on ebay soon
nubbins` raises eyebrow
nubbins`: quick question, mpex signup fees are *not* distributed as mpoe dividends, correct?
jurov: they are
nubbins`: :o
nubbins`: SOMEBODY GIVE ME A FUCKING COMPUTER
jurov: ;;slap nubbins`
gribble slaps nubbins` with a battered trout
BingoBoingo: ;;lasers nubbins`
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!*
moiety: lol! i love gribble
kakobrekla: nubbins` how else would it have been a ponzi
nubbins`: good point
nubbins` signs up twice so as to get best value for money
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66495 @ 0.00086856 = 57.7549 BTC [+] {8}
moiety: why does gox even still have a value for btcusd?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00087135 = 8.4521 BTC [+]
nubbins`: nostalgia
kakobrekla: cause servers are paid until the end of the month
mircea_popescu: ^
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.11 = 0.22 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.10808001 = 0.5404 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 10 @ 0.08264585 = 0.8265 BTC [+] {5}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.08366666 = 0.251 BTC [+] {2}
nubbins`: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/10664372/RBS-has-lost-all-the-46bn-pumped-in-by-the-taxpayer.html
moiety: youre kidding
nubbins`: often, yes, but right now i'm just pasting links :D
moiety: lol sorry, just derping aloud
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 48 @ 0.00666667 = 0.32 BTC [+]
moiety: i wonder how they plan to buy natwest now then
moiety: santander were meant to but backed out. RBS picked up the tab but not for all branches. only some across scotland. now we have these stupid card readers and about 30 redirects to get to online banking
mircea_popescu: nubbins` was more like 100bn, and also is in log :D
nubbins`: i actually read it today, don't often click links tho ;(
nubbins`: but yah, #46bn is like 85-90bn cad
nubbins`: amazing
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
nubbins`: staggering, even
assbot: STAGGERING COMPANY!
nubbins`: roommates are spitting about how gross it is
kakobrekla: like the shit on the toilet from back in the day?
mircea_popescu: lmao
nubbins`: hahah
nubbins`: the shitter bought me a bag of potato chips and two cookies as an apology yesterday ;(
kakobrekla: did he say "i smeared it with that, you can now try it out yourself"
nubbins`: no details on the incident were released
moiety: aside from google image search, is there anything that i can search for a picture being wrongly used?
nubbins`: tineye
nubbins`: (canadian!)
moiety: oh thanks very much :D thats fab
nubbins`: so i dropped my rpm challenge CDs off today at the record store, and they gave me a coupon for 15% off my next purchase!
mircea_popescu: so i guess you need blanks then
nubbins`: i had to buy a spindle of cd-rs. felt really weird.
HeySteve: hmm, any news announcement yet?
nubbins`: not sure what i'm going to do with the other 48 of them
HeySteve: obamacare is using the doge meme. o tempora o mores! http://blogs.marketwatch.com/health-exchange/2014/02/26/hhs-borrows-doge-meme-to-sell-obamacare-and-elicits-a-few-groans/?mod=MW_home_latest_news&link=sfmw
nubbins`: o discordia!
moiety: no joy with tineye but i will keep checking, thank you nubbins`
asciilifeform: funfun - http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-cuba-russia-ship-20140227,0,7642471.story
moiety: asciilifeform! did you see the molten metal 3D printer robot? and the one that can print a house in 24 hours? 3D printers aren't as good as lasers but they are still cool.
asciilifeform: moiety: sintering machine? old news
asciilifeform: i think diametric has one
nubbins`: so after a quick google search led me to the wikipedia page about discordia, the story behind EFNet's name is suddenly funnier
asciilifeform: (or maybe not - you need inert gas)
Mats_cd03: .bait
ozbot: http://31.media.tumblr.com/cee51a34672b1b88c22de04ca3df30a6/tumblr_mes6ctZd4x1rrqd70o1_1280.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 278 @ 0.00484 = 1.3455 BTC [+]
HeySteve: discordia is a dark tower thing isn't it? what's that to do with EFNet?
nubbins`: among other things, it is indeed mentioned in the dark tower
asciilifeform: moiety: sintering printer typically uses the same setup as laser cutter, with a bucket full of powdered Al or whichever metal where the bed would normally go
nubbins`: discordia is the latin name of the greek goddess eris
asciilifeform: you fuze a layer, then spread more powder, and so on, until the piece is complete
nubbins`: who was the goddess of strife, chaos, and discord
moiety: asciilifeform: i was just looking it up. the laarman prototype from earlier in feb?
moiety: http://youtu.be/NFF0QQIQDXE
ozbot: MX3D printing - YouTube
asciilifeform: moiety: the basic concept goes back to the '80s
asciilifeform: none of this is really new.
nubbins`: the lel being that EFNet (eris-free network) got its name after its predecessor network delinked a server called irc.eris.<tld>
moiety: jesus 80s?
nubbins`: because eris sucked so bad
nubbins`: and with a name like that, how could it not!
nubbins`: sorry, eris.berkeley.edu
nubbins`: either way
nubbins`: bit of a chuckle
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/
asciilifeform: moiety: the machine pictured in the video is just a tig welder attached to xyz arm, it seems
ozbot: MPOE, February 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: and there it is.
nubbins`: wow.
nubbins`: such div
moiety: it just looks so cool asciilifeform ... it's all exciting to me still lol
mod6: O_O
Duffer1: PR, 2.875 :(
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67520 @ 0.0008656 = 58.4453 BTC [-] {6}
nubbins`: :O just finished reading
nubbins` marks calendar
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 183179 @ 0.00084112 = 154.0755 BTC [-] {18}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.11 = 1.65 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if mpex acct costs 30, how did 'from new accts' add up to 70?
Bugpowder: nice month!
asciilifeform: can i buy 1/3 of an acct?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it can generate either 30 btc or 20 btc
mircea_popescu: depending on whether people use referrals or not
asciilifeform: ahaha
mircea_popescu: referral = each gets 5 rebate, the referrer and the referred.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29761 @ 0.00087236 = 25.9623 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: 1/3 of account has SELL disabled, do not buy
asciilifeform: 'instead of office chair, package contained bobcat. A++, would trade again'
nubbins`: heh
Bugpowder: well that's kinda annoying... Someone sold to 75000?
nubbins`: those things are expensive!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.00488995 = 2.445 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: nubbins`: http://xkcd.com/325
nubbins`: lel @ alt ;(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 696 @ 0.0048934 = 3.4058 BTC [+] {3}
nubbins`: wait, it's friday, isn't it?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1256 @ 0.00499775 = 6.2772 BTC [+] {5}
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/slum-landlords-pocketing-social-assistance-money-for-rent-1.2554226
ozbot: Slum landlords pocketing social assistance money for rent - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
nubbins`: a slum landlord owns maybe half of the houses on my street
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 76 @ 0.005 = 0.38 BTC [+] {4}
asciilifeform: nubbins`: wait - what are they supposed to pocket as rent ?
nubbins`: oh, you!
Duffer1: I mostly specify this as a parting fuck you broadside to the MtGox troop of idiots, who thought that perhaps if they re-do the original MtGox “hack” I may have trouble. It’s cute, I guess, in the sense of a bunch of ducks trying to work together to provoke waves that’ll sink a neighbouring battleship.
nubbins`: i once called this slumlord to inform him that i was getting the city to clean up the apartment's worth of possessions his workers dumped on the sidewalk, on his dime
nubbins`: halfway through the conversation he interrupts me with "what are you telling me for?", followed by a toilet flushing
nubbins`: had a good lel at that after i calmed down
asciilifeform: 'If they're taking in taxpayer dollars to provide accommodations for their tenants, there should be some oversight — especially by government — as to what people are living in.'
asciilifeform: imagine if this actually happened
nubbins`: lel
nubbins`: well the next logical step would be oversight as to what the tenants spend their remaining money on
BingoBoingo: Wow, Bitcoin finally outgrew fiat exchanges
asciilifeform: (see the 'last psychiatrist' piece mp linked to the other day)
mircea_popescu: so basically the canadian government actually wants to run everything or what
nubbins`: and good luck with that
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo not without some trepidation.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, the cbc wants that, but the government doesn't
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: This is so much more thrilling than last spring.
nubbins`: (incidentally, this is a provincial, not a federal, thing)
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: it IS always the spring, isn't it.
nubbins` thinks
nubbins`: actually, no, it's not
nubbins`: anyway, there's no solution
copumpkin: omg lord master mircea_popescu has decreed that the price be $500
copumpkin: and it will be so
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: so dividend gets paid March 3?
mircea_popescu: yeah
mircea_popescu: copumpkin ;/
mircea_popescu: what the fuck am i to do
nubbins`: so a house gets bedbugs. the landlord fumigates at great expense. the dirtbags infest the place again. repeat ad infinitum.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Indeed. SHit happend in spring. Then calms during the summer when schoolkids have too much time, a bit of drama happens in the fall, there is a bit of winter buildup, then SPRING
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I don't know! just commenting
mircea_popescu: at least mine's platonially solid.
copumpkin debates selling his MPOE shares
asciilifeform: nubbins`: 'zyklon-b' ?
mircea_popescu: platonically*
nubbins`: alternately: a house gets bedbugs. the tenants fumigate at great expense. the bedbugs come back from the house next door. repeat ad infinitum.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` is it expensive to fumigate ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0051 = 0.255 BTC [+]
nubbins`: well the problem is most of downtown is row houses, attached on both sides. generally fumigation doesn't do shit
BingoBoingo: Prolly expensive in Canada, but in canada everything is expensive.
nubbins`: BingoBoingo, everything but the drugs
mircea_popescu: (i've never fumigated anything. oddly enough, bedbugs etc do not exist in romania)
nubbins`: they didn't exist here either until the past couple years
nubbins`: this is a very recent thing
mircea_popescu: welfare helps all bugs and cockroaches across the board
mircea_popescu: not just the bipedal ones.
nubbins`: nod
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: would you mind flushing another deposit before my laptop battery dies?
asciilifeform: story goes that they were re-introduced from somewhere in mexico.
mircea_popescu: nope.
nubbins`: the other problem is that welfare tenants generally won't tell the landlord if the house is infested.
nubbins`: the only clues are a succession of stained mattresses and couches left on the sidewalk over a period of several weeks
mircea_popescu: nubbins` or anyone else anything else, for that matter.
nubbins`: nod
mircea_popescu: i vividly recall this discussion between a veterinarian and a inner city md
mircea_popescu: vet : "well, it's easier to be an md, at least your patients can tell you wtf is wrong"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 44 @ 0.0055 = 0.242 BTC
asciilifeform: 20th c. wants to come back! measles, polio...
mircea_popescu: md : "its much easier to be a vet. animals don't lie"
nubbins`: animals don't just want a prescription for ritalin
mircea_popescu: right.
nubbins`: people don't hide in cat carriers
nubbins`: i'd say it's about even
BingoBoingo: Dogs and crackheads both bite though
nubbins`: there ya go
nubbins`: common ground
mircea_popescu: you mean bitches
BingoBoingo: Nah, bitches behave
BingoBoingo: Ratchets on the other hand
mircea_popescu: is behave short for beaver shave ?
BingoBoingo: Ofc
BingoBoingo: ourse
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: so loquacious ;p
mircea_popescu: o who wanted to be pinged when this is published
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/vince-li-s-new-freedoms-outrage-manitoba-mp-shelly-glover-1.2555600
ozbot: Vince Li's new freedoms outrage Manitoba MP Shelly Glover - Manitoba - CBC News
nubbins`: ^ this guy cut a man's head off on a greyhound bus
Bugpowder: whoops.. Finally read to the bottom.
asciilifeform: related: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/02/18/norways_mass_murderer_brievik_threatens_hunger_strike_for_better_video_games.html
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: jhahaha
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: HeySteve2 wanted the ping
mircea_popescu: a ty.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess a guy's gotta have goals in life.
nubbins`: y'know, i feel like i'd enjoy nordic prison
mircea_popescu: did he want gta4 or what ?
nubbins`: burn down a church? here's a synthesizer!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.0007963 = 14.1741 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: $vwap s.mpex
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
mircea_popescu: $vwap s.mpoe
HeySteve: <nubbins`> ^ this guy cut a man's head off on a greyhound bus < I would be cranky too if I had to use public transport
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00086156 high: 0.00087256 low: 0.00075 volume: 1438116 btc: 1239.0294164 7 day: average: 0.00087156 high: 0.0008982 low: 0.00075 volume: 7049383 btc: 6143.97817607 30 day: average: 0.0008793 high: 0.00096 low: 0.00075 volume: 28915312 btc: 25425.2607003
nubbins`: had to? he coulda flown!
mircea_popescu: tbh, in some places public transport is a delight.
nubbins`: they tried to market the bus here as "your own 40 foot limo", to much derision
mircea_popescu: generally, large uni centers etc.
asciilifeform: 'greyhound', for people on the other side of the ocean, is a 'tourist' bus, kitted out like an airplane
nubbins`: generally people don't have to wait in the cold for an hour to get a limo, though
asciilifeform: rather than an ordinary city bus
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 60 @ 0.0055 = 0.33 BTC
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i spent months going through the eastern us on greyhounds
mircea_popescu: it was very informative.
asciilifeform: most people here take the 'chinese' bus instead, these days
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rcd4Yfo0q0
ozbot: jonathan richman - you're crazy for taking the bus - YouTube
asciilifeform: exactly like 'greyhound' but costs 1/3.
nubbins`: ^ relevant song, also very informative
moiety: nubbins`: bed bugs a) have nothing to do with the hygiene of a place and b) can hop to the house next door
nubbins`: moiety: that's where my fears come from, yep
moiety: can't** sorry
nubbins`: oh yes they can!
mircea_popescu: of course they can
moiety: not a building they cannot
mircea_popescu: and of course they have to do with the hygiene. what are oyu talking about ?
nubbins`: if you live in a city that looks like this, they most definitely can hop to the house next door: http://imgur.com/1SntHHD
moiety: http://insects.about.com/od/truebugs/a/10-Myths-About-Bed-Bugs.htm
moiety: they like fuckin blood not dirt
mircea_popescu: moiety this may be true, but they do have migration patterns.
mircea_popescu: they're not like blood seeking missiles their entire lives.
moiety: no i can't see them migrating like geese their way door-to-door down a street though
mircea_popescu: (and if they didn't migrate, you'd have difficulty explaining how the fuck they even exist in the americas in the first place)
nubbins`: who said door to door?
nubbins`: i share two walls with neighbours
moiety: sorry i thought thats what you meant when you said fromthe house next door
BingoBoingo: Honestly I am more concerned about ticks when I go outside than bedbugs invading my space. This stuff used generously at points of egress keeps all kinds of small undesirables out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatomaceous_earth
moiety: oh christ i didn't realise we were being literal as to entry points. i honestly don't think bedbugs use doors
nubbins`: you don't see ticks here
nubbins`: moiety, they're not tall enough to reach the handle, for starters
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Because you live in an icy wasteland
moiety: lololol
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: shush, it's only icy for like 7 months.
moiety: maybe they could work together
mircea_popescu: lmao bedbug tower
moiety: yes! like the sheep from wallace and gromit
mircea_popescu: spray with tit silicone, put on display
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/swiss-arms-classic-green-rifle-ban-to-be-reviewed-by-government-1.2555746
ozbot: Swiss Arms Classic Green rifle ban to be reviewed by government - Politics - CBC News
nubbins`: cbc is actually interesting today
BingoBoingo: I mean I don't trust bedbugs because they fuck by cesarean. Ticks though carry all kinds of nasty diseases and fumigating "The Great Outdoors" is difficult.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.13311598 = 0.2662 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know real men don't get lyme
mircea_popescu: (tm)
nubbins`: there are actually relatively few things that can kill you here
nubbins`: aside from, y'know, the elements.
moiety: http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/07/entertainment_shaun_the_sheep/img/1.jpg
moiety: like this ^
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.0008 = 30.84 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.10800003 = 0.216 BTC [-]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There's quite a few other nastier diseases than lyme. Lyme just gets the press because pseudo-medicine makes better news.
moiety: my house is to be assessed for something called Legionnaires apparently.
mircea_popescu: moiety take moar cold showers.
nubbins`: eeee, yipes
nubbins`: there were a few big legionnaires outbreaks in canada the past couple years
nubbins`: something like 2 dozen people in an old folks home died in 2012 i think
moiety: is it very bad? they have to assess rented flats every two years by law my letter says
bitcoinpete: howdy
moiety: hi pete :)
mircea_popescu: moiety it's not that bad. wear something loose.
bitcoinpete: It's incredibly late here in bruxelles but I thought I'd leave my latest von blooog post for your casual readying enjoyment.
bitcoinpete: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/patience-en-ville/
ozbot: Patience En Ville | When Bitcoin Met Pete
bitcoinpete: I'm off to bed, then I'll be in the logs as usual.
bitcoinpete: Cheers and bon soir
moiety: my bathroom is very clean, i will say that
nubbins`: charlie's in the trees, pete's in the logs
mircea_popescu: an' teh poofs are in the pudding
nubbins`: there's a dick surgery song where it's discussed that the details are also in the pudding
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39800 @ 0.00079865 = 31.7863 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.109 BTC [+]
nubbins`: well. "song" is being generous
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38009 @ 0.00077761 = 29.5562 BTC [-] {2}
moiety: BingoBoingo: i decided what to do with my btc domain. im making a scottish item shop. not giving up on my stamping plan though
BingoBoingo: moiety: Solid decision
moiety: you mean it?
