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: asciilifeform so basically it all comes down to a gns
absence issue ?
: once off that, I might see about ebuilding trb (with perhaps phf's v+portage work if it surfaces), and then mircea_popescu's gns
v-tree, unless gpg replacement surfaces soon, in which case deedbot->peh work
: cracking dns, replacing with gns
, makes the world fucking work already.
: and so therefore, how about this convention : re-dld gets ~all~ keys from seals dir ; looks in $key/gns
for patches. dumps all the found ones in a dir, then proceeds to build and press tree, that's the hosts and that;'s it.
: i ~suppose~ one manner of handling this is the followingf convention : patches to be acquired from $key/gns
/ dir, for all keys in the seals ring. so it'd look for "6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452/gns
" which is not a "valid" domain per usg.verisign "rules" however it DOES resolve in our own system. because we can put ips on anything we want.
: Logged on 2018-10-15 19:34 asciilifeform: for instance 1 possible answer is 'no files, errything is an s-expression, and names live in gns
: for instance 1 possible answer is 'no files, errything is an s-expression, and names live in gns
: thinking about this, it's fucking evident what difference the online made for the thinking mind. yes i was a child, but child or no child, it didn't occur to me that i must have a gns
link to the item that i like. "this" and pointing was an acceptable manner of reference in the 90s, because why the hell wouldn't it be and what's a global namespace anyway.
: I can delcare the v054 release with a manifest of my own ala: To declare a "release", an author's GNS
pointer for a project would point to his selected manifest.
: yes. his intuition is correct, eventually will grow into gns
:mircea/writings/trilema/categories/ is just about the only way to corectly refer to the item.
: myeah. the only problem is that i suspect the unix notion of filenames (if ~properly~ regarded, ie, full paths) is actually entirely correct, and how gns
will have to work anyway.
: item eminently doesn't deal with "programs" or "applications" or anything ; it's a proper url system, it locates resources. can put in the gns
that you're a dentist in kennebunkport, maine, and if i need a dentist...
: so announcement of a new partch would be author changing his gns
entry for X from press-to-q to press-to-k ; if user is disinterested he jkust gets dragged along, otherwise if user requires he sign local copy he stays put.
: there's no requirement that the gns
even be properly global ; it's your job to make it global-locally and that's that.
: 4. in all cases, a container consists of a tag and binary data ; the tag section of the gns
tells it what v trees are acceptable applications upon that data.
: 2. the client queries whichever gns
it is configured to, and inquires as to contacting machines which hold data related to this item. it receives a list of them, on the basis of what signatures mircea_popescu told it to trust signed.
: so gns
is basically just a lengthy registrar of assignments, a=b sorta thing, signed by keys.
: asciilifeform in ~principle~ a container could tell you what class of procedure it wants to be eaten by ; and gns
could tell you which v-trees implement it.
: so tell me how is pstp going to work without a gns
to reference container content names ?
: yes we don't have a gns
yet, but this doesn't excuse us from... doing the same computations by hand as if we had it! it's not suddenly allowable to go "well since i have no running water i therefore do not wash". no bitch -- since you have no running water, you walk fifty miles uphil each way to GET water in a bucket. still wash.
: the oither problem is of course that this lays right into gns
: Logged on 2016-11-23 16:07 mircea_popescu: think - currently deedbot administers a very narrow implementation of the gns
, whereby if you claim to own X domain, it challenges you and if you pass it gives it to you.
: Logged on 2017-07-09 04:11 trinque: concretely, I would like to connect to your lisp instance from mine and be able to interrogate it for classes of objects it contains, for particular instances (i.e. there is a global notion of identity, global addressing, see threads on GNS
), get instances which match some predicate...
: concretely, I would like to connect to your lisp instance from mine and be able to interrogate it for classes of objects it contains, for particular instances (i.e. there is a global notion of identity, global addressing, see threads on GNS
), get instances which match some predicate... ☟
: i guess one may have a database of keys, as well as a table of signed-with-key nicknames which establish someone claiming a nickname for key? sort of gns
. alternative scheme is to have any kind of aliasing be local, as per gossipd. less convenient for things like looking up nickname in wot.deedbot.org of course.
: in principle can index by any of the three for new software / maintain current association for extant software, and be ready to migrate when we finally have a proper gns
: Logged on 2016-11-23 16:15 mircea_popescu: and it'd be gns
: asciilifeform you realise, deedbot searched me in its own copy of the gns
. by fp.
: all our uses, in deedbot, in voicing model, in wot, in v, all rely on the concept of fp as gns
: so deedbot or gns
would decide on the allowed fingerprinting schemes.
: think - currently deedbot administers a very narrow implementation of the gns
, whereby if you claim to own X domain, it challenges you and if you pass it gives it to you. ☟
is not dns ; it will hold any symbols you realise.
: the N-to-1 relation (many possible ratings for one name) needs to be stored somehow, i suppose it may be multiple gns
fields, but then it is the case that not *all* fields of a specific name are controlled by the name's owner; or, there's a separate service / storage thing.
: in principle it would be very gns
-based. if i sign btcbase/logs mkj.lt/log trilema.com etc, you can do "signed:mp" in your search box and get results from THESE
: i suppose the system could then also integrate with gns
, in the sense that gns
-listed content could in principle be searched, too..
: we're even contemplating making a proper gns
to be fed through dns pipe, much to alf's chagrin.
: currently, you can not register a gns
item. at some point X, you will become able to. thenceforth, you will be able to. that's the whole timeline.
: Logged on 2016-11-16 00:34 Framedragger: because it would be great if WoT-gns
worked like other WoT things, i.e., via the enforcement of WoT itself.
: because it would be great if WoT-gns
worked like other WoT things, i.e., via the enforcement of WoT itself. ☟
: ben_vulpes: there's one important distinction here. the gns
has a WoT identity running it.
: mircea_popescu: i guess in your view, perhaps no viable conflicts would arise in gns
? say, two owners of two distinct pgp keys claiming ownership of "apple.com". some kind of due process is to take place, presumably
: right. how would the process of resolving conflicts in gns
look like, though? (i'm just curious, i.e. question is well-intentioned, not troll-y)
: so the notion of a local symbol frame/context will be retained inevitably, is that what you're saying mircea_popescu? (in which case i'd add that gns
-the-implementation could even probably be used - on each interested user's machine - as a local name system. etc.)
: asciilifeform i would say the gns
as discussed on trilema drastically reduces it.
: personally i don't see why there could not be a GNS
which would be separate from commitments to specific transport standards. have a table, have a transport layer, swap the layer later. i may be naive in regards to the "swap" step, i guess... :/
: "Aircraft conducting WAAS approaches must possess certified GPS receivers, which are much more expensive than non-certified units. In 2006, Garmin's least expensive certified receiver, the GNS
430W, had a suggested retail price of US$10,750."
: personally i prefer implementations like the GNUnet Name System (GNS