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Framedragger:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-15#1568014 << that's what i thought as well - i queried along the same lines: "say someone with a valid GPG key rushes to register trilema.com in the Republican DNS before yourself. I suppose that is all well and good, and you negrating the key would only be appropriate in the instance of that person
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2016-11-15 23:29 trinque: who needs blanket policy when he's free to choose and I'm free to negrate him?
Framedragger: and mp said "da fuck, I'm not going to support a dns system where some dork registered trilema", which confused me, so yeah, clarification needed, i think.
Framedragger: because it would be great if WoT-gns worked like other WoT things, i.e., via the enforcement of WoT itself.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: The guiding principle of Inequality demands that the first round of registrations in a domain system must necessarily be limited to the privileged.
Framedragger: first round, okay, but other rounds supposedly follow later, and the conflict case can be replicated, i would think, and hence the system supports conflicts, structurally, which need to be addressed one way or another.. dunno.
☟︎ shinohai likes the cardinal virtue of unfairness ....
BingoBoingo: Well if you really care about a name you prolly ought to claim it in the first round
mircea_popescu: the warning's out, whoever doesn't get in the wot is playing with fire.
mircea_popescu: i like how it's always "but nobody would do this because we already did and reasons"
shinohai: pfffft ... I'm willing to bet there are plenty of people still running 12.04 ... could be slipped into a dirty emulator rom or somesuch
a111: Logged on 2016-11-15 19:30 Framedragger: unless the latter kind of situation is to be covered by your clarification, to quote, "I imagine like any serious country, we first handle the claims of the elite privately. "
a111: Logged on 2016-11-15 20:43 asciilifeform: it's a fundamentally zimbabwetronic thing.
mircea_popescu: i want something that works for me. if it works for others - good for them. if it doesn't, woe on them.
mircea_popescu: the measure of their fitness to survive is very strictly how well things that work for me work for them.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568033 << i really don't see that past the "sunrise" so to call it there's any need to give a shit. i would not negrate anyone for registering "someone else's" domain after the system comes online and anyone can register whatever. i do think it's pretty idiotic to bring it online empty ; i won't support a system that tries that ; and i think the comparison with mining/premining is entirely w
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 00:34 Framedragger: because it would be great if WoT-gns worked like other WoT things, i.e., via the enforcement of WoT itself.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 00:35 Framedragger: first round, okay, but other rounds supposedly follow later, and the conflict case can be replicated, i would think, and hence the system supports conflicts, structurally, which need to be addressed one way or another.. dunno.
mircea_popescu: currently, you can not register a gns item. at some point X, you will become able to. thenceforth, you will be able to. that's the whole timeline.
mircea_popescu: you send "register name x type y key z" to server. if it doesn't have x, it registers it. if it has x, it registers y provided z is the key registered for x.
mircea_popescu: (ftr, re "does z sign", there's a beautiful tie-in for deedbot in here, because there's no reason i couldn't register straight from !!, and especially so if i have to pay something)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion. it's of the nature of ask deedbot, not of the nature of "what does the lordship think"
mircea_popescu: i don't know what "this logic" is. you are currently using dns, yes ?
mircea_popescu: "People think that Web browsers are elegant computation platforms, and Web pages are light, fluffy things that you can edit in Notepad as you trade ironic comments with your friends in the coffee shop. Nothing could be further from the truth." << actually... that's exactly how it goes for me. and i mean that literally - i write straight html while hurr durring with teh girlz.
mircea_popescu: what you'd like doesn't enter into this. you'll use the dictionary whether you like to or not.
mircea_popescu: yes, except dictionaries aren't the structure of the empire. they're the structure of thought.
mircea_popescu: this is a debatable point. they are however fixed in context ; much like symbol tables for a running program say.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your objection would be that if i one day decide to move trilema from ip x to ip y i thereby am confusing your thought process unduly ?
mircea_popescu: trilema fucking exists as my act of will, wherever i say it is that's where it is. of course they go together.
mircea_popescu: you are currently asking deedbot "where to send this repuiblican tax again ?"
mircea_popescu: ;; ANSWER SECTION: change.org. 2446 IN A 104.16.5.13 change.org. 2446 IN A 104.16.4.13 ftr.
mircea_popescu: anyway, re-reading this dns thing, i'm not even sure what the objections are. i'm getting a morass of "why shouldn't all the things be made out of lead since lead works well for pencils" + vague extremisms trying to confuse a clear boundry (x didn't exist ; x exists) with random other things.
mircea_popescu: why money should be p2p and dictionaries printed should be self-obvious, however.