BingoBoingo: moiety: Yeah, much better than a decision where you have to stamp every product and in the process look like Rosie the Riveter. Being Bitcoin's source for Scottish shit sounds like something worth trying.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114260 @ 0.00075144 = 85.8595 BTC [-] {3}
moiety: lol actually... i hadnt thought of that.. "sorry your order is delayed.. i'm not very fit and i got tired making it"
nubbins`: canned haggis
MisterE: fuck that
moiety: ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
MisterE: Shagging sheeps
MisterE: or is that a scouser thing?
nubbins`: somebody give me the elevator pitch on buttercoin.com
BingoBoingo: moiety: I though we touched on that problem when you presented the plan. Stamping metal with a hammer is tiring work
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Herpitty Derp derp
mircea_popescu: nubbins` i can;t believe it's not margerine.
nubbins`: ty, that works
moiety: i thought it be ok because they were small things BingoBoingo btw there is people opening a dog cafe and a cat cafe in london. edinburgh seems to have none.....
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I can't find your key on my keyserver
copumpkin: I'm on a different computer and found I didn't have it in my list
copumpkin: keys.gnupg.net
copumpkin: which should I be searching for?
copumpkin: oh you have the key in the page
BingoBoingo: I'm rather surprised http://bitbet.us/bet/769/crimea-2-electric-boogaloo/ isn't getting more action yet as it focuses on the most important precedent this recent crimea lulz covers.
moiety: omg i have it all planned out, we could totally do a bar. bingoboingo barman, asciilifeform doing the laser lights, nubbins` sorting pest control, bugpowder green flourescent protein glowsticks, benkay on music and mircea dancing girls!
moiety: or not
nubbins`: as much as i'd like to move overseas to wield a can of raid
BingoBoingo: moiety: Honestly if you want to open a bar the best place to position your business in relation to me is one such that I am a customer.
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moiety: BingoBoingo: you're right, you can prop up the bar
moiety: or remove riff raff
BingoBoingo: I could do both.
mircea_popescu: copumpkin it's on my blog
copumpkin: yeah got it :)
moiety: ok, not paying you twice so will pay in alcohol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo maybe people dunno wtf boogaloo is supposed to be
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> as much as i'd like to move overseas to wield a can of raid << lmao
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I though the Internet was strong enough people know electric boogaloo's are sequels.
mircea_popescu: your customer service sucs
mircea_popescu: and is arrgorant
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I keep getting unrecognized signature even though I'm using the same key I used to sign up :(
copumpkin: says to email you my key but I did that long long ago :P
mircea_popescu: copumpkin did you ever re-email it as per teh verification last year /
mircea_popescu: ?
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copumpkin: oh, no
copumpkin: I wasn't paying attention
copumpkin: that was a thing?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Really the point of Ukraine as of now isn't the end political outcome, as far as that bet is concerned. It's determining how overtly "Black Ops" can happen in a white people country before commandos have to have affiliations, because Geneva protocols and conventions and such.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I guess you have no way to contact me or even any knowledge of me having an account :P
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCkT4K-hppE
ozbot: Beirut - Nantes - YouTube
mircea_popescu: copumpkin mpex may be the only entity in bitcoin which has gone two years without sending a single greatly informative and muchly important email blast.
copumpkin: :)
mircea_popescu: but anyway, lemme dig it for you.
copumpkin: only because you don't have my email!
copumpkin: :P
copumpkin: should I just email you the key again?
nubbins`: just email mine instead
copumpkin: (goes to show how active a user I am)
mircea_popescu: yeah.
copumpkin: nubbins`: lol
mircea_popescu: well technically you could extract some sort of email from gpg keys, but i never bothered to.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: office@polimedia? that's where the old one went
mircea_popescu: yea
nubbins`: 'cause, y'know, it'd work or something
BingoBoingo: OMG copumpkin is selling his S.MPOE, sell first!!!
copumpkin: BingoBoingo: nah, trying to remember how much I have
copumpkin: and I can't even run a STAT: P
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: eleven bentlees
copumpkin: that'd be amusing
copumpkin: I don't think I can even afford one bentley though
nubbins`: bentleys are vulgar
mircea_popescu: o look, greene sueing mtgox
mircea_popescu: copumpkin anyone with s.mpoe stock should afford a bentley!
copumpkin: lol
copumpkin: I don't think I bought enough of it back then
mircea_popescu: copumpkin bentleys are divisible, so you should at least get a few bentloshis.
copumpkin: lol I hope so
moiety: LOL
copumpkin: but what keyserver can I find your keys on?
copumpkin: I want to encrypt my email to office but I can't find the key for it
mircea_popescu: i has no idea ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Still looking at the legal history of Illinois governors, being a n00b and being pissed about Gox because he was too good for warnings makes his Derping rather inconsequential in the history of embarassing things about Illinois
copumpkin: oh well
mircea_popescu: copumpkin http://trilema.com/pgp/
mircea_popescu: it's impossible to keep track of keyservers and i kind-of gave up.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the law firm is the key there.
mircea_popescu: they wanted to do the suit. it's clearly a zerocost thing.
copumpkin: okay, emailed and encrypted :D
nubbins`: best thing that ever happened to illinois was a sufjan stevens album
mircea_popescu: talking about how it's a "natural extension of their practice" and whatnot
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copumpkin: mircea_popescu: where would you say you fall on the political spectrum?
mircea_popescu: asshole.
copumpkin: lol
nubbins`: lel
copumpkin: so you want to be a politician
mircea_popescu: maybe vajina some days.
mircea_popescu: where do you fall ?
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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Eh, if it isn't Cueto and Cueto it isn't an Illinois enough case
mircea_popescu: "So, we don’t have to worry about Japanese laws and how they apply."
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I'm firmly in the "don't be an asshole" camp :)
copumpkin: I'm sure that's a huge surprise to you
mircea_popescu: hallo we are 12 and don't need to worry about our asshole.
mircea_popescu: copumpkin lol
BingoBoingo: Lol, derpy n00bs http://www.edelson.com/jay-edelson/
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mircea_popescu: obviously, as you'd imagine, my view is that the world is split among the assholes that admit it and the assholes that don't.
copumpkin: I actually don't entirely disagree
mircea_popescu: also asshole kinda looks like fasole,
mircea_popescu: which is romanian for beans
copumpkin: lol
mircea_popescu: which are empirically related
BingoBoingo: What is it with people trying to do anything in Illinois and not realizing you have to buy whatever jurisdiction you want to operate in, either outright or as a time-share
nubbins`: i made refried beans for the first time last week
nubbins`: i think i mentioned it at the time
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo maybe they has ? tbh the dumbledore lawyer guy sort-of evokes jackie chiles for me.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: do you have some sort of defense against replay attacks on mpex btw? what if I send a "sell X" command and someone sniffs it and sends it again?
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nubbins`: it's too bad they're called that in english, because it's kind of a rotten name for a food
mircea_popescu: copumpkin try it ?
copumpkin: all I get for now is "unrecognized signature" :)
mircea_popescu: nubbins` if that's your ocmplaint what about tossed salad ?
mircea_popescu: copumpkin clearly secure then :D
nubbins`: we call it garden salad here
mircea_popescu: but srsly, yes.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins`: as you can imagine, tossed salad brings jelly-covered anus to mind
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha omfg no fucking way
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i finally clicked your link. DO THESE ATTORNEYS EVEN LEAFT!
mircea_popescu: s/ATTORNEYS/ATTORNYES
nubbins`: ATTRNOYES
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: will I get some sort of confirmation when the key is accepted?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: See, like the Groupons of the Illinois legal game
mircea_popescu: copumpkin yeah
copumpkin: cool
Azelphur: mircea_popescu: what's your opinion on the whole gox thing, think they'll get back up after a while? :P
copumpkin watches MPOE crash to 0.000000001
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo does that page look as broken to you as it does to me or is it just a case of "our designer made it look good in chrome"
mircea_popescu: Azelphur you can freely trade mtgox debt for bitcoinica debt on a 1:1 parity
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: keybase.io, does that look like something you'd use?
mircea_popescu: or any other parity your favourite rng suggests.
Azelphur: fun
Azelphur: so no, then xD
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: They used some javascript in the layout it seems. Works ok in the factory firefox install, not in the useful firefox install though
Azelphur: I was a plonker and bought gox debt
Azelphur: \o/
mircea_popescu: copumpkin "Keybase will be a public directory of publicly auditable public keys. All paired, for convenience, with unique usernames."
mircea_popescu: explain ?
mircea_popescu: in like, nonretard english.
mircea_popescu: "I graduated cum laude with a degree in philosophy from Brandeis University and received my J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School"
copumpkin: as far as I can tell, their goals are: 1) provide a standard mechanism to link online accounts in a crpytographically secure way that doesn't require trust of their servers 2) make gpg more user-friendly
mircea_popescu: dude brandeis is where the mass governor's escorts go to school.
copumpkin: so they have a website that lets you link online profiles and a command-line tool that talks to the site and calls gpg
copumpkin: ultimately, they're mostly a fancier keyserver
mircea_popescu: i guess.
BingoBoingo: I know. People who care go to SIU.
copumpkin: Azelphur: pl0nk
mircea_popescu: copumpkin so why do i want to use them ?
Azelphur: yup
Azelphur: I'm 97 BTC deep in gox, bought at ~0.14 (so 15 BTC)
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I dunno, they're pretty, and seem to provide some nice identity linkage stuff that seems handy. Otherwise, not much point :)
copumpkin: I like the service
copumpkin: mostly because I want more people to use gpg
mircea_popescu: so basically what, they scrape social media sites for snippets signed by x sig ? a la gribble except spammier ?
copumpkin: yeah, basically
mircea_popescu: i cant see any harm in it
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mircea_popescu: i wouldn't personally use it because i don't actually use any social media sites.
copumpkin: ah, fair enough :)
mircea_popescu: except i guess twitter but i don't really gas if x is y or not there
kakobrekla: goes to twitter to tell the world, "i dun use social meddia situes"
nubbins`: so how do you know who's going to trivia night on tuesday?!
nubbins`: talk to people?
nubbins`: DO YOU EVEN INTERNET
mircea_popescu: hardly.
mircea_popescu: i mostly pay people to internet for me.
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mircea_popescu: which reminds me of the joke with the jooz.
nubbins`: ah, that's fair
copumpkin: I bet you're paying someone to type these messages right now, while someone else is giving you a rusty trombone
mircea_popescu: nah, that was earlier
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well Twitter's upside is that you can school someone in front of their internet friends and make their internet friends wonder why they associated in the first place.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i mostly use it because it's full of derps of the "holier than thou" school of assholery.
mircea_popescu: i like those.
gesell1: BingoBoingo mircea_popescu I may go knock on Jay's door on monday
mircea_popescu: but anyway, one day when i'm rich i'll splurge and get myself a smartphone
copumpkin: lol
BingoBoingo: gesell1: Who the hell is Jay?
MisterE: fuck smartphones
mircea_popescu: and then the whole universe of social media sites will lay open before me
copumpkin: sounds awesome
MisterE: I'm in front of a computer enough
MisterE: I dont need one with me
BingoBoingo: Eh, I used to have smartphones.
copumpkin: I have a smartphone but I hate using it
mircea_popescu: gesell1 aite.
gesell1: BingoBoingo: the lawyer you linked too
copumpkin: iphone4, so slow it's too unpleasant to use
nubbins`: copumpkin: there's an easy solution there ;p
copumpkin: I made the mistake of installing ios7
mircea_popescu: gesell1 is he actually smart irl ?
copumpkin: and now it's unusably slow
MisterE: I look around me and everyone's face is buried in their phones I think its sad
copumpkin: so I just don't do anything on it
gesell1: mircea_popescu: i have no idea. does he need to be?
nubbins`: copumpkin, generally it's less of a good idea to update ios after new hardware comes out.
BingoBoingo: gesell1: Ah, that one. I just prefer the lower parts of the state.
copumpkin: except, err, make phone calls
mircea_popescu: MisterE ikr? at least they could have the decency to get the salmon colored models.
copumpkin: nubbins`: yeah yeah, but they don't let us downgrade, so oh well :)
nubbins`: :D
nubbins`: aren't you glad you bought in?
mircea_popescu: gesell1 yes, it usually helps if the lawyer putting together a cas is smart.
MisterE: my GF's iP 4 runs iOS 7 fine
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is why I only use lawyers with Drive throughs.
copumpkin: MisterE: I hear it gets better with the latest 7.* update where you can disable effects
copumpkin: but mine is painfully slow
gesell1: well so i will find out monday
mircea_popescu: copumpkin can it boil an egg at least ?
MisterE: I dunno it's the GFs and I dont go there
copumpkin: nope :(
mircea_popescu: gesell1 be sure to report bacl :D
MisterE: last thing I want is to support her phone
gesell1: is there a problem if I pursue mtgox from 3 different lawyers at once?
kakobrekla: but you are supporting here
kakobrekla: her*
MisterE: lol you're suing Gox?
kakobrekla: and so apple.
MisterE: talk abotu throwing good money after bad
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i blame ever for the apple.
mircea_popescu: MisterE i'd be much surprised if the lawyer charges anything.
gesell1: MisterE: no im just in the initial stages of contacting each and every collective that is gathering to sue
MisterE: pro bono?
kakobrekla: i would not even consider iphone using female fyi.
mircea_popescu: he's in it for positioning, which is strategically sound
mircea_popescu: MisterE no, just 99.9x% of any eventual proceeds.
mircea_popescu: gesell1 how much did you manage to donate via gox ?
MisterE: oh, I doubt there will be anything of value left for creditors
MisterE: but if there is you can be sure lawyers will get theirs
MisterE: donate lol
gesell1: mircea_popescu: over 100btc
kakobrekla: you gonna lose more coins suing than gain
MisterE: ouch
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Around here most lawyers handling those sorts of complaints work on contingency, so they only get paid if they win
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the way the legal profession works in the us is that sometimes lawyers take cases for free, when they figure the bread is buttered on the other side.
kakobrekla: yeah but paid from where
kakobrekla: with what
kakobrekla: from who
nubbins`: from the booty
BingoBoingo: kakobrekla: Asbestos companies usually
nubbins`: sort of like a mortgage advisor
nubbins`: they work for "free"
nubbins`: where free = a portion of your mortgage
kakobrekla: the only way out of here is bernankecoin the way i see it.
gesell1: pitty, i could find no bernankecoin
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mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the lawyer wants bitcoin fame. that's free to him, as he has no cases anyway.
mircea_popescu: a noob lawyer with a shitty jd and no connection is basically equally qualified as a plumber.
kakobrekla: so they are not really getting paid as you said but whoreing out
mircea_popescu: and if he actually manages to get some dough from tibanne, all the better.
nubbins`: gesell1, it's called bernankoin i think
nubbins`: ;;google bernankoin
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mircea_popescu: not like his "clients" will see any of it.
mircea_popescu: judging by the school he went to, he's being supported by either generous parents or generous husband.
mircea_popescu: so it all makes sense.
BingoBoingo: I dunno of any person in Illinois who while certified as a plummer and holding a JD would pratice law over practicing plumbing
gesell1: mircea_popescu: at the moment there appears to be only a few places to go. or only a few lawyers persuing the issue
BingoBoingo: Plumbing just pays better than law
mircea_popescu: gesell1 i wasn't saying you sohu;dn't, by any means
mircea_popescu: just explaining how the thing works.
mircea_popescu: anyway : their top claim to fame is that they settled an amazon cas for ~150k
mircea_popescu: which went to charity.
mircea_popescu: bush league does not begin to describe.
KRS-One: I have a friend who is a roofer who makes as much as an attorney and then some.
nubbins`: skilled trades, man
KRS-One: he does the easy shit and runs a crew
mircea_popescu: (they also represented the Blagojevich dood. also for free, also to no particular effect)
BingoBoingo: I really don't understand the point of retaining an unconnected lawyer
nubbins`: that said, his body will be wrecked by the time he's 45
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you know blag ?
nubbins`: and he'll be taking orders from a guy ten years his junior
moiety: is it just me or does that lawyer dude look a wee bit like simon cowel?
gesell1: i assumed/hoped that the class action litigation that gets the most attention from the community will wind up with the most resources to devote to getting possible results
KRS-One: nubbins` you aint kiddin..except he's the business owner
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I'm the other end of the state.
BingoBoingo: The feudalism end
KRS-One: he is real dumb and needs me to get a roofing license (take exams and shit) said I can make $100K/yr without doing a thing just holding the license.
mircea_popescu: gesell1 i think you grossly misrepresent the substance of the sort of clueless idiots that still; had btc on gox.
mircea_popescu: it's hardly a community and it definitely has no resources.
nubbins`: KRS-One, might as well.
KRS-One: i have to speak to an attorney to see what kind of liability it opens me up to..supposedly i can do it with no risk or liability.
gesell1: mircea_popescu: there were $40m worth of BTC waiting on Gox on one reddit comment thread alone. that could create resources
mircea_popescu: money you don't have does not create resources, no.
KRS-One: nubbins`: he has been using his dad's general contractor's license but his dad is real old now and wont be doing it much longer
BingoBoingo: KRS-One: In the US the only thing you can acquire with a license is risk and liability
KRS-One: so bam this might be nice coin
KRS-One: BingoBoingo: i know I am skeptical
mircea_popescu: “Since we’ve been sitting here on the phone, I’ve seen three emails come in.”
mircea_popescu: ahahah how epic is that.
KRS-One: it nice to know a roofer..i got a new roof put on my house for real cheap, just labor and materials.
moiety: this is why its good to know a mechanic too
KRS-One: took forever to get him to do it tho
KRS-One: moiety: yep. marine and diesel mechanics make most i think
KRS-One: i was stupid. i went to college.
nubbins`: i had my roof redone last summer
nubbins`: wait, no, summer before
nubbins`: fucking mansard roofs
nubbins`: $$$$
BingoBoingo: Well, the boring olf gasoline car mechanic that fixed the mess I made trying to fix that saturn made decent money for his time.
nubbins`: "know what'd be a good idea? if none of this shit was right angles"
moiety: i think my roof might fall off. i saw slates outside on the ground
mircea_popescu: moiety maybe your roof buries some pets
BingoBoingo: moiety: You and your fancy european roofs. Here shingles are made out of asphalt and cat litter
moiety: lolololol
mircea_popescu: my shingles are made of detcord and baby tears.
BingoBoingo: lol
moiety: I'm scared to see your homes....
BingoBoingo: detsord would never work with the weather here.
nubbins`: my home is quaint, but only because of the lack of detcord and kitty litter
moiety: did you guys see the £150 house that gets rented out for milk?
BingoBoingo: No, but I've considered buying a block of $200 houses in detroit and starting a farm
mircea_popescu: moiety breast milk ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo well detcord would make your house move somewhere else then
KRS-One: mircea_popescu: depending on the roof, the shingles arent what keeps the water out. main protection for a roof comes from the tar paper that covers the wood. shingles only keep the sun from runing the tar paper.
KRS-One: if it werent for the sun and other things you dont even need shingles.
mircea_popescu: KRS-One that may be generallky true, but i come from transylvania, which invented wood shingle roofing.
mircea_popescu: allow me to show you :
moiety: mircea_popescu: it doesn't specify.......
moiety: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2513154/Farmer-builds-house-just-150-using-materials-skips--current-tenant-pays-rent-MILK.html
BingoBoingo: KRS-One: Most of the world operates on the assumption shingles move the water
KRS-One: thats what i have, wood shingle..cedar. Its one of the best you can get.
KRS-One: BingoBoingo yep
nubbins`: BingoBoingo: you'd need to truck in soil
mircea_popescu: http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biserica_de_lemn_din_Cizer
ozbot: Biserica de lemn din Cizer - Wikipedia
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mircea_popescu: 230 year old, that thing. all wood. no metal.
KRS-One: the BEST ROOF: flat deck (gravel)
KRS-One: wow nice
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Or to many other places. The most recent local tornado didn't come within a mile, but other weird wind anamolies still had things impacting the roof in interestng ways
KRS-One: thats really neat to have history behind your home.
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nubbins`: the top of my roof is tar pitch
nubbins`: sides are shingled
KRS-One: i dont know what tar pitch is
KRS-One: hnn
BingoBoingo: Maybe I should get the next roof done in pitchblend!!!
nubbins`: they use a flamethrower to melt coal tar all over it
moiety: mircea_popescu: that's so cute. it just needs broadband and its perfect!
KRS-One: ah yes flatdek?
KRS-One: flat deck
nubbins`: sandwiched with layers of tar paper
nubbins`: prolly the same thing you're thinking of
KRS-One: thats the best type of roof to have..many commercial buildings have that
nubbins`: self-healing
KRS-One: yea
nubbins`: as long as you have any amount of summer
KRS-One: i've heard horror stories where roofers fell off and into the hot kettle of tar
nubbins`: popular for the row houses here, most of which have flat roofs
KRS-One: a popular one here in Florida are concrete shingle..i did some roofing when i was younger..talk about hard work.
nubbins`: looks nice tho
KRS-One: gets so hot on the roof tops you can get burned by just picking up your hammer on the metal side
KRS-One: you have to be a tough bastard to work in roofing year round..i think doing concrete work was actually easier.
KRS-One: i did both for a while..they both sucked.
KRS-One: those jobs were my main motivator for going to college.
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nubbins`: re: russian cargo planes landing in crimea
nubbins`: "Astakhov said the people in the planes refused to identify themselves and waved off customs officials, saying they didn't require their services."
mircea_popescu: they sound exactly like bitcoin people.
mircea_popescu: also, this shit's pretty epic:
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/10/you_are_the_98.html
ozbot: The Last Psychiatrist: You Are The 98%
mircea_popescu: this chick should be in my harem already.
mircea_popescu: "We need a third party!" Come on, do you think the media will allow you to have a third party? John Anderson, Ross Perot, Ralph Nader-- they let them through to "show" third party candidates aren't any more serious than Howard Stern when he ran for governor. Poor Ron Paul pulls in more people than porn but he can't get a break, sorry buddy, 100 years too late for your kind. There's a difference between what you ne
mircea_popescu: ed and what you want, and the media will always, relentlessly give you what you want. Do you know why you have such poor candidates every single election? Because you want them, you want someone you can easily judge for some sexual indiscretion or because they called latinos chicanos. "Well, that matters to us!" Then you got what you asked for.
mircea_popescu: · · · · · · · · · · logtest · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ☟︎
nubbins`: yeah, read that
nubbins`: depressing more than anything
mircea_popescu: i dun live there, so to me it's mostly funny
nubbins`: it's funny to you because you're rich ;D
mircea_popescu: and an asshole.
nubbins`: you don't think the people shouting over each other at general assemblies were assholes?!
mircea_popescu: no. assholes are never idiots,
mircea_popescu: and idiots aren't really assholes, they're just idiots.
KRS-One: not at all
mircea_popescu: like you know, a rock falling down a cliff isn't a car.
mircea_popescu: even if it does move.
kakobrekla: dam kids breaking the logs again
nubbins`: what next, my lips and anus aren't a hot dog?
mircea_popescu: i wonder if hot chick lips and anus hot-dogs are a delicacy in china.
mircea_popescu: i suppose throw in the vulva too.
decimation: mircea - these guys appear to be curating btc exchange data http://www.netagio.com/market-data
mircea_popescu: "guaranteed 13 to 19yo"
nubbins`: well, ya need a bit of salt
mircea_popescu: decimation you know who runs it /
BingoBoingo: Eh, seriously Russia being in Crimea is not interesting at all. The only interesting point is how long they can go without commiting regular forces to the endeavor.
nubbins`: anecdote: a friend was approached by a young (~13yo) girl asking for a cigarette. friend says "you're too young to smoke"
nubbins`: girl says "lick my salty piss-flaps"
mircea_popescu: decimation pounds and euro ? i already got a euro future and what are these pounds
decimation: yeah http://www.goldmoney.com/company/press-releases/goldmoney-group-launches-new-bitcoin-focused-company-in-the-uk
decimation: it's the goldmoney guy
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decimation: he's seen the future and he wants in on bitcoin
mircea_popescu: decimation do you knw him ?
decimation: no I'm just an interested bystander
mircea_popescu: well unless he somehow finds his way here...
BingoBoingo: Eh, when people too young ask me for cigarettes I usually tell them I have cancer and ask them if they really want a cigarette.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` the obvious response was to offer the whole pack for a bj
BingoBoingo: Anymore a bj is cheaper than a pack of smokes
decimation: I suspect this guy is involved somehow, he is associated with goldmoney http://jamesturkblog.blogspot.com/
mircea_popescu: i kind-of wonder how long reddit will take to digest teh latest mpoe release.
mircea_popescu: my money's kind-of on "never" tbh.
mircea_popescu: o, james turk, goldbug guy. makes sense.
decimation: yeah he's a hardcore goldbug and tries to cash in on that audience
decimation: but he also appears to be interested in bitcoin
mircea_popescu: well... maybe one day he gets here.
mircea_popescu: im still looking for someone to run a delivered gold future.
decimation: yeah it seems that this netagio is a spinoff of some kind. I'm surprised that he or his staff hasn't contacted you
decimation: I think they are building a good foundation before going big, unlike some out there...
mircea_popescu: on a lark i'd venture a guess that <1% of irl businesses have a truely global internet listening program going.
mircea_popescu: it'd be certainly within what they can afford, financially
mircea_popescu: sadly, it's not within what they can afford intellectually.
decimation: Oh no, they spend $$$ on facebook monitors
mircea_popescu: and so it goes, lots of deaf and blind
decimation: but that's not listening to anything...
mircea_popescu: decimation i suppose it's like with everything else, blow the website budget on css.
mircea_popescu: incidentally i suppose you've stumbled on a perfectly valid business model, the translators among WoTs will be tomorrow's lawyers.
mircea_popescu: definitely as obscenely well paid.
decimation: well, each big corp has a WoT that generally consists of the CEO's drinking buddies
decimation: it's surprising that the internet hasn't linked those WoTs...
BingoBoingo: Bonus, it pisses off the liberal arts majors because they can only translate wrong languages
mircea_popescu: it is.
mircea_popescu: huge market there.
mircea_popescu: in point of fact, most of the power women have in western society comes strictly from that bridging role.
mircea_popescu: it's not the unshaven idiots blathering on tv about "Rights" and other stuff that do anything.
mircea_popescu: it's the sluts that fuck different ceos.
mircea_popescu: that's 99% of female power.
decimation: it shows up as a virtue as well
mircea_popescu: well it is a virtue.
decimation: most effective female 'leaders' I have seen are school-marm types who know how to connect the right people and step away
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mircea_popescu: but about 1bn dollars spent on "women in tech"-esque programs dedicated to highschooler girls would return about the same net value for the cause as about 600k spent on "fuck as many powerful people as you possibly can take, as well as you possibly can, starting today." programs for the same.
mircea_popescu: and one of the best indications that this is actually the correct approach would be that the impotent-by-design feminist movement will readily recognise it as the ultimate evil.
moiety: you make it sound like you cant do anything as a girl without opening your legs :(
decimation: well, you can call them "finishing schools", like they used to have
mircea_popescu: moiety you can do plenty of things that ultimately won't matter.
asciilifeform: re: keybase.io - this was the idiocy that wants your private keys
asciilifeform: 'use gpg online!1!1'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not in copumpkin's retelling. i was giving him space to see if he mentiones it.
asciilifeform: hah
decimation: maybe you can host your key in a vps with a web login
mircea_popescu: i'm like... you know, a slut. i give people space :)
decimation: I think this has been linked before: http://pando.com/2014/01/23/the-techtopus-how-silicon-valleys-most-celebrated-ceos-conspired-to-drive-down-100000-tech-engineers-wages/
moiety: not much point in trying anything if it ultimately doesn't matter
decimation: it's an example of a real-life WoT between silicon valley CEOs
mircea_popescu: moiety maybe you enjoy it ?
decimation: "Bill Campbell (Chairman of Intuit Board of Directors, Co-Lead Director of Apple, and advisor to Google) was also involved in the Google-Intel agreement, as reflected in an email exchange from 2006 in which Bill Campbell agreed with Jonathan Rosenberg (Google Advisor to the Office of CEO and former Senior Vice President of Product Management) that Google should call [Intel CEO] Paul Otellini before making an offer to an Intel employee,
decimation: regardless of whether the Intel employee first approached Google."
asciilifeform: 'wage theft' ?
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decimation: shockingly thousands of beta engineers are willing to accept what they are given
mircea_popescu: the irony here being that an industry;s stability can be best measured by the wot divergence (well really, by wot graph isolation)
mircea_popescu: once gaps get bridged "industry best practices" develop,
mircea_popescu: and the thing is going down in flames faster than people can ditch it.
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decimation: of course the leftists are having a fit because this particular WoT ignores thier votes
mircea_popescu: of course.
mircea_popescu: wots aren't votes.
mircea_popescu: in fact, wots are not only different from votes, but really much better
mircea_popescu: w is v v2.
nubbins`: <moiety> not much point in trying anything if it ultimately doesn't matter <<< "No, Donny, these men are nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of."
mircea_popescu: talk about bitcoin-mediated disruption of the electroal system
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asciilifeform: http://pando.com/2014/02/24/knightscopes-new-robotic-law-enforcer-is-like-staring-at-the-demise-of-humanity/
ozbot: Knightscope’s new robotic law enforcer is like staring at the demise of humanity | PandoDaily
nubbins`: http://imgur.com/LDMRgLX etc
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
decimation: Oh, I was hoping someone was going to make a real RoboCop
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decimation: not some lameass webcam
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mircea_popescu: "work in pairs to protect each other"
mircea_popescu: now how does this work ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In a twist confounding most authors of robot oppressor scifi the boards with critical operational components in the bots are varied from unit to unit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if the builder had half a brain, it's a countermeasure re: gps 'meaconing'
asciilifeform: link 2 bots via spread-spectrum whatever, if one thinks he suddenly 'flew' somewhere, and the other says 'no'
mircea_popescu: i can't begin to imagine how they figure this thing has a fucking chance.
asciilifeform: surveillance camera on wheels, with megaphone for shouting orders, what's not to like
decimation: yeah they are going to end up in a chop shop in the ghetto within 10 minutes of operation
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Remember the Russia-Georgia conflict... GPS can go dark
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: gps can and does go dark at your nearest truck stop
asciilifeform: ;;google gps jammer
gribble: GPS jammer - Cell Phone Jammers: <http://www.skybuying.com/category-179-b0.html>; Wholesales GPS Jammer - GPS Jamming - GPS Signal Jammer: <http://www.jammerfromchina.com/categories/GPS_Jammers/>; GPS Jammer Signal Jammer Blocker - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfPc8tH8vBY>
asciilifeform: ;google meaconing
asciilifeform: ;;google meaconing
gribble: Meaconing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaconing>; CHAPTER 4 (FM 24-33): <https://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm24-33/fm243_5.htm>; meaconing - definition of meaconing by the Free Online Dictionary ...: <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/meaconing>
decimation: http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htecm/articles/20130820.aspx
ozbot: Electronic Weapons: Making The World Unsafe For GPS Jammers
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform more's the point... they can't make supermarket carts with working wheels
nubbins`: Crime has a $1 trillion impact on the American economy, according to Santana Li. “If we can show that we can literally cut that in half, we’re going to have every mayor in the country calling us,” he says.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: All reasons why civ security bots will bow down to people with compasses, maps, and lasers
mircea_popescu: andthey're going to somehow make a 100kg self moving robot
nubbins`: soooo, it's equipped with a sword?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck happens if it steps in gum
nubbins`: it starts shooting, obv
mircea_popescu: orly ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it steps in gum << $100/hr public servant with wheelbarrow sent to fetch it, clearly.
decimation: it's not fair to have a WoT of robots that ignore the votes of the disenfranchised
mircea_popescu: this sounds all so distinctly soviet.