mircea_popescu: when you bought the next installment of whatever comic you read as a boy,
mircea_popescu: fine. when the ukrainians decided to be a nation, your dictionary also remote-updated.
mircea_popescu: you decided to stay on the old branch, which is fine, but also unrelated.
mircea_popescu: ironically, i am so intolerant i actually cross over into salesmanship.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just because police sometimes beats people up with vacuum hose does not mean vacuums hoses should be banned. we're not french fucking bulldogs, what sort of dogreasoning is this.
mircea_popescu: but there isn't ; and what's worse, there necessarily can not be.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform think for a second : the reason delegation exists is because a) people are idiots and b) the lists get long. in that order.
mircea_popescu: now imagine if instead of splitting it up via delegation, you simply made the problem exponentially worse by introducing a gossip layer in there.
mircea_popescu: last thing you fucking need is for every dns root server to have to talk to EVERY ONE for (total domain data) ^ 1/2's worth
mircea_popescu: and not btc + "telegraph" for the same reason - horribru data exchange profile.
mircea_popescu: finding out where trilema.com should point just became o(blocks)
mircea_popescu: then if it is, whole thing should just be central server.
mircea_popescu: client doesn't hold the whole fucking dns db holy shit.
mircea_popescu: "fuck you mp, i hate what i deem thrones so much, you now can't do name resolution on anything without a tb hdd!"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a spurious objection, you'd still have to hold the whole blockchain to avoid o(blocks) in your insane anti-model.
mircea_popescu: wtf, "here's the two pages of the dictionary we estimate you may ever need"
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Mebbe a roundup, it's just the empire's dns bookkeeping
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> remind me, how << Blockchain bloats to death, merge mined with Bitcoin so little incentive for miners to include any data... the reasons go on-anon
BingoBoingo: So who is applying to the Trump Transition team as TMSR ambassador?
BingoBoingo: I am applying to position of making grass green again!
mircea_popescu: bwahaha i just for the first time read about the whole javascript native prototype reset thing. Number.prototype.valueOf = function(){return 42;} srsly ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe she's looking to start a new life as grabee.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but if you get to inject code into any of these shits, the whole shebang where they get imported collapses. say you hijack google's tracking bs and put a sprinkling of that in there.
BingoBoingo: "Under Secretary of Agriculture for Research, Education, and Economics" << Is this pretentious enough title for a lord infiltrating the Great Again to apply for or should I just go Secretary of Agriculture?
mircea_popescu: why not something actually appropriate ? TMSR envoy, something RSA, whatevs
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Because that seems like a job for a Canadian and we are down to one of those.
deedbot: yale voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: Anyways if I am in the USDA maybe I can advance the cause of complete bermudagrass eradication?
BingoBoingo: Holy shit I'm already an elder statesman of the Republic!
trinque: did I miss trump putting an add on craigslist or something?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-15 16:59 asciilifeform: speaking of public amusement, word is that ~all~ 3,000 or so obummer 'staffers' are quitting. and now being replaced.
BingoBoingo: "Please describe why you hope to be a part of the President Elect's administration:" << my answer "Through working my program with my sponsor I believe I am ready to let go, let God, and offer myself completely to the work of summoning The Great Again."
trinque: he shouldn't need that many people to turn off lights and lock doors.
BingoBoingo figures what's the worst that could happen. It's been a few years since the FBI knocked on my door.
mircea_popescu: trinque there's that many for the ~same reason highschool dorks move in packs. WHAT IF A GIRL SAYS SOMETHING
trinque: "I'm gonna go talk to Merkel. I'm gonna do it."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Valium is bad for my spiritual condition.
mircea_popescu: well trump doesn't have the obamaproblem. for one thing - grabbing. for the other, he has some practice with "on your back, mel"
mircea_popescu: incidentally, how many fellows here present have discovered the wonder of the sixty degree fuck ?
trinque: yeah but two I find interesting!
mircea_popescu: you know, when woman (that's a) sufficiently toned and b) sufficently meaty, esp on ass and thighs) spreads her legs 60° with knees straight. so you can momentum-fuck her.
trinque: this plus arms held back, chick across side of bed or other surface
mircea_popescu: no, as her thighs and pubic muscles lock she produces this assemblage which resonates somewhere around 1.3-1.7hz
mircea_popescu: depends on weight. if she's too light it runs away far above what you can touch ; if more fat than a 2-3% or so it dampens.
ben_vulpes: legs parallel to bed or at an angle from that as well?
mircea_popescu retrospectively realises he's made a pretty shitty description.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 03:55 asciilifeform: also ben_vulpes probably could but he has 'real job'
ben_vulpes: devil will have to get off his arse and make me an offer for my time.