BingoBoingo: Well, if pepper spray counteracts rapists, spraypaint counteracts robots.
mircea_popescu: speaking of pipe dreamz :
mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z0WmWUT2rM
ozbot: RObotzi.S03.Ep13.Sugstanta - YouTube
moiety: <mircea_popescu> "work in pairs to protect each other"
moiety: 03:38 <mircea_popescu> now how does this work ? << i think like this http://imgur.com/gallery/snoMroC
asciilifeform: incidentally,
mircea_popescu: whoa she's good.
asciilifeform: when deploying gps jammers across an area
asciilifeform: don't be dumb like the iraqi army
asciilifeform: remember school physics
asciilifeform: think 'constructive interference'
asciilifeform: a fat, loud mast is a target
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well simple solution is allowing a slug of metal to meet a satellite
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: people who can afford to plug a satellite tend not to get 'democratized' in the first place
asciilifeform: this advice is for the rest of us.
mircea_popescu: gaddafi definitely coud have afforded to plug a satelite.
mircea_popescu: he chose to plug ukrainian nurses instead.
mircea_popescu: old age does that. back when he was still sane everyone put up with him. including rice.
mircea_popescu: (who, if anyone forgot, he propositioned quite openly for a spot in his harem)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well consider that the payload necessary to neutralize a GPS satellite can probably be measured in a single digit number of grams. Even many "tactical" missiles if stripped for the locker room could prolly do the job.
asciilifeform: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7Ylayo7VkTE/UeViOxR4CPI/AAAAAAAACmQ/ZQsXIO6l_cY/s1600/Picture65.png
nubbins`: when rice visited bolivia, they gave her a guitar with a coca leaf lacquered onto it
decimation: hey did you guys behind the iron curtain watch Krtek the mole when you were little?
asciilifeform: decimation: i had the book!
asciilifeform: still got it
asciilifeform: translated at 'крот в городе'
asciilifeform: (mole in the city)
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what that is.
decimation: sad news, even communist propaganda cartoons can be ruined by apple http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-15/apple-helps-czech-mole-enter-21-billion-u-s-toy-market.html
asciilifeform: i think in the animated version he gets to fuck
asciilifeform: (post-soviet kid's tv is an odd place)
decimation: the videos are widely available in the us but no one knows about it
decimation: lol that's messe dup
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: If only hypercard was still a thing
nubbins`: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTrWQ2vanzg
ozbot: Melvins - 'Nude With Boots' (Full Album HD) - YouTube
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it can still be a thing at your house. grab the emulator + tarball from my site & have fun.
nubbins`: ^ named after a picture mp linked once
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mircea_popescu: i have left my mark on popular culture
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Why. The SE/30 is dead, but I still have a flock of MacClassics
mircea_popescu: pustular cupure
mircea_popescu: whatever
nubbins`: the second one, in this case
nubbins`: unpopular unculture, even
decimation: ascii did you even find a passable lisp machine emulator
asciilifeform: decimation: which lisp machine
BingoBoingo: And once I care enough to fix the SE/30 it will be a thing again
asciilifeform: decimation: there's 1 major emulator for each major species
decimation: the symbolics machine
asciilifeform: decimation: the only one that even begins to work is the one by symbolics shortly before it croaked
BingoBoingo: One of my regrets though is not picking up an Apple IIGS, because that looks like that could have lead to incredible fun
asciilifeform: ;;google snap4 symbolics ☟︎
gribble: CLiki: VLM_on_Linux: <http://www.cliki.net/VLM_on_Linux>; public ynniv / opengenera Octocat-spinner-32 - GitHub: <https://github.com/ynniv/opengenera/blob/master/notes/org.advogato.org-johnw.txt>; public ynniv / opengenera Octocat-spinner-32 - GitHub: <https://github.com/ynniv/opengenera/blob/master/notes/patrick-collison.txt>
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asciilifeform: ;;google symbolics lisp pirate bay
gribble: Copyleft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft>; Programmer Mega Book Pack- Part 1 (download torrent) - TPB: <http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6405192/Programmer_Mega_Book_Pack-_Part_1>; COMMON LISP: A Gentle Introduction to Symbolic Computation: <http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/LispBook/book.pdf>
asciilifeform: ;;google symbolics open genera pirate bay
gribble: Belize General Information- Facts (and Maps) - Ambergris Caye: <http://ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/factsbze.html>; comments - Reddit: <http://www.reddit.com/comments/1a35lu>; The Soul Travelers-Illuminati & Occult documentary ... - The Pirate Bay: <http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6076927/The_Soul_Travelers-Illuminati___Occult_documentary>
decimation: okay I might to some dumpster-diving to find the thing
asciilifeform: fuck this
asciilifeform: http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/3769989/Symbolics_Open_Genera_2.0_for_Alpha_-_complete_package_with_Lisp
ozbot: Symbolics Open Genera 2.0 for Alpha - complete package with Lisp (download torrent) - TPB
BingoBoingo: ;;google opengenera HP alpha
gribble: Symbolics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolics>; Symbolics - Internet Archive: <https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_symbolics>; Symbolics | The (λ) Lambda meme - all things Lisp: <http://www.ymeme.com/symbolics>
asciilifeform: there we go
decimation: heh thanks
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asciilifeform: first comment in that piratebay link is dave schmidt
BingoBoingo: ;;google WOps.txt
gribble: Urban Dictionary: wop: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wop>; Molly Wop (MidgeCassidy) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/MidgeCassidy>; BRUNO MARS lyrics: <http://www.azlyrics.com/b/brunomars.html>
asciilifeform: the last man of symbolics corp.
decimation: ah so you have to run tru64
asciilifeform: decimation: not for snap4
BingoBoingo: decimation: Wy is that a prolem
asciilifeform: that's the unofficial linux port
asciilifeform: (x86-64)
asciilifeform: the pb link is the original dec alpha disk
asciilifeform: you'll need it for the sources.
decimation: ahh I see
asciilifeform: thing came with ~99% of its source.
BingoBoingo: DEC Alpha, least depreciating hardware investment ever
asciilifeform: when i was at schmidt's house i offered him $BIG for schematics
asciilifeform: he wouldn't budge
asciilifeform: he doesn't own the company
asciilifeform: probate court did (at the time)
asciilifeform: the idiot who snapped it up at bankruptcy auction died a while ago
BingoBoingo: Well, racialslur.txt
decimation: well, what about the idiot's probate?
asciilifeform: then an mit prof with nsa connections paid the idiot's debts
asciilifeform: and now owns it
asciilifeform: and that's all that was heard of it since
decimation: he probably thinks it's his ticket to get rich
decimation: like everyone else in academia
asciilifeform: decimation: nope
asciilifeform: here's the real dirt
asciilifeform: http://www.usaspending.gov/search?form_fields={"recipient_name":"symbolics+","recip_state":null,"recip_congdist":null,"recip_country":null,"recipient_duns":["966978090","873185821"],"spending_cat":null,"dept":null,"extent_competed":null,"psc_code":null,"naics_code":null,"fyear":null}&sort_by=date&per_page=25
ozbot: USASpending.gov
asciilifeform: it brings in, ~50k / yr in eternal pentagon contract
mircea_popescu: so it's worth like 600k
decimation: sounds shady as hell to me
asciilifeform: and is, in general, 'too much fun' of a technology to be turned loose
mircea_popescu: · · · · · · · · · · logtest · · · · · · · · · · ·
mircea_popescu: yay!
mircea_popescu: logs no longer suck! all hail kakobrekla, fixer of sucks.
asciilifeform: the $5k circa 2010 - that's my old employer.
asciilifeform: whom i talked into buying an actual copy of OG
asciilifeform: came with dec alpha. for 'free'.
asciilifeform: incidentally, the original mit lisp machine sources / schematics are bsd-licensed now.
asciilifeform: http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/
ozbot: Retrocomputing - MIT CADR Lisp Machines
decimation: interesting
asciilifeform: http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/cadr-zmacs.jpg
nubbins`: bed; nite
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decimation: so reading your blog, it seems that MIT eventually went to Scheme to teach young EE's how to code microcontrollers
mircea_popescu: yeah, ima go with nubbins`
asciilifeform: decimation: you misread
asciilifeform: they ditched it
asciilifeform: a few years ago
asciilifeform: it was an epic surrender to derp
decimation: yeah I saw that, but presumably before that someone decided scheme was the way to go
asciilifeform: sussman
asciilifeform: the original author of scheme
asciilifeform: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3312#comment-48558
ozbot: Why Did M.I.T. Switch from Scheme to Python? | Lambda the Ultimate
nubbins`: sorry man, king-size bed, only room for two ;)
decimation: more evidence of the surrender of original thinking to academic bureaucracy
decimation: I blame fiat
BingoBoingo: Let us all cook pasta noodles in a pressure cooker for 7 minutes, there must be NO better way to make glue!!!
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decimation: you also inspired me to look more closely into Forth
decimation: that is a beautiful language for microcontrollers
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mike_c: R.I.P. mpoe-bot... at least you went out with a bang.
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mike_c: http://trilema.com/2014/no-its-not-the-revenue/ << we're about to find out.
ozbot: No, it’s not the revenue. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42378 @ 0.00079073 = 33.5096 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.021399 = 0.214 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.0008369 = 4.6448 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.0008377 = 8.0419 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.0008377 = 3.1833 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 32 @ 0.05208062 = 1.6666 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 33 @ 0.082 = 2.706 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1 @ 0.10193047 BTC [-]
cazalla: first time creating a bet, why does the bet list me as having bet twice for a larger amount?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 212 @ 0.00559937 = 1.1871 BTC [+] {3}
KRS-One: take j00 money
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.0002 = 0.4 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 26 @ 0.05100769 = 1.3262 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00561 = 0.1122 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3697 @ 0.00083741 = 3.0959 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26385 @ 0.0008377 = 22.1027 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.5808 = 2.904 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.115696 = 0.5785 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 82 @ 0.09794722 = 8.0317 BTC [-] {16}
cazalla: KRS-One does someone else kick in the pad the bet when they are approved?
cazalla: to pad*
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.00051474 = 0.2574 BTC [-] {17}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.09400001 = 0.282 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 21 @ 0.08661902 = 1.819 BTC [+] {13}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0894 = 0.447 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13815 @ 0.0008377 = 11.5728 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 57 @ 0.00561 = 0.3198 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 32 @ 0.00561 = 0.1795 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00561 = 0.4208 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6139 @ 0.00084212 = 5.1698 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4626 @ 0.00084491 = 3.9086 BTC [+]
MisterE: btc-e down again :/
MisterE: and I want to sell
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.0515 = 1.133 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.0008444 = 1.5199 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20579 @ 0.00084417 = 17.3722 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 4 @ 0.13311598 = 0.5325 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5299 @ 0.00084491 = 4.4772 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.09000202 = 0.45 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28750 @ 0.00087258 = 25.0867 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 19 @ 0.0056099 = 0.1066 BTC [-]
FabianB: ;;ticker --currency eur --market all
gribble: MtGox BTCEUR last: 95.89175, vol: 0.00000000 | Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 405.35775, vol: 25090.63405584 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 399.99999, vol: 277.45636 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 406.1655, vol: 6636.95400000 | Volume-weighted last average: 405.478807636
FabianB: ;;calc 1/405.478807636
gribble: 0.00246622013572
FabianB: ;;calc 1/0.00220000
gribble: 454.545454545
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1500 @ 0.00050159 = 0.7524 BTC [-] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 25 @ 0.08386884 = 2.0967 BTC [-] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 34 @ 0.10595585 = 3.6025 BTC [+] {7}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 20 @ 0.05050525 = 1.0101 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 24 @ 0.13311598 = 3.1948 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.0008745 = 27.0221 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 12 @ 0.08325 = 0.999 BTC [-] {6}
ThickAsThieves: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/03/obama-warns-putin-over-ukraine-intervention-20143145518333568.html
ozbot: Obama warns Russia over Ukraine intervention - Europe - Al Jazeera English
ThickAsThieves: something about "warns Russia" bothers me... this isn't a 3rd world country he's warning
ThickAsThieves: oh nvm
ThickAsThieves: Options include skipping a G8 summit planned for this summer in Sochi, Russia, as well as trade limitations "and putting some commerce deals on hold," Al Jazeera's Jordan reports.
ThickAsThieves: Obama was just posting on reddit
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00555021 = 0.3053 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 50 @ 0.13311598 = 6.6558 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.000868 = 15.19 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell copumpkin your pubkey is unusable for some sort of reason.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
nubbins`: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z9e3l/bitcoins_warren_buffet_makes_8k_btc_profit_in/
ozbot: Bitcoin's Warren Buffet makes 8k BTC profit in February, halts options trading because of the lack o
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.0008702 = 16.1857 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: o look at that
mircea_popescu: o wow
mircea_popescu: $vwap s.mpoe
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00083806 high: 0.00087478 low: 0.000745 volume: 1421928 btc: 1191.6611664 7 day: average: 0.0008666 high: 0.0008982 low: 0.000745 volume: 7508070 btc: 6506.4808497 30 day: average: 0.00087779 high: 0.00096 low: 0.000745 volume: 29347907 btc: 25761.1538897
mircea_popescu: learn something every day.
nubbins`: most days, anyway
mircea_popescu: nubbins` are you nugyar ?
nubbins`: i'll never tell!
mircea_popescu: lolk
nubbins`: fairly eye-catching as far as headlines go though, hey?
mircea_popescu: i'll bet you 1k atcs it never gets over 10 positive vote differeential.
nubbins`: i'll take that bet once i get around to generating an actual address that starts with 1AltcoinSucksCocks
mircea_popescu: o wait you're the atc hater
mircea_popescu: my bad
nubbins`: heh.
mircea_popescu: what altscamcoin of your choice would you take instead ?
nubbins`: hate is such a strong word
mircea_popescu: ya but hater isn't.
nubbins`: the opposite, even
mircea_popescu: rght
nubbins`: ah, they're all the same. does a horse prefer one gopher hole over another?
mircea_popescu: so you've rendered yourself unplaypayable ?
nubbins`: well i'm still heavily exposed in both fiat and btc, so not quite
mircea_popescu: unPLAYpayable
nubbins`: oh, i misread
nubbins`: i do accept canadian tire money, but it's harder to find in yurop
mircea_popescu: da fucxk is that
nubbins`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Tire_money
ozbot: Canadian Tire money - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
nubbins`: it's a thing.
mircea_popescu: holy shit
nubbins`: not unheard-of to find private businesses that accept it
nubbins`: the quintessential canadian scrip
mircea_popescu: i had no idea
mircea_popescu: "but is not considered a private currency"
nubbins`: nod. "a part of our heritage"
mircea_popescu: because why
nubbins`: because CT isn't as brave as they'd like to be
mircea_popescu: but i mean... it gets redeemed and circulated right ?
mircea_popescu: what else?
nubbins`: yeah
mircea_popescu: The coupon rate earned was initially 5% of the eligible purchase price but was subsequently lowered to 3%, then to 1.4%, and now is 0.4%.
mircea_popescu: lmao why
nubbins`: not unusual to find yourself in the lineup at canadian tire, stuck behind some asshole buying a snowblower with canadian tire money
nubbins`: do you know how long it takes to count out nine hundred dollars in 10 cent bills?!
mircea_popescu: o holy shi
mircea_popescu: t
mircea_popescu: and yes i do. i come from romania, remember ?
nubbins`: HEH
nubbins`: i often wondered why south korea hasn't revalued their currency
nubbins`: no subunits; everything is "won", with 1000 won ~= $1
mircea_popescu: more than the value per se, romania is still to this day a cash economy.
mircea_popescu: i have never used a plastic card to pay for any purchase during my entire stay here.
mircea_popescu: i am the 99% in this regard.
nubbins`: sk too, at least until mobile phone payments started around 2007
nubbins`: it's unusual for canadians to carry any amount of cash
nubbins`: i am the 1% in this regard
mircea_popescu: haha
nubbins`: (and no other)
mircea_popescu: how to be a real gangsta :
mircea_popescu: carry fifteen hundred dolla in cash and fifteen hundred dolla worth of gun
nubbins`: heh
nubbins`: i should get a firearms license
nubbins`: i want to learn to hunt
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5801 BTC [-]
nubbins`: lel, first comment on that reddit post
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/03/1/7016760/
mircea_popescu: lol
nubbins`: bbl fixing hot water tank
mircea_popescu: Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
mircea_popescu: Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
mircea_popescu: Everybody knows that the war is over
mircea_popescu: Everybody knows the good guys lost
mircea_popescu: Everybody knows the fight was fixed
mircea_popescu: The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
mircea_popescu: That's how it goes
mircea_popescu: Everybody knows
mircea_popescu: and now with music : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg
chetty: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bho9HeUCIAAg9Sw.jpg
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09738672 = 0.1948 BTC [+] {2}
cazalla: mircea_popescu: when a bet i created is added to the site, why does it show duplicate bets coming from my address?
mircea_popescu: cazalla you mean this http://bitbet.us/faq/#21 ?
cazalla: guess i should pay more attention next time :)
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: o look at that, cyprus govt collapsed overnight ☟︎
nubbins`: cohen is fucking amazing, ever read him?
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
nubbins`: the music is great, but the poetry...!
mircea_popescu: i don't care for his politics,
mircea_popescu: but yes, poetry i read.
wao-ender: lol http://dorktech.com/where-did-butterflylabs-go/
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 42 @ 0.00560989 = 0.2356 BTC [+]
wao-ender: i'm laughing so hard right now
mircea_popescu: wao-ender https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/438993301698793472
mircea_popescu: internally they call it the mpocalypse.
wao-ender: why that term?
mircea_popescu: guess.
wao-ender: had hard night, one hint please
mircea_popescu: nubbins` aaand it's burried. you couldn't tell them if you wanted to.
mircea_popescu: wao-ender we're having this little private war, had for a while. mp versus the idiots.
mircea_popescu: the idiots are currently getting reamed with fireworks.
wao-ender: *rearmed?
wao-ender: hmm
mircea_popescu: ;;ud reamed
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Reamed | Reamed. To Ream, to annihilate the ass-hole of your sexual partner while performing anal sex. After I reamed her ass last night I feel L337 as hell. by Griffin  ...
ozbot: Urban Dictionary: Reamed
wao-ender: lol reamed
wao-ender: http://cs323724.userapi.com/v323724585/2c3c/TVDm5Ors-i4.jpg
mircea_popescu: anyway, let's pull a little chain here.
mircea_popescu: hey Luke-Jr, how about that bfl ?
mircea_popescu: (you know you're going on the list of accessories for that prosecution, right ?)
mircea_popescu: better spend the 30% left of those savings and anything you can borrow to retain counsel now, before the freeze orders start raining down.
mircea_popescu: you'll need all the help you can get propping up the "ignorant idiot without a clue" defense.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.050505 = 0.5051 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 11 @ 0.13311598 = 1.4643 BTC [-]
ThickAsThieves: so BFL never shipped those pci boards that were guaranteed for xmas deliver?
ThickAsThieves: color me serbprized
ThickAsThieves: these recaptchas seem to be getting more impossible
mircea_popescu: awwwh.
ThickAsThieves: http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/03/01/live-blogging-berkshires-earnings-buffetts-annual-letter/?mod=WSJBlog
ozbot: Live Blogging Berkshire’s Earnings & Buffett’s Annual Letter - MoneyBeat - WSJ
ThickAsThieves: http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/2013ltr.pdf
ThickAsThieves: "Berkshire’s gain in net worth during 2013 was $34.2 billion"
mircea_popescu: i forget, what do hey have under management ? 2 trn ?
ThickAsThieves: not sure i know how to read it right, but i see $74.3t in a lot of places
mircea_popescu: i think that's their reach
mircea_popescu: (ie, what position they could take counting all leverage)
mircea_popescu: look for "total assets under management"
ThickAsThieves: can;t find it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00086739 = 8.0667 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: Total current assets ..................... 25,035 (in mils)
ThickAsThieves: how will they fair when he dies? "Next year’s letter will review our 50 years at Berkshire and speculate a bit about the next 50. In the meantime, come to Omaha on May 3rd and enjoy our Woodstock for Capitalists."
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 150 @ 0.00085581 = 0.1284 BTC [-] {4}
wao-ender: v0v
wao-ender: BingoBoingo: Ukranian Deputies Threaten to Restart Nuclear Weapons Program in Response to Russian Support for Crimea Separatists
ThickAsThieves: fare*
ThickAsThieves: worst headline i've seen from Al Jazeera: Israel shoots dead woman near Gaza border
mircea_popescu: nubbins` here, i made this as a gift for you : http://trilema.com/2014/a-potpourri-or-your-first-time-gazing-upon-the-intimate-workings-of-power/
ThickAsThieves: lol the Mastercoin currency exchange is called Masterchest
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20384 @ 0.00086974 = 17.7288 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: i wonder if they can get the irghts for the dog
mircea_popescu: "his master's voice"
ThickAsThieves: cyprus gov collapsed?
mircea_popescu: yeah.
ThickAsThieves: yeesh
ThickAsThieves: i guess everyone really was still using gox
ThickAsThieves: RBS, BFL, Cyprus
mircea_popescu: l;ol
ThickAsThieves: Under that plan, Cyprus must privatize its ports, telecoms and electricity companies to raise up to 1.4 billion and pay down debt by 2018. Centre and left wing parties rejected the privatization scheme.
ThickAsThieves: why do lefties deny?
ThickAsThieves: sounds great to me
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 120 @ 0.07415382 = 8.8985 BTC [-] {16}
mircea_popescu: because they'd like sovereignity.
mircea_popescu: the only chip cyprus has at any table is the ports and telecoms
ThickAsThieves: parliament split 25-25 on the vote, with five abstentions
ThickAsThieves: sounds like someone's payoff check was late
mircea_popescu: lmao @55 seat parliament. i imagine their senate is not large enough to supply players for a tournament of bridge.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.13569717 = 0.4071 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00086581 = 5.0217 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 45 @ 0.00555021 = 0.2498 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: an' now back to our regularly scheduled programme.
mircea_popescu: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m85magDWMG1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg
wao-ender: ordinary romanian day^?
mircea_popescu: for the 1%
mircea_popescu: those lucky enough to work for the 0.01%
cazalla: is that good beer
mircea_popescu: nah
wao-ender: add Crimea hassle.
wao-ender: I think, perfect last few days.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11264 @ 0.00086993 = 9.7989 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: well the truth is... the russians could never afford to lose that.
FabianB: so OIX and MPBOR is suspended for the time being
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8338 @ 0.00087076 = 7.2604 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1879 @ 0.00019998 = 0.3758 BTC [+] {4}
davout: FabianB: looks like it
ThickAsThieves: coindesk steals info on other blogs and makes fancy timeline linking to all gox articles http://cdn.knightlab.com/libs/timeline/latest/embed/index.html?source=0AtTCgM8sLx3UdHNCeWdlZHBhNjVXQ1dtSWhUQm04LVE&font=Bevan-PotanoSans&maptype=toner&lang=en&start_at_slide=57&height=650
ThickAsThieves: all coindesk* gox articles
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, a belated birthday gift
mircea_popescu: :)
mircea_popescu: FabianB yes.
mircea_popescu: sorry about that.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that strategy worked in the past so well for so many now famous venues
mircea_popescu: wait... i couldn't actually name one
mircea_popescu: but obviously it worked. it must have. right ?
ThickAsThieves: content has to come from somewhere!
ThickAsThieves: i'm not even sure what purpose this doodad serves
mircea_popescu: i mean each year there are at least >9000 various start-ups, whether on broadway, off broadway, off-off broadway etc that try it.
ThickAsThieves: i can click all the tags!
mircea_popescu: i could never point to one that succeeded
mircea_popescu: and yet each year...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.13311598 = 1.3312 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: incidentally, re ukraine : http://www.atomicarchive.com/Docs/Deterrence/Trilateral.shtml
mircea_popescu: back when the us was still a sovereign, it promised (together with russia) to defend the ukrainian border if ukraina agrees to dismantle nukes.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile russia is still a sovereign, but the us is not sovereign anymore.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
nubbins`: "that depends on what your definition of 'defend' is"
mircea_popescu: nope, notrly.
asciilifeform: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/publishers-withdraw-more-than-120-gibberish-science-and-engineering-papers/
ozbot: Publishers Withdraw More than 120 Gibberish Science and Engineering Papers - Scientific American
asciilifeform: shannonizer ftw!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05099 = 0.102 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.0056 = 0.168 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 27 @ 0.0056 = 0.1512 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: there's one guy out there that's like, Wait I was serious! I'm not a machine!
mircea_popescu: ahjahaha
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4748 @ 0.00087076 = 4.1344 BTC [+]
ninjashogun: haha
ninjashogun: who was that
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00560987 = 0.1963 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: "The quantum droplet is made up of roughly five electrons and five holes. It possesses some characteristics of a liquid, like having ripples, the scientists said."
mircea_popescu: clearly, ripple wins at quantum.
mircea_popescu: anyway : new particle.
mircea_popescu: the dogeplet.
asciilifeform: http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/04/17/80/02/0004178002087_500X500.jpg
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform obviously i misread "ripple cunt"
asciilifeform: ahahaha
mircea_popescu: which i suppose is nubbins`'s next band
mircea_popescu: once they're done dicking around with the dick
asciilifeform: 'Most of the conferences took place in China, and most of the fake papers have authors with Chinese affiliations.'
mircea_popescu: spam.cn
nubbins`: DICK SURGERY!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 121 @ 0.0056 = 0.6776 BTC [-]
nubbins`: https://twitter.com/CBCWam/status/439718120354086912/photo/1/large
ozbot: Twitter / CBCWam: Look at all the brand new CDS ...
nubbins`: that's one of our albums (atelier bleu!) on top of the pile :D
nubbins`: shoulda put dick surgery on top.
ThickAsThieves: "Just noticed my TOR wallet emptied a couple of days ago"
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: Just noticed my lawn gnome was stolen
ThickAsThieves: and now all i have is these pictures
mircea_popescu: OMFG GUISE someone stoled my lawn
mircea_popescu: aw shit too slow again
ThickAsThieves: crimean!
ThickAsThieves: it has both crime and mean in it
ThickAsThieves: word of the month!
nubbins`: so we got our enormous-carbon-footprint 6.25% organic tank tops in for the yoga studio (eco-friendly!)
nubbins`: they don't even say "organic" on the label, anywhere
nubbins`: hahaha
ThickAsThieves: lol
nubbins`: fuck this client
ThickAsThieves: i was at an event last night where the speaker told the crowd to only eat orgasmic veggies
ThickAsThieves: especially if you eat the skin
nubbins`: people don't eat the skin?!
ThickAsThieves: and fruits*
ThickAsThieves: well, like bananas
ThickAsThieves: kiwis
ThickAsThieves: etc
asciilifeform: re: 'scigen': all the 'authors' would need to do now is to adjust the rng
asciilifeform: the problem of 'tell shit from shinola programmatically' is ai-complete
asciilifeform: anyone is welcome to try it even for 'arxiv vs snarxiv' (http://snarxiv.org/vs-arxiv)
mircea_popescu: snarxiv hahaha.
mircea_popescu: people here know everything don't they.
nubbins`: ah, good point
nubbins`: what sort of deviant would eat a banana peel ;(
ThickAsThieves: well it is probly the most orgasmic fruit
mircea_popescu: hahaha
ThickAsThieves: other than maybe cucumbers
ThickAsThieves: but to you'd have to "fruit" "loosely" if using a cucumber
ThickAsThieves: use*
mircea_popescu: can someone link me to the log where i rant about how if someone had an idea they didn't have an idea until someone in power says so ?
ThickAsThieves: not sure if you ever quite put it that recursively
mircea_popescu: i didn't
mircea_popescu: i can't remember what the fuck exactly i said and so i can't grep too efficiently.
ThickAsThieves: say something new then
mircea_popescu: meh.
ThickAsThieves: it'll be more memorable this time
ThickAsThieves: use a fucked up analogy
ThickAsThieves: itll help
mircea_popescu: lmao
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'art' piece?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think it was around that discussion, but not exactly.
mircea_popescu: i was ranting at either tat or thestringpuller i think
mircea_popescu: fucking hell i need ai.
mircea_popescu: why doesn't grep take gestures!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 138 @ 0.00544066 = 0.7508 BTC [-] {6}
nubbins`: mp, ever read any Federico Garcia Lorca? was reminded of him earlier
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 318 @ 0.00050177 = 0.1596 BTC [+] {7}
nubbins`: cohen named his daughter after him
nubbins`: always meant to pick some up, never quite got around to it
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the fellow with 'guardia civil, alma de charol' ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05055 = 0.1011 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: computer says yes
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.05003136 = 0.8005 BTC [-] {5}
mircea_popescu: Jan 25 16:40:13 <mircea_popescu>we're not equal, even if we can type the same strings in a box they still aren't the same strings. depends whose name signs on them. we're not equal, even if two people have "the same idea", in one head it's an idea, in another head it's nothing.
mircea_popescu: fuck me.
mircea_popescu: it was worth having it searched for. look at that beauty.
nubbins`: colored strings
mircea_popescu: nubbins` yes.
asciilifeform: what was the context here
asciilifeform: 'Quod licet Jovi...' ?
mircea_popescu: the context is complicated.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-01-2014#459312 ☝︎
ozbot: #bitcoin-assets log
mircea_popescu: basically me having an explosion over kids putting themselves in the whoodchipper
ThickAsThieves: fukn shit ... 19 AM shares lost in error on my last week. Grrr
mircea_popescu: the kids are playing the ceo, the woodchipper is chipping away
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 44 @ 0.00559998 = 0.2464 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: never fucked up til now
mircea_popescu: thickasukto.
ThickAsThieves: well at least i can afford to fix it
ThickAsThieves: fukn gmail and threaded emails caused it
nubbins`: that's the spirit
asciilifeform: if i understand correctly, this is just the difference between armchair general and actual general
ThickAsThieves: btw you see people shares ukyo's facebook?
kakobrekla: oh yeah whats with the ukyo now
kakobrekla: did he pay up or what
ThickAsThieves: https://www.facebook.com/jon.montroll
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00559998 = 0.196 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: nope
kakobrekla: or did he have the coins on gox
kakobrekla: cause that WOULD be fun.
kakobrekla: wait his name is MonTroll
kakobrekla: and you expect him to pay!?
nubbins`: mon ami, votre troll
ThickAsThieves: hehe
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.051 = 0.153 BTC [+]
nubbins`: or is that too stiff? ton troll if you prefer
kakobrekla: seems like hawaiian troll of men
nubbins`: brb reboot
nubbins`: 46 days uptime on a laptop ;o
kakobrekla: mine is longer.
ThickAsThieves: heh, Friedcat is covering the 19 shares :)
ThickAsThieves: i got a bailout
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you understand correctly.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23885 @ 0.00086496 = 20.6596 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: also this is for an article im about to write so you'll see what i want to say by it presently.
ThickAsThieves: that reminds me
ThickAsThieves: i was reading the MPOE statement
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> wait his name is MonTroll <<< inigo montrollya
ThickAsThieves: does the section with the graph basically imply that as you made efforts to CYA on those purchased Puts, the influenced caused a ripple that dropped the exchange rate all around?
mircea_popescu: i didn't think it implies such
mircea_popescu: i thought it outright said it.
ThickAsThieves: ok
ThickAsThieves: sometimes explicit things seem obfuscated to me :)
Namworld: Montroll is an actual family name tho
mircea_popescu: kind-of the point of that article, if you read between the... lines
mircea_popescu: o no wait. not of that article. of some other article.
ThickAsThieves: so a further implication might be, don;t bet too hard against mircea or he'll just move the goal posts?
mircea_popescu: either that or don't fucking read too deep into what mp says and go all fucking nuts just because he has to cover 10k
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00569989 = 0.285 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: i see
mircea_popescu: i would say it's becoming a major problem now that people keep trying to outmaneuver me intellectually, and whereas i'm very blunt, they ascribe wallstreet-esque depths of trachery to what i do
ThickAsThieves: that's a big sword you got
mircea_popescu: the result being ocasionally incontrollable deflagrations
mircea_popescu: so let's all simmer down and take mp at his word.
ThickAsThieves: at hi sword
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 111 @ 0.00559998 = 0.6216 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: lmao
assbot: Last 24 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1674360/plain/)
mircea_popescu: !b 24 ✂︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's ridiculous, just look at the volatility curve for 4-8 feb.
mircea_popescu: it's like V
ThickAsThieves: you just wnat me to spend more trilema credits!