a111: Logged on 2015-03-27 00:32 mircea_popescu: but that aside, it all boils down to the ancient (here and iirc on trilema too) "what's the devil have to pay you to love him" thing.
ben_vulpes: this 'real job' slander has me ALL RILED
BingoBoingo: Ok my application to join the Trumpreich has been submitted.
ben_vulpes: trumpenreich has such a better sound to it
BingoBoingo: Anyways the Trumpreich application allows selecting for multiple positions and departments.
pete_dushenski:
http://archive.is/34vqO << steve bannon, trumpreich's newly appointed 'chief strategist', back in 2014 describing the rise of centre-right populism in the west. looks like bannon's veeery xtian and therefore foresees all-out global war between islam and judeo-xtian west, a war he's all too adamant in cautioning the complacent europeans against taking too lightly.
☟︎ pete_dushenski: but now that shillary lost and trumpreich reigneth, the bad guy is west, not east. so bank on more such EVIL CHINESE THINGS coming to light in the not-too-distant future.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: ty for the nomination. other than wear very sharp suits, know which fork to use at which dinner course, have had tremendous orthodontics, be able to pull up to a reception in a wide variety of long-wheelbase luxury sedans, be able to hold a conversation with most any iyi regardless of background, what all's entailed ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: oh wait possibly legs rotating in hip sockets in a coplanar fashion?
ben_vulpes: > Kryptowire was jumpstarted by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS S&T)
ben_vulpes: those nasty out-of-country hardware providers selling on amazon and etc are being so naughty
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 01:24 mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-16#1568033 << i really don't see that past the "sunrise" so to call it there's any need to give a shit. i would not negrate anyone for registering "someone else's" domain after the system comes online and anyone can register whatever. i do think it's pretty idiotic to bring it online empty ; i won't support a system that tries that ; and i think the comparison with mining/premining is entirely w
Framedragger: so the conflict thing is, i suppose, in principle settled in my mind.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 03:57 mircea_popescu: bwahaha i just for the first time read about the whole javascript native prototype reset thing. Number.prototype.valueOf = function(){return 42;} srsly ?
Framedragger: i also liked the part where if javascript is given a file and it doesn't recognize if it's a js file, it'll just try to eval it, for good measure, in case it is js.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 04:55 ben_vulpes: i thought this was kindergarten fuckatronix
a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 07:07 pete_dushenski:
http://archive.is/34vqO << steve bannon, trumpreich's newly appointed 'chief strategist', back in 2014 describing the rise of centre-right populism in the west. looks like bannon's veeery xtian and therefore foresees all-out global war between islam and judeo-xtian west, a war he's all too adamant in cautioning the complacent europeans against taking too lightly.
mircea_popescu: "oh no mp, you got it all wrong" "sure, sure. tell me you'd crack the skull of some dude fucking your friendzone. right now." "uh." "then sit down."
mircea_popescu: islam has won the fitness race ; chiefly because the "swj" replacement for "fundamentalist christian" is SO FUCKING UNFIT, even islam has a chance. as well as gasteropodes and other dead branches that forgot to die out.
mircea_popescu: almost as if we shared talking points on a napkin. which we haven't, but there it is. the iyi/jews in question'd be excused if they thought "massive right wing conspiracy", because hey.
mircea_popescu: and since taleb's twitter is full of "simpson's paradox", let's add it to the record. it is universally the case that low birth weight is a predictor of infant mortality. this has been observed across centuries and across cultures/geographies. even if the exact value that contitutes "low birth weight" varies, the effects of the classification are ubiquitous.
mircea_popescu: once people become interested in smoking, it was observed that smoking mothers' babies of normal weight fare no better or worse than the general population ; whereas smoking mothers' babies of low weigh fare ~significantly~ better than the general population (of low birth weight babies).
mircea_popescu: on the basis of this much statistics, one could conclude (wrongly) that smoking in the mother is protective for the neonate.
mircea_popescu: however, ignoring the distinction, one can also make the observation that children born to smoking mothers fare significantly worse than the general population.
mircea_popescu: the reason for this apparent paradox ("how can kids do ok in A and better in B yet still do worse in A+B ?!) is that smoking CAUSES low birth weight ; but there are also other causes of low birth weight which also have a much more severe impact on life/survival expectancy than smoking.