ThickAsThieves: scammar
kakobrekla: how do you think hes gonna get by now, without the mpoe options....
mircea_popescu: ^
davout: lol
ThickAsThieves: i've spent like 800 so far
ThickAsThieves: not bad
mircea_popescu: i gotta expensify those things
ThickAsThieves: probly
mircea_popescu: currently i'm shitting the bitcoin advisor market, because you wouldn't hire anyone to pay him 100x for stupid shit
mircea_popescu: when you could juist read the stuff on trilema and be ahead.
mircea_popescu: somehow BingoBoingo doesn't quite manage to hate me for it, yet. ☟︎
ThickAsThieves: well you are mean and scary enough that anyone that would pay an advisor is probly ignoring you
mircea_popescu: heh.
mircea_popescu: yeah, plenty of rabbits with money all over the forest.
mircea_popescu: this happens.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00086599 = 14.8517 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: plus they need to get through the irc log as a primer now to even hope to understand what's going on
mircea_popescu: understanding is this fascinating beast, in that it works in parts
mircea_popescu: you don;t have to understand the whole thing to have an actionable understanding.
ThickAsThieves: so do inside jokes
ThickAsThieves: probly what people dismiss this all as
nubbins`: bayman just bought my bass amp
nubbins` dusts off hands
mircea_popescu: finance has always been the inside joke of some old jooz.
ThickAsThieves: those assholes pointing and laughing at shit that isnt even funny!
mircea_popescu: but anyway, there's going to be a livinbg to be earned in summarizing and translating irc and stuff for vaiours needs.
ThickAsThieves: i learned that if i am ever imprisoned i will need to tell them i am jewish in order to maintain veganism
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think of it as reselling Trilema credits at a markup
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 20 @ 0.00533325 = 0.1067 BTC [-]
nubbins`: will they provide you with multivitamins?
ThickAsThieves: thats bs
nubbins`: ;D
ThickAsThieves: vegans dont require suppliments
ThickAsThieves: no one does
ThickAsThieves: well no one healthy
nubbins` reels in the line
ThickAsThieves: hehe
mircea_popescu: unless you're in the habit of swallowing and do it 10 times a week
mircea_popescu: you can't really survive on all vegetals.
ThickAsThieves: lies
mircea_popescu: that's the dirty secret of good looking vegan chicks
mircea_popescu: they guzzle da cum.
ThickAsThieves: lol
mircea_popescu: notevenkidding.jpg
ThickAsThieves: well i agree that nuts are required for sustenance
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00533328 = 0.2293 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: :)
nubbins`: HEH
nubbins`: that's gold
nubbins`: fun fact: cashews aren't nuts
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15482 @ 0.00086599 = 13.4073 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00533154 = 0.7997 BTC [-] {5}
Namworld: Looks like a lot of people bought huge amount of goxcoins at 60%-90%
ThickAsThieves: bitcointalk should have better thread mod features, like disallowing posts from new accounts and/or Trust rating requirements
ThickAsThieves: this sock bullshit is ... bullshit
ThickAsThieves: 10 accounts = 2 doods wanking
ThickAsThieves: Namworld, how many did you buy>
nubbins`: you got soxxed
peterl: Namworld: and there are people talking about resurecting Gox, can't we just let the pile of crap die now?
Namworld: I sold at 90%
Namworld: 10% cut, just after withdrawals were stopped.
peterl: did you get your fiat out?
ThickAsThieves: yeah everyone thinks they can brute force the wallets
ThickAsThieves: i say let em be
Namworld: lol, brute force wallets.
nubbins`: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/03/01/146223/using-google-maps-to-intercept-fbi-and-secret-service-calls
ozbot: Using Google Maps To Intercept FBI and Secret Service Calls - Slashdot
ThickAsThieves: there are some serious issues for small businesses and google
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 40 @ 0.00549996 = 0.22 BTC [+] {3}
ThickAsThieves: random restaurant owner has no clue what to do
ThickAsThieves: slaves to tripadvisor and shit
ThickAsThieves: victims of a complaint system masquerading as a reviw
ThickAsThieves: reviews*
ThickAsThieves: then savvy ones buy fake reviews
ThickAsThieves: hurting consumer
ThickAsThieves: business RPG
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00020285 = 0.2029 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 243 @ 0.00088164 = 0.2142 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.0213 = 0.2769 BTC [-] {2}
nubbins`: http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2014/need-a-water-filter-peel-a-tree-branch-0226.html
ozbot: Need a water filter? Peel a tree branch - MIT News Office
nubbins`: won't work for cryptosporidium, but still impressive
ThickAsThieves: "This is a technology institute. I don't believe there are any communication courses here."
ThickAsThieves: says so much
ThickAsThieves: "This quote from your article aludes to plants having some sort of intelligence and a brain. This is rather disturbing to me coming from such a prestigious campus. This thinking must originate from some primitive caveman type of superstition. Otherwise this is a wonderful article."
asciilifeform: mit, obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIhk9eKOLzQ
ThickAsThieves: is Vitalik from MIT?
ThickAsThieves: hehe http://about.me/vitalik_buterin
nubbins`: heh, commenters are such wet blankets
ThickAsThieves: should have lasers coming out of his eyes
ThickAsThieves: University of Waterloo
kakobrekla: >Full-time Cryptocurrency 2.0 Advocate
kakobrekla: oh my.
ThickAsThieves: yeah the new company line is bitcoin is outdated, havent you heard
ThickAsThieves: so many problemz with it
ThickAsThieves: like i dont own any
ThickAsThieves: etc
kakobrekla: mhm
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/st-john-s-man-living-in-shed-after-booted-out-of-housing-1.2555839
ozbot: St. John's man living in shed after booted out of housing - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News
nubbins`: a particularly insightful comment: "another sensational story by the CBC over dramatising as usual .....and indeed scrapping the bottom of the barrel ...give us a justin bieber story please"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9645 @ 0.00087078 = 8.3987 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: "What a heart wrenching one sided story."
ThickAsThieves: hehe
nubbins`: cbc comments, in particular, are fucking brutal
nubbins`: that fucking dickhead "froglips" comments on every. single. story.
nubbins`: that said, this is a ridiculous excuse of a news story
ThickAsThieves: from the lips of frogs
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 28 @ 0.05005714 = 1.4016 BTC [-] {2}
chetty: Upper house to demand recall of Moscow ambassador to U.S.
nubbins`: http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-crisis-putin-gets-parliamentary-approval-for-military-use-1.2556228
ozbot: Ukraine crisis: Putin gets parliamentary approval for military use - World - CBC News
nubbins`: eep
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 28 @ 0.00549999 = 0.154 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.09799997 = 0.196 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: nubbins`: love the weasel man in that piece
asciilifeform: there is no grey
nubbins`: ukraine or homeless guy?
ThickAsThieves: http://imgur.com/4lPPqXa
ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
asciilifeform: http://thepolitikalblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ukraine-linguistic-division.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/pro-idiotas-which-obviously-means-people-who-have-ideas-ie-idiots/
ozbot: Pro idiotas, which obviously means, people who have ideas. Ie, idiots. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mirce
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.02001759 = 0.4004 BTC [-] {6}
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> like i dont own any <<< lol
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00530003 = 0.2915 BTC [-]
nubbins`: TBF some guy on the street offers me a joint, i say yes
nubbins`: but that's just because i live where i do
mircea_popescu: not as a 9yo girl
nubbins`: as a 9yo girl, i say i'm 9 and what is this
mircea_popescu: "can i suck your c0k instead ?"
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 233 @ 0.00522431 = 1.2173 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: maybe not
nubbins`: hard to say
ThickAsThieves: i must admit i almost bought shares in bourse cuz jurov
ThickAsThieves: but upon reading it i couldbnt justify
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0051007 = 0.5101 BTC [-] {4}
nubbins`: "But my curren PC is old and noise and it waking up wife and children when I working at night" heh
mircea_popescu: so you can think with head. congratulations, you should be on -assets.
nubbins`: sounds like he needs a new fan, not a new macbook pro
mircea_popescu: he cant open it and clean it
mircea_popescu: lest he voids the warranty
mircea_popescu: i should have linked him to my epic pics of me fixing laptop board in mexico hotel room, with solder shavings, safety pin and lighter.
wao-ender: I didnt buy when I read their prospectus..
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00020499 = 0.205 BTC [+]
nubbins`: omg guise i've been selected for a free cruise to the bahamas!
nubbins`: all i need to do is press 1 now
mircea_popescu: say yes
nubbins`: or press 9 to decline
mircea_popescu: (because of where you happen to live)
nubbins`: if this woman approached me on the street, sure
nubbins`: long-distance phone call, nope
nubbins`: i don't take drugs from strangers over the phone either ;(
mircea_popescu: you woudn't download a joint ?
asciilifeform: press 'FO' instead.
asciilifeform: http://www.beatriceco.com/bti/porticus/bell/images/66dial6c_reduced_size.jpg
nubbins`: if only i could
nubbins`: well, that's not entirely honest
nubbins`: you can kind of download a joint
mircea_popescu: 3d printed joints
mircea_popescu: on blotter paper.
nubbins`: i need to start producing blotter art.
nubbins`: money in that
mircea_popescu: well maybe not exactly money...
nubbins`: http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_nkw=blotter+art
ozbot: blotter art | eBay
nubbins`: not set up to perforate paper tho
ThickAsThieves: "This is not going to be my life’s work." nice pitch
nubbins`: although tbf the perforated stuff doesn't really make the rounds anymore
nubbins`: tat, inorite?
ThickAsThieves: he basically says "I am useless" over and over
nubbins`: i am useless, pay me
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves part of the problem, of course, is epitomized in the word for barbarian
mircea_popescu: the greek idea was that "these people say nothing meaningful, may as well be sheep, bar bar"
nubbins`: "Well, so far I have an incorporated company that I own 100% of"
nubbins`: lel
mircea_popescu: obviously this isn't exactly true.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.0200012 = 0.12 BTC [-]
nubbins`: "well so far i've spent a hundred dollars"
ThickAsThieves: i wonder if this is the same guy who emailed me a few days ago
mircea_popescu: it's not the quantum computing emulated on z80s if you mwan that one
mircea_popescu: that's a differnet, and much more sordid sort of nut.
ThickAsThieves: "Dear TAT,
ThickAsThieves: I am looking to do a fund raise for my business I would like to get your feedback on the best strategy to do so and the best way to reach the market.
ThickAsThieves: Kr,
ThickAsThieves: Malcolm O"
ThickAsThieves: that's the whole email
mircea_popescu: lol
mircea_popescu: wait, were you the recipient of the
mircea_popescu: o no, that was pankkake
mircea_popescu: with the promoting of BEKs.
ThickAsThieves: I tell him to get a clue in kinder words, he replies "im sorry im a bit confused are u saying if i have the business plan / interesting offering you can't help me or you can ?"
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/a-deal-can-be-anything/
ozbot: A deal can be anything. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: talking of self-enforcing contracts
ThickAsThieves: no more replies from me
mircea_popescu: the mjr_ way : allign the fucking incentives.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02000001 = 0.2 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.05109999 = 0.511 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves any idea what "kr," is supposed to be ?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05113 = 0.1023 BTC [+] {2}
ThickAsThieves: kind regards
ThickAsThieves: i assime
Duffer1: no offer of $$ for your expertise?
ThickAsThieves: that wouldnt be appropriate anyway
peterl: or better, btc for expertise?
ThickAsThieves: i dont even think about what i want til i know i want anything at all
peterl: maybe you should respond with a "I charge X btc for this type of advise"?
ThickAsThieves: nah
ThickAsThieves: i'm done helping asshole
ThickAsThieves: s
ThickAsThieves: at this point "customer" is a curse word to me
peterl: maybe he should open a forum thread, plenty of advise there ...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.31766783 BTC to 3`517 shares, 65899 satoshi per share
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9529 @ 0.00086402 = 8.2332 BTC [-] {2}
ThickAsThieves: from my first job through my whole life, i've observed customers thinking they are entitled and more experienced at the task they are paying for
ThickAsThieves: can't take it anymore
mircea_popescu: o ic
ThickAsThieves: mp stahp linking romanian articles :(
mircea_popescu: peterl i think he actually has it superbly stated. "i dont even think about what i want til i know i want anything at all"
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the rabi one i sfucking great.
mircea_popescu: someone should translate that thing.
nubbins`: [13:28:15] <@Anduck> I'm selling a 10BTC Casascius silver coin for 30 BTC. Pm me if you want to buy it.
nubbins`: :(
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02 = 0.12 BTC [-]
Anduck: nubbins`: want to buy it
Anduck: ??
peterl: that is a heck of a markup for a coin
nubbins`: ^
mircea_popescu: no he just wants to rage
peterl: the silver is what, 0.1 btc?
Anduck: 10 BTC
nubbins`: mp has it
nubbins`: coin scalpers ;(
mircea_popescu: i doubt you can make a coin out of 60 dollars' worth of silver
mircea_popescu: 4oz coins ftw
ThickAsThieves: can't i just buy a blank and put 10btc on it?
peterl: oh, sorry, mental math fail
nubbins`: http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/fine-silver-1-kilogram-coin-maple-leaf-forever-mintage-600-2013-prod1680018
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is numismatics not engineering
ozbot: Fine Silver 1 kilogram Coin - Maple Leaf Forever - Mintage: 600 (2013)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00086242 = 7.6324 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: nubbins` didn't you canuk kooks make a 1 ton gold coin too ?
nubbins`: the bizarre part of all this is that you turned down an offer of 25btc
nubbins`: mircea_popescu, we have a nice mint and we're not afraid to use it :D
mircea_popescu: make solid wheels out of the stuffs
mircea_popescu: all rappers beeline to canada mint
mircea_popescu: TyreCoin
peterl: the alt-coin of the future! amazing!
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
nubbins`: http://www.mint.ca/store/mint/learn/million-dollar-coin-1600006#.UxIUAvRdVro
ozbot: Royal Canadian Mint Million Dollar Coin (2007)
nubbins`: 100kg
nubbins`: 99999 fine
peterl: I love assbot :)
ThickAsThieves: fancy
mircea_popescu: assamazing bot!
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
nubbins`: let me find a good quote
nubbins`: speaking of the mint
Duffer1: 30btc?! good lord you could probably bribe casc to do a one off perfect replica for half that
Duffer1: brb
wao-ender: interesting http://pando.com/2014/02/28/pierre-omidyar-co-funded-ukraine-revolution-groups-with-us-government-documents-show/
mircea_popescu: nice link!
nubbins`: [Former Liberal cabinet minister David] Dingwall was defending his right to a hefty severance package after stepping down from a six-figure salary as head of the Canadian Mint. His departure, which some say was forced, came after revelations surfaced about ... questionable expense claims"
nubbins`: Dingwall's proclamation to a parliamentary committee: "I am entitled to my entitlements!"
ThickAsThieves: nice garlic logo!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.08625 = 0.345 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.05113 = 0.1023 BTC [+]
nubbins`: Duffer1: not a funded one ;D
Duffer1: depends if he has an unsold priv key to attach to it...
nubbins`: anyway, Dingwall turned the mint from a black hole into a very profitable endeavor
nubbins`: he was, indeed, entitled to his entitlements
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.09001052 = 0.36 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: nubbins` this is quite exactly why they fight his entitlements.
mircea_popescu: someone not deserving it they could stand, but someone who earned it they could never tolerate.
nubbins`: his expense claims turned out to be perfectly reasonable, in the meantime
nubbins`: it's not like he was a CANADIAN SENATOR or anything :D
mircea_popescu: wao-ender the best part about the pando link, by the way, is how cheap it all was
mircea_popescu: 500k yearly budget, srsly ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00086321 = 9.5816 BTC [+]
wao-ender: mircea_popescu: cheaper than invasion.
ThickAsThieves: Buffet: 'America’s best days lie ahead.'
ThickAsThieves: trolling in his last days
Duffer1: that must be why he bought recession proof heinz
mircea_popescu: was pretty epic that yeah lol
wao-ender: I like these US soft-skills.
nubbins`: so a friend of mine listens to this corny christian radio station that plays classical music
ThickAsThieves: see this is why i hate customers, after fixing this AM share mixup: "For this event, thank you very much for your cooperation.At the same time,As the responsible company, I hope you don't appear again similar mistakes !"
nubbins`: from earlier today: "so there's wind out there & that, and some roads are closed. not too warm out."
nubbins`: THANKS FOR THE UPDATE
mircea_popescu: wao-ender except if you dig into it, it was all soviets.
mircea_popescu: ex kgb's "languages" programme alumni
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves I hope you have learned your lesson son!