mircea_popescu: because low weight babies have much poorer prospects than normal babies, and because smoking mothers cause a significant migration of their babies from normal to low weight, they "drown out" the other causes, getting apparent "better" prognosis (hey, the kid's not afflicted by trisomy with a 90% death before puberty prognosis ; but merely by smoking mom, with a 1% death before puberty prognosis)
mircea_popescu: and as taleb correctly points out, the jews' misunderstanding of this fundamental point is what drives a lot of their inept policy. such as you know, "how to make ghetos better ? BANKRUPT MIDDLE CLASS WHITE PEOPLE!!! then they'll move in the gheto and smoking mothers are protective for the baby!"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: also as taleb correctly points out, this example is just a very good example, but not the whole story. what it exemplifies is the ineptitude of a class of people, whom we call jews, and whom we wish to see in camps. these people understand some - enough to be harmful - but not enough, so as to be useful. they are worse than stupid, because of this familiarity with first order but incapacity for higher order reasoning.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-11-16 14:19 mircea_popescu: and as taleb correctly points out, the jews' misunderstanding of this fundamental point is what drives a lot of their inept policy. such as you know, "how to make ghetos better ? BANKRUPT MIDDLE CLASS WHITE PEOPLE!!! then they'll move in the gheto and smoking mothers are protective for the baby!"
mircea_popescu: note that it's not "why does flea drink blood", it's "why does mosquito female eschew nectar diet which WOULD allow it to deliver eggs that are viable ; and instead risk its life trying to suck blood out of people, which results in 100% mortality in plenty of cases".
mircea_popescu: and the conclusion "because it's fucking dumb" is perfectly reasonable.
mircea_popescu: that its mechanisms "think" bloodsucking pays has no bearings whatsoever on the reality of the matter. as it happens - it doesn't pay.
mircea_popescu: and mosquitoes are very good exemplars for jews in this discussion - it has been my long held view they must be exterminated, as a species, permanently, as a minimal requirement of calling the human species civilised. and they ARE being exterminated. we will die in a world with no mosquitoes.
mircea_popescu: if it takes glassing washington, i'm in line to press the button.
mircea_popescu: it's ubiquitous, really. kind-of why "segmentation" is so beloved by the garglers of my week-old cum (who prefer to call themselves "web analytics experts").
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: amateur statisticians (such as i dunno, horse bettors, fantasy league players etc) constantly run into this problem where an entity outperforms another two years running but not the two years together.
mircea_popescu: it's really not that far removed from human experience as to excuse ignorance. except of course the idle are idle, not as a label but as a thing, and so never encountered anything in their life.
mircea_popescu: i'm satisfied by now they're actually bereft of language/thinking skills, so they'll simply carry on being jews until we gut them.
mircea_popescu: (in the case of the global warming scam - the whole moneygrubbing angle is particularly defensible. sure, the jews themselves may be stupid. but the people who benefit from this particular fraud aren't generally.)
phf: huh, there's a protest outside my window
phf: literally all the usual suspects
phf: well, it's 50 people, but, there's at least two police cars on each intersection coming up and a helicopter
phf: specifically i can count 8 cop cars just oustide my window, 2 umarked cars with blinkers, sirens from elsewhere, an EMS car in the distance, and a helicopter somewhere very nearby
phf: there's some irony in the current chant being "no more hate"
Framedragger: curious: when looking at dns round robin, i found out that some nameservers - of those who do round robin, i.e. permuting list of say dns A records - sometimes do not shuffle them around, if dig'd in quick succession.
Framedragger: can this be used to approximate the frequency of dns requests to that nameserver? :p
Framedragger: the working assumption would be that if necessary does permute, it will necessarily set a new order for each request to follow. dangerous assumption, sure.
trinque: sounds like it calls for reading some DNS server code.
Framedragger: and here i thought i could exploit other people's knowledge :p
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: oh you can't even imagine how many 'additional' data fields domain needs to be actually usable by current dns clients. everything from start of authority to multiple TTLs etc. and that's the saner part of things...
mircea_popescu: why does everyone just assume i don't know what i'm talking about. just because i sound like a clueless grandfather doesn't mean i am one omygerd.
Framedragger: array resizing and network code all in one place. no wonder buffer exploitation bugs aplenty
BingoBoingo: How sure are you that you aren't a grandfather, at least biologically...
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sorta a poor man's Sinatra. Vegas singer
mircea_popescu: and what the fuck is the problem again ? these people never heard of whore dynasties ?
mircea_popescu has ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS had young women introduced by old friends with the equivalent of "and this is my daughter. she's old enough now."
Framedragger: (..and of course bind has at least one "basically completely undocumented" config option, "order random_1", which modifies the round robin process, or the eventual reply. "didn't you get the memo, peter?")
BingoBoingo: But seriously, the butthurt "Y u no interested in 90 year old women!"
mircea_popescu: "i want my peas not to touch!!!1" "if i turn around and there's any peas on the fucking plate they'll touch your rectum directly."
mircea_popescu: and heather schwedel is, predictably, a woman that obviously never worked out.
BingoBoingo: 2016-2009=7, so more probably 70-90 pounds ago
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo hard to fatten well on journalism diet of ramen.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You haven't seen how cheaply walmart sells "cookies"
shinohai eats some small nondescript tubers ramen
mircea_popescu: "Still, she admires those who take great risks for quick wealth. She talks glowingly about the Canadian customers who made a fortune through credit card fraud before escaping to Cambodia. Her eyes shine dreamily at remembrance of that criminal cock." << incidentally, by the latest reports other than you suckers playing by the books, the population of people who smartened out and took off is so drastically increasing, they m
mircea_popescu: ake upwards of HALF of all the rich barangs in most traditional prositution dens of asia.
mircea_popescu: china doesn't give a shit, and i somehow don't see nato getting its balls brassed enough to go bomb vietnam again
BingoBoingo: Hey, I just applied to literally all of the appointable positions outside of national security.
Framedragger: 5515 * and a optional NS RRset (Type 1) or it has neither
Framedragger: 5516 * a SOA or a NS RRset (Type 3, handled above) or
Framedragger: 5517 * rcode is NXDOMAIN (handled above) in which case
mircea_popescu: IF this happens, it's definitely along the lines of "what the fuck are you still doing here, i told you we have a no bums policy"
mircea_popescu: bonus "i am a stereotype" points : her name is megan and she's read enough tlp to try for "maggie"
mats: >Naval sources said the decision was “like Nelson deciding to get rid of his cannons and go back to muskets” lul
mats: also, the offensive against Raqqa has been going on for about a week
BingoBoingo: mats: You apply for any presidential appointments in the Trumpreich yet?
BingoBoingo: Why not? AN opportiniTIT like this arises only every 8 years.
BingoBoingo: Also anyone recall the current url for mpex web?
mats: BingoBoingo: i gave up my aspirations for public service years ago
pete_dushenski: mpex missingness probably related to the issues with internetbs.net not accepting btc anymore
jhvh1: pete_dushenski: BTCChina BTCRMB last: 5188.0, vol: 4111687.79210000 | Volume-weighted last average: 5188.0
mats: if i ever serve again, it'd prob be in a firefighting dept or a civilian SAR unit
mats: no interest in being a bureaucrat or working for some glazed donut
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: "force farmers to plan crops" << plant ? not sure that sucking usg.dole teet qualifies as planning.
mircea_popescu: anyway, use local dns will work. i guess ima put more domains.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> unrelatedly, anyone remember anthrax ? the band ? << for sure
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo pete_dushenski and other web-facing interested parties : i'll have some more domains linked this week. in the meanwhile, editing your /etc/hosts to correctly allocate the domain names will fix your problem.
shinohai: I've decided this is the time to follow in phf's footsteps and curate a hosts file for all tmsr sites
mircea_popescu: mats it dun look like the "two months" were anything but the bitcoin "two weeks" does it.
mod6: shinohai: good call
mats: yes, i want a refund
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i'm curious, why don't you do mpex.trilema.com ? or would that link the two explicitly and hence would not be favourable?
mircea_popescu: looks altogether more likely it's never actually getting conquered. if they last out the 70 days that's that for "peacekeeping" bs there.
Framedragger: (if no trust in domains in the first place, what difference if 2nd level or 3rd level)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger well cuz what sense would it make ? even leaving aside i'm not all that sold on "subdomains"
pete_dushenski:
http://archive.is/xU2lc << for german readers. basically, arabic-german interpreter lady plays fly on the wall, aghast to learn that moslems hate germans / xtians and have every intention of supplanting their hosts with uber-fecundity, whether filmed on hbo or not, whether there's beer or not, whether traffic is bad or not.
pete_dushenski: xtianity's best defense against islam at this point would appear to be... mormons. go joseph!
ben_vulpes: "The Times reported that Mr. Trump had taken calls from the leaders of Egypt, Israel, Russia and Britain, but said they had been conducted haphazardly and without State Department briefings that traditionally guide conversations with foreign leaders."
mircea_popescu: eh, "christians" is a thing like "wedding" is a thing.
ben_vulpes: consider the decades of speeches and /books/
ben_vulpes: the kids aren't even in high school yet!
deedbot: ben_vulpes rated vvande 1 at 2016/11/16 22:57:18 << new blood