ThickAsThieves: yep, and the rub is this service is arguably provided for free
ThickAsThieves: free service brings much free advice
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171 @ 0.00086321 = 0.1476 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the community!
ThickAsThieves: is buffet going senile?
ThickAsThieves: “Woody Allen stated the general idea when he said: ‘The advantage of being bi-sexual is that it doubles your chances for a date on Saturday night.’ Similarly, our appetite for either operating businesses or passive investments doubles our chances of finding sensible uses for our endless gusher of cash.”
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: hehe
mircea_popescu: this is a parody ?
kakobrekla: whats wrong with that
ThickAsThieves: Warren Buffett once said, “Diversification is protection against ignorance, it makes little sense for those who know what they’re doing.”
ThickAsThieves: no it's real
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mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBSgpHQO-J4#t=101
ozbot: Seinfeld Clip - Kramer's Rickshaw Adventure - YouTube
ThickAsThieves: maybe he's giving cryptic hints to those that know him better
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves now that you've been here you cant stop thinking everyone's on his own -assets huh ?
ThickAsThieves: "Get out now, I've only got days left"
ThickAsThieves: well me and Occam are like this
ThickAsThieves crosses fingers
ThickAsThieves: you still remind me of him though
ThickAsThieves: “I must again confess that their investments outperformed mine. (Charlie says I should add “by a lot.”) If such humiliating comparisons continue, I’ll have no choice but to cease talking about them.”
mircea_popescu: lol.
ThickAsThieves: you have certainly said something very similar in trilema
ThickAsThieves: i forget about what
mircea_popescu: well yeah, but really it's neither me or him, it's just british.
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ThickAsThieves: ah
ThickAsThieves: which neither of you are
mircea_popescu: a certain dry.
nubbins`: "Generally, for your own sake, you should spend most of your time not doing what you want to do, and especially so if you’re young."
nubbins`: well, at least i did that right
ThickAsThieves: that's a tricky statement
ThickAsThieves: can be taken the wrong way easily
mircea_popescu: it'd better be
mircea_popescu: it was on trilema after all.
ThickAsThieves: especially by a kid
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ThickAsThieves: all the kids reading trilema, ohnoes!
nubbins`: heh.
nubbins`: well, if kids didn't take things the wrong way they wouldn't be kids
mircea_popescu: let them take it the wrong way, what.
nubbins`: i take that statement more as retrospective affirmation than an instruction
ThickAsThieves: Buffet insulting his successor “Ajit’s mind is an idea factory that is always looking for more lines of business he can add to his current assortment.”
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves usure that's successor ?
nubbins`: asciilifeform, http://news.slashdot.org/story/14/02/28/1937251/broadcom-releases-source-for-graphics-stack-raspberry-pi-sets-bounty-for-port
ThickAsThieves: not officially
ThickAsThieves: said to be possibly
mircea_popescu: yeah. i think it's moire for the political press than anything
mircea_popescu: buffett is disgustingly libertard in his senile age.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw u saw that pando link ?
mircea_popescu: "Of the many problems that poses, none is more serious than the fact that Omidyar now has the only two people with exclusive access to the complete Snowden NSA cache, Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras. Somehow, the same billionaire who co-financed the “coup” in Ukraine with USAID, also has exclusive access to the NSA secrets—and very few in the independent media dare voice a skeptical word about it."
mircea_popescu: that's not actually correct, but w/e.
mircea_popescu: mark ames is doing work.
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nubbins`: "how often do you replace your running shoes?" -wife to roommate
nubbins`: stay tuned for answer
nubbins`: "i don't scuff, so i'd say about two months a pair"
nubbins`: :0
nubbins`: runners
nubbins` shakes head
mircea_popescu: this went over my head.
nubbins`: the roommate runs as a pastime
mircea_popescu: uh
mircea_popescu: what the fuck then ?
nubbins`: foot races, etc
nubbins`: i guess scuffers get less than two months out of a pair
mircea_popescu: if my passtimes required me to buy shoes 6 times a year i'd be pretty distraught
nubbins`: ehh, there are costlier pastimes
nubbins`: drinking, say
nubbins`: comic books
nubbins`: etc
nubbins`: it's funny, he actually takes a marker and writes the date of first use on the back of the heels
jurov: well, pro runners use very light and soft shoes, no wonder they wear off quickly
nubbins`: i've known people to do this to packs of cigarette papers, but not shoes
mircea_popescu: i guess i't just buy 24 pairs at a time
nubbins`: jurov, i picked up one of his shoes once, with eyes closed you'd almost never know you were holding anything
mircea_popescu: currently i buy 2-3 of shoes i like,
mircea_popescu: which i suppose reflects the normal lifetime of fucking leather shoes.
nubbins`: yeah, he buys 2-3 pairs at a time
BingoBoingo: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/asia/china-railway-attack/index.html
ozbot: 27 killed in China railway attack - CNN.com
nubbins`: huh, new balance makes all their shoes in the US and UK
mircea_popescu: "The NFL's been handing out traumatic brain injuries for decades, but the moment Disney decided it needed the women that was the end of lockerroom hijinx. But until it completes the NFL's rebranding as a kinder, bully-free, concussionless game, complete with engagement rings and Us Weekly's "Ten Hunkiest White Or Articulate Quarterbacks", it's going to have to keep broadcasting Nashville. "
mircea_popescu: bwahahaha
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you see, sports ARE dead. cause they're trying to get women into the audience.
nubbins`: white or articulare
nubbins`: *articulate
nubbins`: ah, my sides
mircea_popescu: i guess you're white huh ?
nubbins`: well i'm hardly articulate
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mircea_popescu: ("You know, you could use an editor." You could use some free association, it may help you see unconscious connections which drive your life. "I find that weed helps." Amateur.)
mircea_popescu: person breaks fucking article to insert paranthetical diorama
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well football at the professional level it seems is.
nubbins`: see, the guy offering you a joint is just trying to make you a better writer
nubbins`: anyway, i gotta go
nubbins`: peace
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benkay: mystical bitcoin!
mircea_popescu: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82o2fLL3C1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg
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BingoBoingo: The NFL is trying to watch women the wrong way, anyways. Most of the women and girls I know favor this guy over the "All American" sort https://www.google.com/search?q=yadier+molina+tattoo&safe=off&client=ubuntu&hs=kyp&channel=fs&tbm=isch&imgil=_i-QdhSNVYsuXM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcTvSwzEK9Oe49mbzNu6AKJERZyAJuRbPbTzh2mITclXb6EW64AUDw%253B698%253B576%253BaQkQtdrU-z
BingoBoingo: pZUM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fclubtattoo.com%25252Fgallery%25252Fcelebrities%25252F&source=iu&usg=__yvyknxcx5w2FKbwWeA75o56rpIQ%3D&sa=X&ei=wSESU8wGk7jIAda2gYAJ&ved=0CCgQ9QEwAA&biw=1301&bih=678#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=_i-QdhSNVYsuXM%253A%3BaQkQtdrU-zpZUM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fclubtattoo.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2012%252F03%252Fyadier-molina-st.-louis-cardinal-catcher.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fclubtattoo.com%252Fgallery%2
BingoBoingo: 52Fcelebrities%252F%3B698%3B576
benkay: BingoBoingo: that url's going to need a pastebin
BingoBoingo: benkay: http://clubtattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/yadier-molina-st.-louis-cardinal-catcher.jpg
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benkay: that's the new all american as far as this generation of babes are concerned, B
mircea_popescu: babes = what ? 17yos ? 22yos ?
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benkay: well 'this generation' would be the agerange boss
benkay: 'babes' is just a personal generic for wimmins
mircea_popescu: guy looks kinda perennial to me tbh.
benkay: neck tattoos and all
benkay: ?
mircea_popescu: that much different from say swayze ?
mircea_popescu: a, that's important ?
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benkay: to a nation that favors the image over the substance maybe
benkay: you're the anthropologist tho
mircea_popescu: i guess clearly i'm not a woman.
mircea_popescu: i suppose pigeons can readily distinguish male from female pigeons. i can not.
mircea_popescu: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82nxm2tHJ1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg lets to pics instead.
BingoBoingo: Neck tattoos, arm tattoos, probably less visible tattoos. Still, he hit .319 last year
benkay: dude on the left with the fag
mircea_popescu: so which'd be the yadier-molina-est guy in that pic ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: let's play "help evil ai MP infiltrate human society", a society game.
benkay: what's the -est? puerto rican?
benkay: ambiguous like bitcoin price
mircea_popescu: -est wants to mean most like.
benkay: but on which axis/es?
mircea_popescu: also, you can readily guess that shot is in europe : women smile at naked girl walking down the street.
mircea_popescu: benkay now how would i know.
BingoBoingo: blue shirt bald head near the van
mircea_popescu: not short sleeved mid dork /
mircea_popescu: i guess george really has it, baldness is now in style.
benkay: BingoBoingo: 'cause he's dark?
BingoBoingo: benkay: More cause he looks like he is going to stab someone of they obstruct his view of dat ass
benkay: give us another one, mi
benkay: mircea_popescu:
mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82ny7nOWP1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: Prolly the guy on the tv
benkay: HAW
benkay: SO THESE MYSTICAL BITCOINS
benkay: spring is for teh lulz
mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m82nxwBn5g1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg ?
benkay: fuck is on her head?
mircea_popescu: there's a joke that goes with that picture.
mircea_popescu: judge's wife, a tall beautiful woman is allegedly raped in a phone booth
mircea_popescu: by a midget.
ThickAsThieves: she's wearing a nigerian hat
mircea_popescu: who's at most tall enough to stick his nose in her snatch
mircea_popescu: at trial they can't quite establish HOW he'd have done it, so in spite of all the scandal guy walks free.
mircea_popescu: judge buys the guy drinks and asks him to pls tell him wtf.
mircea_popescu: so the midget tells him : with the pot, yo.
mircea_popescu: i put a pot on her head and fucked her holding the handles.
ThickAsThieves: :/
mircea_popescu: in retrospect, perhaps one of the more offensive romanian jokes out there.
benkay: http://instantrimshot.com/
ozbot: Welcome to Instant Rimshot
benkay: oh come now, i want to hear actually offensive romanian jokes now
mircea_popescu: sorry.
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mircea_popescu: benkay https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/439831247175835648
mircea_popescu: there's a start.
ThickAsThieves: irlol
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mircea_popescu: However, not all women are the target demo of Randi's lip synching, the CEO of General Dynamics is a woman, I think she has a higher security clearance than the entire Senate, and I know for a fact she builds alien spaceships, why not interview her about how she uses social media to promote her brand and make connections and break ceilings? Because there's no Like button for hard work or triple integrals, which is do
mircea_popescu: ubly interesting because calculus was invented to make hard work easier. "I just don't get math." Can't do math if you weren't taught to think logically, and logic is tough on kids' self esteems and makes them way less submissive, easier just to put on a video.
mircea_popescu: this is pretty spot-on, i do think phebe novakovic has moar clearance than most of the senate.
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Jere_Jones: I'm having trouble with a word in mp's pro-idiotas article. "intraductibility"
Jere_Jones: What does it mean? Best I can find is that it is a french-ish word meaning "un-translate-able".
mircea_popescu: that, pretty much, with a twist of intractability.
Jere_Jones: "A complex thing that can not be translated"?
mircea_popescu: a thing that can't be translated due its complexity.
Jere_Jones: Ah
mircea_popescu: your wife'll never be able to explain to you WHY she loves you,
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mircea_popescu: not because she doesn't nor because you're an idiot
mircea_popescu: but because... well... it's hers.
Jere_Jones: *Why* she loves me is intraductible. <- Correct usage?
Jere_Jones: Except for the spelling
mircea_popescu: yeah :p
Jere_Jones: Thanks
ThickAsThieves: seems like an easy target for "something so absract it doesn't exist"
mircea_popescu: course it doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: until someone loses an eye.
ThickAsThieves: well i always say, if it's that complicated, you're solving the wrong problem
mircea_popescu: it's just a condiment, really.
benkay: "mmm! this problem has a lovely hint of complexity."
mircea_popescu: if you never meet such complexity you're not doing a too good job of thnking
Jere_Jones: Like ketch-urd?
ThickAsThieves: not quite what i mean by it
ThickAsThieves: just sometimes beating your head against well is merely that
ThickAsThieves: wall*
mircea_popescu: a that for sure.
mircea_popescu: but you know, suppose you didn't for whatever reason have the ability to evaluate content.
ThickAsThieves: still applies i guess
ThickAsThieves: solving the wrong problem, cuz incapable
ThickAsThieves: solve simpler ones first
mircea_popescu: like you're an alien from a different herbertian space.
mircea_popescu: you STILL can distinguish pulp books from good books
mircea_popescu: by the criterion that "it is pulp all which includes no intraducible complexity"
mircea_popescu: you don't actally need to be able to at all understand what they say for this purpose.
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ThickAsThieves: are all things already experienced thus pulp?
ThickAsThieves: no i guess not
ThickAsThieves: all things masterd are
mircea_popescu: notrly. just bad retellings of them
mircea_popescu: kinda what pulp is, actually. "a bad retelling of history"
benkay: bitcoinpulp.org
mircea_popescu: Jere_Jones da fuck is ketch-urd ?
benkay: ketch-ard
Jere_Jones: ketchup and mustard mixed together
mircea_popescu: o o that.
mircea_popescu: incidentally : urda is a muchly loved romanian soft cheese
mircea_popescu: which i definitely recomend everyone tries.
kakobrekla: ketchurd? id prefer majvar.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla вурда
mircea_popescu: sort-of ricotta-ish
kakobrekla: aha
ThickAsThieves: i used to like feta some, dry and salty
mircea_popescu: feta is great
mircea_popescu: but the greek stuff.
ThickAsThieves: also super sharp stuff
ThickAsThieves: mimouette etc
ThickAsThieves: mimolette*
davout: you guys are all the jon snows of cheese
mircea_popescu: is that a good thing ?
ThickAsThieves: no idea
ThickAsThieves: out in the cold?
davout: you know nothing
davout: such fail
ThickAsThieves: well we know what we like so far
ThickAsThieves: what more can you ask for
mircea_popescu: eh gtfo, romanian cheeze rules!
mircea_popescu: smelly french cheezperialistsa
davout: haha
mircea_popescu: if it weren't for camembert we wouldn't even be on speaking terms
ThickAsThieves: not like we're in france, where every corner of the body produces exotic cheeses
kakobrekla: i can attest ro cheese is not bad
davout: ThickAsThieves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lputqogvqI
davout: the commercial for the famous french "dick cheese"
davout: aka "fromage de bite"
ThickAsThieves: nasty lol
ThickAsThieves: they all have dick heads too
KRS-One: Richard Cranium?
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ThickAsThieves: i haz idea
benkay: it sucks
kakobrekla: it blows
ThickAsThieves: do a tell-all post about how we discovered what happened to Gox coins
ThickAsThieves: all pointing to altcoin chain
ThickAsThieves: as publicity stunt
kakobrekla: do we have 750k atc?
ThickAsThieves: could muster surely
jurov: lol, 800k btc sent to atc wallet by mistake?
ThickAsThieves: hehe
ThickAsThieves: advice everyone to make ATC wallets
ThickAsThieves: to unlock the keys
mircea_popescu: advise!
ThickAsThieves: yes
jurov: bitcoin foundation was too ashamed to admit itis possible
ThickAsThieves: you guys teached me teh IRC speak
ThickAsThieves: dont make me change now
mircea_popescu: bitcoin foundation come out with a BFL statement yet ?
mircea_popescu: or did their murk lawyer advise they;'re not to discuss two major scams the same week
kakobrekla: what bfl statement?
ThickAsThieves: pulp http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/26/tech/innovation/dogecoin-cryptocurrency-tech-irpt/
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla you know, all about how bfl is a serious biznis that has the foundation's seal of approval.
ThickAsThieves: i didnt learn about how the Alydian thing panned out til yesterday
kakobrekla: but what did bfl do this time around?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla seen their site recently ?
kakobrekla: no
ThickAsThieves: wow they are still selling preorders of those PCI cards
ThickAsThieves: pure evil
kakobrekla: as expected
ThickAsThieves: "Butterfly Labs has shipped more ASIC products than all competitors combined"
ThickAsThieves: haha it has a James Gibson testimonial
ThickAsThieves: "As a fairly early Bitcoin adopter and institutional miner, the choice for mining hardware comes down to innovation. Who is going to have the experience and best technology going forward to keep me ahead of the curve? The fact that BFL has a proven chip design, combined with their innovations in form factor and node size means that they will be hard to beat moving forward."
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla o it's back ?
ThickAsThieves: James Gibson - GigaVPS
mircea_popescu: they had deleted it earlier.
kakobrekla: deleted the website?
mircea_popescu: yeah.
ThickAsThieves: "institutional miner"
kakobrekla: O_o
kakobrekla: yes, 16 year old scammer kiddo is also institution.
mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z9djc/where_did_butterflylabs_go/
ozbot: Where did ButterflyLabs go? : Bitcoin
kakobrekla: to hang out with pirate in hawaii
mircea_popescu: "Site is back. Panic over."
mircea_popescu: logically.
mircea_popescu: for instance if my roof disappeared and then came back
mircea_popescu: i'd be all like "o... ok"
mircea_popescu: roofs do that.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it's funny, too. coinlab nao has moneyz to seed start-ups
ThickAsThieves: "Alydian doesn't have employees or an office, but it reimburses CoinLab for the work it has done in the mining process."
ThickAsThieves: "What I see is a debtor that has absolutely zero existence," Judge Overstreet said. "I want to make sure that when we do this world-wide advertising [to promote an auction] we are not misrepresenting to the world what we have to sell, because the integrity of the bankruptcy process is at stake."
ThickAsThieves: lol
ThickAsThieves: only Coinlab could have someone worrying about the "integrity" of bankruptcy
mircea_popescu: lol
ThickAsThieves: "I'm not satisfied that there isn't some hiding of information," she said.
ThickAsThieves: ythink?
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, “We are part of a transformation of Bitcoin mining,” said Hans Olsen, CEO of Alydian. “Alydian has developed an enterprise-scale Bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: they ended up paying off their biggest unhappy customer
ThickAsThieves: fuck everyone else
ThickAsThieves: if yer gonna support scammers, at least have a big enough wallet for a lawyer i guess
ninjashogun: hi everyone
mircea_popescu: except people with large wallets do not want to support scammers.
mircea_popescu: well, maybe with the exception of government
mircea_popescu: the jury's still out on that one.
ThickAsThieves: so it's really a lesson for scammers, quantity over quality
mircea_popescu: defo.
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mircea_popescu: ;;later tell copumpkin incidentally, you ever read http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/01/randi_zuckerberg.html ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: and i guess that goes for cads too
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BingoBoingo: "Viral" content at work http://speakingofresearch.com/2014/02/27/fact-into-fiction-why-context-matters-with-animal-images/
KRS-One: lol gainesville sun..i used to live in gainesville..quite the college party town. i almost stayed there living the life.
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benkay: showing a baby picture to a man is an aggressive act because it demands a reaction, you showing him a picture of your baby is entirely for your benefit and not at all for his, it is a dare, in much the same way as a woman on a first date telling you she doesn't play games is a dare, a dare you shouldn't take, trust me on this, overpay the check in cash and run.
ThickAsThieves: benkay only dates WoW sluts
BingoBoingo: This is prolly my favorite last psychiatrist post http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/07/the_most_important_article_on.html
KRS-One: haha
benkay: nah i only date women who cook
KRS-One: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/9c8d5e766c4ea7ebb08889761a1ec966/tumblr_mn3fmelpxY1r3yc8oo1_1280.jpg
KRS-One: Mmmm
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mircea_popescu: <benkay> nah i only date women with cock << wut ?!
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ThickAsThieves: how else can he "date" them, must count the rings!
ThickAsThieves: no good deed... http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/03/01/284397588/creation-museum-bill-nye-debate-sparked-funding-miracle
ThickAsThieves: give an idiot the time, and he takes the whole damn day
BingoBoingo: The thing about science/bitcoin/whatever is people can believe whatever they want, while reality generally doesn't give a shit.
ThickAsThieves: well i'd rather see that money go to netflix subsciptions or whatever the hell else it may have gone to instead
ThickAsThieves: but at least theyre keeping it in the family...
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mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves of course, none of it has anything to do with miracles or nye or the debate or anything.
mircea_popescu: the us is simply awash in newly printed dollars.
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mircea_popescu: sooo... kraken suspends all usd deposits.
mircea_popescu: that lasted long.
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mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=488669.0;all << pretty lulzy cryptoscam drama
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mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491283.msg5452146#msg5452146
ozbot: Roger Ver, bless him, tells that Gox is going bankrupt
mircea_popescu: should be interesting to see how this goes.
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhnJABJCMAAwZ1b.png:large << the us health system in ten thousand words
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04966666 = 0.149 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.086999 = 0.174 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.13311598 BTC [-]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04890001 = 0.2445 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.04780287 = 0.5736 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.04706874 = 0.3765 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 14 @ 0.04628927 = 0.648 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.04516153 = 0.5871 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60469 @ 0.00085692 = 51.8171 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149 @ 0.00084325 = 0.1256 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.0008424 = 16.848 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: seems thermos does not want to reply to my ban complaint
kakobrekla: cant even buy my way out of this one it seems
deadweasel: you got rebanned? who won the pool?
mircea_popescu: o shit we had a pool didn't we
kakobrekla: whut?
deadweasel: i'm not sure it made it out of suggestion stage, but the logs will tell
kakobrekla: i dont recall making any votes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008424 = 4.212 BTC [-]
kakobrekla: or bets
kakobrekla: or anything
mircea_popescu: we had the desire to have a pool ?
deadweasel: possibly.
mircea_popescu: so berkshire just had its 4th worst year in a 48 year history
mircea_popescu: while simultaneously making 18.2%, which is sorta midway (average returns 19.7%) in nominal terms
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.09788314 = 0.2936 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: the difference being that s&p made 32.4%, which is like... 3x averages over the period.
mircea_popescu: clearly the us has no inflationary problem at all.
mircea_popescu: it's just that 20% a year doesn'tmanage to keep up with inflation, that's all.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00055805 = 0.5581 BTC [+] {10}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.045 = 0.27 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6501 @ 0.00084325 = 5.482 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.04318768 = 0.691 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 23 @ 0.04297826 = 0.9885 BTC [-] {3}
Duffer1: lol NATO what the fuck on earth could they possibly do...
Duffer1: nato is exactly what i'd imagine a reddit army to look like
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: huh? I used the exact same pubkey the first time I signed up (I even forwarded my original email) and it worked for over a year!
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 30 @ 0.0415 = 1.245 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.04052687 = 0.6484 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.60927987 = 11.5763 BTC [+] {11}
mircea_popescu: copumpkin hm, i guess needs a closer look this.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.615 BTC [+]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: I can try re-exporting it from my keychain and send you that. I just repeated the original email this past time
copumpkin: let me do that, in case the copy and paste corrupted it somehow
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.06999998 = 0.21 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: turns out it did. lots of html cruft
mircea_popescu: that's why it choked.
mircea_popescu: send a clean version will you
copumpkin: doing it now :) sorry!
mircea_popescu: somehow it didn't occur to me to check for <br> earlier.
copumpkin: hmm, I should probably just make it plain text
copumpkin: oh well, if this one breaks too I'll do that
mircea_popescu: "That kind of commitment was nothing new for us: We’ve been making similar wagers ever since Buffett
mircea_popescu: Partnership Ltd. acquired control of Berkshire in 1965. For good reason, too. Charlie and I have always considered
mircea_popescu: a “bet” on ever-rising U.S. prosperity to be very close to a sure thing.
mircea_popescu: Indeed, who has ever benefited during the past 237 years by betting against America? If you compare our
mircea_popescu: country’s present condition to that existing in 1776, you have to rub your eyes in wonder. And the dynamism
mircea_popescu: embedded in our market economy will continue to work its magic. America’s best days lie ahead.
mircea_popescu: "
mircea_popescu: ahahah gotta love the fact that a 90 yo guy in nebraska is pretty much the only one left still believing this.
mircea_popescu: to the degree he sounds trollish, even
Duffer1: how far the mighty have fallen
Duffer1: dementia is so sad
mircea_popescu: who's to know, he was right before.
mircea_popescu: anyway, not entirely accurate. numerous times people benefited, sometimes immensely, by betting against the us.
BingoBoingo: Well, Buffet generally bets slow and safely. I mean buying the trains was a great move on his part.
mircea_popescu: sure.
mircea_popescu: auto insurance is great insurance to have, too, because you end up with just as much float as disaster, but much less risk.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04093 = 0.2047 BTC [+]
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: did that one work?
mircea_popescu: copumpkin im not in a position to dick with it right nao.
copumpkin: ah okay
copumpkin: just curious, I'll be going offline again soon :)
copumpkin: but no rush
mircea_popescu: ya kk.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04093 = 0.2047 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04093 = 0.2047 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 43 @ 0.00548902 = 0.236 BTC [+] {2}
Duffer1: mircea_popescu if you're looking for an article today http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/01/opinion/nocera-the-bitcoin-blasphemy.html?hp&rref=opinion
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00548903 = 0.5489 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.61772984 = 9.2659 BTC [+] {8}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+]
ThickAsThieves: Duffer1, that article is poor. He begins painting a picture, but then he won't show us the finished piece.
ThickAsThieves: pretty much Bitcoin is neat, but it needs Gov
ThickAsThieves: he never argues how Gov would help
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.62569998 = 4.3799 BTC [+] {6}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.08510002 = 0.4255 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00569989 = 0.1026 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: re: raspberry pi: the news item is - a sham ☟︎
asciilifeform: you still need a binary blob
asciilifeform: just a smaller one
asciilifeform: 'Filtration System, a Marvel to Behold! It Removes 80% of Human Solid Waste!'
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 77 @ 0.0028097 = 0.2163 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0978431 = 0.3914 BTC [+] {2}
benkay: ;;later tell mircea_popescu just answering this nonsense: (<ThickAsThieves> benkay only dates WoW sluts) with some of my own
gribble: The operation succeeded.
wao-ender: r> oh and there's a russian warship docking in cuba now, mysteriously
asciilifeform: wao-ender: 3 days now
wao-ender: looks like information escalation, lot of folks calls this like ww3.. overrated.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00540011 = 0.162 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 74 @ 0.00548902 = 0.4062 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 369 @ 0.00549961 = 2.0294 BTC [+] {5}
benkay: BingoBoingo: http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.577243
TestingUnoDosTre: Hey I need some help with a proposed bitbet that was rejected
TestingUnoDosTre: MMM / BTC above or equal to .2 on May 3 2014 Rejection reason: Consider submitting with substantial paid wager given peculiarity of proposition
artifexd: What is MMM?
TestingUnoDosTre: stock ticker MMM is 3M company
artifexd: And there is a place it is priced in BTC?
TestingUnoDosTre: no, its USD price cs BTC usd price
artifexd: So the bet outcome is determined by two (possibly compromised/influenced) feeds?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04649929 = 0.1395 BTC [+] {3}
TestingUnoDosTre: compromised?
benkay: TestingUnoDosTre: read this http://trilema.com/2014/mpoe-february-2014-statement/
artifexd: Thanks benkay. That was exactly along the lines I was thinking.
benkay: i know :)
TestingUnoDosTre: theres bets with btcs usd price on the website all thr time. can you expand?
benkay: well your bet comes after the data feeds are found to be useless.
TestingUnoDosTre: how so?
TestingUnoDosTre: the bet ends two weeks early
jurov: too much fake data
benkay: bet opening dates, TestingUnoDosTre.
benkay: other bets dependent on btc price were *placed* before feeds were found to be useless. your bet was placed after feeds found to be useless. your bet is rejected probably because now the mods know the price signal is fucked. previous bets were not because nobody knew the price signal was fucked.
benkay: yeah?
TestingUnoDosTre: how is bitstamp fucked?
benkay: did you read that link?
benkay: you should probably ask the relevant parties as indicated in the trilema piece.
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.0054002 = 0.27 BTC [-] {2}
benkay: the easy answer is probably just to use bitcoin-central, but that'd just reek of cronyism.
benkay: beyond my pay grade
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.08649999 = 0.173 BTC [+]
TestingUnoDosTre: that link is about MPoE options and counterparty risk, which thishas very little to do with. amiright?
TestingUnoDosTre: who is the authority to ask?
ThickAsThieves: whats the big question, doesnt it say to include a bet sum to get it accepted?
ThickAsThieves: do so
benkay: Even if one were to roll their own index : BTC-e is a rather dubious venture, still fondly remembered for their involvement in NovaCoin, the original altchain scamcoin and spotty reports of selective scamming. Bitstamp has two thumbs down from Matic for reasons I don’t fully grasp but then again I don’t really need to in that circumstance. I wouldn’t trust Kraken to hold as much as my spit, especially after their recent
benkay: bitdaytrade-esque failure and Jesse’s enthusiastic support of the well known and universally reviled Jared Kenna scammerx. There are some others out there, and they pop up and down like flies.xi
benkay: To make a long story short : there’s no way to obtain a price feed that could be relied on, currently.
benkay: all from the link
benkay: TestingUnoDosTre: you gotta try harder, frere.
ThickAsThieves: bets dont need a reliable feed
ThickAsThieves: just a specific one
benkay: yeah there's that approach
TestingUnoDosTre: i used bitstamp, it was very specific
benkay: anyways, ThickAsThieves has it on the nose. mods say submit with substantial wager.
ThickAsThieves: basically bitbet is saying your bet is lame, but if you back it theyll list it
TestingUnoDosTre: i bet .5btc RIGHT AWAY
ThickAsThieves: aparently its not substantial enuf
TestingUnoDosTre: theres no reason i wont bet more, but I want to gage interest
ThickAsThieves: very little
ThickAsThieves: who cares about MMM?
ThickAsThieves: this is bitcoin
ThickAsThieves: you might get a TSLA bet thru
TestingUnoDosTre: if I just throw 2 btc out therr, im afraid no one takes interest until too late
ThickAsThieves: so is bitbet
benkay: the more you throw down the bigger the attraction on the other side, right?
ThickAsThieves: is this a hedge or something?
TestingUnoDosTre: it has to do with hedging a position...
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.0056999 = 0.285 BTC [+]
TestingUnoDosTre: no shit sherlock
benkay: anyways
benkay: .bait
ozbot: http://24.media.tumblr.com/1a1ed612e474897bf32e321e52c9c235/tumblr_mmok5t2fL31r3yc8oo1_1280.jpg
benkay: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/286fa78a1511b1709a3834113c6720a6/tumblr_mmok9sGbOB1r3yc8oo1_1280.jpg
benkay: .bait
ozbot: http://25.media.tumblr.com/f53c1fd94980d4598264cdcd197169e3/tumblr_mn5k28W83q1qg7xwvo1_500.jpg
benkay: three strikes and you're out, ozbot.
TestingUnoDosTre: who can i talk to about this bet that will actually help out?
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2152 @ 0.0002 = 0.4304 BTC [+]
benkay: help? that's not really how bitbet works most of the time.
benkay: but you'd want to bother mircea_popescu or kakobrekla until they satisfy your curiosity
BingoBoingo: benkay: For the purposes I am looking for on the Betbet, I need to see unit patches and other things that affiliate these "Russian Soldiers" with units of a regular army. The backops unaffiliated, noncombatants (as per the Geneva convention definition) can't resolve that bet as yet.
benkay: oh, i know.
benkay: relevant to your interests is all, BingoBoingo.
BingoBoingo: benkay: I know. I've got Bitcoins at stake.
TestingUnoDosTre: hey kakobrekla are you here?
Duffer1: thickasthieves the article was terrible, was just pointing it out to MP if he needed something to hate on
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0056999 = 0.57 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 92 @ 0.0056999 = 0.5244 BTC [+]
kakobrekla: hi TestingUnoDosTre , which part of the mods reply > "Rejection reason: Consider submitting with substantial paid wager given peculiarity of proposition" you have troubles with?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13916 @ 0.00084546 = 11.7654 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.000204 = 0.204 BTC [+]
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5490 @ 0.00020499 = 1.1254 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.0002051 = 0.2051 BTC [+]
benkay: on an entirely different topic, new site is up. http://survantjames.com
TestingUnoDosTre: my trouble is this. im willing to wager more as the bet develops, but .5 btc is more than most bets start with. i want to gage interest, see if theres an actual good payout, and wait maybe a week or few before i add more to the bet
TestingUnoDosTre: otherwise if theres no interest, i could get rocked